Agreed man, im trying to grind for the pvp armor set cause it looks dope, but its annoying when people are teleporting around me, very rare do i find someone with a stable-ish net to fight.
@@connormeek12 You don't seem to have any idea how the connection are in this game. If you are the invader, you are connecting to a host. So if they are geographically far away from you, it's got nothing to do with how good their connection is, or bad, they have the offline host connection and you will suffer lag while they don't.
@@2inverse469the issue still stands, we need the multiplayer to be as smooth as possible. 3 out of 5 invasions i get “Disconnected from host” and the rest of the 2 invasions i have laggy opponents or teleport around the map
If the game wasnt player to player the pvp would be next level fun, but it's hella annoying when you face two people with pieta sword builds teleporting all over the place hitting you from both sides even blocking and parrying doesnt save ya :(
There's some egregious shit in this game. But when the fights go how these first two fights I've seen so far have gone, it's a good time. Magick and wiznerds r lame.
Caught this live, and these were fun as hell. Can't wait for the patches to. . . well; patch things up, but seeing good connections has me hyped to jump into PvP lol
@@vipertooth3933 what's funny is; with a proper connection you can tell that a lot of the projectiles are easily avoidable. . . but with a bad connection, you may as well be using the force to tell where to be in the next nanosecond to not be melted lol
@@pockystyx4087 There is no such thing as good and bad connections. Connections in this game is host based, so it's always based on how far away you are from the host. Doesn't matter if their internet is good, or bad.
@@2inverse469 that would explain why I've had some better PvP experiences so far, and some crummy co-op ones! lol I've got good fiber, and I'm not using wifi. While I can't imagine getting the online to be better is going to be the easiest fix in the world; I have put up with worse stuff. Rollback fighting games spoiled me for a while, but having also been a PvP enjoyer of souls-games since Demon's Souls. . . well; lets just say pain is an old friend.
I came to pay respect to Arise. The Warhammer Terminator build is excellent. you don't expect such damage. my first blind playthrough was in the same setup, only the hammer was colossal. Gorgeous duels
@@Jozai610 I don’t think this is something that’s necessarily a bad thing nor will it be fixed. It just allows more player to player interactions if we can PvP against each other at any level
@@4PumpsMaxthenigottagohome Who seriously wants to be limited to lower levels just because that’s what some community decides? People play NG+ and continue leveling. Why should we box ourselves in? I paid $80 for the game if I want to be OP I will be OP.
This game has been hella divisive, people either absolutely love this game or absolutely hate this game. Personally I think a lot of hate this game has gotten boils down to 2 things. 1- The lack of polish. This game is deffinitely a gem, but it is so rough and in need of a lot of polishing (Performance, QoL, Netcode, Balance) 2 - This game is a soulslike, but people are trying to play it as if it is just dark souls. It is very different. *Attacks have lengthy animations and a lot of commitment. Recovery animations doesn't have near instant dodge cancels *JUST mashing R1 and R2 is very bad in this game. You want to mix up your attack chains by mixing in other attacks or swapping hands (one hand then two hand). The benefit is you can use quicker attacks to stagger then use heavier attacks for actual damage. Kicking is also great for finishing a chain safely by pushing someone away/staggering them *Blocking/parrying is a lot more viable in this game, but you want to mix it inbetween dodges. Only blocking will accumulate too much grey-HP meaning you will loose all that health with a single hit. There are as many fair criticisms with this game as there are unfair criticisms with this game.
mmm when it works it looks super nice, great mechanics with the parrying or staggering, very cool, i rly hope the devs keep up with this game, lots of potential here fr
I love this game. It’s unfair how much negativity there is about it. The value for money is amazing. You get a huge game world, two in fact, multiplayer pvp and pve , the graphics are sick and the combat satisfying. Everyone says lies of p is better but all you get is a single player game.
One thing i cant seem to find an answer on is, how do you know how much posture YOU have left in pvp or do you just kinda hope each time you get parried your not posture broken?
Because of two love's,this duels looks kinda like in fighting game.When you need two win twice to ein set,but as i know it works only with host? Does it?
God I love that everything is powerful and viable, I hope there are no nerfs incoming before I play it. It looks it remind me of Demon's Souls PvP Untamed.
I love how viable the kick feels in this game. Built up a tone of wither on your opponent, but don’t think your weapon will be reliable enough to hit them? Throw out a random ass kick and do damage that way.
