In commemoration of the new Last Jedi Trailer, here's a ship that's almost 70 years outside of relevance lol. I am the best at planning videos you guys. :)
Probably one Imperial Class Star Destroyer. The Lucrehulk Class is more a carrier while the Imperial I & II Class are more of a Battleship. And Vulture Droids are just cheaper and worse TIEs
+Gothic7876 I agree that a Destroyer would beat a Lucrehulk. However, I suggest you check out the Spacedock Versus video of a TIE fighter battling a Vulture Droid. Prepare to be surprised.
Dang, the Empire really should have taken a page out of the Separatist's book. This thing is almost perfect for takeovers, command posts, and housing massive amounts of resources, everything the Empire does/has.
Well to be fair they had something similar on the shape of imperial domes, they were essentially fliying armored headquarters that could just go and land in the middle of an occupied zone and become the center of control of that planet like they did in lothal
And don't forget the Death Star schematic/ build plans were "appropriated" by the Empire.. through the subterfuge of Count Dooku by order of "Sidious" AKA ol Sheeve Palpatine himself. Really the whole "manufactured war" with between the Republic and the Separatists was a Tech proving ground for Imperial equipment if ya really delve into it.
I think that both the power these ships represented as well as the investment they represented are frequently underestimated. Not only is it a gigantic ship, retrofitted at great cost to become essentially a flying space fortress, it also holds a tremendous ground-based force as well. An entire Confederate theater of war could hinge on the deployment of a single one of these ships, much akin to the importance of Imperial Japan's carrier ships in WW2. Replacing one of these at full power would not only take an inordinate amount of money and resources, but more crucially time. The Clone Wars were only took 3 years. You might get two generations of these ships out by the time the war ends, so losing any would be catastrophic to the Confederate War effort.
For some the x wing is their favourite Star Wars ship for others it's the tie fighter. But for me I have always loved this ships design and functionality. Probably my favourite Star Wars ship and in the running for my favourite ship of all time.
In a one on one I believe the Lucrehulk wins, More fighters and fire power and defenses. Ventor only has the speed advantage which won't mean much when it gets swarmed by vulture droids.
What would be interesting if they did a price matched battle, which would probably be 2 fully loaded venators against a single Lucerhulk at half capacity that would be interesting.
@@SormonAusPol Even in a 1v3 battle the Hulk would win. The durability of the hulk and it's fire power GREATLY outclasses the Venators. Worst, the space battle is the Lucrehulk's greatest advantage, since droids are much better at space battle than the clone ever could that and the Lucrehulk carry much more fighters and bombers than all 3 venators combined.
It's easy to miss but towards the end of Episode 2 when Dooku's Solar Sailer is fleeing Geonosis, Core Ships can be seen redocking with the rest of the hull
@@VegetaLF7 I've seen that. Really glad they added that detail in. Adds context, and consistency, and a hint of realism, to everything. (Though i think it was made to move a bit too quick for it's size lol)
The sad thing about the prequels is that the best things in them were the new ships and units they introduced. Before that we had only seen droids as navigators, mechanics (R2-D2) and diplomants/interpreters (C-3PO), but never as combat units. The B1s were pretty cool, but the Droidekas were just awesome for me in 1999. As were the Lucrehulk Class Battleships, which we just called those "those donut-shaped things". Before that capital ships were either all Imperial Class Star Destroyers or had a slightly odd shape like the Mon Calamari Star Cruisers (we described them as "flying turds"). The Lucrehulks were a radical departure from typical capital ship design, althoug they weren't built and used as such in Episode I.
@@hafor2846 True, but those were choreographed to the point where it ironically became uninteresting. As good as the fight between Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon Jinn and Maul was, there was little to no emotional depth to be found. It was just three guys swinging glowsticks at each other. Period. Luke fighting Vader in Cloud City and on the Death Star II wasn't nearly as technically impressive, but the emotional tension was almost phyiscally real, especially when Luke just snapped and started beating down Vader with all his rage.
@@Corristo89 I disagree as I would argue the Anakin/Kenobi Mustafar duel accomplishes both. Especially once you discover that Ewan and Hayden aren't being sped up framerate wise that much and that's why they are drenched in sweat by the end... because they ARE.
The phantom menace is my favorite 'modern' star wars movie imo, i was 7 years old when it came out, can you imagine how cool it was to see this in the cinema, that podracer event with the sound still gives me goosebumps. And not to speak of all those droids, darth maul, Qui-gon!
Lucrehulk's are one of my favorite Star Wars ships. Big, and imposing. I often wonder what the Rebel Alliance could have done with a Lucrehulk or two in the fleet. I imagine they could play a carrier role similar to the carrier Phoenix Squadron had; but with much larger capacity. I just like imagining wings of X-Wings, Y-Wings, and A-wings all in those two large hangers on the Lucrehulk.
While the Trade Federation of the Clone Wars was dissolved, I'm curious what a post Endor equivalent of this craft might be. While I don't imagine seeing one in canon, it would be interesting to see newer models of the craft or retrofit an original. Maybe the newer design would carry more people than droids or a larger weapons platform to go toe to toe with star destroyers. With sufficient escort and hardware updates, one of these could go hard against the first order or other imperial remnants, that'd be a sight to see.
