American Reacts to US vs UK Health Care Systems and True Cost of US Healthcare Shocks British People
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- American Reacts to US vs UK Health Care Systems and True Cost of US Healthcare Shocks British People
In this video I take a look at the differences in the US and UK healthcare systems. Since it was related I figured why not take a look at what the true cost of us health care shocking British people. They were surprised. Unfortunately, I'm not. This is one subject that I can definitely get ranty on.
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Broke my leg, went to A&E on a Saturday afternoon. Booked in, saw a nurse, then x-rayed, then saw the DR, who then referred me to a consultant due to the break, the consultant then wanted me have an MRI on my leg, then studied the results, then cast up and sent home with an appointment for the clinic in 2 weeks time. All this took place within 3 hours. Price paid? Nothing. The NHS is awesome.
Triple stent for my heart (granted it took a little while to happen) cost.... nothing.
Love the NHS and have never hated paying my taxes for it.
There is always a price, it's just you didn't see it. Saying it is FREE is wrong. There is a shared cost.
I agree. I have always been on the option that people appreciate that they know the cost of. Free at the point of use is a sound principle. However, A&E during the summer is full of people with sunburn, Friday and Saturday's have a great many people wanting treatment for alcohol related injuries and hundreds of appointments not kept without apologies or reasons. As a nation, there is a commitment to Free at the point of use health care. But what is being done by those on the individual side of the heath care equation. Obesity, lack of exercise, or poot diets. I'm proud of the NHS. I have family in the US, and know what their families pay for heath insurance. National Heath care look after me well. But social care is a two sided solution. Centralised and individual. Both need to be held to account.
ive never had to use the a&e personally but family ive been with i wish it got done in 3 hours lol not complaining as it costs nothing. i spent 7hrs waiting with my partner in the a&e for a broke hand. royal stoke has a busy a&e
@@thatspikeguy6194 as someone who’s been stuck for hours in A&E several times, I can share something a doctor told me to which helps with the long wait. Because they triage cases at the A&E, we could be thankful if we might have to wait for long periods for treatment there. The shorter the wait, the more serious they deem our condition to be.
The fact that the richest country in the world charges the poorest for their health care is abhorant .
Richest? Or the one ignoring debt?
@@Al3xisAE they all ignore debt
It pays for their nuclear weapons Arsenal and $300bn+ defence budget which a high proportion could go on a better health care system that doesn’t rely on insurance companies to do it..
@@doubleplazroblox3944 The fact that supposedly the amount for health out of the taxes in the US, is double that of other first world countries. WHERE does that money go? Pfizer did not develop a vaccine, BioTec, a German firm did, who refused money from the US government.
Don’t the US owe trillions?
Anyone who prefers the US style of healthcare to the NHS is either rich or deluded.
or brainwashed?
just saying
@@agenttrash1226 no. The US system sucks
@@agenttrash1226 like what ? beeing broke for a trip to the hospital? beeing price gouged by big pharma? please explain your reasoning
@@agenttrash1226
1- wrong : usa scales last among the developped countried in quality. (source google)
2 - wrong : most i ever waited in a crowded major city hospital was 3 hours.
3 - wrong : refusing healthcare for reasons x-y-z is illegal and a rupture of human rights in europe .
4- non urgent surgeries are by name non urgent. if you cant wait you can go to a private clinic and pay to get it done faster, you will still pay less than usa.
5- wrong again : usa is classed 4th behind switzerland, germany and the netherlands.
(source google)
i dont know what your sources are but please stop it you are making a fool of yourself. or keep going its quite fun
@@agenttrash1226 . & medical bills are the #1 cause of bankruptcy in the US. The NHS is infinitely superior
Broke my foot, no cost.
My baby born in a difficult birth that nearly killed him and my wife, no cost.
Many people I know have had cancer treatment, no cost.
I take medicine to help my mental health and it costs 30 pence per day.
I work in healthcare and I'm so thankful for the NHS.
I've had epilepsy (focal) since I was 5 I am now 19. have had about 4 CT scans (maybe more can't remember), stayed in there for a week due to complications, 3 MRIs and jesus knows how many appointments/checkups. I live in Scotland so prescriptions are taken out of tax thankfully as I take 6 types of medication and have to resuply every 3 weeks. And thats just me, my mum had a oeration and had to be seen by the nurse 3 weeks after all for nothing. Along with my dads arthritas. Its amazing! xxx
There is a cost it costs the taxpayers, it may seem like its free but it isn't free everyone paying tax pays for it
@@gilly9666 Yeah, that's true. I would still prefer a system that takes care of everyone over a system that lines the pockets of big pharma and the people that they pay off in government.
@@gilly9666 see Cara above. That is how it works. I might need it tomorrow and I don't mind my taxes helping people like Cara. If I ever get sick I will get help from people paying in.
My partner got diagnosed with cancer 18 months ago. She only has one treatment left. It's been stressful enough without having to worry about the cost. With the NHS it has cost us nothing and that's during a pandemic.
❤️NHS❤️
As a Belgian I think the lack of worry one has for finances during a difficult health crisis is one of the best things about it.
My mother was in IC for over a week, in the hospital for over a month, after a car crash. Me and my father were renovating a room for my mother and money was simply never an issue.
Cancer is horrible I hope your partner goes in to full remission. Best wishes.
Exactly! My daughter was diagnosed with leukaemia at 3 years old.
Stress was just terrible, can’t imagine how terrible it would be to have to worry about paying for care!!!
As a brit living in the US I have sampled both systems. Give me NHS anyday.
You mean the same NHS that isn't doing treatment for us?
You mean the NHS that's vaccinated millions of people.
@@DarrylHart you get a serious illness here you will got bankrupt, plain and simple
Another Brit in the USA. Give me the NHS any day.
@@DarrylHart wtf are you talking about? Sod off to America and see how much treatment you get.
you don't opt out of the NHS, that's BS. You can have private treatment as a supplement.
Right, and emergency medecine is still NHS. If you have a heart attack, they won't rush you to a private BUPA ward, you will go to the A&E department of your nearest NHS hospital.
@@nbartlett6538 and don’t forget, if it’s severe then they’ll likely transfer you to a specialist hospital like Kings College for treatment.
Yup, its why Health Insurance with BUPA is 30% what it is in the US, because the same Surgeon is doing the operation that is free on the NHS, all you're doing is paying for a Hotel Room and waitress service (which is what a Private Hospital is), even the operation has to now join the queue for treatment if they use an NHS Surgical Ward, complaints from the public about queue jumping by people paying private and using NHS facilities put paid to that. This even includes CT Scans and other expensive scanning diagnostic equipment that only the NHS can afford as the number of people with Health Insurance does not justify the capital and running costs, so NHS Ambulances transport these patients from the Private Hospital to the NHS facilities.
Private Health Insurance can't charge you for something you are already entitled to as an British Citizen, whether you pay tax or not.
As a former NHS Ambulance Paramedic in the area I worked even the Private Patients used NHS Ambulances, and were charged a mileage rate and a fee, and even those private hospitals that have their own surgical ward, when the patient goes into an emergency, they used to call an NHS Ambulance to take the private patient to an NHS A&E Department.
This is why we think the system you have in the US is nuts.
@@nbartlett6538 true, my work friend went yellow in work, so we took him to hospital and they rushed him straight in. Was there for 2 weeks. He has BUPA care but now they won’t touch him for 5 yrs because the NHS has already seen him..massive con that private health care
I pay cash for my private treatments, aside from big operations it's not too bad. My private consultant is also my NHS one lol crazy.
Aneurin Bevan (the founder of the NHS) once said: "No society can legitimately call itself civilised if a sick person is denied medical aid because of lack of means."
