Voynich Manuscript Explained
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2022
- In October 2020, I delved into trying to understand the most enigmatic manuscript in the world. I approached this in an unbiased fashion, without prejudicing myself. I gained an overall understanding of the purpose of this manuscript, and realized that it was written in the spirit of Hildegard von Bingen. Over the ensuing two years, I have been able to delve into the published literature and compare notes. This video is a summary of my insights. It was recorded on July 16, 2022. The videographer was Arvydas Reneckis.
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I think you are on to something more than anyone else has come up with. Absolutely great thinking and seeing what has not been talked about before.
I love this. It's the only interpretation I've seen that hones in on it being a women's health manual, which seems obvious to me.. I have a couple of areas of disagreement, though.
1. I've seen lots of pictures from that time period that use pictures of people and demons to indicate spirits affecting people or things. The women in the pictures aren't all bathing (my uneducated opinion), they're the spirits of the organs and blood. Even the pictures of the plants with animal qualities could simply be the spirits inhabiting the plants.
2. Where there's pictures of other organs, it doesn't have to be separate from female health and reproduction. Other organs affect and are affected by the reproductive system.
Overall, I'm fascinated at your approach and your conclusions. Thank you for this
What a wonderful presentation. Very enjoyable. Calming manner but equally garnering interest and was thought provoking. Thank you for sharing.
Watching this video, learned new things: roots with an animal depicted and some with heads/faces, and observation about sunflowers.
With regard to plants, a different presentation suggested that over time many plant species (600?) have gone extinct therefore it is possible some plants are just unknown today but may have existed. Nobody knows.
I think your opening statement is one of the most important overall lessons for life. So many people choose to view things one dimensionally by following some kind of educational path from their background or pre determined notions about the topic not even realizing that they’re already off on the wrong direction because they’re not viewing things with a clear mind, they’re looking with preconceived notions of what they already believe to be true not realizing their very fundamentals might be whats preventing them from seeing meaning in a bigger picture.
Thank you for your thoughtful interpretation of the Voynich MS - here are my thoughts (I have a B.A. & M.A. in History of Art): (1) ancient music for chants was written on huge sheets displayed so several singers could read the notes at a glance so I don't see the V-MS as a music book, per se. (2) what shouted at me, at first glance, was THISTLES which may have been regarded as a health cure for liver ailments, etc. (3) I also sense New Testament verses about the symbolism of "I am the vine and you are the branches" (John 15) and grafting plants (Romans 11). (4) I've been researching ancient Roman history for years (for a book I have yet to finish) and recall that the Romans over-harvested certain plants so much the plants became extinct so perhaps that's why we don't recognize the ones illustrated here. (5) Also, ancient Romans highly prized bathing and the public baths (enormous structures as shown in the Voynich MS) were open at certain times of the day to women, and at other times for men. Mixed-sex bathing was not acceptable. (6) The Wall St Journal (1-14,15-2023) published an article about bathing in the Middle Ages which relates directly to the Voynich MS - including wooden bathing buckets! (7) If the puzzle of the Voynich MS is to be solved, what scholars and rare book dealers should be looking for is a companion MS about medieval men's health issues, olden herbal cures and public bathing. Happy Hunting! - csd
Romans 11: This is not literal. It references the 'Gentiles' being grafted onto the 'Tree of Life'
As I was reading the sacred mushroom and the cross this book kept coming to mind the more I read on.
Absolutely fascinating! Your explanation makes so much sense. As a linguist, I have always been fascinated by this work, but I didn’t know that Voynich was Lithuanian. Makes me proud! Thanks for a great presentation.
Holy crap the chanting theory is one I've never heard of. It makes perfect sense with the word and structure problem that always arises when trying to find meaning in the VM
i had heard of this manuscript befor the internet, and followed it since , i totally agree with your synopsis ✌
Excellent work! Thank you for sharing your research and findings.
Sir, I have been fascinated with the manuscript for years. Your take is excellent. Thank you for doing the work and putting out a very thoughtful video
So have I and I don't ever think we will know what it is
No one has ever seen text like this before even some of the best minds in the world
Fascinating hypothesis and interpretation. Thank you for posting.
