So yeah, like SliceyDicey pointed out, if they didn't have the second detent ball, then when you press the button, the first detent ball would disengage completely and the blade would 'fall out' in many positions, making it, depending on the legal definition, either a 'gravity knife' or an automatic. So, it's not just to strengthen the detent, but to make it such that the knife would remain closed even when the button is pressed and skirt those (stupid) laws.
tron tim not the end all be all but knife rights has LA and State laws both allowing manual folders. >3” just can’t be open carried. And if the cop is really being a jerk clipped to a pocket can qualify as open carry since the clip is showing.
I think the second detent was because it couldn't drop open with the button because of legalities or something. I think I remember Eric saying that in a video and adding the second detent was why it was delayed.
Weirdly, if you don’t press the button, it works exactly like a classic gravity knife. Just try and fling the blade out, and it comes right open. It doesn’t free drop, but it definitely opens. Also oddly. The detent isn’t all the strong. It’s adequate, for sure, but not super strong.
Hey Nick, just wanted to say that the simple act of you closing your videos by wishing me a wonderful rest of the day is really pleasant. It's the small things like that that keep me coming back time after time, even if it's a review of a product I'm not really interested in (This one is not the case, I VERY much want a Smock).
@@NickShabazz I even read about the double detent before this. I figured it was going to be something more Emerson style. I never would have thought to just use a spring instead of making another pseudo lockbar. Neat stuff
@@GUNSnDOZES Just FYI, I tried it both ways, and without the second catch counterpresssure on the blade, it has noticeably more side-to-side play between open and closed. Check it out.
So tonight, evidently four years after you posted this video, my wife and I were taking apart my relatively new Smock to put in some Skiff bearings. We got flummoxed, frustrated, and confused. In short this video saved a lot more frustration. Probably too dramatic to say it saved a marriage but I just wanted you to know, this video was incredibly helpful. You know I’m a fan like so many. But a deeply appreciative fan who leans on you, again like so many do. Thanks!
You are like a kid on Christmas morning as you take your Smock apart.Removing the pocket clip improves the egos ..Much more comfortable without it.Thanks for posting.
Thanks Nick!! You helped me out. I took my smock apart and I could not figure out where that little spring came from. Two detent balls does make it smoother. You’re an ace!!
I just received the 20CV version yesterday and I'm buying Smock's red g-10 scales to give it more pop. Thanks for the great video, I wanted to see how easy it was to disassemble and put back together!
I was replacing the scales on my Smock, the second detent ball and spring came out and I had no idea where they came from. Immediately went here and discovered where to put it and what it was. I've never seen 2 detent balls before so I was freaking out! Thanks, Nick for helping me out
Thank god you made this video…got my smock in today and had already received an order for a new handle. I replace one side and had trouble with the second side when the liner lock or some larger pin fell out so then I had to take it all apart when that stupid tiny ball came out! Then..to make matters worse I see a tiny spring! That’s when I turned to RUclips and of course you always make great vids. I’m lucky you made this. Thank you.
Thanks for the preview! Stock mentioned the secondary detent in one of his update videos, I was about to explain Spyderco’s rationale and just noticed you’re already on top of it.
I love all of your videos, but this was by far the most entertaining vid I've seen on your channel. That whole extra detent ball + spring thing was enthralling.
It's really great that you had this video up, I just cleaned my cousins for him, and if I hadn't known that second ball wasn't captured, I'd be buying him a new knife. 🥲
Let's be honest here. It's absolutely fantastic. Why would Spyderco even go back to using regular compression locks now? The push button compression lock is a huge improvement.
The extra detent ball and spring may be innovative, but I must say I much prefer mine without them. They reside in a tiny bag inside the original box now. The action is actually much better with it gone. Totally drop shut now.
I’m so glad you released this video! I’ve been wondering how they did the second detent since I heard about it a few months ago. It’s nice that it’s so easily removed and reversible if one were to want to put it back. I understand they had to do it for compliance reasons, but it’s nice that we who don’t live in places with ridiculous laws can easily take it out and make the knife better for free.
Man... I should have watched this before opening mine! One I removed the scales, there goes the second detent ball, stop pin, and tiny spring! Took me forever to find everything and another long time trying to keep the spring and detent ball in place for assembly. Thanks for this video!
