Fujifilm XF 16-50mm f/2.8-4.8 (vs 18-55mm f/2.8-4)

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  • @riverpascual7592
    @riverpascual7592 4 месяца назад +12

    funny how this lens doesn't feel like a replacement for the 18-55 but rather a replacement for XC16-50 mainly because it basically removed the good things about the 18-55 (the aperture, the OIS) and replaced it with other good things (WR, resolution, internal zoom)
    so, we got good things by removing other good things.

  • @neilmontgomery3470
    @neilmontgomery3470 4 месяца назад +7

    The 18 to 55 mm makes more sense for me. My XT30 doesn't have IBIS and I really don't feel any need to upgrade.

  • @simon359
    @simon359 4 месяца назад +7

    If sigma 18-50 can make a lens that’s F2 .8 throughout its focal length, why can’t Fuji? They’re both about the same size.
    Also, I don’t like the new f4.8 instead of the F4 on the old lens!

    • @breeze7403
      @breeze7403 4 месяца назад +1

      So that you are more likely to buy their primes , i mean i guess..

    • @simon359
      @simon359 4 месяца назад

      @@breeze7403
      At least they put a 16mm at the wide end.

    • @voorachter2733
      @voorachter2733 4 месяца назад +3

      Fuji literally has a constant f2.8 zoom lens, their 16-55mm.

    • @lionheart4424
      @lionheart4424 4 месяца назад +2

      The Sigma has no aperture ring, no OIS and is not an internal zoom. And I believe is not advertised as weather resistant either.
      The Sigma is a better value for money at pure retail price, specially if you have a body with IBIS.

    • @michaeld5888
      @michaeld5888 3 месяца назад

      We need Sigma to produce a 16-50mm for any real comparison. Getting these wider angle zoom lenses optically perfect is not so easy.

  • @Vielpi
    @Vielpi 4 месяца назад +4

    Another amazing review, thanks Richard! Now I'm also curious as other comments mentioned the comparison with the Sigma equivalent. Hope you accept the challenge of getting your hands on both lenses at the same time haha!

  • @agffth
    @agffth Месяц назад +1

    Excellent video. Thank you for your hard work on this. I like the upgrades to in lens zoom and minimum focus distance.

  • @jpl980
    @jpl980 2 месяца назад +1

    Richard, thanks so much for your helpful video. Do you have any thoughts on how the AF performance and IQ of this 16-50 2.8-4.8 lens compare to the larger Fujifilm XF16-55 2.8 lens?

  • @caerphoto
    @caerphoto 4 месяца назад +2

    Very nice comparison, and it's got me interested in the 16-50 even more. I've never really liked the 18-55 that much, and it looks like this new lens basically fixes all the problems I had with the old one, especially the sharpness at 55mm, and the bokeh (the 18-55's is horrendous). Happy to give up half a stop of aperture, especially if it means a lighter lens that is also weather resistant.

  • @DigiDriftZone
    @DigiDriftZone Месяц назад

    Feels like a bit of a downgrade, no OIS, slower on the tele end, not quite as impressive as the 18-55mm was when it came out. Also full frame equivalent of 24-75mm f/4.2 to f/7.2 just feels a bit uninspired, not much light gathering.

  • @drs-Rigo-Reus
    @drs-Rigo-Reus 4 месяца назад +1

    Mediocre at best, yawn….. where is 18/2 update??

  • @Hofology
    @Hofology 9 дней назад

    Anyone else spend more time with video in this lens? The focus breathing issues seem a bit concerning, anyone know if that’s something firmware update could help? N00b deciding whether to get xs20 with 18-55 or 16-50 kit lens

  • @jandzoe9249
    @jandzoe9249 4 месяца назад +2

    This is a very helpful review. Thank you so much! I would have loved to have a little comparison regarding the OIS from the old lens. Have you noticed any noticable difference with just IBIS instead IBIS + OIS?

