Andy Warhol meet's Edie's Father "Fuzzy" Sedgwick. ---------------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER: I do not own "Factory Girl". No copyright infringement is intended.
i wish someone make a really iconic edie sedgwick biopic, im so excited to see sofia coppola's new priscilla presley's biopic "priscilla" and i want someone like sofia (tbh i want only sofia) to direct a new edie sedgwick biopic because i love edie so much and every movie directed by sofia coppola is aesthetically pleasing, well written and soundtracks are so freakin perfect ♡♡♡
Her father was a narcissistic terror. He bullied her her entire youth. By the time she got to the factory she was already damaged goods. Warhol just used what was left and molded it to his own vanity and then tossed her away when she was done. He did the same thing to Nico... I like him as an artist but I can't ignore those facts...Her whole life is very very sad
I recently watched an interview of Edie and Warhol, and these two actors just captured them perfectly: mannerisms, pitch of voice, everything down to a T. On a side note, I cringed at the molestation implication when the dad rubbed her arm. So awful but accurate, according to most accounts
Guy Pearce is a beautiful actor, I always admire his work. Sienna Miller was never better. It's kind of a dud of a movie overall, but wonderful performances.
According to the book "Edie" this is not how the meeting, and subsequent comment attributed to Duke Sedgwick, happened. So... not exactly archival footage.
That is completely wrong. This event was documented in the book "Edie." They met for drinks, and the meeting was noted to be brief. It was after Edie had left with Andy Warhol that Duke Sedgwick made a comment about Andy's sexual choices, and that line is not what was reported to have been said.
This story is true. Take in what is being shown. It's not for mere entertainment. These were people's lives and we should all learn from it instead of the idea of it being entertaining.
True. And never forget narcs are CHARMING. They only turn on you once you are close to them. He would be wearing a mask with Andy and then taking it off once he left.
According to the book "Edie," the meeting did not happen that way. Duke Sedgwick made the insulting comment ABOUT Andy Warhol AFTER Edie and Andy left the bar/lounge.
According to the book "Edie," that was not how the meeting of Andy Warhol and Duke Sedgwick happened; and that is not what the book quotes Duke as saying about Andy AFTER Edie and Andy left.
Tasteless classless & egregiously ill mannered sexual predator who was sexually involved with his own daughter attempts to denigrate the greastest living artist of the 20 th century. # epic fail
@@sapphasea hm more a exentric. A person need to have ALL the character traits to have " narcissistic personality dissorder". A person can seem superficial, but alot of that can also just be cultural from beeing a New York avantgarde elitist. To have NPD you also need to have zero empathy and lack the abillity to self reflect. Andy was not a NPD, but may have had some narcissistic traits thats not the same as NPD. On the other hand there are ALOT of artists/bohemians who also are NPD and who use the bohemian persona as a excuse to be a asshole/toxic. Her father was obviosly a asshole/toxic/narcissist and also has zero respect for her boundarys. And insulting Andy while at the same time saying to not make a " Scene" is so typicaly narcissists who are always dramatic
@@Ikaros23 **For the record, I think Andy is great. To propose that he might have been an actual, legit, narcissist, was not meant to be an insult or put-down; more of a subjective assessment of his possible personality. An eccentric for sure! And I love that (*aspect of it and the art that resulted from it). I agree with you to a point; on a technical note, you used to need to meet 5/9 listed DSM criteria, and I don't *think* that zero empathy or inability to self-reflect were a part of those, but that these descriptions have been more informally associated with personality disorders in general. I believe that people with NPD, and even ASPD, or any combination of these (I.e. so-called "psychopaths"), Do retain the innate capacity for empathy and self-reflection, but that they tend not to exercise these abilities, or only are comfortable doing so in very narrow settings that they deem safe, I.e. with someone who has gained their trust. I think someone with NPD has probably been trained from am early age to moderate and restrict their expression of empathy. DSM V updates (for diagnosing NPD): A. Significant impairments in personality functioning manifest by: 1. Impairments in self functioning (a or b): a. Identity: Excessive reference to others for self-definition and self-esteem regulation; exaggerated self-appraisal may be inflated or deflated, or vacillate between extremes; emotional regulation mirrors fluctuations in