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Yeah, strong logistics has always been the backbone of a success military, so of course militarized cargo vehicles happen regularly. Honestly, this excuses why a lot of Star Wars ships commonly come with armaments as stock; Space is wide and good friends are too few!
@@evankent6049 Where have you been schooled? You missed the class on SPOOKY gunships. www.guns.com/news/2015/08/07/the-spookiest-story-in-vietnam-the-ac-47-gunship-12-photos *stares at AC-47 in American*
I'd be the legendary Rebel pilot to hail an Imperial Star Destroyer and smugly tell the bridge crew that they're about to die from a "giant metal donut" with a hacked hologram countdown ! Tbh that'd be hilarious but horrifying for the Empire when it came out and started raping their shields and eating the hull like Jabba eats frogs 😂😂😂
@@Jacob-qz9fo USA: Are these chinese manufactured Products! China: No, 90% of the product was made in China and the rest was finished Vietnam, therfore it's Vietnamese. USA: Can't argue with that.
The Lucrehulk is probably my favorite Capital Ship in Star Wars. It's so adaptable to any use. It can be freighter, fighter carrier, battleship, mobile base. I could even see it being possibly some rich guy's personal traveling palace. Or even a small moving city. Safe to say, if I could own any Ship in Star Wars, it would be a Lucrehulk.
Now that you mention it... take it out of those greedy Neimoidians' hands and the Lucrehulk if OBSCENELY customizable! A traveling city or a traveling luxury resort, the possibilities are endless! Refit those hangar bays into something else, ANYTHING else that you desire!
Kinda reminds me of German tank development pre-ww2. With the Versailles Treaty not allowing the Germans to build or develop tanks, the Germans built, design and tested 'Tractors' that they could utilized to test suspension designs.
What is funny is that it also worked the other way. Both after the send of World War II and the collapse of the Soviet Union, many obsolete but functioning tanks were sold and used as "tractors" and bulldozers and other machinery for the civilian sector. My friend's grandfather had a fully functioning Sherman tank on his farm for decades.
I was actually thinking the London Naval Treaty limiting national naval development... and then an extraterritorial megacorp circumventing it by saying "I'm not a nation, so we're just gonna build defenses on our freighters, k?"
@The Xenomorphian Revan reads the details of the doctrines that followed. Revan: Da fuck? (Fun fact, in Legends, HK-47 took over a ship before his body died and managed to jump into the Clone Wars era.
Tbh my favorite was the Venator, it is highly flawed, but given that if it had someone of the elements of the ISD along with the Venator's fighter capacity, it would be a very good well rounded ship
Why did Force-users need matched/attuned Kyber crystals for their lightsabers? What was the benefit to a good match or the drawback of a bad one? #AskEck
Interesting question. Sith forged their own crystals so they do not found "their" crystal they made theirs. A Darth Bane's crystal is said have been passed down through out the Sith, so if it was his crystal, how should any other Sith be able to use it?
I forget between Legends and new canon which one has Sith using synthetic crystals and which has them corrupting natural ones, but in either case it begs the question of why they'd need to when they could just take and use any usable Kyber crystal?
I would imagine it has something to do with the user's ability to wield the blade. Like Yoda, with his own lightsaber, was one of the best swordsman of the Galaxy, but with someone else's, he might be merely proficient. Symbolically, a lightsaber is meant to be personal and unique to each wielder, and many of the traditions and forms of lightsaber combat can be interpreted as using the blade as an extension of the user, rather than a simple tool that has no "forcey" connection to the owner. For the Jedi, they go to Ilum to find their crystals, which call to them specifically, but to no one else. They also make their own weapons from materials they gather, and with their own personality and connection to the Force as a guide for the design. The crystals themselves are almost living beings in their own right. #AskEck Were the crystals on Ilum created with a predestined owner, or was their some kind of mutual attraction that would only be realized once the padawan discovered their crystal?
Same thing as anyone choosing a sword. It has to be right for you. Length, weight, balancing, fighting style, it has to feel right and comfortable. I once bought a sword that I thought was awesome, but i could not use it because it was mere 15mm too long. Thats less than a width of a finger, but when i drew the sword, thats how much was left in the scabbard when my arm was fully extended. Otherwise would have been perfect. So it just was not MY sword. I gave it to a friend who had slight longer arms and it was perfect. I could fight with it just great, but it was... uncomfortable on the draw. Some swords are too blade heavy, feel like axes. Some are too light, and feel like toys. It has to be right. So using the a Force-tuned crystal has to feel right to you. You can use it OK, but it feel wrong and you want to change it more you use it. Just get a good one right at start. With sith, I think they get a good sword but a bad crystal. Like shoes that are just bit too small that it makes them uncomfortable on purpose, makes them more angry, enhancing their dark side. They take rhe sword and feel more angry and aggressive, something desirable to them.
@@darthgandalf9485 Not very simple or good explanation. Which is a shame since KotOR are awesome games and to me, more "real" star wars than most movies, sometimes catching the feel of the world better than the original movies. Its the small things that really bring a world alive, not the big ones.
What is underappreciated is what a brilliant *logistical* design they were. They were already refined and optimised, with a whole spare parts infrastructure. No hastily built ship that had bugs to be ironed out. All they really had to do besides add guns and shields was install a safety so that the doors to the reactor couldn't be open the same time as the outer hanger doors were … … And the automation was crucial, if the GAR had implemented ship automation for basic task to the same extent (saving clones just for combat operations) they would have had a lot more forces available. Post clone wars they would have made a great _mobile base_ for rebels as well, especially as maintenance and spares would be available and crew requirements were ridiculously low. The CIS could have had a lot more of these if they had wanted to during the lead up time.
Say what you want about the game, but GR: Breakpoint basically did that with the drone factories on Aurora; from package delivery and supplemental police cams, to a nearly automated army.
I always thought that the Trade Federation doing business in the outer rim and having to fight off pirates or something would've been a much better motivation than the taxation of trade routes. They're sick of having to pay for their droids to do it and want the Republic to foot the bill, militarizing to get rid of the pirates or something but Naboo was saying "no we don't need to militarize, fighting off pirates is the cost of doing business in the outer rim." So the Trade Federation blockades the planet to prove that the Republic does need to get their act together in case a real threat comes along. And of course all that business they're doing in the outer rim is mostly weapons deals in preparation for the upcoming separatist movement. But then I'm not a huge lore buff, just a guy who watched the movies and spent a very little bit of time on wookiepedia.
James Luceno is great for this kinda connectivity its why i liked his Agents of Chaos books in the NJO series and Cloak of Deception which illustrates how the Neimoidians gained a majority hold in the Trade Federation.
Watching episode one the first time I thought it was a little lightly armed to be a main battleship, but looking back at it now a Carrier role fits better with the CIS tactics especially at the start of the war, so it makes sense it would be more focused on defending itself with fighters
Who would win? Incredible and formidable capital ship packed with armament, troops, and defenses. Some school shooter who tried spinning, thats a good trick.
#AskEck How would you lead a rebel faction against the empire. Also, how would you improve the rebel’s logistical situation? “The line between disorder and order lies in logistics…” - Sun Tzu
I would answer that with another quote from Sun Tzu: "All warfare is based upon deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near."
1, the Rebellion was, without better words, Skint broke, and couldn't afford to make or buy a Ship of such caliber, and also the malevolence wouldn't have matched up with rebel tactics. The rebels tactic rely on hit and run attacks that usually revolved around star fighter raids on star ships. Which is why all of the Rebel fighters had hyperdrives. I would honestly do what the Rebellion did, hit and run strikes, but also implanting sympathizers in profitable businesses to make some money for the war effort, growing the rebel fleet and cause, tbh I wouldn't have even made my cause known until I had a fleet able to rival most any imperial fleet with Mon cala cruisers and battleships, it would've worked much better to keep the Rebellion as secret as possible
Turning a freighter into a carrier is a time honored tradition of earth militaries. There is a very large overlap of requirements. It certainly helped that those ships were heavily shielded and armored. Even if their gun weaponry was rather weak (being only a refitted, giant freighter).