A widely informed and simpatico speaker - a don & an artist - on an intriguing mystery. 🤔 (Green Fire, UK) 🌈🦉
Quite interesting analysis. So perhaps some connecting book from Hildegard existed that is unknown was passed down and this manuscript secretly was the basis for the Voynich? The Voynich. Was not the original but it had to be encoded to escape the inquisition? Fascinating ideas. Your approach is definitely better than attempting to decipher the manuscript in written words. Perhaps some is for chants and some is describing medicinals. Thank you!
Love it: you should do more videos like this !
That was thoroughly enlightening! I have read, and seen much on the manuscript and you present an entirely different perspective giving new insight into what this book could be? The repetitive characters make no sense as a language at all. However, the chanting does! All women. All women who are either pregnant or, bloated due to other physical issues. I was thinking gallbladder because it causes a distension of the lower abdomen. The green water could be bile. In those times, women suffered from all sorts of natural processes and diseases that were not taken seriously. I wonder if the common urinary tract infections suffered by women especially through the times when women were sexually active played part in the illustrations of the distended abdomens inside of what looks like bladders? The manuscript could encompass everything that is of the female internal issues.
The slow methodical progress of the presentation brings you forward into insights that one has not encountered in other delves into this work. I do hope those who do come upon your work, take the time to see what lies next, patiently.
Your presentation inspires me to share this with my sister who is a professor of Native American Indian and Indian ethnomusicology. In India, she studied the ancient languages of Sanskrit, along with Hindi and Arabic. She was the first to introduce to the West ancient sacred music of India and Islam. As you know the Vedas were chanted in an epic poetry format. If one word is wrong or missing, the entire chant/spiritual text falls flat. This might be something of that nature, though in vocal/instrumental form. I will see if she would like to have a look at your work and see what she thinks? She is a professor in America as well as working for the government of India and Bollywood. She has her work formally published, and requested by the college of Oxford, China, and countries all over the world. She cut her teeth on choral music, is a professional choir director & organist (presently at a Lutheran church). She began formal musical training at the age of 6 and choral studies at age 8. She is almost 60 presently.
A wonderful summary of the Voynich Manuscript. Hope that in the near future it will be possible to read it. Would be fantastic!
Yeah a wonderful summary but that's all it is we still don't know what the hell it means and why the hell it was written
A professor named Stephen Bax started to decode it 10 years ago and managed to read a few words. He was doing a really good job, but unfortunately he died shortly after the first video he put out. His work was really promising. Here is the link to his video and website (which is still up). m.ruclips.net/video/fpZD_3D8_WQ/видео.html&pp=ygUedm95bmljaCBtYW51c2NyaXB0IHN0ZXBoZW4gYmF4
Ty for this understanding
Well done. Thank you. Lots of fun for me, and hard work for our good author.
Good job of pulling it all together
Best analysis I've seen
Thanks
A wonderful, thoughtful take on the manuscript. I noted 2 things that may be relevant. 1. The illustrations of bowel/intestines made me think of the treatment of colonics , a cleansing of the bowel with water, like an enema. 2. The illustration of a large flower at the bottom with a crowd of women inside the flower. You mentioned a botanist could not identify. I am no botanist, but I've done some gardening. This is a poppy! The women represent the many stamens at the centre. The small growths coming up behind the flower look exactly like -- EXACTLY -- like the seed pods of poppies. So is this suggesting the use of poppy seeds as a remedy -- i.e., opium. 3. I suggest that the use of women may be more symbolic - or even an artistic or decorative touch - at times, like women in a bath, when the bath might be in them, at least in 1 or 2 of the pictures. 4. I don't recall whether you mentioned treatments that were done at that period of history and have been lost to time. Perhaps something to be further researched. Thank you. So interesting, and makes sense.
Great assessment
This beautiful piece of art has always intrigued me. I wonder if this book is when someone was trying to figure out ways to bring water into the city. It shows all of the plants roots and the moon which could be due to the use of tides. The images seem to be in some type of baths or pools with pipes connecting. I wonder about these plants and if they are all grown in and around water. Just some thought that I had about the book. This is a wonderful presentation. Thank you for sharing it!!
