13:30 That's an MPI MP54-AC which is the most powerful diesel passenger locomotive in North America, with 5400 hp. You can tell because it has two sets of vents on the roof for the two prime movers.
Great footage. Seeing the almost 80 year old cars on the Canadian passing you made me think that those train sets have seen not that much change over the last almost century,
@@michlo3393 I don't think anyone is touching the NY/NJ area regional rail services, those guys are juggernauts. But I think Metra is debatable? I think within a few years, GO Expansion will put GO light-years ahead of Metra.
@@bigbandgapenergy Maybe what I know is dated, but GO also needs to vastly improve its frequency. It's really only just a rush-hour service. Which to be fair, is what commuter rail is but that said, Metra has better frequency overall. Especially on its electric lines. People forget about its electric lines.
@@michlo3393 ehh that's debatable. I don't think a metra electric line is the only reason metra is better than GO. Metra is still considered commuter rail. I really think Metra's only advantages are its coverage (Chicagoland is pretty huge compared to the GTA). The frequencies are on par with some GO lines already (we are still in the process of electrifying and yet GO operates pretty decent service). GO Transit's lakeshore lines operate pretty frequent, usually every 15-20 mins in peak direction, peak hours, and every 30 mins in reverse peak direction and hours. Most other lines (like stouffville line) operates 30 mins during peak hours and then hourly during other hours. For the Kitchener Line, there's 5-30 min headways throughout the day, and all of these lines operate with diesel locomotives! Then there the GO buses that fill in the gaps the GO trains don't cover, which many operate pretty good service.
@@bigbandgapenergy No offense or anything, but for years the only impressive thing about GO to me was the fact that their trains are all 5 miles long and that it would probably be easier for passengers to just walk through the train and get to their stops that way vs relying on those puny POS F59's to get them there. I don't think Metra is objectively better or anything, I just think it's a larger system with more coverage and that matters since no commuter rail is perfect.
Dear: I would like to know which station of the GO network in Toronto, I can see many freight trains at regular speed, thank you very much. Greetings from Argentina.
Please disregard this comment, it is incorrect. Info in replies. oops That Canadian won't be going to Vancouver. It'll have arrived earlier and is heading to TMC to get serviced and reversed. Canadians depart east to turn north. Same for the Siemens equipment. They're "officially introduced" to Southwestern Ontario, but are not yet in regular service there.
The Canadian to Vancouver does not depart east. It departs west as shown in the video because there is no way to turn such a long train around at the Toronto Maintenance Centre. The train heads west out of Union, north up the Barrie line, backs onto the CN York sub and then north up the CN Bala sub (Richmond Hill line).
@@OntarioTrafficMan Oh. Well that both makes more sense and doesn't. That's an odd operation that adds a bunch of points of scheduling failure with CN, but I suppose without any sort of changes to the existing setup this is the easiest way,
I disagree, the canadian is a historic train with classic stainless steel coaches, its a standout look that I dont feel should be replaced or modernized, thats not really the point… keep the coaches and let those chargers run with em!
I beg your pardon? GO is on a completely different level than other commuter services on this continent, sure it may not go very far north beyond the Barrie line, but the fact that it's getting two day all day service to Kitchener-Waterloo, 30 minute service between Toronto and Oshawa, and Express service on the Western lines, is frankly a blessing. And it's all only going to get better with the new electrified trains and expanded services.
The Lakeshore West line goes 130 km The Milton line goes 50 km The Kitchener line goes 100 km The UP Express goes 22 km The Barrie line goes 100 km The Richmond Hill line goes 45 km The Stouffville line goes 50 km The Lakeshore East line goes 50 km And there are bus routes going far beyond those, as well as filling many connections in between.
13:30 That's an MPI MP54-AC which is the most powerful diesel passenger locomotive in North America, with 5400 hp.
You can tell because it has two sets of vents on the roof for the two prime movers.
That more horsepower than the Siemens Charger. How come MPI stopped making new trains. Seems like they could have competed with Siemens.
That explains why only one locomotive could effortlessly pull 12 cars.
@@gerardlang9690 Well Toronto isn't exactly mountain railroading.
@@michlo3393 fair enough
@@Kishanth.J i don't think thar much horse power is needed for the routes they serve.
@34:30 by no means am I a railfan, I love aviation but that VIA livery is by far my favorite! Great spotting :)
Excellent video. Greetings from Poland. 👍
Great footage. Seeing the almost 80 year old cars on the Canadian passing you made me think that those train sets have seen not that much change over the last almost century,
Amazing views ❤
First time I traveled in double decker train . India has few double decker trains which runs in metro city like channai and delhi
Great catches there man, you got a lot of great action!
this is a great video michael does love trains
Wonderful compilation video and enjoyed watching once again. Have a wonderful upcoming weekend. Steve
Sweet video Michael!
