Every Mizuno Iron / Picking the Right One
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- Here we look at all the current Mizuno irons available. What are the differences to look at and how to choose the right one for your game. Included are the Mizuno JPX923 Fli-Hi, Mizuno Pro 221, 223, 225, JPX923 Hot Metal Pro, Hot Metal, and Hot Metal HL.
Eyes: 221
Heart: 225
Strike pattern: 923
Wallet: 919
I just got the 923 hot metal pro. Cant wait
@@davidmcbride8906didn’t fancy waiting for the 925’s? Or did you get them second hand
This was a great review of the various Mizuno irons. At times it was difficult to keep track of which head was which because you were moving them around almost like a magic trick!!
Excellent tutorial on the Mizuno line up. They have all the bases covered for all the players out there. With so many options you have to hit all of them to get the correct choice. I recently switched to the Srixon ZX5 and really enjoying so far. the stronger lofts took a little bit to get used to.
I recently visited a PGA store and tested the ZX5. I hit them well but they were loud on contact. I had also tested the MizunoPro 225’s, JPX923 HL, 223 Pro’s, and the 223 Hot metal. The Mizuno’s were all good but I hit the Mizuno 223 Pro’s best of all and gained considerable distance over the other choices. I expect to have them in my bag soon.
The one misconception that a lot of people have is that a blade is for a low handicap player. While it maybe true in some regards, strike is more important than handicap. I was a single digit player before I had numerous injuries and illnesses. This year coming back after 6 years off I'm now a mid handicap player and working my way back. I consistently strike center of the face but it's face to path that is my nemesis right now. I have a old set of blades that i can strike very well. But leaving the face open still leaves them going right.
Just be honest with yourself about your playing ability and keep an open mind in a fitting.
I own the MizunoPro 225’s and they are the best ever in this category. Best all around iron and the looks are timeless .
I’m booked in for a fitting end of the month.
The 225s are what I think will suit me best in paper. Keen to see what the fitting shows works best for me though!
225s are gorgeous 😍
@@Tobias.d ya the 225’s are the whole package , feel , forgiveness, distance and they are gorgeous.
Got my first set of Mizunos in april (Pro223), and they are just awesome. Looks great at adress, and when hit properly they just feels amazing. Playing of approx hcp 8-10 these are just perfect for me.
Probably my personal favorite of all the Mizuno offerings.
WHEN HIT PROPERLY
@@EFG2 your recent test: jpx 923 hot metal pro(28 degrees, 180 yards)vs 225(173 yards, 30 degree)...If they have same degree of loft, will they have similar distances Or maybe a few yards difference? Big difference in forgiveness in your opinion?
@@giomusah2155 The distance tracked very close with the lofts. Call it between 5 and 8 yards overall. I think the longer irons will be more forgiving in the JPX line, shorter irons will see less of a difference with the 225. I personally like a mixed set idea with 225 and JPX923 HL. The standard lofts on those two sets would blend well together without any need to start bending lofts most likely.
@@EFG2 you mean 5-8 yard difference if they have same loft? I shoot in the 80s, have 225s but wondering I need to 'upgrade.'
The 225's worked best for me. The lofting is reasonable and they are pretty forgiving. These are also workable.
I'd like a manufacturer to produce a traditional loft iron with added forgiveness. I swing the club fast enough and I don't need to carry my 7 iron 190.
I think the new Ping i230’s are just that.
Takomo 101T and 201 are an option. They are direct to consumer so there aren’t fitting options but if you know what kbs shaft works for you and any offset you may need they’re a solid option at a cheaper price
Ping have retro specs on their iron with weaker lofts than stock, you might to check them out
Thank you!
The ping g430s have retro loft options.
As a senior golfer, I'm interested in perhaps a combination of the Hot Metal and Hot Metal HL. When available, I am going to go to a fitting.
Be careful they probably won’t combo as the HL have weaker lofts so won’t blend with the standards without using say two seven irons so as to create gapping.
Love this video! Great comparison on the Mizuno‘s. I’ve never seen it broken down like this.
I play 921 tour lefty set the Sel. And I love them
Hi AJ what a great Video👌, taking time to explain the difference’s In the Mizuno Iron range, and showing the difference’s with each head👍,Also discussing the different loft’s😃, Thanks for a Brilliant review Dickey 9hcp 75year Senior Golfer UK
Good stuff. I've been interested in doing a combo of JPX and MPs. This video helped me see that I need to really be careful of the different lofts. The MPs are just so damn appealing.
Also remember the new JPX Tour and Forged heads are coming out. Those will likely be a great candidate for a blended set.
I have a pretty unusual combination in my bag: MP 221 PW-7, with JPX HMP 7-5. The two 7’s have about 5 degrees between them so the lofting is perfect if you can get over carrying two of the same numbered iron.