This and the Munificent were probably the best ships of the CW era. The Munificent wasn’t the most powerful but it was cheap and well applied to its intended purpose
BlackShogun 27 diversity with regards to ship capabilities. The Separatists had good diversity of ship types. The Republic ships were jacks of trades and masters of none
@@andyrihn1 At the very least, the venator was a very solid ship. It's probably one of the best jack of all trade ships in Star Wars. Regardless, it's still a far less effective approach than the specialized CIS navy.
@@metaouroboros690 The Venator is more of an Assault ship. If I had to name a similar design it would be the Pegasus class from Gundam. A ship that can dish out punishment but heavily depends on its starfighters. They are also pretty good for space marine deployment.
The Lucrehulk is my favorite capital ship in SW, idk exactly why but ive been in love with the TF ships and droids (and by extension the CIS) since i first saw the phantom menace as a child. I just LOVE the droids!! Lucre hulks are beasts!!
While I've never been a fan of the Lucrehulk or the C-9979 in particular, I have always loved the utilitarian approach the Trade Federation took towards military combat!
@@DonaldWWitt Dude, the Munificient was a fantastic frigate. Almost every square inch dedicated to Anti-Fighter/Corvette warfare. The perfect escort ship for a Top-Heavy cruiser/Battleship.
There's something so... Enticing about a massive army of things that you can throw at your enemy with reckless abandon to overrun your enemy without worrying about them dying. Plus the part where you can comb over the battlefield afterward and send the remains back where they came from to be rebuilt to fight all over again. Without palpy running interface, the CIS could have easily overtaken the whole republic if they wanted.
I love using fleets of Lucrehulks in the Republic at War mod for Empire at War. You really nailed why they are such a potent Force in the galaxy. It was their swarms of droid snubfighters that shifted Imperial doctrine away from such "cowardly" tactics, and towards heavily armed and armored battleships.
Hell, the first American carrier (the USS Langley) was originally the USS Jupiter, which was a fleet collier (i.e., a naval support vessel that carried nothing but coal, for refueling ships that used coal-burning engines).
Also big boon is the way vulture droids are stored. They can attach themselves to the hulls, and fly when needed. And it makes large surface area ships really great
I believe they had a number of them before the clone wars due to the fact of the republic still had a navy but shipyards such as Kuwat and Corellia could pump out dozen of ships per day
I’m surprised that the Russian Reformation didn’t have an escalation clause like the historical London Naval Treaty. If a major faction sees someone adding heavy armor and possibly offensive weapons onto a large stock of heavy ships, then I would assume that the Republic would have taken action to actually safeguard their own interests
according to what I know about those ships, they had pretty good reactors, enough for some great shields and much bigger weapons than shown, I feel these ships are underutilized
@@kevinshu4883 well, I agree, but during the clone wars, a bit more R&D would done them some good, I mean there is real potential in them, like SSD levels of potential, in my humble opinion
@@ponyperson7513 Considering the matchup between Star Destroyers and Ties vs. the Rebellion, I think a faction using the Lucrehulk's and Droid Fighters would have done better against the Rebellion. Or at least mixing that design in among the Star Destroyers.
@@shorewall that's more or less what I was saying, a bit (or a lot) of more firepower would be more than a match for an ISD, there is a lot of potential in that ship that was not used
Yeah, it kinda sucks that the Core Ship's design only carried over to the Death Stars, that kind of modularity would have saved the Empire billions of credits and much more easily taken care of unsavory elements than Star Destroyers.
Another interesting thing that the Darth Plagueis book brings to the fore is an assassination attempt using nuclear weapons, which confirms that nuclear bombs exist in the setting and are significantly much more powerful than other weapons (with other words, turbolasers are not in the same energy category as nuclear bombs or relativistic weapons). In addition to all the implications the existence of nuclear weapons has on space combat, it also makes clear that for all the vaunted power of the Sith Lords, not even Plagueis could have survived being in the immediate blast zone of a nuclear device. This further highlights the basic fallacy of the rule of two, that is a dynasty. A dynasty is a chain, and like royal dynasties you need but one weak link or even just an unfortunate accident to break that chain. That the rule of two didn't end suddenly and somewhat predictably at some point between Bane and Plagueis is really fortunate, and as Plagueis himself points out in the book, at several points the dynasty almost fell to random accidents befalling the master. Going directly against the predictions of Bane, the dynasty of Sith Lords descending from the rule of two actually lost power as Plagueis mentions that some of these accidents and weak links in the chain actually lost the knowledge of how to perform feats like draining the life of another to sustain oneself.
An interesting point of trivia is that the Lucrehulk is shaped exactly like the port of Carthage, which was a trade federation itself, (and a place to launch warships from) and it fought Rome which was a republic, but slowly, because of the war, started a very slow but eventual transformation to an Empire, which then split apart to an imperial remnant, which invaded he west, and west became, in time, centered again in Italy, but usually guided by the trade centers of Genua and and especially Venice, which is a very famous Republic. Of the genius of Lucrehulks, i suggest reading about Q-ships, disguised merchant raiders, which were basically light warships made to look like merchant ships. Hardly genius, but good, reliable plan nonetheless.
Q-ships were armed merchantmen that would bait U-Boats into surfacing, not seeing the hidden guns. Auxiliary Cruisers/Commerce Raiders were cargo ships (usually fruit carriers and refrigeration ships in Germany’s case) fitted with hidden guns and torpedoes that disguised themselves as Allied ships to sneak up on merchantmen. This was much more successful than the Q-ship; one ship, Kormoran, took out the Australian heavy cruiser HMAS Sydney and her entire crew, while Kormoran lost only a portion of her crew and had to be scuttled due to damage
Still one of my overall favorite ships! I recently binged a lot of vids covering various Transports, which in turn inspired me to make two diametrically opposed Imperial Quartermasters; one is a Loyalist that rises through the Imperial Navy, eventually attaining the rank of Admiral. He had GM Tarkin's approval & blessing to reactivate CIS assets to augment his cargo flotilla, and make a Lucrehulk his command ship. The other Quartermaster rose through the ranks of the Imperial Army, eventually having earned the rank of Commander. These two would have a brief friendship, before it turned into a friendly rivalry in early 4 BBY, and later into just rivalry in 2 BBY. Around the time that Alderaan was destroyed, the Commander secretly defected to the Rebel Alliance. During this time, Palpatine had a secret directive, in which the Logistics branches of the Imperial armed forces discretely redistributed mothballed GAR & CIS assets to secret bunkers; caches of ships, weapons, battle droids & supplies, for latter Imperial use. The Commander would exploit this directive, creating secret 'drop point' locations within his assigned sector, and deleting the records after making a copy of the critical info for the Rebel's dead drop. In this manner, war material intended for the Imperial Army instead fed the growing Rebellion. In 2 ABY, one drop's cache included coordinates to a depot that held CIS & GAR capital ships... Shortly after The Battle of Endor, the Commander would be instrumental the his sector's liberation by the New Republic. Soon after that, he was made a General in the New Republic. While the Admiral was not one of the many commanders ordered to execute Operation Cinder, he was however required to facilitate it. As he did so however, he was also gathering to himself loyalists, survivors and additional resources as he was able. When the majority of the systematically crippled Imperial Fleet gathered for a battle at Jakku, the Admiral instead took his armada to a remote sector, that had by that time established itself as an Imperial Remnant, one that could capitalize on its remoteness to escape both the infighting that would decimate the majority of the Imperial Remnant factions, and the notice of the New Republic. +[{❆}]+ From 4 to c.30 ABY, these Imperial Caches would be plundered by the New Republic & the Imperial Remnants, though the majority of them were claimed by the First Order.
