Good piss take, of bad quartets and Wagner. It is even funnier if you can understand the score. Some of the written gaffes are priceless. My favourite moments are the glissando harmonics near the end.
The difference being Mozart made fun of his own composition with a musical joke, while Hindemith was always too full of himself to do this and found it easier to lopk down on others and mock their compositions... that's the diference between genius (Mozart) and mediocrity (Hindemith)
@@clavichord I see his humor went right above your head. He wasn't mocking Wagner here. He was mocking the habit of good music being murdered by spa orchestras who instead of sticking to their own devices and playing mediocre music by mediocre composers continuously tried to play music that was out of their league, just because they thought the audiences would want to hear it. ;)
@@Quotenwagnerianer Maybe he was mocking both... after all, he choose Wagner's overture, not that of another composer or of himself... that's why I see a difference with Mozart's musical joke... lets say if Mozart had chosen a piece by Haydn as a musical joke... something Mozart didn't do because he had admiration for Haydn.... likewise many Jazz musicians have used Bach's music to make new music inspired by Bach... purists could argue they don't like this... but no one can argue that Jacques Loussier mocked or disrespected Bach's music.... but used it as inspiration. I don't see any inspiration or variation other than mocking an inspired and beautiful overture without, I presume, the composer or his family's permission. Maybe Hindemith had a dislike for Wagner as his wife was half Jewish... maybe he had a bone to pick.... I mean, fair enough... many people do have bones to pick with Wagner... I guess... but it is honesty to admit to ridiculing Wagners music and explaining why. Hindemith's attitude to Wagner is worth further exploration after coming across this piece.
@@PiersHudsonComposer just because Mozart did it in his musical joke doesn't mean it is in this piece at all. No correlation really. It is surprising after all.
As someone who enjoys Wagner and Hindemith, I really laughed at this, It has some very cool chord changes, I have always said that "if Classical Music is bad, it would have to be played badly all the time", AND HERE IT'S THE IRONY, sounds like it's played by "drunken sailors", And this arrangement (parody) has a similar goal, In believing that musicians are drunk while playing this. And as someone who is very fond of viennese dance pieces, I didn't expect to hear Waldteufel's Skaters Waltz at the end.
I am reminded of the 1956 film "The Green Man" which features a ladies' piano trio comprising the nameless leader and her colleagues Felicity and Annabel. They cheerfully bang, scrape and saw their way through their music with great aplomb. But I suspect Wagner would have been a bit too demanding for them. And their listeners. I think "fountain" might be a better translation of "Brunnen" - it's where the health-giving waters gush from, even at 7am.
Your translation of the subtitle does not account for the words "vom Blatt." Instead of "played" (spielt), a better translation might be "sight-read" (vom Blatt spielt = played from the page).
Unfortunately the Buchberger Quartet is helplessly professional in its ensemble and rhythm, which doesn't mesh with the backward intonation that Hindemith notates. The same problem happens in performances of Mozart's A Musical Joke.
Hindemith actually greatly admired Wagner's work, especially Tristan und Isolde, which he saw as very far ahead of its time in terms of how well it realized chromatic musical concepts.
Hindemith was very alarmed at the ultra-nationalism taking hold of Germany between the two world wars, and part of that was the elevation/obsession with Wagner's music. Hindemith wrote several parodies of Wagner's work in the 20s and 30s, kind of as an attempt to tell Germany, "hey hey, let's not get too full of ourselves." In that regard, it didn't work. Hindemith was labelled a "degenerate" by the Nazi party and he and his wife were forced to flee to the United States shortly after WWII started.
J'ai lu quelque part qu'ayant interprété avec ses amis ce quatuor en public (pourtant restreint) vers 1936, Hindemith, parti en tournée en Suisse un peu après fut avisé d'avoir à demander l'asile politique et à ne pas revenir en Allemagne, où l'attendait un "comité d'accueil" envoyé par Goebbels, qu'il valait mieux éviter. Il suivit ce conseil et ne revint chez lui qu'en 1945.
@@rayancharafeddine4982 That's possible.... but sometimes fame is justified, sometimes it is not. There are composers only now being rediscovered, who had been forgotten undeservedly.
