After one fall (HARD) three years ago, I bought dedicated winter tires with studs for my fatty. They cost less than a single doctor's office visit with X-rays. We have several fatties, and now have summer and winter tires for all. Nice video. Appreciate you showing the struggles on the trail that most of us have to go through. Too many videos only show highly skilled riders.
@@p91rider I found that installing and removing studs was too tedious for me, and found Arisun Sharktooth studded tires for less than the price of the studs for my buddy's Snowshoe XL tires. I don't have the budget for those, but the Arisun are very reasonably priced. Changing tires is easier than installing and removing the studs.
@Navybyrde that’s true, it is a lot of work installing and uninstalling studs. I end up leaving the studs and bought a set of summer tires maxxis minions fbf and fbr, change them each season.
I always rode studs, but I though, meh, I don't really need it, I can see the ice! Last ride, had 4 slips on ice, inwich the last bail could have been very bad. Conclusion; I'm installing my studded tires.
Great video, just bought a Rock Mountain A20 yesterday, guess I will studding the Cake Eaters very shortly before the snow flies. Also now I have use for the gel hand sanitizer I have LOL! Cheers
@Donny Chartier enjoy the winter rides with studded tires! You’ll love the traction. Yea, gel sanitizer save me from further blistering, haha! Ride safe.
Great video! Thanks for posting. I am thinking of buying a fat bike this winter and noticed that some bikes come with studable tires. I am curious and would like to know if you have you lost any studs?
@@MrSchattka hey, yes. Its unavoidable, especially if you always ride it on the hard pavement. As much as possible ride in the snow covered trails. I would probably lose about 20-30 studs in one season.
@Velo NH i was not prepared at all with this wooden bridge. I ride this trail often but winter is different, icy patches on wood is danger! Haha! Especially with no studs.
@Ellery Bice - Hey thanks for watching, yes I wear a 45NRTH Wolvhammer boots. The boots has no studs but super grippy in snow and ice, you can definitely put studs on these though.
@One Rider thanks! I’ll take note of the music… l’ll try to improve it on my next videos. Studs are great for traction, its a night and day difference once you have it installed. Ride safe!
Thanks, I love to watch fatbike videos! I have the Cake Eaters by Terrene and they are massive but great tires. Biggest tires available for the 27.5x4.5 size for sure but they are also heavy weight champions! I definitely feel the weight when riding and it is really killing me in long distance so I like to run a studded tire in front but change better roller on the back. My best setup is to use 27.5 in front and 26er on the back. I love to use the Schwalbe Jumbo Jim 26x4.8'' on the back because it is the same width as Terrene but way better roller. I measured about 113mm width for the both tires even though they are specified as 4.5'' vs. 4.8''. If the weather is icy, it is better to use full set of studded tires for sure. The Dillinger set is maybe better roller...
@JcoolMTB that’s a great combo! I like jumbo jims, you are correct they are fast rolling tires, I used to own a pair on my previous fat bike. I have another set of tires for summer, non studded minions fbf and fbr but in winter, studded is way to go. Looks like you have a mullet set up for your fat bike now.. 26 in the back, 27.5 in front, thats cool man! Thanks for watching!
@Bernard Blackburn thanks man! It depends, if I could find an on sale price I would buy studded already, but they are not cheap. Custom stud-able tire is cheaper option, the only thing is you have to install them, also amazon have a variety of studs that is cheaper than branded… but if money is not a problem I will get with studs installed. Also, keep in mind that once you stud it, it will stay forever and it won’t be pleasing running in the summer. I actually bought another non studded fat tire set for this bike so I can run it on summer, that’s why for me I would go for a cheaper option as I plan to have another set of tires. Hope that gives you an idea.. thanks!
@Sir Sphinx big difference on ice however on snow depending on your tire width. Not so sure about chains, I haven’t tried that yet. It would be a good comparison if there is. Thanks
@Mike Ingraham thanks for watching! It’s very subjective when it comes to tire psi. For me, I’m 170lbs I always start at 15 psi for these tires but never go below 11psi otherwise I will get tire burping especially the rear, that’s because I’m running tubeless. 11-15psi for me is the ideal but then it will also depends on your weight including gears and terrain. I think I’m in between soft and firm… also, I find that with studs even with a firm tires it can still claw but of course the softer tire grips more and hugs the ground. Hope that gives you an idea. Thanks!
@oye - wow, what a coincidence! I was just looking at fat tire psi on my phone. Ok, sorry and thanks for clearing that. The hardest the tire can be would be the best to install the studs. I probably had it at 20 psi. It’s easier to hold and push down the stud when you have the tire firm.
@@p91rider yeah. It was my question too 😅 I am planning to stud my tires, gnarwal. But i dont know the best way or psi to stud the tires. Can i remove the studs when winter is over and re use it again nxt winter? They are expensive 😬
@oye thanks man! I guess you can with the tool but I haven’t tried pulling the studs yet. I actually have to sets of tires, for winter and spring-summer-fall. The studs can fall off especially if you’re running it always in the concrete. I get studs from Amazon, its like $20 per 100pcs generic, not as expensive as 45NTRH studs but pretty much the same.