Just reasonable research. Reason-able!!
Brilliant! Thanks
Hildegard von Bingen lived NOT in "Germany". She lived in the Holy Roman Empire. Northern Italy was part of that.
The first incidence of "Sunflowers", about 16:50 mins/secs in . . . to me in the manual that isn't reminiscent of a sunflower, but a 'bug eating' plant. Designed to catch. It's elongated not round. For easy and fast closing upon the 'catch'. So possible location of growth needs reconsidering.
The Alan Turing movie mentioned "The Enigma Game" is well worth a visit. Good movie and introduces viewers to Alan Turing and important achievement he made which was an essential contribution that changed the course of the war.
This was great. I was thinking about doing a series of videos on the VM myself but I'd not get near this quality of production.
I believe the answer to manuscript lies with Pablo Amaringo and his Ayahuasca visions. The manuscript is clearly psychedelic, and probably written under the influence of magic mushrooms etc
Excellent job
It does make sense that the bath scenes are actually representative diagrams of the digestive system etc. The characters could be some "spirits" believed to carry out functions, or "cartoon" characters added for decoration. (There are some modern cartoons which imagine characters inside the body doing things also.)
Voynich is an ancient village in Poland. Wojnicz, Poland. Before Wilfrid moved to England he spelled his last name Wojnicz. Voynich is an Anglicanized spelling to make our name easier to say for English speakers.
And what does "Wojnicz" literally means, if translated to english?
@LordMountbutter it means "War"
What about the work of Ahmet Ardic and his sons?
They found that it was mainly written in old turkish and have already translated whole pages of the Voynich Manuscript in 2018.
They created a website called turkicresearch and shared two videos in english on the youtube channel Voynich Manuscript Research. Please look into this. They have some amazing insight regarding this matter and deserve the credit.
"Ata Team Alberta (ATA) has deciphered and translated over 30% the manuscript. Currently, a formal paper of the philological study was submitted to an academic journal in John Hopkins University" - this is a quote from 2018
Those guys didn't decipher or translate anything. They started with a bias because they are Turkish and then went from there. There's a reason nobody has heard from them since they made that claim.
Very well presented theory on the Voynich manuscript...would there not be more illustrations of the chants in the Vatican library?
I think there's a possibility that the pictures of plants are recipes, chimeras made up of parts from different plants!
The chanting theory comes from some people claiming to have translated 30% of the manuscript as they say the manuscript is written in a phonetic way of ancient Turkish and that the words repeat a lot to make a beat type rhythm.
I do not believe he came up with the chanting theory independently.
So the speaker's theory is not an original idea, in my opinion.
He said Turing broken the Enigma code. Turing didn't break the Enigma code. The Polish did. The English just built on what the Polish had already done.
3:50 Stomach ulcers. I'm Australian and had a perforated duodenal ulcer when I was 20 in 1983. Ended up in emergency... doubled over in agony. My abdominal muscles tightening in cramp every couple of minutes.
Not that there was much urgency given to me or my case as I was not given any medical attention till the morning, when the Dr turned up for work at their normal time.
After I recovered and went for a follow up visit with the Surgeon who said I must be stressed and that's why I developed an ulcer because of excess stomach acid. I scoffed and told him I'm the least stressed person he's ever known and that the ulcer was due to something else. He insisted I must have some unknown stress causing excess stomach acid. I told him the only stress I have is his not believing me that I'm not stressed.
So even with the 1982, confirmation by Australians that Heliobacter pylori was the cause of stomach ulcers, it wasn't being acknowledge in the medical world in 1983.
I hope my Surgeon recognised their error in not listening to their patient once they had learnt about H Pylori.
Also. The speaker in this video has made errors and refused to acknowledge them, much the way the medical world refused to believe that a bacteria was the cause of stomach ulcers.
www.mortalityresearch.com/main/post/220
Yeah, so the moral of the story is, just because they have letters after their name due to formal studies, doesn't mean they have some special insights beyond what most people have.
They are human. Fact check everything.