Love the look of the MP225s
If the next generation look and perform similarly the I’ll likely invest in a full set.
New ones look very similar, just slight difference in the back.
Great video. Thank you for the breakdown.
One omission in the commentary perhaps? Could the presenter have linked each club to low mid and higher handicap categories (although it was clear what iron was best for the low handicap golfers)
Played T Zoid Pro and MP64, both with traditional lofts, both with standard 10m gaps. Apart from blades, new M go thru a 1degree less loft range but with only 7 clubs not 8 (3-PW) When changing shafts Project X5.5 to Nippon 120 S. I was asked to try 921 Hot Metal Pro and having hit the 6 I compared it with my 5 (same loft) and just changed shafts. Seek feedback on 223 /225 distance gaps in 8-PW irons, as you don't trial a set only 1 club.
I pick JPX 923 Hot Metal Pro! Compact and forgiving.
Had the 225s....hated em. switched to 223 and love them
Very good to have this clear comparision of the Mizuno Irons☝
I was debating on waiting on the 923 forged over the new hot metal pro
Good review, however never told us what the different offsets were between models.
Think I prefer the standard hot metal JPX 923 for my skill level and the fact that I do not want to practice to spare my lower back. I looked at the 921 recently, and that club looks good. I would also get the set wedges down to the sand and maybe lob wedge. I am looking at the 923 hot metal knowing the lofts are possibly too strong.
I just played my first round with the 923 HM yesterday and I absolutely love them. Coming from Taylormade RSi 1 it was a comelrtrly different feel for me which I really enjoyed. The jacked up lofts surprisingly doesn’t equate to much more yardage which I didn’t mind. Wasn’t really looking for extra distance but that forgiveness and feel. Which is what these clubs have. I enjoyed hitting my irons yesterday and they are a sharp looking set
@@johnpetolillo288 Hi John, how have you been doing with your hot metals ,I am an RSI 1 player and am waiting for my st
Just had an opportunity to test the new JPX 923’s. The JPX 923 Hot Metal Pro is my choice with a bit more distance than current Mizuno gamer (JPX 800 Pro Forged 2010 Version) due to the stronger lofts. I also found out the i should be using a 2 degree toe up lie. I had a flatter swing and have changed to swing path. Now I understand why I hit shots that are more toward the toe. I usually find that if I address the ball more toward the hosel at address that I hit the sweet spot better. AJ, is it possible to bend my JPX800 Pro Forged irons to achieve the 2 degree toe up lie angle? Great videos. I hope your new shop is meeting expectations.
You should be able to get 2 degrees out of them.
Great summary of these.. i currently play the 921pros .. was considering going to the new 923pros or 225's but I really don't know how much "better" that upgrade is , or if it's even worth it. Hit the 225's in a bay already and liked them but again "how much better" are they really to the 921pros i already have ? Thanks again, all this info is super helpful
I went for a fitting earlier this year, it came down to pro 225s or 921 forged, the 225s were realistically 3 yards longer, but everything else was the same. Apart from 2 things, the price, and the workability. I'm not good enough for the 921 tour or 221 pro, but i do like to hit different shots when need arises. Yes you can fade, draw etc the 225's but for me it was much easier with the forged. Not looked back and so happy I'm probably not gonna look at irons again for at least 10 years.
Love my 225's.....I wish they were a bit more shiny like the 221's.
923 Forged can’t wait
Good presentation and facts always enjoy your videos. Fan of mobile clubmaker too. A question did Mizuno make A and B heads for swing weight adjustment? What are normal swing weights for the JPX923 ballpark is fine. Thanks
B heads are for over length builds. Standard SW assuming a "standard" length would be D2.
@@EFG2 thank you for clearing that up for me. Keep the vids coming I love learning the tech Thanks again for the content.
Now you got JPX923 Forged & Tour models.
You did not mention about the JPX 923 FORGED 😢😢😢
So I have the 223s….I like ‘em but you fall off a cliff when you get to the 8 iron down. Not only does the club change to basically a blade (221) but the lofts weaken as well. You end up with a 7i that goes 180 and an 8i if not struck well that goes 145. Obviously the Indian and not the arrow - but something to keep in mind when buying a progressive set. The dispersion will almost always be more because the technology is completely different. My beef is that 90 percent of the time I’m not hitting the 7i up….almost always driver then 8i down….so stuck in blade land for the most part.
Gonna keep ‘em but will probably buy an easier sets thats a bit more accommodating. 223s are basically for 221 players that want some help…..not for JPX players looking to sample that next ambitious level. My.02
I would bend the 8-p down a degree or two to get the distances back in line. Obviously you could also go the other direction and weaken up the 7,6,5 the same amount.
I'd personally do the 8-p strong so you don't feel like you need to swing so hard to get anything out of them. If it doesn't work, can always bend them back.
