My husband worked for the railroad for several years. I can't figure out why the guy couldn't cross that little bridge. If he was worried about walking in the gauge of the other track. They could call the dispatcher to let them know what he has to do and they will stop traffic on that track if necessary. A couple times my husband had to walk on a bridge a lot higher than that if he's just afraid of heights. My husband also had something like this happen and there was a train passing by like niw. He actually got a ride from that crew till he got to the break.
I'm a conductor for Norfolk, rules say we can't walk across a bridge if it doesn't have a walking platform I wouldn't walk over it either never know when someone is in the bushes.
Few things to point out. #1 the burst of air is the control valves discharging air.. #2 crews cannot cross a bridge that doesn't have a walkway.. #3 it's prohibited to walk between mainlines running parallel.. The rules are written in blood.. meaning crewmen have been killed.
For those who don't know: A train's air brakes work opposite to the way you might think they do. Putting air into the "train pipe" (which goes from one end of the train to the other via connecting hoses) releases the brakes. Letting air out of the train pipe causes the brakes to be applied. This happens thanks to an ingenious three-function valve. When air is pumped into the train pipe, inside each brake mechanism the air pressure pushes the valve across so that it simultaneously lets the air out of the brakes, releasing them, and allows air to be pumped into a pressure tank. When air is released from the train pipe, the pressure inside the tank pushes the valve to the other position which allows the air in the tank to go into the brake system and apply the brakes.
Man, I really enjoyed that! Great work with the radio and captions to keep us updated. I was hoping to see the brake shoes release from the wheels on the hopper car you had close ups of, once the got air to 'em. I've been a railfan since I was a child growing up near Cumberland, Md, (C&O, B&O, WM days) and got to experience a few of 'em screeching to a stop because of broken knuckles climbing the Connellsville sub grade. The WM basically ran through our back yard on the Connellsville sub and it was no big deal to "play" on the railroad back then .. every now and then a "bull" would come by and say, "you boys be careful, you know you shouldn't be on railroad property", and then he'd drive on. Thanks for sharing this vid, NS CSX Railfan.
One loco had an engine exhaust fire, the fire brigade put out the fire, then they shut down the engine, the engineer did not apply all the hand brakes as he should, the consist of oil flew down the grade, derailing in the town in the middle of the night, setting fire to all the town, the engineer did not believe it was his consist that ran away.. A shorter consist would be fixed quicker.. These long consists are dangerous..
The BLET union wants to reduce the size of all trains to 7500 feet. They are citing the length due to the fact that if a train goes into emergency it will not sew up the town, blocking emergency vehicles, and reducing in train forces. If they cannot get the FRA backin*, it is going to be a hard sale because the railroads want to do more with less, they would run 200 car trains if they could.
@@cdavid8139 Well, yes, hopefully that's true for/any stock venture. My point here tho is Wall Street greatly benefited as Railroads have "trimmed the fat" for what, a decade or more? Okay, the fat's been trimmed, and most Railroads have adopted some form of PSR. With these huge freight trains, I think it's only a matter of time before a bad accident catches up to them.
The regular spitting noise coming from your radio is likely the result of your cellphone. I say this based on the regular repetition and the regular pattern of the clicking. Next time it happens, put your phone in airplane mode.
I do not understand what the 2nd loco is looking for, because where ever he finds the broken hose the guys got to walk to it anyway, so I do not see an upside to this.
Do the residents around there have any other way of getting out or in in instances like this or are they stuck til the train clears the intersection? And once the original crew’s time was up, how do they home? Good filming by the way
Thanks! No, the residents have no other way to get to their homes. One resident reported it to NS and the traffic was quite backed up, but nothing could be done until the train moved. One resident and his 10 year old daughter actually crawled under the train to get home! The crew is picked up by PTI which is an outsourced transportation company hired by NS.
@@NSCSXRailfan They really ought to build a bypass for people to get to and from their homes, also for emergency vehicles. Fire engines, ambulances. Great shot!
@VArailfan89 sure it was an inconvenience but it doesn't happen very often. I worked for and still live along the Florida East Coast Railway which goes through many cities beginning with Jacksonville, St Augustine, Daytona and beyond to Fort Lauderdale and Miami, and the number of times roads/crossings are blocked is minimal.
Back in the late 90's,early 2000's the FRA after intense lobbying by the RR's Rescinded the requirement to staff a Caboose and allow the RR's to install a FLIR box on the rear car of the train instead, thereby cutting back on the # Of crewmen on the trains from 3 to 2. It's saving them on operating costs
I’m aware and apologize for the misspelled word but was unable to correct it after being published because I didn’t keep the original clips. Must have been “o” happy that day! Lol
My husband worked for the railroad for several years. I can't figure out why the guy couldn't cross that little bridge. If he was worried about walking in the gauge of the other track. They could call the dispatcher to let them know what he has to do and they will stop traffic on that track if necessary. A couple times my husband had to walk on a bridge a lot higher than that if he's just afraid of heights. My husband also had something like this happen and there was a train passing by like niw. He actually got a ride from that crew till he got to the break.