    • @TheRealRichardWong
      @TheRealRichardWong  4 месяца назад +1

      I haven't notice any difference. But I do need to do some proper side by side test to tell if there is and how much

  • @stefan33uk
    @stefan33uk 4 месяца назад +2

    Much superior sunstars I have to give it that

  • @Nixian1996
    @Nixian1996 21 день назад

    Hi Richard, what’s your opinion on the best travel lens for the XT-50? This one in the video or the 16-80? Thank you :)

  • @SpencerLupul
    @SpencerLupul 3 месяца назад +1

    did you happen to find out if the lens re-focusses while zooming in video mode? All other Fujifilm lenses do this which makes certain video shots look really bad 🙁

  • @servaasneijens
    @servaasneijens 4 месяца назад +4

    Very thoughtful review. Thank you.

  • @inessa52
    @inessa52 26 дней назад +1

    Thanks for another useful review, Richard. Finally, I’ve sold 18-55 and bought 16-50. 16-50 is perfect in every way. For me the sharpness is most important parameter and 16-50 is definitely much sharper than 18-55. 18-55 was perfect lens in the past but now it doesn’t resolve 40 megapixel sensor resolution

    • @TheRealRichardWong
      @TheRealRichardWong  26 дней назад

      @@inessa52 glad to hear you are enjoying your new lens Rafael!

  • @dirk.4711
    @dirk.4711 4 месяца назад +29

    Hey Richard, thanks for this nice review. Now the elephant in the room is a comparison to the Sigma 18-50/2.8 on a 40MP sensor Fuji camera 😅

    • @TungstenOvergaard
      @TungstenOvergaard 4 месяца назад +8

      I bought weeks ago the 18-50 for my XT5 and I’m impressed. Fuji not having a constant aperture is a huge miss.

    • @TheRealRichardWong
      @TheRealRichardWong  4 месяца назад +6

      That would be a nice comparison! The challenge for me is to get access to both lenses at the same time :(

    • @thehotdoglover
      @thehotdoglover 4 месяца назад +2

      The sigma is super soft at 50mm 2.8, so that’s the compromise there. To me this defeats the 2.8 constant aperture advantage and I would stop that lens down to f4 anyway at 50mm, for photos at least. Just too soft.
      But 4.8 on the Fuji is very slow. I’m impressed with the sharpness though. Really a different level than the sigma.

    • @brownbear100
      @brownbear100 4 месяца назад +1

      Can that elephant shoot at 16mm?
      It's also got rather soft not pleasant corners and no aperture ring, no WR, zooms the wrong way if you've got other Fuji zooms, and the IQ quickly deteriorates focussing at that MFD. It heavily relies on in camera corrections, the RAWS reveal the heavy distortion (why it has that corner performance) and vignetting. It also doesn't give a very solid impression.
      I sold my sigma after not very long using it. I hoped it could replace the 16-55, but it just falls behind in too many ways. It cost me more, too.
      Compared to the 18-55, well it depends on the body, because OIS is worth more than 1 stop for lowlight work. And for separation and portrait, a faster prime is preferable anyway.
      But the sigma is priced much better for lens only buyers. If you don't crop, pixel peep, shoot at MFD and will just be sharing on social media or friends and family, the sigma is absolutely good enough. But the same can be said for many cheap kit lenses.
      As a kit, this new lens makes a lot of sense. The added value of a wider field of view on a camera cannot be understated. It makes a big difference. Internal zoom on a lens like this? Unnecessary perhaps, but again adds to it's use anywhere purpose.

    • @lionheart4424
      @lionheart4424 4 месяца назад +2

      Dustin Abbot has been checking some recent lenses on the 40MP sensor, including the Sigma compared against the XF 16-55mm.

  • @anthonyroffe5628
    @anthonyroffe5628 4 месяца назад +1

    Great honest r review, thankyou.
    Nikon user here, think I will get this one for a walk around and holiday camera with the new zoom. I have been considering the nikon zf, but the form factor of the Fuji will probably win.

  • @outofabook
    @outofabook 3 месяца назад +2

    Fantastic review! You really had absolutely everything I was hoping to learn about the lens.

  • @teamoverc-hellletloose
    @teamoverc-hellletloose 4 месяца назад +4

    Very comprehensive review! Thank you!

  • @ruialmeida5884
    @ruialmeida5884 4 месяца назад +1

    I prefer Xf 18-55mm with ois ;)

  • @_rajesh_priyadarshi
    @_rajesh_priyadarshi День назад

    Very informative…thank you!