We in the UK are so damn fortunate to have the NHS because of him. Places like the US seem to punish the people just for being sick. The world needs something as close to free health care like the NHS, no matter how rich, poor, colour of your skin, your sex or where you come from. I can only hope for places like the US and its government to grow common sense and think of the people instead of the money they suck from them, i hope one day things change for you guys across the pond 💙
The US government needs to take a damn hard look at itself and the way it treats its people - as it is, they are treated little better than a slave labour force. Speaking of which, the US supposedly abolished slavery - well not quite. One only has to read the words of it to realise that the US still has slaves and that the owner of them is the very government itself. If you end up in jail, you become a slave.
Incredibly fortunate! The NHS is what saved my life.
@@ojonasar Boris and his muppet right-wing mates want to take the UK in the same direction.
@@ojonasar You say that the government owns the slaves, but given how many prisons in the US are private, there are still a lot of private owners...
@@ojonasar Too much of the govmt is on corporate payroll.
Big pharma, medical (doctor) lobbies, insurance companies....
They all pay campaign contributions to aspiring candidates and incumbent politicians in Congress.
ie it's a rigged game, and they know it.
I spent 30 years of my life working in the NHS, I am so proud to have been a part of it. Health is precious, Health is LIFE.
I am proud of you too pal. All the best to you and yours.Rab
THANK YOU ♥️
I am also proud to have served for 48 years in this fantastic service ...many of my family and friends work for the NHS and health is definitely precious
"if you can find money to kill people, you can find money to help people" Tony Benn
now he was great politician indeed
We need a Tony Ben right now! ❤️
Tony Benn
@@mypointofview1111 ah I thought it was two ns
@@kevdeburgh we had Corbyn but the msm couldn't possibly let a ~socialist~ get power and possibly ruin their billionaire exploiting the rest comfy life....
This makes you really appreciate the NHS in the UK 🇬🇧
Exactly
Hope you guys keep on protecting & defending it. If a few Conservatives and others had their way, the NHS would be replaced with a more US style for profit system.
And yet it's still overrated, especially during covid
@@zahrans that would be political suicide if they did that, and i think they know that
just need to pay the NHS staff properly
I’m no socialist but you will have to take my NHS from my cold dead hands.
Do you ever vote Tory?
@@Britonbear What has voting Tory got to do with anything? The Beveridge Report was commissioned by a predominantly Tory government, even the phrase "National Health Service" was first coined by a Tory Minister of Health, Henry Willink. We would have the NHS today, regardless of who won the 1945 general election. Since WW2, The Tories have had the lion's share of government, and could have got rid of the NHS at any time of their choosing. In short, they recognise the value of a healthy workforce.
The Tories voted against the formation of the NHS 21 times before the act was passed, including both the Second and Third reading. In 1946 Churchill suggested it was a slippery slope towards Nazism.
Absolute nonsense that they could have got rid of it at any time because it is hugely popular amongst the electorate; it would be political suicide, hence the stealth attacks. Not that you can compare the current extreme right-wing mob to the Conservatives of the 50-60's.
Bevin was right about them and anyone who doesn't realise that they are ideologically opposed to the NHS is a fool.
@@Britonbear I believe the Tories objections were based on the concerns of doctors, who for the most part didn't want to become state employees. They were also opposed to the concept of state-owned hospitals, with the additional financial burden on the state that they would cause. The preference was for a compulsory national insurance-based system, with care delivered by the hospitals, whether they were charity or privately-owned. Given that we'd just racked up debts in excess of 200% of GDP in the previous six years, it seems like a more sensible way to go to me. Compulsory NI didn't suit Labour's dogma though, state-control being the be-all and end-all in those days. The fact that the rest of the developed world failed to follow the NHS model didn't seem to bother them. The result is the bureaucratic monolith we have today. It works, but it has staggered from crisis to crisis for the last 75 years.
Right there with you. Let the Tories try and I will be n the streets protesting!
I’m a doctor in the nhs and it’s so rewarding 😃
Thank you for your service.❤️
@@iriscollins7583 thankyou ❤️🔥
Thank you.
Thanks for everything you do Matt. One of God's chosen angels for sure ❤
@@aymanarznifa259 💕
When my mum passed away in 2016, they made her final days as comfortable as possible, they made sure she was looked after and they did everything within their power to save her life. Even though, in the end, their efforts couldn't save her, I'm so fucking grateful to them for everything they did.
God bless the NHS. Anyone tries taking it away and they'll have one hell of a war on their hands. We're fiercely protective of it and rightly so.
The NHS is truly amazing, I have Cystic Fibrosis and have free access to a team of healthcare professionals at any time. A consultant, dietician, physiotherapist, diabetic nurse, and even a psychologist. I have never had to wait on a list in my whole life. I am 41 now, despite being told at a young age that I would not see my 20's.
Wishing you all the best, Richard :)
NHS brilliant, all working people pay a small amount so that EVERYONE can access care. How anyone can think it's acceptable to charge what the US does for a basic human right is a joke!
I disagree, jokes are supposed to be funny
@@sopcannon I'm sure it probably is hilarious to the psychopaths who run the hospitals, pharma and insurance companies.
Or the politicians that gladly take their 'campaign donations'.
Frankly the 1st video did the NHS a disservice trying to present a balanced point of view (understandably). The NHS is a national treasure.
Another thing that’s lost in the healthcare debate is the misaligned incentives created by the US system. Doctors scared to operate on high-risk patients in case they hurt their record and can command less $; big pharma helping create the opioid crisis; people leaving hospital early to save money etc.
From the outside, it’s nuts.
@Fat Jack it happens more than it should but at least it’s always because Doctor thinks patient is ready (even if they are trying to move a quickly as safely possible).
Bigger issue is patients trying to discharge themselves when not ready as know everything minute cost them $
Its people like you that give me hope we may survive this.
In the uk you don’t opt out of the NHS if you have private health cover, you can still walk into any NHS hospital and be treated, you have the option.
Want to know the best thing about the whole Epipen pricing scandal? The NHS buys its Epipens from the same companies that you do in the US. Except the NHS pays about $16 for them and that's still a profit for the pharma company!
The current cost for an EpiPen to the NHS is (Aug 2021) £34.30 ($47.10) EACH.
One of the beauties of the NHS is that they have enormous buying power, so they tell the drugs companies what they are willing to pay, not the other way around.
Not just that. We have NICE (National Institute of Clinical Effectiveness) operating alongside. So when Pharmaceutical's tweak their drugs, so that they remain under patent and therefore can't be copied by 'Generic' pharma companies at a far lower price, the NICE evaluates whether or not the 'tweak' actually delivers better clinical outcomes, and if they are worth the additional cost (for example is a 'tweak' worth thousands of £'s in costs if it only delivers, on average, a couple of days more life expectancy in the worst possible circumstance i.e. end of life), then recommends which drugs are prescribed by Dr's. Pharma companies hate this as it peels away a lot of the BS around 'new' drugs and keeps them honest.
@@dogsnads5634 It's "National Institute for Health and Care Excellence", not Effectiveness.
Thats why a drug company was just fined for selling medicines to thenhs at extortionate prices
@@gilly9666 That's the point ..they get caught and fined. There was a case a few years ago where most of the major pharma companies were fined hundreds of millions for overcharging...(specifically price collusion).
@@dogsnads5634, it's the mutt's nuts.
If you’d broken your hip here, your bill for the ambulance, lost time at work, surgery ,hospital stay and aftercare such as physio would have been……..ZERO.