So, by my calculations, the Naboo Invasion Force consisted of: 19 Lucrehulks, at least 2.641.000 battledroids, 950 landingcraft, 10.450 multitroop transports, 123.880 tanks, and 28.500 Vulture droids.
Also, this video uses canon sources. The Armament was far more extensive in Legends. Frankly I think it makes more sense that it just has a fairly small defensive armament. I'm not a fan of 'Do everything' ships.
This is one, if not the best space superiority carrier/battleship hybrid in the Star Wars universe. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that considering the size of the vessel, shouldn't it be able to carry more fighters and other stuff?
I've always wondered what the Lucrehulk's were supposed to dock with. With those massive docking claws it looks like the gap in the ring should slot into some sort of even larger space station but I've not been able to find any artwork showing such a thing.
Pre-Clone Wars refitting: Quad turbolaser batteries (42) Clone Wars improvements: Ring carrier: Point-defense quad laser batteries (164) Assault laser cannons (472) Turbolasers (48) Core ship: Point-defense quad laser batteries (21) Assault laser cannons (48) Turbolasers (3) but I do not know why the number of fighters or the amount of cargo was not burning
In legends its referenced these things do have some serious offensive firepower, with long guns and heavy guns... whatever those are. I would imagine long guns would be larger long barreled turbo lasers. the heavy guns are described at artillery, so something like a flak cannon or mass driver cannons. these guns would be pack in by the quad turbolaser batteries. these battleships also have over 400 laser cannons to boot. they have firepower, but we don't have a clear understanding of just how much. I'd love to see how they would get further upgraded if the clone wars dragged on longer.
Older B1 battle-droids are known as OOM series battle droids. The newer models employed by the CIS were a completely separate model, as opposed to simply a refit although they did have many similarities.
I see the thumbnail: "Oh hey it's those blockade stations from the prequels and Clone Wars series." Me halfway through the video: "WAIT, THOSE THINGS CAN MOVE?! I thought they were immobile orbiting space stations." 3/4 through the video: "THEY CAN DETACH AND REATTACH THE SPHERE PORTIONS?! I thought the sphere thingy in Episode 2 was a prototype Death Star!" (Needless to say, I learned a lot from this video.)
That serious design flaw was revealed during the Battle of Naboo where a former slave of the Planet Tatooine in a Naboo N1 starfighter ended up crash landing in the hangar bay of one of the Lucrehulk command ships and after restoring power and putting up his shields he started firing the fighters weapons and it was just sheer luck he fired the proton torpedoes that were in direct line of sight with the ships main reactor and after destroying it caused a chain reaction that completely destroyed the ship after that pilot managed to escape the hangar bay and that pilot who did all that was ex slave and future Jedi Padawan and clone wars hero Anakin Skywalker.
Do you think a Lucrehulk could serve as both a mobile ore processing plant, and fighter / corvette / frigate manufacturing ship or would two ships be required to perform the function of ore processing and star ship manufacturing. Fighters and other small craft could be produced internally, while larger craft could be built using a shipyard facility attached to the inner ring in the space between the core ship and the main body. On a separate battleship focused configuration, would the addition of 12 to 16 heavy turbo laser turrets on the dorsal and vectoral hull, combined with additional heavy weapon placements along the equatorial ring make the Lucrehulk a more competitive battleship in capital ship encounters?
One of the most epic ships in the galaxy. But I have a few ideas to make it better. first, convert the edges of the ring and outer section into full-scale offensive gun batteries. The inner ring would be were 4 cross section hanger bays would be. As for the control sphere itself, the center has an energy pulse cannon. Heavy octuplet barbette turbolasers cannons that spans the ring,top and bottom...
Love your vids! Keep up the good work! Since we're talking about the Clone Wars, how about smaller support ships, like the Pelta Class Frigate, or the Charger C-70 Corvette?
The one problem I found with the CIS came from the Clone Wars show...the CGI cartoon not the drawn cartoon. They accused the Republic of being full of corrupt individuals and under the control of businesses, while they themselves were being lead by corrupt individuals and under the control of big businesses.
I mean, what’s a right wing separatist movement without hypocritical, bad faith arguments? They weren’t upset the Republic was controlled by big corporations and corrupt individuals, they were upset it wasn’t controlled by *their* big corporations and corrupt individuals!
And just think- Queen Amidala went up against a Trade Federation backed with a number of these and won. A battle between her and Thrawn would be a sight to behold.
a 9 year old destroyed a lucrehulk by accident. the new republic was nearly bought to its knees by a tactical genius. i don't see the fight, i see a massacre.
Bobo Squiggilywinks Here's the thing- only one part of Amidala's plan needed to be successful: capturing the Viceroy. Everything else was simply stalling possible avenues of reinforcement or rescue. The Naboo Starfighters needed to distract the Trade Federation's fighters from either rushing to the aid of the Viceroy or the droid armies battling the Gungans. The Gungans needed to draw the droid armies far enough away from the capital that they couldn't respond to a distress signal from the Viceroy in time. The Jedi needed to occupy Darth Maul long enough for Amidala to capture the Viceroy. This is the only point where failure would result in utter defeat, since Maul could easily reach the throne room in time to rescue the Viceroy because he's not an army with thousands of parts having to move in sync with one another. Neither the Trade Federation's starfighters nor its droids could move that quickly. Amidala could have taken herself, her bodyguards, and the Jedi, and captured the Viceroy under the cover of darkness. The Jedi would still face Darth Maul to occupy him, but that would have been it. So yeah, I have to wonder what would happen in a full-scale battle between Amidala and Thrawn.