Great video - that's a lot of lineside time - thanks for bringing it to u :)
Awesome
Excelente video
Top 3 Regional Rail system in North America, change my mind
🤔 LIRR, MNRR, NJT....GO? wait, LIRR, MNRR, NJT, Metra _then_ GO?
Top 3 in Canada maybe...
@@michlo3393 I don't think anyone is touching the NY/NJ area regional rail services, those guys are juggernauts. But I think Metra is debatable? I think within a few years, GO Expansion will put GO light-years ahead of Metra.
@@bigbandgapenergy Maybe what I know is dated, but GO also needs to vastly improve its frequency. It's really only just a rush-hour service. Which to be fair, is what commuter rail is but that said, Metra has better frequency overall. Especially on its electric lines. People forget about its electric lines.
@@michlo3393 ehh that's debatable. I don't think a metra electric line is the only reason metra is better than GO. Metra is still considered commuter rail. I really think Metra's only advantages are its coverage (Chicagoland is pretty huge compared to the GTA). The frequencies are on par with some GO lines already (we are still in the process of electrifying and yet GO operates pretty decent service).
GO Transit's lakeshore lines operate pretty frequent, usually every 15-20 mins in peak direction, peak hours, and every 30 mins in reverse peak direction and hours. Most other lines (like stouffville line) operates 30 mins during peak hours and then hourly during other hours.
For the Kitchener Line, there's 5-30 min headways throughout the day, and all of these lines operate with diesel locomotives!
Then there the GO buses that fill in the gaps the GO trains don't cover, which many operate pretty good service.
@@bigbandgapenergy No offense or anything, but for years the only impressive thing about GO to me was the fact that their trains are all 5 miles long and that it would probably be easier for passengers to just walk through the train and get to their stops that way vs relying on those puny POS F59's to get them there.
I don't think Metra is objectively better or anything, I just think it's a larger system with more coverage and that matters since no commuter rail is perfect.
27:02 I wonder what there gonna do with the Canadian
You mean like what new train set will replace it? Or something else?
10:57-When _is_ Amtrak going to replace this old train with the Siemens Charger loco and the new passenger cars?
No idea, probably after the get their Airo sets.
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why are those tracks so bumpy? are they not maintained properly?
Dear: I would like to know which station of the GO network in Toronto, I can see many freight trains at regular speed, thank you very much. Greetings from Argentina.
05:35 where's the location
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Please disregard this comment, it is incorrect. Info in replies.
oops
That Canadian won't be going to Vancouver. It'll have arrived earlier and is heading to TMC to get serviced and reversed. Canadians depart east to turn north.
Same for the Siemens equipment. They're "officially introduced" to Southwestern Ontario, but are not yet in regular service there.
The Canadian to Vancouver does not depart east. It departs west as shown in the video because there is no way to turn such a long train around at the Toronto Maintenance Centre. The train heads west out of Union, north up the Barrie line, backs onto the CN York sub and then north up the CN Bala sub (Richmond Hill line).
@@OntarioTrafficMan Oh. Well that both makes more sense and doesn't. That's an odd operation that adds a bunch of points of scheduling failure with CN, but I suppose without any sort of changes to the existing setup this is the easiest way,
21:21-This type of train needs to replace the Canadian, complete with a new 'dome'-type car.
I disagree, the canadian is a historic train with classic stainless steel coaches, its a standout look that I dont feel should be replaced or modernized, thats not really the point… keep the coaches and let those chargers run with em!
The problem is that that train isn't suited for such long services, its an intercity train, not a sleeper.
Why don't they electrify it?
Money.
@@jasperli Where does all the money Trudeau collected with Carbon tax go?
@@onetwothreeabc not exclusively to southern Ontario.
They will (eventually)
@@onetwothreeabc apparently towards guns and concerts...
Its funny how it it's called "GO", yet it *goes nowhere*
Toronto's rail transit is surprisingly underdeveloped for a city its size.
I beg your pardon? GO is on a completely different level than other commuter services on this continent, sure it may not go very far north beyond the Barrie line, but the fact that it's getting two day all day service to Kitchener-Waterloo, 30 minute service between Toronto and Oshawa, and Express service on the Western lines, is frankly a blessing. And it's all only going to get better with the new electrified trains and expanded services.
The Lakeshore West line goes 130 km
The Milton line goes 50 km
The Kitchener line goes 100 km
The UP Express goes 22 km
The Barrie line goes 100 km
The Richmond Hill line goes 45 km
The Stouffville line goes 50 km
The Lakeshore East line goes 50 km
And there are bus routes going far beyond those, as well as filling many connections in between.
How so?
Awesome video!!
A great reminder of the epic traffic on that corridor!
@@OntarioTrafficManyou tell him!!! 😊
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