DJI Spark RC Hack BUSTED!!!!!!
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2017
- A lot of people in forums are talking about this "hack". WetalkUAV is going to prove if it is true or not!
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One other thing I have noticed is the phone battery discharges rapidly when connected with a cable to the remote. Not sure but maybe the remote views the phone as a source of charging when connected by the cable.
This cable connection is not a "hack"...it's a bypass...😉
Staf VH is partially correct, but It's not even a bypass, really. Clearly, if DJI had not intended that to work, nothing we try could have made it so. DJI caused that image feed to be replicated on the USB port, perhaps in keeping with the Mavic approach, or perhaps for another reason. But the point is that DJI does provide the feed there. Adding to that, like it or not, wired connection will always, always, always trump wireless from a strength and stability standpoint. As long as DJI continues to provide that alternate feed I will favor it. So will anyone else who wants the best possible connection.
Mees Dees Self-promoting links in response to these posts are barely ethical. And since there has been no price change, your post is doubly misleading. Joy.
Yes but why have it with the mavic and yet keep it away from the Spark? They wanted the hands free little selfie drone to be as it is just that and not something we can get over 3 miles with that little drone..I say they are making it obsolete for us users that we have to go back to downgrading the firmware..
Everything is a hack these days. Pouring OJ in a glass via a funnel is a hack not to spill.
I don't think anyone ever claimed the wired connection was 'better'. But, with the cable, you never get connection issues. Remember, when you use WiFi, you have two connections (one from the Controller to the Spark and one from the Controller to your Phone). I believe a lot of people were having issues with the latter
One issue that isn't covered here is competing signals. I live in a city and when I fly around here there are a lot of competing signals. WiFis, electrical, microwave and so on. I have found that the more dense the area with signals the more issues you can have with keeping connections while flying. So far I have found the USB connection to solve this issue. Please do a follow up video with these parameters. good job on the video.
Hi Alex, In my situation there is a huge difference. The hack is about the connection between the RC and your phone. It does not affect the connection between the drone and the RC so, no difference in range etc. In my situation the wife connection between RC and phone is constantly disrupted. And there comes the cable.. The connection does not fall away when there is the ‘hack’ And thus a much better flying experience. I have been flying in heavily crowded wife areas. I can see from the blog that you have been flying in a more remote area. I’m sure the wife connection will be better there.
Great vlog :-)
.....wife connection with what...hmm..how??
..........in heavily crowded wife areas.....hmmm
Not Wife its "WiFI"
I think I tried to type wifi... ;-)
Paul Suijkerbuijk no worries, it's cute
It's actually faster when your on to go using the cable instead of the Wi-Fi there's actually a big difference.The video quality is much smoother using the cable is that of the Wi-Fi... I had a phantom 3-4 and a inspire one and also a mavic pro now the spark combo all experiences with my drones I know the total differences when I'm flying the spark using the cable than the Wi-Fi and using the Active track is actually better in the cable...I also try the Wi-Fi I totally see the difference...don't make me make a video and show you the difference again
It's not really a big difference it connects faster thats about all
Interesting test!
Great video but my results were far different. With usb connection much better connection without all the signal drop out and I was seeing about a 10% improvement in range. Not having latency issues but constant signal lost notifications when not tethered.
yes I also seen that video..true
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DJI improved the RC to iPhone wifi signal since the July 21 update. I tried it extensively in a trip to Oregon and had No dropouts! I did turned off Bluetooth on the phone. Smooth image no freezing of video on screen.
Unless I missed it, was the wifi on the phone turned off before the cable was connected? My results were totally different with my iPhone 6 and the cable. My spark was pretty much un-flyable with the delay in the FPV on the iPhone. There is a specific order that the cable must be connected for it to work correctly.
I think one big advantage of the cable is that the phone battery lasts longer since it is not using wifi and bc it is being charged by the RC.