Reality Rejection Service Thrawn ordered three simultaneous attacks on New Republic territory, recalling them before NR reinforcements arrived, then used mining probes to capture the damaged vessels. Even though he was unsuccessful in capturing the ships, the New Republic was forced to scuttle their fleet. Also, Padme was captured, the Gungans defeated and the star fighters nearly annihilated. The only reason she succeeded was Anakin destroying the droid control ship, so in his own words "YIPEE!"
What would you say is the exchange rate to Venators to Lucrehulks? Fighters included of course. I say it would take a 3-1 advantage and even then 1 Venator may go down if the fighters focus on it.
DB6195 if I remember correctly the CW tv series 1 Venator never managed to succeed in attacking a Lucrehulk ever at all. There was always at least 3 Venators in a battlegroup whenever there was a Lucrehulk in any battle.
And even then, if the Venators fighters got overwhelmed they'd have major issues taking out a Lucerhulk. Just because it is so big and has so much open space it'd be hard to kill. Plus she has guns going all around her so you can't really flank. I like the Legends version which upguns it and makes it even tougher.
In the Republic at War mod for Empire at War: FoC, you can do 1 on 1 if you know how to use your fighters right. While the internal stocks of fighters are huge on a Lucrehulk, it can only deploy like 6 squadrons of fighters and 3 of Hyenas at a time. Each Venator comes with a total of 12 V-19/V-wing squadrons and 4 of Y-wings/ARC-170s, half of which can be deployed at any time. What I tend to do is group up all my fighters and bombers into 2 separate groups, send in my fighters first to engage theirs, then have my bombers kill the 2 hangar bays with their proton torpedoes(which go right through the shields). With no way to deploy more fighters, the Lucrehulk is screwed. I then go for the shield generators, then the engines(in case they try to retreat). By the time those are all knocked out, my Venator is in range and starts hammering on the Lucrehulk. And the Lucrehulk costs 8000 credits while the Venator only costs 5500 credits, which is nice early game, while you are still getting set up. Granted, When I'm using my main battle fleet, it has like 8 Venators and 8 Victory-class Star Destroyers, which have 4 squadrons of fighters. So I can have 64 fighters and 16 bombers out at once. And the fighters can 100-0 a frigate in 10 seconds if they all attack it.
Star Wars lacks "Carrier" as a distintive role, both imperial Star destroyers and Mon Calamari cruisers carry enough small craft yet are still battleships.
@@nahuelleandroarroyo Lucrehulk is probably the MOST carrier liked "Carrier" in star wars. Most other ships are either not specialized enough or just plain old too small.
I won't pretend it's the best choice. I just love the idea of a dedicated Carrier/Invasion Ship that's main advantage is stupid numbers. Besides Big is Beautiful.
I have to admit, had the CIS gotten ahold of the Venators there would have been no chance of ever beating a planetary invasion. The Lucrehulk would be the main support ship whilst the Venator was used to provide more specialized fighters and troops.
What always bugged me about the Space Donut (aka Lucrehulk) is that it has so much room inside. I mean, droids don't care about comfort (look at the HMP Gunship for instance, that was total practicality), so why do they need human-like hallways, hangars, room and so much space? They could have fit even more stuff inside the Space Donut if they've used their storage better.
Remember, the Lucrehulks were converted into warships, the original cargo vessels probably used a lot of human personnel before the arrival of the B1s, thus the human-sized hallways.
They were converted from cargo ships originally, in which case the large hangers and corridors would have made cargo transfer easier. Unfortunately for them, this also makes it easier for a proton torpedo to fly though those areas and hit the main reactor.
Wow 3 kilometers in size geeze and here I thought the Emperial Executor Class Super Star Destroyers were big at over 19,000 meters in length and over 4,000 meters wide the Lucrehulk Class makes the Executor class look tiny by comparison.
Apparently George Lucas didn’t like the lucerhulk appearing in separatists fleets for the early seasons of clone wars. These ships were still used by the trade federation which was on paper still neutral (despite Nute Gunray still being the viceroy) George stated that the separatists lucerhulks should have only appeared in episode 3 the idea was more of the trade federation started joining the Separatists as it appeared they would win the war and the battle of Coresant was the last gamble where the separatists threw most fob the their eggs into the basket
I have made a mk 2 variant that became symbol of demoralization for both empire and rogue cell the first order, and yuuzhan vong It’s called the Titan hive for it can release a swarm of gundam like mechs called titans
Can I just mention Once the clone wars did begin lucrehulks were modified with more turbolasers One of the larger numbers I think was up to 640 turbolasers
wait by 42 'batteries' do you mean 42 turbolaser quad mounts or 42 batteries containing multiple turbolaser quad mounts? The term 'batteries' generally refers to emplacements with multiple gun mounts.
