As a field biologist I would love to have such portable equipment to use in the middle of the forest. There are some gadgets that cannot connect to a tablet or smartphone.
I think almost anything that connects to this would also connect to a windows tablet with a dongle. Granted built-in ports are amazing. Those 19Wh of battery capacity would be a pain even with a low power cpu and a small screen though .
I don't think it would suit for field work. The display isn't bright enough for outdoor daytime use. It has vents large enough for dust/dirt (and small insects) to become an issue. It would overheat (Lauri wasn't running a heavy load and was indoors and he showed how hot it was already getting). You'd also want longer battery life and/or replaceable battery in the field. There are ruggedized small laptops specifically made for field science that include lots of connectivity (including serial ports for older equipment). They cost more than this thing, but meet the needs of the field.
@@LelouchLamperouge235 actually not the device was multi tasking at the point of making videos and the battery will still hold at least 5 hours, imagine servicing routers on the go you wont use much batter for setting a router or flashing one , servicing traffic lights, servicing servers etc that device is not meant for intensive applications and if you really want to boost the performance well you can install a bigger cooler with a better fan y am also imagine that device installed in a car where it can be a media center maybe attach a LTE modem really what abot nitrogen cooled
@@LelouchLamperouge235Yes, a dongle, another thing to lose and potentially ruin your trip out to the middle of bucking NOWHERE and have to go all the way back home, and ounces make pounds. Native interfaces are always better when you're in the field, and the Gole is specifically designed to be a cheap field computer, way cheaper and lighter than the countless other botique produced field computers on the market.
THIS IS BRILLIANT I would use this in my car - makes it easy to code my own interfaces, I can have PC-based automotive software running. Bonus it could do all my media, dashcam, etc.
Someone in a photography group on Facebook recommended this thing a little while ago. Not for image editing or any other proper application, but for backing up files on the go. With all the I/O it has you can easily plug in multiple card readers and USB drives to make backups of your files through the Windows Explorer. If you are on a proper trip with the goal to take thousands of shots and videos then this is a great option to check all your files with a tiny PC without the need to take a laptop with you.
This is the exact use for this PC. It is difficult to back up files taken with SSD or HDD with tablets and smartphones. I'm also looking for this PC for this purpose!
@@rabidstudio It doesn't even matter if it's slow. Just let it copy the files as you take a shower at your hotel! :) Though if you take a laptop with you anyway, which is likely given how thin and light they have gotten, then it's not really worth it. If you plan to buy a laptop for example you could spend the money for a *better* laptop instead. But it's still a neat lil machine.
@@theTechNotice The GPD Win Mini 2024 exists. It's a much more powerful and reliable little Laptop. Much better performance & better battery life. The brand GPD is generally not super well-known, but they have a good reputation in the niche market they serve. Please look into it.
I've got a rather unique use case that I think this might be perfect for. I play keytar in rock bands. Originally, I just plugged into the MIDI input of a rack module, but a little over a decade ago I got my first tablet PC and started running VST plugins off that instead with a few USB pedals. It works great and I can travel light, but there's a little setup time in the beginning as I pull everything out of a bag and plug it all up just right. Lately I've been toying with the idea of putting together a pedalboard like a guitarist might use for effect pedals, but mine would hold all of my USB control pedals and a mini PC, but the problems I'm still figuring out is how to control the PC overall and what to do if the power gets unplugged. This thing has the built in touch screen which would be enough to load up my VST host software and pick the starting song, and the battery would keep the thing going so it doesn't have to reboot if it's unplugged for a bit. I'm sure it's not what it was designed for, but I might have to get one and try it out!
So. This makes me think of the possibilities for a DJ who uses a DJ controller and dj software. Using a tablet is just not an option yet for Rekordbox or Serato, so most people use a laptop, or get creative. I recently got a Rog ally and its pretty great for that flexibility. If the processor in those little PC's are strong enough it would be very convenient as a laptop replacement.
The GPD Win Mini 2024 exists. It's a much more powerful and reliable little Laptop. Much better performance & better battery life. The brand GPD is generally not super well-known, but they have a good reputation in the niche market they serve.
I purchased this computer, and the user I gave it to at work for mobile data collecting is loving it. The built-in battery without battery saving provides a whole 2 hrs of work time and 3 with battery saver and 4.5 with extreme battery saving.
considering the pricing, at this point is better to use some cheaper android tablet for that, with better battery life and probably better thermals considering its borderline melting with just running windows 11
If it has ARM processor and Windows ARM, it could easily last a whole day on battery and runs much cooler. But Windows ARM app support is still abysmal, so still a huge disappointment
I had this for a year, it is awesome. I strap it to my forearm and use it with a USB hard hat camera. MS teams on Android won't work with USB cameras but windows MS teams does.
I can see it being useful for industrial and IOT control purposes. But you'd probably want to throw Linux on it -- that N5095 will never not be bogged down by Windows. But their website makes no mention of such uses. Looking at the way they're marketing it, I don't think the manufacturer even knows what its purpose is! 🤣
I was thinking the same thing. I can use it on the IC PC's and get rid of that huge monitor I have to mount somewhere out of the way. It would also be good for running field diagnostic apps on. Be nice if it had more RAM.
nah in Linux you will have worse power savings install windows for embedded so you can customize what it should contain , y would nitrogen cooling that it will be silent an never throttle and if you are in to just get a heat gun and upgrade the cpu to a i5 intel has also xeons for embedded imagine a mobile server lol
I would use this as a replacement for my 2017 dell XPS 13 quad core laptop. One of my main use case scenarios is using my laptop as a virtual backing band for live gigs/music events. I've seen someone else on reddit comment that this Gole pro can handle running virtual guitar amp simulators. I imagine it would require some optimizations for windows but I would sure love to give it a...Gole? hah!