Hi AJ. Just curious if your shop is open for business yet. I want you to take a look at my putter. Something is not right with it. Thanks.
Yes. Email me at adam@elitefitgolf.com and we can set up a time.
Like the idea of the HL… CB irons with traditional lofts.. why put them on steroids??
Great video. Question: I have MP-20 MMC irons. What irons are in the next progression? Is it the Mizuno Pro 225?
Probably the 223 is closest.
Hi, I’m curious if the jpx 921 forged would be more forgiving than the 225 mizuno pro?
I would say the longer irons in the 921 are slightly more forgiving than the 225.
Got some irons to hit this winter. Interested in the JPX 223 Forged, 225, 223, and Srixon's new Zx5/Zx7 mkii. Would love to combo these and have the more forgiving in the longer irons, precious in scoring.
I've hit the srixon 7 and 5 very nice clubs , definitely cheaper in price , but srixon from there company for some reason the irons are 3/4 to 1/2 longer then Callaway, Talyormade,
Which wireless microphone would you recommend for doing youtube or other vlogs?
I use the Rode Wireless Go II. Works pretty consistently overall. Only had a couple times where it had an issue.
I recommend if you use it, to record separate audio directly into the Rode and not connect it to the camera mic line. You have to sync it in post but I have fewer issues when doing it that way. Also most editing software has some sort of auto syncing function that makes it very simple.
How and where do the 923 forged fit into the lineup? Specifically, more or less forgiving than the 225s?
They are really close. Maybe I put the forged as slightly more forgiving but honestly if you can hit one, you can hit the other. Probably comes down to looks and feel more than anything else.
No 923 Forged and Tour models?
Not right now. 3 in the MP line and 3 in the JPX.
Does mizuno automatically use lighter heads when you order clubs that are + 1/2" in length to keep the swing weight in the recommended range or is that something you would have to specify? My clubs in the past from callaway have had very heavy swing weight like D9 just because of the added length.
Not sure if it's an automatic thing. When i order custom sets, I always specify A or B heads.
@@EFG2 thanks I'll ask mizuno...it doesn't really seem clear because there is no option to specify B heads when ordering on website
@@Lantheus Let me know if you want me to order your clubs up. I can get you exactly what you want from Mizuno.
can hybrid shaft be an iron shaft or does it need to be hybrid shaft?
Yes, it can definitely be an iron shaft as long as it fits the hosel. Usually a good idea to go down one iron shaft from whatever hosel you are using. Example, if you have a 4 hybrid, I would use a 3i shaft.
Thank you
I wish I could afford them!!!
Are you able to do a review on oban ct125 shafts is there a similar option I'm thinking of making a set with mizuno 221
I won't be stocking Oban shafts. Have some issues with how and why they are highlighted with certain fitters which I won't get into here.
@@EFG2 anything comparable worth gutting
@@go-getter2008 KBS Tour 125 or $ Taper 125.
Am I better off buying forged 921s or just save up for forged 923, as im not to sure if there is that much of a difference ? Im currently play titleist ap1 716
The 923 has stronger lofts through the set if that is a factor one way or the other.
923 feel night and day way better then 921
Does the 225 have the same forgiveness on miss hits as the hot metal line up?
No. The Hot Metal Pro is the closest comparison but the 225 is not as forgiving. The order of forgiveness from least to most would be 221, 223, 225, hm pro, hm, hm hl.
I would say the 225 and the 923 Pro will be pretty close with a slight nod to the JPX line for forgiveness. Again the lofts will end up being the biggest difference in many cases.
@@EFG2 if I have 6 iron--gap wedge 225s. Will the forgiveness gap be reduced compared to jpx hot metals' 923? if so, how much difference, a few yards? I hit a 7 iron , 170 yards.
@@goutfromfriedokra3936 JPX 923 will be a little more forgiving and longer because of the lofts.
Looks like the 923 HM and HMP have slightly stronger lofts than the 921 HM\HMP
You are right. But the yardage is pretty much on par between both of them believe it or not. I swung both clubs and preferred the 923 HM over the 921 HM. Just felt better for me personally
ISO anyone?
suggestion for your video. all you're doing is summarizing general info on each club that's readily available anywhere. not very insightful for you to just go over info on the website.
I love the ping zing2 irons I love the release feel but I am told they are illegal to use anymore and I was wondering if there’s something out there newer that goes longer and higher I know the pings into has massive offset but that’s what I like it’s too bad ping didn’t make a zing2 iron that was forged
Pretty much everything will go longer now because they have stronger lofts. Trick is to find ones with enough loft to still hit it high along with farther. Might require changing your thoughts on what a certain iron number should do as comparing a Ping Zing 2 7i against todays clubs isn't a fair match up.