I took mine apart to install some new hardware, figured I’d clean it also, didn’t know about the second detent ball and almost lost it, anyway I got it back together successfully in about 10 minutes. Probably would have helped watching your video first 😅
Boy this sure is a pretty knife, personally I love a boxy handle so this is almost perfect. That button on the compression lock is fantastic as well, I don’t mind the regular one but this gives me the positives you get with the axis lock.
Thanks again Nick, great video, so informative, I just installed set of Reylight titanium frag scales, that 2nd detent can be a bit tricky, lovin the Smock .Cheers Nick 👍
I'm pretty sure this knife will have a better fall shut action if you remove the secondary detent. I handled the prototype at a show last year that didn't have the secondary detent and the action was insanely good. I imagine the constant pressure it will apply to the blade will slow down the close and also make it so you can't flip it open just by depressing the button.
I can confirm. I took out the 2nd detent and oiled everything. Blade falls free and shuts with no wrist action whatsoever. Plus you can open it by just pressing the button.
Wow, this knife looks so cool, and so different from a typical spyderco design. I don't know If I really need those speed holes on it, but I still want one.
Thanks for the video, Nick. Great job, as always! I love the knife. I think it is a real gem for this price point. There are several ways it could have been better. The clip is awful, but that can be fixed easily. The detent on mine isn't great out of the box, but I assume it will improve as it breaks in. All in all, I am extremely happy with mine. (learned a valuable lesson on Blade HQ pre-order system. I will never use that again btw)
I've been looking forward to this knife. If I manage to pick one up I'd like to see how it works if one removes the second detent... I like to be able to "fling open" button locks.
You know, I did exactly what you warned us not to and lost the second detent ball-simply gone! But don't despair, fellow klutzes, if it happens to you. I popped a ball from an extra bearing I had lying around, dropped it in, and it's working fine!
Well Kevin Smock did said there is a lot of after market clip for deep carry. But that is extra $$ for me. Like $30 for a titanium clip. and another $30 for shipping. (I'm not in USA.) And I really dun like knife tip peeping from my pocket. People here are paranoid on knife.
Gadget yoyo sorry America centric just suggesting that one specifically since the ... arc of the clip is offset so it doesn’t cover the lanyard hole but yeah they are 30 bucks
@@1968gadgetyo :- I agree about the clip. In Canada, I'm still waiting for the knife...and I suspect that the second detent's removal / blade drop possibility is holding the knife up at Customs...it could be modified to be a gravity knife. Almost afraid to say it (who is listening) but since the dealer has not confirmed delivery from Spyderco, I don't think it made it across the border. So, I guess I'll hold off on buying that deep carry clip.
If it was like 1/4" shorter in handle and blade, had the Spydie wire clip and no lanyard hole it would already be in my pocket. I'll probably get one anyway, but it would be my ideal knife with those small tweaks. As it is, I'm loving my Massdrop Zinker Dogtooth Liner Lock right now and waiting for this to be back in stock at my local knife shop.
Here's another one...Who else wishes they would drop the CF laminate and just do a nicely finished G-10. The laminate just reminds me of those atrocious CF stickers you see on vehicles. Either do carbon fiber or don't. No faking it.
This is such a cool knife and it's great to see something different. If it was possible, it would have been great if they could have moved the push button forward or made the diameter of the button (between the scales at least) smaller so the finger choil/cut out area didn't need to be so big. Not sure if that would be doable, just a thought I had. That being said, I still love mine and love carrying and using it.
I would love to see some of these changes, especially the detent, brought over to the Sliverax. Paul Alexander did a bang-up job on that design, but the factory just screwed it up to the point that I didn't want it.
Sooo, I have 3 now. 2 modified by Kevin and one mostly stock, except I took the polished g10 scales off the KnifeJoy 20cv and took off the peel-ply. When I did that, I stupidly lost the spring for the 2nd detent. But...the action is actually better without it. Who knew.
Second detent was one of the reasons the thing took so damn long. They didnt want it to be able to accidentally actuate if something hit the button. Also helps with gravity knife laws I guess(?)
I just got Mine yesterday evening. Took itapart today to dye the scales. I was supper careful taking it apart extreamly slow and easy as to not loose that second detent ball and It was all good EXCEPT there was no spring. The ball did roll out slowly onto a cheep thin fridge magnet (one of those business card magnets) I laid right on my cleaning mat. No Spring??? Do I call Spyderco and ask if this is a manufacturing error or a slight modification done between batches????