When I first saw the Lucerhulk ship I IMMEDIATELY wanted one. Still kinda do even today, they just look so cool and having an army of Battle Droids B1 or otherwise doesn't hurt either xD
Chiming in to say that Lucrehulk is one of my favourite ship names. And was it the main powerplant that a certain young child hit, or did they get Midway’d and Anakin just put explosions smack dab in the middle of their fuel system? Which is a much more logical thing to have attached directly to your cargo hangers than the main reactor, and also more sensible for it to connect all around the ring as a) you have manuevering engines across the hull and b) you’ve just converted a cargo ship into a carrier, and fighters need spacefuel.
china has 1 or 2 and the U.S. is thinking about it. basically a cargo ship with a few hundred cruise missiles that can be shot and guided by real military ships/aircraft. called arsenal ships i think.
@@jamesharding3459 pretty sure china had or is building 1or 2 (maybe they were just testing feasibility) how is it unworkable? just need aircraft to guide em right? im not saying its the best thing to do just saying you can. i didnt think you could fire an antiship missile from a dow either but iran apparently did put some missiles on lil wooden ships. wars always changing, hard to say whats gonna be best lil later on. sacrificing a missile ship for a few half billion dollar aircraft might be worth it in the long run. they used to say the U.S. would go bankrupt if we lost a b2 bomber... lost 2 i think during training accidents.
Russia apparently has containerised missile launch systems. As in like a half dozen missiles, and the launch and guidance systems all built to fit inside a modified shipping container that superficially looks identical to any other. That's not quite the same thing but it DOES imply that any container ship can be a missile boat just by loading some specialised containers onboard. Not only is this a trivial modification (can't even really call it a modification - just cargo), it also isn't obvious that this has been done unless you examine the ship's cargo very carefully...
Ruusan Reformations sound remarkably similar to the London Naval Treaty with regards to impact to naval production, with a decentralizing-the-national-military twist. Did not know about this.
Tbf, the WNT (the one you were thinking of) was actually a smart idea. The nation's involved had to figure out how to utilize the maxim 'less is more' and allowed the navies to avoid too many cuts during the depression. Nah, the Ruusan Reformation needs something else to compare to
@@sirboomsalot4902 the armistice was actually enforced for some years. The german high command was just quite good at using its resources to plan for the next war
Joe Hayes Yeah, isn’t that kind of what the TF did? They built freighters that would later be used as capital ships, and built an army in secret. The He-111 and Ju-52 started out as passenger planes, their early tanks were made out to be construction vehicles (Neubafahrzeug, Germany’s first heavy tank, means “new construction vehicle” in English), and as far as I know most of the rearmament was done in secret.
@@sirboomsalot4902 however, the French, British and Russians didn't dematerlialize to the extent the Germans did. If the generals had gotten their way and the war started in 45 the Allies wouldn't have needed the US. By 1941, the French and British would've been ready to dominate the Germans because of prep work they had been doing. In the Ruusan Reformation case it was literally depending on militias and making the Republic toothless
Love reading these books, right now I am reading star wars after math trilogy so many to read. Keep up the good work. . May the force be with you always. .
i reminds me of the IJN Mogami class cruisers. it was a inter-war (between WW1 and WW2) cruiser of the Japanese navy that was the size of a heavy cruiser. but in order to comply with the Washington navy treaty limiting the number of heavy cruisers it was equip of 6" gun turrets with the intention (and fulfilling) swapping them out with 8" gun turrets. the 6" guns were then re-used as secondary guns on the yamato class battle ships.
I would give it to the SPARTANS, simply because they are still human and thus can think more creatively. I know the Mk3s were supposed to have the creativity of a clone trooper but seeing how the Drak Trooper program was never really finished, I have my doubts about droid tactical creativity. But, if you were talking about these Dark Troopers: starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_trooper_(stormtrooper) Elite stormtroopers with some dark side force training, then the Dark Troopers will win hands down.
Erwin Rommel to one sided only the the most powerful battle droids and force users can match a spartan 2. And frankly really just the force users as spartan 2s would probably out think any battle droid.
Lucrehulks are awesome capital ships, able to transport vast numbers of droid fighters... of course, if the wifi goes down for more than 120 consecutive seconds, all those fighters will turn the ship into so much powdered space debris
okay, I have trouble believing that a freighter can possibly have been built that large, in such numbers and that the Droid control Ship (which seemed waaay too purpose built as a battleship) had to be converted for military application.
Ahhh yes you finally did it! I love the lucrehulk so much, i feel like not enough ppl ever praise or talk bout how pretty decent the actual ship is looks wise and its general armament and complement of shit it brought into battle
The consistency in the "Story" is quite ingenious. How in the Universe does the Trade Federation have such a vast fighting force. The retro-fitted massive transports. Why? To fend off pirates. Makes complete and total sence to evlove in that manner.
Interesting video but it turned out to have very little discussion of the Lucrehulk itself in my opinion - I was expected to hear more about its specifications, capabilities, and performance.
Tbh the lucrehulk and the venerator are my favorite two carriers. The lucrehulk has absolutely absurd carrying capacity. It's gun coverage wasn't the best for capital ship fights and it's not the most cost efficient warship in the CIS fleet. For blockades and invasions though it is as efficient as any star wars design. In fact it just occurred to me that the direct counter to the lucrehulk design would be an ISD. Was the ISD conceived as a lucrehulk killer? The venerator is just an awesome mass produced hybrid carrier.
#ASKECK Helllooooooo Eck, I wanted to ask - have you done any videos on the galactic economy? Some explanation of star wars credits, banking ("The Banking Clan") , the clone wars, pre-clone wars era economy, etc.... would be really cool and welcome! Love your channel. Thanks!
Could we get a video just talking about what the russon reformation is in detail? I've heard about it a lot but have never gotten a video on what it fully is. Seems right up your alley.
Just to bring some more "science" into this type of ship from another SciFi series: Perry Rhodan uses sphere shaped space ships since its first published volume in 1961 because 1) the sphere is the geometrical object with the smallest surface but largest volume, 2) it is statically stable (for landings on planets) and 3) it has tactical advantages because you can rotate the ship to relieve weapons on one side. It all may be SciFi, but I find this interesting :)
It seems that starfighters would fall within the legal limits, so couldn't the trade federation just defend their ships from pirates with a large compliment of fighters without running afoul of the law?
I can also see why they did the shape they did. It allows for so many angles of fire sure that you're under equal pressure no matter which direction you approach from (similar to the octuptara tri-droids.) Great for a valuable cargo vessel.
Federation: “nothing can destroy our mighty lucrehulk” *autistic toddler with a bowl hair cut blows up the ship by accident* Federation: “you weren’t supposed to do that”
I think the thousand year gap between the fall of the Sith and Clone Wars is the least fleshed out time in Star Wars. Granted, it’s meant to be relatively boarding peacefully time in galactic history, but that just means no large scale wars. I enjoyed the Jedi Apprentice books as a kid. It’s nice to see the Jedi when there isn’t a large scale war or dealing with some other Sith threat.