Also that is an emergency
Biggest cost would have been lucozade and tv access fees.
if he had an accident and broke his hip in nz not only would it be an emergency, everything would be free as our health system is based on the uk system plus he would receive free follow up care like physio and he would get 80% of his wages thru accident compensation corporation.
Also his sick pay of from work would of been better.
@Aussie Pom all of that can be had in the U.K. too. Plus none of our wildlife wants us dead. So that’s a W for the U.K. 😂😂
I worked out how much me and my partner pay each year for the NHS. It is about £2200, for 2 adults with long term conditions and a 16 year old. That covers GP's, prescriptions, ambulances, Dental and Opticians for my son, visits to hospital, Consultants and all surgery and a £7k diabetic pump.
That's about £2 each a day, there's no Co-Pay. What a absolute bargain 👍.
…. and it’s pay related.
Yep, my house pays a little more because we earn more. Since we came to Britain 4.5 years ago, we have paid well over £8,000 into the NHS, but only used about £150 of services between eye tests for kids, Covid tests, etc. We rarely use it, others need to a lot but us all paying a share means everyone has it.
@@nhugh23 ..and there's no saying that, God forbid, anyone of you should fall ill or seriously ill at some point or another, or develop a long-term condition, where indeed others may then be contributing to your situation.
Worked in the nhs for 35 years and was so proud up until the last 5 yrs when i had burn out. Was loved , cherished and sometimes abused and misused by some. But...overwhelmingly the uk public are fiercely protective of their nhs. It is now a core fundamental belief that healthcare is free for all in most circumstances except some prescriptions although many are exempt. Yes there are waiting lists, yes they are going to be worse after covid, yes services are often shortstaffed, but few would change what they do as they feel a sense of pride in caring for their population free at the point of delivery.
You're all heroes Liz, badly let down by our politicians. Thanks for your work
Please read to the end. Don't jump to conclusion.
I think the word "Heroes" should not be used for people in the NHS.
Most of those I've known didn't enter healthcare for medals or independent recognition. They work because they really care about their fellow man in ways that I don't, I don't care about old Mrs x or Mr Y. I dont even really care about little Johnny and Jill.
I only care about my family and friends. I couldn't be a nurse or doctor even if I had the brains. I takes people like this nurse.
You will forever have my gratitude for your service to the NHS and the country, but I can't call you heroes because it just doesn't fit your calling.
I did first aid in the forces I cared for my mates if and when called if a matter of life or death had ever occurred I'd have done my bit if needed. But I'm no nurse. Its not my job 12hrs a day you truly are wonderful people a special breed, but a hero is usually some who does something heroic once maybe twice. Does a nurse say after two hours in AE that's it I've saved life twice time for me to go off now and get my medal! Of course not.
I didn't do the stupid clap thing either what a waste of time.
More money would have been better than the PM and the opposition standing outside their doors with a stupid grin saying oh the voters love this!
No Sorry, Pay increase would have served better.
My Grandparents were born in 1890, my parents were mid 20s before the NHS came into being my Bro and I heard all the Horror stories of people dying of what we call silly sniffles or silly accidents.
We boys were told in no uncertain terms shut up, stop moaning be thankful that you will be seen by a Doctor, when, is a bonus that comes by waiting patiently.
Someone far worse off than you needs to be seen Now!
Sit down and wait your turn.
We did, still do.
I've been a cab driver for 30 years everytime I get a nurse or doctor i give them a personal, spoken thank you from me.
Just to say I really appreciate them.
@@andrewmstancombe1401 that whole clap shit was a joke, and the 1% pay rise in England? The government need lined up and shot. Even the 4% raise in Scotland is bitter sweet as for the last 15 years its been below inflation raises anyway.
While doctors are paid fairly well, nurses and many others are paid relatively shit. Its criminal ans the lack of government funding only serves to degrade service until the morons are begging for privatisation. Oldest trick in the book.
While the clapping, hero calling useless virtue signalling is shit, there is no doubt through this pandemic the world's medical staff have given a heroic effort. Insane shifts, exhaustion, isolation, high personal risk of infection etc. Its certainly worth acknowledgement. I wish I could select what my tax contribution goes to. Health and education all the way.
@@jackpowell9276 I think the clap for carers was a good thing when it was just the public. Because the way I see it is, it was a way for the public to thank them, or at least show their gratitude. I wanted to show my own gratitude to them and that clap was the only way I really could (I'm too broke to donate anything, I'd love to if I could, I'm just not in the position to right now). Of course, paying them more money would be a much better way to thank them but the public aren't in control of that. There's not much I or anyone else can do to pay them more money except campaign for it. Which I wholly support.
It's when the government got involved with it that pissed me off. That's when it became a joke. That's when it became meaningless.
@@andrewmstancombe1401 never thkught once of myself as a hero and dont think anyone i worked with did either. It was our job and we were proud to be part of something which sometimes was incredibly frustrating , had annoying people in it, was bounced zround from election to election depending on who got in. I dont think any soldier, fireman, policeman etc goes to work and thinks of themselves as heroes. I never participated in the clap for nhs either. It was what we were there to do. There zre many people who are carers who arent paid and care for someone for 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week without help. They are the heroes. Therr are many heroes in society, eveb cab drivers! The point i was making was we were proud of the nhs and what we were doing. We dont look for thanks. We get paid well to do our job. Have pretty darn good terms and conditiins. Used to have a bloomin great pension. We get recognised that way. I used to challenge staff when they moaned about paynetc and szy you try working in the big wide world, you dont get 3 months full sick pay!
However all this was free for the individuals. We were proud to be part of a system that was beloved by the nation and admired bynthe rest of the world. I actually think everyone is a hero
“Illness is neither an indulgence for which people have to pay, nor an offence for which they should be penalised, but a misfortune, the cost of which should be shared by the community” - Aneurin Bevan, Father of the NHS
Intersting video. I'm UK based and my daughter is profoundly disabled and recently contracted pneumonia and a collapsed lung. We had two first reponse vehicles and two ambulances come to our home. Cost zero. Transported to hospital. Cost zero. Seven days in intensive care. Cost zero. When a loved one is seriously ill the last thing you need to worry about is the cost. NHS are the best thing ever and I will be forever thankful to them.
It sounds so simple, the founding principles of the NHS: That it meet the needs of everyone. That it be free at the point of delivery. That it be based on clinical need, not ability to pay.
Average Amercian pays 28.5% of their income in various taxes. The average Brit pays 31.8%, and gets one hell of a lot more for it. I've lived in both countries and know what I'm talking about!
We don't "opt out" of the NHS if we have private insurance. We still pay towards the NHS within our taxes and we have access to it. It's a choice where we can either take it out ourselves or we get it through our employer, but we still pay for the NHS which is as it should be. If you have an emergency, (accident, heart attack) the ambulance will automatically take us to an NHS emergency room (A&E).
Also if you had an operation or procedure privately that went wrong- you usually then go on to get NHS care (as there are far more specialists for emergencies in the NHS then private)
UK Citizen here, I had heart pains one Friday morning, taken to hospital in Ambulance and recieved an Angiogram same day, didn't find much, stayed in Hospital over the weekend and transferred up to a bigger specialised Hospital Monday morning (St George's in London) there another Angiogram performed, which developed into an Angioplasty (stent put in) as blockage found, transferred back to local hospital for recovery and released 2 days later. Cost to me: Zero. Time in Hospital: 6 days.
wonder how much that would be in the USA?
Seen a few of these videos now and they're always shocking. As much as the NHS gets slagged off I wouldn't trade it for other systems in the vast majority of countries around the world and unfortunately the US is one of them.
The NHS are amazing, the care and comfort from the first visit through to discharge from hospital is truly GREAT.