This is one of the first Spyderco knives I've seen that didn't look horrid. Nice looking blade, interesting design, cool double detent. Not bad at all. That forward choil is a bit weird, but otherwise it doesn't look bad.
I am really liking the looks of this knife! I wish the blade was only 3”, but at least the cutting edge being under 3” might get by..If the cop isn’t mad at you ;) still want to buy one!
That is an interesting way to add detent but I can see that ball getting lost in a hurry if you are not aware of it. You would think they would mention that as a caution since all others are captured. I think the review could be interesting. I am looking forward to it.
i want this...One thing i wish more knife companies would do is go to Ceramic Ball Bearings vs Stainless Steel...i switched 2 of my ZTs to Ceramic Ball Bearings and the action is SOO much better...
I did the same thing. pre-ordered one the same day Blade HQ opened it up. I never heard a word from them... So I contacted them and their reply was that I didn't get in on the first batch, and now I "might" get in by May. So I found one through another dealer and already have it in hand. The system Blade HQ uses for pre-orders is a joke. Never again for me.
Grind out a little and chamfer the sharpening/finger choil ( maybe a little jimping) , get rid of the lanyard hole and put the wire clip on it towards the end for a deeper carry. Put real carbon fiber scales ( Kapara or like my Knifecenter exclusive Manix). If possible get rid of the full steel liners by just using the CF scales and compression lock liner(PM2) . You probably would have a perennial top seller for years to come.
I absolutely appreciate that they are improving the detent and avoiding running afoul of silly laws. However I can't help but wonder if there was not a way to do that with a captured ball? I'm not saying they should have copied Emerson's system but this would make me a little more nervous than IKBS.
So I got a smock from my fiancee over the weekend (I know, she's great) and I was excited to take it apart and check it all out. I had to come back and check this video out to be sure I wasn't mistaken...my smock has no detent ball ramp. I'm not sure if this was a production run change or an issue with mine alone. I will be looking into it more, but I thought I'd post here first to see if anyone seeing this (or nick) has any info about this.
Just got mine in the mail today..Doesn't seem to be a detent ball ramp on new batch and mine was pretty gritty out of the box.. Other than that its a pretty nice knife...Great vid
Nick, when you review the knife, can you address the position of the finger groove? Seems a little far back from the blade. And also the front choil. That thing looks kind of sharp and a little dangerous compared to spyderco's normal 50/50 choils. Thanks.
Both are byproducts of the design and function. The finger groove is so far back as a result of the corner flipper. If you look at the knife when Nick has the blade open but the second scale off, you can see how that chunk of steel that is the flipper is now where a normal forward finger groove would be, so the groove is further back and your middle finger sits in it. Your index finger rests on top of the flat portion that is the flipper tab. The “finger choil” is also a result of the interaction between the blade and lock mechanism. If that cut out weren’t there, when the knife is closed it would hit the push button on the inside. The choil extends so far out because when closed, the blade wraps around the button and give it clearance. Some of these little aspects may be a turn off for some, but once you realize it’s a result of some pretty clever design it’s easily appreciated.
Nice looking knife from spyderco. Not to fond of flippers, this ball bearing pivot is in my eyes a weak point, but it is pretty good looking knife- to be a spyderco. The look appeals to me. Probably not a knife to carry in the woods here up in the north thou.
Nick... (Pedant mode engaged) This isn't "peel-ply". Peel-ply is full cf that has a texture created by "peeling" a layer of material that was applied prior to curing, that has the reverse of the desired texture. See the CF PM 2 for 'correct' peel-ply. (This is simply cf/g10 laminate). I assume this has the "Basket-weave" texture like the sage1, Gayle Bradleys, et. al.?
So yeah, like SliceyDicey pointed out, if they didn't have the second detent ball, then when you press the button, the first detent ball would disengage completely and the blade would 'fall out' in many positions, making it, depending on the legal definition, either a 'gravity knife' or an automatic. So, it's not just to strengthen the detent, but to make it such that the knife would remain closed even when the button is pressed and skirt those (stupid) laws.
Kevin Smock did say that Spyderco added a secondary detent
Oh that’s smart. Wouldn’t be able to be carried in LA if it just fell out
Yeah that’s what the Smock guy said in his update video a long time ago when we thought we’d get this in 2018
boredandagitated you can’t carry it in LA due to blade length anyway
tron tim not the end all be all but knife rights has LA and State laws both allowing manual folders. >3” just can’t be open carried. And if the cop is really being a jerk clipped to a pocket can qualify as open carry since the clip is showing.
