Hey Everyone! I know this video is long and kind of shocking. I was shocking reading these records. The depositions and other reports are equally horrible. This video was done as a voice over because it had so many documents to show. For those of you wanting to follow me on instagram, please follow me here: instagram.com/withoutacrystalball2/ I have NO IDEA if I can recover my main account. Unfortunately, I have gotten nowhere because hackers have made it impossible to report the situation. I would love to be able to just build up my second account in the event I cannot recover the main page. I hope you all have had a great day! Katie
I had my Instagram account taken by a hacker. Have you put in a secondary notification or something like this? I can't remember it exactly with what I did to protect my 2nd account. I never got my first account back. The person changed my password and the account in general. It was so mad about this. Good luck!
@@jeannetteashlin1725 they circumvented getting access by actually reporting me dead. I can log in - but then it says my account is memorialized & I can’t open the page. Then I’m directed to fill out a form that I can’t fill out because they’ve spammed me to the point that I’m locked out
Question: if you post on your 2nd account, are you at least able to tag in your main account? I’ve seen people do a dual post that is technically posted from two accounts. Though not sure if that would work for you until they fix it. I’m sorry people have done this
Do you know who did this to your instagram? Is it that dance group that made the Instagram account about you? I wouldn't doubt it but again I'm not sure. Because they seem like they will go to any lengths just like the duggars to protect their own
Yep...I had to. It is something that I will never get over. It has damaged me more I thing, than the SA itself. It's something you can't get back from some day, Jessa, will have much to say.
I want him to get life. He is a horrible predator, and he needs to be locked up for good! Jim Bob and Michelle cultivated the environment that this happened in, and they're still protecting Josh. Disgusting! 😡
If this happened in any other house in America , the parents would be facing neglect charges for the girls and all the younger children would have been taken by cps. I don't understand how this family has gotten away with this.
I can’t imagine being fed a script to read on national tv to minimize the abuse that actually happened. That in itself is abusive. It gives me a new appreciation of the world these girls had to live in. My compassion is with the girls.
A “quick feel” is still a sexual ASSAULT. The minimizing is disgraceful. Jessa is still in denial because she doesn’t have the support of a courageous and protective husband that the other girls have. Ben is a wimp. If she ever comes around I think it will really shake her to the core. I feel awful for them all.
DEFINATELY! !Unlike Jessa, Jill and Jinger have strong husbands who refuse to be bullied by JB!! Ben is not a man, he follows whatever JB says!! It’s a shame, they both will follow JB no matter what!! I hope Joy Anna’s husband will stand up to JB, for his wife and childrens benefit!!
Did you see the video of Ben on homsexuality? He essentially afmitted he is gay. Jessa is really not syrrounded by the right people (as in her parents don't care and her husband is with her as he doesn't want to sin).
To say the least. To take it further, they emotionally damaged the girls by using such mild language when describing Josh's actions as "mild", "wrong choices", etc.
This is just another example of the lengths rim job will go to in order to defend josh and make him look like an angel. Hopefully more kids see the light and get away from these narcissists
This just makes me sick. The lies, the manipulation, everything JB & Michelle got away with, TLC's part in this, etc. I can't wait for Josh's sentencing.
And TLC has been in many other scandals scarily similar to this! (The quad squad gardeners for example) shit ish that TLC puts on their screens! Even kate plus 8 (hello she is questionable too!) the whole network needs to come down. Stop putting children on television and youtube families are just as bad. Its all horrible shut down the network and i no more platforms for children under 18 PLEASE 🙄 TLC needs to be sued by all the kids on their network for everything they enabled to do the sick things that have been done!
I never really watched the Duggars but I did watch some other TLC shows, early on, & I wondered if the various "casts" (that should tell us these are Not reality) could rise above the fame & $$. Clearly very few, only individuals within shows, have survived. I refuse to watch TLC now.
It's so disgusting the way they defend Josh. They really are despicable human beings. Josh clearly hadn't changed, and in fact got worse. Real and genuine? They are absolutely not!!
I am glad that there are at least some family members who aren't defending him. Jill and Derek really used to get on my nerves, but since they have gotten away from the cult, Jill has opened up and come into what I believe is her true self. I'm glad she and Jinger were able to get away. I wish Jessa would wise up, even though I don't really like her.
@@Nan-Elle what I find really sickening is that Anna kept having kids with him even after all of this stuff came out. Some people might defend her because she grew up in the cult too, but I don't. I think that's just giving her a cop out excuse that she can use.
@@abbywilson7222 what bothered me the most was how Jessa just stared at her in disgust. If my sister was crying like that. I would try to comfort her in some way. Jessa is so team Jim Slob!
She probably was reliving it all in her head. Her brother hurt her and now her parents were hurting her by not defending her and making her lie about all this yet again. She probably felt alone and betrayed. Jessa seemed not to 100% be there for her as well. You can see the divide.