  • @juleshorse9056
    @juleshorse9056 4 месяца назад +1

    Excellent review. I have used the 18-55 since I joined Fujiland in 2016. It's a great general purpose and hiking lens. But, I wanted 16mm and WR, so ordered the 16-50 this morning (I'll trade-in the 18-55). The small additional improvement in sharpness is welcomed. Looking forward to it arriving, hopefully in June.

  • @zdenekmachat2700
    @zdenekmachat2700 4 месяца назад +5

    I sold my XF18-55, it was soft. I'm going to decide whether the new XF16-50 or the Sigma 18-50, I'm all about image quality. My body is Fujifilm X-S10

    • @juliel7522
      @juliel7522 3 месяца назад +1

      I'm facing the same dilemma, which one did you choose? Sharpness, bokeh and min focus distance is more important to me than the extra 2mm (sigma has macro capabilities)

    • @vanislesam
      @vanislesam Месяц назад

      Consider tamron 17-70

  • @nieo777
    @nieo777 4 месяца назад +1

    Image Stabilization comparison would be nice

  • @Bayonet1809
    @Bayonet1809 4 месяца назад +1

    Excellent review once again Richard.
    Not sure that the front is much less susceptible to dust ingress, as it looks to still move in and out, only that it does so within the dimensions of the exterior barrel. Either way, it is not really something I worry about though.
    The improved sunstars (at a reasonable aperture like f/5.6) are good to see, as Fuji have never prioritised them before now, so hopefully this is a sign of thing to come for future lens releases from them too.

  • @andrear9500
    @andrear9500 4 месяца назад +1

    This is a review, with plenty of comparisons, tests and thoughts. Thank you.
    PS: that’s more quality than the words kit lens mean in general opinion

  • @DavidMBanes
    @DavidMBanes 4 месяца назад +1

    No OIS, I'll have to stick with my XC 15-45mm OIS on the X-E4. I have been waiting on getting a an 18-55mm hoping this new lens had stabilisation :(

    • @TheRealRichardWong
      @TheRealRichardWong  4 месяца назад

      I have a feeling the new lenses (at least the wide to standard) won't have OIS from now onwards. It's the same for most other brands as well.

    • @DavidMBanes
      @DavidMBanes 4 месяца назад +1

      @@TheRealRichardWong I think you are correct. They appear to be moving stabilisation into the camera bodies. If we get an X-E5 I'll have to start saving and swap my X-E4 for one.

  • @Zvangimo
    @Zvangimo 4 месяца назад +6

    One of the best lens review videos I have seen. Really practical and smart tests. Subscribed.

  • @joeyc.323
    @joeyc.323 3 месяца назад

    Hi, I’m with my X-T50 right now but the xc lens, and I willing to buy a new lens, anybody can recommend me between 1650/2.8-4.8 and 1655/2.8 thx!

  • @hilalielhilali8287
    @hilalielhilali8287 Месяц назад

    Good job, however does the 16-50 lose focus while zooming in a video?!

  • @labo66
    @labo66 4 месяца назад

    Having WR is a very good advantage. But, not having the OIS is very, very, very bad for those having the XT-3. A XT-3 is always a very good camera, but do not have the OIS in is body. That is the reason why I prefer the 16-80 with both WR and OIS and not the old 18-55. It woul really be interesting to have OIS and WR on this new lense. But without OIS, it is not interresting.

  • @mobysome
    @mobysome 3 месяца назад +1

    May I know which is a good lens for general landscape and portrait (for travel)?

    • @TheRealRichardWong
      @TheRealRichardWong  3 месяца назад +1

      This lens is a good choice I think?

    • @mobysome
      @mobysome 2 месяца назад

      @@TheRealRichardWong thanks! I am thinking if i need another prime lens probably a 23mm f1.4 to compliment this lens (for portraits, streets, low light)

  • @mehmetalikaplan7386
    @mehmetalikaplan7386 2 месяца назад

    I am gonna wait for the next xf16-55 , this nem kit is not impressive!

  • @spookvision
    @spookvision 3 месяца назад

    Which lens would you pick for someone who mainly shoot videos but also a bit of photos? Camera that I’ll be using it with is the xs20

  • @jebeq2007
    @jebeq2007 4 месяца назад +3

    Honestly the optical diffrence is so marginal that only a pixel peeper will see it. I think the old 18-55 has a better build and the IOS comes in so handy with the older fuji's that don't have IBIS. I think I will be holding on to my 18-55. I do wonder if Fuji will offer anything for people that recently purchased the X-T5 kit that came with the 18-55, maybe a trade in?

