Sportbike Riders vs. Triumph Retros (are they worth it?)
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Three loony sportbike riders try three of the classic / retro motorcycles from the Triumph heritage range. The Triumph Bobber Black, Thruxton R and the Bonneville T120 and see how they compare to our Japanese supersport bikes.
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I'll sum up the 10 minute long video for you:
- Sportbike rides vs Triumph Retros (are they worth it)
- We aren't comfortable on the retros because we ride sportbikes
The End.
I actually own a 1989 K75 cafe racer, and I love it. But we are debating which bikes for us are worth it from the triumph range, since they are expensive. The Thruxton is for us.
So i Made a good decision looking for so good Nike with confortable drivig position..
Because i'm not so young now..!! Lol
I appreciate that you and your buddies tried bikes that were out of your style zone. From some the comments below I think care should be taken not to lump people and type of bikes together based on age, sex, etc.
I have seen very fast talented riders on low horsepower machines and seen very slow and marginal riders on high horsepower bikes. In my opinion the rider makes the bike regardless of age, weight or anything else. Bikes are not limited by age but rather your riding style makes one bike better than the other.
I agree, but this is our perspective of them as Japanese sportbike riders. 👍
But also if its candy Apple red it will actually make you a faster rider
I’m 56 & I’ve owned a BMW S1000RR, a BMW S1000R, several other modern bikes but NOTHING gets the attention as much as my 2011 Triumph Thruxton 900 in red! Young hipsters through to old gents in their 80’s who rode the true cafe racers back in their day...go figure! Whatever floats YOUR boat fella’s. That’s what riding is all about. Nice vid👍🏼😎
Awesome man!
I've had sport bikes, get a moto guzzi v9 bobber and suddenly everyone's interested, everyone's looking. Somethings are just more universally cool and that's retro bikes
Jeff Graham I almost bought one when they first launched here in Australia! I went to do the deal & the dealer was pathetic! Hence I bought the BM S1000R! A friend of mine has one & loves it. They still look beautiful so I’d never say never! Because of the BM’s obvious power output, with my older Thruxton, power isn’t an issue. It literally is my go to “nostalgic” bike.👍🏻😎
Hi I own a 15 plate Thruxton 900 but I'm really going to have a think whether I want a 1200 or go back to a sports. I really wanted some analysis on how a sports bikes differs to the Thruxton R. People just keep saying they're "different beasts". Is there anything else that can be said...?
@@nuruzzaman4893 From my perspective. I know how animal sports bikes are! Anyone who buys them does so because of the absolute adrenaline rush! I loved my BM S1000RR! But found apart from occasional track days, riding in general lost its fun for me. Also here in rural Victoria, Australia, our cops through legislation of zero tolerance over the speed limit, can come down pretty hard... IF they choose! Most are quite good being honest. Still I don’t want to be in that position! I just find my Thruxton makes me smile each time I ride it! Sure it doesn’t handle like a sports bike or go as hard but it’s unadulterated, pure riding...for me! If possible keep your Thruxton as well. It’s great to have choices!🤔💭😎👍🏻🇦🇺
Can't beat the sex appeal of the Bobber or the sleek lines of the Thruxton. They are truly ageless. Awesome bikes!
T-120 and Thruxton are cool but, I'll wait for the Speed Twin to arrive!
Speed twin will be like a lighter t120, which will definitely be a sweet change
Dona Mane Good decision , excellent bike in every way , I have a Harley and am now a old Fart and was thinking along the lines of buying the Speed Twin because they are a smaller lighter bike and better for my reduced level of strength and energy .
@@bruceburns1672 also a better made bike now days with top quality components, Harley has some catching up to do in my opinion but that's just mine.
Daniel Thompson I haven't had a close look as yet but I will in the future , but one can see the fit and finish now on the Trumpy's is superb , 11 years ago I was thinking about buying a Thruxton so I went along to a dealer , the fit and finish was still so poor compared to the Harley I didn't have to think twice , but since then Triumph has persisted and come out on top and no doubt would have to be showing it in increased sales .
Im perfectly content with my street twin.
The Thruxton is a fine bike. The Bobber is a cute experiment. The Bonneville T120 is arguably the best motorcycle ever made.
Try Ducati Panigale V4
The last bike i had was a fireblade back in 1994.
I've just bought a Thruxton 3 weeks ago and love it!
