Of Bones And Drums - Vegan Witchcraft
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
- The use of animal-skin drums and other animal products within Traditional Folk Magic and Spirituality, through an animistic and vegan approach.
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Arith, I love you. Thankyou so much for addressing this. Decades ago I would make a drum etc, - everything i made was of 'found' identity and we would do ceremonies and burials for the animal and spirit - tree parts too. A friend of mine was listed with the environment office, so we would get called if a bird got caught (killed) in an electric fence. Mostly i would do the ceremonies and burial , people always asked why i didn't take anything; and i would answer that it was only enough and hopefully an honour to ceremony for the spirit. That was enough for me.
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Thank you my dear friend. I realize that, were I a vegan since the start, I would never had my drum, which in many ways is an element in my life that greatly helped me. I suppose we change when we really have to change. Your account is very interesting, and it reminds me of two things: when I was a kid, I was to go around forests and parks picking up dead animals to give them a burial and put them to rest; and reminds me of Amalie Bruun, from Myrkur (her solo black metal project), when she once found a rabbit (I can't recall the animal, not sure if it was an hare, but I have the picture in my mind) and she made a beautiful bed of flowers and other natural stuff all around the dead animal's body to give it a different passing, sort of more poetic and beautiful, in her own way of expressing her feelings towards death. Thank you my dear friends, be well!
I agree, the things we are drawn to on our travels whether a stone, stick, bone or other has far more meaning to me. A with animal we come across that need our help. Recently I came across a four month vixen in deaths door, maggots had got into cuts on her tail, even the fleas had abandoned her. Sadly after for days she posted away in her sleep, not in pain or in fear. I called her Lagatha, I know corny but it's the first name that came to me. She stayed to remind us to be compassionat, even to a half dead fox. And it taught m me that those who should help didn't and those who could really tried. A m minus for some humans. She is buried and will return to the earth as it's the cycle of life. But what value she brought us all.
Just thought I'd share that.
Thank you Arith your videos are always worth listening to.
Thank you for listening my friend, be well!
Congratulations on your work, which in everything has been a contribution to clarifying and remembering what is fundamental in Life!
Wow!! thanks so much for such powerful words and holding space for conversations needed to be had, much gratitude and respect🌺🦉🪶🦅🕸🌱
Thank you friend. Be well and many blessings to you!
Great points, it was super thorough (the use of previously bought things, animal parts found naturally, respect and asking for permission) I always struggled with the wasteful part of veganism that just says ditch everything, it's not sustainable and if you care for the environment wasting is kind of hypocritical
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Thank you for addressing this subject, Arith, the core of "And Harm None" seems to evade many.
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Sadly, it is so. It reminds me of Wicca, being the most widespread and famous neo-pagan movement with "An ye harm none, do what ye will", but seems most only apply it to human beings (sometimes not even that). Thank you friend!
Important topic, thank you Arith 🌻
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Your intros are gold! You definitely have a knack for starting off the conversation 🤗 And, this all makes so much sense. I am not vegan but do have respect , and give thanks, for all things I utilize from the animal world. I have a couple of drums that are made out of reindeer hide that were ethically harvested by the Sami' people, and turned into hides for drums, which were made by a pagan animist friend (I feel confident in the lineage of these items). I very much respect those drums and the other animal parts (antlers, a couple skulls and bones) that I have in my home. Most of the bones I have acquired myself in nature. I always ask permission to take a few, and then give thanks to the animal for it's sacrifice. My antlers are primarily reindeer from the tundra in Norway, from a Sami practitioner. I do have a couple bone items of unknown origin (the first ones I acquired, before really understanding the importance of knowing how, and why, they were harvested). I know, how thoughtless and naive was my thinking at that time. You have certainly brought a very important topic to the forefront and given me further food for thought. I see an asking permission (albeit late), and giving thanks, ritual in my near future. Thank you for this very important video, Arith. You have truly brought so much richness, and knowledge, to my life and practice.
Hi everyone, does anyone know what's going on? Today is Mr.Arith's video day!!!!! Where!?
Wednesday, June 12th? What do you think?