I wish this ship was in the RA with a competent commander and a appropriate complement of arms, fighters, troops and crew. Crew of 9k, 2k troops, 1k pilots 144 Y-Wings 144 Z-95 144 R-22 24 N-1 24 Toscan 8-Q 24 Whitecloaks and 250 modified light freighters. The LBS will have 7 main engines with 14 smaller ones giving it the speed of a ISD. Multiple reactors giving the power output of 2 ISDs. 60 Heavy Turbolasers 60 Heavy Ion Cannons 120 PTDL 80 flak blisters with 20 Tractor Beams and 64 missile tubes firing Heavy and medium Concussion Missiles, Ion and Proton torpedoes and bombs. All this and a class 1 Hyperdrive and a class 4 backup. Plz no comments on the Fortressa.
That was a good description of the Lucrehulk droid control ship but wasnt the battleship version on it retrofitted with much better firepower and even improved shielding?
Although, after refits during the Clone Wars, many Lucrehulks ended up with what's described as, 'Hundreds of turbolaser batteries' which honestly would have placed them at far more powerful than any battleship of their era in terms of firepower.
A long shot, how about a look at the USAF Project Orion "Space Battleship"? Sure artwork is scarce, but how would real life stand up to Sci/Fi? 200 20MT Thermonuclear missiles arrayed in 3 banks of 30 silos 3 five inch guns 6 Casaba- Howitzers (a direct energy weapon based on the pulse drive, a multi-kiloton nuclear blast focused to a single point..ie a cheap phaser) 6 20mm CIWS turrets for point defense The pusher plate used to turn nuclear blasts into propulsion was intended to double as a defensive shield On paper, a 1960's real life design can match a Galaxy Class Starship in combat (having a decided volume of fire advantage, 30 20MT missiles per salvo vs 5 60MT photon torpedoes.) Could be fun, breif over view of the Strategic Air Command's ambitious plans for the vessel (and the "Doomsday Orion" sibling) followed by a short comparison of how Cold War ingenuity would stack up against notable science fiction vessels
In commemoration of the new Last Jedi Trailer, here's a ship that's almost 70 years outside of relevance lol. I am the best at planning videos you guys. :)
Was there any doubt? Send in the giant donuts...er, I mean Lucrehulks.
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Can you do a video on the Federation Starbase in Star Trek 3 ? Please.
Probably one Imperial Class Star Destroyer. The Lucrehulk Class is more a carrier while the Imperial I & II Class are more of a Battleship. And Vulture Droids are just cheaper and worse TIEs
+Gothic7876 I agree that a Destroyer would beat a Lucrehulk. However, I suggest you check out the Spacedock Versus video of a TIE fighter battling a Vulture Droid. Prepare to be surprised.
Dang, the Empire really should have taken a page out of the Separatist's book. This thing is almost perfect for takeovers, command posts, and housing massive amounts of resources, everything the Empire does/has.
Tarkin doctrine,my friend
Well to be fair they had something similar on the shape of imperial domes, they were essentially fliying armored headquarters that could just go and land in the middle of an occupied zone and become the center of control of that planet like they did in lothal
@@lillith3159 I completely forgot about those, thanks.
And don't forget the Death Star schematic/ build plans were "appropriated" by the Empire.. through the subterfuge of Count Dooku by order of "Sidious" AKA ol Sheeve Palpatine himself.
Really the whole
"manufactured war" with between the Republic and the Separatists was a Tech proving ground for Imperial equipment if ya really delve into it.
I think that both the power these ships represented as well as the investment they represented are frequently underestimated. Not only is it a gigantic ship, retrofitted at great cost to become essentially a flying space fortress, it also holds a tremendous ground-based force as well. An entire Confederate theater of war could hinge on the deployment of a single one of these ships, much akin to the importance of Imperial Japan's carrier ships in WW2. Replacing one of these at full power would not only take an inordinate amount of money and resources, but more crucially time. The Clone Wars were only took 3 years. You might get two generations of these ships out by the time the war ends, so losing any would be catastrophic to the Confederate War effort.
For some the x wing is their favourite Star Wars ship for others it's the tie fighter. But for me I have always loved this ships design and functionality. Probably my favourite Star Wars ship and in the running for my favourite ship of all time.
It's a nice ship but Venator>all :/
In a one on one I believe the Lucrehulk wins, More fighters and fire power and defenses. Ventor only has the speed advantage which won't mean much when it gets swarmed by vulture droids.
SimonAndKeithStudios Dude the Lucrehulk is 3 times the size of a Venator
Of course it would win in an 1v1
What would be interesting if they did a price matched battle, which would probably be 2 fully loaded venators against a single Lucerhulk at half capacity that would be interesting.
@@SormonAusPol Even in a 1v3 battle the Hulk would win. The durability of the hulk and it's fire power GREATLY outclasses the Venators. Worst, the space battle is the Lucrehulk's greatest advantage, since droids are much better at space battle than the clone ever could that and the Lucrehulk carry much more fighters and bombers than all 3 venators combined.
Lucre- money. Hulk- chunk or large mass of something. Very subtle, Lucas.
I kicked myself for not picking up on the joke sooner.
Flathead Gg244 The Rebellion was conservative. They were the Alliance to Restore the Republic, meaning Make the Galaxy Great Again.
Flathead Gg244 Minarchism is not evil.
It's a pretty decent name considering they were originally super-freighters for interstellar trade.
Huh, never realized the spheres from Ep 2 were the core of the carriers from Ep1.