Well, I still can see a good reason to use the cable connection instead of Wi-Fi: having more battery time available in my cellphone.
Good video.
I got the controller combo and it came with a cable. The manual says to conect the controller to the phone that way. I tried without the cable and beacouse i leave in a high Wi-Fi interference zone the cable helps a lot
First of all, I would expect the latency to change as the distance increases. Second of all, 100 MS is a significant delay. Not like it is likely to make you crash, but if you move the sticks to the left you will notice the delay.
You have to fly it in conditions where the phone controller connection has problems, like interference, being in a busy city, etc and try the difference.
Is there a difference, when using the cable, in battery consumption of the phone?
Could be in airplane mode then.
btw. any iPhone cable to recommend?
The live video lag is bad when I use it without the otg cable. With the cable, I get no lag no matter how far I get.
FYI the reason its best to use cable only and turn off wifi on phone is simply to reduce interference because the controller also uses the same 2.4/5.8 ghz to control the drone, the actual performance difference will vary depending on many factors but in most cases it wont make much difference, however its still a better practice. There is also a possibility that there is less lag on a cable connection, however i have not looked into that.
Hi. Nice test. I do have a question for you as a relates to the frequency of control. Did you try the spark in both 5.8 G and 2.4 G? I will bet if you have it in 2.4 G mode that the cable connection makes much more of a difference because then there will be no Wi-Fi Interference between the devices. You’re correct definitely if you kept the spark in 5.8.
Good job on your test! I always think that a wire is better than no wire. I don't have a wire and never had any signal problems. That little cable looked short, what about that, is it short? Thanks, Cheers!
when you did the otg test on distance did you use the 2.4 ghz o get more range out of the spark . Because that really works for me . I get up to 500m more out of the 2.4 ghz compared with the 5.8 ghz
All I know is that before I started using the OTG to lighting cable for my iPhone I was get a ton of drop out while flying but once I started using the cable the video dropouts stopped. So in my experience this cable made the spark usable a all ranges that I have used it.
Yes it not as much for latency and connection. When i use my Android the signal dropped right from of me every 2 minutes. with the cable no issues. I like the growth of your page from the mavic prop cage to this...
what is the latency over distance??
The OTG Cable is to help prevent leg and disconnection not how far the drone can fly.
OTG cable has nothing to do with the range of the drone. It's just a better connection between the remote and the phone. I hope they come out with a screen so that you won't have to use your phone all the time.
Sorry my friend, but you put your foot I your mouth this time with the BUSTED. LOL. btw I love your videos. all the reasons started below are absolutely true as well for me. I fly in the decent city of Philadelphia where I am aloud to fly yet there are tons of interference. this is where the cable truly stands out as a absolute necessary connection. would not fly any other way.
MICHAEL
DiciurcioCabinets MDiciurcio me too what part of philly do you fly im in the northeast near levick and tacony area
JUNE PC TECH I fly in south Philly. btw I Freakin hate it. Lol. THERE couldn't be a WORSE area to fly in. Lol. I'm between airports, heliports, hospitals, schools, and about ten blocks from all the Philadelphia stadiums, lol. no joke, pretty much every nfz zone you can think of. Ugh. really sucks.
Same here Phil. I fly in my city. I have power cables, cell towers, people's wifi routers. There is a shit ton on things that can cause interference.
Aloud? Really? Roflmao... try "allowed". Another indictment of the NE educational system. Then again, our potus can't even spell Marine Corps (Core for him). Same with there, their and they're... here and hear...etc. I have hell trying to understand posts with such spelling sometimes. Otherwise, great points though. 🖖
My video connection is almost non existent without the cable connection. Helps if you turn Bluetooth off but still not 100%
You've stuck your head above the parapet with that one :^)
it works like a charm. if you try it in wifi polluted area, you will see the difference very clearly :D i was receiving very laggy image with wifi, but when i connect the cable, there were no lag at all. it depends on wifi signal pollution.
you forget 1 thing, the distance, the moredistance the drone fly away.. the more latency it got.