Thanks for this. Carnism is deeply entrenched in most societies, and even more so in parts of pagan circles. I got a few funny looks when I started to replace some of my tools (with which I have never really been comfortable) with some vegan ones I am in the process of making myself. But so what? As someone under the pagan umbrella, I am pretty used to funny looks, and also, there are so many quirky people in my bubble, so I shall be an example of how to constructively deviate from tradition in order to keep my spiritual as well as moral integrity.
Isn't it weird though. If parents were to make it obvious, to their infant children, what had to happen to force that meat into their diets (usually at the bidding of others who believe it's immoral for parents to force their views on their children (but only if those views are negative (rather than positive) about meat - apparently) ) those kids would not stop screaming and crying. We're encouraged to do such unnatural, and potentially physically deleterious, things to our own children.
So, to anybody who is still glibly pontificating about how it's child abuse to make one's own children live on the same meatless diets their parents do - have a word with yourselves.
The incongruity of it didn't dawn on me till my son was in his late teens. I swear, now, if I witness anybody trying to pull that nasty trick on the best intentions of parents (who are usually very vulnerable to it as they are driven by fear, concern and guilt) - they will have a problem with me. I'm sorry to anybody (Ellie and Phil - you demonstrated such patience towards me and your vegan boys were always more robust than the carnist child of mine so you must have been so dismayed with me - but I had been gaslit by vicious cretins) who had to experience me regurgitating that false and venal mantra like it was actual scientific fact or something - people are also forcing their dietary ideologies on their children when it involves meat eating. That epiphany was massive when it happened. And, I apologise to my son. I didn't have enough confidence in my ideology and I failed you.
When it comes to the consumption of animals in our today's society, and the people that do that, we either have part of the public completely oblivious of the violence that goes on to put a piece of meat on their plate (and when the public is aware of this, the great % is shocked) or we have people who are activily killing the animals, and violence has been normalized for those people because that's their job to do so. I've been between the two. In the countryside, such violence is normalized, and every child (such as I once was) has a terrible traumatic experience the first time an animal is killed in front of us. With time, this violence is normalized and it has terrible consequences on the individual's capacity to feel and empathize. When I was face-to-face with the reality of the animal industry, it is far worse than anything I have experienced with the slaughtering of animals back in the countryside (which was horrible enough). And then, when we look at indigenous peoples, in many of their societies they consume animals (some less than others) but the respect towards the animal and the act of sacrifice really shows a bigger sense of empathy and the understanding that it is something wrong, even though in certain occasions there's no other way, but there's the recognition that it is wrong to take a life. For centuries we have called indigenous peoples has savages, but if they are "savages", then we are monsters. The normalization of violence has to be deconstructed. Thank you my friend, all the best to you and best of luck in your own process. Many blessings!
I remember picking out a random book of "native american prayers" at a library and half the prayers was for the sake of the animals they hunt.
Your kind words spoke to my soul. Why harm when we have no need for it?
"Remember, that we all are brothers/All people, beasts, trees and stone and wind
We all descend from the one great being/That was always there/Before people lived and named it/ Before the first seed sprouted" (-Heilung, opening ceremony)
I deeply believe that awarness and respect for our fellow-beeings on this earth, will not only make the world a better place, but has the potential to bring salvation to ourselves.
This topic was extremely timely for me. I really appreciate you taking the time to address this address this.
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always coming with such great wisdom. pleasure to hear but most important is act on the impunity of the meat lobby
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I myself just addressed this issue a little bit in my patreon, in a video I did on animal necromancy. As a bone gatherer, I myself understand the idea that just because a bone is found doesn't mean its meant to "take." These are important dialogs.
Great video my dear friend.Thank you.
Hello my friend, how is it going? I'm not sure if RUclips will allow it, but try to put the link to your patreon here for others to check if anyone is interested.
Thanks Arith. We'll see if it works. Lol. I'm definitely going to repost this video. This is such an important topic. I think I'm going to create a response video to this one because there are many thoughts I have & this is such an important topic. I will tag you in it or send you the link.
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Thank you so much for helping so many of us proceed upon our animistic path. I'm not a vegan, but I am very much into being as conscious about how I conduct myself in the world. I directly take no life that I don't have to. I'm very live and let live with any creature that crosses my path (some even drop a bit of knowledge along the way). It's a middle path for me where I do as little harm as I can within the ecosystem, to maybe offset the damage I do through eating a bit of fish or whatnot. I have given up red meat and try not to purchase anything that was from an obvious factory farm....but I love me some fish.