Speaker has never said he alone decoded the manuacript, he did not even said he knew about aound theory independently. Do u have ASD? Ulcer has no connection with how soeaker interpret language. Aren’t you also claiming that the researchers are “claiming “ what u think they are?
What a great mind you have Sir
Just MY unprofessional observations about the manuscript itself:
It would appear the index type page with bullet point stars on a string in left margin was written by someone right handed. The bullet points also suggest a left to right writing format, as does the subtle slope as the text progresses down the page.
Noted some of the animals have curly toes, as the 'clubs' icon in a deck of cards, rather than hooves etc. Some plants too.
Some month names etc added to centre of zodiac that looks more in line with more modern western characters compared to those in the manuscript. Someone also noted Sagittarius was depicted as a man with crossbow rather than a centaur.
The faces drawn are quite cute too
The coloured paints used is also of interest, and if they associate with other time periods.
A scientific sample of ink suggested carbon dating to around 1404-1438. Nb The skin/parchment could be older?
Paint and parchment expensive, so one would naturally think the manuscript was real or why else waste a lot of valuable money.
Have heard that ancients/manuscripts may have links to music/healing frequencies etc.
Interesting to hear chants.
Some ancients used clay? body parts trinkets which scholars think was representative of an ailment they had on that part of the body and sought a remedy/healing.
Different people have different views, ie the dragon.
It almost looks like a mirror image of the text is easier to key the code. Your interpretations sound logical.
thanks for this video, when I saw another youtube video about it I looked at many stars and saw star anise herb on the pages. Star Anise is an estrogenic herb.
The way he pronounces roots makes me chuckle
I guess that the plats and their parts are symbolic for real plants and parts, but drawn in a fashion not to be recognizable. When a plant is recognized as something, that may still not be the plant symbolized. The grafting feature is probably a method used to make the drawings more simple by omittting uninteresting parts or to mark where plants shall be cut before use.. The language in the manuscipt is probably an European language, but with the grammar modified to make it look very different. The word order could be highly modified.
Prepositions or auxiliaries may be moved and changed into affixes, and so on.The alphabet may contain several letters for the same sound and used randomly to confuse.Upon that, the text is probably encrypted with some technical method, which even may differ systematically from line to line or the like. Many drawings look childish, but I think this is a feature used to speed up the drawing process.
I think the text decribe accurate receits and procedures and are not primarily chantings for healing or the like. But some of the text may be chants belonging to some procedure. Still the whole text may be written in a style so that it can be sung, by students together to enhance learning. The repeated prefixes can be articles, comjunctions or the like, and the repeated endings something like this too. But they can be dummy elements to make the singing more rhytmic.
Could the grafted or segments of roots indicate something about how many different harvest seasons that particular plant is “good for” or has the most “potent/beneficial” amount of whatever the medicinal properties are? And the chanting- i think it has something to do with specific frequencies-as a lot of old temples/ancient structures incorporate designs for specific sound frequencies and the different parts of human body, mind and soul to which they connect and/or heal. The animal/plant grafts could indicate which particular “season” that plant needs to be harvested-much like today’s “deer/elk/bear hunting” seasons. Or could relate to some astrological animal sign of time of harvest (as for some medicinal properties, some plants need harvesting before or after the time most consider as ripe” I also think some of the astrology stuff could relate to the timing of a woman’s menses and the associated mood changes based on a type of lunar or similar cycle. All speculative of course, as I’m just beginning my journey into the research of studying this intriguing manuscript.
...Also: you're probably right about this having been made inside a convent. The calligraphy quality of the texts indicates a careful uniformity, characteristic of members of this kimd of institution. But some copyists, obviously, are more elegant than others, who are more "clumsy" - but all are disciplined, trained and take great care when writing, drawing or painting.
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the containers r called jhandi from uzebekistan. The alphabet contains 4 different character set from languages spoken in same way but written in different form. There was no consistency of a set language in the region.