@made-in-the80swritten in blood... 😂
There was a reason why they use those types of rocks there on the tracks.
I'm a conductor for Norfolk, rules say we can't walk across a bridge if it doesn't have a walking platform I wouldn't walk over it either never know when someone is in the bushes.
@@geoffreysmommy It's 2024 the RR should have a device on airlines that shows when broken .
@@mikeyoung5211 Defect detectors?
Only took 28 seconds to stop it from when the hose blew out...thats amazing for a freight train.
Well, it was going pretty slow
Few things to point out. #1 the burst of air is the control valves discharging air.. #2 crews cannot cross a bridge that doesn't have a walkway.. #3 it's prohibited to walk between mainlines running parallel.. The rules are written in blood.. meaning crewmen have been killed.
That was quite a long train! Glad the issue wasn’t too serious.
For those who don't know: A train's air brakes work opposite to the way you might think they do. Putting air into the "train pipe" (which goes from one end of the train to the other via connecting hoses) releases the brakes. Letting air out of the train pipe causes the brakes to be applied.
This happens thanks to an ingenious three-function valve. When air is pumped into the train pipe, inside each brake mechanism the air pressure pushes the valve across so that it simultaneously lets the air out of the brakes, releasing them, and allows air to be pumped into a pressure tank. When air is released from the train pipe, the pressure inside the tank pushes the valve to the other position which allows the air in the tank to go into the brake system and apply the brakes.
Thanks for sharing the info!
It is the same with all transport who have air brakes.
Man, I really enjoyed that! Great work with the radio and captions to keep us updated. I was hoping to see the brake shoes release from the wheels on the hopper car you had close ups of, once the got air to 'em. I've been a railfan since I was a child growing up near Cumberland, Md, (C&O, B&O, WM days) and got to experience a few of 'em screeching to a stop because of broken knuckles climbing the Connellsville sub grade. The WM basically ran through our back yard on the Connellsville sub and it was no big deal to "play" on the railroad back then .. every now and then a "bull" would come by and say, "you boys be careful, you know you shouldn't be on railroad property", and then he'd drive on. Thanks for sharing this vid, NS CSX Railfan.
You’re welcome! And thanks for sharing your knowledge and history growing up near Cumberland!
First time I’ve watched your work and I really appreciate seeing the entire train. For me, freight cars are much more interesting than locomotives.
Thank you very much! I agree that the consist is often more interesting!
Thank yo0u very much for this very informative and interesting presentation 👍👍
You are very welcome!
Amazing you were right near the car/hose that "popped"...were you able to help them determine about where the break occurred?
Yes I did. Thanks for asking!
I was wondering that too. Were you able to contact the crew by radio?
Really interesting to hear the radio communication. Thanks for a great video.
Excellent.
Many thanks!
Reminds me that movie that shows a hanging air line causing a train to run away. IRL it was a dynamic brake setting, from what I read.
One loco had an engine exhaust fire, the fire brigade put out the fire, then they shut down the engine, the engineer did not apply all the hand brakes as he should, the consist of oil flew down the grade, derailing in the town in the middle of the night, setting fire to all the town, the engineer did not believe it was his consist that ran away..
A shorter consist would be fixed quicker..
These long consists are dangerous..
I also liked that rooster in the background.
Thanks!!! That rooster is still here and still crowing! Lol
Oh and to the filming great job and the patience to stick around
Thanks!
Some of these consists are 20,000 tons..
They could be one engine with 5,000 tons..
That train is approximately 33 football fields long! And it stopped in a very short time! Lots of square wheels after this!
Oh yes lots of banging square wheels after this! Lol
I enjoyed your video so I subscribed.
Awesome, thank you!
I would have called the NS emergency number and reported the air leak that I saw and heard.
The BLET union wants to reduce the size of all trains to 7500 feet. They are citing the length due to the fact that if a train goes into emergency it will not sew up the town, blocking emergency vehicles, and reducing in train forces. If they cannot get the FRA backin*, it is going to be a hard sale because the railroads want to do more with less, they would run 200 car trains if they could.
They did run over 200 cars once at this location and it derailed!
"Precision Scheduled Railroading" at work to put more money in Wall Street's pocket.🤪
Excellent video with radio comms.
@@b3j8 Let's be fair...that is what they are in business for. If I buy railroad stock I want the railroad to put more money in my pocket.