It doesnt make sense that the invaders posture meter is already at 1/4 of thr max when they come it. Hexworks needs to fix that ASAP since its an easy fix
@@IgnusValentinethey won’t be fixing it. Look up fighting cowboys recent interviews with the devs. They are happy with the state of pvp, the only thing they care about rn is fixing pc bugs. Shit the guy even said the no vestiges on ng+ will not be changing, there’s no hope
@@arkcantoscreampsnpc7274 They are happy with the state of PvP? Well time to quit this trash then. If this is all they are going to do about how crap the connections are.
I've got a lot of cos play toons in the work. Once I have my Lightreaper once through the game to test my theory's then I'll be doing a lot of multiplayer again. I cos play as the lightreaper, ruiner, and Bringer of Stillness though using despair boots on that one till I get the bone pants since the stillness outfits only 2 peices. I also have a toons using full despair welding 2 Fallen Lords Swords lol... Float like an umbral butterfly 😂
Game certainly looks interesting but is there a way to prevent the camera from looking straight down like that at a 90 degree angle when your lock on target gets too close? I'm just watching it and I can already tell that would annoy the fuck out of me if I were to buy this game.
Are you playing on PC Oro? If you are back up your saves because there's a bug with multiplayer where you can lose levels or gain them, the community thinks it's a scaling bug.
The pvp i know is meeting overleveled chars with endless elixir healing , spamming umbral or holy spells or crossbow. Doing maybe 10-50 dmg on hit to them. Thats the pvp i Know. Im glad i have the set and a few colors..
The only thing I dont see fair is you not being in Umbral for a fair duel. They gotta kill you twice for 9 hands, while you only need to kill them once.
Had a guy invade me right after the second lightreaper encounter in fitzroys canyon he spawned cast a holy aoe spell that 1 tapped me so it was at that point after dealing with all the previous bullshit then getting invaded for the first time in that playthru i Uninstalled and removed from my steam account and said ill go play lies of P again. 😂
It does look super fun actually.
If they improve the connectivity, performance and netcode the PvP will be a blast to play
Agreed man, im trying to grind for the pvp armor set cause it looks dope, but its annoying when people are teleporting around me, very rare do i find someone with a stable-ish net to fight.
@@connormeek12 You don't seem to have any idea how the connection are in this game. If you are the invader, you are connecting to a host. So if they are geographically far away from you, it's got nothing to do with how good their connection is, or bad, they have the offline host connection and you will suffer lag while they don't.
@@2inverse469the issue still stands, we need the multiplayer to be as smooth as possible. 3 out of 5 invasions i get “Disconnected from host” and the rest of the 2 invasions i have laggy opponents or teleport around the map
@@tarnishedshadow to be fair though most of those are people dodging the invasion by just exiting to main menu
PvP in this game is really fun... When it works.
"it just (doesnt) works!" -Todd Howard
If the game wasnt player to player the pvp would be next level fun, but it's hella annoying when you face two people with pieta sword builds teleporting all over the place hitting you from both sides even blocking and parrying doesnt save ya :(
There's some egregious shit in this game. But when the fights go how these first two fights I've seen so far have gone, it's a good time. Magick and wiznerds r lame.
The one time it worked.
On PC, go to settings and turn off crossplay (for now). This fixes the Disconnected issue when invading.
I love that you can buff special weapons in this game. Something I missed from ds2
Ds2 was amazing. Powerstance, the weapon buff you mentioned, heavy weapon actually feeling heavy etc
Caught this live, and these were fun as hell. Can't wait for the patches to. . . well; patch things up, but seeing good connections has me hyped to jump into PvP lol
Yeah, sometimes the connectivity is so bad that you just get stunlocked by projectiles
@@vipertooth3933 what's funny is; with a proper connection you can tell that a lot of the projectiles are easily avoidable. . . but with a bad connection, you may as well be using the force to tell where to be in the next nanosecond to not be melted lol
@@pockystyx4087 There is no such thing as good and bad connections. Connections in this game is host based, so it's always based on how far away you are from the host. Doesn't matter if their internet is good, or bad.
@@2inverse469 that would explain why I've had some better PvP experiences so far, and some crummy co-op ones! lol
I've got good fiber, and I'm not using wifi. While I can't imagine getting the online to be better is going to be the easiest fix in the world; I have put up with worse stuff. Rollback fighting games spoiled me for a while, but having also been a PvP enjoyer of souls-games since Demon's Souls. . . well; lets just say pain is an old friend.
That second duel was sick
Yo that was me, pyromancy is so fun in this game.
@@vipertooth3933Me when I lie:
The pvp has improved so much since the 1.5 update!! Hope to see more of these videos and more pvp in general 😁
This looks awesome to watch, just as cool as elden ring as a spectator.