It's easy to miss but towards the end of Episode 2 when Dooku's Solar Sailer is fleeing Geonosis, Core Ships can be seen redocking with the rest of the hull
@@VegetaLF7 I've seen that.
Really glad they added that detail in.
Adds context, and consistency, and a hint of realism, to everything.
(Though i think it was made to move a bit too quick for it's size lol)
Same lmao
I always liked this ship, its a cool space station/warship crossover!
You should do Red Dwarf next! For the Season 12 launch! :D
I wonder if Lucrehulk was chosen as the class name because of its Trade Federation origins. Lucre + Hulk = Big Money?
Sly sonnofabitch
That’s actually very clever.
It's a big 'C' for 'coin'
When I was a kid, i always called them "Saturn Ships", because they reminded me of the Planet.
@@NormanBates456 I called them donut ships
The background music brings me back too some good old days.. I always liked the Lucrehulk and nice vid Spacedock
TheRevyFilms can u tell me name of this music?
Knights of the Old Republic
This was and still is my all time favourite ship designed.
The sad thing about the prequels is that the best things in them were the new ships and units they introduced. Before that we had only seen droids as navigators, mechanics (R2-D2) and diplomants/interpreters (C-3PO), but never as combat units. The B1s were pretty cool, but the Droidekas were just awesome for me in 1999. As were the Lucrehulk Class Battleships, which we just called those "those donut-shaped things". Before that capital ships were either all Imperial Class Star Destroyers or had a slightly odd shape like the Mon Calamari Star Cruisers (we described them as "flying turds"). The Lucrehulks were a radical departure from typical capital ship design, althoug they weren't built and used as such in Episode I.
I think the actually interesting lightsaber fights were the best thing in the prequels.
With new ships being second :D
@@hafor2846 True, but those were choreographed to the point where it ironically became uninteresting. As good as the fight between Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon Jinn and Maul was, there was little to no emotional depth to be found. It was just three guys swinging glowsticks at each other. Period. Luke fighting Vader in Cloud City and on the Death Star II wasn't nearly as technically impressive, but the emotional tension was almost phyiscally real, especially when Luke just snapped and started beating down Vader with all his rage.
@@Corristo89 I disagree as I would argue the Anakin/Kenobi Mustafar duel accomplishes both. Especially once you discover that Ewan and Hayden aren't being sped up framerate wise that much and that's why they are drenched in sweat by the end... because they ARE.
The phantom menace is my favorite 'modern' star wars movie imo, i was 7 years old when it came out, can you imagine how cool it was to see this in the cinema, that podracer event with the sound still gives me goosebumps. And not to speak of all those droids, darth maul, Qui-gon!
TALK ABOUT THE WARSHIP VERSION OF THE LUCREHULK WHICH HAD OVER 300 HEAVY QUAD TURBO LASERS AND TONS OF POINT DEFENSE LASERS AND EVEN STRONGER SHIELDS!
These are one of my favorite SW ships. Very versatile.
Lucrehulk's are one of my favorite Star Wars ships. Big, and imposing. I often wonder what the Rebel Alliance could have done with a Lucrehulk or two in the fleet. I imagine they could play a carrier role similar to the carrier Phoenix Squadron had; but with much larger capacity. I just like imagining wings of X-Wings, Y-Wings, and A-wings all in those two large hangers on the Lucrehulk.
I love the Lucrehulk! Best ship in Star Wars in my opinion.
These videos are amazing. They seem like a real documentary
Thank you for taking my suggestion!!
While the Trade Federation of the Clone Wars was dissolved, I'm curious what a post Endor equivalent of this craft might be. While I don't imagine seeing one in canon, it would be interesting to see newer models of the craft or retrofit an original. Maybe the newer design would carry more people than droids or a larger weapons platform to go toe to toe with star destroyers. With sufficient escort and hardware updates, one of these could go hard against the first order or other imperial remnants, that'd be a sight to see.
So, by my calculations, the Naboo Invasion Force consisted of: 19 Lucrehulks, at least 2.641.000 battledroids, 950 landingcraft, 10.450 multitroop transports, 123.880 tanks, and 28.500 Vulture droids.
Actual lucrehulk bb's had a hell of a lot more turbo lasers (some sources stating hundreds) the 40 quad mounts is from the dcs over naboo
42 quad turbos means 42 4 barelled guns. 42 x 4 = 168, aka hundreds of turbolasers.
Also, this video uses canon sources. The Armament was far more extensive in Legends. Frankly I think it makes more sense that it just has a fairly small defensive armament. I'm not a fan of 'Do everything' ships.
Spacedock Indeed, i like things to very clearly be specialized. Fulfill a very specific role that's needed to be filled.
@@Spacedock can you do a video on the lucrehulk ship using legends?
All right raise your hand if the first time you saw this ship in The Phantom Menace you thought:
"What's with the Death star with a ring?"
I watched the movies in chronological order, so I never made that connection
George Hamilton I don't really remember, but I think back then I didn't really make that connection
🤚aye 😐
For me it was thinking it looked like a donut and donut hole.
The Trade Federation listens to Beyonce. They liked it and decided to put a ring on it.
This is one, if not the best space superiority carrier/battleship hybrid in the Star Wars universe. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that considering the size of the vessel, shouldn't it be able to carry more fighters and other stuff?