I think the second detent was because it couldn't drop open with the button because of legalities or something. I think I remember Eric saying that in a video and adding the second detent was why it was delayed.
That makes a lot of sense. Otherwise it's a classic "gravity knife".
Weirdly, if you don’t press the button, it works exactly like a classic gravity knife. Just try and fling the blade out, and it comes right open. It doesn’t free drop, but it definitely opens.
Also oddly. The detent isn’t all the strong. It’s adequate, for sure, but not super strong.
And l since I don’t live in a gravity knife hating state, I think I might just take the second detent ball out.
@@ryanqwerty that's probably why the second detent is constructed the way it is
A law suit has reached supreme court review regarding New York knife regulations and the "gravity" and "intent" issues.
Hey Nick, just wanted to say that the simple act of you closing your videos by wishing me a wonderful rest of the day is really pleasant. It's the small things like that that keep me coming back time after time, even if it's a review of a product I'm not really interested in (This one is not the case, I VERY much want a Smock).
I'm glad you took this apart before I got one because I damn well would have lost that ball 🤣
Yep, that's a big part of the reason for posting this, too.
@@NickShabazz I even read about the double detent before this. I figured it was going to be something more Emerson style. I never would have thought to just use a spring instead of making another pseudo lockbar. Neat stuff
I took my 3rd one apart and lost the spring, d’oh! Still works REALLY well without it.
I hope that button compression lock makes a come back in some newer knives. Thanks as always for the videos Nick!
After watching your disassembly video, I took mine apart and left out the second detent and spring. Works smoother, thanks for the great video.
THAAAANK YOU! I was thinking about doing the same thing but wasn’t sure if it would screw up the knife. But MAN what an improvement!
@@GUNSnDOZES Just FYI, I tried it both ways, and without the second catch counterpresssure on the blade, it has noticeably more side-to-side play between open and closed. Check it out.
So tonight, evidently four years after you posted this video, my wife and I were taking apart my relatively new Smock to put in some Skiff bearings. We got flummoxed, frustrated, and confused. In short this video saved a lot more frustration. Probably too dramatic to say it saved a marriage but I just wanted you to know, this video was incredibly helpful. You know I’m a fan like so many. But a deeply appreciative fan who leans on you, again like so many do. Thanks!
You are like a kid on Christmas morning as you take your Smock apart.Removing the pocket clip improves the egos ..Much more comfortable without it.Thanks for posting.
The title should've been "Nick has a knifegasm on video"
Sounds painful 🤔
Thanks Nick!! You helped me out. I took my smock apart and I could not figure out where that little spring came from. Two detent balls does make it smoother. You’re an ace!!
I just received the 20CV version yesterday and I'm buying Smock's red g-10 scales to give it more pop.
Thanks for the great video, I wanted to see how easy it was to disassemble and put back together!
I was replacing the scales on my Smock, the second detent ball and spring came out and I had no idea where they came from.
Immediately went here and discovered where to put it and what it was. I've never seen 2 detent balls before so I was freaking out!
Thanks, Nick for helping me out
Thank god you made this video…got my smock in today and had already received an order for a new handle. I replace one side and had trouble with the second side when the liner lock or some larger pin fell out so then I had to take it all apart when that stupid tiny ball came out! Then..to make matters worse I see a tiny spring! That’s when I turned to RUclips and of course you always make great vids. I’m lucky you made this. Thank you.
Thanks for the preview! Stock mentioned the secondary detent in one of his update videos, I was about to explain Spyderco’s rationale and just noticed you’re already on top of it.
I deeply love the bladeshape. One of the first spidercos that spark my intrest.
I love all of your videos, but this was by far the most entertaining vid I've seen on your channel. That whole extra detent ball + spring thing was enthralling.
It's really great that you had this video up, I just cleaned my cousins for him, and if I hadn't known that second ball wasn't captured, I'd be buying him a new knife. 🥲
Let's be honest here. It's absolutely fantastic. Why would Spyderco even go back to using regular compression locks now? The push button compression lock is a huge improvement.