  • @71co0k
    @71co0k 4 месяца назад

    How would you say the image quality performs at a specific focal length, like 23mm, compared to the fujifilm prime lens at that focal length? Thanks

  • @mahdimanesh4221
    @mahdimanesh4221 2 месяца назад

    Nice review. By the way, any opinion about this lens and the old 16-55, just image quality wise?

    • @TheRealRichardWong
      @TheRealRichardWong  2 месяца назад +1

      Sorry i don't have too much experience with the 16-55 so can't really comment about it.

  • @karlklauda7739
    @karlklauda7739 3 месяца назад

    An excellent review. I just ordered this lens as travel lens on overseas shootings. In August I'm in the US and Canada. I'm sure this lens will serve me well, traveling with a "light" camera bagback.

  • @miklosnemeth8566
    @miklosnemeth8566 4 месяца назад +3

    The fact that the 16-50 is internal zooming is a game changer, this is huge. Possibly, this is the first internal zooming lens Fujifilm ever made for the X system. If you ever had an internal zoom lens, you will not want to go back again to use protruding lenses. This 1650 lens alone is enough reason to go for the X-T50. I am hesitating between the fantastic X-T50 and gorgeous S9, but there is no internal zooming lense in the L-mount system, so this lens for X-T50 is really a "decisive moment" to paraphrase Bresson.

    • @OMURFERAHCAN
      @OMURFERAHCAN 3 месяца назад

      Not 'the first internal zooming lens Fujifilm ever made' though. There is XF 18-120 F4 power zoom lens

    • @miklosnemeth8566
      @miklosnemeth8566 3 месяца назад

      @@OMURFERAHCAN thank you I've checked that lens. interesting, I hope that this 1650 is going to be much better lens.

    • @luisarturohernandezramirez5910
      @luisarturohernandezramirez5910 3 месяца назад

      This lens will come as a kit for the xt5 as well so you might want that instead of the xt50 combo

    • @LorenzoLamarche
      @LorenzoLamarche Месяц назад

      I don’t understand why people find it a huge deal

  • @zeissiez
    @zeissiez 4 месяца назад +2

    The older Fujifilm XC 16-50 F3.5-5.6 is very underrated.
    Pros:
    1. Cheap
    2. Small, Lightweight, No front heavy
    3. Starts with 24mm
    4. OIS
    5. Weather resistance (excellent in actual use, although not “officially” weather resistant)
    6. Resistance to scratch (plastic, no paint coming off from metal body)
    7. Great optics
    Cons:
    1. Not F2.8
    Comparisons:
    Fuji XF 16-55 F2.8,
    Pro: F2.8
    Cons: big/heavy, expensive, no OIS, not resistance to scratch
    Fuji 15-45,
    Cons: power zoom slow to operate
    Fuji 18-55 F2.8-4,
    Pros: one stop faster
    Cons: no 24mm, not resistance to scratch, more expensive
    New Fuji 16-50 F2.8-4.8,
    Pros: 1/3 (tele) ~ 1 (wide) stop faster
    Cons: much more expensive, not resistance to scratch, no OIS.
    To me, the best standard zoom for Fuji is the XC 16-50.

    • @henrikhelmers1412
      @henrikhelmers1412 4 месяца назад

      The XC 15-45 has poor image quality, and the XC 16-50 is also not great. The XC lenses lack the same corrections as XF lenses (both in-body and in most RAW converters). To me, the XC lineup feels like kit lenses from other brands. The XF lineup is a cut above.

    • @zeissiez
      @zeissiez 4 месяца назад +1

      @@henrikhelmers1412
      I have compared directly the 16-50 with the 16-55 F2.8, they are very very close. Yes, very very close. Even at the far corners, even at 16mm, which is generally poor with small lenses.

  • @gillyb44
    @gillyb44 4 месяца назад

    great video, but I wont be giving up my faithful 18-55mm

  • @joeyc923
    @joeyc923 3 месяца назад

    Wow very nice technical side-by-side review. Subscribed! I am not usually a fan of this kind of video but this was so well done, I am very impressed.