The merchants/judicial holy Sindhu men started using 3,4 languages mix in order to hide the contents( depending on the knowledge of the person and area he traveled ). This was done to protect business know-how and maintain superiority at that time. The languages used by the merchants of North western Multan and Sindh were “Multani” and “Landa/Khudabadi/Mahajani” apart from other regional dialects and written words. It was what the Sindhu Mahajan’s( Merchants ) used to do. This kind of book and knowledge was in demand as people relied on auspicious moon cycles and it was part of daily life and it is still in many parts of the world.
very interesting
It was found not only by Voynich from Lithuania, but also deciphered in Lithuania by a Lithuanian researcher of Ukrainian origin!
Your tie resembles a golden Turkish head!
It's an interesting and persuasive hypothesis. But of course it still can't be proven without some sort of translation.
considering the depiction of a spiral galaxy in a book of the early 15th century and the fact that optical lenses where known BC in ägypt, it seems to me the telescope must have been invented and forgotten way before galileo did.
Written in code to survive the inquisition. Brilliant presentation.
Can you read the language? Ty
About "no correction" i think, either they had a draft copy and they just rewrote, or they they have a symbol for correction. Ex this is a miss(remove last character sign)take
To me, it is so obvious that this is mystical! Alchemy is mystical: inner transformation. Also, no corrections and different spellings suggest that these lyrics (chanting) have been repeated for many years (visit any church, songs are memorized from usage) and different spellings because different languages within this group: those who spoke Latin, and those who spoke German, and those who spoke Italian. Woman represents goddess, earth, health, reproduction and vitality of life!
So yea what ya got it look like is a botany book on hallucinogenic plant its coded so a person dosent go find them probably but its a mimosa tree opening its leaves
Did they tried lithuanian language?
How can you explain something indecipherable?
I believe it's written in 5 distinct dead languages, qnd the pictures are spiritual rituals
interesting
Deciphered or explained hehe
Old school spell book. Wikid😎
In the "biological" section, the illustrations refer to PLANTS, not to the feminin reproductive system. The women are represented inside plants, inside botanical organisms. Spreadind seeds, promenading through stems and roots, bathing in sap (that's why the water is green). Or relaxing in leaves. About the language, you're right: it is meant to be not read, but sang. It is meant to COMMUNICATE with the vegetable world. Strange? Well - not really, maybe...
I appreciate the video and will continue watching now. But paused @ 8:41, where it is said that some academic knowledge is needed.
In actuality, don’t let academic pursuits get in the way of obtaining true knowledge within. All is known already. We just need to tap into that Space, with intent for Higher/Source first. Then all else is added into thee. Not trying to preach here. Just saying, look within. The answers are there. And this ‘method’ avoids any mistakes in understanding.
It would be helpful to all, to look at the text as all having spiritual meaning.
For instance, the plant which roots in the earth, the braid, the female organs. Many cultures use this symbolism. Think of the Mother aspect. Yet, it is also Father, depending on the on the function at hand. Braided into each other; not one, not two. The glorious plant which cannot be seen by looking outward, as one normally thinks of the looking.
I’d say the author of the text was a spiritual master.
Bathing is the cleansing within. Clearing of the dross. The water is the cleansing spiritual waters. And the Living Waters. Whereas fire would be related to the burning of the dross, water must first interact with the elements. We must see where there is entanglement. With the spiritual work, through meditation, one can be presented with errors made, and how to remedy the resulting dysfunction.
A conduit is also a term used for how energy travels.
The physical vessel houses the conduit of energy from Source. Kundalini energy.
The bowels, and all of the organs, are related to the hell realms. We must traverse these congested elements, entwined within organs, like a matrix, in order to see the Lights of the Bardo.
One woman pulling the other one’s hair…
Hair is related our entanglement within the hell realm. The hair gets pulled because we are not turning inward. We have the lower soul and the upper Soul. The lower soul as if fights against itself. As if deluded, due to the uncleanliness.
A toroid is also depicted in animation, as spiraling.
Star type shapes are to be found in geometric patterns, such as the poly tetrahedron, which spiritual depicts the wisdom body. Also consider the shapes within geometric patterns such as the Tree of Life. And the 8 pointed symbol could relate to the 8 petals seen within the yantra, symbolized on vajras, etc.
All of these subject matters, though seen by many to represent health, astrology and so forth… all relate to spiritual matters. Therefore, they are not separate subjects in reality, but a means to communicate about system we find ourselves in. The system in which we are placed because we do lack inner knowledge. The key is to look to divine. Then all unfolds in an awe inspiring work that no man can fathom. It must be lived.