The extra detent ball and spring may be innovative, but I must say I much prefer mine without them. They reside in a tiny bag inside the original box now. The action is actually much better with it gone. Totally drop shut now.
yup, im in love. get an aftermarket clip and take my money
Got mine in the mail and was curious about the second detent. Thanks for preventing me from opening it up and losing it!
I’m so glad you released this video! I’ve been wondering how they did the second detent since I heard about it a few months ago. It’s nice that it’s so easily removed and reversible if one were to want to put it back. I understand they had to do it for compliance reasons, but it’s nice that we who don’t live in places with ridiculous laws can easily take it out and make the knife better for free.
The one I ordered is still in the mail. So while I haven't handled one yet, I can't help but think of how good a wire clip would be on it.
I think this is the knife I've always wanted the Yojimbo to be. Great video Nick!
Man... I should have watched this before opening mine! One I removed the scales, there goes the second detent ball, stop pin, and tiny spring! Took me forever to find everything and another long time trying to keep the spring and detent ball in place for assembly.
Thanks for this video!
I took mine apart to install some new hardware, figured I’d clean it also, didn’t know about the second detent ball and almost lost it, anyway I got it back together successfully in about 10 minutes. Probably would have helped watching your video first 😅
Boy this sure is a pretty knife, personally I love a boxy handle so this is almost perfect. That button on the compression lock is fantastic as well, I don’t mind the regular one but this gives me the positives you get with the axis lock.
Mine shipped today, looking forward to getting it after over a year of pre-order!
Waiting to see you put it back together...
Damn, I’m two left hands, all thumbs, can not follow directions. Your video made it pretty easy. Thank you!
Minus the clip and lanyard hole, the Smock if for sure a gem!
Thanks to this video I will never take my smock apart.
Beautiful knife....Wire clip & better hole & it’s perfect! thanx for the deconstruct & review. Very helpful as usual.
Been waiting for this one for way too long.
thanks for the detailed video nick, this one is a bit tricky ............👊👊
Thanks again Nick, great video, so informative, I just installed set of Reylight titanium frag scales, that 2nd detent can be a bit tricky, lovin the Smock .Cheers Nick 👍
Smock! Smock smock, smock! SMOCK SMOCK!!!
By grabthar's hammer!
Take those suction cups off - you’re driving everyone crazy!
i know a calvin and hobbes reference when i see one!
I'm pretty sure this knife will have a better fall shut action if you remove the secondary detent. I handled the prototype at a show last year that didn't have the secondary detent and the action was insanely good. I imagine the constant pressure it will apply to the blade will slow down the close and also make it so you can't flip it open just by depressing the button.
I can confirm. I took out the 2nd detent and oiled everything. Blade falls free and shuts with no wrist action whatsoever. Plus you can open it by just pressing the button.
Really awesome looking knife,
Wow, this knife looks so cool, and so different from a typical spyderco design. I don't know If I really need those speed holes on it, but I still want one.
I took that second detent out and this knife feels 100 percent better.
I need this knife in my life is it worth selling several knives though??
Thanks for the video, Nick. Great job, as always! I love the knife. I think it is a real gem for this price point. There are several ways it could have been better. The clip is awful, but that can be fixed easily. The detent on mine isn't great out of the box, but I assume it will improve as it breaks in. All in all, I am extremely happy with mine. (learned a valuable lesson on Blade HQ pre-order system. I will never use that again btw)
This knife is just terrific, I want one !
I'm so ready for my Smock to get here!!
I've been looking forward to this knife. If I manage to pick one up I'd like to see how it works if one removes the second detent... I like to be able to "fling open" button locks.
You know, I did exactly what you warned us not to and lost the second detent ball-simply gone! But don't despair, fellow klutzes, if it happens to you. I popped a ball from an extra bearing I had lying around, dropped it in, and it's working fine!
Could probably get the lynch spyderco pm3 clip that’s offset of the lanyard hole for considerably deeper carry
Well Kevin Smock did said there is a lot of after market clip for deep carry. But that is extra $$ for me. Like $30 for a titanium clip. and another $30 for shipping. (I'm not in USA.) And I really dun like knife tip peeping from my pocket. People here are paranoid on knife.