@@ChrisReadUK Tbh, I have seen the absolute worst care from the NHS during this pandemic. I love the NHS BUT people are correct when they say that ALOT of wards were empty during the pandemic, beds that could and should have been made available.
@@thetruthwillout9094 There were good reasons for this medically during a pandemic but bugger the pandemic eh I want this wart on my forehead removed NOW !!
@@thetruthwillout9094 that’s a tad disingenuous, of course beds were empty and for good reason. Not only does limiting the number of none covid patients help prevent them becoming a covid statistic, but when you have the majority of your nursing resources focused on the influx of high risk covid patients, there’s less opportunity to service the rest.
That being said, the NHS was still operating outpatient services, stuff that needed to be done but didn’t require beds/onsite care.
I'd be terrified to visit the USA and get sick. I wouldn't survive the cost.
Also, in Scotland that is part of the UK, we don't pay a penny for any medications prescribed by a Doctor, also, eye examinations for wearing glasses is free also.
Truth is it practically is in England as well. 90% of prescriptions in England are actually issued FOC. The remainder are £9.35 per prescription (c$12-13). These are only paid by adults (18-67), in full time employment, above a certain income level. Even then for that group a lot of prescriptions for long term conditions are exempt (i.e. insulin), or if you're pregnant/recently have given birth.
For eye tests its free for children, anyone in full time education, unemployed or pensioned. But even then if you have a family history of eye conditions its free. And if you use VDU's ar work your employer will pay. For the small number of people who have to pay its around £20 for an eye exam (about $27). Glasses are also free/subsidised for children, people in education, unemployed/low income and pensioned (albeit the choice is limited).
Should add....if you're in one of the groups who have to pay for prescriptions you can buy a 'Prescription Prepayment Card', known as a PPC. It's £120 per year (c$160) and covers you for as many prescriptions as you need...so there is no reason why anyone should ever pay more than £120 per year (this can also be charged monthly to avoid a large one off payment).
@@dogsnads5634 I pay £10 a month for PPC and that covers me for an arm full of meds that would probably cost over $2000 a month in the good old USA.
Ok, fair point, would it be possible without the UK population in general? Combined, over 65 million souls. That has to include all other vital services. Scotland gets to make a choice. What price independence?
Medical help is a human right for all my friend
No is not
@@meatfeast335 in the civilised world it is
@@statosphereonline2008 why should it be a human right
@@meatfeast335 Oh, I don't know, maybe because no one deserves to suffer in sickness or injury because they haven't got enough money. Maybe because choosing between losing your house or being unable to afford to eat for that week shouldn't be a choice people have to make in order to receive medical treatment to stop suffering or to save their life. Maybe because how you suffer if hit by a car is the same as how I would suffer if hit by a car and the amount of money in your bank account shouldn't dictate whether you are made destitute by your treatment. This is the modern world.
All other services are provided in the US through tax. From sewage treatment to road paving, to police and fire brigade services. Why is the most significant service, the health and wellbeing of the population, some how different?
The right to be happy is tied closely to being healthy enough to enjoy your life and to achieve happiness without being hampered by sickness or illness, just as the right to security is and to not live in fear. The universality of suffering is what demands that medical treatment should be universally accessible.
@@statosphereonline2008 I get your point, and I wholeheartedly agree. But some people, especially on the American right, don't understand simple things like "rights" (unless it comes to guns, or bitching about how someone else lives their life).
Fun fact, the US is the *only* country on the planet, to not sign the UN memorandum stating food is a human right.
If they can't get their shit together enough to admit that humans need food to live, therefore it should be a right, how well do you think the discussion about healthcare is going to go?
The NHS is awesome - 17 years ago I found out I was seriously ill with a 40% chance of living. I had to undergo 6 months of treatment so severe I was unable to work for an additional 12 months afterwards. The medication alone cost in the region of £3000.00 per month for 6 months, let alone the time I was in hospital either undergoing surgery or just seeing medical staff. The person overseeing my treatment was not just a doctor or a consultant, but a professor who was top of their field. All at absolutely zero cost to me.
to be fair, weekly national contributions paid for it. we all take the NHS for granted. Major surgery, or, otherwise, same costs. all free at point of treatment. NHS saved my life 2016. got extra 5 years and counting.
@@donaldcrawford5577 Glad to hear it mate - hope you have plenty more years yet.
Had similar from an accident with a car in '98. Over 8 months in hospital - coma, tube fed, the works (even caught the lovely MRSA!). No idea how many lots of £100,000 it cost, but also at zero cost to me.
@@davidwallin7518 It's a wonderful system.
I've never used any hospital services significantly, thankfully. And am delighted to pay taxes to ensure that those that need it, get it for free.
It's refreshing to see an American question the system.
I'm glad to hear an American that can see past the American BS that's told to them 👏 .. I could go on a massive rant.. I'll just say UK method of health care is awesome and I'm very proud of it 🇬🇧 and our friends across the pond deserve better 👊
Many of them don't like the idea of it being 'socialised' healthcare. If only they realised they have 'socialised' armed forces!
@@c_n_b I totally understand but as an English man I've never heard that term before in 51 years of my life until seeing comments from Americans on RUclips 😂😂 .. And that word doesn't change what an awesome healthcare system that it is.. Probably if it's that bad a thing then you should stay of social platforms and social media etc etc 😂😂
If you’d have broken your hip living in the UK it wouldn’t have cost you anything to have it operated on and then your physiotherapy and aftercare wouldn’t cost you anything either.
@@irenemcgrath7739 IT do cost you . We really must get away from the idea that healthcare is free. You have paid for it with N I contributions taking out OF your pay nothing is free
@@colinsalter3516 It's a bit of a myth that just NI pays for the NHS. NI would not be enough to pay for the health service as NI payments also qualify people for state pensions and some other benefits. The NHS is paid for from general taxation (including NI but also including other forms of taxation as well, such as income tax, VAT etc.)
Part of the reason in the US of tying health insurance to jobs is, to be blunt, to make employees terrified of losing their insurance. It gives employers a huge advantage when bargaining with employees. Add to that the fire at will laws, anti-union attitudes, terrible sick leave, holiday entitlement and general worker protections and rights and the US feels like a dystopian nightmare when viewed from Europe.
I am not sure what the answer is. It's not as if US politics are likely to offer a solution.
Tying jobs to health insurance keeps Americans as serfs. Land of the free, my arse.
The answer is simple. The USA needs an NHS of its own. Bigger than any pharmaceutical company with a NICE that tells pharmaceutical companies how much they'll pay for drugs based on their efficacy, not how much is demanded. Give employees at least 4 weeks paid holidays, not including national holidays that should be paid leave anyway. Paid maternity & paternity leave. Free, safe childcare. Free education and you take a huge strain off millions of people straight away. It's not rocket science
I actually laughed at "Both health care systems have pros and cons."
Infographics, the place to go when you want just 60% accuracy.
My GF has an epi-pen and it cost her £9.35 with a prescription.
Yes I have a lot of American friends and the amount of money they have to pay for the exact same medication like epi pens is staggering, compared to other countries, I feel so bad for them the worry and the stress of finding the excess cash to buy medication if it isn't covered on insurance.
if an epi pen is for diabetes the epi pen is free along with all other meds as diabetes is a 'listed lifelong condition' that means all prescriptions are free..
@@truthseeker3618 It breaks my heart when I have seen retired people in the USA, who can't pay for prescription drugs, and have to decide which they can purchase. The pharmacists just standing there waiting to be paid for what they can afford. It's inhumane. How do they sleep at night. If they call themselves Christian, do they query, did Christ charge for the miracles he performed?