Well for me I get a lot of videos transmission issues even drop outs to where I can't see what the spark is seeing, when I use wifi instead of the OTG cable. So I only use OTG cable setup to fly now. So maybe this something that DJI can fix in the next update? Also I am using my iPhone 7plus with the controller.
its more about using the cable to stop video glitches and video lag which has nothing to do with latency - lag is image mili second freeze, frame roll and interference from other wifi units.. where are you getting your facts :P
I find a connection between the controller and the phone to be more stable when it's hardwired and using a wire is always better than wireless. Having two wireless connections between two different devices sharing the same data and frequency band will always cause a decrease in performance. Have you ever try using Wi-Fi in a residential neighborhood and tje performance sucks so bad because there's 50 other people hogging the Wi-Fi channels making your home network perform poorly?
only thing I see as a benefit of using the OTG cable is better battery life for your phone or device as you can turn off wifi.
My results are very different. In a field near my home, 50 meters and you cannot get good video connection. The feed from the Spark drops out and lags/freezes. With the OTG cable AND WiFi of the phone turned OFF, it can go 400 feet up and a football field away and the video feed is perfect.
Hola el mejor video que he visto en Internet sobre spark y OTG felicidades por cierto tengo un problema con mi Spark yo también lo tengo conectado por OTG pero con OTG y sin OTG mi alcance máximo son 300 metros me hace vuelta a casa solo sabrías decirme a qué es debido gracias espero noticias tuyas
The OTG cable works and it takes your device's WiFi out of the system. That alone is enough of a reason to do it. I can connect my tablet to the controller by cable and use the WiFi in the tablet to connect to a WiFi hotspot created by my phone so I can get live maps on my tablet.
It is just clickbait to call this a hack or to claim that you have busted it. Use the OTG cable. If you forget to take it you can still work via WiFi and it is almost as good and almost as stable.
perhaps it makes more of a difference in built up areas that are more subject to wifi interference? or some crappy android phones?
have to ad the arie you are in as well. doesn't look like you got to much interference on top of that hill/mountain. saying busted is wrong imo😉
Cable latency is 160 ms; not 170 ms. WiFi latency is 270 ms. Based on numbers alone, the cable is 60% faster than WiFi.
Hard wired is Also best when downloading files from spark to your phone. Got several failed downloads when downloading files wireless..
This is a well-designed test, and thank you for doing it. The benefit of the cable would be if you could use it to bypass the wifi connection step. But based on your video, in order to use the cable, you still need to connect to wifi first, correct? If that is the case, then the cable hack really isn't worth it, especially if there is no real latency advantage. Great video!
Dude, 110ms difference in latency makes a huge difference when flying pure FPV. Even the better 170ms is hardly on the edge of being acceptable. e.g. at 40km/h within the latency the copter is 113m ahead of your perception, i.e. you landed in a tree already without knowing it ;-).
cool video - but one thing which makes me wonder the appropiate selection of a flying spot would be the huge Tower in the backgrund.
On the left side of the audience`s viewpoint.
Wouldn`t such a big source of telecommunications waves/radiation mean possibly reduced flying distances?
I would not feel comfortable at all, if there was such a big tower with so many - seemingly antennas - being installed on it`s sides...
If you made sure, it is no cellular tower at all and it is using completely different frequencies, well then my point is invalid and I may be excused.
only problem with wifi is the mobilephone is after 5min. very hot... this is not good..
I think the big difference while using the cable connection is just SAVING POWER on your phone!!
Latency/interference etc at 1 foot WILL be negligible between OTG and wifi... see how it acts at a half mile (or mile). Hardly a fair comparison imho. OTG makes a world of difference for me, if for no other reason, phone and controller battery life.
6:32 lol judging from his lips he actually just said mother... unbelievable
I'd rather just cable it up. It's quicker to setup than flipping to your WiFi connection. Less prone to interference at least. I can't say about range myself.
