you should change your intro to, hey i'm benj a prefessional video production machine. You put out videos here and always interesting and high quality. To TTartisan Lens : I 'don't want such a long thing on my Leica. 😄
Terriffic on digital, unbelievable on film! Adjusted the focus with the supplied tools and went shooting with my M's. Astounding! I hate to say this but this is the best 35 I've owned (in terms of performance exclusively); it's still a gargantuan atachment to any camera compared to the Summicron 35 (f/2) or the Color-Skopar 35 (f/2.5) that are not only extraordinary performers but also tiny. PS, I forgot the *_beautiful_* Ultron 35/2.0 which is even better.
@@reyrey5250 It's truly excellent; from 2.8 down I can't see any vignetting. Distortion is also nil. If you get specular lights in the frame it will flare, and much. It will depend on the picture if this works or not. It's certainly not a Summilux but for the price it's a steal! Compared to my old Summicron IV it's much (by orders of magnitude) sharper. The 'cron is bound to be more forgiving and give you a more pleasant image but if you like surgical sharpness this is it. Mechanically, it's unbeatable.
Great Video Benj, just recently subscribed 🤙. You mentioned they sent you the lens, would you say that you would invest in the lens? Im curious to see how it performs shooting video on the SL2
Benj; your reviews on these budget lens’ are much appreciated. I’m entering the Leica world finally and treating myself to an M10R. (Talked myself up to the R) However; Leica glass is not on the immediate horizon, and I’m ok with that after watching your TT 50mm-1.4 review. But I’ve always GAS’d for a Lux FLE 1.4 and this TT 35 sure checks that box hard. So maybe it’s the 50mm’s companion. Would you go for anything different if it’s a guys hold over lens? (I know the 7A 35 1.4 is sharper, but it looks so cheap and maybe the smaller Voit Nokton would be best, etc) Anyways, I get the green light from my wife and now I’ll all in a panic. I guess my question is what’s your “2-3 third party M mount lens kit? Please keep covering these cool affordable lens’.
Hi Benj, I have had this lens for a while now and have reviewed it. I can confirm that the lens hood is useless and is only for show. You can use a screw in vented hood which does help, although with this lens it will then expose the outer screw thread. Wish they would create a vented (or re-designed) square hood that would screw onto the original fitting. Love the videos man!
For sure! It’s better than not having one at all, but it almost feels like a way to hide the added length of the lens and add style ;) It would be nice if they included a thread cap or something in case you wanted to remove the hood. Thanks for watching, Nathan. I’ve watched some of your videos with these lenses as well. Good stuff!
@@benjhaisch Cheers Benj, yeah a thread cap would have been nice, they have added the notch to align the square hood so you cant even adapt a third party one either. Hope all is good and the pandemic hasn't effected your business too much?
Yeah, my primary source of income (weddings) totally tanked, but thankfully I have some other revenue streams and on the bright side, it’s given me time to focus on stuff like this channel (which isn’t really worth it financially at this point, but it’s fun and I’m hoping it could grow into something more serious in the future)
Video @ 4:46 "A very, very shallow lens hood" - To help as much as possible, I used a rubber lens 'cone' in order to remove the front name ring (Caution, this name ring HOLDS the entire front lens group in), then I reversed the ring and spray painted super flat black paint into it and the inside hood. Reattached the name ring (no more busy writing is seen because it's been reversed) and with the hood attached, I've insured ABSOLUTLY no reflections into the optical path; just pure black & glass...
Sure there is. I don't have access to the 3D printer file right now (out of town) but you can print a template to carve the 6 bit pattern with a dremel and then you just use a sharpie for the blacks and leave the wihite spots blank or use some typewriter corrector or white nail polish. It should appear as a Summicron 35/1.4 ASPH to the camera. Otherwise, you can choose it manually from the menu. I've got an M10 too.
Excellent review.. Is there any difference in the optical design of 7art lenses for Leica and for others (like Fuji, Sony) considering Leica mount lenses and priced higher than others..
@@benjhaisch My phone sends me Instagram/Clubhouse/RUclips notifications from you all the time! I respect it. I have been following back when Facebook was the only real social platform, and remember when you shot your first same-sex wedding. A lot of years of hustle and work from you.
Love your work, Benj. This seems to be more about the aesthetic than how it performs (except at full open). How did it stack up in other ways to your zeiss? Price?