This work transcends region of origin. It is as old as Time, no matter when put to page.
Astrology depicts the inner cycle.
Naked women are the unclothed spirit. The spiritual work is about the missing royal robe, when in the fallen state. Although, the Natural Essence comes to mind as well, in relation to nakedness. Solomon speaks to this too, as do other sacred texts.
Hildegard is an awesome example of one looking to spirit for answers. I’ve only seen some of her work, but found that to be symbolic as well. Definitely, Hildegard does embody the text. A Master is not the physical vessel, but animates the physical vessel to transpart divinity to humankind.
@31:51 we see five women and one below them. Perhaps relating to the 5 elements which Mother works upon. Just like a depiction of the Mother Goddess with 5 snakes upon her head.
4, 0 and stylized H: I don’t know the code being used. What’s coming to me though is Hum!
As many Hindu sacred commandments (to the spirits) start off with. A declaration; Hear me!
Let it rest upon us, as we view the page. Inner divinity is seeing it for us. As Mr. Plioplys says, maybe for the chanting. And chanting of higher language starts to come about naturally, as divine works upon the Spiritual vessel.
The writing could be a group activity in that there is the Godhead. We could consider the Godhead to be 3. Or we could see it as 26 frequencies, again depending on the purpose at hand. And each frequency justifying the others.
Of course, with this inner work, comes healing too. Perhaps also, the herbs themselves carry these frequencies, as all of Nature is a grand symphony.
I would say there were no errors in the text. Thus, no need to make any corrections. That’s why corrections are not found there. What might seem like an error, is simply knowledge yet hidden.
An interesting presentation! As an art historian specialised in Renaissance Italy, I must say that (1) The illustrations are of an appalling quality. They might and should have been done much better. (2) Many medieval manuscripts have as their marginal illustrations plant-animal fantasy hybrids. The illustrations found here are not surprising, as they are a continuation of such marginal hybrids. As a linguist, (1) German is a Germanic language and sounds different in every respect from the Romance languages. I am afraid that intoning the text in a Germanic language is a non-sequitur. (2) I believe that the text is not a real text at all. There is at least one page where all the 'words' have four letters. The main example that you give, with so many repetitions even on one page, seems to me a graphic form of echolalia - it looks beautiful. As a scholar generally, I therefore believe that this manuscript was made for fun. It cannot be read. In crude illustrations it shows the insides of women's bodies, perhaps 'travelling through them', that were just being discovered scientifically - autopsies were (grudgingly) allowed in academia for the first time. For instruction purposes, there were beautiful drawings and wax models made of a fetus in the womb (now in museums). You believe the manuscript was about disorders, I believe it was about the construction and workings of the female body, but it is the same difference, so to speak. The idea of water does not need explaining. This connects with the theory of the four humours. Not only is the body filled with fluids, but the lining of the womb is expelled once a month. When pregnant, there is even more water around. In all, I believe this manuscript is a very, very sloppily executed early fifteenth century hoax that does not contain verbal information. Though deliciously tantalising, it is not up to par and I understand why this is one of the manuscripts that the library decided to sell.
I am sorry you feel you have to criticize so harshly. Clearly, this is not an attempt to be artistic, nor to pursue a degree in Fine Arts, but merely illustrative, done by one who had a message important enough to themselves to be worth the effort.
My criticism is not meant to be harsh. I state that it is not up to a par with the many, many fine examples that you can find from this area in this period. It is a manuscript, written on animal skin, and manuscripts were prohibitively expensive to make in materials alone. The fact that it is not great art makes it that much more of mystery. Who would have the money to create a manuscript and then commission an amateur artist? I thought that was clear but I see now that it wasn't. @@donnatroicuk3824
to clarify more: text and illustrations were done by specialists. One (or more) for text, and one (or more) for illustrations. It really is a mystery how this manuscript came about.
I like this mans logical method of thinking. I wonder if this would have happened as an effect of a community of restricted or inprisoned women, maybe a woman church that turned into a cult trying to make sense of their isolation. Thus the befuddling obvious talent of the work along with the appearing near fantasy interpratations.