PR Director: (Say this)"There is nothing fake about our family..." It's ironic that they had literally memorized that word for word rather than speaking in their own words. 🙄 Wow. The way JB and Michelle use words like "foolish", "mistakes", "choices", and "mild" REALLY downplay the severity of Josh's actions. That also completely ignores how Josh most likely ended up having the urges that he does - he was probably "SA" himself. It's not a simple choice; it's an urge that doesn't go away without intense therapy, which is still no guarantee. Their description of the "changed Josh" sure didn't age well, now did it?! How absolutely disturbing that the girls were told to say they "do not harbour bitterness" toward Josh, especially considering they did not receive proper therapy and should have spoken for themselves!!! That's extremely emotionally manipulative and damaging.
Bitterness is such an IBLP term the way it was used. And the whole, being told to say I’m allowed to say this because I personally went through this when we don’t really know if Jessa has truly gotten over what happened to her.
Is it any wonder Jill is in therapy? There is NOTHING worse than being expected to lie to protect your families name except for actually forcing your victims that they are not actually a victim. I think Jill has too much self respect and class to go all out eventually and bash them and lay all of their sins out because she wants to protect her other siblings but I’d give anything to see her be able to be the one to lead the rest of her younger siblings to the truth and help change the future of them.
Jim Bob should have taught his sons self-control and holiness as a christian virtue instead of his stupid "eyes right "technique. My daughter,who is a christian, was told by a male youth leader, that her dress was too short at knee level and that it was suggestive and tempting to men..,She was annoyed and replied," It is not a matter of me dressing to protect you . I suggest that you go and see a counsellor to ask for help in dealing with your immoral thoughts, which as a christian ,you should be controlling . I suggest that Jim Bob himself probably has problems He is behaving like the Taliban. If men cannot control their behaviour , it is they who should be locked up after 6PM, and have to wear electronic tags The punishment for rape should be permanent physical or chemical castration, and pornography should be banned. My father was chased by a lady from his dance class . He changed his route to work and went to a different dancing class. He was not a christian at the time, but was a person with a strict moral code.Jim Bob should be protecting his daughters and grand-daughters-- not making excuses for weak ness and a lack of self-control in himself and his sons.
Yes, I tend to think Jill doesn’t want to makes things worse with the family she is still close with. I would love to see Johannah - Josie follow Jill, Jackson also.
It does break my heart that JB and Michelle threw their daughters under the bus and praised the guilty one , Josh. That is abuse in my opinion, not to mention the other forms of abuse that happened in their home. Hopefully more and more kids will hold their parents accountable!
Sadly their religion they cherish the boys more than the girls. I'm guessing JB and Michelle probably blamed the girls for what Josh did to them. How sad but hopefully Josh's protection comes to an end next week and is finally held accountable for his actions!
This is absolutely disgusting. There's damage control, and then there's just this sickening display. In Touch didn't re-victmize the girls...their own parents did
@@beccaallen4107 i agree it was always about money for JB all the families who put their kids on social media/television even ADMIT to not letting them watch it all because they dont agree with it. Its Hypocrisy through and through.
To me this shows how fake the family is, and that the reality show itself was heavily scripted. It makes me doubt everything they say and have said, and their humbleness and devotion seems to me like a sham.
Jim Bob probably paid a pretty penny for the letters from the neighbors and from Lacount Reber for sure... And, it would not be too far fetched to discover that Jim Bob proofread those letters to make sure that they said what he wanted them to say about Josh to Justice Brooks. Five more days till Josh finds out his prison sentence... Too bad that his sentence cannot be more than 20 years... Thank you Katie for all of your hard work here on your channel.
In Britain ,Joshua Duggar would be on the sexual offenders list for life.He would have to wear an electronic tag for blife and would not be allowed to go within 1 mile of the homes of his brothers, sisters and cousins ,who have under age children, It is time that Jim Bob and the men in his family learned the art of self-control ,as part of the holy way of life that they should be living as christians.
I totally believe this happened and is still going on. I felt all the pre-sentence letters followed a "script". All written in same format. All avoiding any ownership of what he occured.
For god's sake, what is with this family??? We all have been waiting for May 25th for a long time. I respect the Judge in this case, and know that he will do the right thing, and ignore the disgusting pleadings of these horrible parents. Keep up the good work Katie.
The suspicion the girls interview was scripted has always been around but to have it confirmed that it was scripted in order to protect a TV show is absolutely sickening. Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar putting money above the wellbeing of the girls is absolutely abuse, as far as I am concerned both Jim Bob and Michelle can join Josh in prison
I have to say, Katie, I thought that there was nothing you could report in the Duggars that would surprise me! But, you did!! I am beyond sick and disgusted that at the greed of JB and Michelle! The girls were made to be sacrificial lambs for the sake of money. Truly revolting!! There is coming a day when JB, Michelle, and Josh will be judged for everything. My heart and prayers goes out to the girls.