I don't need the performance any more. Been there, done that...
I suppose i'm now officially an old man now! 😁
Nah Thurston is awesome, great choice
Found a great deal on a Thruxton S right after my heart attack in April. 56 years riding and 60+ bikes owned and multiple ridden this bike is truly amazing BUT you have to be into bikes, not just speed or suspicion or comfort etc etc. you have to love bikes for what magnificent machines they are. My clubs here consist of the vintage/antique owner, rider ,builders and the modern supersports/ sport tourers but everyone has to look over the Thruxton when it shows up. I do love my MT09/07 , F800R and NC700X but again you have to love bikes to really "get" them as a design package. PS I do not miss speed cameras.
Totally agree
Notification squad where you at? Love the videos keep up the great work man and hope you and Gabby had a great Christmas
Thanks brother, you too!
3:42 Probably thought they were genuine Meriden bonnies - eye-sight is not what is was when you're getting on.
If an individual notices that a bike isn't handling well and you know the tyres are under inflated what should you do?
Ride faster?
I grew up with all these retro bikes in the 50s 60s 70s and we thought they were so cool! But now, 2019, I want a modern bike! I guess those who buys a retro today, are those who never had the chance to get one in their youth....Its like starting to offer T-fords and other retro cars ...Who the heck want them!
Question for James, how would you rate the Thruxton vs the MT10 ? Pros and cons of each ? also would you ever consider swapping the MT for the Thruxton ?
My answer for him: MT10 is more powerful and no 😂
To answer in more depth but with the same answer:
Bearing in mind that my MT has been modified quite extensively it isn't a fair stock to stock comparison.
I found the Thruxton to be abit to heavy and the tyres abit to narrow to be much use, That said with the engine and the throttle being so smooth making turns on it was very easy.
The MT10 is being moved to be more and more a track only bike it's what i'd stick with. The thruxton could be used on a track but its better suited for posing and flowing bends so I won't be changing ( plus I think it's way to expensive for what you get)
TheGrabTeam thanks for the detailed response, wanted to see what an MT10 owner thought of a Thruxton 👍
@@theincrediblesulk5543 You are Welcome.
I don't understand how the Scrambler 1200 is going to "blow away" all these other bikes. Maybe the T-120 and Bobber, but how will it compete with the Thruxtron R?
these clowns know nothing about triumphs ..
Got rid of a Speed Triple for the Thruxton R. Couple of trackdays, touring, hunting sportsbikes on my fav local roads. Plus it looks and now sounds stunning thanks to a decat and stubby cans.
Great bike man!
what are your thought on the Speed twin?
It's a different experience yeah? Have to change your mindset, for the bike and the road. Track day mentality versus hooligan day out, versus an enjoyable riding machine.
I ride and think completely different in my Speed Triple, versus when I'm going to work on my commuter bike, or when my wife let's me rip her 675R ;). But we go to get ice cream on our Z125s. Different Bike different task. Cheers lads.
Can I have you're life please hahah
Bobber black for me ☺️
Ofc
Great choice! Bobber black for me too.... based on the fact I have one!🤣🙈
@@Massondave fun bike!
DUKE BLADE yeah sure is, it’s my first bike, so extremely happy with it! Do you have any tips for me on starting up doing videos etc? Did you get my comment about subscribing to each other? Just trying to get a following going mate.
Cheers
if that bobber is your choice then @Gabriela Elena
where is your hubby DUKE supposed to sit when he wishes to roll with you?
Ride Safe Boss! Happy New Year!
you too mate!
Love that MT10! Need more light tho. Thruxton for me out of the three. What bike shop are you guys at?
Yeah it's a sweet bike! Destination triumph In West Sussex
I bought a T scrambler after much debate and considerations. Retros especially retro triumphs I like to compare to my Challenger R/T. They're slow, heavy, don't make a ton of sense economically, but they're still fun, comfortable, and they're pretty.
It's a style choice, not practicality or performance.
Totally agree, hope your scrambler and you have a long life 🤘
@@DUKEBLADE Same to you man! Appreciate the vids. Happy New Years!
Is it possible to buy a Trumpy that is made in England and not Thailand .
yes a lot of them are made in Hinkley, UK
In the 80's we had cheap old gs550's etc then by the mid 80's a gpz900 , different world , 90's street fighter gsxr, fzr , 2004 cruisers it's progression never dreamed I'd get one used to laugh at em , for me the original z900 is the most beautiful classic
They don’t really appeal to me. Maybe I’d own one as part of my fantasy fleet.