I would mainly connect this to my 3D Scanners to make them more portable and an all-in-one handle unit where I don't need to be wired to a large laptop. It would be perfect for that. I would also use it to connect to some 3D Printers, CNC Machines, and Laser Cutters. I do not run them next to or near my Main PC where I do all my work on the files for them. I have to usually transfer the files to them either directly or to another smaller weaker PC next to them. Only the devices that have a built in WiFi upload feature would not need this, but most of my older devices don't. I could think of a few other odd case ideas as well that require a small portable pc like this but I could go on for a while describing them. :P
Including a built-in battery is nice. This is very useful in places with frequent outages (if you don't have UPS backup). You get enough time to save your work.
Yep, i was needed to stick a mini pc inside of the cabinet of an older milling machine, for data transfer, and bolted a touchscreen on the controller side, just as big like this device. To run Heidenhain data transfer utility this little guy is even an overkill
Right? Especially tech-oriented people like this dude. Find the channel, think "finally, someone who doesn't just review the latest apple crap like everybody else" and here he is questioning the very products he reviews without realising the potential. I'm thinking the channel should rather be called "Tech Normie".
Could use it as a hub in a camper van. Connect it through usb to GPIO pins to control everything from lighting, heating, security, everything. Now I want one.
This could be super interesting as a Plex media server if it was hooked up to a DAS.. can you test how good it would be as a Plex server and how many concurrent 1080p streams it can do as well as concurrent 4K streams?
Awesome video bro! But I was dying when u were hovering the screwdriver and even unscrewing screws with the battery connected… man, always disconnect the battery first!
The GPD Win Mini 2024 exists. It's a much more powerful and reliable little Laptop. Much better performance & better battery life. The brand GPD is generally not super well-known, but they have a good reputation in the niche market they serve.
sometimes a laptop is too big for minimal revisions and easy adjustments on the go , and some office files get deformed or change fonts when edited on the phone.
This unit is a great jump box. I leave them onsite to be able to jump on systems. I have a wireless hotspot plugged in via USB, I have Wireless connected to LAN and Ethernet connected directly to Firewall On-Prem. This gives me access to everything with my remote access agent that I deploy to the unit. Best part is, I can leave it on the charger in the server cabinet and when I come on-site, I can walk around with their whole environment in my hands. I keep a foldable Bluetooth keyboard and trackpad in my tech back and plug the machine into their screens to present if I need to.
Man... You're amazing. What a review, sharing thoughts and questions. Thanks so much. Maybe is useful like a portable pc, but smallest than an usual notebook.
Would be good for someone like me who uses a lapdock with my phone. This, if it does USB-C altDp, could connect to the same lapdock and become a laptop as needed, without taking up space when not.
The GPD Win Mini 2024 exists. It's a much more powerful and reliable little Laptop. Much better performance & better battery life. The brand GPD is generally not super well-known, but they have a good reputation in the niche market they serve.
The GPD Win Mini 2024 exists. It's a much more powerful and reliable little Laptop. Much better performance & better battery life. The brand GPD is generally not super well-known, but they have a good reputation in the niche market they serve.
Depending on where these are bought from, they ship with a trojan or two, and also the "USB C" charger port on some variations of this require a specific power adapter, and simply reuse the USB C spec connector / plug but are not anyway compatible with a QC 3 charger, etc.
I got one a year ago for my portable DSP system. It behaves exactly as required, got Windows 11 ghost spectre on it, it is perfectly quiet, pretty fast, fanless. The only problem is that the battery does not last long and recharging generates a lot of heat. Hope they will fix it in next version. Very useful fully functional mini Pc, not weird at all Tech Notice.
If it was cheap enough it would be nice to take with a portable touch screen monitor and a Bluetooth game controller that clips onto the phone or whatever that is
I've seen some posts on Instagram of people using these for penetration testing, usually paired with a portable mini-keyboard. And the form factor isn't really that weird. Although not too common nowadays, UMPCs used to be a thing in the 2000s.
I tried the Gole2 and returned it. Kept the original Gole1 (J4125 at 15v). The Gole2 overheats and throttles CPU way too easily, even with the fans. Was not worth it for my application (low latency audio processing). Kinda frustrating but Im happy to say the original Gole works as expected and doesnt throttle.
I had it opened and it seems that heat management is not very well solved in it. I suggested the manufacturer to change design and use a double-bottomed metallic frame as heatsink, so only the back of it does not overheat crazily while recharging. Also I think that the charger module is not designed optimally and produces excessive heat. So far I have not received response.
@@bflmpsvz870 Yep! I didnt even get to the recharging point as I simply returned it after some cursory tests that showed throttling while in use (unacceptable for this kind of device). The Gole2 has fans but it still overheats. Definitely a flawed design. Hopefully they (or someone else) do something with ARM at some point. It would be much cooler and more powerful.
@@jasonzdora I really think its just the charging module as it gets really hot during charging cycle. That can be fixed I think by optimizing voltage drop on its input. Other than that, having a fully blooded compact Windows PC with human input output in your pocket, that gives a whole lot of options and applications. It works perfectly on my portable DSP with 24bit 48Khz fibre optic toslink output.
@@bflmpsvz870 I gotcha. Youre talking about the Gole2 internal power heat management and charging PSU being a problem. Im talking about their CPU getting throttled when I push the system with low latency audio processing. It wouldnt surprise me if they are related. The Gole1 didnt have throttling issues which is probably due to the smaller/slower CPU not creating as much heat. So even though its weaker its better because it doesnt randomly throttle itself. You know how much CPU you have to play with in the 1st gen GOLE and it doesnt suddenly throttle itself to cool the CPU, causing crackles and noise for low latency audio applications.
The GPD Win Mini 2024 exists. It's a much more powerful and reliable little Laptop. Much better performance & better battery life. The brand GPD is generally not super well-known, but they have a good reputation in the niche market they serve.