If anything The lukrehulk would be my planetary blockade ship along side the munificent and victory with my battleships being the allegiance, Venator, and providence for attacking blockades
I came up with a fan fic Lukrehulk ship called the Omega-Class Lukrehulk Battlestation !!! M'boi is 9,000 meters wide with a cargo capacity long enough to sustain a small city for years !!! Except this ain't for living in to cruise about. I'm cruising and bruising enemies with my arsenal of turbolasers, capital turrets, long guns, heavy cruise missiles, several thousand starfighters, point-defense laser cannons, and gravity wells ! But let's not forget *"Thicc Shields"*
Gothic Genius Eck’s replied to one of the TheRed Hawk’s many posts and stated he was going to cover the Valiant Class Superheavy Cruiser/BattleCruiser.
TheRed Hawk it’s odd that he promised to do the vid on the Valiant, but has since numerous other videos on non-polled or requested topics. However, the channel is technically for what ever Eck’s wants to create.
Here is one for ya! The clone wars battle droids were often used as comic relief in the films and cartoon, in actuality how good was their programming? Considering they fight, can pilot space ships, take on a variety of tasks, compare with real world tech? Interesting idea for a vid i think
I’m glad I’m not the only one who saw the connection. The Armistice could also be an inspiration, especially since tanks were initially constructed in secret and many aircraft that the Luftwaffe would latter use, like the He-111 and Ju-52, started their lives as passenger planes
The Wash and London treaties were squat compared to the RR. The Naval treaties limited what and how many could be built. The RR would be: "Nope, nothing bigger than a Destroyer. Ever. In fact, we're gonna send some guys over and if a ship weighs over 1K tons, it's gone. No museum ships either. You're scrapping every single one of 'em."
French Guy My money is on the Star Destroyer. Despite it’s many design flaws, the I-Class Star Destroyer seems far more powerful than a Ha’Tak. Turbolasers>staff cannons, TIE Fighters>Death Gliders, Stormtroopers>Jaffa (even stormtrooper aim with an E-11 is better than a staff weapon or zat’nik’tel).
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I made a funny comment on the other video you bastard.
Lmao I found that hilarious
I don't forgive you
The Templin Institute what was it??
It's all good 👍
Trade Federation: "Our capital ship is impenetrable."
Ani: "I'll try spinning that's a good trick."
TF: "He can't do that. Shoot him or something!"
gunner droid: Roger roger, target is down
@@gabrielherman3004 nute gunray: great shot droid, that was one in a million!
@@Jacobhull04 Never tell me the odds!
@@AdamantLightLP well, what do nemodians say to droid gunners when they hit a target?
Jake Skywalker you get a pay raise
The lucrehulk is a genius capital ship until a kid in a naboo star fighter shows up
It was the spinning that did them in. A neat trick indeed
@@andyrihn1 good* trick.
Blair Johnson now this is podracing !!
To be fair that kid was wearing head-to-toe plot armour.
I think their one big design flaw was that starfighter-sized hole that lead to the reactor chamber for no discernible reason.
Historically, cargo freighter converted to military use has been very common, from Renaissance galleons to camouflaged privateers in both world wars.
Cesar Adrian Gonzalez Ayala And Aircraft like the AC-130/AC-47 which were just WW2 Cargo/personnel planes refitted with tremendous guns
Yeah, strong logistics has always been the backbone of a success military, so of course militarized cargo vehicles happen regularly.
Honestly, this excuses why a lot of Star Wars ships commonly come with armaments as stock; Space is wide and good friends are too few!
Also called the Q ships.
@@arbirawr AC-130 definitely did not exist during WWII, what are you smoking (and it's just C-47, no 'A', or DC-3 for the civilian version).
@@evankent6049 Where have you been schooled? You missed the class on SPOOKY gunships. www.guns.com/news/2015/08/07/the-spookiest-story-in-vietnam-the-ac-47-gunship-12-photos *stares at AC-47 in American*
When I first saw this ship, I thought its a Space Station, rather than a moving Capital Ship... Mainly due to the donut shape...
Yeah. When I first saw this in theaters, my thought was it was another death star. Just without a super weapon.
As a kid used to think that the Lucrehulk cores being launched on Geonosis in ep. 2 were mini Death Stars
@@kyleghilani6386 me to
Same
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Especially when that same movie showed Dooku and the CIS had developed the initial blueprints for the Death Star
Well yeah, it's the donut ship, no other capital ship can come close to the donut ship and its glory
I'd be the legendary Rebel pilot to hail an Imperial Star Destroyer and smugly tell the bridge crew that they're about to die from a "giant metal donut" with a hacked hologram countdown ! Tbh that'd be hilarious but horrifying for the Empire when it came out and started raping their shields and eating the hull like Jabba eats frogs 😂😂😂
@@blackshogun272 lol
its when someone ate a piece of a donut and spit it out in the middle
Donut ship on doughnut day!
Damn donut could carry 500 x-wings. Only poor management that screwed it up
Republic: Hey, you can't make big scary dangerous ships!
Trade Federation: We need to defend our freighters.
Republic: Yeah sure no problem.
Basically this
I think the TF bought them rather than built them. Knowing them, it was probably cheaper.
Insert Trump tariff joke about China here.
@@Jacob-qz9fo
USA: Are these chinese manufactured Products!
China: No, 90% of the product was made in China and the rest was finished Vietnam, therfore it's Vietnamese.
USA: Can't argue with that.
Same today: which « sovereign » country nowadays has the balls to say « no » to whatever a multinational company asks for ?
General Skywalker said he destroyed one of these when he was a kid
thatrandomguy that’s because he spun and they weren’t built to stop spinning
@@ThatMetroMania Yeah, spinning is a bad thing.
I spun too when i was a kid, and broke a vase.
Its just a whirling, twirling maneuver of DOOM!
SPEEN
501st like! FOR THE REPUBLIC!
On the ground, the high ground beats all, but in space, that’s where spinning trumps all.
The Lucrehulk is probably my favorite Capital Ship in Star Wars. It's so adaptable to any use. It can be freighter, fighter carrier, battleship, mobile base. I could even see it being possibly some rich guy's personal traveling palace. Or even a small moving city. Safe to say, if I could own any Ship in Star Wars, it would be a Lucrehulk.
Now that you mention it... take it out of those greedy Neimoidians' hands and the Lucrehulk if OBSCENELY customizable!
A traveling city or a traveling luxury resort, the possibilities are endless! Refit those hangar bays into something else, ANYTHING else that you desire!
@@MrDibara And around the main hangar bays are still tens of thousands of rooms of varying size. There is plenty of space to go around as it is.
Kinda reminds me of German tank development pre-ww2. With the Versailles Treaty not allowing the Germans to build or develop tanks, the Germans built, design and tested 'Tractors' that they could utilized to test suspension designs.
What is funny is that it also worked the other way. Both after the send of World War II and the collapse of the Soviet Union, many obsolete but functioning tanks were sold and used as "tractors" and bulldozers and other machinery for the civilian sector.
My friend's grandfather had a fully functioning Sherman tank on his farm for decades.
I was actually thinking the London Naval Treaty limiting national naval development... and then an extraterritorial megacorp circumventing it by saying "I'm not a nation, so we're just gonna build defenses on our freighters, k?"
@@Shadesight That makes more sense in this case.
r/madlads
@The Xenomorphian the one that seems to be their leader seems a little... Fürious
I'm so sorry for the pun, I had to
*Reads details of the Ruusan Reformation*
Grand Moff Tarkin: "Looks like I've got a lot of work to do."
DarkNova50 Later....
*Reads details of the Tarkin Doctrine*
Grand Admiral Thrawn: Looks like I've got a lot to work to do
@@kingcrimson1467 much later:
*Reads detail of the Republic Demilitarizion*
Admiral of the New Republic: Wait, didn't Tarkin handle this?