I've always wondered what the Lucrehulk's were supposed to dock with. With those massive docking claws it looks like the gap in the ring should slot into some sort of even larger space station but I've not been able to find any artwork showing such a thing.
Would love to see videos from you on the ships from warhammer 40k.
I love the kotor2 music in the background
ah my favorite star wars ship.
I love your videos, put together so nicely
The center sphere reminds me of a battletech union class dropship
Pre-Clone Wars refitting:
Quad turbolaser batteries (42)
Clone Wars improvements:
Ring carrier:
Point-defense quad laser batteries (164)
Assault laser cannons (472)
Turbolasers (48)
Core ship:
Point-defense quad laser batteries (21)
Assault laser cannons (48)
Turbolasers (3)
but I do not know why the number of fighters or the amount of cargo was not burning
In legends its referenced these things do have some serious offensive firepower, with long guns and heavy guns... whatever those are. I would imagine long guns would be larger long barreled turbo lasers. the heavy guns are described at artillery, so something like a flak cannon or mass driver cannons. these guns would be pack in by the quad turbolaser batteries. these battleships also have over 400 laser cannons to boot. they have firepower, but we don't have a clear understanding of just how much. I'd love to see how they would get further upgraded if the clone wars dragged on longer.
Older B1 battle-droids are known as OOM series battle droids. The newer models employed by the CIS were a completely separate model, as opposed to simply a refit although they did have many similarities.
I can't wait to the Porg Feathers of Doom Class Dreadnought lol
Prauf:"Well,would you look at that? A Separatist ship. Haven't seen a Lucrehulk in ages!"
I see the thumbnail: "Oh hey it's those blockade stations from the prequels and Clone Wars series."
Me halfway through the video: "WAIT, THOSE THINGS CAN MOVE?! I thought they were immobile orbiting space stations."
3/4 through the video: "THEY CAN DETACH AND REATTACH THE SPHERE PORTIONS?! I thought the sphere thingy in Episode 2 was a prototype Death Star!"
(Needless to say, I learned a lot from this video.)
This one of my favorite capitol ships.
I have never clicked so fast
That serious design flaw was revealed during the Battle of Naboo where a former slave of the Planet Tatooine in a Naboo N1 starfighter ended up crash landing in the hangar bay of one of the Lucrehulk command ships and after restoring power and putting up his shields he started firing the fighters weapons and it was just sheer luck he fired the proton torpedoes that were in direct line of sight with the ships main reactor and after destroying it caused a chain reaction that completely destroyed the ship after that pilot managed to escape the hangar bay and that pilot who did all that was ex slave and future Jedi Padawan and clone wars hero Anakin Skywalker.
Do you think a Lucrehulk could serve as both a mobile ore processing plant, and fighter / corvette / frigate manufacturing ship or would two ships be required to perform the function of ore processing and star ship manufacturing. Fighters and other small craft could be produced internally, while larger craft could be built using a shipyard facility attached to the inner ring in the space between the core ship and the main body.
On a separate battleship focused configuration, would the addition of 12 to 16 heavy turbo laser turrets on the dorsal and vectoral hull, combined with additional heavy weapon placements along the equatorial ring make the Lucrehulk a more competitive battleship in capital ship encounters?
One of the most epic ships in the galaxy. But I have a few ideas to make it better. first, convert the edges of the ring and outer section into full-scale offensive gun batteries. The inner ring would be were 4 cross section hanger bays would be. As for the control sphere itself, the center has an energy pulse cannon. Heavy octuplet barbette turbolasers cannons that spans the ring,top and bottom...
Yeessss! This is my favorite ship in star wars, I'll take two!
Please cover the SDF-1 or Veritech fighter from Macross por favor. Regardless, love everything you do!
Love your vids! Keep up the good work! Since we're talking about the Clone Wars, how about smaller support ships, like the Pelta Class Frigate, or the Charger C-70 Corvette?
Loved this ship from Star Wars Republic Commando, my hands down favourite Star Wars game (yes, even more than KOTOR1)
The one problem I found with the CIS came from the Clone Wars show...the CGI cartoon not the drawn cartoon. They accused the Republic of being full of corrupt individuals and under the control of businesses, while they themselves were being lead by corrupt individuals and under the control of big businesses.
I mean, what’s a right wing separatist movement without hypocritical, bad faith arguments? They weren’t upset the Republic was controlled by big corporations and corrupt individuals, they were upset it wasn’t controlled by *their* big corporations and corrupt individuals!
@@FlameDarkfire as opposed to left wing imperialist/fascist movements? LOL
@@phillipmargrave get back to me when the tankies accomplish anything.
@@FlameDarkfire idk what “tankies” means I was just getting at extremists on all sides usually are hypocrites
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And just think- Queen Amidala went up against a Trade Federation backed with a number of these and won. A battle between her and Thrawn would be a sight to behold.
a 9 year old destroyed a lucrehulk by accident.
the new republic was nearly bought to its knees by a tactical genius.
i don't see the fight, i see a massacre.
Bobo Squiggilywinks Here's the thing- only one part of Amidala's plan needed to be successful: capturing the Viceroy. Everything else was simply stalling possible avenues of reinforcement or rescue.
The Naboo Starfighters needed to distract the Trade Federation's fighters from either rushing to the aid of the Viceroy or the droid armies battling the Gungans.