I would definitely use that with my ATEM mini in a livestreaming context out in the field. I would prefer something like this over a laptop (I hate laptops). I've already built a rig using a mac mini (running propresenter) but this windows box would also come in handy in my kit for a variety of reasons. However this unit isnot powerful enough. I will use a MinisForum MS-01 with external monitor instead. It will be nice when Windows 11 running on ARM becomes commonplace and there are enough apps supporting arm. Then perhaps a box like this with buil-in screen will become practical.
as somebody who works in warehouse and have to take orders old way(go to office and take printed paper)and than go have to go on other side of warehouse to take something i would love to have something like this! there is ton of blue collar jobs that would benefit! why are so many content creators disconnected from rest of the world?
I want this to finally achieve my goal of having a portable windows/DAW device with a 3d printed midi controller shell extension so I can use Studio One portably.
You are correct saying it has more connections than laptop. This frustrates me. Why are there so little connectivity for laptops today? It used to be we had entire docking stations, sometimes with PCI slots in them, but always with network, keyboard, monitor and mouse connectors. But now I'm supposed to be happy with at most two USB connectors and sometimes a network connector.
Do people have like, negative digits imagination? Mini PC's and clients are not only popular but kinda booming right now, and this fulfills the same niche while adding at minimum a touchscreen to work as a touchpad. HOW can this equate to not having a purpose? Marketplace options. Mango instead of peach. Or yeah, Thinkpad docking stations, those exist. Just slap a PC inside one and it works standalone with all these enhancements you'd get the dock for. MS opened up a program for these copypaste windows OS about a decade ago making it possible to just PUT a Windows in there with about the same effort as pirating it. So a bunch of commercial Chinese businesses did exactly that. Makes more sense than Gaben in his Elon Musk era wanting to influence the market with Steam Deck and 1/4 of sales of the Wii U. Its like asking why would anyone ride a horse when wagons exist, and you get to reinvent the wheel but it MUST. HAVE. WHEELS, for some crazy obsessive reason.
I just got mine today, yes it gets hot. The 12 volt charger port is pretty useless as it can charge from real USB-C port just fine. I was able to lead up some games, Raft being playable surprised me. Devices on USB 3 and C perform great, I had some things loading from an external NVme drive and it was quite fast and felt like cheating.
Little computers like these are used a ton in building automation or even in av and security. I think they are normally programmed with something other than windows and the company decided why not use windows to sell to public.
the only usage would be to trouble shoot iot devices that doesn't have monitor outputs like routers ,servers and such where you wont need to much performance for servicing traffic lights etc
I am about to use it for field work where usb sensors etc need to be plugged in. I have seen it be slated for retro gaming, but i use my phone for emulation, so you would be daft to even think of this pc for that! Its a very mobile windows pc with a number of inputs so its easier to make/find programs for and more flexible than your android phone and less to carry than a laptop. Its also pretty cool... well hot
Please check for each and every miniPC that has the type-c power plug - if it actually is a USB PD plug, or if it is just a DC 12V3A plug that just so happens to be in type-c form and therefore incompatible with everything else (ie frying your phone if you misuse this power adapter)
Seems like something that would be good as an on-field device that you don't want to have a keyboard and mouse for. Could be good for a Home Assistant thing since it's got it's own battery to keep itself up if there's a power outage. I think the thing that holds this device back is, as usual, Windows. Linux probably would be better for something like this.
It seems like it would interesting if you wanted to mount it inside a wall, similar to a recessed screen on a smart fridge for example. I feel like an android tablet would probably be a better option however, as most smart home apps, are just that and don't really have any functionality without installing a emulator like bluestacks, which honestly doesn't seem like it's worth it over similar lower power devices.
I had bought one and boy these get very hot (as hot as stoves) and cannot be held on hand. I used an external fan to keep it cool and also its very small and hard to do stuff on it. I ended-up selling it.
Would this PC be capable of running PC only illustration apps? Connecting to a digital pen display? It would be great being able to use a 16 inch pen display, with such a small PC... Could be a great travel pack! Haven't found a laptop with the screen size & pen that I love. ProArt studiobook 16 comes close but I don't like the angles!
It's like a NANOTE without a keyboard, but yes this would be handy. I'm doing pbotography, filming and more, this and NANOTE both fit into my milsurp pouches.
That's because your 8 core desktop doesn't have the specific chip built into it for TPM encryption. It has nothing to do with how powerful or weak your actual processor is.
Make one with a 10" HD or 4K screen and I'd buy the hell out of it. It'd be like a tablet with actual ports and a real OS. Heck, even how it is now, it's almost a perfect phone. It's just missing the actual phone parts (mic, well-placed speaker, modem). I'd much rather have a chonky phone like this than yet another paper-thin toy. The one thing that really makes me wince is the battery right above the CPU. That's a lot of heat.
I use a regular mini-PC ; actually way overkill, but a 6900hx, IIRC. Wife got used to it pretty quick. With a wireless keyboard and mouse. I think a mini-pc like this would not need the screen, thus overkill. One could do better with a N100; with better cooling and not thermal throttling . The wife has 8 cores and 16 threads; so it's not slow doing anything.
Make it a few inches smaller and Ill buy this right away. I move my Pc around to different rooms all the time. This would be a real boon. I was thinking about getting a handheld pc like those Aya Neo for a while, but it's still just a bit too big for my taste.
hmm for me that pc will be good a home assistant and security center monitor or host with screan example display notyficationd or wiew from security system leaving on wall and when needed you can plugin kvm console lie uperfect or normaly monitor keybard and mouse
looks interesting, but not for me. i would love having such product, but it definitely gets too hot. considering i'd be maxing that celeron all time, i'll have to deal with constant thermal throttle. rather stay with my touch laptop.
I would use this... I've been looking for a good review of this device ever since it was released last November 2023. I am very interested since encountering the HiGole 1 Pro but held off from buying it because of known super heating issues. I needed the review to check if the HiGole 2 Pro was able to address the heating issue... seems not so much. Use case for me is when I am on site and needed a small form factor just like a 5" phone to check on things in parallel with on site work.
I dunno if it's fair to review this thing straight out of the box without having installed the windows updates. I don't know if I've ever bought a new computer and tried to do anything with it until waiting a couple hours for windows to become happy.
