Thanks for watching this video. There seems to be some confusion as to why I name bolts by their Hex size. I do this because it's an instuctional video and you may need to know what size wrench or socket to use for removal. Hope you enjoy my work around getting this unit apart.
I really like the way you do that - after all, when the bolt is in the hole the only thing your interested in is what sized socket you use to get the bastard out!
I have rebuilt hundreds of standard transmissions and this was my first w58 and l have to say your video, procedure, and explanation is top notch. The transmission is so smooth and quiet the man thought l gave him a new one. Thank you for your wonderful video.
I'm the guy who works on old air cooled VW engines and transmissions. It's doubtful that I will ever work on a toyota 5 speed but I try to watch all your videos because I always learn something new that I can apply to my work. Your editing and thought process is outstanding. I like the way you explain things. I like that you have to struggle and fumble with things. It just makes it real. Thanks for sharing what you do.
Excellent tutorial. Just about every other video out there is based on this one. No need to go elsewhere because you won't learn anymore than this one will teach. Not knocking the other ones but this is the one to watch.
Great Video! Boy, does this bring back memories! The only other tips I can share is that 1) I used a die-grinder to quickly mark things before disassembly, like one-notch for rail one, two-notches for rail two, one-notch on fork for first gear & orientation, 3-notches on fork for 3rd, and same for the sliders, etc. 2) I would take cardboard from the transmission building kits and fold them like an accordion so I could quickly put the detent balls, interlocks, clips, bolts, etc., in order. I then can later clean them and place them back in order on a new folded cardboard to prepare for the reassembly.
Ah, that's perfect. I have a w58 spare for my ma61.. I will open it and clean it because it has been stored for years and it's in rough condition.. thanks !
I am currently prepping to crack the housing for my w58 open to flush the vintage sludge and old grease out from the gearset, and found this video perfect! will likely be rewatching this two or three more times mid process haha
I wish I would have had this video when I rebuilt my w55 a few years ago. It was the first transmission I had ever rebuilt and this video would have saved me a lot of time and hassle. Thank you for putting this together
Just bought two, one with a blown 2nd gear and cluster and another with a blown output. Cant wait to tackle this project. Thanks for the informative video!!!!!
A great & very helpfull video . I built my self a hydraulic press & supported the 5th gear & bearing & reverse gear on a section of bulldozer blade cutting edge on 100 x100 box section 100 mm long . With the press compressing the shaft i used a LPG torch to slightly heat the inner surface of the 5th gear & bearing & tapped the shaft with a brass hammer & bang, off it popped. Thanks for your help
Awesome video! Good lighting, camera angles, explanations, no story-telling...perfect. Thanks for making it! I have a buddy w an early 90's Toyota P/U that slipping out of gears, he wants me to fix it. Not sure if its the same trans, but I'll be using this video as a guide.
Super 5 baby ! Had a ‘82 Toyota Supra with a 383ci. SBC. If you didn’t do anything stupid it would last a long time . Very strong design. Great videos . Very informative and appreciated !
Great tear down vid. I have a w58 I’m about to tear down and convert to a triumph tr3 engine. Was told it was rebuilt recently so will prolly just split the cases and inspect initially. Looks like a pretty advanced tear down that I hope to avoid. Will rely heavily on part 2 if I do. Cheers.
Very good video, you explain very well and you think outside the box and no BS. It's nice to see a real mechanic on RUclips. Question where do you like to buy your parts from for transmissions.
Nice job, i rebuild/refresh W series for a hobby, got 4 on the bench at the moment. 5th gear gear is definately challenging, i made myself a custom plate that grasps behind 5th and invested in a 20t hydraulic 2/3leg puller..makes it a breeze, cant stand when people cut 5th off. With that spring retainer behind the 5th/R hub, just use a puller and grasp outside of hub with a bit of pressure and tap with a soft face, should pop loose and you dont damage the discontinued retainer. On later models they do away with circular key springs and use coil type with 3 piece rings
Thanks for inviting me for lunch, Paul. I hope I didn't get in your way. The tear down and explanations were spot on. Your 5th gear removal idea was perfect. Thanks again for the tutorial.
Awesome, i didn't think you worked on these smaller trans'. I rebuild T50's for the ae86 toyota corolla in my area and for my team. Love learning more about rebuilds. Keep it up!
Man.. That tape on those clip rings to keep them from getting lost is pretty damn clever... I would usually have a gallon milk jug cut in half to try and catch it... It would usually work, but it's a pain to get set into place sometimes....... nice tip. I'm gonna remember that one. Great video, quality is top notch... I rebuilt (replaced syncros) my transmission in my 2002 7.3L Ford diesel.. was ZF650 6speed manual... I just dove in without knowing anything about it.. I found a PDF service manual on a ZF650 online but it was out of a GM diesel, not Ford... but it was close enough to get me through the build... It was basically the exact same except maybe the input and tail shafts (or something, don't quote me.. I dont' remember what all was different, if anything).. It called for a $500 long armed puller (like 24", 2 arms).. which I was not gonna buy.. so we whipped up some scrap metal and a 3/4" all thread rod and built one.... I figured it was gonna be all we needed ... but no, of coarse we needed a press.... So I found a new 32ton bottle jack and we built a basic press with some large I-beams and angle iron.... I didn't have those plate clamps like you do at the press..... All we had was 1/2" plates..... and there was a point where we had to pull 3 giant gears all at once, and it took everything that 32 ton jack could press... I had to get a cheater bar to even pump the jack. The press was creeking and popping and then it finally popped off all at once. super sketchy- but I didn't break anything; it's been working for years since then (the reassembled trans-- and the press for that matter). Probably not the best trans to cut your teeth on.. It's the first transmission I've ever pulled apart. It felt pretty risky but it paid off... Love the vids man.. Keep pumping them out..>> the payback will still be coming long after you retire... Have a body of work like yours in a large library of videos like this just keeps growing over time. big fan.