I have never understood the purchasing of animal items. For me, the connection that I have is often mostly to do with the fact that I found that item at that place at that time for some reason. Without that, it feels like I would just have a bunch of dead parts and pieces in my house. I generally do not need to take and physically do anything with what I find. It's usually the thought or feeling that comes with moment. I feel that even honoring a life taken, especially one that was caused by humankind without purpose, is a valid reason to acknowledge a fallen person of the earth. My under my breath little prayer for every roadkill animal I pass is "rest well, little friend". It's my way of at least acknowledging that a life was living and was taken for a reason that had nothing to do with the natural order (I mean short of the creatures that will eat the remains).
2 summers ago, a massive storm came through and toppled a giant limb from my oak tree in my backyard. Through the grace of Thor, the branch missed my house by inches and found the one 4" by 4" post to land most of its weight upon lest it took out part of my living room. Still pouring out some libation for that solid he did for me;) However, in the process one of the residing mama squirrels of the tree did not survive as her nest was in the fork of the limb. I found her laying at the base of the tree holding on to the roots. I think she was critically injured in the fall and was dead but just didn't know it yet. She got as far as her home trunk and breathed her last.
I left her where she lay. My wife questioned why I left a dead animal rotting in our yard, but it didnt feel right to just scoop her up and toss her in the trash. She was nestled against the only home she ever had. She was nestled against the tree that had fed her and sheltered her until it could not. I know she had her broods up there. I left her to go to the soil. Within a few months with no large scavengers getting in my fenced yard, she was a tattered pelt and some bones. I took some of the fallen wood from the tree and crafted a short walking stick. As I dried it over the fire and thanked the tree for its gift. I got the idea to ask the squirrel if she wanted to be part of this. This stick was cut from the branch she lived upon. Feeling she was good with it, I placed her remaining bones in the fire as I blackened the stick and steamed out the sap. Now, this stick will last for generations with little care. A piece of my dear friend, the oak, and its resident that it provided for will be together in a way as one.
I feel their are many paths in animism. I believe that it is the intention with how we conduct ourselves (acknowledging, asking, using our energy and observation in a way that so that we do not harm another) that is the most meaningful. I will never question another's beliefs as there are PLENTY of religions that do that now. I simply feel that for ME, a broad and open mind of being conscientious to the presence of other persons means taking as much care as possible to harm nothing nor amass an excess from nature. In that, I can see how the vegan lifestyle would compliment the animistic value system very well.
Thank you for your words, the energy behind them is wonderful
This is great I totally agree and would apply that to anything that has been taken from the earth historically. Wood, fur, leather, bones, tusks, crystals etc has a past story and hopefully was taken by asking permission from the mother or as a scruff that honours the animal, tree etc, and uses every part. The spirit lives. We can even connect with something old. So use it with honour but don't buy new.
Interesting. Not a vegan, or a bone collector, but many great points. Thnx.
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I completely respect your thoughts and views on this subject.
I myself am not vegan but can understand your stand on the matter. As a consumer of animals and a practitioner of the old ways and indigenous beliefs, I actually think about this actually quite a bit.
In short, we even support and promote your practice.
Thank you, Arith.
I too have a drum, and a few animal parts, found by me. I also think that the idea of honor and courtesy are an integral part of witchcraft, and is the oil which makes it work. We are are part of this all.
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life cycle... everything lives off other things.... we are all a sacrifice... what feeds on us... cannibals like bacteria, fungus, worms, etc.... making it a willing sacrifice as a natural roll of all things consumed by all things... being in harmony with this with love and gratitude....
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many thanks kiddo for making this much needed video !
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I've been watching your videos from the beginning, I preface this because I am genuinely asking. I don't understand why people draw a line between animals and plants, or any other spirit. I believe that spirits exist all over and are in constant struggle with one another. New science is showing plants communicate, and even ancient people spoke with them like with ayahuasca. Animals eat each other and plants, the spirit of wind grinds stone, spirit of water extinguish fire. We are all part of a universal whole and when you consume an animal you take it into yourself, but in a way you are always consuming yourself as a piece of that universal whole. It is a great cycle, where we all take and give, which is why I want a green burial, to give back rather then a chemical bath and a box. I understand much of what is said with respecting and appeasing the spirits, and agree. But I never hear anyone talk about the many other spirits that are frequently ignored. Does the tree deserve less?