@@iriscollins7583 It must be heartbreaking, we used to watch a programme about called Dr G who done post mortem of sudden deaths and the amount of people who died due to heart problems,and high blood pressure was astounding, its only then we looked into the USA health care and found so many millions cannot afford regular news to treat these conditions it's truly sad in this day and age. We are very lucky here all children overs 60's and people out of work get all prescription meds for free. Every item of medication it set at around $12.00 regardless of cost to the government so epi pens, inhalers etc are all $12.00. I really hope the leaders all work towards a better solution xx
@@truthseeker3618 Not only are prescriptions here the equivalent of $13 (they've gone up recently), but over 90% of them are free (due to being under 18, over 65, having low income or having certain lifelong conditions). That is $13 per item, but if you need 4 or more items, you can buy a one month pre-payment for just under the cost of 4 items, which covers any number of items. A 12 month pre-payment costs just under $14 per month - again for any number of prescribed medications.
Although I live in Sweden now, I was born and raised in England. When I was younger, I had a sinus infection that turned pretty bad. Went to one hospital who took a look at me and said they needed to put me in an ambulance to send me to a specialist department in another hostpital.
They did that, I went to see a specialist in this other hospital (after waiting for about 20 minutes) and he spent 2 minutes looking at me before telling me they were sending me in for an operation.
Less than 2 hours later I was under the knife, spent the next week in hospital recovering, being monitored and checked, having various procedures done to make sure my recovery was going in the right way.
At the end of it all, they sent me off with some meds to take and instructions on what to do, what to be mindful of, signs that I should look out for in case there were prolems.
I didn't pay a single penny.
Nothing.
Not one bit.
You could argue that I paid for it via national insurance contributions, but that's such a small amount that's taken out of your pay that I doubt it would be able to pay for the medication alone in the US, never mind the multiple hospital visits, ambulance, specialist consultation, operation, recovery etc.
I dread to think what that would have been financially if I were in the US.
You are welcome
@@clockworku-boat1692 What did you do for it?
Paid the taxes that paid for it.. That is all
@@clockworku-boat1692 All of us do, it's human to help. They don't need to thank us. Weird thing to say mate.
You make it sound as though I didn't pay those taxes myself either. I'm still a UK national, and this was before I moved away. My point was that NI contributions are such a miniscule part of a monthly/yearly salary that the amont I would have paid when this all happened from those contributions would have been barely worth counting, unlike the cost that would have been crippling if this had happened in the US.
I cant imagine an accident or illness bankrupting me.
Never had any issues with the nhs everything where i live works well thankfully.
My dad lost his leg to diabetes a cpl years ago. He was in hospital and rehab for about 6 months. Got a new leg and wheelchair with zero bill, not even for prescriptions.
I dread to think of the cost if we lived in the usa
Give it time the Tory party are running it down and about to appoint Dido Harding as head of the service, she is married to someone who is extremely vocal about bringing an insurance based system to the UK.
Yeah, that definitely would of cost thousands. Good luck to your dad
@@flucazade 17,000 beds cut since 2010, no wonder it was/is creaking under COVID pressure. 100k nursing vacancies etc.
I'm English so appreciate the nhs in every way possible! However having lived in New Zealand for 10 years I have to say that the Kiwi health care is better still. Not necessarily in all aspects but please please look up the ACC system here , it's fabulous.. ✌️
It’s bloody disgusting the way their system works, it should be ‘health over wealth’ not the other way round!
Ambulance is considered an emergency service. In the US do you have to pay for a fireman to put your house out or a cop to arrest your burglar?
Most places in the US, ambulance services are privatised, and not state funded like the fire department and police. It really is insane how little the government cares about the people there.
You can’t “opt out" of the NHS, you still pay towards it. The term opt out was wrong, you can just choose to have additional private heath cover in addition to having access to the NHS.
You are right in that you can’t “opt out” of NHS, but that’s because it’s still there if you need it, particularly if there is an issue with any treatment you get privately, the NHS will be there for you.
You can't "opt out" of funding the military in the States either - or anything else tax goes towards. I'm fairly sure that's how it works in most, if not all, countries.
It's great that you can't opt out because if you're caught up in a real emergency you're covered without added expenses.
Paying for an ambulance, come on its ridiculous.
Do they have to pay for a fire engine?
Technically you can opt out of the NHS, but only when you move to another country and need to prove to your new country that you are entitled to their system by showing you are no longer covered by the NHS.
The NHS is FREE here in the UK
I sprained my ankle playing basketball (in the UK). My friends called an ambulance, they took me to the hospital, gave me an X-ray, found out it wasn't broken and only badly sprained, they gave me crutches to take home with me, and then later on the physiotherapy to get back walking.
Didn't have to pay a penny.
I remember being genuinely amazed when I found out that people in America have to pay for an ambulance - and £2500? It's absolutely mind blowing. To be honest one of the things that puts me off the idea of going on holiday to the USA is the thought of getting injured while I'm there. No thanks.
NHS has waiting lists for free treatment, while in the US demand is limited by pricing people out of even going for treatment.
Yes there are waiting lists, but they aren't that long, usually it's days to weeks rather than months to years. Any treatment that is urgent, doesn't have a waiting list. The maximum waiting time for elective care, is 18 weeks from when your GP (family doctor) refers you for treatment. Most NHS trusts aim to treat people well before this limit to cover for unforseen problems.
The NHS has waiting lists for non-urgent treatment.
If you need an ambulance, you get the ambulance.
I had a breast cancer scare, and I was at the GP in a couple of hours, at the clinic in just over a week, and had the all clear less than a month from my first call.
And for more minor stuff that likely only needs one course of meds, you can head to a walk-in centre and be in and out in under an hour.
Bloody hell. Having all that worry over paying for healthcare would make anyone sick anyway. No thank you.
Thank you NHS, saved both my dad and brother🌈
One of the reasons that medicine is cheaper here for the NHS, is that NICE buys it for the country and get bulk/better deals, whereas each hospital in the us has to buy individually
Dear E.B., I understand your description of the cost of an EpiPen as being "stupid"; I would call it 'criminal'.
I once watched a similar video to the second one of Americans reacting to the cost of healthcare in the UK and they were about as surprised as Brits reacting to US health costs. What set the two apart, however, is when the interviewer asked if they would like a system similar to the NHS, their was a lot of opposition, especially from the older generations. One person didn't like the idea of increased taxes to fund a government run healthcare system. Another literally said, in these exact words: "If something's free, it probably isn't worth it." And a good few others were equally opposed to the idea of being taken over by a socialist regime.
I could probably rant on about this as much as anyone, but I will just say that last year, my dad had to have some pretty major surgery. One of his kidneys had grown a tumour which, while not cancerous, did have to be removed. About 3 or 4 months later, he had to have his bladder and prostate removed as that had turned cancerous, though still in the very early stages. If not for the NHS, he might not have made it through the rest of the year, as if things weren't already bad enough. We, the British people will always be thankful and grateful for what we have in the NHS, despite its shortcomings and I'm pretty sure we all hope America eventually adopts a similar model.
As well as notifying tax and socialism to drive people away, I remember a US politician stating the UK nhs routinely kills people deliberately in hospital death bed wards.. pushing anything to keep the current US system no doubt
The crazy thing is the US spends more in taxes than the U.K. on healthcare
Some people in Britain moan about waiting times in the NHS, I'd say to them "go live in another country, you'll soon be back."
The first video was incorrect at the end when he said that there were upsides & downsides to both systems. There are no upsides to the US system, unless perhaps you are an insurance company.
Of course there ARE upsides to the US system. Instant appointments with a doctor (hard to get in the UK), same-day test results (usually at least a week in the UK), no queues for non-essential operations. But even with those, I'd rather stick with the NHS than pay silly money in the US.