self-esteem. b. Self-direction: Goal-setting is based on gaining approval from others; personal standards are unreasonably high in order to see oneself as exceptional, or too low based on a sense of entitlement; often unaware of own motivations. AND 2. Impairments in interpersonal functioning (a or b): a. Empathy: Impaired [read: not nonexistent] ability to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others; excessively attuned to reactions of others, but only if perceived as relevant to self; over- or underestimate of own effect on others. b. Intimacy: Relationships largely superficial and exist to serve self-esteem regulation; mutuality constrained by little genuine interest in others' experiences and predominance of a need for personal gain B. Pathological personality traits in the following domain: 1. Antagonism, characterized by: a. Grandiosity: Feelings of entitlement, either overt or covert; self-centeredness; firmly holding to the belief that one is better than others; condescending toward others. b. Attention seeking: Excessive attempts to attract and be the focus of the attention of others; admiration seeking. C. The impairments in personality functioning and the individual's personality trait expression are relatively stable across time and consistent across situations. D. The impairments in personality functioning and the individual's personality trait expression are not better understood as normative for the individual‟s developmental stage or socio-cultural environment. E. The impairments in personality functioning and the individual's personality trait expression are not solely due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., a drug of abuse, medication) or a general medical condition (e.g., severe head trauma). ~ (Sorry for the formatting errors; I totally copied and pasted the last bit.) The point I would really like to make or counter with, is that people with NPD (who we know now, medically, are actually "sick" or struggling with a kind of insidious and challenging mental illness, as opposed to just making, say, a lifestyle choice to be a**holes) -- these people have a reputation for being "monsters" or inhuman. Which, as exemplified by Edie's dad in this scene, has some merit to. But almost no one is monstrous All the Time or from All Angles. I don't think, based on the current criteria and definition, that having the legit disorder makes you a Legit Bad Person, no holds barred. Challenging person, yes. I think it is fair to say that Andy was a Challenging person to work with and be in relationship with due to his narcissistic (and situationally acceptable elitist) traits, and my suspicion is that Edie was drawn to him subconsciously in hopes that he could be a better version of her father, and certainly better to her than her father was. And yet, what was really happening between the lines was that she was low-key setting herself up to reprocess and work through the trauma of not being enough for [Him]. Which she tried to solve / mitigate in a backwards way through her own, perhaps doomed, narcissistic romantic and professional pursuits.
@@sapphasea I think you are overlooking a vital point. Andy was a master personificator and a actor. That is the " public face" he had was just a mask/persona. A person can be shallow and seem superficial, but this may or may not say something about their " core" personality. I don`t agree on your analysis of Andy Warhol beeing a narcissist simply because there need to be more criteria. It`s obvious that Edie suffered from a form of co-dependency dissorder and substance abuse dissorder. This say nothing about Andy. And the fact that he did not want to be around a person who became toxic/narcissistic and addicted to drugs is healthy!. That is it was nothing he could do about her drug addiction or psycological problems. And in that world people get addicted or start beeing toxic all the time, to distance one self from people like that is just a sign of having healthy boundarys. Reality is that it was she who was shallow, and wanted attension and fame when she had ZERO skills axept people found her cool. She had her 15 minutes of fame and could not handle it, because of her mental health issues. That`s how i see her story
Did her Dad really say that to Warhol? If I was Edie, I would have slapped him! First of all, it showed that he was sexually possessive of her. Second of all, it showed that he was homophobic.
That dada was AWESOME. A réal man, almost aristocratique. They don’t don’t make them like this nowadays sadly, it’s all about snow flakes hère , and accusation of so called « rape » there.... The man was super rich goddamned ! Of course he could do what he wanted, and that’s how it should be, my family owns parts of the BNP and invested in the Loire Châteaux in France (+ top notch wine with super high prices just for the élites etc.....) To me it is normal if Superior people can have more freedom than normieS....