How embarrassing and frustrating for the girls to have to come forward about being preyed upon by their gross older brother on television. They were victimized again by Josh and failed again by JB and M.
Yep. That’s the ONLY way to healing for those involved. It’s the only way JB can have restored relationships with his kids, the only way Anna will begin to heal, the only way her children will see a better glimpse of a future where truth is a very serious virtue. Without at least Anna standing for truth, the kids may not be able to learn the depth of truth as close to the core as possible. People mess up. Just own it.
Everyone knows how awful JimBoob and how he sold out his kids for money and not paying them and we all know how terrible he treated his daughters plus I believe he's the reason Josh is a per&^rt and very sick .person
The fact that they went into the reality show with this in their family background shows how unimportant the parents considered it, and how they gaslit their daughters. As if it really wasn't a big deal because they 'dealt with it' and that somehow makes it all 'ok'.
I watched and instantly felt Jill was FORCED to do that. It made me so sick then and still does!! So gross 😡😡 I'm so glad Jill has distanced herself and her kids!!
You could tell by Jills face she didnt like, one little bit, the whitewashing of Josh she was forced to do. I noticed precious, good-girl Jessa did most of the talking
Indeed. And so easy to get entangled in. We are all capable of it. I sure hope they all wake up soon before the chasm of brokenness gets wider and wider and children are so deceived that they can’t know real truth from acting. Sad.
Heartbroken and shocked!!! Get Real!!! Who do jb and his missus think they are fooling? They knew all along what josh was doing and that he's a real sicko. Those girls have come a long way!!! Thoughts and prayers for the girls!!!
It’s disgusting to have to hear about this. Those girls were sA’d by Josh and then again by their parents. Chad said in part of the email that JB and Michelle “trained” their children in the right way!?! They are human beings not dogs! These parents never cease to amaze me!!
I remember watching this interview and I was thinking that this was all written by Jim Bob, know I the truth. Thank you for letting us all know this info. Keep up the Good work!
I always felt Jill’s face was telling a different story than her mouth in that interview. She held back most of the time, as well. Always clear Jessa was a true believer or lies as easily as her brother and parents. This is a disgusting situation. I have always wondered about the youngest girl I can never remember her name. I don’t know if things have changed but she was a wild child that nobody seemed to want to contain. I see that photo of Josh holding her and wonder if there wasn’t significant trauma other than just being a preemie. Also the very quiet one… Jordyn? Or all of the girls except Jana. And why did their other brothers not kick his butt sideways. I’m Italian American. My family is a normal family, not the garbage you see on tv. My youngest aunt’s husband swept her out of the state… from PA to CO because one brother found out he knocked her around. He picked up his entire life and family and moved to the same town. When they got him sober, he was a great guy the rest of his life. But if one of the older brothers- there were 6 brothers and 3 sisters, I can’t even begin to imagine what would have happened to them.
These people treat women as second class. It's no different than the Taliban. It's horrific that these people sacrificed 4 daughters to save what they see as a more valuable son.
The whole Duggars reality show thing needs to RIP. I know many old fans who no longer watch ANY of it - this would be being supportive of that evil IBLP. A lot of Christians not watching anything Duggar for same reason we won’t watch the “family” with 4 wives reality show. Jinger, Jill and their two spouses I support because they have been the most honest about their toxic upbringing. Jessa and hubby hanging on with clickbait stuff to try and make a living off you tube. Bad move.
@@jenmontzingo yes indeed. The whole premise is dishonest. They are acting a script, making up little dramas to keep viewers and notice the dramatic stuff never turns out to be much in the end. Somebody pointed out to me once watch the Roloffs & Duggars and you hear the same lines said over and over. It is scripted being presented as if its not. Yep the reality show thing IS over
I would like to know about the current status of the relationship between Jinger and Jessa. Jinger has changed so much and distanced herself while Jessa seems to be one of children still very tied to Jim Bob and the family. I’m curious how this has effected their once very close relationship.
There is no way Michelle doesn't know how toxic her husband is. His toxic thinking and control has destroyed and brought embarrassing shame to their family. Since she just sits by silently, she is as every bit to blame for the shit show that is their family.
constructing a narative long after the fact....the truth doesn't come into at all. messaging, protecting the brand, controlling the conversation, creating a narative........"always be selling" all the while Josh's proclivity for sexual deviance was accelerating.....
Jessa blessa well we have dealt with it its been 5 years, you see it in Jill's face that for her she hasn't healed. My niece is now almost 30 this happened to her when she was 12, so her saying that 5 years is enough is laughable but what can I expect out of JimBob jr.
These people are disgusting. ABSOLUTELY disgusting to brush this off, allow their dumpster with legs of a son to not take ownership of his actions and say it’s ok because they talk to someone called god. Please.