Gadget yoyo sorry America centric just suggesting that one specifically since the ... arc of the clip is offset so it doesn’t cover the lanyard hole but yeah they are 30 bucks
@@1968gadgetyo :- I agree about the clip. In Canada, I'm still waiting for the knife...and I suspect that the second detent's removal / blade drop possibility is holding the knife up at Customs...it could be modified to be a gravity knife. Almost afraid to say it (who is listening) but since the dealer has not confirmed delivery from Spyderco, I don't think it made it across the border. So, I guess I'll hold off on buying that deep carry clip.
When I disassembled my Benchmade Triage the ball bearing detent for the rescue hook was set up the same way. Ball bearing loose sitting on a spring.
Great job Nick!
Finally a Smock
If it was like 1/4" shorter in handle and blade, had the Spydie wire clip and no lanyard hole it would already be in my pocket. I'll probably get one anyway, but it would be my ideal knife with those small tweaks. As it is, I'm loving my Massdrop Zinker Dogtooth Liner Lock right now and waiting for this to be back in stock at my local knife shop.
Love the blade shap, love the lock but the handle is mjehh... Nice review Nick!
Who else really wishes they'd make this in Colorado
Here's another one...Who else wishes they would drop the CF laminate and just do a nicely finished G-10. The laminate just reminds me of those atrocious CF stickers you see on vehicles. Either do carbon fiber or don't. No faking it.
This is such a cool knife and it's great to see something different. If it was possible, it would have been great if they could have moved the push button forward or made the diameter of the button (between the scales at least) smaller so the finger choil/cut out area didn't need to be so big. Not sure if that would be doable, just a thought I had. That being said, I still love mine and love carrying and using it.
I would love to see some of these changes, especially the detent, brought over to the Sliverax. Paul Alexander did a bang-up job on that design, but the factory just screwed it up to the point that I didn't want it.
This video saved me. Thanks!
Thanks for the help. I changed out my scales and started to worry how the hell am I gonna put this back together lol
Great video! Do you have a link to the Precision Screwdriver your using? Looks money.
Sooo, I have 3 now. 2 modified by Kevin and one mostly stock, except I took the polished g10 scales off the KnifeJoy 20cv and took off the peel-ply. When I did that, I stupidly lost the spring for the 2nd detent. But...the action is actually better without it. Who knew.
Second detent was one of the reasons the thing took so damn long. They didnt want it to be able to accidentally actuate if something hit the button.
Also helps with gravity knife laws I guess(?)
Does the detent spring need to be removed with the ball altogether to get rid of the second detent? I’d like for the knife to just drop open and shut
This double detent also reminds me of the CKF terra which has 2 detent balls. One always touching the blade
I just got Mine yesterday evening. Took itapart today to dye the scales. I was supper careful taking it apart extreamly slow and easy as to not loose that second detent ball and It was all good EXCEPT there was no spring. The ball did roll out slowly onto a cheep thin fridge magnet (one of those business card magnets) I laid right on my cleaning mat. No Spring??? Do I call Spyderco and ask if this is a manufacturing error or a slight modification done between batches????
That’s the most overly complicated knife mechanism I have ever seen... I want it!
This is one of the first Spyderco knives I've seen that didn't look horrid. Nice looking blade, interesting design, cool double detent. Not bad at all. That forward choil is a bit weird, but otherwise it doesn't look bad.
That "choil" is actually clearance for the button mech.
I am really liking the looks of this knife! I wish the blade was only 3”, but at least the cutting edge being under 3” might get by..If the cop isn’t mad at you ;) still want to buy one!
Jesus I could listen to you talk about cool products all day long.
Just ordered me one an not sure if I wanna remove the detent ball or
That is an interesting way to add detent but I can see that ball getting lost in a hurry if you are not aware of it. You would think they would mention that as a caution since all others are captured.
I think the review could be interesting. I am looking forward to it.
What about the spring? What holds that in place the scale?
Holy fuck! The smock! Finally!
I must have this knife. I love my pm2 I like the compression lock but the button makes it close with out changing my grip. 👍
i want this...One thing i wish more knife companies would do is go to Ceramic Ball Bearings vs Stainless Steel...i switched 2 of my ZTs to Ceramic Ball Bearings and the action is SOO much better...
Where the hell is the one I preordered over a year ago!?
m chipman, wow, really...that’s crazy. Where did you buy it?
@@mickkeim4142 preordered from bladehq 370 days ago... haven't heard a word
@@mchipman7879 April 6th last year, here.
EDIT: If you search on their website, it says Coming Soon over the knife.