Same here
Swap my 848 evo for a thruxton r last jan love it but still miss the out right power of the ducati but it was only time till i got a ban on the 848
Huh? Did you guys answer the question - are they worth it? Maybe i missed it but you just picked your favourites from the retros.
Probably true- frankly it depends on what you like. For us, they are not worth it, as the bikes are expensive and don't cater to our style of riding. Still, fun to blat about on!
Which is your favourite classic bike?
Norton Commando, BMW/2
mine ! tbird 900
Ooooo that's destination Triumph in Washington, I bought my old Daytona from there, top blokes. I can't believe they still let me through the front door considering I've test ridden all of their bikes like twice each lmao.
Yeah they are decent
The Bonnie is a legend here in the States. Back when I owned a Hardly Runningson a friend that I rode with a lot had a Trumpet that he chopped out. My Harley kept breaking down, his Bonnie never died, it pissed a bit of oil here and there, but never died. Ever since those days, no more HD for me and I want a Trumpet so bad, one day perhaps. I noticed that the guy that was nice enough to stop and make sure y'all were ok, had some big ugly thing on top of his front fender but none of the bikes you guys were riding had that awful looking thing...what was that for? Happy New Year to you and Gabs.
Yeah older triumphs never break down! His triumph was very, very old. The thing on his front fender was a registration plate, which is the very old place of putting it! I think his bike was a model from the 60s. It sounded sweet!
@@DUKEBLADE Is that saying that newer Triumphs are not as good and have more issues? So, does that tag signify an old bike then? I mean, if I see one on a bike in a movie, for example, does it tell me straight away that it's sort of a collector's bike or something along those lines?
@@nonaubiz8939 it's just the old style of number plates that are only legal for bikes which were made in that era. New triumphs are reliable, but I guess new bikes are more complicated and therefore prone to more technical issues. I know a good amount of people that have had to have lots of warranted work on their new triumphs unfortunately
@@DUKEBLADE Thanks for the plate clarification. Yeah, technical stuff is based upon computer technology and has more issues in that regard. I miss old bikes that were simple, had kick start for back up, they had center stands that made it easy for lubing the chain, had carburetors that were pretty reliable...and in the unlikely event of a nuclear, above ground level, blast and the ensuing EMP that would likely stop other bikes, the carbureted bikes would still be able to be ridden. I've had a long and busy day, so I'll shut up now so I don't sound like some old bitty that hasn't had company in 5 years. LOL. Happy New Year to you and the Mrs.
Must have been the AMF days of HD. I have a 2009 Night Train without any issues, and I ride it constantly, except in winter, winters here are way too cold, -41 Celsius this morning.
Very nice bikes, I loved each bike...but are you guys try the news ST3 too...st3 have a great sound engine!
Cheers man! ST3 aka Ducati?
@@DUKEBLADE in brazil to many owners call yours ST3, this mean a Street triple from triumph
Great bike!
Doesn't the thrux have shows bpf up front and ohlins rear?
We were on the Thruxton R🤘fully adjustable showa bpf on the front and ohlins rear.
@@DUKEBLADE that's what I thought. You said ohlins front and rear in the video. I love the idea of the thruxton r. Do you think someone who prefers sportbikes could enjoy his time on a thruxton r?
DUKE BLADE I’ve got a gixxer 750 and I’m going test riding the Thruxton R tomorrow, hopefully it will live up to my expectations and I will buy it and I’m not ashamed to say I love everything about the bike up to now.
speedmaster 2018.
top!
"We ride hooligan bikes" ownes a standard....
Compared to these triumphs, yes. It was also a joke
The bobber is more bad ass than every sportbike imo.
That new rocket 3🤤🤤
I do like the look of cafe racers but not sure I would own one. Maybe if I was in my mid 40s and had a bit of a beer belly I would consider it.... I kid 😂
The Thruxton is decent tho, great bike
Buy a moto guzzi v7 anniversario and watch on as you're life becomes a channel no5 advert ;)
I’m in my mid 40’s. I have a bit of beer belly. I have a Thruxton. I’m happy. 😉
I was waiting to see you guys do Caroline on Christmas.