@The Xenomorphian
Revan reads the details of the doctrines that followed.
Revan: Da fuck?
(Fun fact, in Legends, HK-47 took over a ship before his body died and managed to jump into the Clone Wars era.
Honestly this was my favorite ship from TPM and TCW TV show.
Daniel Wynnbrice same I loved the design
Same
Tbh my favorite was the Venator, it is highly flawed, but given that if it had someone of the elements of the ISD along with the Venator's fighter capacity, it would be a very good well rounded ship
@@b4ushoutxyz_66 two years late but the secutor class is a big star destroyer that has a big fighter complement
Why did Force-users need matched/attuned Kyber crystals for their lightsabers? What was the benefit to a good match or the drawback of a bad one? #AskEck
Interesting question. Sith forged their own crystals so they do not found "their" crystal they made theirs. A Darth Bane's crystal is said have been passed down through out the Sith, so if it was his crystal, how should any other Sith be able to use it?
I forget between Legends and new canon which one has Sith using synthetic crystals and which has them corrupting natural ones, but in either case it begs the question of why they'd need to when they could just take and use any usable Kyber crystal?
I would imagine it has something to do with the user's ability to wield the blade. Like Yoda, with his own lightsaber, was one of the best swordsman of the Galaxy, but with someone else's, he might be merely proficient.
Symbolically, a lightsaber is meant to be personal and unique to each wielder, and many of the traditions and forms of lightsaber combat can be interpreted as using the blade as an extension of the user, rather than a simple tool that has no "forcey" connection to the owner.
For the Jedi, they go to Ilum to find their crystals, which call to them specifically, but to no one else. They also make their own weapons from materials they gather, and with their own personality and connection to the Force as a guide for the design. The crystals themselves are almost living beings in their own right.
#AskEck Were the crystals on Ilum created with a predestined owner, or was their some kind of mutual attraction that would only be realized once the padawan discovered their crystal?
Same thing as anyone choosing a sword. It has to be right for you. Length, weight, balancing, fighting style, it has to feel right and comfortable.
I once bought a sword that I thought was awesome, but i could not use it because it was mere 15mm too long. Thats less than a width of a finger, but when i drew the sword, thats how much was left in the scabbard when my arm was fully extended. Otherwise would have been perfect. So it just was not MY sword. I gave it to a friend who had slight longer arms and it was perfect.
I could fight with it just great, but it was... uncomfortable on the draw.
Some swords are too blade heavy, feel like axes. Some are too light, and feel like toys. It has to be right. So using the a Force-tuned crystal has to feel right to you. You can use it OK, but it feel wrong and you want to change it more you use it. Just get a good one right at start.
With sith, I think they get a good sword but a bad crystal. Like shoes that are just bit too small that it makes them uncomfortable on purpose, makes them more angry, enhancing their dark side. They take rhe sword and feel more angry and aggressive, something desirable to them.
@@darthgandalf9485 Not very simple or good explanation. Which is a shame since KotOR are awesome games and to me, more "real" star wars than most movies, sometimes catching the feel of the world better than the original movies.
Its the small things that really bring a world alive, not the big ones.
When I was little I used to call them “Hugger Ships” cuz they always looked like they wanted to give me a hug
H U G G E R S H I P S
Best Name Ever
:3
What is underappreciated is what a brilliant *logistical* design they were. They were already refined and optimised, with a whole spare parts infrastructure. No hastily built ship that had bugs to be ironed out.
All they really had to do besides add guns and shields was install a safety so that the doors to the reactor couldn't be open the same time as the outer hanger doors were … …
And the automation was crucial, if the GAR had implemented ship automation for basic task to the same extent (saving clones just for combat operations) they would have had a lot more forces available.
Post clone wars they would have made a great _mobile base_ for rebels as well, especially as maintenance and spares would be available and crew requirements were ridiculously low.
The CIS could have had a lot more of these if they had wanted to during the lead up time.
If I remember well Anakin hit a secondary reactor used to charge fighters
This makes me think that Amazon warehouses could be easily turned into military factories to overthrow the government
The Syndicated Capitalist States of Amazon wants to know your location
Yes it can but I’d think you’d quickly notice it’s parts being stock piled. People would likely speak up.
Say what you want about the game, but GR: Breakpoint basically did that with the drone factories on Aurora; from package delivery and supplemental police cams, to a nearly automated army.
Amazon is 100 percent patriotic an huge military contractor
@@derrickmccalep3840 military contracting is a good front for refitting your factories to produce weapons ;)
I always thought that the Trade Federation doing business in the outer rim and having to fight off pirates or something would've been a much better motivation than the taxation of trade routes. They're sick of having to pay for their droids to do it and want the Republic to foot the bill, militarizing to get rid of the pirates or something but Naboo was saying "no we don't need to militarize, fighting off pirates is the cost of doing business in the outer rim." So the Trade Federation blockades the planet to prove that the Republic does need to get their act together in case a real threat comes along. And of course all that business they're doing in the outer rim is mostly weapons deals in preparation for the upcoming separatist movement. But then I'm not a huge lore buff, just a guy who watched the movies and spent a very little bit of time on wookiepedia.
James Luceno is great for this kinda connectivity its why i liked his Agents of Chaos books in the NJO series and Cloak of Deception which illustrates how the Neimoidians gained a majority hold in the Trade Federation.
Who would win?
One Trade Federation Capital ship
OR
One pod racing boi
Saemin Kang one spinny boi
One stupid kid
the pod racing boi and is arme from Millions of midi-chlorians,
instinctively
guided by the force =D
The plot armor is strong with this one
The spinning is strong with this one
Watching episode one the first time I thought it was a little lightly armed to be a main battleship, but looking back at it now a Carrier role fits better with the CIS tactics especially at the start of the war, so it makes sense it would be more focused on defending itself with fighters
Who would win?
Incredible and formidable capital ship packed with armament, troops, and defenses.
Some school shooter who tried spinning, thats a good trick.
#AskEck How would you lead a rebel faction against the empire. Also, how would you improve the rebel’s logistical situation?
“The line between disorder and order lies in logistics…”
- Sun Tzu
I would answer that with another quote from Sun Tzu:
"All warfare is based upon deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near."
Buy the rebellion a few lukerhulks
One word-
Malevolence
1, the Rebellion was, without better words, Skint broke, and couldn't afford to make or buy a Ship of such caliber, and also the malevolence wouldn't have matched up with rebel tactics. The rebels tactic rely on hit and run attacks that usually revolved around star fighter raids on star ships. Which is why all of the Rebel fighters had hyperdrives.
I would honestly do what the Rebellion did, hit and run strikes, but also implanting sympathizers in profitable businesses to make some money for the war effort, growing the rebel fleet and cause, tbh I wouldn't have even made my cause known until I had a fleet able to rival most any imperial fleet with Mon cala cruisers and battleships, it would've worked much better to keep the Rebellion as secret as possible
Turning a freighter into a carrier is a time honored tradition of earth militaries. There is a very large overlap of requirements.
It certainly helped that those ships were heavily shielded and armored. Even if their gun weaponry was rather weak (being only a refitted, giant freighter).
Hey, the MC-80s were cruise ships with guns bolted on. The Mon Cals build 'em tough.
@@thebighurt2495 IIRC, Mon Cals were very pacifistic. So building the to survive pirate attacks rather then repell them makes sense.
@@christopherg2347 Well, they, like the Alderaanians, were sick and tired of fighting after the Clone Wars.