It is not as expensive as I thought it would be for what it is and according to the listing it supports Linux. I just can't think of a viable use case for it personally. I have Windows tablets that are more powerful and with a couple of dongles they have more connectivity than this and a larger screen. I think owning this would be more of a personal preference for me than anything else.
You say it's slow, but for a thing that is that much lighter and smaller from even any laptop... It's amazing how fast it is. Of course it could work blazing fast if not full blown OS, but I guess the point of this thing is access to the Windows software and device drivers. When everything is installed and its job is to do reatively simple things, I guess it delivers. It's definitely not a regular tablet.
The GPD Win Mini 2024 exists. It's a much more powerful and reliable little Laptop. Much better performance & better battery life. The brand GPD is generally not super well-known, but they have a good reputation in the niche market they serve.
I’d rather get a ROG Ally with the Z1 for $399. Just as useful as a desktop PC with a better processor and GPU. Having built in controllers doesn’t make it much less portable than this.
Looks like a very well made product. I travel by air a lot and lugging a laptop or a tablet around isn't much fun because I try to travel as light as possible using just a backpack for all my possessions. This device easily fits into a cargo pocket and with its touchscreen I don't even need to carry a mini keyboard.
@@theTechNotice I'd use it for coding and testing with Visual Studio. I'd also do some light gaming such as Half-Life 2 and Return to Wolfenstein. It's also useful for web surfing and doing my other work in MS Office.
@@theTechNotice The GPD Win Mini 2024 exists. It's a much more powerful and reliable little Laptop. Much better performance & better battery life. The brand GPD is generally not super well-known, but they have a good reputation in the niche market they serve.
Weirdly, that seems like a PC for me. My current on the go tool PC is a crappy nettop with removable screen. Basically a tablet with one full sized USB port. I would like more ports. And a bit smaller form factor. The added performance is a plus, but not meaningful. Don't need four cores on the things i use it for.
Troubleshooting things, SSH, reading error codes, programming EEPROMs. Using gadgets that don't like android. A small box of interface tools and this thing would be able to do so very much. And weight far less than a full blown laptop. I may be too deep into integrating a tiny pc into my box of adapters though. With a 7 inch screen. Not pocketable though so would not make this redundant. I will need to think about this.
Put powerful chip in there (amd 7940 HS), more powerful battery (like 70Whr) , then may be remove the screen .. you got yourself a powerful (much more than a laptop) mini PC that is as portable as a laptop with extra portable monitor and Bluetooth mini-keyboard/mouse
Interesting.. I'm starting to use a single 'command and control' computer that I use to dive into different machines (rdp/vnc/vm/container), currently I'm using a SteamDeck to do that cos I can lob it in a bag and have my compute platform go with me with a minimum of fuss and space. Could be this is a very simple answer to the pc swiss army knife.
...yeah I know, definition of a 'cyber-deck', but just like SteamPunk isn't just taking an old watch apart and gluing the gears to something, for me the concept of a cyberdeck is a functional digital tool you refine and carry with you, constantly evolving as the usecase does, I'm wary of saying cyberdeck cos suddenly it 'needs' to be in a pelicase with RGB with a bluetooth keyboard hotglued to the case.
As a field biologist I would love to have such portable equipment to use in the middle of the forest. There are some gadgets that cannot connect to a tablet or smartphone.
I think almost anything that connects to this would also connect to a windows tablet with a dongle. Granted built-in ports are amazing. Those 19Wh of battery capacity would be a pain even with a low power cpu and a small screen though .
I don't think it would suit for field work.
The display isn't bright enough for outdoor daytime use. It has vents large enough for dust/dirt (and small insects) to become an issue. It would overheat (Lauri wasn't running a heavy load and was indoors and he showed how hot it was already getting). You'd also want longer battery life and/or replaceable battery in the field.
There are ruggedized small laptops specifically made for field science that include lots of connectivity (including serial ports for older equipment). They cost more than this thing, but meet the needs of the field.
If you look up Minisforum has a Windows Tablet. The tablet also works as a standalone screen too.
@@LelouchLamperouge235 actually not the device was multi tasking at the point of making videos and the battery will still hold at least 5 hours, imagine servicing routers on the go you wont use much batter for setting a router or flashing one , servicing traffic lights, servicing servers etc that device is not meant for intensive applications and if you really want to boost the performance well you can install a bigger cooler with a better fan y am also imagine that device installed in a car where it can be a media center maybe attach a LTE modem really what abot nitrogen cooled
@@LelouchLamperouge235Yes, a dongle, another thing to lose and potentially ruin your trip out to the middle of bucking NOWHERE and have to go all the way back home, and ounces make pounds. Native interfaces are always better when you're in the field, and the Gole is specifically designed to be a cheap field computer, way cheaper and lighter than the countless other botique produced field computers on the market.
THIS IS BRILLIANT I would use this in my car - makes it easy to code my own interfaces, I can have PC-based automotive software running. Bonus it could do all my media, dashcam, etc.
That's actually a really good idea.
We need a video walk through of how to set that up
Someone in a photography group on Facebook recommended this thing a little while ago.
Not for image editing or any other proper application, but for backing up files on the go. With all the I/O it has you can easily plug in multiple card readers and USB drives to make backups of your files through the Windows Explorer. If you are on a proper trip with the goal to take thousands of shots and videos then this is a great option to check all your files with a tiny PC without the need to take a laptop with you.
This is the exact use for this PC. It is difficult to back up files taken with SSD or HDD with tablets and smartphones. I'm also looking for this PC for this purpose!
@@rabidstudio It doesn't even matter if it's slow. Just let it copy the files as you take a shower at your hotel! :)
Though if you take a laptop with you anyway, which is likely given how thin and light they have gotten, then it's not really worth it. If you plan to buy a laptop for example you could spend the money for a *better* laptop instead.
But it's still a neat lil machine.
I saw the thumbnail and was immediately like "I want it..." I have no idea what I'd do with it other than play doom, just for the lols.