@@cdavid8139 Well, yes, hopefully that's true for/any stock venture. My point here tho is Wall Street greatly benefited as Railroads have "trimmed the fat" for what, a decade or more? Okay, the fat's been trimmed, and most Railroads have adopted some form of PSR. With these huge freight trains, I think it's only a matter of time before a bad accident catches up to them.
Was it ever established why the hose separated? And I just subscribed ! Thanks for a great, and even educational video!😁
No we don’t know why it separated. And thanks for subscribing and watching!!!
3:02 air hose breaks
Someone pin 📌 this comment
289 is flying down this grade.
The regular spitting noise coming from your radio is likely the result of your cellphone.
I say this based on the regular repetition and the regular pattern of the clicking.
Next time it happens, put your phone in airplane mode.
Good idea! I can never adjust the squelch on that particular radio!
277 was a real long train, kept saying where is the end.
Mid DPUs = Two trains run by one crew
Exactly!
RIP to the crew that has to switch that out 😂
Yeah
It went into emergency AGAIN?! was it another 3 hours??
Have to wonder what dolts they have in the train yard connecting the cars and air lines if they keep separating like that.
What happened to the handrails on the front of the lead locomotive ?
Not sure about that. But thanks for your comment!
I heard a refrigerated container on the other train, is that the diesel refrigeration unit running?
I believe they cycle on and off
I’m curious about what floats past the camera at 5min 30 secs
Just looked at that and I think it was a lens flare from the light. Just my guess. Hadn’t noticed it before.
I didn’t even notice it until you said that, Ghost maybe
I do not understand what the 2nd loco is looking for, because where ever he finds the broken hose the guys got to walk to it anyway, so I do not see an upside to this.
I agree totally, and he that second train wasn’t able to help at all.
It would appear that the train crew can't get off thier butts and check out the train
And the bean counters want a reduction in crews to one engineer….that will work out well….DONTCHA think.
You know it will!!! Lol
ANOTHER long train geez Louise unreal. X2
Works for Amtrak. Works for many other railroads throughout the world.
Typical day in rhe railroad.
It's "loses", not looses.
Thanks for the correction!
No shit!
Tighten Your Squelch: Your receiver keeps breaking squelch its irritating.
Will do!
Of emergency train the band that long hours ago.
Great Catch Mike
Thanks Franky!
Do the residents around there have any other way of getting out or in in instances like this or are they stuck til the train clears the intersection? And once the original crew’s time was up, how do they home? Good filming by the way
Thanks! No, the residents have no other way to get to their homes. One resident reported it to NS and the traffic was quite backed up, but nothing could be done until the train moved. One resident and his 10 year old daughter actually crawled under the train to get home! The crew is picked up by PTI which is an outsourced transportation company hired by NS.
@@NSCSXRailfan oh wow on resident and daughter 😳thanks for the answers
@@NSCSXRailfan They really ought to build a bypass for people to get to and from their homes, also for emergency vehicles. Fire engines, ambulances. Great shot!
@VArailfan89 sure it was an inconvenience but it doesn't happen very often. I worked for and still live along the Florida East Coast Railway which goes through many cities beginning with Jacksonville, St Augustine, Daytona and beyond to Fort Lauderdale and Miami, and the number of times roads/crossings are blocked is minimal.
Much better to have a 2 hour and 40 minute delay as opposed to a 2 million 400 thousand fuck up....
True!
My god how long are these trains now days?
Often 2-3 miles long
What radio do you use?
I use a Baufeng dual band transceiver. They are inexpensive and work great!
Lots of square wheels again..
These long consists should have a rear box guard..
@made-in-the80s Rear of train manned brake van guard.. Most European Steam Freight Trains had one..
Back in the late 90's,early 2000's the FRA after intense lobbying by the RR's
Rescinded the requirement to staff a
Caboose and allow the RR's to install a
FLIR box on the rear car of the train instead, thereby cutting back on the #
Of crewmen on the trains from 3 to 2.
It's saving them on operating costs
3:12 - "Looses" air?
looses?
I’m aware and apologize for the misspelled word but was unable to correct it after being published because I didn’t keep the original clips. Must have been “o” happy that day! Lol
Omg! He made a mistake, get over it.
@@NSCSXRailfandon’t apologize , you didn’t do anything wrong 🙂
Where was this at?
Elliston, VA
If you have men in dpu they could check the cars
I’ve never seen anyone in a DPU, on one helpers which is rare. Thanks for the comment.
@@NSCSXRailfan that would be a brake man
At a very large cost. The entire point of the DPU is to enable the railroad to run very large trains with very few people
Op
why foamers think they are allowed on railroad property? get off the property
Agreed!!!
What are foamers?
Shut up!
Just be quiet!