1:15 that dude was dope... Oro thought he had this on the bag and quite frankly so did I., Dude even meme on you with the Lamp grab.. Well played sir
Was an Honor dueling you Oro! :D
GGs! 😁
I came to pay respect to Arise. The Warhammer Terminator build is excellent. you don't expect such damage. my first blind playthrough was in the same setup, only the hammer was colossal. Gorgeous duels
18:16 he has that eye that gives you hyperarmor and all damage taken as wither while charging heavies.
Ravager Gregorys Sword with holy weapon is Amazing, finishsd NG with that bad boy
Looking good Oro!
Thanks man 😎
Wow the pvp look sick bro
so we set the meta to 125? good stuff!
Should be lower . Try 80
It literally scales your level down regardless so it doesn’t matter
@@eligreg99 devs are on point with updates, hopefully this will be fixed
@@Jozai610 I don’t think this is something that’s necessarily a bad thing nor will it be fixed. It just allows more player to player interactions if we can PvP against each other at any level
@@4PumpsMaxthenigottagohome Who seriously wants to be limited to lower levels just because that’s what some community decides? People play NG+ and continue leveling. Why should we box ourselves in? I paid $80 for the game if I want to be OP I will be OP.
Lords are pretty good, i recommend this game to everyone
This game has been hella divisive, people either absolutely love this game or absolutely hate this game. Personally I think a lot of hate this game has gotten boils down to 2 things.
1- The lack of polish.
This game is deffinitely a gem, but it is so rough and in need of a lot of polishing (Performance, QoL, Netcode, Balance)
2 - This game is a soulslike, but people are trying to play it as if it is just dark souls. It is very different.
*Attacks have lengthy animations and a lot of commitment. Recovery animations doesn't have near instant dodge cancels
*JUST mashing R1 and R2 is very bad in this game. You want to mix up your attack chains by mixing in other attacks or swapping hands (one hand then two hand). The benefit is you can use quicker attacks to stagger then use heavier attacks for actual damage. Kicking is also great for finishing a chain safely by pushing someone away/staggering them
*Blocking/parrying is a lot more viable in this game, but you want to mix it inbetween dodges. Only blocking will accumulate too much grey-HP meaning you will loose all that health with a single hit.
There are as many fair criticisms with this game as there are unfair criticisms with this game.
What tink are you using on your armor
mmm when it works it looks super nice, great mechanics with the parrying or staggering, very cool, i rly hope the devs keep up with this game, lots of potential here fr
I’m surprised you got PvP to even work properly that being said this game is dope hoping a few patches should fix everything
He was the host, so his connections are basically offline.
@@2inverse469You can clearly see he isn’t the host in every duel lol
I love this game. It’s unfair how much negativity there is about it. The value for money is amazing. You get a huge game world, two in fact, multiplayer pvp and pve , the graphics are sick and the combat satisfying. Everyone says lies of p is better but all you get is a single player game.
Can you only do poke if you dash before?
One thing i cant seem to find an answer on is, how do you know how much posture YOU have left in pvp or do you just kinda hope each time you get parried your not posture broken?
You just hope and pray 🥲
Because of two love's,this duels looks kinda like in fighting game.When you need two win twice to ein set,but as i know it works only with host? Does it?
This game looks like it feels like it looks
God I love that everything is powerful and viable, I hope there are no nerfs incoming before I play it.
It looks it remind me of Demon's Souls PvP Untamed.
I see them guts builds haha dope
So is 125 the recommended lvl then for pvp?
What armor was Adyrs chosen wearing
I commend you for slogging through the online man, I just can't
In which platform are you playing?
What chest piece is that?
I love this game
Do you get alot of invade at 125 ? Im 92 and idk if i should lvl to 125
There's no level matchmaking in the game. Or either it's so wide that you can match with people 70+ levels under you.
I love how viable the kick feels in this game. Built up a tone of wither on your opponent, but don’t think your weapon will be reliable enough to hit them? Throw out a random ass kick and do damage that way.
Stats on build?
It doesnt make sense that the invaders posture meter is already at 1/4 of thr max when they come it. Hexworks needs to fix that ASAP since its an easy fix
Is it an easy fix?
Since they did it on purpose, yes. It's an easy fix.
@@IgnusValentinethey won’t be fixing it. Look up fighting cowboys recent interviews with the devs. They are happy with the state of pvp, the only thing they care about rn is fixing pc bugs. Shit the guy even said the no vestiges on ng+ will not be changing, there’s no hope
@arkcantoscreampsnpc7274 they've already changed the no vestige thing in latest steam patch. Looks like they changed mind quick
@@arkcantoscreampsnpc7274 They are happy with the state of PvP? Well time to quit this trash then. If this is all they are going to do about how crap the connections are.