Thanks for making this. I hope you one day get a s2000 transmission or something with a secondary reduction like it. I would love to see how they work.
That is a somewhat complicated teardown, made even more difficult by video documenting it, Awesome effort, great content, and it is very much appreciated!
THANK YOU SO MUCH,,,I STILL RUN A 1987 4RUNNER AS SEEN IN MY PROFILE PICTURE,,YES,THAT IS BONNEVILLE SALT FLATS WHERE I WAS A TRACK STEWART FOR LAND SPEED EVENTS..I LIKE THIS TO BE MY LAST BUGGY,AND HAD NO CLUE WHAT I WOULD DO IF I HAD TRANSMISSION TROUBLE..YOUR VIDEO WAS A BIG HELP...STAY WELL
Fantastic video! Just about to rebuild mine next week with syncros bearings and fresh fluid. Honestly tho excellent job on the break down and explanations
In order to get 5th gear off, I first removed the bearing race and rollers, then (carefully) put a small slit in the race with a grinder. The inner race then pulled easily using a bearing splitter. After that, 5th gear came off OK with a bearing puller.
I am not the mechanical type but, I enjoy watching you work on these transmissions and am learning a lot... Not that I would ever try to take one apart:) Well, maybe but only one that I knew was not going to go back together...:)☮🙃
Paul....Awesome video sir!...very well done. Good short cut on getting the 5th gear off, never thought about removing the cluster or counter shaft without pulling 5th gear and reverse gear first, excellent idea sir. When do you think you can post a reassembly video of the gearbox?... Very well done Paul, much appreciated sir. ( waiting on Part 2 !! )...Thx, Jim
That was epic! many thanks for this, i have 3x W52's to rebuild (same box different ratios, used in the toyota hilux here in Australia). I suspect this video will get a lot of views as it draws in the toyota guys.
Liked your videos for ages. Now your doing the W series, which is just what I need to give me confidence to rebuild my boxes. Reading from a manual is one thing, seeing it done by someone who explains it so well is so much better. In Australia these gearboxes were used in all sorts of conversions as they are a good box and were cheap. Now are harder to find used and are expensive. I have 4 broken boxes and was researching rebuild options and your video came out. I have 2 boxes W 57 or 58 and two later type with 3 piece syncro set up W 59 I think Syncros, bearings, and seals are easy to come by, but new or used gears and counter shafts almost impossible Have sourced new counter shafts and some gears for the W59 ( from America -gear box used in toyota tarcoma) So I am rebuilding the W 59s ,just waiting for your part 2 video before starting. Any ideas on parts suppliers for the earlier boxes? There are some manufacturers of gearsets specifically for race applications, but expensive Thanks for your great videos
I believe this video is the most applicable video I can find on the internet of someone building a Gearbox which is basically an AISIN. Was the W58 stamped as an AISIN product or was it stamped TOYOTA? I am looking to rebuild my AISIN R72 5-spd, so far I have not been able to get a response from AISIN with regard to obtaining a shop service manual for rebuilding the R72. My vehicle is a Suzuki Jimny 04', the gearlever and fork assembly diagram (parts catalogue) looks very similar to the W58, the main difference I noticed is the R72 has a detachable bellhousing and an extension housing so its kind of a 3 piece but internally very similar.
im tearing down my w56 which is almost identical to the w58/59's... this is the most informative "how-to" instructional vid ive found. thanks for sharing your knowledge brotha ya made this project go from a daunting task to actually a enjoyable experience. not quite F-bomb free tho lol!
@@GearBoxVideo i have a question and im guessing with your expertise u might be able to answer. i have a 1994 w56 mtm. strange thing tho, the shift hub keys do not come out of the hub. looks like they were manufactured to stay in.. all vids and even my fsm show them simply coming right off of the hubs. you wouldndt happen to know if this was an upgrade to the late model w56's or am i missing something here... im a noob at this, but im really enjoying learning and doing it myself. but i know with toyota mtm's of this era are not exactly "all the same, so im a little stumped.
Top video, lots of experience on show - thanks for sharing, it's great to see an expert at work. The one thing I hate about working on gearboxes is the stench from the oil! You got to scrub hard to get it out of your hands and it never seems to get out of your clothes - can still smell the stench after washing - any tips!?!
@@GearBoxVideo was being a smartass- seriously though - thanks for the videos, they are really informative and very helpful - you have obviously done plenty of suffering with these damn things to have obtained the knowledge you so generously share - Happy Holidays!
Very similar to R154, though I think the R154 is laid out a little better. For example, both 5th gear and the 5th gear synch assembly have M8x1 threaded holes for you to use to pull them off the shafts. They are not a crazy tight press fit, and come off the shafts easily. Also, Aisin was clever with reverse, and instead of using a "reverse gear", they cut spur gear teeth into the outer diameter of the 1st/2nd gear slider. Makes the whole unit a little simpler, behind the midplate. Thanks for posting!