When the Spark is connected to the controller via wifi you don't actually have to connect your device to the controller using wifi, you can just plug your OTG cable from the controller to your device (I use airplane mode) and boot up the DJI Go 4 app. Just sayin...
Thanks for saving me $200!
the difference is really big buddy what a?!!!
It's terrible for me with wifi only. You should try it in an area with heavy interference.
What country is this?
My spark + controller using wifi is almost useless. Loosing signal and going home 50m+ away each time.
Stop buying cheap cables man! Spend the money and get the gold connection pins... the spark is now faster, and fly further. I noticed a major change when ever I used the Wi-Fi connection my battery drain faster and it would literally get so hot after normal flight it’s felt like you couldn’t hold it from the heat.
Android + otg = live stream. Plus latency test 1ft away?
I like your glasses what are those?
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What a silly test - to check out problems with wifi, in perfect conditions far out in the country. Was there even ONE access point or other wifi-activity present in this area ? Of course you'll get the answer you was looking for - that you CAN get a reliable wifi-connection from RC to an Iphone.. But what people has encountered in crowded network areas and with other phones - you just ignore ? Why do you call it a hack, by the way ? A steady cable connection that's integrated in the RC and app (that is highly recommended by DJI for the other drones, just not mentioned in the spark manual)
This is a hack or bypass it's another method that DJI just didn't advertise
Hardly a Hack !!!
it works with ios, but not with samsung s8, i have tested.
Oh, and using any Android device on any DJI project is just absolutely horrific. I see why they call Android "The Poor Man's OS" now.
Well with World wide sales of Android well surpassing IOS! in all markets whats the point.
Bigdroneguy Android does have a worldwide market, but they sure can't bring in profits like Apple. Let's not mention that Google themselves can't even make a app that runs on an Android device better than it can on an Apple device. please explain to me why developers are abandoning Android at an alarming pace? Let's not forget that Android tablets are absolutely horrific and you can't even work with editing 4K files using an Android device to this day. Let's get some other facts straight, now look at all the Android startup companies that fell under. Worldwide market shares mean nothing when you have to flood the market with cheap horrible Android devices to third world countries. Also, what is with Android devices losing over 80% of their value after a year? I see why DJI don't give a damn about Android as it shows in their Android apps.
Im about to post something that will make you eat your words just looking for the link!
WTF ?????? Omg Trufallo BAN.
Are you related to Sebastian Vettel?
at least, he is not related to lewis hamilton
So distance with phone wi-fi drone 100 meters controller 1.2 km that's not same bro not even close
Yes the results did work till they made the new firmware update which is now a 50-50 chance with IOS and android to work or not. Its a issue that DJI does know of and as they stated will be working on it but that is all smoke and mirrors with them as they are partnering up with Apple from what they have mentioned in other locations. So it looks that downgrading the firmware can still help with this hack but not 100%
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Dont agree. I found a huge difference in latency. wifi connection feeds always have interefence to contend with in urban areas. The direct cable an absolute must. Instead of critizing forums try looking at the statistical significance of them first. Many people cant all be incorrect. The accurate technical conclusion is that when using wifi connectivity connection strength can vary between handsets/tablets. Even for the same model. I have seen variance across different devices based on CPU capability. This is a key interface for connectivity video wise between the drone's feed being emiitted through the RC controller to your phone interfaced through dji go 4 software. Incidentally in my testing i found the connectivity this way via wifi so bad on my iphone 6s I almost sent the drone back. The direct micro usb to lightening or micro usb immediately removes that variance more importantly in conjested areas where wifi interference is more prevalent as a direct data cable is directly passing the data to the interfacing app thus removing any risk of interference which you obviously was not getting due to the open area you appeared to be in. hard wire will always give you better reliable bandwidth (cable quality dependent). Basic bandwidth law.