The Gungans needed to draw the droid armies far enough away from the capital that they couldn't respond to a distress signal from the Viceroy in time.
The Jedi needed to occupy Darth Maul long enough for Amidala to capture the Viceroy. This is the only point where failure would result in utter defeat, since Maul could easily reach the throne room in time to rescue the Viceroy because he's not an army with thousands of parts having to move in sync with one another.
Neither the Trade Federation's starfighters nor its droids could move that quickly.
Amidala could have taken herself, her bodyguards, and the Jedi, and captured the Viceroy under the cover of darkness. The Jedi would still face Darth Maul to occupy him, but that would have been it.
So yeah, I have to wonder what would happen in a full-scale battle between Amidala and Thrawn.
Spinning is a good trick.
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Thrawn ordered three simultaneous attacks on New Republic territory, recalling them before NR reinforcements arrived, then used mining probes to capture the damaged vessels. Even though he was unsuccessful in capturing the ships, the New Republic was forced to scuttle their fleet.
Also, Padme was captured, the Gungans defeated and the star fighters nearly annihilated. The only reason she succeeded was Anakin destroying the droid control ship, so in his own words "YIPEE!"
What would you say is the exchange rate to Venators to Lucrehulks? Fighters included of course.
I say it would take a 3-1 advantage and even then 1 Venator may go down if the fighters focus on it.
DB6195 if I remember correctly the CW tv series 1 Venator never managed to succeed in attacking a Lucrehulk ever at all. There was always at least 3 Venators in a battlegroup whenever there was a Lucrehulk in any battle.
And even then, if the Venators fighters got overwhelmed they'd have major issues taking out a Lucerhulk. Just because it is so big and has so much open space it'd be hard to kill. Plus she has guns going all around her so you can't really flank. I like the Legends version which upguns it and makes it even tougher.
In the Republic at War mod for Empire at War: FoC, you can do 1 on 1 if you know how to use your fighters right. While the internal stocks of fighters are huge on a Lucrehulk, it can only deploy like 6 squadrons of fighters and 3 of Hyenas at a time. Each Venator comes with a total of 12 V-19/V-wing squadrons and 4 of Y-wings/ARC-170s, half of which can be deployed at any time. What I tend to do is group up all my fighters and bombers into 2 separate groups, send in my fighters first to engage theirs, then have my bombers kill the 2 hangar bays with their proton torpedoes(which go right through the shields). With no way to deploy more fighters, the Lucrehulk is screwed. I then go for the shield generators, then the engines(in case they try to retreat). By the time those are all knocked out, my Venator is in range and starts hammering on the Lucrehulk. And the Lucrehulk costs 8000 credits while the Venator only costs 5500 credits, which is nice early game, while you are still getting set up. Granted, When I'm using my main battle fleet, it has like 8 Venators and 8 Victory-class Star Destroyers, which have 4 squadrons of fighters. So I can have 64 fighters and 16 bombers out at once. And the fighters can 100-0 a frigate in 10 seconds if they all attack it.
Nice video 👍
When you make a request on Patreon, and the video actually comes out.
I’m a simple man with simple tastes. I see canon, I like the video.
I love this ship. It is a logistics manager's wet dream!
Nice Narration somehow reminds me of Total Annilation briefing
my favourite ship
WOW! I want one but only one tenth of the size it is now !
I know this is kinda nitpicking, but I just find it interesting that Star Wars considers this to be a "battleship" when it's clearly a carrier.
The Ventador was also classed as a cruiser, despite being a carrier. Classification is based on size, not role.
Star Wars lacks "Carrier" as a distintive role, both imperial Star destroyers and Mon Calamari cruisers carry enough small craft yet are still battleships.
@@nahuelleandroarroyo Lucrehulk is probably the MOST carrier liked "Carrier" in star wars.
Most other ships are either not specialized enough or just plain old too small.
Probably because it could tank damage like a battleship and had tons of space to add a lot of gun
Anyone know of images or video from clone wars or ep.II of the core ships reconnecting to the rest of the donut?
If I were a admiral in the SW Galaxy this is what I'd want as my flagship.
RobbaFett34 star destroyers
If the Death Star has taught us anything there's no accounting for space wizards
*YIPEE*
RobbaFett34 really? I would prefer an executor
I won't pretend it's the best choice. I just love the idea of a dedicated Carrier/Invasion Ship that's main advantage is stupid numbers.
Besides Big is Beautiful.
You should do a vorlon cruiser.
I have to admit, had the CIS gotten ahold of the Venators there would have been no chance of ever beating a planetary invasion. The Lucrehulk would be the main support ship whilst the Venator was used to provide more specialized fighters and troops.
What always bugged me about the Space Donut (aka Lucrehulk) is that it has so much room inside. I mean, droids don't care about comfort (look at the HMP Gunship for instance, that was total practicality), so why do they need human-like hallways, hangars, room and so much space? They could have fit even more stuff inside the Space Donut if they've used their storage better.
Because of the living crew members, probably.
Remember, the Lucrehulks were converted into warships, the original cargo vessels probably used a lot of human personnel before the arrival of the B1s, thus the human-sized hallways.
In legends they weren't designed for droids and were modified to be droid control ships.
They were converted from cargo ships originally, in which case the large hangers and corridors would have made cargo transfer easier. Unfortunately for them, this also makes it easier for a proton torpedo to fly though those areas and hit the main reactor.