Indeed I do understand your point, and I've spoken about it here on some videos. If we do believe that everything has spirit, than everything we consume (even plants) is the consumption of spirit. As you spoke of Ayahuasca, it is interesting to see that many people consume Ayahuasca and have their own experiences, however, the experience isn't as "heightened" as when there's the previous ritual through the communication of the spirit of the plant which will allow itself to open up to you and communicate with you once it is consumed. So, there's indeed this level of communication with spirits of the plants. However, the levels of suffering on a physical level are quite different. The animals people consume, are not just sentient, but also have a complex nervous system that allows them to feel a lot more than a plant does, which does not have as complex as a nervous system as, say, mamals. But I could honestly go on around this for hours, but let me just give a quick example which is something I often tell people when this type of issue is "on the table": hypothetically, I'll go with a basket to pick apples, and you go with a knife to cut a pig's throat, and then we compare the experience. The interaction with spirits on a physical level is totally different, and the way we act towards them and the things we do to consume them. If I pick an apple from a tree, or harvest oats and beans, even the experience of the spirits is different. A tree won't suffer much if I take one of its apples. A pig, on the other hand, the act alone of taking the life of a sentient being that is capable of looking us in the eyes, trusting us, being playful, interacting, speaking, and then is killed by our hands and screams in horror, pain and betrayal . . . well, I would rather consume the spirit of the apple, rather than the angry, sorrowful and tortured spirit of the pig. And indeed, animals eat each other, that's their nature and they have little choice, even though on several occasions they show empathy towards the animals they hunt. But we, humans, we are not like them on many ways. The lion, has no choice but to hunt and eat meat, as its digestive system and its biology is designed for that. We humans, on the other hand, fortunatly we have choices and we can indeed choose to have full plant-based diet and live a long and healthy life. But I don't want to take much of your time with this comment. There's other videos on the subject where I've elaborated much more on this, but I'll be happy to do more if you think it's worth it. Thank you and have a wonderful day. Be well, and many blessings to you!
As a teen, I used to spend a lot of time fishing. I usually released but would occasionally catch them to eat. One time I failed to cook and eat the fish and it spoiled. This impacted me and I felt terribly about it. I couldn't shake the feeling or ignore it totally. Eventually, I took the fish(which I had been avoiding because of my guilt) and gave it a burial in my backyard. I knew I hadn't made it "right" but I did feel a release. To this day I still feel sick remembering my wastefulness and disrespect.
I'm not a vegan and probably never would be one. As part of my personal health code I try to minimize my meat consumption but I don't see myself completely removing it from my diet. However, I relate to idea of minimizing your negative impact and being respectful/responsible.
I wish that everyone who chose to eat meat had to raise, kill and butcher their own. There would likely be a lot less meat consumption(for various reasons) if people had to experience the full life cycle and be responsible for all of it. While I cannot live up to this standard now I'm working towards this since it feels more correct since I insist on eating meat.
Basic question about veganism, bro.
I'm vegan activist for 14 years and we discussed this subject with my team thousands times.
For us it's simple: any new stuff will cost some resources. New resources
Your old drums doesn't cost anything if we are talking about capitalistic system of consumption.
So remember, that veganism is not only about respect to ones live, but to all living beings, our mother Earth and biodiversity itself.
So you did nothing wrong saving old working stuff, not paying for smth new. Cos our kind has already make a lot of terrible shit and trash on this planet.
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I enjoy your perspectives. Although I do make other choices in my personal ethics, new perspectives still make me contemplate.
Could it be possible that the spirit of the animal via the skin covering your drum lives on through the intention you bring in using your drum?
In other words the animal's spirit lives on when you beat the drum.
All we can do is make the best decision with what we know in the moment. When we know better we do better.
I'm not a vegan but am curious especially in an animism context. I hear about research(I haven't done much in verification but consider this at least a hypothetical experiment) that plants can detect or even experience "pain" when being damaged. I've heard that a single plant can even communicate its harm to other plants. Imagine that harvesting and eating plants causes "harm" like in animal consumption. Perhaps from our animal perspective we don't appreciate the experience of a plant because it is much more alien. To sum up:
1) plants might feel things like pain,
2) there could be a community of plant entities which know a member has been harmed,
3) our monkey brain might be biased against appreciating plant intelligence/consciousness.