Thanks for watching. The R154 is much easier to work on. The SST tools for the W58 are not available or at least hard to find. This is the work around.
I like you videos, if I may I will share my many years of experience at a Toyota dealership repairing gearboxes. The Sandwich plate is best held in the vise and the reverse and 5th gears pulled off first with “C’ clamp puller and long attachment legs. Then remove the torque bolts and snap rings. Next remove the pins attaching the 3-4 &1-2 shift forks to the shift rods. Slide both shafts at once (together) out of the sandwich (centre) plate and move the shift forks along their shafts and off the ends of the shaft, leaving the sandwich plate with the shift rods and the spring balls together for later dismantling.
First see my part 2 video. Second the c clamp thing is hit or miss. If you were at a Toyota dealer you would have had a special tool which is not a puller. I used the tool in the late 80's when we did Toyota dealer work. Tool SST 09312-20011. When we did any dealer work we always had the correct tools. Look in a shop manual and you will see what it does. C clamps break more 5th gears and the primary reason so many new 5 sets are sold. Your method seems interesting but since the back end of the rails have to be removed anyway.. what's the point? You are not saving any time. Why risk damaging the rails yanking a gear train out next to them? The factory overhaul manual doesn't show doing it this way. So I guess its some short cut that honestly I see zero gain.
Exelent love the videos. I know these boxes are pritty strong even behind a small block chevy. the only gear that dont last is 5th. is there a way to beef it up?
In the middle of an AX 15 teardown with my 17 yo daughter. Her 93 Jeep YJ has been treated poorly and it needs some love.Any chance you are planning a video on this gearbox anytime soon? hoping to getworking on my CJ T5 with a blown 3rd gear soon after. Always find your videos interesting and insights valuable! Great work Paul.
I watched enough of his videos over the winter that I felt confident I could rebuilt my Aisin AZ6. It was also a massive help having the service manual. They're much more tricky than the ole 'Murican boxes, because of all the hidden detents. 6 of the 7 gears are inside the center housing, so you can't actually see how everything fits together until you remove enough things that you can separate the housings. You basically remove the detent plugs in the case and pull the springs and hopefully the ball bearings out. There are a few that you can't access and only when you pull the shift arms out will you hear them fall down into the case. I took photos and bagged and labeled everything. But then was still left with a few of the ball bearings after I got the cases separated and didn't really know where they went. This made assembly quite fiddly, since there was a fair amount of trial and error figuring out how the interlocks worked and making sure there weren't any left over detents. It took about 35-40 hours total between disassembly, cleaning, inspection, ordering parts, and reassembly. I could probably cut the next rebuild in half probably now that I have all the necessary tools and know which to use for each step. Box works like a champ and zero grinding during the first race weekend.
@@1QuickSlovak My first experience with an Aisin box was replacing both front bearings on an old FS5W71B. Love that midplate layout: makes it so easy to change those end bearings. Still shifts like butter after ~100,000 miles *and* 2 people learning to drive stick with it - taught myself and then my mom. No noise even north of 120. My dad's planning a 302 build in an old Triumph and I'm trying like hell to talk him into an AZ6. He wants a 5-speed and he was set on a T5, but he also wants somewhere around 400 horses. If you gotta go (semi-)custom (TKO on a Windsor?), you might as well go all-in, right? And Nissan CD009 boxes are pretty cheap.
Yup got a beefed up 5th to replace the one I chopped up it had chipped teeth. Still have a decel vibration 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear? after replacing all the bearings and syncros as well. And yes this is much harder then it looks. Accidentally put 5th slider on backwards. It did not shift to 5th. Had to crack it back open a second time
Hi Paul, I remember seeing you on EricTheCarGuy’s channel and saw the whole series with the mustang T5 rebuild, I was instantly hooked on your presentation and information and subscribed to your channel that same time period. I really enjoy watching your videos and learning! btw just saw your latest hurst shifter video but started watching this one right after and felt like commenting here lol. Thank you for your hard work and bringing us along too! Cheers from NY 👍🏼
Truly satisfting to see you rebuilding a W58 i broke one my self years ago but rebuilding wasnt an option due to powerincrease, what do you think i have soon a whining Getrag V160 spare can you work on that and make an instruction video for the synchronized 6 speed guys ( the hardcore getrag v160 lovers)
@@GearBoxVideo absolutely love your videos, i jus took my W58 apart, but is there a website or source you can provide to order a synchro set and gasket set for this particular one? My second and third syncho is shot but i don't know if i can trust the ebay brands
Hello, i have a question, i forgot to put oil in my w58 and left the car idling for some time, now it whine in 1st 2nd 3rd and 5th gear, no whine in 4th gear, what parts do i need to change, only the bearings?
Removal of the counter fifth gear use a long legged puller with a chained mole grip around the puller legs to stop it form slipping, then screw in to pull the gear off.