Haha
@@theTechNotice The GPD Win Mini 2024 exists. It's a much more powerful and reliable little Laptop. Much better performance & better battery life. The brand GPD is generally not super well-known, but they have a good reputation in the niche market they serve. Please look into it.
I want it to install Android x86 on it.
I've got it and it's okay but it should be a pen support I've bought already pen for windiws ink and surface too but no one diesnt want work
Thats why i use remote desktop chrome to use my nite 20 ultra as semi portable tablet
I've got a rather unique use case that I think this might be perfect for. I play keytar in rock bands. Originally, I just plugged into the MIDI input of a rack module, but a little over a decade ago I got my first tablet PC and started running VST plugins off that instead with a few USB pedals. It works great and I can travel light, but there's a little setup time in the beginning as I pull everything out of a bag and plug it all up just right. Lately I've been toying with the idea of putting together a pedalboard like a guitarist might use for effect pedals, but mine would hold all of my USB control pedals and a mini PC, but the problems I'm still figuring out is how to control the PC overall and what to do if the power gets unplugged. This thing has the built in touch screen which would be enough to load up my VST host software and pick the starting song, and the battery would keep the thing going so it doesn't have to reboot if it's unplugged for a bit. I'm sure it's not what it was designed for, but I might have to get one and try it out!
Yes. Genius! I totally agree. Same idea but for my electric drums. Could mount this thing on the frame very easily and run all the audio through it.
Same idea here, i want to replace my Roland Gr-55 with vst plugins
Still figuring out if process power is enough
So. This makes me think of the possibilities for a DJ who uses a DJ controller and dj software. Using a tablet is just not an option yet for Rekordbox or Serato, so most people use a laptop, or get creative. I recently got a Rog ally and its pretty great for that flexibility. If the processor in those little PC's are strong enough it would be very convenient as a laptop replacement.
The GPD Win Mini 2024 exists. It's a much more powerful and reliable little Laptop. Much better performance & better battery life. The brand GPD is generally not super well-known, but they have a good reputation in the niche market they serve.
@@SexManNordin this is what ive been gearing towards win mini n minisforum ms 1 for a compact media center
I purchased this computer, and the user I gave it to at work for mobile data collecting is loving it. The built-in battery without battery saving provides a whole 2 hrs of work time and 3 with battery saver and 4.5 with extreme battery saving.
considering the pricing, at this point is better to use some cheaper android tablet for that, with better battery life and probably better thermals considering its borderline melting with just running windows 11
@@mementocityAbsolutely! A tablet would be better, but, for the industrial application, this unit is actually not bad at all.
If it has ARM processor and Windows ARM, it could easily last a whole day on battery and runs much cooler. But Windows ARM app support is still abysmal, so still a huge disappointment
I have one as well
@@ThePsycomacIf You're interested, check out the Dell 7202, or newer industrial Windows tablets
I had this for a year, it is awesome.
I strap it to my forearm and use it with a USB hard hat camera.
MS teams on Android won't work with USB cameras but windows MS teams does.
I can see it being useful for industrial and IOT control purposes. But you'd probably want to throw Linux on it -- that N5095 will never not be bogged down by Windows.
But their website makes no mention of such uses. Looking at the way they're marketing it, I don't think the manufacturer even knows what its purpose is! 🤣
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I was thinking the same thing. I can use it on the IC PC's and get rid of that huge monitor I have to mount somewhere out of the way.
It would also be good for running field diagnostic apps on. Be nice if it had more RAM.
Exactly my toughs
nah in Linux you will have worse power savings install windows for embedded so you can customize what it should contain , y would nitrogen cooling that it will be silent an never throttle and if you are in to just get a heat gun and upgrade the cpu to a i5 intel has also xeons for embedded imagine a mobile server lol
thats what i was thinking. stick linux on it instead
Nice. This would be a pretty decent on mount solution for Astrophotography where the end user wants a screen but does not want to use a laptop.
Yes..
I would use this as a replacement for my 2017 dell XPS 13 quad core laptop. One of my main use case scenarios is using my laptop as a virtual backing band for live gigs/music events. I've seen someone else on reddit comment that this Gole pro can handle running virtual guitar amp simulators. I imagine it would require some optimizations for windows but I would sure love to give it a...Gole? hah!
I would mainly connect this to my 3D Scanners to make them more portable and an all-in-one handle unit where I don't need to be wired to a large laptop. It would be perfect for that.
I would also use it to connect to some 3D Printers, CNC Machines, and Laser Cutters. I do not run them next to or near my Main PC where I do all my work on the files for them. I have to usually transfer the files to them either directly or to another smaller weaker PC next to them. Only the devices that have a built in WiFi upload feature would not need this, but most of my older devices don't.
I could think of a few other odd case ideas as well that require a small portable pc like this but I could go on for a while describing them. :P
That screen could make it useful for a hifi audio streamer
Exactly. I use it as a part of portable DSP with Equalizer APO installed on it.
Use it as a mini pc for your car to control your entertainment
Including a built-in battery is nice. This is very useful in places with frequent outages (if you don't have UPS backup). You get enough time to save your work.
I don’t understand why people like RUclips creators don’t immediately understand why millions of us want form factors like this
Yep, i was needed to stick a mini pc inside of the cabinet of an older milling machine, for data transfer, and bolted a touchscreen on the controller side, just as big like this device. To run Heidenhain data transfer utility this little guy is even an overkill
Right? Especially tech-oriented people like this dude. Find the channel, think "finally, someone who doesn't just review the latest apple crap like everybody else" and here he is questioning the very products he reviews without realising the potential. I'm thinking the channel should rather be called "Tech Normie".
Because not everyone are nerds, or geeks.
I can see something like this being useful for network technicians.
Could use it as a hub in a camper van. Connect it through usb to GPIO pins to control everything from lighting, heating, security, everything.
Now I want one.
Pi might be better suited for that.