Similar rendering outside of sharpness. Still performs better than many vintage Summilux 35s that I’ve tried. Price is $449 vs $2190 (I believe) so a massive jump.
Nice to hear your thoughts Benj. I wanted to ask how you got the peak design tabs through your m6. Im having a lot of trouble getting them through. Any advice would be appreciated :)
I was this close to buying for my Leica sl base on precious reviews it was said to be sharp wide open but now that you mentioned it’s not I think I will pass what a bummer Thanks for the review !
I seriously don't recommend that combination. I tried it and ended up returning the lens. The problem is the M8 requires IR cut filters and the TT artisans 21mm requires a huge adapter for filters which blocks almost half of the viewfinder on the M8.
Compared to the 50mm f1.4 TTArtisan,I think this one doesn't compare that much.I feel like while wide open is a little bit too fuzzy and smooth and even though the price is low I think it's still not worth it,in the other hand the 50mm (even though i am not a huge fan of this focal length) it felt like a budget leica option not just a cheap lens.
Would You Recommend Buying This Lens And Adapting It To A Fuji Camera Like The XE1 Is The Lens Worth Buying To Get This Leica Look By Using It On A Fuji Camera !!!!
hi there, i'm searching a budget 28 mm(m mount) for my leica sl2 that works with focus peaking and that can connect with the camera, do you have any advice? I've used to shoot with an m6 in hyperfocal or zone focused and i'll like to shoot like that also on the sl.
my favorite sub-$1000 28mm is the Voigtlander Ultron II, but if you're mainly shooting on the SL2 and don't mind a little extra weight, the 7Artisans 28/1.4 is a really nice option for about 1/2 the price and it goes to f/1.4 as well. I'm actually selling my copy if you're interested. Here is the 28 Ultron II: ruclips.net/video/pq7z9kcHWlM/видео.html Here is the 7Artisans 28: ruclips.net/video/HIdUUqjHbmE/видео.html
Enjoyed your review. I have a conundrum though. I have the Voightlander 35mm f2.5 Color Skopar, a nice tiny little lens. The focus works great on both my M6 and M240. I also bought the 7artisan 35mm F2. The calibration is spot on using the procedure that came with the lens. When the 7artisans is on the M240 everything works fine (I think - infinity is at infinity on the lens barrel). When I put the 7artisans on the M6 it does not focus to infinity. It stops a little short with the lens focus ring all the way to infinity. The photos seem sharp enough The M6 was very recently serviced by YYEcamera. So it should be good. I am tempted to calibrate the 7artisans so that infinity works properly on both cameras. None of my other lenses exhibit this behavior. your thoughts? Rich Bahl
Hey Rich, I’m not sure sorry! I’ve had those issues at times with different lenses as well they’ve always performed fine even if they look off at infinity.
they're actually very unique lenses from each other. the 7Artisans has a more vintage/swirly look but is sharper in the center. The TTArtisan has a more modern rendering and f/1.4 is ok, f/2 is good enough, and f/2.8+ is great.
@@benjhaisch thanks, I'm going to get a Leica M (most probably a used 240) after 40+ years of hobby photography - partly because of these new 'low budget' lenses seem to offer such a lot. Fast 28, 50 and 75 from 7Artisans and their two 35mm offerings seem great then TTartisan offering the 21mm and another 35mm and 50mm. Looks like I can get a bag full of decent options without breaking the bank. My thought is the 7Artisans 35mm might be the one because of the rendering. Cheers! 👍🏻
Don't know about the 50mm, but I had the 35mm summarit 2.4 and that lens is perfect😮 Sold it and bought a 35mm cron and I regret. The summarit is way, but WAY better than the summicron.
It's sad to see that because of sponsored and biased content creators, reviewers have to justify themselves about their honesty when they're reviewing a product. About the analytics, it's really misleading. I'll give you an exemple : I'm subscribed to a lot of RUclipsrs. When I watch on my phone I watch as a subscriber but when I watch on my PCs or Macs I'm never connected so I appear to be in those 80% not subscribed. Analytics cannot tell you the truth.
Totally, I feel like I always appreciate knowing where a reviewer actually stands with a product. Way too many paid and sponsored videos out there with total bias and even talking points given by a brand with no disclosure at all. Super frustrating. Figured if I had any affiliation, I’d always disclose whatever it is for the sake of ethic and bias.
The joy of having as many camera's as lenses to do the comparison :-)
Always fun to watch!