Very interesting stuff. I'm waiting for part 2 though as I have a W58 that I'm wanting to put back together. I bought what I assumed was a MK4 Supra (iron centre support) W58 that the previous owner had the direct shift casing installed to suit their build (turns out, it's only the alloy centre support, weaker version). I'm currently trying to fit a remote shift mount to it but the bearing seems too be too big for the hole in the casing, so the casing isn't mounting up. I just wanted to know if I'm doing something wrong or the bearings are just different sizes in the iron centre support W58s
Hi I have a 5 th gear problem with 5th hoping out but I would like to know if this is a common fault and what's needed to sort it, otherwise the box is good! very good video the only comment is I could see how the reverse shaft with attached spring loaded arm locates as it was filmed from the opposite side. Kind regards Pete
Excellent videos but I am in limbo with my Getrag manual 4 speed off my 1981 Mercedes 240d. It is my daily driver and I have noticed between shifts that the shifting is not as smooth as it once did and I have been noticing these subtle differences in just the last few months. It would be perfect with a 5 speed but most of the manual transmission sold in the U.S. for Mercedes 240d were 4 speed manuals. I am running Amsoil synthetic synchromesh transmission oil. This last Wednesday 9/28/22 I thought I had lost the transmission when shifting from 2nd to 3rd all the sudden I grinding happened. Then it locked up 3rd and 4th and the shift lever flopped and 1st, 2nd and reverse would not budge. Yesterday 10/1/22 the culprit was the shift lever clip broke on the outer shift lever. I snagged one off my 1980 Mercedes 240d parts car with an automatic tranny. And it is back and running. I noticed after much research the last few days that there is very little information on this 4 speed manual Getrag. Any information would be much appreciated. I personally like manual trannys over automatics. I have a 4 speed manual on my 1964 Ford f250. I would prefer a 5 speed but it would be a big challenge and not sure what direction to go.
Do you have a video on a Ford M5R1 manual transmission? I didnt see one, but im about to try to fix it myself. I have been watching your videos and have learned so much. Thank you. Everyone wants more to rebuild the transmission than the trucks worth. She has been a great truck, im not giving up on her. yet..
Is there any chance you could do a rebuild/instructional video of the 5spd AR5? People are starting to use this in LS swaps quite a bit and using FABbotfab's AR5 adapter kit. I swapped one in myself. It is reported to only handle 260 ft lbs of torque but it has been proven out in a build with 880+ horse power and about 780+ ft lbs torque. Can you explain how it handles this in comparison to maybe the T56?
Just scored one of these in a trade of unknown condition. Guess I'll be cracking it open to see if it needs a rebuild. Thanks so much for this, Thought I was gonna be flying blind. I only have done honda manuals before this. Any idea the torque these are rated/good for?
As a rule Transmission torque ratings are designed for their intended use. Example: Automotive manufacturers are not going to pay for a transmission designed to handle 500 Ft Lbs when the actual car has only 200 peak
Thanks for watching this video. There seems to be some confusion as to why I name bolts by their Hex size. I do this because it's an instuctional video and you may need to know what size wrench or socket to use for removal. Hope you enjoy my work around getting this unit apart.
I really like the way you do that - after all, when the bolt is in the hole the only thing your interested in is what sized socket you use to get the bastard out!
Exactly
I have rebuilt hundreds of standard transmissions and this was my first w58 and l have to say your video, procedure, and explanation is top notch. The transmission is so smooth and quiet the man thought l gave him a new one. Thank you for your wonderful video.
Appreciate the feedback
"I don't know what they were thinking."
I find myself saying the same thing on just about every repair I do. Thanks!
It’s always a pleasure watching the master, mastering his craft. Awesome step by step for mechanically incline individual. Thanks Paul for all you do.
I'm the guy who works on old air cooled VW engines and transmissions. It's doubtful that I will ever work on a toyota 5 speed but I try to watch all your videos because I always learn something new that I can apply to my work. Your editing and thought process is outstanding. I like the way you explain things. I like that you have to struggle and fumble with things. It just makes it real. Thanks for sharing what you do.
vw bus , transmission is more complicated , this transmission is more simplified then the T2/T3 gearboxes
Amazing video, very concise, very clear, informative and decently paced. I felt like I could follow along fairly easily and actually learn something
Thanks
I like that using the tape to prevent the snap ring flying away.
Excellent tutorial. Just about every other video out there is based on this one. No need to go elsewhere because you won't learn anymore than this one will teach. Not knocking the other ones but this is the one to watch.
Thank you
hey Regular...
you dissecting a very unique part of the automotive industry. Nobody is doing it, the way you doing it (with brains).
u legend!
Thank you
Great Video! Boy, does this bring back memories! The only other tips I can share is that 1) I used a die-grinder to quickly mark things before disassembly, like one-notch for rail one, two-notches for rail two, one-notch on fork for first gear & orientation, 3-notches on fork for 3rd, and same for the sliders, etc. 2) I would take cardboard from the transmission building kits and fold them like an accordion so I could quickly put the detent balls, interlocks, clips, bolts, etc., in order. I then can later clean them and place them back in order on a new folded cardboard to prepare for the reassembly.
Ah, that's perfect. I have a w58 spare for my ma61.. I will open it and clean it because it has been stored for years and it's in rough condition.. thanks !
"But I'm going to show you a cool trick that you can try in your shop....." - Me: 🤔 slowly puts down 4lb hammer and cold chisel..
I am currently prepping to crack the housing for my w58 open to flush the vintage sludge and old grease out from the gearset, and found this video perfect! will likely be rewatching this two or three more times mid process haha
This is one of the Best Videos ever made.....Complete control and total comprehension. This demands some kind of award! Great!
I wish I would have had this video when I rebuilt my w55 a few years ago. It was the first transmission I had ever rebuilt and this video would have saved me a lot of time and hassle. Thank you for putting this together
Glad I could help!