The trouble is that your methods are hardly scientific and much of your work is based on the works of other people who were either shown to be in error, or, - themselves frequently used methods far removed from Logic of Hypothesis Testing. People frequently forget that science is a type of philosophy called Natural Philosophy, and it's the "natural" part that makes it so powerful and practical. (And CORRECT in its descriptions and predictions). Whether something sounds the same to an online AI program is an extremely dubious method because veracity of its solutions hasn't been scientifically validated for doing with it what you have done. It doesn't even allow one to TEST its engine before buying, - a "buyer beware" product. It recommends to enter punctuation marks Voynich Manuscript has none, as you yourself said. It is limited in a number of (very modern) languages. It is also unknown how exactly you entered the text and which version and which parameters you set, for example, did you enter the text in, "by recommended" "line at a time" or all at once? This is important so others could at the very least replicate your results.
None of that means you're incorrect about what the book actually is. It just means there is no way to verify if you are correct, and whether you got the rest correctly. But already I'm getting very pessimistic vibes from the presentation. Would the Holy Inquisition be less or MORE likely to burn a book they don't understand, full of Nightshade-resembling plants and naked women? I reserve some doubts there. Looks like vile witchcraft even to my untrained non-medieval-Catholic-Liberal-Agnostic self. And the explanation for why the plants look like they were genetically engineered in some High School lab by Botany students 1000 years into the future... not too convincing...
Those witches
*"written in the spirit of Hildegard von Bingen"*
You said it wasn't a cipher text quite a few times, how is it then--"in the spirit of"--a cipher text circa 12th cent. ??
47:00 I am very much in the camp of dissenters on his theory, this is just plain terrible... I mean, just my own glancing over 15th cent. documents/manuscripts I can already find modest comparisons... and they are all different than these... not sure where he got his work from!?!? 'r' for example is a pre-Arabican numeral '4' in Italy... but, lol... I guess it's 'r' cause it 'looks' like one...
54:00 all of these paintings are quite interesting, but where are they from exactly?? They appear woven not drawn! Also the stars are a DEAD match, but how significant is this in actuality?? Many places have their own styles, this doesn't mean they are necessarily connected by hand--only in style, very much in how The Beatles influenced modern rock & roll... but didn't make any of it@
Interesting. Makes sense
The book was written by a very good illustrator but totally deranged & obsessed with hunger, which word appears dozens of times (& even several times in just one line) in the book, in its slavic form: "голлода" - All the rest is gibberish
The repeated syllables in the beginning are obviously g - o - t - t , god.
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Thank you that was fascinating
Ancient Turkish language before the majority of European languages existed
The author distorted the words of his country that he used,or elongated the letters making them like fancy calligraphic letters. Or distorted letters of Latino language that he used ( maybe )making it looks like a tamil alphabet, nepal alphabet or fancy calligraphy letters.( or alphabet of his country
I think : It is a type of small enclyclopedia ,nothing interesting.nothing strange,
It is like the game : remove one matchstick to solve the equation ,same should do with letters.
Thanks for this excellent and well-researched video. It presents several intriguing points I hadn't encountered before. However, I disagree with your main conclusion. Connecting this manuscript to a person who lived two hundred years earlier seems like wishful thinking in my opinion. It would require a secret language and a complex set of instructions to be passed down across several generations, in hermetical secrecy, and leaving zero historical and archaeological footprint outside of this specific set of pages. Nothing exists in a cultural vacuum; even esoteric and forbidden knowledge is often referenced elsewhere or drawn from previous works. Other rare and mysterious languages appear in more than one inscription, and they often show the evolution of these scripts over time. This manuscript is a unique oddity with no parallels, precedents, or connections to any culture or language.
A healing manual would not typically feature absurd fictional plants, and the argument that any plant would work as long as the right astrological data is used falls apart when you see that the astrological pages are every bit as random and fantastical as the plants. The stars are depicted in decorative geometrical patterns that don't correspond to the orbits of any planets or match any constellations. Additionally, for a document allegedly composed by a monastic order, this manuscript is suspiciously devoid of religious imagery. Even non-Christian alchemists and scholars incorporated some Christian symbology and allegories into their work. The almost complete absence of Judeo-Christian elements in this manuscript is another red flag, suggesting that it was intentionally composed to appear as obscure and untraceable as possible.