Thanks for this review. I've decided to go for this lens based on your assessment.
I appreciate you doing reviews on these lenses! Surprisingly, there aren’t as many on RUclips as you would think.
right?? that's why I really wanted to make these
The lens tab sits perfect on the M240. Sits perfect. Great video. I will check out the calibration video.
you should change your intro to, hey i'm benj
a prefessional video production machine. You put out videos here and always interesting and high quality. To TTartisan Lens : I 'don't want such a long thing on my Leica. 😄
😂 haha! Well thank you. I totally understand that. I’ve been more and more interested in lens size/weight/balance as well.
So my question is between the TT and the 7 artisan 35mm which you prefer overall? I hoped for this comparison but you didnt adress it.
TT is sharper and cheaper (price).
Oh shoot just saw this. The 7Artisans is actually sharper in my testing, but the TTArtisan has a more standard rendering.
Terriffic on digital, unbelievable on film! Adjusted the focus with the supplied tools and went shooting with my M's. Astounding! I hate to say this but this is the best 35 I've owned (in terms of performance exclusively); it's still a gargantuan atachment to any camera compared to the Summicron 35 (f/2) or the Color-Skopar 35 (f/2.5) that are not only extraordinary performers but also tiny.
PS, I forgot the *_beautiful_* Ultron 35/2.0 which is even better.
im happy to read this, just bought a silver one for my panda M6. Cant wait to try it out. How do you like the image quality?
@@reyrey5250 It's truly excellent; from 2.8 down I can't see any vignetting. Distortion is also nil. If you get specular lights in the frame it will flare, and much. It will depend on the picture if this works or not. It's certainly not a Summilux but for the price it's a steal! Compared to my old Summicron IV it's much (by orders of magnitude) sharper. The 'cron is bound to be more forgiving and give you a more pleasant image but if you like surgical sharpness this is it. Mechanically, it's unbeatable.
Just one more reason to stick with the Voigtländer fast 35s. My Nokton Classic has been crushing it for almost fifteen years now.
If it’s not broke, don’t fix it!
nothing comes close to the size of the nokton. by far my favourite m lens.
Benj I use the Fujifilm version of this lens and 50mm 1.2 on my X-Pro3 and I am very happy with it. It's solid and produces great images... Thanks
Great Video Benj, just recently subscribed 🤙. You mentioned they sent you the lens, would you say that you would invest in the lens? Im curious to see how it performs shooting video on the SL2
Benj; your reviews on these budget lens’ are much appreciated.
I’m entering the Leica world finally and treating myself to an M10R. (Talked myself up to the R)
However; Leica glass is not on the immediate horizon, and I’m ok with that after watching your TT 50mm-1.4 review.
But I’ve always GAS’d for a Lux FLE 1.4 and this TT 35 sure checks that box hard. So maybe it’s the 50mm’s companion.
Would you go for anything different if it’s a guys hold over lens? (I know the 7A 35 1.4 is sharper, but it looks so cheap and maybe the smaller Voit Nokton would be best, etc)
Anyways, I get the green light from my wife and now I’ll all in a panic.
I guess my question is what’s your “2-3 third party M mount lens kit?
Please keep covering these cool affordable lens’.
I was waiting for this video!
Hi Benj, I have had this lens for a while now and have reviewed it. I can confirm that the lens hood is useless and is only for show. You can use a screw in vented hood which does help, although with this lens it will then expose the outer screw thread. Wish they would create a vented (or re-designed) square hood that would screw onto the original fitting. Love the videos man!
For sure! It’s better than not having one at all, but it almost feels like a way to hide the added length of the lens and add style ;) It would be nice if they included a thread cap or something in case you wanted to remove the hood. Thanks for watching, Nathan. I’ve watched some of your videos with these lenses as well. Good stuff!
@@benjhaisch Cheers Benj, yeah a thread cap would have been nice, they have added the notch to align the square hood so you cant even adapt a third party one either. Hope all is good and the pandemic hasn't effected your business too much?
Yeah, my primary source of income (weddings) totally tanked, but thankfully I have some other revenue streams and on the bright side, it’s given me time to focus on stuff like this channel (which isn’t really worth it financially at this point, but it’s fun and I’m hoping it could grow into something more serious in the future)
@@benjhaisch This would be fantastic. Do you know the outer diameter of the threaded part?
WHere do you get those beautiful wide camera straps from?