Just bought two, one with a blown 2nd gear and cluster and another with a blown output. Cant wait to tackle this project. Thanks for the informative video!!!!!
By far the best videos on transmission you're gonna find on RUclips...
A great & very helpfull video .
I built my self a hydraulic press & supported the 5th gear & bearing & reverse gear on a section of bulldozer blade cutting edge on 100 x100 box section 100 mm long .
With the press compressing the shaft i used a LPG torch to slightly heat the inner surface of the 5th gear & bearing & tapped the shaft with a brass hammer & bang, off it popped.
Thanks for your help
a clear and simple/straightforward explanation,its the best ive seen sofar
Information goldmine! A True service to all gearheads, Thank you sir
Glad to help
Thanks for posting this . I’m rebuilding a hilux gearbox very similar.Your video was very helpful . Greatly appreciated
Good luck!
Awesome video! Good lighting, camera angles, explanations, no story-telling...perfect. Thanks for making it!
I have a buddy w an early 90's Toyota P/U that slipping out of gears, he wants me to fix it. Not sure if its the same trans, but I'll be using this video as a guide.
Glad you liked it
Fabulous video! I used it to rebuild the gearbox from my Lotus Excel, I could never have managed without this video. Thank you!
You're welcome!
Super 5 baby !
Had a ‘82 Toyota Supra with a 383ci. SBC.
If you didn’t do anything stupid it would last a long time . Very strong design.
Great videos . Very informative and appreciated !
Its a very well designed and precise gearbox
Great tear down vid. I have a w58 I’m about to tear down and convert to a triumph tr3 engine. Was told it was rebuilt recently so will prolly just split the cases and inspect initially. Looks like a pretty advanced tear down that I hope to avoid. Will rely heavily on part 2 if I do. Cheers.
I'm liking this video and saving it to a playlist before I'm even two minutes in; pretty much anything from Paul is gonna be good.
You make it look easy.
Very good video, you explain very well and you think outside the box and no BS. It's nice to see a real mechanic on RUclips. Question where do you like to buy your parts from for transmissions.
I sell parts. Look at the links in the videos!
Nice job, i rebuild/refresh W series for a hobby, got 4 on the bench at the moment. 5th gear gear is definately challenging, i made myself a custom plate that grasps behind 5th and invested in a 20t hydraulic 2/3leg puller..makes it a breeze, cant stand when people cut 5th off.
With that spring retainer behind the 5th/R hub, just use a puller and grasp outside of hub with a bit of pressure and tap with a soft face, should pop loose and you dont damage the discontinued retainer.
On later models they do away with circular key springs and use coil type with 3 piece rings
Thanks for the tips. Great when people share info!
Great info! You should make your own vid. Everyone has different insights!
Thanks for inviting me for lunch, Paul. I hope I didn't get in your way. The tear down and explanations were spot on. Your 5th gear removal idea was perfect. Thanks again for the tutorial.
Awesome, i didn't think you worked on these smaller trans'. I rebuild T50's for the ae86 toyota corolla in my area and for my team. Love learning more about rebuilds. Keep it up!
Man.. That tape on those clip rings to keep them from getting lost is pretty damn clever...
I would usually have a gallon milk jug cut in half to try and catch it... It would usually work, but it's a pain to get set into place sometimes....... nice tip. I'm gonna remember that one. Great video, quality is top notch... I rebuilt (replaced syncros) my transmission in my 2002 7.3L Ford diesel.. was ZF650 6speed manual... I just dove in without knowing anything about it.. I found a PDF service manual on a ZF650 online but it was out of a GM diesel, not Ford... but it was close enough to get me through the build... It was basically the exact same except maybe the input and tail shafts (or something, don't quote me.. I dont' remember what all was different, if anything).. It called for a $500 long armed puller (like 24", 2 arms).. which I was not gonna buy.. so we whipped up some scrap metal and a 3/4" all thread rod and built one.... I figured it was gonna be all we needed ... but no, of coarse we needed a press.... So I found a new 32ton bottle jack and we built a basic press with some large I-beams and angle iron.... I didn't have those plate clamps like you do at the press..... All we had was 1/2" plates..... and there was a point where we had to pull 3 giant gears all at once, and it took everything that 32 ton jack could press... I had to get a cheater bar to even pump the jack. The press was creeking and popping and then it finally popped off all at once. super sketchy- but I didn't break anything; it's been working for years since then (the reassembled trans-- and the press for that matter). Probably not the best trans to cut your teeth on.. It's the first transmission I've ever pulled apart. It felt pretty risky but it paid off... Love the vids man.. Keep pumping them out..>> the payback will still be coming long after you retire... Have a body of work like yours in a large library of videos like this just keeps growing over time. big fan.
Don't have any auto mechanic skills myself, but this is very satisfying to watch 👍
Your videos are fabulous. I'll feel comfortable doing this job myself after watching the video.
Please let us know had it worked out
Very good tip about tape on the snap rings. Thank you for sharing.
This is litterally the video im glad you uploaded. i own a 1984 supra/celica. hopefully ill never have transmission issues
I learn so much every time I watch your videos, thank you Paul!
awesome video this was a nice guide to rebuilding my transmission at home.
Thanks for making this. I hope you one day get a s2000 transmission or something with a secondary reduction like it. I would love to see how they work.
Awesome video thanks but when part 2 is coming out ?