It's common knowledge flying using WIFI is terrible and if you do the math or read my post where it was done you will see 100ms delay hides what you hit at speed. Even in a camera quad it matters as you can't stop the wind moving you around. DJI products are for beginners that want a camera drone so the delay is more acceptable in that sense but still too much IMPO.
It’s 100 milliseconds faster. Not busted
Rubbish!!!!
OTG cable makes the flying experience a lot better!!! These tests are completely irrelevant.
pl noo
hack wtf they made it possible
Nice! Thanks for your videos
Sorry this is not very professional testing. Perhaps your scenario is perfect without interference. In the city wifi is not useable. Lags are terrible and frame freezes. Trust me you won't even dare to fly more than 10m when u don't see your video updated even though you are flying using wifi mode.
1. You can't fly in cities in almost every decent country. 2. The phone is just next to the controller, why other signal will interfere in the city? 3. The strongest signals in every country are the regular FM Radio and the UHS TV. They made the video next to the most important radio tower in the city so...
Xavi's G. Legal in America to fly over people and in cities, don’t confused rules with laws.
2. While I no longer own a spark, the cable makes a huge effing difference specially in WiFi congested areas. I tested this myself on many flights, you do have to disable WiFi on your phone first so doesn’t jump connection, and it’s about 1/2 the latency and range seems to be a bit better but mostly signal quality improvement.
3. TV towers can interfere but that’s mostly down to smothering it out with power, the wavelength is such that the spark could hide in the length of the wave and not be bothered.
Finally I own many DJI drones, including the sparks big brother the Mavic Air. I will say this, DJI’s Enhanced WiFi found in the Mavic Air (in FCC mode) beats the Lightbridge system in the Phantom 3 series drones. I tested this... and not too far off from Lightbridge on P4A but defiantly behind it on signal quality and range. and miles and miles off from Occusync 1 and 2 .
The reason that this works is that DJI created this hard link so that you could link the Spark to the DJI Goggles. See adapter cable now for sale at DJI.
The DJI Goggle interface is the same as the Smartphone. So that is why this works.
The Wifi connection from the Controller to the Spark is very unreliable and not usable on an iPhone or iPad. This is country dependant so you cannot provide a definitive result testing from your country.
This is due to issues with the 5.8Ghz wifi implementation in the controller. 5.8Ghnz Wifi is a controlled spectrum and has different access availability in different countries like FCC and CE compliance.
You need to clear the default 5.8Ghz wifi back to 2.4Ghz on the controller if you want to use an IOS device with wifi. The Model / Controller frequency hops channels in the 5.8Ghz band to channels that are not available on that countries 5.8Ghz IOS device. So you get constant pauses in the controls.
Cheers
From other tests I've seen, the improvement is in the lag from the video signal and no loss or dropout from wiFi connection. The "video quality" itself shouldn't be that much different, if at all.
Poor test, proofing nothing. :( Next time try to fly in the city and try to fly as far as possible with and without OTG cable. And try it in Europe where max flight distance is theoretically only 500m (without using another real "FCC hack").
I get far less latency and interference when using the OTG. I’ve never considered it a hack but rather a bypass.
Considering you didn’t fly it a great distance (I.e. 1.2 miles) this test was not credible. When distance increases between the radios, more power is required to send and receive and as a result, along with distance, greater latency. Try a true long range test and post another video using both methods again.
I have no problem using wifi to be honest
Late to the game.
Using iPhone is better
I have a google pixel 2 phone connected to the Spark via wifi. I would get random wifi disconnects between the phone and the controller. With an OTG cable absolutely ZERO disconnects. Cable all the way for me.
I gave your video a thumbs down, which I have never done before. The reason is your premise: if it doesn't affect me, it doesn't affect anyone. I am truly glad you don't have the issue (yet), but I have seen it first hand, and the cable solved it. So I guess your bust is busted.
second :-)
nice vid anyway. thanks !
no good info here.this test sucks bigtime!
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