This video made me buy one TTArtisans for the fuji x mount. I'm enjoying that lens
Man bought that 50mm APO Cron f/2 it’s amazing on my SL2-S! Love your work got to sell the Voightlander 35mm 1.2 now I’ll be a patreon soon!
Epic! Did you get the M or L Mount?
Even earlier Summicrons are amazing
Video @ 4:46 "A very, very shallow lens hood" - To help as much as possible, I used a rubber lens 'cone' in order to remove the front name ring (Caution, this name ring HOLDS the entire front lens group in), then I reversed the ring and spray painted super flat black paint into it and the inside hood. Reattached the name ring (no more busy writing is seen because it's been reversed) and with the hood attached, I've insured ABSOLUTLY no reflections into the optical path; just pure black & glass...
Excellent review, thanks Benj. How do you deal with the EXIF data for non-coded lenses? Is there any way to add the lens name in-camera in the M10?
Sure there is. I don't have access to the 3D printer file right now (out of town) but you can print a template to carve the 6 bit pattern with a dremel and then you just use a sharpie for the blacks and leave the wihite spots blank or use some typewriter corrector or white nail polish. It should appear as a Summicron 35/1.4 ASPH to the camera. Otherwise, you can choose it manually from the menu. I've got an M10 too.
Would you be able to calibrate it in a Fuji with an M adapter or would it not be cali rated due to the fact of the spacing of the adapter ?
Excellent review..
Is there any difference in the optical design of 7art lenses for Leica and for others (like Fuji, Sony) considering Leica mount lenses and priced higher than others..
ttartisan vs 7artisan 35 mm f1.4 at 1.4 what would you choose?
for sharpness and bokeh
Yeah they’re different in interesting ways.
7art is sharper and more vintage bokeh
Ttart is less sharp but more modern in the bokeh category imo
Your hustle is something else.
yo, thank you so much! I'm trying!
@@benjhaisch My phone sends me Instagram/Clubhouse/RUclips notifications from you all the time! I respect it. I have been following back when Facebook was the only real social platform, and remember when you shot your first same-sex wedding. A lot of years of hustle and work from you.
I had to return 2 lenses from TT as both had the same quality issue in the glass inside and ended up buying Voigtlander instead.
Hi Benj, how is the viewfinder blockage of the ttartisan vs the 7artisan 35mm f1.4 please?
Love your work, Benj. This seems to be more about the aesthetic than how it performs (except at full open). How did it stack up in other ways to your zeiss? Price?
Similar rendering outside of sharpness. Still performs better than many vintage Summilux 35s that I’ve tried. Price is $449 vs $2190 (I believe) so a massive jump.
Nice to hear your thoughts Benj. I wanted to ask how you got the peak design tabs through your m6. Im having a lot of trouble getting them through. Any advice would be appreciated :)
A lot of work an patience hahah
Does the Leica lens hood fit on the TT Artisan?
I was this close to buying for my Leica sl base on precious reviews it was said to be sharp wide open but now that you mentioned it’s not I think I will pass what a bummer
Thanks for the review !
There’s also the 7artisans which but I’m not a fan of the look of it too busy with all those red marking
I think it depends on your tolerance for sharpness. Mine is just very very high haha
Interesting video thank you. I'm seriously considering the TTArtisan 21mm f1.5 for use on the M8. I would love to hear your thoughts on that lens. 👍
I seriously don't recommend that combination. I tried it and ended up returning the lens. The problem is the M8 requires IR cut filters and the TT artisans 21mm requires a huge adapter for filters which blocks almost half of the viewfinder on the M8.
does the hood come with the lens or do you buy it separately?? 35mm TT hood is very nice
the hood came with it
Brother, why are Leica lenses special, and are there lenses similar to Leica?
Compared to the 50mm f1.4 TTArtisan,I think this one doesn't compare that much.I feel like while wide open is a little bit too fuzzy and smooth and even though the price is low I think it's still not worth it,in the other hand the 50mm (even though i am not a huge fan of this focal length) it felt like a budget leica option not just a cheap lens.
Would You Recommend Buying This Lens And Adapting It To A Fuji Camera Like The XE1
Is The Lens Worth Buying To Get This Leica Look By Using It On A Fuji Camera !!!!