This and the Munificent were probably the best ships of the CW era. The Munificent wasn’t the most powerful but it was cheap and well applied to its intended purpose
The Republic focused on too much diversity and it came back to bite them in the ass when 3 Munificents could basically rape a Venator 😂
BlackShogun 27 diversity with regards to ship capabilities. The Separatists had good diversity of ship types. The Republic ships were jacks of trades and masters of none
@@andyrihn1 At the very least, the venator was a very solid ship. It's probably one of the best jack of all trade ships in Star Wars. Regardless, it's still a far less effective approach than the specialized CIS navy.
@@metaouroboros690 The Venator is more of an Assault ship. If I had to name a similar design it would be the Pegasus class from Gundam. A ship that can dish out punishment but heavily depends on its starfighters. They are also pretty good for space marine deployment.
virgilio moncada it doesn’t matter there not real
1. T-70 X-Wing VS E-Wing
2. Nebula Star Destroyer VS Pellaon class Star Destroyer
Grant him his wish Eck. Come on
2. I'd go with the Pellaon. As much as I love the Neb, it'd be about 40 years old by the time it picked a fight with a Pellaon.
I've always loved the Lucrehulk-class vessel since I saw The Phantom Menace
The Lucrehulk is my favorite capital ship in SW, idk exactly why but ive been in love with the TF ships and droids (and by extension the CIS) since i first saw the phantom menace as a child. I just LOVE the droids!!
Lucre hulks are beasts!!
While I've never been a fan of the Lucrehulk or the C-9979 in particular, I have always loved the utilitarian approach the Trade Federation took towards military combat!
@@DonaldWWitt Dude, the Munificient was a fantastic frigate. Almost every square inch dedicated to Anti-Fighter/Corvette warfare. The perfect escort ship for a Top-Heavy cruiser/Battleship.
Seeing the droid army deploy will always be on of my favorite scenes.
There's something so... Enticing about a massive army of things that you can throw at your enemy with reckless abandon to overrun your enemy without worrying about them dying. Plus the part where you can comb over the battlefield afterward and send the remains back where they came from to be rebuilt to fight all over again. Without palpy running interface, the CIS could have easily overtaken the whole republic if they wanted.
Lucrahulk is one of my favourite star ship designs think it's amazingly unique
I love using fleets of Lucrehulks in the Republic at War mod for Empire at War.
You really nailed why they are such a potent Force in the galaxy. It was their swarms of droid snubfighters that shifted Imperial doctrine away from such "cowardly" tactics, and towards heavily armed and armored battleships.
Video suggestion:
Perfect fleet video for other universes
Watching one of these decend on Bracca was awe inspiring.
Makes sense. A good portion of British Freight ships were converted into Aircraft Carriers on the onset of the Second World War in the Pacific.
Nothing holds shit like a freighter.
Hell, the first American carrier (the USS Langley) was originally the USS Jupiter, which was a fleet collier (i.e., a naval support vessel that carried nothing but coal, for refueling ships that used coal-burning engines).
Generation Tech covered this before (ie the Space Donut is a sensible design); you guys should do a collaboration together.
No there pretty good a collab would be awesome
Xaiver: This ship is merely a half eaten donut. Lets just finish it and get on our way _way._
Honestly love the way this ship looks
Vs matchup
Arquitens Imperial light cruiser vs CR92A corvette
Fairly sure the Arquitens has like 180 meters on the CR92A
@@GonnaDieNever Yeah, those two ships aren't even in the same class. Cruiser v corvette is going to be a pretty lopsided match up.
Cr92a has like 3x as much firepower... RIP Arquitens
Also big boon is the way vulture droids are stored. They can attach themselves to the hulls, and fly when needed. And it makes large surface area ships really great
#AskEck
How did the Republic acquire such a large number of Venators so quickly?
I believe they had a number of them before the clone wars due to the fact of the republic still had a navy but shipyards such as Kuwat and Corellia could pump out dozen of ships per day
Communism
3D printers
Replicators.
Cobblestone generators
I’m surprised that the Russian Reformation didn’t have an escalation clause like the historical London Naval Treaty. If a major faction sees someone adding heavy armor and possibly offensive weapons onto a large stock of heavy ships, then I would assume that the Republic would have taken action to actually safeguard their own interests
according to what I know about those ships, they had pretty good reactors, enough for some great shields and much bigger weapons than shown, I feel these ships are underutilized
Pony Person
I bet they have years long construction times and cost a lot.
@@kevinshu4883 well, I agree, but during the clone wars, a bit more R&D would done them some good, I mean there is real potential in them, like SSD levels of potential, in my humble opinion
@@ponyperson7513 Considering the matchup between Star Destroyers and Ties vs. the Rebellion, I think a faction using the Lucrehulk's and Droid Fighters would have done better against the Rebellion. Or at least mixing that design in among the Star Destroyers.
@@shorewall that's more or less what I was saying, a bit (or a lot) of more firepower would be more than a match for an ISD, there is a lot of potential in that ship that was not used
Yeah, it kinda sucks that the Core Ship's design only carried over to the Death Stars, that kind of modularity would have saved the Empire billions of credits and much more easily taken care of unsavory elements than Star Destroyers.
Best part of all your videos is the outtro, not cause the video is over but because that dog is beyond adorable
Another interesting thing that the Darth Plagueis book brings to the fore is an assassination attempt using nuclear weapons, which confirms that nuclear bombs exist in the setting and are significantly much more powerful than other weapons (with other words, turbolasers are not in the same energy category as nuclear bombs or relativistic weapons).
In addition to all the implications the existence of nuclear weapons has on space combat, it also makes clear that for all the vaunted power of the Sith Lords, not even Plagueis could have survived being in the immediate blast zone of a nuclear device.
This further highlights the basic fallacy of the rule of two, that is a dynasty. A dynasty is a chain, and like royal dynasties you need but one weak link or even just an unfortunate accident to break that chain. That the rule of two didn't end suddenly and somewhat predictably at some point between Bane and Plagueis is really fortunate, and as Plagueis himself points out in the book, at several points the dynasty almost fell to random accidents befalling the master.
Going directly against the predictions of Bane, the dynasty of Sith Lords descending from the rule of two actually lost power as Plagueis mentions that some of these accidents and weak links in the chain actually lost the knowledge of how to perform feats like draining the life of another to sustain oneself.
An interesting point of trivia is that the Lucrehulk is shaped exactly like the port of Carthage, which was a trade federation itself, (and a place to launch warships from) and it fought Rome which was a republic, but slowly, because of the war, started a very slow but eventual transformation to an Empire, which then split apart to an imperial remnant, which invaded he west, and west became, in time, centered again in Italy, but usually guided by the trade centers of Genua and and especially Venice, which is a very famous Republic.
Of the genius of Lucrehulks, i suggest reading about Q-ships, disguised merchant raiders, which were basically light warships made to look like merchant ships. Hardly genius, but good, reliable plan nonetheless.
Q-ships were armed merchantmen that would bait U-Boats into surfacing, not seeing the hidden guns. Auxiliary Cruisers/Commerce Raiders were cargo ships (usually fruit carriers and refrigeration ships in Germany’s case) fitted with hidden guns and torpedoes that disguised themselves as Allied ships to sneak up on merchantmen. This was much more successful than the Q-ship; one ship, Kormoran, took out the Australian heavy cruiser HMAS Sydney and her entire crew, while Kormoran lost only a portion of her crew and had to be scuttled due to damage
@@sirboomsalot4902 Same difference, different name.
I never thought the separatists would make something that’s quality over quantity instead of the other way around
Still one of my overall favorite ships! I recently binged a lot of vids covering various Transports, which in turn inspired me to make two diametrically opposed Imperial Quartermasters; one is a Loyalist that rises through the Imperial Navy, eventually attaining the rank of Admiral. He had GM Tarkin's approval & blessing to reactivate CIS assets to augment his cargo flotilla, and make a Lucrehulk his command ship.