It's infuriating that these people use the word, 'only', in describing the violation of a child's body. No wonder Josh didn't think it was a big deal when he went on to 'only' watch child porn and do whatever it was he did, re: Ashley Madison. I have to wonder, if it was Michelle who Josh decided to feel up 'over her clothes', would that have been an 'only'? As for the girls being interviewed, I didn't see the original airing but just watching this clip made me think ~ "These kids have not been raised to be so articulate. They're usually pretty clumsy when it comes to sentence structure, grammar, and the like. This sounds rehearsed." Just my two cents.
Honestly, the fact that JB and Michelle are so insistent that this isn’t a big deal makes me wonder what’s happened to make them normalize it to this degree. It’s disturbing. IMO JB is a control freak, treats his kids as property, and clearly feels 100% entitled to Michelle’s body any time he wants anything. Attitudes Josh embraced in his own marriage. It isn’t a huge leap to wonder if Josh learned this other behavior was okay from him too.
A lot of interviews are rehearsed we just aren't made aware of it. It is true that some of them are not articulate, I think a lot of this has to do with the control they are under growing up in the IBP which informs its members to be careful with words and to sound positive. Not mention being in the public eye, this would cause anyone stubble and overthink what their saying. That being said Jessa is a very natural and articulate speaker.
@@eliciaeldridge3452 We disagree. People who pepper every sentence with 'like' in seven places are not 'articulate'. I realize this has been the norm for at least a decade or more but it diminishes the speaker, no matter how bright he or she might be outside the field of linguistics. And beginning a sentence with 'me' is not 'articulate'. I think Jessa is probably smarter than the average Duggar but I do not confuse being smart with being articulate.
I don't believe for a second that Josh told them what he did. No way! I'd bet the Farm the girls ratted him out as they got a little older and strong enough to speak up. I also doubt there was only one incident. It would be a statistical anomaly if only happened once.
Honestly, the fact that JB and Michelle are so insistent that this isn’t a big deal makes me wonder what’s happened to make them normalize it to this degree. It’s disturbing. IMO JB is a control freak, treats his kids as property, and clearly feels 100% entitled to Michelle’s body any time he wants anything. Attitudes Josh embraced in his own marriage. It isn’t a huge leap to wonder if Josh learned this other behavior was okay from him too.
Don't you know that Michelle has said that women don't have the right to say no to their husbands? She says that they must be, 'Joyfully available at all times, even when sick or heavily pregnant. " she allows jimbob to feel entitled. Acts like she's not supposed to have a mind of her own. It's disgusting and sickening!
@@invernessity yes, however a person can be both a victim and an enabler. I grew up fundie-adjacent, but I've taken responsibility for my life to change it for the better for my child. I wish these kids would live their own lives and leave this whole "toxic patriarchy" behind.
@@invernessity She is a victim of sa, no doubt. But that doesn’t make her future actions, any less indoctrinated/brain washed. So i would have to consider her a willing participant.
Wait ... is he protecting Josh or protecting the extensive revenue he receives from the show? They went from being dirt poor to multi-millionaires owning lots of real estate. I imagine those reality show checks are greatly missed by the breeding duggar rabbits.
I think the higher ups at TLC need to be investigated. So many of their shows have have had problems with CP that it's getting scarier and scarier, somethings not right here.
I after all the stuff you read I remembered something that in an interview portion John David said that he told Josh that if he ever hurt Giana’s he’d come after him or something to that effect. That makes me wonder when John David actually knew of the abuse of the other sisters if he warned them off Jana earlier on it makes you think what what and how long did this really go on and did the kids know even before they told the parents.
@@carol-annesomerville7880 I agree, the daughters should sue the parents for the inflection of emotional abuse. Especially not getting them any sort of truth therapy when they say they were help by a licensed therapist yeah right just some fundamentalist quack.
The interview was sick enough as it was but to find out it was scripted makes it much worse in the publics eyes. This whole thing just seemed to snowball. The fact that the PR people told the girls what to say just shows how sick the group was/is. I cant believe how the girls went along with what the PR team did. However, remember the girls only knew what JB told them and they didnt completely find out until the trial just how sick Josh was!
@@WithoutACrystalBall I knew Jill remembered some of it cause she hit Josh and I thought she told her parents before Josh did, didnt he tell them cause he knew Jill would "rat him out" according to an interview? My comment was more about PR trying to 'spin it' to not look so bad.
There’s so much to comment on here, but suffice it to say that I will pray that justice is served and that the minds and hearts of all family members will be protected from further lingering torment.
Not Jessa it was stressful for Jill jessa was monitoring her sisters almost every word. Don't let pops down jill I need this money. babies to birth and plants 🪴 to buy!
As always Katie, you've done a very thorough job with your research. This was another great video loaded with lots of great information. I know I can always trust that what I hear in your videos has been fact checked and is true!!!😊
This is so disturbing! On so many levels! Poor Girls,,it's so traumatizing, that parents didn't protect them and made them to tell lies on TV to save show whitch they were not pay for!!! This is slavery or what!