I've got a lot of cos play toons in the work. Once I have my Lightreaper once through the game to test my theory's then I'll be doing a lot of multiplayer again. I cos play as the lightreaper, ruiner, and Bringer of Stillness though using despair boots on that one till I get the bone pants since the stillness outfits only 2 peices. I also have a toons using full despair welding 2 Fallen Lords Swords lol... Float like an umbral butterfly 😂
I dont get the hate for this game, im really enjoying
This pvp reminds me of dark souls 2. I hope it feels like it.
Show us where u go for pvp I can't find anything it's always lost connection
Tutorial tomorrow!
How do I get the chance to duel you oroboro?
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How the f was that 3weeks ago, played this week and connections were still super laggy never couldve parry like that lol
That guy at 7:40 looks like he was trying to use the special Pieta attacks
yeah that was me XD, for some reason the special attack wasnt working. Even though it was working when i tested it before the duel. No idea why
@@roodraiploem How strange. The game has a lot of bizarre issues when it comes to online.
They need a pvp arena. That way it doesn’t take a million years to get rewards for the covenants. Even if they give reduced amount for rewards
New sub here. Where can i catch the streams and get the password for the duels?
So is 125 the meta level?
Explosive crossbows are balanced
Game certainly looks interesting but is there a way to prevent the camera from looking straight down like that at a 90 degree angle when your lock on target gets too close? I'm just watching it and I can already tell that would annoy the fuck out of me if I were to buy this game.
Oro, why 125 lvl invasions? has it been determined by who? or the lvl is determined to represent the souls invasion lvl? thank you
What armor is that?
Crimson rector chest piece I believe
@@scottholmes6080correct! Just a different Tinct that I don’t have and don’t know what it is. Haha I want it!
Is 125 still the meta for pvp? Because I am 125 and can't get an invasion for the life of me.
I can’t wait till I get gud
Are you playing on PC Oro? If you are back up your saves because there's a bug with multiplayer where you can lose levels or gain them, the community thinks it's a scaling bug.
Only been invaded once was level 143 and the invader had to be 500 plus cause he 1 tapped me at full health with a single spell.
I respecced in someone else's world and it leveled me up close to 100 times.
@@Thiccness_Is_Deliciousspells are just broken, many of them one tap even at 125 vs 125
I'm on PC game corrupted 2 saves made it over lvl 100 twice I'm on my 3rd character but backing it up every time I get off basically
How are you consistancy getting invaded?
Pretty sure he is dueling with his twitch viewers so they are just using a password
Wish that they ranged stuff would get nerfed in pvp. These duels seem fun, but nowadays, I can't get anyone to duel
How the hell do you have so much vigor?!?
60 softcap + talisman/rings?
@iMaPound420 ye sorry, too much Elden Ring haha
Hello 👋 Soon pvp Guide ?
is there a way to invite people to your world as an invader or something? since your always in this spot.
Yes! I'm making a video about that now that should be up tomorrow 😁
nice, looking forward to it, always liked your pvp videos. thanks!
@@Oroboro
The pvp i know is meeting overleveled chars with endless elixir healing , spamming umbral or holy spells or crossbow. Doing maybe 10-50 dmg on hit to them. Thats the pvp i Know. Im glad i have the set and a few colors..
Hello, what exactly are the rules?
It's common courtesy to gesture before fighting and to not heal during the duel 🙂
pls do Guts cosplay PvP !!!!
The sound effects and animations seem so lacking, needs more to it.
is it possible to 1v1 a friend?
Tutorial tomorrow!
Wow the weapons look like they have no weight to them and the gestures are jank.
The only thing I dont see fair is you not being in Umbral for a fair duel. They gotta kill you twice for 9 hands, while you only need to kill them once.
The tripple-shot crossbow needs to be nerfed real bad.I got killed multiple times by this bullshit its not even fun to play against.
I’m just saying level does not matter at all
This... does not seem balanced...
looks bad vs elden ring
I don't know about this game. The sound design on weapons is so... weak.
I-frames only Works for the host, this game PvP is trash
Had a guy invade me right after the second lightreaper encounter in fitzroys canyon he spawned cast a holy aoe spell that 1 tapped me so it was at that point after dealing with all the previous bullshit then getting invaded for the first time in that playthru i Uninstalled and removed from my steam account and said ill go play lies of P again. 😂
this game looks so faking bad
i legit never saw and played a worse souls game