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"We don't want you blowing up now"
Edie: *is anorexic and bulimic*
This movie is so underrated. Sienna Miller and Guy Pearce did an incredible job portraying Edie Sedgwick and Andy Warhol
I AGREE...SPOT ON 🎯
Sienna really captured the voice.
i wish someone make a really iconic edie sedgwick biopic, im so excited to see sofia coppola's new priscilla presley's biopic "priscilla" and i want someone like sofia (tbh i want only sofia) to direct a new edie sedgwick biopic because i love edie so much and every movie directed by sofia coppola is aesthetically pleasing, well written and soundtracks are so freakin perfect ♡♡♡
Her earrings are like a dream...
💕💕💕
She wore them in real life too
"I swish them the way other girls swish their hair" said she.
Her father was a narcissistic terror. He bullied her her entire youth. By the time she got to the factory she was already damaged goods. Warhol just used what was left and molded it to his own vanity and then tossed her away when she was done. He did the same thing to Nico... I like him as an artist but I can't ignore those facts...Her whole life is very very sad
It wasn't sad. It was a testimony.
there isn’t such thing as “damaged goods”. A human is always a precious human
I recently watched an interview of Edie and Warhol, and these two actors just captured them perfectly: mannerisms, pitch of voice, everything down to a T.
On a side note, I cringed at the molestation implication when the dad rubbed her arm. So awful but accurate, according to most accounts
@N lol same
yeah...i also watched the interview recently...glad W is not chewing gum here...
Guy Pearce is a beautiful actor, I always admire his work. Sienna Miller was never better. It's kind of a dud of a movie overall, but wonderful performances.
This could be archival footage. The actors are spot on...
According to the book "Edie" this is not how the meeting, and subsequent comment attributed to Duke Sedgwick, happened. So... not exactly archival footage.
I think he is the worst played Warhol I've ever seen, actually
@@NoahRobertGraves ditto
lol stop
Everyone has opinions.
I told my kids; this is the scene from the Titanic where Jack Dawson (Andy Worhol) eats in 1st Class.
lol
This must be what dinnertime is like between Ivana, Donald, Jared and Melania. 😬
my girl best friend introducing me to her parents
That is completely wrong. This event was documented in the book "Edie." They met for drinks, and the meeting was noted to be brief. It was after Edie had left with Andy Warhol that Duke Sedgwick made a comment about Andy's sexual choices, and that line is not what was reported to have been said.
I had a feeling it was made up, thanks for the confirmation
Well, it's a movie not real life. It's not going to be a reenactment because it's not a documentary, is it. Use your head.
@@PrecociousFriand Use your head? In the RUclips comments?
HE CALLED WARHOL,
FULL BLOWN GAY!!!!!
This story is true. Take in what is being shown. It's not for mere entertainment. These were people's lives and we should all learn from it instead of the idea of it being entertaining.
Ok!
Word up. 💯
Guy Pearce look about as much like Andy Warhol as Andy Rooney.
LOL
he looks like Brad Pit 😂
Dorothy......
Ondineee......
Hillary........ 😏😏😏
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Fuzzy: (to Edie, when she starts to walk out of the restaurant) Edith, don’t you dare make a scene.
Totally wrong dialog. Duke would never be so overt. He was Brahmin, a member of the Brook.
True. And never forget narcs are CHARMING. They only turn on you once you are close to them. He would be wearing a mask with Andy and then taking it off once he left.
Good night!!!!
Fuzzy was a freak!
Well, what about dem Bears?...
That was mean 😔
According to the book "Edie," the meeting did not happen that way. Duke Sedgwick made the insulting comment ABOUT Andy Warhol AFTER Edie and Andy left the bar/lounge.
"I don't have a thing to worry about, you're a full-blown queer", awkward silence...