Is it really though? I just got Sling & was shocked to see the Duggar show. But if you actually WATCH it’s a different show, about a British family. The biggest 🤮family in England or most birthed at least.
I seen an interview today with kaylee bates and she was the one who put the letter in the book about what happened. Then she let someone borrow the book while forgetting the letter was in it. She didn't say who the girl was but the girl was the one who leaked it. ( We will never get the full truth about what happens in the Duggar house.
I often worry about the babysitter who was attacked by josh and how she would've felt about the kelly interview, the duggars being allowed to continue their show and how she's coping. I would've sued if i was her.
It’s wild that they were coached by PR through the entire “scandal” but most of us still saw through it and felt odd about the interview. So even though they tried so hard to make it sound like nothing it didn’t work. But praise god and praise Josh for “growing” right
Could you please put on the subtitles for when you're doing a voice-over? I'm hard of hearing and if I can't read lips I have a very hard time understanding. Thanks you.
It appears that every other word out of Michelle and Jim Bob's mouth are their relationship to God but yet when I think of the ways in which they manipulate the truth to their financial benefit, I feel their actions and behavior is purely hypocritical. And, to use their children affected by Josh's behavior to make statements that are not true for JIm Bob and Michelle's financial gain. If I were one of their kids, I probably would feel like money is more important than the way I would feel.
Do they go to these lengths for Josh because they know what happened to him and actually need him to stay quiet? There is no way he gets to this place without being SA'd himself. There are studies that people that don't deal w/ their trauma can find themselves turned on by the type of abuse they suffered. I am in No way condoning any of the sick things Josh did, but what the hell happened to him and what do his parents know? There are some dark secrets in that family and I hope they are exposed because there are so many children in their world that need to be protected. Good work Katie keep their feet to the fire. You may never know it but hopefully your work will help save some of those kids.
I used to be a big duggar fan into this scandal of him touching his sisters came out. Now i just feel heart ache for the girls. I know some one personal who ran far with her 3 girls from ILB to save them. She knew the duggars were a joke from the beginning. Listening to her stories and now the josh's. Bs i cringe ever being fans of theirs
Am I the only one who thinks the most twisted part is when the PR rep tells Jill and Jessa to say "if this happened in my family now, I can only hope that I'd deal with it as well as my parents did". ??
Hey Everyone!
I know this video is long and kind of shocking. I was shocking reading these records. The depositions and other reports are equally horrible. This video was done as a voice over because it had so many documents to show.
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I have NO IDEA if I can recover my main account. Unfortunately, I have gotten nowhere because hackers have made it impossible to report the situation. I would love to be able to just build up my second account in the event I cannot recover the main page.
I hope you all have had a great day!
Katie
I actually really like this format. Very interesting content today. Hope you can get your accounts resolved.
I had my Instagram account taken by a hacker. Have you put in a secondary notification or something like this? I can't remember it exactly with what I did to protect my 2nd account. I never got my first account back. The person changed my password and the account in general. It was so mad about this. Good luck!
@@jeannetteashlin1725 they circumvented getting access by actually reporting me dead. I can log in - but then it says my account is memorialized & I can’t open the page. Then I’m directed to fill out a form that I can’t fill out because they’ve spammed me to the point that I’m locked out
Question: if you post on your 2nd account, are you at least able to tag in your main account? I’ve seen people do a dual post that is technically posted from two accounts. Though not sure if that would work for you until they fix it. I’m sorry people have done this
Do you know who did this to your instagram? Is it that dance group that made the Instagram account about you? I wouldn't doubt it but again I'm not sure. Because they seem like they will go to any lengths just like the duggars to protect their own
Making victims protect their abuser is beyond sick and twisted.
Yep...I had to. It is something that I will never get over. It has damaged me more I thing, than the SA itself. It's something you can't get back from some day, Jessa, will have much to say.
Seriously though 😳
Candace, I totally understand where you are coming from. It has been 50+ years, and the damage that was done has never completely healed.
@@candaceion9622 (hugs)
I pray that Josh gets 20 years. This makes me sick that this family hasn’t shown once ounce of remorse, trying to blame others among other things.
I want him to get life. He is a horrible predator, and he needs to be locked up for good! Jim Bob and Michelle cultivated the environment that this happened in, and they're still protecting Josh. Disgusting! 😡
@@amymunn3357 not only does he deserve life but his horrible parents do
He will 100%
@@amymunn3357 Unfortunately life isn’t an option. It should be but it’s not.
Yes until the baby is grown.
If this happened in any other house in America , the parents would be facing neglect charges for the girls and all the younger children would have been taken by cps. I don't understand how this family has gotten away with this.