If these are all true, then being plant based might not be simple enough.
How does an animist-vegan weigh the value of an animal vs a plant?
I hear some vegans who promote the farming and consumption of insects instead of animal meat. Are all existences the same weight in value? Or is there a hierarchy?
If there is a hierarchy then perhaps its better to consume bugs and plants because their spiritual power has less influence upon you than an animal???
This train of thought is fun for me to explore. I hope my curiosity isn't offensive.
There was an ancient Greek philosopher who wrote an essay on a similar line of thinking and concluded that fruits are the best thing to eat and use for sacrifices in rituals because they are the only thing freely given by nature.
There is a type of anthropocentrism that prioritizes "near human" aspects over all else and vegans are often effected. I think whether it feels "pain" is besides the point, a beautiful tree has more value than a chicken and probably has a greater intelligence, though one harder to understand for a human. It's true that because animals have a much more similar psychology to humans that there is a more direct transfer of elements, eating the flesh of animals that were raised in those evil factories must have bad effects. I think eating domesticated animals in general can't help but "domesticate" the minds of those who do it, transferring those same tendencies.
Makes sense, makes a lot of sense!
I agree completely. For thousands of years, humans have consumed animals. But, these animals for the most part reigned free. A proper kill and use of as many body parts as possible for food, clothing, and other such items is the appropriate religious material to use for drums, mallets, etc. Proper procurement and use of animal parts is an honor to the ancestors. It wasn’t possible for many societies to abstain from animals; however, in modern society it is. Failure to use as many body parts in a kill is waste of an animal. Abuse of an animal as in modern food production is outrageous. I eat meat, but I do not condone what happens in meat markets.
Actually laughed. Thanks for that.
Curious Question: Can someone take things belonging to an Animal Spirit w/ actual permission? I don't know how that would be possible, given that the animal can't speak to me becuz they have already ☠️ Di3d. Seems a bit weird to ask a dead fellow a question of permission to take their stuff... Jus Me?
Hi everyone, does anyone know what's going on? Today is Mr.Arith's video day!!!!! Where!?
Wednesday, June 12th? What do you think?😢
I can think of the concept of animism and veganism. The issue I forsee is that some actions of violence must be done. Almost all life wants to continue and there are times to restore some natural cycle the life must end. Think of the very old Tigers and Very old lion that hunts men and has left the local ecosystem. So I can value and understand veganism, I am not one. I have been involved in life and death, and sometimes I am troubled by my disconnect with those animals I consumed. However, I live as best as I can considering my modern time.
Hmm. I have some problem with using or not using certain materials. All living things can feel pain. Not only ascendants of animal kingdom. Even fungus or plants can feel it but they sense it diferently. With our perception we tend to think the pain is only reserved for animals. And so that implies being vegan is not enough and we shoud only make tools cloths and food from minerals and air only. And here is second problem we make some of it that way. But in a process we produce things that are in some part not biodegadable witch tends to acumulate in enviroment again causing pain to living beeings. How to escape this mental trap?
we all live of one another in a way, no escape, i guess. If we'd just consume LESS of anything, food, clothes, energy the world would be fine and people much healthier. The thing is: if you actually live that way, wearing used and old (fashioned) clothes, ride an old bicycle etc. you have to face the fact you will be treated with less respect by society.
Living vegan is not fancy, it is just sold that way, it has also become a lifestyle the industry makes its profits with.
pain is a part of life, what must be done is to be respectful and purposeful at least to the extent reasonably possible. Otherwise: Some Jainists starve themselves to d3ath, all the while doing their best to not accidently step on any insects, in order to completely minimize any negative actions on their part
@zeitgeiss It is something to this. My bike is 10 years old and im bonded to him the same way Arith is boned to his drum. I shoud buy a new one years ago. But all memories i have with him just wont let me do it. I put some money money in repairs to moving parts. And i think is worth it.
Do you have the same issue with human bones? Seems too universalist for me who practices in a very traditional manner.