According to the book "Edie," that was not how the meeting of Andy Warhol and Duke Sedgwick happened; and that is not what the book quotes Duke as saying about Andy AFTER Edie and Andy left.
@@user-mv9tt4st9k what was quoted that he did say?
@zigzagzigAlah actually I can answer that, he commented on Warhol’s sexual preferences but not anything overly rude
Mike Tyson would of defended her.
OUCH‼️ 👥️️
I want to see this movie
What is this scene from?
Kim Mills the movie Factory Girl
Father seems based to me.
When he met the mother.
Can someone tell me what film this is from?
Factory Girl
The Sound of Music.
She missed to say "pornographic" movies.
Not all of them were lol
I enjoyed this comedy scene, but sunglasses... No.
Well her father was not wrong Blunt and Biggoted but not wrong.
Exactly
Tasteless classless & egregiously ill mannered sexual predator who was sexually involved with his own daughter attempts to denigrate the greastest living artist of the 20 th century. # epic fail
The dad was a total narcissist.
Many children raised by narcissistic parents end up like Edie. So yes, it's true.
Well, so was Andy. Which is partly what makes the interaction so fascinating.
@@sapphasea hm more a exentric. A person need to have ALL the character traits to have " narcissistic personality dissorder". A person can seem superficial, but alot of that can also just be cultural from beeing a New York avantgarde elitist. To have NPD you also need to have zero empathy and lack the abillity to self reflect. Andy was not a NPD, but may have had some narcissistic traits thats not the same as NPD. On the other hand there are ALOT of artists/bohemians who also are NPD and who use the bohemian persona as a excuse to be a asshole/toxic. Her father was obviosly a asshole/toxic/narcissist and also has zero respect for her boundarys. And insulting Andy while at the same time saying to not make a " Scene" is so typicaly narcissists who are always dramatic
@@Ikaros23
**For the record, I think Andy is great. To propose that he might have been an actual, legit, narcissist, was not meant to be an insult or put-down; more of a subjective assessment of his possible personality. An eccentric for sure! And I love that (*aspect of it and the art that resulted from it).
I agree with you to a point; on a technical note, you used to need to meet 5/9 listed DSM criteria, and I don't *think* that zero empathy or inability to self-reflect were a part of those, but that these descriptions have been more informally associated with personality disorders in general.
I believe that people with NPD, and even ASPD, or any combination of these (I.e. so-called "psychopaths"), Do retain the innate capacity for empathy and self-reflection, but that they tend not to exercise these abilities, or only are comfortable doing so in very narrow settings that they deem safe, I.e. with someone who has gained their trust.
I think someone with NPD has probably been trained from am early age to moderate and restrict their expression of empathy.
DSM V updates (for diagnosing NPD):
A. Significant impairments in personality functioning manifest by:
1. Impairments in self functioning (a or b):
a. Identity: Excessive reference to others for self-definition and self-esteem regulation; exaggerated self-appraisal may be inflated or deflated, or vacillate between extremes; emotional regulation mirrors fluctuations in self-esteem.
b. Self-direction: Goal-setting is based on gaining approval from others; personal standards are unreasonably high in order to see oneself as exceptional, or too low based on a sense of entitlement; often unaware of own motivations.
AND
2. Impairments in interpersonal functioning (a or b):
a. Empathy: Impaired [read: not nonexistent] ability to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others; excessively attuned to reactions of others, but only if perceived as relevant to self; over- or underestimate of own effect on others.
b. Intimacy: Relationships largely superficial and exist to serve self-esteem regulation; mutuality constrained by little genuine interest in others' experiences and predominance of a need for personal gain
B. Pathological personality traits in the following domain:
1. Antagonism, characterized by:
a. Grandiosity: Feelings of entitlement, either overt or covert; self-centeredness; firmly holding to the belief that one is
better than others; condescending toward others.
b. Attention seeking: Excessive attempts to attract and be the focus of the attention of others; admiration seeking.