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@@ihearya5228 yep unfortunately money speaks volumes
I can’t imagine being fed a script to read on national tv to minimize the abuse that actually happened. That in itself is abusive. It gives me a new appreciation of the world these girls had to live in. My compassion is with the girls.
A “quick feel” is still a sexual ASSAULT. The minimizing is disgraceful. Jessa is still in denial because she doesn’t have the support of a courageous and protective husband that the other girls have. Ben is a wimp. If she ever comes around I think it will really shake her to the core. I feel awful for them all.
Jessa follows the money bc her whimp does not have a job.
DEFINATELY! !Unlike Jessa, Jill and Jinger have strong husbands who refuse to be bullied by JB!! Ben is not a man, he follows whatever JB says!! It’s a shame, they both will follow JB no matter what!! I hope Joy Anna’s husband will stand up to JB, for his wife and childrens benefit!!
Absolutely!
Did you see the video of Ben on homsexuality? He essentially afmitted he is gay. Jessa is really not syrrounded by the right people (as in her parents don't care and her husband is with her as he doesn't want to sin).
@@jamiemohan2049 where can I find this video?
This is such BS, Michelle and JB are terrible parents.
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To say the least. To take it further, they emotionally damaged the girls by using such mild language when describing Josh's actions as "mild", "wrong choices", etc.
The worst parents always have the most kids.
Ok no
The more we find out about this the more disturbing it is. My heart bleeds for Josh's victims. His reign of terror must end.💔
They “dealt with it” by giving him a wife. Obviously didn’t fix it.
My thought is that the 2 Dads highly encouraged this, each with their own agenda
And CHILDREN!
@@justkathy8943 : The ANNA TEAM saw a comfortable life for stupid Anna.
Apparently she didn’t give him what he needed which means it’s all her fault? (According to the church)
This is just another example of the lengths rim job will go to in order to defend josh and make him look like an angel. Hopefully more kids see the light and get away from these narcissists
😂 at the rim job name
almost spat out my coffee in laughter. goo one 🤣
I'm gonna use this one 🤣
I had to reread that "rim job... rim job... oh my God... LOL"
😂😂 rim job is the best way I’ve ever heard him described.
Rim Job! 🤣😂🤣 Omg that's so funny 🤣
From now on he's Rim Job
This just makes me sick. The lies, the manipulation, everything JB & Michelle got away with, TLC's part in this, etc. I can't wait for Josh's sentencing.
And TLC has been in many other scandals scarily similar to this! (The quad squad gardeners for example) shit ish that TLC puts on their screens! Even kate plus 8 (hello she is questionable too!) the whole network needs to come down. Stop putting children on television and youtube families are just as bad. Its all horrible shut down the network and i no more platforms for children under 18 PLEASE 🙄 TLC needs to be sued by all the kids on their network for everything they enabled to do the sick things that have been done!
This is Outrageous. They Both Should Be in Prison Now. N Stop Using Gods Name.
I never really watched the Duggars but I did watch some other TLC shows, early on, & I wondered if the various "casts" (that should tell us these are Not reality) could rise above the fame & $$. Clearly very few, only individuals within shows, have survived. I refuse to watch TLC now.
Yes, it is WAY PAST TIME FOR JUSTICE!!! Sickening how family members are defending and minimizing such horrific behavior! Remember the victims.
It's so disgusting the way they defend Josh. They really are despicable human beings. Josh clearly hadn't changed, and in fact got worse. Real and genuine? They are absolutely not!!
Right?
Spot on. Totally agree. Shocking people
I am glad that there are at least some family members who aren't defending him. Jill and Derek really used to get on my nerves, but since they have gotten away from the cult, Jill has opened up and come into what I believe is her true self. I'm glad she and Jinger were able to get away. I wish Jessa would wise up, even though I don't really like her.
@@Nan-Elle what I find really sickening is that Anna kept having kids with him even after all of this stuff came out. Some people might defend her because she grew up in the cult too, but I don't. I think that's just giving her a cop out excuse that she can use.
I always thought the reason Jill was crying so hard because what she was saying wasn’t her truth☮️💗🙏
I think you right
@@abbywilson7222 what bothered me the most was how Jessa just stared at her in disgust. If my sister was crying like that. I would try to comfort her in some way. Jessa is so team Jim Slob!
She probably was reliving it all in her head. Her brother hurt her and now her parents were hurting her by not defending her and making her lie about all this yet again. She probably felt alone and betrayed. Jessa seemed not to 100% be there for her as well. You can see the divide.
He’s not able to control the narrative in any way and I don’t think his narcissistic personality can tolerate the situation.
Just seeing pictures of JB, Michelle and Josh makes me angry and disgusted everytime.
PR Director: (Say this)"There is nothing fake about our family..."
It's ironic that they had literally memorized that word for word rather than speaking in their own words. 🙄 Wow.