  • @opalyankaBG
    @opalyankaBG 3 месяца назад

    Great comparison, thanks!
    My 18-55 has a very strong field curvature at 18mm, I expected way worse performance in the corners in your comparison. Did you focus in the corners there?

    • @TheRealRichardWong
      @TheRealRichardWong  3 месяца назад

      Hi there :). in this review, I've explained the soft corner I got from the 18-55 initially when I focused at center, then if i focus at corners, the corner is sharp, but then the centre is soft

    • @opalyankaBG
      @opalyankaBG 3 месяца назад

      @@TheRealRichardWong Ah, I thought it was mentioned for 55mm only ;)

    • @TheRealRichardWong
      @TheRealRichardWong  3 месяца назад

      @@opalyankaBG oh sorry i miss read "18mm" as "55mm". No I didn't notice field curvature at 18mm with the 18-55mm. My test photo were shot with focus at centre and it was sharper than the 16-50mm lens

  • @douglasschlesser320
    @douglasschlesser320 4 месяца назад

    I'm thinking of picking this up for my X-T30ii. I'm just stating out and don't have a zoom lens yet. Would they pair well? Do you have a different suggestion? Would appreciate it!

    • @TheRealRichardWong
      @TheRealRichardWong  4 месяца назад +1

      In your case, since your camera doesn't have IBIS (inbody image stabiliser) , I might suggest a lens with OIS like the 18-55 OIS

    • @Thomas-mn5ih
      @Thomas-mn5ih 2 месяца назад

      Or maybe the xc 15-45mm if you shoot more on the wide side.

  • @Ahmad7Zakki
    @Ahmad7Zakki 3 месяца назад

    nice review, help me understanding new kit lens a lot, thanks richard wong

  • @eagleeyephoto8715
    @eagleeyephoto8715 4 месяца назад +1

    This is not internal zoom lens and story about designer freedom and perfect sense to not have OIS is simply to explain as it was for Fujifilm cheaper to make one without OIS. There is no any sense and let alone conveniance to not have OIS as dual stabilisation option. Same thing is with rubber rings ,they are cheap and feel cheap when compared to metal .

  • @eelpern5123
    @eelpern5123 4 месяца назад

    What an informative video. Thank you for your time and for sharing your expertise with the rest of us.

  • @mixdown78
    @mixdown78 4 месяца назад

    Superb, excellent, complete Review. Thank you.

  • @Wordsalad69420
    @Wordsalad69420 4 месяца назад

    I don't understand this lens. They literally made it worse because it's f4.8 versus f4 on the original one.

    • @yellow-pill
      @yellow-pill 4 месяца назад +2

      0.5 stop darker = worse, get good dude

    • @Wordsalad69420
      @Wordsalad69420 4 месяца назад

      @@yellow-pill f4 lets in less light than f4.8, what are you talking about?

    • @yellow-pill
      @yellow-pill 4 месяца назад +2

      @@Wordsalad69420 so we're just gonna ignore that it has internal zooming, that it's lighter, has weather resistance, that 16mm is more interesting wide angle than 18mm, that 16-50 has better image quality in many aspects (especially for the new 40mp sensor) and 18-55 had quality control all over the place with many soft copies. But it's darker by f0.8 on one end, what's why it's worse, right? Because you lose like a few minutes ability to shoot in the sunset or what? Or your bokeh balls become smaller by 2%? Fujifilm made sure we have a better overall lens and experience with it, and if you care about f0.8 difference you're just wrong

    • @Wordsalad69420
      @Wordsalad69420 4 месяца назад +1

      @@yellow-pill Well when you put it that way lol. Maybe I should have spent more than 30 seconds looking into this lens.

  • @arturaszaleskis8907
    @arturaszaleskis8907 4 месяца назад +1

    Dude this lense looks bad even for marketing purposes

  • @ozuidema
    @ozuidema 4 месяца назад

    very thorough and pro review, man, thanks a lot!

  • @robertbland5131
    @robertbland5131 4 месяца назад +6

    The 18-55 is blowing it out the water.. They are giving you a cheaper lens. It is not made as strong as the 18 and 55 because it got less metal and more plastic in it. This is why the 16-55 is lighter. And then I do not have image stability. FUJIFILM is trying to go the cheaper route… and this idiot is talking about the 18-55 is very soft. He’s a liar. he would do anything to help Stay on his channel by reviewing these lenses

    • @CadenMcCullough2424
      @CadenMcCullough2424 4 месяца назад +3

      Did you look at the test photos at 55mm? Cmon you’re lying to yourself if you saying those corners were sharp.