Hello! I got the same bike this year and I’m loving it and I also put studs, it feels much safer on any paved section too. Amazing how you climbed the traffic traverse, that cambered section is sketchy. Did you install a dropper post? Sometimes I find it tricky to go down on trails with the fixed one that came with the bike.
@Jorge González - Hey thanks for watching! I got lucky climbing it, the packed snow is perfect with studs during that time no ridging in the middle. Yes, I installed a dropper, it’s a PNW. I can’t ride without a dropper anymore, it’s very helpful on downhills. If your getting a dropper, make sure it’s cable actuated not the hydraulic ones as they freeze up in cold weather. But yeah I recommend putting a dropper.
I think you are really riding on dangerous trails. Almost all of the trails were narrow, with very high drop-off if you ever roll off the narrow path. If you fall, you will drop from a very high height!!
@malingehring165 the pit i fell down into is about 3-4 feet if no snow. It was soft due to snow. I know it’s looks dangerous but most of the trails in my local area are pretty safe, these are single tracks. But in this sport though, things can get rough and cause severe injuries. Good thing I put studs on, at least now I have traction on black ice.
After one fall (HARD) three years ago, I bought dedicated winter tires with studs for my fatty. They cost less than a single doctor's office visit with X-rays. We have several fatties, and now have summer and winter tires for all.
Nice video. Appreciate you showing the struggles on the trail that most of us have to go through. Too many videos only show highly skilled riders.
@Navybyrde thanks man! The sport we love can be dangerous without proper equipment sometimes.
@@p91rider I found that installing and removing studs was too tedious for me, and found Arisun Sharktooth studded tires for less than the price of the studs for my buddy's Snowshoe XL tires. I don't have the budget for those, but the Arisun are very reasonably priced. Changing tires is easier than installing and removing the studs.
@Navybyrde that’s true, it is a lot of work installing and uninstalling studs. I end up leaving the studs and bought a set of summer tires maxxis minions fbf and fbr, change them each season.
@@p91rider you will love the Minions. Great tires.
Nice to see a local boy, and man of faith, riding our local trails, sharing his experiences.
@CoreyTrogman : thanks! I’m blessed to ride in our local trail networks, same time want to spread God’s love and goodness in this sport.👍
Nice! The trails you ride in look very fun.
@OBBC MTB - thanks man! One of the best local trails we have here in our city. 👍
I always rode studs, but I though, meh, I don't really need it, I can see the ice! Last ride, had 4 slips on ice, inwich the last bail could have been very bad. Conclusion; I'm installing my studded tires.
@Erich Bachman that’s pretty much just like what I did. Haha! Well, except that I actually fell from the wooden bridge 😂
Great video, just bought a Rock Mountain A20 yesterday, guess I will studding the Cake Eaters very shortly before the snow flies. Also now I have use for the gel hand sanitizer I have LOL! Cheers
@Donny Chartier enjoy the winter rides with studded tires! You’ll love the traction. Yea, gel sanitizer save me from further blistering, haha! Ride safe.
Awesome video! I love having studs this year!
@Murray’s Adventure thanks man! For me studs is a must for winter riding here. The freeze and thaw is building up the icy patches.
Oh man, that is tedious. I still haven't gone tubeless! Be safe out - looks like tons of fun! Salamat for the video
@Live Light Thanks brother! Tedious at first but once done… you’ll have good traction, but need another set without studs for summer though.
That’s a beautiful winter trail system
@No. thanks! Edmonton offers great mtb trails within the city… some are challenging during winter, just like falling from a wood bridge.. lol!
Well done, nice to see our local trails in the Edmonton river valley.
@Megamart Darroch thanks! We have a wide variety of trails in the river valley on any season. Happy trails!
Great video! Thanks for posting.
I am thinking of buying a fat bike this winter and noticed that some bikes come with studable tires.
I am curious and would like to know if you have you lost any studs?
@@MrSchattka hey, yes. Its unavoidable, especially if you always ride it on the hard pavement. As much as possible ride in the snow covered trails. I would probably lose about 20-30 studs in one season.
Looks like a big improvement
@Gary Postell yes its a big improvement on traction especially on icy trails.
Love it! Any bridge I come to, I think...how prepared are you to fall off?
@Velo NH i was not prepared at all with this wooden bridge. I ride this trail often but winter is different, icy patches on wood is danger! Haha! Especially with no studs.
I live in Calgary. I think studs in the winter are essential here, but it depends where you are riding.
@Gerald Prost you are right it’s essential especially if you live in Alberta. 👍
Nice one bro.
Thanks bai!
And how about your footgear, are you wearing 45nrth studded winter boots?
@Ellery Bice - Hey thanks for watching, yes I wear a 45NRTH Wolvhammer boots. The boots has no studs but super grippy in snow and ice, you can definitely put studs on these though.
The music volume detracts from your message. Hot tip on the mad sanitizer, though. I’m hoping studs will give me lots more mountain rides this winter.