@@calibrax you can get instant doctors appointments on the nhs if it is serious, i was pretty ill a few years back, called the doctors at 7am and was being checked up by 8am. If its not that serious, then you dont really need an instant appointment. We do it on triage in the uk, which means the most seriously ill people get seen before those who are not as serious, very good system imo
@@calibrax tbf you can get same day appointments and tests if you need them (other then tests that literally can’t be performed in a day). But most people don’t NEED them
Mind blown! The wealthiest country in the world wont look after its own people… Crazy times Alan.
They focus more on their Military, crazy .
America: Owning a gun is a right, healthcare is a privilege.
Most of the Planet: Healthcare is a right, owning a gun is a privilege.
Need I say more?
Owning a gun is never a privilege unless you're at war or a farmer. Owning a gun in a society says a lot about the society you live in.
@@DarkDemonicDating666 It is 100% a privilege. Guns have use other than for soldiers or farmers. They are used for recreational activity or sport, similar to archery. Owning a gun for recreational purposes is completely fine. Just because it is used to kill, doesn't mean they cannot be admired for their craftmanship, the same way swords and blades are.
@@joeparker3815 100% agree from the mythical (if you are a flat earther) land of OZ.
That was so interesting and it's good that you tell the truth, here in the UK yes you pay for it in tax but you never notice it as it's the norm from day one, i have to say I've seen programmes on the TV where so many Americans can be very sick and unable to see a doctor because of the cost, that's no way to live with the worry if you become sick, stay safe mate 🍻🙏🙏🙏🇬🇧🇱🇷
and those taxes (specifically National Insurance is the name of the tax for the non-British people reading this) also gives you a pension when you retire. It's arguably not _enough_ but it's something that'll help you out.
Also worth a mention, you need that emergency care in the UK while on holiday. We got you emergency care is free for everyone.
All paramedics have stories of reassuring Americans that they will not be charged for the ambulance or anything that they need until they leave hospital.
And the charges we charge for non nhs treatment aren't nearly as high either.
I used to be a social worker at a Children's Hospital and through the summer reassuring worried American tourists with sick or injured children was a regular occurrence. I once had a teacher from a large party of teenagers from school in New York State turn up with a shopping list of emergency med's needs because he'd left the bag with the all the kids med's in a hotel in London. He'd brought a box file with all the medical information and insurance documents and laid them all out on the floor in the A&E, he was such a state of panic I thought he was going to have an heart attack. We gave him three months supply just to be on the safe side, I swear it took about five minutes of me constantly replying we don't charge for children to his questions about how much it would cost before he got the message.
Yeh great, it's the National Health Service not the International fucking Health Service.
Actually NHS services should only be free tor UK nationals and residents…the problem is there is no incentive for hospitals to employ staff to collect paymemt from people who receive treatment whilst visiting the UK, as they would probably spend as much trying to collect it as they would receive in actual payment. Unlike the US, hospitals in the UK don’t need to invoice and process payments from insurance companies so employing staff to do this just to recover the cost of treatment for international visitors would be a financial burden. It is well known that the NHS is subject to abuse from international visitors but I don’t know what the answer is, as we clearly would not expect doctors to turn away people genuinely in need of emergency treatment whilst visiting the UK.
I’m from the Uk and a few years ago I had cancer, all my treatment, diagnostic tests and radiotherapy was free (apart from my tax contributions). It breaks my heart when I hear women with the same cancer that are American and have to pay.
You can't opt out of the nhs.
...why would you?
Opt out is probably the wrong phrasing, you can opt to use private facilities in order to speed up waiting time.
But if you don't want to wait or if you want a private room - there's BUPA!
I work in a pharmacy in the UK, the standard fee is £9.35 per item on a prescription regardless of what it is. The number of people that COMPLAIN about having to pay it makes my blood boil!
Don't forget, if you need regular long term medication you can get it even cheaper and there are plenty who pay nothing because of age or financial circumstances
issue is its an unfair system. example my dad he has only just started getting his meds free, my mum has had her med free for 20 plus years. difference one lives in England, other in wales. i was shocked when i first got charged when moved to England. and that's before taking in to account i have long term health issues what will only get worse. should be same for all in uk. everything else is good except the parking charge con, and anpr cameras to fine you for not parking but spending over 40 min looking for a space and fail to find one so you leave. not good if you have reg hospital appointments. should be free for all or a reduced amount but all pay something with meds. but one thing i will say is ive had two major spine surgery's, hate to know that cost that be in usa but prob over 100k
Just saw your video. I live in Canada with “free” healthcare. Yes, our wait times for non-essential services can drag on a bit. After years of increasing pain I decided to go for a knee replacement. From the first appointment to the surgery took about 6 months but it was not an emergency. My cost?? 2 days of parking. That included several weeks of physio after the surgery. My father in law fell and broke a hip. He was rushed by ambulance to a hospital - between the emergency surgery and other health issues he spent 2 weeks in the hospital. Physio at home - the only cost was the parking lot. So yes, we have to wait if it’s not essential but if it’s serious there is no waiting!
A country’s Healthcare shouldn’t be a business that automatically leaves the poor at a massive disadvantage. $40 just for the doctor to place the baby on your chest WTF!!!!!!!
Why not?
We are so lucky throughout my life as I approach my 70's I have had my health care fully supported by the NHS
When you said 70,000 dollars I literally stopped looking where I was walking and stubbed my toe on the sofa. It's such a shame that a leading country won't treat its citizens as equals when it comes to health care. Enjoyed that video, very informative
I love the NHS with all my heart, it truly is a national treasure BUT the way it is run is wrong. Companies take the piss out of prices when selling to the NHS.
There used to be a more centralised purchasing system when we had regional & area health authoritities. Now we have more 'accountable' NHS trusts, they all have their local purchasing systems. A region telling a group of suppliers that you want a million doses of a drug, puts the buyer in the dominant position, A local trust telling them that it wants a hindred doses, puts the suppliers in the dominant position.
I just want to second what they're saying: thank you to everyone who works for the NHS, and bonus thanks for getting us through this pandemic. Keep up the good work!
I've lived in the UK for four years and in 2018, shortly after I arrived, my husband was diagnosed with diabetes. He has to take medicine every single day. We've never had to pay so much as a dime for it, nor his doctor's visits. I'll gladly pay all my taxes as long as I need to keep the NHS the way it is. NHS is a blessing.
I recently watched Michael Moore’s Sicko for the first time, a fascinating analysis of the differences between our health systems. I’m sure Moore divides opinion but it truly opened my eyes to just how unfair the American system is. I’d rather wait a few weeks for a non-essential treatment and have free care at the point of delivery than fall prey to the vultures in the insurance companies.
I’ve enjoyed many of your reactions and was moved by the emotion you so obviously struggled to keep in about this issue. Keep up the good work sir
The US, the country that abolished slavery, for others in its country but not itself (government) - “got profits to think about after all.”
I like the US and have visited, but I’m sorry, your government sucks, and it keeps causing problems for the it’s citizens every year. It’s meddling with other countries has had direct consequences. There is only some much another country’s people will take before there is going to be some blowback - for example when they fly planes into symbols of American capitalism.
Audible "WHAT" at $70,000 for surgery, followed by another at $7000 for ambulance!!!??? With my M.S. and medications/appointments etc etc, I guess I'd have to suffer at home. NHS, I gladly pay my tax for the wonderful service
I agree, with the list of medical issues wrong with me, I'm thankful I get NHS care, in the US I would be left to die so I wasn't a burden upon their system.