I'm, of course, not an expert in languages or cryptography. I don't know if it was created as an unsolvable puzzle to prank potential deciphers or as a hoax to sell to a collector of rare tomes, but I don't believe this manuscript has ever had a meaning; it's purposely random. On this point, I agree with one of your conclusions: it can't be translated because there is nothing to translate there.
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The Voynich manuscript is a multi-dimensional language based on cubes and volume displacement. First you take the mirror image of each character or 'letter' and over lay it to make a complete symbol, then you turn that image 90° and over lay it, then 180° and over lay it and keep turning it and over laying it until you can create a three dimensional image inside a six sided cube. Then you calculate the volume displacement of the area left inside the cube that the three dimensional image of the symbol has left 'vacant' assign it a numerical value, then add the inverted total of the volume the character displaces and there is your true cipher. Now you can talk to God. It is also related to the very earliest phonetic version of language that became Turkish. You take this cipher and bring it all the way back down to binary so there can be no possibility of confusion, either it's on or its off, now take the phonetic language of the earliest form of Turkish, give it's characters a numerical value, bring those down to binary, repeat with earliest Egyptian, Hebrew, Chaldean, Assyrian, Sanskrit. Match the pattern in binary and then bring it back up. Don't forget the concept of zero didn't exist yet so you need to take into account the original numbering system of Europe that was based on 1-9. 11 dimensions. 9-11
Very creative! 😅 You forgot to mention, that the whole thing is just about to read verse ten (between nine and eleven), and that the rest of the V-MS is only decoration. 🍀🐛🌼🚺
@@Alexander_Rezner The reason for the illustrations is to make you think three dimensional instead of a 2 dimensional script.
Congratulations for your approach - basically "non-algorithmic". That's because you are also an artist, besides being a scientist. Art is not "algorithmic". Being an artist made all the difference.
Give me the book .. how can people with extrem bias decode this book? The looks to be repetitive flowers look strange also mermaids are on a lot of pages I seen
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Book is completely free go read it!!
I always felt that this manuscript was akin to A Book of shadows, Grimoire perhaps?
My two cents. When you consider when it was written and who could have written it also be added into consideration. If it was a man? When did the male population put in any effort to study or care about the women whom gave them birth? Life? A woman’s perception would have been to ignore, laugh or ostracized. Than to add nudity, another degradation of women. If it was by a man it would have only been for a man. If it was a female, author, then wouldn’t it have been something considered, only for a woman? And nudity to be evil? In both cases. Think of the time period.
Yes. Think of the time period. Who were the healers and midwives, especially in remote areas? Other women. Sometimes accused of being witches. Could the" language" have been invented to conceal the contents of the book, and known only to an initiated few, passed on to "apprentices.? Clearly the book was not meant for "mass marketing." It seems more a private compilation of knowledge.
Of course it was written by a woman (in my career I have gone through thousands of students' handwritten works, so I recognize a woman's writing). Possibly by one person, as your handwriting changes according to mood, tiredness etc. Many people believe in "speaking in tongues" - even today the Pentecostal churches have about 300 million members! And what they chant is utterly incomprehensible. There were also times when people believed their dreams would tell the "real truth". And as for "nobody would waste time so much time on a hoax" (though it is no "hoax"), look into the mirror. Why could a woman in the 15th century not write a "dreams journal"? Today's women can!
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being able to read it this is all conjecture
Scan the pages. Make a slide. Keep quiet. Review your point of view. What is the meaning of this manuscript? Does it make sense to you? It looks like a medical journal? Not a bad comment. Just an opinion. With respect, J.
Get to the point.
Dislike. He talks about himself, and himself, Then he taks about himself, and a little more about himself. BORING
Come on guys. This one is easy. 2 1/2 hits of double barrel purple microdot and this is exactly what you see, how you read and how you write.
If anyone wants to fund an experiment i would be happy to prove it. :)