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Unfortunately poor recording. Played far too incisively and in tune.
OMG tried not to laugh
viola “fishing” for the C at 1:59 kills me every time
What a hilarious musical joke. Love the point where "The oboe missed its entry"
I have been looking for this SINCE COLLEGE, when it was broadcast on the radio and I never heard it again!
Good piss take, of bad quartets and Wagner. It is even funnier if you can understand the score. Some of the written gaffes are priceless. My favourite moments are the glissando harmonics near the end.
Mine too. That's a jaunty little waltz melody.
the best shitpost since Mozart’s Musical Joke
joemama he was serious though
The difference being Mozart made fun of his own composition with a musical joke, while Hindemith was always too full of himself to do this and found it easier to lopk down on others and mock their compositions... that's the diference between genius (Mozart) and mediocrity (Hindemith)
@@clavichord I see his humor went right above your head. He wasn't mocking Wagner here. He was mocking the habit of good music being murdered by spa orchestras who instead of sticking to their own devices and playing mediocre music by mediocre composers continuously tried to play music that was out of their league, just because they thought the audiences would want to hear it. ;)
@@Quotenwagnerianer Maybe he was mocking both... after all, he choose Wagner's overture, not that of another composer or of himself... that's why I see a difference with Mozart's musical joke... lets say if Mozart had chosen a piece by Haydn as a musical joke... something Mozart didn't do because he had admiration for Haydn.... likewise many Jazz musicians have used Bach's music to make new music inspired by Bach... purists could argue they don't like this... but no one can argue that Jacques Loussier mocked or disrespected Bach's music.... but used it as inspiration.
I don't see any inspiration or variation other than mocking an inspired and beautiful overture without, I presume, the composer or his family's permission.
Maybe Hindemith had a dislike for Wagner as his wife was half Jewish... maybe he had a bone to pick.... I mean, fair enough... many people do have bones to pick with Wagner... I guess... but it is honesty to admit to ridiculing Wagners music and explaining why. Hindemith's attitude to Wagner is worth further exploration after coming across this piece.
And the best one since this was Shostakovich's Symphony no. 9
Thanks for posting that score ! An interesting piece with a surprising final chord !!!
It's pretty unsurprising; Mozart did it in A Musical Joke
@@PiersHudsonComposer just because Mozart did it in his musical joke doesn't mean it is in this piece at all. No correlation really. It is surprising after all.
the fleeying doochmon
If anyone can write bad spa music, then it's Hindemith.
What's spa music? I think I'm 100 years too late to know.
@@rnhtube Music played by a bad spa orchestra.
@@PiersHudsonComposer Is it a British thing? You'll have to excuse me; I am unfortunately American.
@@rnhtube Yes, very traditional; we always played at 7 AM by the well. As I live in a spa town, I can attest to this.
@@rnhtube It's an orchestra playing in socalled "Kurorten" in last century Germany to holiday tourists for recreational purposes.
This harder to play than the real overture!
Thankyou . Hilarious . I must find so much by Hindemith . He was in all the textbooks of the 1950's on . 'Yet I see his name on few programs today !
This piece alternates between Interesting, Fascinating, Funny, Beautiful, Surprising, and even more.
Thanks a lot for uploading!
as someone who had never heard the Flying Dutchman Overture before i didn't think this sounded that bad
My thought exactly. I'm tempted not to listen to the real thing after hearing this so as not to spoil the enjoyment.
I needed that to smile again.
Best example of cursed music.
A first of those “notated mistake” pieces that are all the rage nowadays, along with Mozart’s Musical Joke.
If this is what I heard at 7 AM, you know that I'd be IN the well, dead because I jumped down it.
XD
Bob Sagat is already down there
The flying dutchman except it's terrible and made me fail music theory
...and I got distracted also. 6:15
As someone who enjoys Wagner and Hindemith, I really laughed at this, It has some very cool chord changes, I have always said that "if Classical Music is bad, it would have to be played badly all the time", AND HERE IT'S THE IRONY, sounds like it's played by "drunken sailors", And this arrangement (parody) has a similar goal, In believing that musicians are drunk while playing this. And as someone who is very fond of viennese dance pieces, I didn't expect to hear Waldteufel's Skaters Waltz at the end.