The other Quartermaster rose through the ranks of the Imperial Army, eventually having earned the rank of Commander. These two would have a brief friendship, before it turned into a friendly rivalry in early 4 BBY, and later into just rivalry in 2 BBY.
Around the time that Alderaan was destroyed, the Commander secretly defected to the Rebel Alliance. During this time, Palpatine had a secret directive, in which the Logistics branches of the Imperial armed forces discretely redistributed mothballed GAR & CIS assets to secret bunkers; caches of ships, weapons, battle droids & supplies, for latter Imperial use.
The Commander would exploit this directive, creating secret 'drop point' locations within his assigned sector, and deleting the records after making a copy of the critical info for the Rebel's dead drop. In this manner, war material intended for the Imperial Army instead fed the growing Rebellion. In 2 ABY, one drop's cache included coordinates to a depot that held CIS & GAR capital ships...
Shortly after The Battle of Endor, the Commander would be instrumental the his sector's liberation by the New Republic. Soon after that, he was made a General in the New Republic.
While the Admiral was not one of the many commanders ordered to execute Operation Cinder, he was however required to facilitate it. As he did so however, he was also gathering to himself loyalists, survivors and additional resources as he was able.
When the majority of the systematically crippled Imperial Fleet gathered for a battle at Jakku, the Admiral instead took his armada to a remote sector, that had by that time established itself as an Imperial Remnant, one that could capitalize on its remoteness to escape both the infighting that would decimate the majority of the Imperial Remnant factions, and the notice of the New Republic.
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From 4 to c.30 ABY, these Imperial Caches would be plundered by the New Republic & the Imperial Remnants, though the majority of them were claimed by the First Order.
When I first saw the Lucerhulk ship I IMMEDIATELY wanted one. Still kinda do even today, they just look so cool and having an army of Battle Droids B1 or otherwise doesn't hurt either xD
Chiming in to say that Lucrehulk is one of my favourite ship names.
And was it the main powerplant that a certain young child hit, or did they get Midway’d and Anakin just put explosions smack dab in the middle of their fuel system?
Which is a much more logical thing to have attached directly to your cargo hangers than the main reactor, and also more sensible for it to connect all around the ring as a) you have manuevering engines across the hull and b) you’ve just converted a cargo ship into a carrier, and fighters need spacefuel.
china has 1 or 2 and the U.S. is thinking about it.
basically a cargo ship with a few hundred cruise missiles that can be shot and guided by real military ships/aircraft.
called arsenal ships i think.
GreensOplenty China doesn’t have any, and the concept is inherently not really workable.
@@jamesharding3459 pretty sure china had or is building 1or 2 (maybe they were just testing feasibility)
how is it unworkable? just need aircraft to guide em right?
im not saying its the best thing to do just saying you can.
i didnt think you could fire an antiship missile from a dow either but iran apparently did put some missiles on lil wooden ships.
wars always changing, hard to say whats gonna be best lil later on. sacrificing a missile ship for a few half billion dollar aircraft might be worth it in the long run.
they used to say the U.S. would go bankrupt if we lost a b2 bomber... lost 2 i think during training accidents.
@@greensoplenty6809 Lost one B2 when was bombing Hospitals and power plants in Yugoslavia.
Russia apparently has containerised missile launch systems.
As in like a half dozen missiles, and the launch and guidance systems all built to fit inside a modified shipping container that superficially looks identical to any other.
That's not quite the same thing but it DOES imply that any container ship can be a missile boat just by loading some specialised containers onboard.
Not only is this a trivial modification (can't even really call it a modification - just cargo), it also isn't obvious that this has been done unless you examine the ship's cargo very carefully...
Imperative Games ok boomer
Thanks for all your videos Eckhartladder!
Always makes me glad you cover all the legacy knowledge with precision. Keep up all the excellent work!
I still maintain that for the Lucrehulk would've been best utilized as a mobile base of operations.
For the most part, it was. They did use it as a capital ship but they acted as carriers more often than dreadnoughts.
Unless you were someone like trench who better commanded battleships, if you were a CIS admiral you'd probably be in a lucrehulk.
Yus I love this era of Star Wars, pls do more future videos on this. Great stuff!
Ruusan Reformations sound remarkably similar to the London Naval Treaty with regards to impact to naval production, with a decentralizing-the-national-military twist. Did not know about this.
Well, the LNT (or Washington treaty) were Nerfs and limits. The Ruusan Reformations was the Devs just deleting entire classes and skill trees.
So glad you mentioned Plagueis. That book pretty much made ep.1 make sense. The movie left way too much out for others to understand.
Ruusan Reformation, the SW version of the London Naval Treaty and everyone know how that end...
Tbf, the WNT (the one you were thinking of) was actually a smart idea. The nation's involved had to figure out how to utilize the maxim 'less is more' and allowed the navies to avoid too many cuts during the depression. Nah, the Ruusan Reformation needs something else to compare to
Joe Hayes The Ruusian Reformation and The Armistice?
@@sirboomsalot4902 the armistice was actually enforced for some years. The german high command was just quite good at using its resources to plan for the next war
Joe Hayes Yeah, isn’t that kind of what the TF did? They built freighters that would later be used as capital ships, and built an army in secret. The He-111 and Ju-52 started out as passenger planes, their early tanks were made out to be construction vehicles (Neubafahrzeug, Germany’s first heavy tank, means “new construction vehicle” in English), and as far as I know most of the rearmament was done in secret.
@@sirboomsalot4902 however, the French, British and Russians didn't dematerlialize to the extent the Germans did. If the generals had gotten their way and the war started in 45 the Allies wouldn't have needed the US. By 1941, the French and British would've been ready to dominate the Germans because of prep work they had been doing. In the Ruusan Reformation case it was literally depending on militias and making the Republic toothless
Love reading these books, right now I am reading star wars after math trilogy so many to read. Keep up the good work. . May the force be with you always. .
Good ep. Love technical law treaty shit. Somehow makes it all more real.
i reminds me of the IJN Mogami class cruisers. it was a inter-war (between WW1 and WW2) cruiser of the Japanese navy that was the size of a heavy cruiser. but in order to comply with the Washington navy treaty limiting the number of heavy cruisers it was equip of 6" gun turrets with the intention (and fulfilling) swapping them out with 8" gun turrets. the 6" guns were then re-used as secondary guns on the yamato class battle ships.
Replicators vs a Unified Star Wars universe (526th try now, *_I._** WILL NEEEEVER EEEVER GIVE UP!!!)*
Replicators vs Anything = God Help Us
Eckhart: lucrehulk is much good!
Nine year old former child slave: *im about to make dis man's career explode*
Vs matchup
Squad battle between Spartan 4s(Halo) vs Dark Trooper Mk3 (Star Wars)
TheWingland that would be cool
I would give it to the SPARTANS, simply because they are still human and thus can think more creatively. I know the Mk3s were supposed to have the creativity of a clone trooper but seeing how the Drak Trooper program was never really finished, I have my doubts about droid tactical creativity.
But, if you were talking about these Dark Troopers: starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_trooper_(stormtrooper)
Elite stormtroopers with some dark side force training, then the Dark Troopers will win hands down.
What about spartan 2s?
The most well known of course is the master chief.
Erwin Rommel to one sided only the the most powerful battle droids and force users can match a spartan 2. And frankly really just the force users as spartan 2s would probably out think any battle droid.
True.
How about Orian project subjects?
