Can You Smooth Out An Extra-Fine Nib? - Q&A Slices
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2017
- How smooth is it possible for extra fine nibs to get? I love a super smooth writing experience, and my Goulet stub nibs and my Jinhao mediums all deliver. But for work (grading essays, etc.) a medium is just too big of a nib. My Pilot Metropolitan fine is fairly smooth, my Goulet extra fine a bit toothier. Is it possible to get these tiny nibs glassy smooth with mylar/micromesh? Or will an extra fine nib always be a bit toothy? I'm relatively new to fountain pens and don't have a ton of time for adjusting and working on nibs right now. Is it worth trying to smooth them out some or should I just figure that this is life with an extra fine nib? Thanks for your help and for all you do.
yes you can definitely smooth out an extra fine nib
there is less surface area to it, so it will always have a little more feedback than broader nibs
finer nibs require a lighter touch, in the smoothing process and in writing them
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The advice to reduce hand pressure really improved my fountain pen experience. I didn’t realize how much pressure I had become accustomed to with ball points.
Thanks for the demo! I was able to smooth my EF Vanishing Point so now it is perfect!
Interesting point about writing with pressure; I'm used to Japanese gel-pens and tech-pens I found out I needed to let the pen "glide" over the paper than just making the tip touch the paper when using a fountain pen.
I like to use a loupe when doing nib smoothing to see what I am doing. I have found that really helps!
Love the sweater! Another great video on the "finer points" of nibs.
'Finer Points of Nibs', so good! Might use that. :) - Colin
@Gil Yamaoka ok but is this a virus?
I honestly don't like super smooth writing, which is why I got a EF lamy nib, next to that I usually write fairly small as well. Quite informative though!
Also want to point out, there's a risk of turning an EF nib into a slightly broader tip by over-smoothening it.
True, I got a scratchy jinhao nib and when I tried to smooth it it almost got broad point XD, now I use it upside down because only that way it writes how its supposed to
Aldo Hiram Tovar Dominguez think you could grind it back down? Using the micro mesh?
@@NitrousFox I think there's a little chance, but I'd rather leave it there as it could also get worse
This video is an example of how to do if don’t want to answer the question. There are defiantly smooth and scratchee nibs but you don’t want to ruin your 😅business..
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I know that some people get their super-fine nibs upturned, which adds smoothness by simulating the pen being at a lower angle. Pilot's Waverly nib does the same thing. Hardly any manufacturers these days will do that from the factory, although several nibmeisters do.
That would make sense. I was wondering how my Snorkel (extra fine it seems like, perhaps even a bit finer, it's pretty tiny) managed to be so smooth but they do have those upturned nibs similar to Waverly style ones.
All my pens are EF nibs because I draw with fountain pens. And amongst them, Pilot Elite gives the thinnest line and 0% scratchyness, it writes like a butter even with dry-er inks. Very underrated nib. For my other pens, using wetter inks like Iroshizuku helps.
How does it compare to the Pilot Kakuno EF?
Use a really high grit piece of sandpaper.. I saw someone do a nib downsize and he did a 12000 grit! Really smooth, he said. And 12000 grit is so smooth an abrasive that it won't really have too much a risk of actually widening the tip size.
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Soak the micromesh (12,000) in warm water for about fifteen (15) minutes, and then apply some organic coconut liquid oil onto the mesh. Place the mesh on a piece of cloth on a flat surface area or a portion of soft cardboard and draw the treble clef music sign (brace) without any pressure; a fountain pan's weight is sufficient for this procedure. If the pen is too light, put a (depending on the diameter of the fountain pen) 3/8" (0.020 Oz, 0.566 gr) or 1/2" (0.17 Oz, 4.7 gr) stainless steel or brass nuts 1/2" above the nib on the pen's holding area. Also, use tape to hold the nut and keep the person doing the process from touching the nuts, where stainless steel and brass have California Proposition 65 Warnings.
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You might want to consider writing differently. When calligraphers use fine point pens (such as in Spencerian script), they only use downward strokes (from the top of the letter down) and minimize strokes that move up or horizontally because the nib will catch on the paper. That means writing slower, so reducing pressure and using better paper is a good first step before attempting to tune a pen on your own.
Hello! Recently I ordered from your company a TWSBI Eco pen. I had seen it from a friend of mine and I wanted one like it. I have used pens with coverters before, so I was excited to get a pen capable of holding more ink. However, when I received the pen - which is so beautiful - I got intimidated by the equipment It came with, namely the wrench and the lube. I watched some videos to understand what am I supposed to do with them, but up to this point I have no idea if I must do something with the pen before I ink it for the first time. So, should I?
Nah, you don't have to do anything before you ink it up :) those are just for maintenance. I don't have the eco but on the vac 700 the wrench is used on the back of the pen so I can remove the piston rod and do some cleaning. The lube is for greasing the piston rod so that it operates smoothly. You would probably only need to grease that maybe once a year or even longer, just whenever you start to notice the piston is getting some resistance.
Yeah, Joseph is right. The Eco should be good to go right out of the box, feel free to ink it up. Sometimes the piston mechanism has some resistance, so you can disassemble it and apply the silicone grease to the piston rod to help it move smoothly. We have a quick tip video that shows you how disassemble it using the wrench: ruclips.net/video/Ns4uyyOmKw8/видео.html - Colin
Thank you! :-) That puts me at ease.
When I write without pressure with my extra-fine Safari, ink doesn't come out properly. I feel like I have to push really hard to get anything that resembles a solid line. It's a fairly new pen, and it's had this problem with all inks I've tried except for the cartridge it came with. Any suggestions?
The Lamy EF is a pretty dry writer, I've had a similar experience. I'd make sure the tines are properly aligned (and not pinching in) and that the ink channel is clear of any debris (usually paper bits). That happened to me, and has improved the ink flow. - Colin
Thanks. The tines might be too tight. Is there a way to fix that?
Brian has a pretty helpful tutorial using a loupe that could work: ruclips.net/video/jQ29a1ct5XA/видео.htmlm27s - Colin
The Goulet Pen Company I’m having the opposite problem - I just got a Lamy Al-Star w an EF nib, ditched the cartridge, and filled it with Noodlers Red-Black. I love the feel of this pen in my hand but it writes super wet and the line is way thicker than I’d like. Are there any permanent/water-resistant inks that would reduce this problem/produce a thinner line from this nib?
So you do this micro mesh or Mylar tuning with ink in the pen? Am I understanding correctly?
Yes, it helps lubricate the micro mesh, helping in turn in the fine tuning.
Hey Brian, what should I do to pens I will not use for a while?Should I suck up water in them so that they dont get clogged?
Definitely give them a full cleaning and flush out any remaining ink in it. You don't want that settling down for too long. Beyond that, they should be fine to hang out until you're ready to use them again. - Colin
Thanks. That was helpful.
Any pen nib can be smoothened if they are rubbed against a glass. I’ll be making a video soon on this
That's true
Don't most of these modern pens use the stainless steel as the tipping material? they don't coat it with anything as far as I know
Most modern fountain pen nibs are tipped with an ultra-hard alloy of some sort. Some contain iridium, or another equally durable metal. Stainless steel stub/italic nibs are usually untipped, however. Hope that helps! - Drew
@@Gouletpens thanks that answer is very helpful! I wonder how thick the coating is, I'm always paranoid about polishing it
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