It's nice to see a different gearbox, because I be mostly do the Fiat gearboxes, thanks for video!!!!!!
That is a somewhat complicated teardown, made even more difficult by video documenting it, Awesome effort, great content, and it is very much appreciated!
Really enjoyed the vid! Toyota only uses 12mm :)
Loved the paper towel and tape tip!
THANK YOU SO MUCH,,,I STILL RUN A 1987 4RUNNER AS SEEN IN MY PROFILE PICTURE,,YES,THAT IS BONNEVILLE SALT FLATS WHERE I WAS A TRACK STEWART FOR LAND SPEED EVENTS..I LIKE THIS TO BE MY LAST BUGGY,AND HAD NO CLUE WHAT I WOULD DO IF I HAD TRANSMISSION TROUBLE..YOUR VIDEO WAS A BIG HELP...STAY WELL
Thank you
Fantastic video! Just about to rebuild mine next week with syncros bearings and fresh fluid. Honestly tho excellent job on the break down and explanations
Really well filmed and edited. Nice work.
since saw you with Eric the Car Guy, I am huge fan of your quality.
Thank you
In order to get 5th gear off, I first removed the bearing race and rollers, then (carefully) put a small slit in the race with a grinder. The inner race then pulled easily using a bearing splitter. After that, 5th gear came off OK with a bearing puller.
Excellent video, as always.
I am not the mechanical type but, I enjoy watching you work on these transmissions and am learning a lot... Not that I would ever try to take one apart:) Well, maybe but only one that I knew was not going to go back together...:)☮🙃
You are the best! I like this job!
AMAZING TEARDOWN 👍👏👏👏👏👏
Paul....Awesome video sir!...very well done. Good short cut on getting the 5th gear off, never thought about removing the cluster or counter shaft without pulling 5th gear and reverse gear first, excellent idea sir. When do you think you can post a reassembly video of the gearbox?... Very well done Paul, much appreciated sir. ( waiting on Part 2 !! )...Thx, Jim
Coming soon. About 1 week
Your videos are always great. Thanks so much for sharing your expertise.
Kind regards from sunny SoCal
That was epic! many thanks for this, i have 3x W52's to rebuild (same box different ratios, used in the toyota hilux here in Australia). I suspect this video will get a lot of views as it draws in the toyota guys.
Love your videos! Thanks for posting this one! Looking forward to the conclusion. You have definitely inspired me to tear down my own W55 trans!
Liked your videos for ages. Now your doing the W series, which is just what I need to give me confidence to rebuild my boxes. Reading from a manual is one thing, seeing it done by someone who explains it so well is so much better.
In Australia these gearboxes were used in all sorts of conversions as they are a good box and were cheap. Now are harder to find used and are expensive. I have 4 broken boxes and was researching rebuild options and your video came out.
I have 2 boxes W 57 or 58 and two later type with 3 piece syncro set up W 59 I think
Syncros, bearings, and seals are easy to come by, but new or used gears and counter shafts almost impossible
Have sourced new counter shafts and some gears for the W59 ( from America -gear box used in toyota tarcoma)
So I am rebuilding the W 59s ,just waiting for your part 2 video before starting.
Any ideas on parts suppliers for the earlier boxes?
There are some manufacturers of gearsets specifically for race applications, but expensive
Thanks for your great videos
I think Transtar in Portland Oregon had a bunch of gears made. I know they did 5th speed sets as well as some input shafts.
I believe this video is the most applicable video I can find on the internet of someone building a Gearbox which is basically an AISIN.
Was the W58 stamped as an AISIN product or was it stamped TOYOTA?
I am looking to rebuild my AISIN R72 5-spd, so far I have not been able to get a response from AISIN with regard to obtaining a shop service manual for rebuilding the R72.
My vehicle is a Suzuki Jimny 04', the gearlever and fork assembly diagram (parts catalogue) looks very similar to the W58, the main difference I noticed is the R72 has a detachable bellhousing and an extension housing so its kind of a 3 piece but internally very similar.
Awesome video, didn't get mine apart this far but nice to know if I ever have to replace anything I know the few tricks this thing has 👍👍👍
im tearing down my w56 which is almost identical to the w58/59's... this is the most informative "how-to" instructional vid ive found. thanks for sharing your knowledge brotha ya made this project go from a daunting task to actually a enjoyable experience. not quite F-bomb free tho lol!
Thanks for watching!
@@GearBoxVideo i have a question and im guessing with your expertise u might be able to answer.
i have a 1994 w56 mtm. strange thing tho, the shift hub keys do not come out of the hub. looks like they were manufactured to stay in.. all vids and even my fsm show them simply coming right off of the hubs. you wouldndt happen to know if this was an upgrade to the late model w56's or am i missing something here... im a noob at this, but im really enjoying learning and doing it myself. but i know with toyota mtm's of this era are not exactly "all the same, so im a little stumped.
Some keys had wings in them and will not come out of the hub
Top video, lots of experience on show - thanks for sharing, it's great to see an expert at work.
The one thing I hate about working on gearboxes is the stench from the oil!
You got to scrub hard to get it out of your hands and it never seems to get out of your clothes - can still smell the stench after washing - any tips!?!
Enjoy it ..
@@GearBoxVideo was being a smartass- seriously though - thanks for the videos, they are really informative and very helpful - you have obviously done plenty of suffering with these damn things to have obtained the knowledge you so generously share - Happy Holidays!