    • @Kliffot
      @Kliffot 4 месяца назад

      My 18-55 doesn't have much field curvature, bit surprised here. I also think that new lens despite being a tad sharper is actually cheaper and completely overprice. Because of inflation the quality in general among all brands is going down unfortunatly.

    • @SirMopy
      @SirMopy 6 дней назад

      @@Kliffotit’s not overpriced moron. you only should buy this lens in the kit with the T5 and T50… it’s 300 bucks cheaper when bought with the body.. if you already have a body this makes no sense to get it as a standalone. also a new lens doesn’t mean everyone should get this.. it’s new for specific people..

  • @NJM1948
    @NJM1948 4 месяца назад

    Excellent review of both camera and lens

    • @avokevo5394
      @avokevo5394 4 месяца назад

      Agreed! Very comprehensive, cheers.

  • @spkvlogs7601
    @spkvlogs7601 4 месяца назад

    I am first comment🙋🏻‍♂️

  • @dirk.4711
    @dirk.4711 4 месяца назад

    Third!

  • @leimleim
    @leimleim 4 месяца назад +2

    I agree with your discoveries about the 18-55's field curvature. I didn't get why many people praised that lens as sharp because it is not. cheers, great review

    • @TheRealRichardWong
      @TheRealRichardWong  4 месяца назад

      thanks for watching Luis :)

    • @mdvp123
      @mdvp123 4 месяца назад +2

      Depends. If you shoot brick walls for a living, you might notice the field curvature. For most normal purposes, the 18-55 is amazingly sharp. It was razor sharp on the first generation sensors, kept up really well on the 24-26mp sensors, and even today on extremely demanding 40mp sensors you have to zoom to 200% to see any real difference in sharpness. It completely deserves its status as best kit lens ever.

    • @leimleim
      @leimleim 4 месяца назад +1

      @@mdvp123 Sorry but I disagree, and I do not shoot brick walls for a living. Field curvature is also important when focusing and recomposing, though. I have a copy of it for video on my X-T3 but for pictures any Nikon kit lens, the 18-105 for example is sharper and with less field curvature. I guess if you believe it can keep up with the 40mp sensors, your image quality standards are lower than mine, for sure. Cheers.

  • @drs-Rigo-Reus
    @drs-Rigo-Reus 4 месяца назад +1

    The corner is brurry, indeed.

  • @steventhomas231
    @steventhomas231 4 месяца назад +2

    The extra width is so useful.

  • @Leptospirosi
    @Leptospirosi 4 месяца назад

    Well done review! 👏

  • @wtfighter
    @wtfighter 4 месяца назад

    New King? Its good but its very far for be King. Sigma has the 18-50 2.8 all the range and very crisp and sharp glass.

  • @dangir1783
    @dangir1783 4 месяца назад

    No it's a bad lens especially the edges and it's sold at an exaggerated price especially in Europe with taxes. Fujifilm must make zoom lenses without compromises and a revision of the 16/55 F2.8
    If he is not able to do it, he must have the courage to have the lenses made by Sigma. The new 24 70 Art Mark 2 is fantastic, sharp in the center and also at the edges.

  • @maciejryglewicz9775
    @maciejryglewicz9775 4 месяца назад +3

    Old 18-55 is a trash but ... looks sharper than new 16-50 or ... i'm blind.

    • @paulthomas8986
      @paulthomas8986 4 месяца назад +2

      I noticed the 18-55 was sharper in the corners at the wide end, and also had more contrast in all the shots. The blacks were blacker, and the colors were more punchy.

    • @maciejryglewicz9775
      @maciejryglewicz9775 4 месяца назад +1

      @@paulthomas8986 for me this new lens is unusable. Fuji engineers should be ashamed of themselves. Their hi-tech development is far behind other brands. And these prices... Its a comedy.

    • @To.mariomtz
      @To.mariomtz 4 месяца назад

      Why the old 18-55 is a trash? I just received mine on a kit yesterday and a haven’t tried yet