Hindemith had a great sense of humor. One more reason for the Nazis to dislike him.
I love how they suck at everything but nail the Strauß at 6:14
Not Strauss, Waldteufel
"Schlittschuhläufer"waldteufel
God dang I love this song pure anarchy .
I am reminded of the 1956 film "The Green Man" which features a ladies' piano trio comprising the nameless leader and her colleagues Felicity and Annabel. They cheerfully bang, scrape and saw their way through their music with great aplomb. But I suspect Wagner would have been a bit too demanding for them. And their listeners.
I think "fountain" might be a better translation of "Brunnen" - it's where the health-giving waters gush from, even at 7am.
Or "spring"
I love it !
Now, I want to hear the whole opera this way.
Your translation of the subtitle does not account for the words "vom Blatt." Instead of "played" (spielt), a better translation might be "sight-read" (vom Blatt spielt = played from the page).
I know; that title breaks the title length limit
Bullshit auf höchstem Niveau. Ich liebe es :D
realistic
This is unironically better than the original.
The Cello is the BEST
Unfortunately the Buchberger Quartet is helplessly professional in its ensemble and rhythm, which doesn't mesh with the backward intonation that Hindemith notates. The same problem happens in performances of Mozart's A Musical Joke.
Did he have beef with Wagner?
No. He had a beef with spa orchestras.
Hindemith actually greatly admired Wagner's work, especially Tristan und Isolde, which he saw as very far ahead of its time in terms of how well it realized chromatic musical concepts.
No. I think this is pretty much a transcription of the bad orchestra he actually heard in the Hotel/Spa he was staying at?
Hindemith was very alarmed at the ultra-nationalism taking hold of Germany between the two world wars, and part of that was the elevation/obsession with Wagner's music. Hindemith wrote several parodies of Wagner's work in the 20s and 30s, kind of as an attempt to tell Germany, "hey hey, let's not get too full of ourselves." In that regard, it didn't work. Hindemith was labelled a "degenerate" by the Nazi party and he and his wife were forced to flee to the United States shortly after WWII started.
It's so easy to re-write Wagner's pieces in a worse/ridicolous way because writing them better is absolutely not even a thing...
Is this mostly flat on purpose?
It's often sharp. Why do non-musicians think that "flat" is synonymous with "out of tune"?
well, it's not as bad as it sounds
J'ai lu quelque part qu'ayant interprété avec ses amis ce quatuor en public (pourtant restreint) vers 1936, Hindemith, parti en tournée en Suisse un peu après fut avisé d'avoir à demander l'asile politique et à ne pas revenir en Allemagne, où l'attendait un "comité d'accueil" envoyé par Goebbels, qu'il valait mieux éviter. Il suivit ce conseil et ne revint chez lui qu'en 1945.
Why?
This is just the flying dutchman overture with Hindemithian harmonies...........right?
My ears!…My ears!!
Everybody saying it sounds like Wagner. What does that make Wagner then..?
Sounds like Hindemith ...
Wagner who?
Let's do a street test... a) who has heard of Wagner b) who has heared of Hindemith
@@clavichord let's do a street test. Who has heard of Tyler Swift? And who has heard of Bach?
@@rayancharafeddine4982 Bach would remain high up on the list...even with non classical music fans...
@@clavichord yes but less than Taylor Swift.. but it says nothing about their merits
@@rayancharafeddine4982 That's possible.... but sometimes fame is justified, sometimes it is not. There are composers only now being rediscovered, who had been forgotten undeservedly.
Perhaps there's more to Hindemith than meets the eye?
No. There's less
Hindemith DID have a sense of humour, But this really should be played much worse out of tune!
Lol
This sounds like Wagner.
handelviola i can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not
@@Tjgtjgtjg the mark of good sarcasm
‘They say that Wagner’s music is better than it sounds.’ - Edgar Wilson Nye
this is way better than Wagner in general
@@granthicks2030 For the longest time thought this was from GBS...
It's not as bad as most of Hindemith's other works.
haha
Wow so funny. Something else that’s funny is the fact you have no ears. Haha
Lol
Not funny enough.
Now, I want to hear the whole opera this way.