Same to you. I've learned to love the odor it's impossible to get out.... Take care
Helpful video. Thanks. I used it to do a tail shaft swap from a W55 to a w59. 🤘🏽
Glad it helped
Very similar to R154, though I think the R154 is laid out a little better. For example, both 5th gear and the 5th gear synch assembly have M8x1 threaded holes for you to use to pull them off the shafts. They are not a crazy tight press fit, and come off the shafts easily. Also, Aisin was clever with reverse, and instead of using a "reverse gear", they cut spur gear teeth into the outer diameter of the 1st/2nd gear slider. Makes the whole unit a little simpler, behind the midplate.
Thanks for posting!
Thanks for watching. The R154 is much easier to work on. The SST tools for the W58 are not available or at least hard to find. This is the work around.
I like you videos, if I may I will share my many years of experience at a Toyota dealership repairing gearboxes.
The Sandwich plate is best held in the vise and the reverse and 5th gears pulled off first with “C’ clamp puller and long attachment legs.
Then remove the torque bolts and snap rings.
Next remove the pins attaching the 3-4 &1-2 shift forks to the shift rods.
Slide both shafts at once (together) out of the sandwich (centre) plate and move the shift forks along their shafts and off the ends of the shaft, leaving the sandwich plate with the shift rods and the spring balls together for later dismantling.
First see my part 2 video. Second the c clamp thing is hit or miss. If you were at a Toyota dealer you would have had a special tool which is not a puller. I used the tool in the late 80's when we did Toyota dealer work. Tool SST 09312-20011. When we did any dealer work we always had the correct tools. Look in a shop manual and you will see what it does. C clamps break more 5th gears and the primary reason so many new 5 sets are sold. Your method seems interesting but since the back end of the rails have to be removed anyway.. what's the point? You are not saving any time. Why risk damaging the rails yanking a gear train out next to them? The factory overhaul manual doesn't show doing it this way. So I guess its some short cut that honestly I see zero gain.
For anybody who can’t pull out the first rod; watch what he does at 15:00 to pull it out! Totally got stuck for a minute trying to figure it out
I watch this stuff for hours I like gear boxes....
Exelent love the videos. I know these boxes are pritty strong even behind a small block chevy. the only gear that dont last is 5th. is there a way to beef it up?
Never did I think this trans would be on here.
In the middle of an AX 15 teardown with my 17 yo daughter. Her 93 Jeep YJ has been treated poorly and it needs some love.Any chance you are planning a video on this gearbox anytime soon? hoping to getworking on my CJ T5 with a blown 3rd gear soon after. Always find your videos interesting and insights valuable! Great work Paul.
This was great. Thank you so much for making this video series.
Very good demonstration sir. Very useful to train my Trainees. Thank you.
thanks. 83 supra trans is starting to go out after 250k miles.
Blew mine with ~400hp, low rpm pull with 4th gear. Massive rattle noise but no noise with clutch pressed in and neutral works. xD
Excellent. I've been hoping to see you dig into an Aisin box for a while.
I watched enough of his videos over the winter that I felt confident I could rebuilt my Aisin AZ6. It was also a massive help having the service manual. They're much more tricky than the ole 'Murican boxes, because of all the hidden detents. 6 of the 7 gears are inside the center housing, so you can't actually see how everything fits together until you remove enough things that you can separate the housings. You basically remove the detent plugs in the case and pull the springs and hopefully the ball bearings out. There are a few that you can't access and only when you pull the shift arms out will you hear them fall down into the case.
I took photos and bagged and labeled everything. But then was still left with a few of the ball bearings after I got the cases separated and didn't really know where they went. This made assembly quite fiddly, since there was a fair amount of trial and error figuring out how the interlocks worked and making sure there weren't any left over detents. It took about 35-40 hours total between disassembly, cleaning, inspection, ordering parts, and reassembly. I could probably cut the next rebuild in half probably now that I have all the necessary tools and know which to use for each step. Box works like a champ and zero grinding during the first race weekend.
@@1QuickSlovak My first experience with an Aisin box was replacing both front bearings on an old FS5W71B. Love that midplate layout: makes it so easy to change those end bearings.
Still shifts like butter after ~100,000 miles *and* 2 people learning to drive stick with it - taught myself and then my mom. No noise even north of 120.
My dad's planning a 302 build in an old Triumph and I'm trying like hell to talk him into an AZ6. He wants a 5-speed and he was set on a T5, but he also wants somewhere around 400 horses. If you gotta go (semi-)custom (TKO on a Windsor?), you might as well go all-in, right? And Nissan CD009 boxes are pretty cheap.
Very well very good explanations.
Thanks
Yup got a beefed up 5th to replace the one I chopped up it had chipped teeth. Still have a decel vibration 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear? after replacing all the bearings and syncros as well. And yes this is much harder then it looks. Accidentally put 5th slider on backwards. It did not shift to 5th. Had to crack it back open a second time
Where did you get your stronger 5th gear? I'm looking for heavy duty parts.
@Toyo Rover Amp distributing. Doesn't mention being wider, but It was wider(thicker) compared to my 85 celica w58.
Hi Paul, I remember seeing you on EricTheCarGuy’s channel and saw the whole series with the mustang T5 rebuild, I was instantly hooked on your presentation and information and subscribed to your channel that same time period. I really enjoy watching your videos and learning! btw just saw your latest hurst shifter video but started watching this one right after and felt like commenting here lol. Thank you for your hard work and bringing us along too! Cheers from NY 👍🏼
Thanks a bunch for subscribing and watching the vids.