C. The impairments in personality functioning and the individual's
personality trait expression are relatively stable across time and consistent across situations.
D. The impairments in personality functioning and the individual's
personality trait expression are not better understood as normative
for the individual‟s developmental stage or socio-cultural environment.
E. The impairments in personality functioning and the individual's
personality trait expression are not solely due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., a drug of abuse, medication) or a general medical condition (e.g., severe head trauma).
~
(Sorry for the formatting errors; I totally copied and pasted the last bit.)
The point I would really like to make or counter with, is that people with NPD (who we know now, medically, are actually "sick" or struggling with a kind of insidious and challenging mental illness, as opposed to just making, say, a lifestyle choice to be a**holes) -- these people have a reputation for being "monsters" or inhuman. Which, as exemplified by Edie's dad in this scene, has some merit to. But almost no one is monstrous All the Time or from All Angles. I don't think, based on the current criteria and definition, that having the legit disorder makes you a Legit Bad Person, no holds barred. Challenging person, yes.
I think it is fair to say that Andy was a Challenging person to work with and be in relationship with due to his narcissistic (and situationally acceptable elitist) traits, and my suspicion is that Edie was drawn to him subconsciously in hopes that he could be a better version of her father, and certainly better to her than her father was. And yet, what was really happening between the lines was that she was low-key setting herself up to reprocess and work through the trauma of not being enough for [Him]. Which she tried to solve / mitigate in a backwards way through her own, perhaps doomed, narcissistic romantic and professional pursuits.
@@sapphasea I think you are overlooking a vital point. Andy was a master personificator and a actor. That is the " public face" he had was just a mask/persona. A person can be shallow and seem superficial, but this may or may not say something about their " core" personality. I don`t agree on your analysis of Andy Warhol beeing a narcissist simply because there need to be more criteria. It`s obvious that Edie suffered from a form of co-dependency dissorder and substance abuse dissorder. This say nothing about Andy. And the fact that he did not want to be around a person who became toxic/narcissistic and addicted to drugs is healthy!. That is it was nothing he could do about her drug addiction or psycological problems. And in that world people get addicted or start beeing toxic all the time, to distance one self from people like that is just a sign of having healthy boundarys. Reality is that it was she who was shallow, and wanted attension and fame when she had ZERO skills axept people found her cool. She had her 15 minutes of fame and could not handle it, because of her mental health issues. That`s how i see her story
not many know that Edie only weighed 22 grams for this movie
Yea I don’t think that’s what happened, Edie didn’t really know Andy was gay she wanted to be with him and it just wouldn’t of really happened
How could she not know? Her brother was gay and she hung out with gay men in university.
Did her Dad really say that to Warhol? If I was Edie, I would have slapped him! First of all, it showed that he was sexually possessive of her. Second of all, it showed that he was homophobic.
Her dad was clearly a total knob..
She does horses too. Crazy huh?
Now this is Hollywood cuz I know damn well Andy Warhol did not meet this girl's father if this was even a girl
It's a movie about Edie Sedgwick who's the woman in the scene.
She was a girl and yes Warhol met Edie's father but this scene isn't realistic
Poor casting for Andy.
That dada was AWESOME. A réal man, almost aristocratique. They don’t don’t make them like this nowadays sadly, it’s all about snow flakes hère , and accusation of so called « rape » there.... The man was super rich goddamned ! Of course he could do what he wanted, and that’s how it should be, my family owns parts of the BNP and invested in the Loire Châteaux in France (+ top notch wine with super high prices just for the élites etc.....) To me it is normal if Superior people can have more freedom than normieS....
What a dreamer .
He raped his daughter, that’s not a real man lol
@@catsonjupiter exactly from the age of 8 he started molesting her. Breaks my heart.
@@jessicamotuzamcnally6473 imagine idolizing a man who does such things to a person he’s supposed to protect. Edie deserved better
@@catsonjupiter she could have lived a full life if her mental disturbances weren't killing her from the inside out.