This could be super interesting as a Plex media server if it was hooked up to a DAS.. can you test how good it would be as a Plex server and how many concurrent 1080p streams it can do as well as concurrent 4K streams?
It would be fine until someone has a device that won't do Direct Play, at which point the Plex transcoder process would pummel that little CPU
Awesome video bro! But I was dying when u were hovering the screwdriver and even unscrewing screws with the battery connected… man, always disconnect the battery first!
The GPD Win Mini 2024 exists. It's a much more powerful and reliable little Laptop. Much better performance & better battery life. The brand GPD is generally not super well-known, but they have a good reputation in the niche market they serve.
sometimes a laptop is too big for minimal revisions and easy adjustments on the go , and some office files get deformed or change fonts when edited on the phone.
This unit is a great jump box. I leave them onsite to be able to jump on systems. I have a wireless hotspot plugged in via USB, I have Wireless connected to LAN and Ethernet connected directly to Firewall On-Prem. This gives me access to everything with my remote access agent that I deploy to the unit. Best part is, I can leave it on the charger in the server cabinet and when I come on-site, I can walk around with their whole environment in my hands. I keep a foldable Bluetooth keyboard and trackpad in my tech back and plug the machine into their screens to present if I need to.
perfect car screen
Man... You're amazing. What a review, sharing thoughts and questions.
Thanks so much. Maybe is useful like a portable pc, but smallest than an usual notebook.
I've seen stuff like this used for conference room management, lights, projector microphones, cameras etc.
Would be useful to add as drones on my NDI network.
Would be good for someone like me who uses a lapdock with my phone. This, if it does USB-C altDp, could connect to the same lapdock and become a laptop as needed, without taking up space when not.
The GPD Win Mini 2024 exists. It's a much more powerful and reliable little Laptop. Much better performance & better battery life. The brand GPD is generally not super well-known, but they have a good reputation in the niche market they serve.
reminds me of the old school OQO and OQO 2 units i used to daily lol they did have a build in keyboard though
The GPD Win Mini 2024 exists. It's a much more powerful and reliable little Laptop. Much better performance & better battery life. The brand GPD is generally not super well-known, but they have a good reputation in the niche market they serve.
@@SexManNordin agreed, GPD is great for this form factor, I only mentioned oqo because this thing was so squarely shaped and running hot etc
Pipo makes computers like these, and other form factors, especially for POS, or 3D printing, and milling.
Depending on where these are bought from, they ship with a trojan or two, and also the "USB C" charger port on some variations of this require a specific power adapter, and simply reuse the USB C spec connector / plug but are not anyway compatible with a QC 3 charger, etc.
I could see some very interesting uses cases for this PC.
I got one a year ago for my portable DSP system. It behaves exactly as required, got Windows 11 ghost spectre on it, it is perfectly quiet, pretty fast, fanless. The only problem is that the battery does not last long and recharging generates a lot of heat. Hope they will fix it in next version. Very useful fully functional mini Pc, not weird at all Tech Notice.
If it was cheap enough it would be nice to take with a portable touch screen monitor and a Bluetooth game controller that clips onto the phone or whatever that is
Looks good for home automation, mounted on the wall.
I loved the original Gole1: dual boot Android and Windows (10) mini pc/tablet.
Could be good for Pen Testers with Kali Linux running on it.
I've seen some posts on Instagram of people using these for penetration testing, usually paired with a portable mini-keyboard. And the form factor isn't really that weird. Although not too common nowadays, UMPCs used to be a thing in the 2000s.
I tried the Gole2 and returned it. Kept the original Gole1 (J4125 at 15v).
The Gole2 overheats and throttles CPU way too easily, even with the fans. Was not worth it for my application (low latency audio processing). Kinda frustrating but Im happy to say the original Gole works as expected and doesnt throttle.
I had it opened and it seems that heat management is not very well solved in it. I suggested the manufacturer to change design and use a double-bottomed metallic frame as heatsink, so only the back of it does not overheat crazily while recharging. Also I think that the charger module is not designed optimally and produces excessive heat. So far I have not received response.
@@bflmpsvz870 Yep! I didnt even get to the recharging point as I simply returned it after some cursory tests that showed throttling while in use (unacceptable for this kind of device).
The Gole2 has fans but it still overheats. Definitely a flawed design. Hopefully they (or someone else) do something with ARM at some point. It would be much cooler and more powerful.
@@jasonzdora I really think its just the charging module as it gets really hot during charging cycle. That can be fixed I think by optimizing voltage drop on its input. Other than that, having a fully blooded compact Windows PC with human input output in your pocket, that gives a whole lot of options and applications. It works perfectly on my portable DSP with 24bit 48Khz fibre optic toslink output.
@@bflmpsvz870 I gotcha. Youre talking about the Gole2 internal power heat management and charging PSU being a problem. Im talking about their CPU getting throttled when I push the system with low latency audio processing. It wouldnt surprise me if they are related.
The Gole1 didnt have throttling issues which is probably due to the smaller/slower CPU not creating as much heat. So even though its weaker its better because it doesnt randomly throttle itself. You know how much CPU you have to play with in the 1st gen GOLE and it doesnt suddenly throttle itself to cool the CPU, causing crackles and noise for low latency audio applications.
Shocked that there arent variants with Intel's newer N95, n100, n200, n300 or n305 CPUs. Hopefully there will be in the future.
Those newer Intel CPUs would increase the cost significantly.
I have one with an N200 from the company Higole on aliexpress actually
With ARM based windows laptops, I think we will see some interesting form factors in near future. Excited.
Would be interesting if it had a decent enough CPU.
Yeah..!
Yeah if we could get a little N97 in there I'd be so down.
GPD Win Mini 2024
Celeron should go the way of the dodo bird lol
It runs standard apps on windows 11 ghost spectre pretty swiftly
Might be great to hand it on the front of your PC case for menial tasks that will noit hold back your main pc
The GPD Win Mini 2024 exists. It's a much more powerful and reliable little Laptop. Much better performance & better battery life. The brand GPD is generally not super well-known, but they have a good reputation in the niche market they serve.