The way JB and Michelle use words like "foolish", "mistakes", "choices", and "mild" REALLY downplay the severity of Josh's actions. That also completely ignores how Josh most likely ended up having the urges that he does - he was probably "SA" himself. It's not a simple choice; it's an urge that doesn't go away without intense therapy, which is still no guarantee. Their description of the "changed Josh" sure didn't age well, now did it?!
How absolutely disturbing that the girls were told to say they "do not harbour bitterness" toward Josh, especially considering they did not receive proper therapy and should have spoken for themselves!!! That's extremely emotionally manipulative and damaging.
Violet Joy, it was easy IBLP uses manipulation and intimidation, the girls were raised in it - so it was nothing new
Bitterness is such an IBLP term the way it was used. And the whole, being told to say I’m allowed to say this because I personally went through this when we don’t really know if Jessa has truly gotten over what happened to her.
I thought they had gone as low as possible as parents. Boy was I wrong after this
Is it any wonder Jill is in therapy? There is NOTHING worse than being expected to lie to protect your families name except for actually forcing your victims that they are not actually a victim. I think Jill has too much self respect and class to go all out eventually and bash them and lay all of their sins out because she wants to protect her other siblings but I’d give anything to see her be able to be the one to lead the rest of her younger siblings to the truth and help change the future of them.
I think Jill & Joy are the only ones who have legitimately dealt with the whole truth!
I'm PROUD TO BE AN ATHEIST CAUSE AT LEAST I KNOW THAT I'M FREE!!! AND THESE ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS ARE FULL OF BRAIN WASHING HYPOCRISY!!!😅😅😅😅😅
Jim Bob should have taught his sons self-control and holiness as a christian virtue instead of his stupid "eyes right "technique. My daughter,who is a christian, was told by a male youth leader, that her dress was too short at knee level and that it was suggestive and tempting to men..,She was annoyed and replied," It is not a matter of me dressing to protect you . I suggest that you go and see a counsellor to ask for help in dealing with your immoral thoughts, which as a christian ,you should be controlling . I suggest that Jim Bob himself probably has problems He is behaving like the Taliban. If men cannot control their behaviour , it is they who should be locked up after 6PM, and have to wear electronic tags
The punishment for rape should be permanent physical or chemical castration, and pornography should be banned. My father was chased by a lady from his dance class . He changed his route to work and went to a different dancing class. He was not a christian at the time, but was a person with a strict moral code.Jim Bob should be protecting his daughters and grand-daughters-- not making excuses for weak ness and a lack of self-control in himself and his sons.
Yes, I tend to think Jill doesn’t want to makes things worse with the family she is still close with. I would love to see Johannah - Josie follow Jill, Jackson also.
@@sheilanixon913 Exactly
It does break my heart that JB and Michelle threw their daughters under the bus and praised the guilty one , Josh. That is abuse in my opinion, not to mention the other forms of abuse that happened in their home. Hopefully more and more kids will hold their parents accountable!
Sadly their religion they cherish the boys more than the girls. I'm guessing JB and Michelle probably blamed the girls for what Josh did to them. How sad but hopefully Josh's protection comes to an end next week and is finally held accountable for his actions!
How wrong they were about Josh. Of course his behavior escalated because it was allowed, justified and protected.
This is absolutely disgusting. There's damage control, and then there's just this sickening display. In Touch didn't re-victmize the girls...their own parents did
@@beccaallen4107 i agree it was always about money for JB all the families who put their kids on social media/television even ADMIT to not letting them watch it all because they dont agree with it. Its Hypocrisy through and through.
To me this shows how fake the family is, and that the reality show itself was heavily scripted. It makes me doubt everything they say and have said, and their humbleness and devotion seems to me like a sham.
Jim Bob probably paid a pretty penny for the letters from the neighbors and from Lacount Reber for sure... And, it would not be too far fetched to discover that Jim Bob proofread those letters to make sure that they said what he wanted them to say about Josh to Justice Brooks. Five more days till Josh finds out his prison sentence... Too bad that his sentence cannot be more than 20 years... Thank you Katie for all of your hard work here on your channel.
These neighbors also recently got 5 acres of Duggar land, too.
@@christinan.6117 can we say bribery on JB’s part
In Britain ,Joshua Duggar would be on the sexual offenders list for life.He would have to wear an electronic tag for blife and would not be allowed to go within 1 mile of the homes of his brothers, sisters and cousins ,who have under age children, It is time that Jim Bob and the men in his family learned the art of self-control ,as part of the holy way of life that they should be living as christians.
Josh brought this whole family down.
I totally believe this happened and is still going on. I felt all the pre-sentence letters followed a "script". All written in same format. All avoiding any ownership of what he occured.
For god's sake, what is with this family??? We all have been waiting for May 25th for a long time. I respect the Judge in this case, and know that he will do the right thing, and ignore the disgusting pleadings of these horrible parents. Keep up the good work Katie.