@One Rider thanks! I’ll take note of the music… l’ll try to improve it on my next videos. Studs are great for traction, its a night and day difference once you have it installed. Ride safe!
Thanks, I love to watch fatbike videos! I have the Cake Eaters by Terrene and they are massive but great tires. Biggest tires available for the 27.5x4.5 size for sure but they are also heavy weight champions! I definitely feel the weight when riding and it is really killing me in long distance so I like to run a studded tire in front but change better roller on the back. My best setup is to use 27.5 in front and 26er on the back. I love to use the Schwalbe Jumbo Jim 26x4.8'' on the back because it is the same width as Terrene but way better roller. I measured about 113mm width for the both tires even though they are specified as 4.5'' vs. 4.8''. If the weather is icy, it is better to use full set of studded tires for sure. The Dillinger set is maybe better roller...
@JcoolMTB that’s a great combo! I like jumbo jims, you are correct they are fast rolling tires, I used to own a pair on my previous fat bike. I have another set of tires for summer, non studded minions fbf and fbr but in winter, studded is way to go. Looks like you have a mullet set up for your fat bike now.. 26 in the back, 27.5 in front, thats cool man! Thanks for watching!
Hi P91! If you had to redo the entire process would you simply buy already studded tires? thanks, good content!
@Bernard Blackburn thanks man! It depends, if I could find an on sale price I would buy studded already, but they are not cheap. Custom stud-able tire is cheaper option, the only thing is you have to install them, also amazon have a variety of studs that is cheaper than branded… but if money is not a problem I will get with studs installed. Also, keep in mind that once you stud it, it will stay forever and it won’t be pleasing running in the summer. I actually bought another non studded fat tire set for this bike so I can run it on summer, that’s why for me I would go for a cheaper option as I plan to have another set of tires. Hope that gives you an idea.. thanks!
Ive always wonderd how it would handle on the snow and ice with studs and slipnot chains
@Sir Sphinx big difference on ice however on snow depending on your tire width. Not so sure about chains, I haven’t tried that yet. It would be a good comparison if there is. Thanks
No one ever talks about the ideal tire psi while installing the studs. What’s your opinion? Soft? Firm? Thx for the video.
@Mike Ingraham thanks for watching! It’s very subjective when it comes to tire psi. For me, I’m 170lbs I always start at 15 psi for these tires but never go below 11psi otherwise I will get tire burping especially the rear, that’s because I’m running tubeless. 11-15psi for me is the ideal but then it will also depends on your weight including gears and terrain. I think I’m in between soft and firm… also, I find that with studs even with a firm tires it can still claw but of course the softer tire grips more and hugs the ground. Hope that gives you an idea. Thanks!
@@p91rider his question is about the tire psi when installing the studs.
@oye - wow, what a coincidence! I was just looking at fat tire psi on my phone. Ok, sorry and thanks for clearing that. The hardest the tire can be would be the best to install the studs. I probably had it at 20 psi. It’s easier to hold and push down the stud when you have the tire firm.
@@p91rider yeah. It was my question too 😅
I am planning to stud my tires, gnarwal. But i dont know the best way or psi to stud the tires.
Can i remove the studs when winter is over and re use it again nxt winter? They are expensive 😬
@oye thanks man! I guess you can with the tool but I haven’t tried pulling the studs yet. I actually have to sets of tires, for winter and spring-summer-fall. The studs can fall off especially if you’re running it always in the concrete. I get studs from Amazon, its like $20 per 100pcs generic, not as expensive as 45NTRH studs but pretty much the same.
Nice video kabayan. Where are you riding in this video?
@boom salvador Salamat kabayan! This is in Edmonton area.
Where did you buy your tires??
@Gisle Myrvold it came stock with the bike.
Hello! I got the same bike this year and I’m loving it and I also put studs, it feels much safer on any paved section too. Amazing how you climbed the traffic traverse, that cambered section is sketchy. Did you install a dropper post? Sometimes I find it tricky to go down on trails with the fixed one that came with the bike.
@Jorge González - Hey thanks for watching! I got lucky climbing it, the packed snow is perfect with studs during that time no ridging in the middle. Yes, I installed a dropper, it’s a PNW. I can’t ride without a dropper anymore, it’s very helpful on downhills. If your getting a dropper, make sure it’s cable actuated not the hydraulic ones as they freeze up in cold weather. But yeah I recommend putting a dropper.
@@p91rider cool! Thanks for the info, appreciated.
Anytime brother! 👍
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Thanks man!
Reverse the rotation of your back tire. It work better for climbing and overall traction.
@Jean Boilard that’s another idea I’m going to try next time. Thanks! So far, my installed studs working great this winter.
@@p91rider great vidéo
Thank you!
I think you are really riding on dangerous trails. Almost all of the trails were narrow, with very high drop-off if you ever roll off the narrow path. If you fall, you will drop from a very high height!!
@malingehring165 the pit i fell down into is about 3-4 feet if no snow. It was soft due to snow. I know it’s looks dangerous but most of the trails in my local area are pretty safe, these are single tracks. But in this sport though, things can get rough and cause severe injuries. Good thing I put studs on, at least now I have traction on black ice.