They're sending em out in waves I think, I got my shipping notification today.
I did the same thing. pre-ordered one the same day Blade HQ opened it up. I never heard a word from them... So I contacted them and their reply was that I didn't get in on the first batch, and now I "might" get in by May. So I found one through another dealer and already have it in hand. The system Blade HQ uses for pre-orders is a joke. Never again for me.
Grind out a little and chamfer the sharpening/finger choil ( maybe a little jimping) , get rid of the lanyard hole and put the wire clip on it towards the end for a deeper carry. Put real carbon fiber scales ( Kapara or like my Knifecenter exclusive Manix). If possible get rid of the full steel liners by just using the CF scales and compression lock liner(PM2) .
You probably would have a perennial top seller for years to come.
Just ordered, can't wait until some Ti scales drop for this pokey boi
I absolutely appreciate that they are improving the detent and avoiding running afoul of silly laws. However I can't help but wonder if there was not a way to do that with a captured ball? I'm not saying they should have copied Emerson's system but this would make me a little more nervous than IKBS.
What driver set is that you’re using @nickshabazz?
So I got a smock from my fiancee over the weekend (I know, she's great) and I was excited to take it apart and check it all out. I had to come back and check this video out to be sure I wasn't mistaken...my smock has no detent ball ramp. I'm not sure if this was a production run change or an issue with mine alone. I will be looking into it more, but I thought I'd post here first to see if anyone seeing this (or nick) has any info about this.
I'm just excited to watch Nick rip the Spyderco Tropen a new one
Awesome knife, want one
Just got mine in the mail today..Doesn't seem to be a detent ball ramp on new batch and mine was pretty gritty out of the box.. Other than that its a pretty nice knife...Great vid
Smock knives posted a video about this. Well he mentioned it in one of his update videos I believe
Wow, Spyderco grew a pair.
Again I only wish it was smaller. I also agree the clip needs preference over the lanyard hole.
Is there a deep carry replacement clip that would fit that hole pattern?
Michael Keim
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DiBiase thanks...
Yes the Smock is the button lock that stands out. Spyderco delica is a good knife. Long live SPYDERCO.
were can i get one the hex drivers u used in this video im sick of the walmart driver i have they keep breaking on me
Yup...gonna buy that....damn you Nick!
What lubricant are you using when putting the knife back together for use?
@Fred Sanchez thank you for the response.
Damn now I'm even more in lust with this knife 🤣🤣
I love the knife except for the front finger hump/choil/ no choil weird ergo issue. Hopefully V2 improves that.
Mine was supposed to arrive today...but usps went and did something. Now it says alert and that they are awaiting delivery scan
Was that legitimate fear I heard in your voice when you said, “holy crap. That’s a spring.”? 😂
Nick, when you review the knife, can you address the position of the finger groove? Seems a little far back from the blade. And also the front choil. That thing looks kind of sharp and a little dangerous compared to spyderco's normal 50/50 choils. Thanks.
Both are byproducts of the design and function. The finger groove is so far back as a result of the corner flipper. If you look at the knife when Nick has the blade open but the second scale off, you can see how that chunk of steel that is the flipper is now where a normal forward finger groove would be, so the groove is further back and your middle finger sits in it. Your index finger rests on top of the flat portion that is the flipper tab. The “finger choil” is also a result of the interaction between the blade and lock mechanism. If that cut out weren’t there, when the knife is closed it would hit the push button on the inside. The choil extends so far out because when closed, the blade wraps around the button and give it clearance. Some of these little aspects may be a turn off for some, but once you realize it’s a result of some pretty clever design it’s easily appreciated.
Nice looking knife from spyderco. Not to fond of flippers, this ball bearing pivot is in my eyes a weak point, but it is pretty good looking knife- to be a spyderco. The look appeals to me. Probably not a knife to carry in the woods here up in the north thou.
At 7:10 there's a detent ball ramp. My Spyderco Smock does NOT have that and I can tell :(
What bit driver do you utilize ?
Nick... (Pedant mode engaged) This isn't "peel-ply".
Peel-ply is full cf that has a texture created by "peeling" a layer of material that was applied prior to curing, that has the reverse of the desired texture. See the CF PM 2 for 'correct' peel-ply. (This is simply cf/g10 laminate).
I assume this has the "Basket-weave" texture like the sage1, Gayle Bradleys, et. al.?