Eh, I don’t think it really does that too much, but you can see the results on an X-E4
ruclips.net/video/o1ckTB9s23k/видео.html
@@benjhaisch thank you so much ...
hi there, i'm searching a budget 28 mm(m mount) for my leica sl2 that works with focus peaking and that can connect with the camera, do you have any advice? I've used to shoot with an m6 in hyperfocal or zone focused and i'll like to shoot like that also on the sl.
my favorite sub-$1000 28mm is the Voigtlander Ultron II, but if you're mainly shooting on the SL2 and don't mind a little extra weight, the 7Artisans 28/1.4 is a really nice option for about 1/2 the price and it goes to f/1.4 as well. I'm actually selling my copy if you're interested.
Here is the 28 Ultron II: ruclips.net/video/pq7z9kcHWlM/видео.html
Here is the 7Artisans 28: ruclips.net/video/HIdUUqjHbmE/видео.html
Ugh Guess that still means no good alternatives to the distagon....
Voigtlander 35mm f1.2 III, said by a ZEISS Distagon owner!
Wow how many Leica's do you have?
2 M10s for work (they’re my primary wedding photography camera) and an M6 for work/personal.
Enjoyed your review. I have a conundrum though. I have the Voightlander 35mm f2.5 Color Skopar, a nice tiny little lens. The focus works great on both my M6 and M240. I also bought the 7artisan 35mm F2. The calibration is spot on using the procedure that came with the lens. When the 7artisans is on the M240 everything works fine (I think - infinity is at infinity on the lens barrel).
When I put the 7artisans on the M6 it does not focus to infinity. It stops a little short with the lens focus ring all the way to infinity. The photos seem sharp enough The M6 was very recently serviced by YYEcamera. So it should be good. I am tempted to calibrate the 7artisans so that infinity works properly on both cameras. None of my other lenses exhibit this behavior.
your thoughts? Rich Bahl
Hey Rich, I’m not sure sorry! I’ve had those issues at times with different lenses as well they’ve always performed fine even if they look off at infinity.
So which f1.4? TTArtisan or 7Artisans?
they're actually very unique lenses from each other. the 7Artisans has a more vintage/swirly look but is sharper in the center. The TTArtisan has a more modern rendering and f/1.4 is ok, f/2 is good enough, and f/2.8+ is great.
@@benjhaisch thanks, I'm going to get a Leica M (most probably a used 240) after 40+ years of hobby photography - partly because of these new 'low budget' lenses seem to offer such a lot. Fast 28, 50 and 75 from 7Artisans and their two 35mm offerings seem great then TTartisan offering the 21mm and another 35mm and 50mm. Looks like I can get a bag full of decent options without breaking the bank. My thought is the 7Artisans 35mm might be the one because of the rendering. Cheers! 👍🏻
Hi Benj, have you ever tried the Summarit-M 50mm 2.4 or 2.5?
I haven’t, sorry! By all accounts the 2.4 versions are amazing across the board.
Don't know about the 50mm, but I had the 35mm summarit 2.4 and that lens is perfect😮 Sold it and bought a 35mm cron and I regret. The summarit is way, but WAY better than the summicron.
Wow, which version of the Summicron???
@@Nekojitablog Sounds awesome, I really like the small footprint of the Summarit too. I think the 50mm 2.4 or 2.5 will be my lens.
I always feel confused by the names, are TTartisan and 7artisan related?
I think they might be made in the same place but they are separate companies to my knowledge
Voigtlander 40mm 1.2.
Seems like a great lens. It’s exactly double the price though. So a hard comparison.
So much attention to how camera sits on a table... 😂
I’m here for the little things ;)
@@benjhaisch Ahaha 😁Me too 🤜🤛
It's sad to see that because of sponsored and biased content creators, reviewers have to justify themselves about their honesty when they're reviewing a product.
About the analytics, it's really misleading. I'll give you an exemple : I'm subscribed to a lot of RUclipsrs. When I watch on my phone I watch as a subscriber but when I watch on my PCs or Macs I'm never connected so I appear to be in those 80% not subscribed. Analytics cannot tell you the truth.
Totally, I feel like I always appreciate knowing where a reviewer actually stands with a product. Way too many paid and sponsored videos out there with total bias and even talking points given by a brand with no disclosure at all. Super frustrating. Figured if I had any affiliation, I’d always disclose whatever it is for the sake of ethic and bias.
@@benjhaisch I agree, it builds trust.
Beurk !
Disappointed that there's more blah-blah than image samples.
Ok :)
Hey @Benj - How did you like the lens flares on this one? I am partial to using flares with creative license in portraits.