$7k actually for the ambulance
Broke my wrist in the 1990s - total cost to me? £5 train fare into town when I went to get my plaster-cast removed...
Had a minor op in 1999 to get some cysts removed from my neck - no payment.
Cataract operation two years ago - NHS provided everything free (anti-inflammatory and antibiotic eyedrops, eye-patch for sleeping). Total cost to me < £5 for some medical-grade tape to secure the eye-patch.
@@spoilers4017 changed, thank you
@@jasonpeacockbassist no worries I’m just astounded how expensive it is regardless
Great to see an American with some common sense regarding Universal Healthcare. What people in the US don't realize is that the UK government sets the price of all prescriptions drugs to be sold in the UK. If that company wants to sell, they have to sell at the government price. Also, the government doesn't subsidize the companies - they sell at the price, or not. My argument has always been that the companies are still making a profit, otherwise they won't sell to the UK healthcare system.
I'm a Brit living in the US and over 20 years ago, my father had a stroke while visiting my brother. He spent 2 weeks in my brothers local hospital, then he was transferred by ambulance to his own local hospital for another month. After that he was allowed home and had an ambulance pick him up to go to therapy, then bring him home because he was wheelchair bound. My parents then decided to move to where my other brother lived in the south of England. The local authority there, found them a flat in a retirement community, and refurbished it to be wheelchair accessible, as well as converting the bathroom to one that could be used by a person in a wheelchair. Because of hos lack of mobility, healthcare professionals came in every morning to get him out of bed, wash him, and get him ready for the day. At night, they came back and got him ready for bed. NOT A PENNY WAS BILLED TO MY PARENTS. Sadly, my father only lasted about another 5 years. They could not have afforded that kind of care in the US, even though they liked the US and would have loved to have retired here. I'm glad they stayed in England.
You have restored my faith in Americans, at least some of yall are aware of what's going on.
The NHS have long waiting lists for non urgent operations but there are private hospitals that will perform immediate surgery, at a price !
But ambulances and any procedures whether short term or long term are free at the point of service ( paid for in general taxes).
But that's exactly the point it's non-urgent operations that have a long waiting time, if you needed an emergency heart by-pass it would get done immediately, patients are treated in order of priority first then by waiting time.
In my 60's, never spent a night in hospital, hardly used it in my life - and yet I am more than happy to have paid in and keep paying in for those not as lucky as me, health-wise. Well, I've had 5 kids that didn't cost a penny, so it's not quite true to say that I've had nothing out of it :)
The health of the general public should be at the top of any governments agenda. Unfortunately greed dictates otherwise
And the worship of the almighty dollar - the church of ATM as Chris Rock put it.
Love your reactions! I have seen Americans complaining about socialist health care because they don't want to be taxed more. What they don't get is that their private insurance normally costs more than what they would be taxed on, its nuts!
This part always got to me aswell. It's honestly insane how much of a bubble people can live in
They also already pay more in tax for healthcare than we do. That one really blows their minds.
www.statista.com/statistics/283221/per-capita-health-expenditure-by-country/
Australia has health care for all as well. I've had genetic breast cancer 3 times, total cost for Drs, oncologists, chemo, radio, surgery, plastic surgeons, Hospital etc...$0. My usual taxes pay for it. If I was in the US I'd be bankrupt or dead.
I think it was probably the colonial influence from Britain as most commonwealth countries have the same System as U.K.
I think the NHS is the best thing about this country.
There is more to Great Britain mate but agree NHS is up there.
NHS used to be but the government has sold it off the pocket the money
@@alanshayler941 i work in the NHS mate, where as, some private provisions it aint exactly sold off
Another thing to note, which I think really highlights how good the NHS is, is that when I had private medical coverage through my job, I still just went and used the NHS most of the time. The service was as good and it meant I didn't have any annoying paperwork to complete for the private coverage.
Also, the same doctors generally see you in the private sector as you would see in the NHS, as many consultants have private practices as well (they have to perform a certain amount of hours in the NHS per week or month and they can then work out a period of time - an evening, or a 4 hour slot during the week to see private patients). So, essentially, the same expertise, but in nicer surroundings and quicker). There ARE consultants who ONLY work in the private sector, but they are all NHS trained.
Those NHS wait times are a bit unrealistic, I've never had to wait that long for anything. That's probably an occasional worst case scenario for something that really isn't that important. If there is an issue with socialism, why is your police force and fire dept public sector, maybe that should be private sector too? Maybe also roads and military too?
After having many years of chronic illnesses I'm under the impression that waiting times are more dependent on the illness/injury rather than the system itself. Simple fracture clinic stuff, yes that's pretty good but I have spinal cord injuries and associated neurological issues and due to the speciality of that it does take longer to get appointments in that field. One other thing that's worth mentioning is that there is a limit on waiting times although sometimes they can get you into a private hospital so they can get the waiting times down.
Anything that takes a long time to get done isn’t because of the NHS itself, it’s because we don’t have enough specialists in some fields.
Making the system private wouldn’t suddenly magic up doctors to solve the problem
Thing is we use the same drugs, bought from big pharma in the UK, they sell it to us at a profit but we refuse to pay the inflated prices the US pays, they still supply it to us because it is still profitable, just lower margins
Plus when we bargain we are doing it for a potential 65 million customers.. Think of the bargaining power for 360 million in a single payer system?
@@seanhoare7639 very true
The NHS is amazing. As well and on the subject of ambulance costs, it's worth noting that our air ambulance and Lifeboats are charity organisations and also free (plus mountain rescue and many other essential services).
So do you have to pay for the fire service in the US as well?
I suffered a Heart attack 10 years ago, taken from home to my local A&E by Ambulance, Flown to a specialist Heart hospital 75 miles away by Helicopter, was rushed into theatre to have a Stent operation done, then told I needed a Heart Bypass operation, Which was done the following week. Since then I have been on Heart medication and take 10 different pills each day for the last 10 years, this has cost me Zero, Nada, Zilch not a single Penny, thank God I live in the UK. I Love the NHS.
Yes, I have never understood the mistrust of 'socialist' programs when Americans already have so many. Taxes go to 'socialist' programs - transportation networks, civil engineering projects like dams and bridges, Police forces, the military, the US Postal service, schools, some types of housing and medical services, the National Parks. No citizen can afford these things alone, so the state (large or small 's') pools and distributes the resources so that these services are possible.
Even a business paying it's workers a pension scheme is partly socialist - all workers contribute a little, then gain a greater return as an incentive to choose that company to work for.
On the case of medicine, it's mostly decades of misinformation to make sure that the money keeps flowing.
It's the same for guns; if you engrain in every child that a murder rifle is actually a freedom and security rifle, then they refuse to accept that the alternative can be true. They believe that society can't be safe without them and they convince you that you will die on a waiting list with public healthcare.
Exactly. It's not that Americans are stupid, they've just got a really huge propaganda juggernaut that wants to keep the lobbying money in the politicians pocket. It's not the fault of Joe Public.
Here in the UK we are intensely proud of our NHS. The £9 prescription cost only applies to England. Scotland and Wales get their prescriptions for free. Even then, anyone with repeat prescriptions in England can get them for free too.
Free in Northern Ireland too
Erm my repeats aren't free at all. As for the £9 prescription cost that's per line not per prescription I had one single prescription cost me over £80
@@tonydeeks5756 sorry, my mistake
@@tonydeeks5756 ..mine are per prescription, never heard of per line
@@glastonbury4304 ask next time your at your gp theyll tell you the same
We all look after each other. If one of us gets sick or injured we are looked after. Proud of our NHS here in England
Th NHS is the most loved and appreciated institution in the UK. Most of my relatives are American and understandably hate the American system compared to the NHS.