Nice to see happy riders with something to say. Also going at a more legal speed......
Very legal... 😂
I love the Bonneville bobber
It is a super looking bike!
So where's the sports bike?
We all own sportbikes...
pretty shaky film.
Yeah it's a vlog 😂
Very nice machines! Dont worry guys, one day you will graduate to cruiser and you will love it, cant beat
the comfort, keep a sporty around also if you can. Ride safe
I love cruisers. Big fan of the Yamaha Vmax 1200
@@DUKEBLADE the VMax is a beast! Ride safe.
Look at the gang at Whiteways Cafe!
ruclips.net/video/yvai90AO2v0/видео.html
(around 10:45 ish) Were you brainstorming the best Brexit deal possibilities??
Yes and yes obviously xD
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DUKE BLADE you should have a look at the new 650 twins launched by ROYAL ENFIELD if those are available in UK believe me you are sure to fall in love with them
The made in India Royal Enfields are no where near the quality of the Triumphs.
@@draganm7823 yeah that's true but unlike triumph royal Enfield does not ask its customers to break their bank to be able to afford a motorcycle for himself after all not everybody is as FILTHY RICH As you are 😯
Predictable outcome
Hey guys, great video! Bobber black for me, but to be fair all the bikes are nice! Iv just recently purchased a new bobber black and I’m away to make a start at doing some content on it along with some content on my Audi sq5, accompanied with some other DIY tutorials, I’d appreciate if you could give my Chanel a follow and I will do the same for you guys, all the best!
Dave
Old man's bike bloody sproges ,ankle biters hehehehehahaha
The all black bobber thing that i believe Hugo was on, ticks my boxes (on a side note, that mt10 is bloody gorgeous)
Bobber black looks awesome!
Bizarre comparison. Not sure of the point, really...
Comparing different bikes for styles of rider
Twins rule !!! I enjoy your bike video's so much so I've subscribed. Only one thing that's annoying you use too many Americanisms it's so cringie please stop doing it.. 😕
Thruxton every time.
Yup, great bike
AWWWW YEAAAAA
😂😎
Thruxton R
It's a great bike
retros are a joke with their anemic power
To each their own I think!
@@DUKEBLADE exactly. There are some 30 year old bikes that perform as well as a brand new sportsbikes or outperform them, so what, its not all about the hyper performance, its about the enjoyment of the ride. Love my Harley Night Train, still like my 1985 RZ 500 too. Ride safe.
jupiter22177 age n skill related just walk round any bike meet and check out the sports bike with an inch of tyre that's never seen Tarmac along with their knee sliders ditto , but it's the uk way and has been for years now
Nowt worse than bad ale an cheeky pups! Got summat to prove? Best get a sports bike.
Z1100 1981kawazaki shaft drive
One of my favorite I had one 10 years love it
Tomorrow 19 January of to red car then Scotland then Southampton then north Daventry all in an wk hehehe
Do know anyone that may have bits for this bike
Sad looking roads you'd only need a postie bike to ride them
Yeah it's not a fucking Mario kart track
..as always the speed limit hits you.. on any backroad.. no need for a R1..
Why bother guys. ??? Just really. WHY?????
Dumdum? 😂
Why not? Its the ride enjoyment,
not getting there a few seconds faster.
Bikers lol are you sure?
Fairly
There’s old bikers and there’s younger bikers, mate.
Love u and ur vids no homo
Kian Dunnachie he loves you too!
Cheers man!
‘New’ retro vintage bikes are shite. Get an old one, a welder and some knowledge.
I own an 89 K75 that I've rebuilt
DUKE BLADE yeah, I’ve got a cx500eurosport cafe. And funnily enough, I have just bought a k75c which I started on only yesterday!
@@andylaye6216 sounds fun man great bikes
DUKE BLADE yeah, more fun than off the shelf ‘retro’ bikes, mate. Always more satisfying riding something you know you’ve built and no one else has quite the same, don’t you think!
Terrible quality video.
thanks man!
First
Fast man!
Idk just felt like it
the so-called BOBBER is the ugliest interpretation of this word!!! who bless those engeneers??
it seems they steel all the ideers of a bobber ....and didn´t got it.
Like asking the queen to design on ....what a hox
clown arse wipes on wheels ..
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Whatever bike you want is worth it. Except harley davidson.
Camera too much to cope with , FAIL
Boo