Wow 3 kilometers in size geeze and here I thought the Emperial Executor Class Super Star Destroyers were big at over 19,000 meters in length and over 4,000 meters wide the Lucrehulk Class makes the Executor class look tiny by comparison.
Ah, yes!
The Colorado spaceship.
havy planned to do series on space stacions too
This is my favorite capital ship
Apparently George Lucas didn’t like the lucerhulk appearing in separatists fleets for the early seasons of clone wars.
These ships were still used by the trade federation which was on paper still neutral (despite Nute Gunray still being the viceroy) George stated that the separatists lucerhulks should have only appeared in episode 3 the idea was more of the trade federation started joining the Separatists as it appeared they would win the war and the battle of Coresant was the last gamble where the separatists threw most fob the their eggs into the basket
Please make a video for the recusant class light destroyer
I'd love to have a lucrehulk but a Supercarrier version that was 50,000 meters wide! It could be a mobile station and capital ships could dock with it
Please do a Planetside video on the Goliath from the Resistance games, or something from the Battletech & Mechwarrior universe.
I have made a mk 2 variant that became symbol of demoralization for both empire and rogue cell the first order, and yuuzhan vong
It’s called the Titan hive for it can release a swarm of gundam like mechs called titans
Can you do the shrike, or any other ship, from the Honorverse please,
What are the arm clamps on the front of the ship for?
Can I just mention
Once the clone wars did begin lucrehulks were modified with more turbolasers
One of the larger numbers I think was up to 640 turbolasers
wait by 42 'batteries' do you mean 42 turbolaser quad mounts or 42 batteries containing multiple turbolaser quad mounts? The term 'batteries' generally refers to emplacements with multiple gun mounts.
I wish this ship was in the RA with a competent commander and a appropriate complement of arms, fighters, troops and crew. Crew of 9k, 2k troops, 1k pilots 144 Y-Wings 144 Z-95 144 R-22 24 N-1 24 Toscan 8-Q 24 Whitecloaks and 250 modified light freighters. The LBS will have 7 main engines with 14 smaller ones giving it the speed of a ISD. Multiple reactors giving the power output of 2 ISDs. 60 Heavy Turbolasers 60 Heavy Ion Cannons 120 PTDL 80 flak blisters with 20 Tractor Beams and 64 missile tubes firing Heavy and medium Concussion Missiles, Ion and Proton torpedoes and bombs. All this and a class 1 Hyperdrive and a class 4 backup. Plz no comments on the Fortressa.
Can you do cross series fleet battle simulations?
Cool video. Can you so a video on the Hammer Head from Space Above and Beyond.
I second a Hammerhead video.
That was a good description of the Lucrehulk droid control ship but wasnt the battleship version on it retrofitted with much better firepower and even improved shielding?
I know that song is from KOTOR, but which song is it? It's one of my favorites.
Please do the Recusant Class Destroyer
So, how many synonyms for "really big" was used in the description?
What music used during video?
Although, after refits during the Clone Wars, many Lucrehulks ended up with what's described as, 'Hundreds of turbolaser batteries' which honestly would have placed them at far more powerful than any battleship of their era in terms of firepower.
Recusant class next please
Do the wraith hive ship next
I really want one
Will you do an episode about Dark matter ships ? x)
Doesn't the Lucrehulk's silhouette look like the Rebel Alliance Symbol if the opening is facing up?
Would you do the Romulan Mogai (Valdore) class?
finally i know how to read the name :D
Space Dock can you do a video on the T-65XJ3 X-wing fighter as seen in "Then New Jedi Order" book series?
Please do the Bengal-Class Carrier from Star Citizen.
In my canon the New Jedi Order Secured 6 lucrehulks and a massive fleet to use to train the next Generation Of Jedi
Destroying one of these things better be one of the missions in the new battlefront 2 multiplayer.
It looks like torbjörns claw hand
How does the BC-304 lose to the Borg Cube?
"superfrighter"? Must be scary.
All I see in the Lucrehulk is that someone took a small bite out of a doughnut and put a doughnut hole in the center of it.
A long shot, how about a look at the USAF Project Orion "Space Battleship"?
Sure artwork is scarce, but how would real life stand up to Sci/Fi?
200 20MT Thermonuclear missiles arrayed in 3 banks of 30 silos
3 five inch guns
6 Casaba- Howitzers (a direct energy weapon based on the pulse drive, a multi-kiloton nuclear blast focused to a single point..ie a cheap phaser)
6 20mm CIWS turrets for point defense
The pusher plate used to turn nuclear blasts into propulsion was intended to double as a defensive shield
On paper, a 1960's real life design can match a Galaxy Class Starship in combat (having a decided volume of fire advantage, 30 20MT missiles per salvo vs 5 60MT photon torpedoes.)
Could be fun, breif over view of the Strategic Air Command's ambitious plans for the vessel (and the "Doomsday Orion" sibling) followed by a short comparison of how Cold War ingenuity would stack up against notable science fiction vessels
Its facinating, but Project Orion was an actual realworld concept and this series is for completely fictional vessels
Can you please do your next video on Dominion Warships from Star Trek!! 👍
The CIS's most iconic ship and she may not look pretty. But she was powerful.