Ex NHS worker, the NHS is something to be really proud of, but it does get abused.Because I live in Wales prescriptions are free . It’s bad that American 🇺🇸 doesn’t have a similar scheme, but they will spend millions on weapons.🙄. My sister had cancer and they were brilliant.
I had to go to Morriston A+E not long ago, It was a 6 hour wait. I didnt mind one bit as there were some very poorly people waiting also who obviously needed to be seen before me. What I couldnt believe though, and still cant get my head around were the amount of people banging on the door where doctors and nurses were diagnosing and treating people, you could hear crying and people very obviously in a lot of pain the other side of that door, yet some folk in the waiting room seemed to think that the more they disturbed doctors and nurses the faster they would get seen, as if they were waiting for food in a takeaway, or waiting for a taxi ringing the company up complaining that their car wasnt here yet. I can not imagine the restraint and patience NHS staff must have. I couldnt do their job, even if I was competent, I would never be able to show such restraint and dignity. When I was seen, the doctor was such a lovely man and the ladies who xrayed me were excellent. It also occurred to me that they go through that every single day while at work, and its much much worse on weekends. If there is a god, I hope NHS staff also get to jump the que into heaven, not just supermarkets:)
@@j4stice746 I've had to go to A+E in the past and seen people do similar things it makes me wonder how many of them actually need to be there and can't wait to see there gp instead if they can manage to keep getting up to do that? The times when I have gone i have expected there to be a long wait because that's just the way it is and I know how lucky we are to have the nhs.
As a brit, I love the nhs, can't praise them enough. That said, I have gone private for 1 medical problem, it was non essential, and I have heard,from a few places, that they have a poor track record with this particular problem. Moreover, the private doctor I was speaking to, told me to get any tests I need done via my gp, so I don't have to spend an extortionate amount of money on them
The prescription cost is £9.30 per item on the prescription. Multiples of the same drug is still only £9.30
Free in Scotland
@@gordonmccallum1402 Free in Wales, too.
The benefits of a devolved parliament.
Freeto us wrinkles
@@geoffpriestley7001 as it should be! The elderly have done their bit for Queen and Country.
Growing up with the NHS it obviously seems normal. My cousin moved from England to Florida a few years back, and I couldn't believe the prices people are charged over there. The NHS does get some negativity , but I wouldn't give it up for the American system.
The NHS may not be perfect - but it's loved almost universally in the UK. I don't get the impression American people love their service. Enough said.
Re your hip accident; the initial accident treatment would be classed as essential and emergency. You'd get an ambulance to A&E, and treatment there immediately.
Any after-care, like physio for example, would be scheduled at some point afterwards and you'd be referred for it and appointment made that could take a month or two to come through.
You'd pay nowt at the point of delivery, and if you were released from hospital with medication the hospital would give you that but if you need medication as an outpatient that needs a prescription and is a tenner ish I think?
No prescription cost in Scotland. Remember.
Another important point: you continue to have an income while on sick leave.
@@stephanweinberger remember the quote from the formation of the UK's Welfare state that for a contribution of your taxes and a new payment to the State called the National Insurance stamp, the State would look after everyone from the cradle to the grave.
Last time I looked the US military budget was as much as the next seven countries combined. It has always baffled me how the US politicians can claim there isn't enough money for things and bring it round to tax increases, yet not one will address the elephant in the room!
Their military budget is there to give jobs to their defence industry, it creates millions of jobs, no politician in the states would ever get re-elected if he or she proposed cutting defence spending.
I live in Northern Ireland and will forever be grateful of the NHS. I had my first child at 23 and I was a single mum. Complications during delivery meant I had to have an emergency cesarean section this cost me nothing. My son was born and it was clear something wasn't right with his colour. They transferred him to a sister hospital by ambulance, this cost me nothing. I was then transferred to that hospital myself by ambulance as I just had surgery and it cost me nothing. I wont go into details but my son needed open heart surgery or he wouldn't survive. He had to be transferred again to the top children's hospital in Ireland and had to have a small keyhole surgery so he could be well enough for the journey This cost me nothing. He made the journey In an ambulance with a full team of doctors by his side. This cost me nothing. The next day we made our way there and our accommodation, food etc was ALL paid for by the NHS.
At 5 days old my son had his surgery there were complications and he was in theatre for 10 hours. His recovery time was longer than expected also. 2 weeks after surgery he was transferred back up to a hospital close to our home to finish his recovery.
In total my son has had 5 heart surgeries and we had to make that journey a few more times. Everything paid for by the NHS. He has needed a lot of medication over the years too and it costs me nothing. He is now 11 and is a healthy Normal kid. Imagine the cost of that all. The NHS is truly wonderful.
Nobody opts out of paying the NHS everyone pays in through tax whether you like it or not. You may pay for private healthcare as well as paying taxes for the NHS .
The narrator doesn't know what he's talking about, doesn't even know what NHS stands for.
He's obviously funded by the US government.
Same in the Netherlands. I can walk into any hospital or get any care whenever I need it but it does cost a monthlyfee. Just not comparable to what you'd pay when you get really sick.
Canada has an awesome healthcare system. I was hospitalized for 10. Almost died I was in ICU and my bill - NADA!
The nhs is the envy of the world. I pay 100 pound a month out of my wages. That covers everything. Complete piece of mind.
And that peace of mind is the crucial part. Imagine being ill, which is bad enough, then having the stress of worrying about the cost. Knowing you might lose everything you HAVE on top of being ill and not being able to work and earn money to pay for your care. It would be a nightmare. The peace of mind of having the NHS there for everyone is priceless.
And that peace of mind is the crucial part. Imagine being ill, which is bad enough, then having the stress of worrying about the cost. Knowing you might lose everything you HAVE on top of being ill and not being able to work and earn money to pay for your care. It would be a nightmare. The peace of mind of having the NHS there for everyone is priceless.
Here in the UK, We love our NHS... Critical Care is pretty well immediate, but as the video shows non-critical can take 4-8 weeks. We can also pay for Private Health insurance on top of our NHS care, this depends on age, but for a 40-year-old it is about £1500 per year extra, then you can have non-critical care in 1-2 days. The $12 maximum for drugs is per prescription, but you can pay £120 per year to have unlimited treatments and drugs when prescribed. It is very sad to hear that you guys are ripped off by big-pharm :-(
We get US manufactured drugs for a fixed price of $13, regardless of how much it costs UK taxpayers.
in australia we have medicare. I had a small stroke 3 years ago. 5 days in hospital (around the clock attention and tests), 3 Mri, 1 cat scan plus multiple heart and other tests. im 52 have paid medicare since the 80's. there was no bill. all i can say thanks to the docs and nurses and medicare
You don’t even have to pay the $12 mentioned for prescriptions in Scotland, it’s all free at point of use, yes you may wait a little longer for non emergency treatments but day to day the nhs is one of the wonders of the world!
Only because the English subsidise you, that will go once you leave the union.
You don't pay for prescriptions (in England) when you're child, either (or rather, your parents don't), and after 60, you don't pay for prescriptions, either. Oh, and basic eye tests are free over 60! There isn't much to be said about getting older but those two are definitely cool. I was delighted to discover this when I turned 60.
@@Jabber-ig3iw Boris Johnson...... need I say more?
Gotta love the NHS.
Was diagnosed with cancer in America when on holiday, bill $17k for 4hrs. Flew back home, had 13 cycles of chemo, 5 surgeries, radiotherapy, 5 months in hospital etc. Actually came out £35-40k better off through benefits and critical illness cover. Set me up for life.
You're right, the US lobbying laws need a serious reform and the sponsorship patches on their suits is genius.