Lucrehulks are awesome capital ships, able to transport vast numbers of droid fighters... of course, if the wifi goes down for more than 120 consecutive seconds, all those fighters will turn the ship into so much powdered space debris
okay, I have trouble believing that a freighter can possibly have been built that large, in such numbers and that the Droid control Ship (which seemed waaay too purpose built as a battleship) had to be converted for military application.
I’ve been looking for just such a podcast, didn’t expect to find one here, I’ll be checking it out after this video
Who will win??
A Deadly space donut with lazer canon and a army of battledroid
Or
1 spinning 🅱oi
Ahhh yes you finally did it! I love the lucrehulk so much, i feel like not enough ppl ever praise or talk bout how pretty decent the actual ship is looks wise and its general armament and complement of shit it brought into battle
Actually I like the design as well, so logical and practically designed, nowhere fancy as any ship exist but practical than them all
The consistency in the "Story" is quite ingenious. How in the Universe does the Trade Federation have such a vast fighting force. The retro-fitted massive transports. Why? To fend off pirates. Makes complete and total sence to evlove in that manner.
Interesting video but it turned out to have very little discussion of the Lucrehulk itself in my opinion - I was expected to hear more about its specifications, capabilities, and performance.
Tbh the lucrehulk and the venerator are my favorite two carriers.
The lucrehulk has absolutely absurd carrying capacity. It's gun coverage wasn't the best for capital ship fights and it's not the most cost efficient warship in the CIS fleet. For blockades and invasions though it is as efficient as any star wars design.
In fact it just occurred to me that the direct counter to the lucrehulk design would be an ISD. Was the ISD conceived as a lucrehulk killer?
The venerator is just an awesome mass produced hybrid carrier.
2:13 Washington naval treaty 2 turbo laser boogaloo
Dee, you bitch!
the moment you said this was on spotify i instantly looked it up and now i know what im gonna be listening too while i play WoW
#ASKECK Helllooooooo Eck, I wanted to ask - have you done any videos on the galactic economy? Some explanation of star wars credits, banking ("The Banking Clan") , the clone wars, pre-clone wars era economy, etc.... would be really cool and welcome!
Love your channel. Thanks!
Could we get a video just talking about what the russon reformation is in detail? I've heard about it a lot but have never gotten a video on what it fully is. Seems right up your alley.
I never thought they were ships, I thought they were space stations.
Mobile space stations, but yeah. Most definitely.
Just to bring some more "science" into this type of ship from another SciFi series: Perry Rhodan uses sphere shaped space ships since its first published volume in 1961 because 1) the sphere is the geometrical object with the smallest surface but largest volume, 2) it is statically stable (for landings on planets) and 3) it has tactical advantages because you can rotate the ship to relieve weapons on one side. It all may be SciFi, but I find this interesting :)
It seems that starfighters would fall within the legal limits, so couldn't the trade federation just defend their ships from pirates with a large compliment of fighters without running afoul of the law?
Great vid Eckhart! Very interesting info.
#AskEck
Which SCP would fit in perfectly in the star wars Universe?
SCP 999. 😂
SCP 420-J 😂
SCP 3003... In other words Taris 2.0.
For your 5 ways to devastate the yuuhzang vong, I suggest that you use defoliation cannons.
and droid armys... that could work
Ahh, yes. The Washington Naval Treaty... IN SPACE!
Star Wars takes flying saucers to another level, and at the same same time makes them look so down to earth.
I was a bit confused about what happened the last time you uploaded this
The Lucrehulk is my personal favorite starship of all time. I just love the shape of it, so different from anything else.
Smoking GNU admit it, you just like donuts.
I can also see why they did the shape they did. It allows for so many angles of fire sure that you're under equal pressure no matter which direction you approach from (similar to the octuptara tri-droids.) Great for a valuable cargo vessel.
Federation: “nothing can destroy our mighty lucrehulk”
*autistic toddler with a bowl hair cut blows up the ship by accident*
Federation: “you weren’t supposed to do that”
The title alone earned you a like immediately! These are my favorite ships!
I'm not sure, man.
Sounds like something a T-series tactical commander would say
Plagueis is a phenomenal book, and could easily still work in current canon. Almost all of James Luceno's books from the EU are my personal favorites.
Nice Video again Eck,
#AskEck What happened to Starkiller, Rahm Kota, Juno Eclipse, and Proxy after The Force Unleashed Two?
I think the thousand year gap between the fall of the Sith and Clone Wars is the least fleshed out time in Star Wars. Granted, it’s meant to be relatively boarding peacefully time in galactic history, but that just means no large scale wars. I enjoyed the Jedi Apprentice books as a kid. It’s nice to see the Jedi when there isn’t a large scale war or dealing with some other Sith threat.
If anything
The lukrehulk would be my planetary blockade ship along side the munificent and victory with my battleships being the allegiance, Venator, and providence for attacking blockades
I came up with a fan fic Lukrehulk ship called the Omega-Class Lukrehulk Battlestation !!! M'boi is 9,000 meters wide with a cargo capacity long enough to sustain a small city for years !!! Except this ain't for living in to cruise about. I'm cruising and bruising enemies with my arsenal of turbolasers, capital turrets, long guns, heavy cruise missiles, several thousand starfighters, point-defense laser cannons, and gravity wells ! But let's not forget *"Thicc Shields"*
@@blackshogun272 why not add a interdictor field to make sure when used in a blockade purpose, it can trap enemies in place
I love the dog at the end in coordination with the music lol
You know what else is a Genius Capital Ship? The Valiant Class Superheavy Cruiser/BattleCruiser
Still asking for this xD I'm impressed with you dedication
Gothic Genius Eck’s replied to one of the TheRed Hawk’s many posts and stated he was going to cover the Valiant Class Superheavy Cruiser/BattleCruiser.
@@Reyma777 doesn't mean I can't keep spreading the holy word
@@Reyma777 well i didn't see that, thanks for telling me
TheRed Hawk it’s odd that he promised to do the vid on the Valiant, but has since numerous other videos on non-polled or requested topics. However, the channel is technically for what ever Eck’s wants to create.
Here is one for ya! The clone wars battle droids were often used as comic relief in the films and cartoon, in actuality how good was their programming? Considering they fight, can pilot space ships, take on a variety of tasks, compare with real world tech? Interesting idea for a vid i think
Can you imagine if Revan had Lucrehulks in his Star Forge fleet?
If that happened, then the Lucrehulk would have been classified as a major iconic capital ship that will go down in history.
9:31 best outro I've ever seen
The Washington Naval Treaty did about the same pre-WWII
I’m glad I’m not the only one who saw the connection. The Armistice could also be an inspiration, especially since tanks were initially constructed in secret and many aircraft that the Luftwaffe would latter use, like the He-111 and Ju-52, started their lives as passenger planes
The Wash and London treaties were squat compared to the RR. The Naval treaties limited what and how many could be built. The RR would be: "Nope, nothing bigger than a Destroyer. Ever. In fact, we're gonna send some guys over and if a ship weighs over 1K tons, it's gone. No museum ships either. You're scrapping every single one of 'em."
Had these details been demonstrated in TPM, theyd've made the movie a lot easier to understand.
Imperial Star Destroyer(Star Wars) vs Ha'tak(StarGate)
French Guy My money is on the Star Destroyer. Despite it’s many design flaws, the I-Class Star Destroyer seems far more powerful than a Ha’Tak. Turbolasers>staff cannons, TIE Fighters>Death Gliders, Stormtroopers>Jaffa (even stormtrooper aim with an E-11 is better than a staff weapon or zat’nik’tel).
The Lucrehulk is like my fav ship and I have no idea why but I love it
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Legends Tie Defender vs. X-83 Twintail #askeck
I cant wait for the podcast to get to the last legends book series. It was my favorite series and I remember it the most