Very informative video!
Thank you for sharing your valuable knowledge!
Straight to it with good quality and detail!
Thank you
Thanks for this vid Paul ,great help as I am about to rebuild my W56.Wish you had a book on these as you do on Muncie's, book is invaluable to me !!!!
makes you appreciate the simplicity of the t5
Truly satisfting to see you rebuilding a W58 i broke one my self years ago but rebuilding wasnt an option due to powerincrease, what do you think i have soon a whining Getrag V160 spare can you work on that and make an instruction video for the synchronized 6 speed guys ( the hardcore getrag v160 lovers)
If you got a spare unit, I'll do a rebuild video
@@GearBoxVideo super as were going with an samsonas and will leave the V160 in your hands then, I will contact you so we can ship this unit to you.
@@GearBoxVideo absolutely love your videos, i jus took my W58 apart, but is there a website or source you can provide to order a synchro set and gasket set for this particular one? My second and third syncho is shot but i don't know if i can trust the ebay brands
Ricardo did you ever find a source? I know Toyota has some, more expensive though.
I stock these parts.
Hello, i have a question, i forgot to put oil in my w58 and left the car idling for some time, now it whine in 1st 2nd 3rd and 5th gear, no whine in 4th gear, what parts do i need to change, only the bearings?
You burned up the input shaft and countergear.
Removal of the counter fifth gear use a long legged puller with a chained mole grip around the puller legs to stop it form slipping, then screw in to pull the gear off.
Have you actually done it this way on this same transmission?
Found this video really interesting. Love these videos.
Have you done a r150 or r154?
Very interesting stuff. I'm waiting for part 2 though as I have a W58 that I'm wanting to put back together.
I bought what I assumed was a MK4 Supra (iron centre support) W58 that the previous owner had the direct shift casing installed to suit their build (turns out, it's only the alloy centre support, weaker version). I'm currently trying to fit a remote shift mount to it but the bearing seems too be too big for the hole in the casing, so the casing isn't mounting up. I just wanted to know if I'm doing something wrong or the bearings are just different sizes in the iron centre support W58s
Hi I have a 5 th gear problem with 5th hoping out but I would like to know if this is a common fault and what's needed to sort it, otherwise the box is good!
very good video the only comment is I could see how the reverse shaft with attached spring loaded arm locates as it was filmed from the opposite side. Kind regards Pete
Usually a worn fork is more common than the 5th gear going bad on the Toyota trans
Would love to see any transaxle disassembly being done here, thanks. As usual, another great video, Paul, keep coming. :)
amazing video, thank you so much!!!
Glad you liked it!
sir your WhatsApp number send me
Not on whatsApp. Best to look at my contact info on the channels ABOUT section
Nice teardown episode.
Excellent videos but I am in limbo with my Getrag manual 4 speed off my 1981 Mercedes 240d. It is my daily driver and I have noticed between shifts that the shifting is not as smooth as it once did and I have been noticing these subtle differences in just the last few months. It would be perfect with a 5 speed but most of the manual transmission sold in the U.S. for Mercedes 240d were 4 speed manuals. I am running Amsoil synthetic synchromesh transmission oil. This last Wednesday 9/28/22 I thought I had lost the transmission when shifting from 2nd to 3rd all the sudden I grinding happened. Then it locked up 3rd and 4th and the shift lever flopped and 1st, 2nd and reverse would not budge. Yesterday 10/1/22 the culprit was the shift lever clip broke on the outer shift lever. I snagged one off my 1980 Mercedes 240d parts car with an automatic tranny. And it is back and running. I noticed after much research the last few days that there is very little information on this 4 speed manual Getrag. Any information would be much appreciated. I personally like manual trannys over automatics. I have a 4 speed manual on my 1964 Ford f250. I would prefer a 5 speed but it would be a big challenge and not sure what direction to go.
Awesome vid as usual, always a great reminder why it costs so much to get a gearbox rebuild -_-
Do you have a video on a Ford M5R1 manual transmission? I didnt see one, but im about to try to fix it myself. I have been watching your videos and have learned so much. Thank you. Everyone wants more to rebuild the transmission than the trucks worth. She has been a great truck, im not giving up on her. yet..
No video yet
I would love to see an r154 video!
Is there any chance you could do a rebuild/instructional video of the 5spd AR5? People are starting to use this in LS swaps quite a bit and using FABbotfab's AR5 adapter kit. I swapped one in myself. It is reported to only handle 260 ft lbs of torque but it has been proven out in a build with 880+ horse power and about 780+ ft lbs torque. Can you explain how it handles this in comparison to maybe the T56?
See www.5speeds.com/requests.html
Only transmissions I would evenly compare to a t56 is the v160/161 and cd009
Just scored one of these in a trade of unknown condition. Guess I'll be cracking it open to see if it needs a rebuild.
Thanks so much for this, Thought I was gonna be flying blind. I only have done honda manuals before this.
Any idea the torque these are rated/good for?
As a rule Transmission torque ratings are designed for their intended use. Example: Automotive manufacturers are not going to pay for a transmission designed to handle 500 Ft Lbs when the actual car has only 200 peak
I really enjoyed this video. Very informative. And I subscribe
I like that tape idea for the Jesus clips
Love seeing a Japanese transmission!
Excellent instructional!