I would definitely use that with my ATEM mini in a livestreaming context out in the field. I would prefer something like this over a laptop (I hate laptops). I've already built a rig using a mac mini (running propresenter) but this windows box would also come in handy in my kit for a variety of reasons. However this unit isnot powerful enough. I will use a MinisForum MS-01 with external monitor instead. It will be nice when Windows 11 running on ARM becomes commonplace and there are enough apps supporting arm. Then perhaps a box like this with buil-in screen will become practical.
Yo the music in here is fire
as somebody who works in warehouse and have to take orders old way(go to office and take printed paper)and than go have to go on other side of warehouse to take something i would love to have something like this! there is ton of blue collar jobs that would benefit! why are so many content creators disconnected from rest of the world?
For field use with camera's and so on, as streaming device connected to my audio interface, as guitar rig etc...
My dad has one and exclusively uses it for Powerpoint presentations. The only gripe we have with it is that it gets really hot sometimes.
I want this to finally achieve my goal of having a portable windows/DAW device with a 3d printed midi controller shell extension so I can use Studio One portably.
I have a tiny MeLE hooked to my bedroom tv to stream stuff from my NAS that I don't want going through my Apple TV. This might be a good alternative.
would be nice for connecting 3d printers and sending marlin gcode commands
It's smaller than a laptop, and it has more connections. May be useful for someone
But who.....?
You are correct saying it has more connections than laptop. This frustrates me. Why are there so little connectivity for laptops today? It used to be we had entire docking stations, sometimes with PCI slots in them, but always with network, keyboard, monitor and mouse connectors. But now I'm supposed to be happy with at most two USB connectors and sometimes a network connector.
Camera man on the go. @@theTechNotice
Do people have like, negative digits imagination? Mini PC's and clients are not only popular but kinda booming right now, and this fulfills the same niche while adding at minimum a touchscreen to work as a touchpad. HOW can this equate to not having a purpose? Marketplace options. Mango instead of peach.
Or yeah, Thinkpad docking stations, those exist. Just slap a PC inside one and it works standalone with all these enhancements you'd get the dock for. MS opened up a program for these copypaste windows OS about a decade ago making it possible to just PUT a Windows in there with about the same effort as pirating it. So a bunch of commercial Chinese businesses did exactly that.
Makes more sense than Gaben in his Elon Musk era wanting to influence the market with Steam Deck and 1/4 of sales of the Wii U. Its like asking why would anyone ride a horse when wagons exist, and you get to reinvent the wheel but it MUST. HAVE. WHEELS, for some crazy obsessive reason.
Very very similar to a Kickstarter I backed...... Fell through, took everyone money and now these are showing up
I am a truck driver and a lot of companies use them for an elogs to monitor the drivers driving times.
Had the Gole 1. Was a nifty little tool, albeit with limited resources.
I just got mine today, yes it gets hot. The 12 volt charger port is pretty useless as it can charge from real USB-C port just fine. I was able to lead up some games, Raft being playable surprised me. Devices on USB 3 and C perform great, I had some things loading from an external NVme drive and it was quite fast and felt like cheating.
I mainly use this mini pc for videos on the go
Little computers like these are used a ton in building automation or even in av and security. I think they are normally programmed with something other than windows and the company decided why not use windows to sell to public.
the only usage would be to trouble shoot iot devices that doesn't have monitor outputs like routers ,servers and such where you wont need to much performance for servicing traffic lights etc
I am about to use it for field work where usb sensors etc need to be plugged in. I have seen it be slated for retro gaming, but i use my phone for emulation, so you would be daft to even think of this pc for that! Its a very mobile windows pc with a number of inputs so its easier to make/find programs for and more flexible than your android phone and less to carry than a laptop. Its also pretty cool... well hot
Please check for each and every miniPC that has the type-c power plug - if it actually is a USB PD plug, or if it is just a DC 12V3A plug that just so happens to be in type-c form and therefore incompatible with everything else (ie frying your phone if you misuse this power adapter)
This would make for a decent little replacement for the crappy Android tablet I have kicking around right now that I'm using for a media player
Seems like something that would be good as an on-field device that you don't want to have a keyboard and mouse for. Could be good for a Home Assistant thing since it's got it's own battery to keep itself up if there's a power outage. I think the thing that holds this device back is, as usual, Windows. Linux probably would be better for something like this.
It seems like it would interesting if you wanted to mount it inside a wall, similar to a recessed screen on a smart fridge for example. I feel like an android tablet would probably be a better option however, as most smart home apps, are just that and don't really have any functionality without installing a emulator like bluestacks, which honestly doesn't seem like it's worth it over similar lower power devices.
I had bought one and boy these get very hot (as hot as stoves) and cannot be held on hand. I used an external fan to keep it cool and also its very small and hard to do stuff on it. I ended-up selling it.
I actually really like the design
I had the first one of these but did not use it a lot, it came with Android and windows. Fun on the road that was it.
Would this PC be capable of running PC only illustration apps? Connecting to a digital pen display? It would be great being able to use a 16 inch pen display, with such a small PC... Could be a great travel pack! Haven't found a laptop with the screen size & pen that I love. ProArt studiobook 16 comes close but I don't like the angles!
This is amapiano song on intro 😂
I wanna use it as an emulation station, that you can hook up to the tv, or take on the go.
It's like a NANOTE without a keyboard, but yes this would be handy. I'm doing pbotography, filming and more, this and NANOTE both fit into my milsurp pouches.
I'd make my own magnetic game controllers on each side and make it an amazing portable game player...
Love how my 8 core desktop PC that blows this away on every level on paper isn't eligible for Windows 11 and yet THIS...
That's because your 8 core desktop doesn't have the specific chip built into it for TPM encryption. It has nothing to do with how powerful or weak your actual processor is.
Small plex server, network analyzer (portable), this could have hundreds of uses...the only thing I'm not fond of is the processor choice.