At this point, I do. As an archaeologist for 11 years, I have handled thousands of human bones. I have had a good look and feeling of every human bone, and thousands of skulls. I've been alone and surrouded by many of the dead. The energy/spirit whatever, is quite strong and admittedly it is not for all, if those are used in a magical practice. It can be done, it can be used, but I would not recommend it if there isn't a previous work through it in order to better handle the heavy energy that is drawn from us. I have a video on my White Wand Series where I speak of the ancestors. Although I do not speak of the bones of the dead, I do express how hard it can be to deal with ancestors, let alone the spirits of others who have no link to us. But you gave me an idea for a future video. Thank you for your comment. Have a wonderful day!
Understandable I didn't touch them till I got initiated into a tradition that uses them and actually have had a crazy experience with it I was told to lick to see if it was real and I did and later I had it in my bed room across from me and stuff away like thrown across the room with me and I asked with divination if it wanted to go home with a woman I knew and it said yes. I would say prehaps it's not a beginner form of natural magic and prehaps should be avoided without a tescher or a cultural connection to a certain practice.
Slaying the animal for the drum your using would indeed be more personal and closer to your existense
Amor você não precisa se culpar. Quando é feito um tambor, uma pessoa consciente Não Mata os animais para fazer um tambor. Pelo contrário eles ajudam o meio ambiente. Uma pessoa pega as peles com um combinado com as outras pessoas. Porquê a pele do animal não é usada e queimada. E aonde é queimada não cresce mais nada lá. Então assim não são todos que matam um animal para só fazer um tambor. Sempre temos que ver os dois lados.
Great! I bought a drum a fortnight ago on a whim. Let's do this! But, I will have roasted red beef, hot off the grill and bone.
Most people don't understand that the reason indigenous Americans would wear certain feathers was to absorb their predatorial nature when on the warpath and was considered ill advised for everyday attire because of the effect it would have on behavior
That's most interesting, would you mind to explain that in more detail, please?
Certain feathers would change their attitudes, so to speak?
@@zeitgeiss Like wearing the pelts of certain types animals, you allegedly absorb their instincts.
@@awolpeace1781 Thank you.
This isn't true. Possibly one or two tribal Nations had this mindset but you cannot make blanket statements about Indigenous people who were and are not Americans. The possessive of Americans is also wrong because we belong to our own Nations and are sovereign. We are not the property of "America"
PLANTS HAVE FEELINGS TOO.. I think the plants control man at least in areas of high vegetation... eating them seems murder.... perhaps we can learn to just live on sunlight, water, frequencies, maybe dirt or minerals, etc.... like plants themselves.. converting energies into food for our bodies
I humbly disagree, my friend. Eating meat is a species appropriate diet for humans. I hate the CAFOs, I hate the way we mass produce animals for food, but animals raised properly, in nature, is a beautiful thing and very healing for the Earth. Farming crops is so harmful to the Earth. To make room for grains and vegetables you have to practically sterilize the area, spray chemicals all over everything to maintain it and harvesting... kills a lot of animals in the process. Farming kills more animals than proper animal husbandry. Done properly, animal husbandry heals us, humans, as well as the environment. Pasture for cattle, goats, sheep, pigs, chickens, is also open to the wildlife of the area (except their natural predators of course-wolves, wild cats, bears...). Birds, insects, deer, the myriad small mammals scurrying around. If that same pasture were to be turned into a farm for grains or vegetables all of those same plants and animals would be at risk. Pesticides kill the insects and the birds that consume them. Herbicides kill everything except the target crop. The deer and the small mammals are killed or scared away. Crops use so much more water and resources than cows and sheep and chickens simply eating from the land.
Eating meat, raised properly, is the best way forward.
And as for the spiritual aspect, I believe prey animals know what they're getting into when they come into this life. They ultimately know their lives will support the lives of others. There is a quiet nobility in their sacrifice to us that I am deeply grateful for. We are all a part of this beautiful web of life. It is not always pretty or easy to deal with, but it is our place to be at the top of the food chain.
Blessed Be
this new Age vegan culture disregards the very basic roots of our very existence, spreading a bunch of lies, which you gracethi5663 spotted right on (thanks for your very articulate and on the point explanation) and seem to prey on a younger (mostly urban generation) that don't have the time (or interest) to double-check the facts.
vegetarianism isn't very ancestral.
'Vegan' witchcraft..? lmao wtf
This channel is dead, so sad.
Yeah, he is starting to loose the plot; he’s had great content and some good information in the past but now it’s getting ridiculous.
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