Make one with a 10" HD or 4K screen and I'd buy the hell out of it. It'd be like a tablet with actual ports and a real OS.
Heck, even how it is now, it's almost a perfect phone. It's just missing the actual phone parts (mic, well-placed speaker, modem). I'd much rather have a chonky phone like this than yet another paper-thin toy.
The one thing that really makes me wince is the battery right above the CPU. That's a lot of heat.
The iBrick pro 🤣🤣🤣. Where did you find this?
No way your theme song is amapiano😜. Name of the song please
Streaming box for older not so smart TV?
I use a regular mini-PC ; actually way overkill, but a 6900hx, IIRC. Wife got used to it pretty quick. With a wireless keyboard and mouse.
I think a mini-pc like this would not need the screen, thus overkill. One could do better with a N100; with better cooling and not thermal throttling . The wife has 8 cores and 16 threads; so it's not slow doing anything.
Make it a few inches smaller and Ill buy this right away. I move my Pc around to different rooms all the time. This would be a real boon.
I was thinking about getting a handheld pc like those Aya Neo for a while, but it's still just a bit too big for my taste.
hmm for me that pc will be good a home assistant and security center monitor or host with screan example display notyficationd or wiew from security system leaving on wall and when needed you can plugin kvm console lie uperfect or normaly monitor keybard and mouse
Im thinking of msking a retro handheld pc from this
looks interesting, but not for me. i would love having such product, but it definitely gets too hot. considering i'd be maxing that celeron all time, i'll have to deal with constant thermal throttle. rather stay with my touch laptop.
Pretty good minecraft server with built in battery backup.
I would use this...
I've been looking for a good review of this device ever since it was released last November 2023.
I am very interested since encountering the HiGole 1 Pro but held off from buying it because of known super heating issues. I needed the review to check if the HiGole 2 Pro was able to address the heating issue... seems not so much.
Use case for me is when I am on site and needed a small form factor just like a 5" phone to check on things in parallel with on site work.
I dunno if it's fair to review this thing straight out of the box without having installed the windows updates. I don't know if I've ever bought a new computer and tried to do anything with it until waiting a couple hours for windows to become happy.
It is not as expensive as I thought it would be for what it is and according to the listing it supports Linux. I just can't think of a viable use case for it personally. I have Windows tablets that are more powerful and with a couple of dongles they have more connectivity than this and a larger screen. I think owning this would be more of a personal preference for me than anything else.
You say it's slow, but for a thing that is that much lighter and smaller from even any laptop... It's amazing how fast it is. Of course it could work blazing fast if not full blown OS, but I guess the point of this thing is access to the Windows software and device drivers. When everything is installed and its job is to do reatively simple things, I guess it delivers. It's definitely not a regular tablet.
He does not know it runs pretty fast with Windows 11 ghost spectre. Like any average laptop.
This badass has more ports than a darn laptop.
The GPD Win Mini 2024 exists. It's a much more powerful and reliable little Laptop. Much better performance & better battery life. The brand GPD is generally not super well-known, but they have a good reputation in the niche market they serve.
I’d rather get a ROG Ally with the Z1 for $399. Just as useful as a desktop PC with a better processor and GPU. Having built in controllers doesn’t make it much less portable than this.
Use it to connect to a laser cutter without taking up too much space 😄
Looks like a very well made product. I travel by air a lot and lugging a laptop or a tablet around isn't much fun because I try to travel as light as possible using just a backpack for all my possessions. This device easily fits into a cargo pocket and with its touchscreen I don't even need to carry a mini keyboard.
How would you use it?
@@theTechNotice I'd use it for coding and testing with Visual Studio. I'd also do some light gaming such as Half-Life 2 and Return to Wolfenstein. It's also useful for web surfing and doing my other work in MS Office.
@@theTechNotice The GPD Win Mini 2024 exists. It's a much more powerful and reliable little Laptop. Much better performance & better battery life. The brand GPD is generally not super well-known, but they have a good reputation in the niche market they serve.
Weirdly, that seems like a PC for me. My current on the go tool PC is a crappy nettop with removable screen. Basically a tablet with one full sized USB port. I would like more ports. And a bit smaller form factor. The added performance is a plus, but not meaningful. Don't need four cores on the things i use it for.
Troubleshooting things, SSH, reading error codes, programming EEPROMs. Using gadgets that don't like android. A small box of interface tools and this thing would be able to do so very much. And weight far less than a full blown laptop.
I may be too deep into integrating a tiny pc into my box of adapters though. With a 7 inch screen. Not pocketable though so would not make this redundant. I will need to think about this.
Theres another of the same mode, the Higole F9B with N100 cpu
new version
Use like a control touch panel maybe, and need to connect on USB or another port for control something.
I love this it would make coding easier , I wouldn't have to be tied to my Laptop as much how long is the battery life
That is really cool! The question would be to compare this with a Surface Pro 3 or higher.
I think if you threw Tiny11 on it it might be performing better. I think I'll get it one day.
I need that so bad.
Put powerful chip in there (amd 7940 HS), more powerful battery (like 70Whr) , then may be remove the screen .. you got yourself a powerful (much more than a laptop) mini PC that is as portable as a laptop with extra portable monitor and Bluetooth mini-keyboard/mouse
Could be a good controller for a CNC Router.
I bought one to run an offline LLM, but the chip it has wont run LLMs :(
Interesting.. I'm starting to use a single 'command and control' computer that I use to dive into different machines (rdp/vnc/vm/container), currently I'm using a SteamDeck to do that cos I can lob it in a bag and have my compute platform go with me with a minimum of fuss and space. Could be this is a very simple answer to the pc swiss army knife.
...yeah I know, definition of a 'cyber-deck', but just like SteamPunk isn't just taking an old watch apart and gluing the gears to something, for me the concept of a cyberdeck is a functional digital tool you refine and carry with you, constantly evolving as the usecase does, I'm wary of saying cyberdeck cos suddenly it 'needs' to be in a pelicase with RGB with a bluetooth keyboard hotglued to the case.