The suspicion the girls interview was scripted has always been around but to have it confirmed that it was scripted in order to protect a TV show is absolutely sickening. Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar putting money above the wellbeing of the girls is absolutely abuse, as far as I am concerned both Jim Bob and Michelle can join Josh in prison
Their younger girls should be removed from the house
They need to but they won't. They have too many people protecting them
And one day in HELL
I have to say, Katie, I thought that there was nothing you could report in the Duggars that would surprise me! But, you did!! I am beyond sick and disgusted that at the greed of JB and Michelle! The girls were made to be sacrificial lambs for the sake of money. Truly revolting!! There is coming a day when JB, Michelle, and Josh will be judged for everything. My heart and prayers goes out to the girls.
How embarrassing and frustrating for the girls to have to come forward about being preyed upon by their gross older brother on television. They were victimized again by Josh and failed again by JB and M.
Wish he'd own up to his horrible choices.
Yep. That’s the ONLY way to healing for those involved. It’s the only way JB can have restored relationships with his kids, the only way Anna will begin to heal, the only way her children will see a better glimpse of a future where truth is a very serious virtue. Without at least Anna standing for truth, the kids may not be able to learn the depth of truth as close to the core as possible. People mess up. Just own it.
Josh will not ever own up to what he did.
What show is JB trying to save now? Maybe just trying to save what's left of his image? Sorry but that's cooked, Duggars.
I think it was referring to when the show changed the name a few years back
@@rachekleblanc1091 yes, when the re-branding happened. It was no more than a rebranding.
Everyone knows how awful JimBoob and how he sold out his kids for money and not paying them and we all know how terrible he treated his daughters plus I believe he's the reason Josh is a per&^rt and very sick .person
CPS should take the remaining minors out of that home. They are worthless parents.
The fact that they went into the reality show with this in their family background shows how unimportant the parents considered it, and how they gaslit their daughters. As if it really wasn't a big deal because they 'dealt with it' and that somehow makes it all 'ok'.
It’s so sad to hear the interview wasn’t authentic. It’s disgusting that it was all rehearsed.
It does not surprise me.
I watched and instantly felt Jill was FORCED to do that. It made me so sick then and still does!! So gross 😡😡 I'm so glad Jill has distanced herself and her kids!!
I'm not surprised either and I would love it if JB could be prosecuted and taken to court. Throw Michelle in there too.
You could tell by Jills face she didnt like, one little bit, the whitewashing of Josh she was forced to do. I noticed precious, good-girl Jessa did most of the talking
The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil, JB.
Indeed. And so easy to get entangled in. We are all capable of it. I sure hope they all wake up soon before the chasm of brokenness gets wider and wider and children are so deceived that they can’t know real truth from acting. Sad.
Heartbroken and shocked!!! Get Real!!! Who do jb and his missus think they are fooling? They knew all along what josh was doing and that he's a real sicko. Those girls have come a long way!!! Thoughts and prayers for the girls!!!
It’s disgusting to have to hear about this. Those girls were sA’d by Josh and then again by their parents.
Chad said in part of the email that JB and Michelle “trained” their children in the right way!?! They are human beings not dogs! These parents never cease to amaze me!!
I remember watching this interview and I was thinking that this was all written by Jim Bob, know I the truth. Thank you for letting us all know this info. Keep up the Good work!
Those words “just a quick feel” make my skin crawl.
Did a lot more to Joy though & she & her husband didn’t even know until they heard the truth in court. Outrage on their part.
I always felt Jill’s face was telling a different story than her mouth in that interview. She held back most of the time, as well. Always clear Jessa was a true believer or lies as easily as her brother and parents.
This is a disgusting situation.
I have always wondered about the youngest girl I can never remember her name. I don’t know if things have changed but she was a wild child that nobody seemed to want to contain. I see that photo of Josh holding her and wonder if there wasn’t significant trauma other than just being a preemie. Also the very quiet one… Jordyn? Or all of the girls except Jana. And why did their other brothers not kick his butt sideways.
I’m Italian American. My family is a normal family, not the garbage you see on tv. My youngest aunt’s husband swept her out of the state… from PA to CO because one brother found out he knocked her around. He picked up his entire life and family and moved to the same town. When they got him sober, he was a great guy the rest of his life.
But if one of the older brothers- there were 6 brothers and 3 sisters, I can’t even begin to imagine what would have happened to them.
Josie is the youngest that was premie.
@L B nice to meet you!
These people treat women as second class. It's no different than the Taliban. It's horrific that these people sacrificed 4 daughters to save what they see as a more valuable son.
The whole Duggars reality show thing needs to RIP. I know many old fans who no longer watch ANY of it - this would be being supportive of that evil IBLP. A lot of Christians not watching anything Duggar for same reason we won’t watch the “family” with 4 wives reality show. Jinger, Jill and their two spouses I support because they have been the most honest about their toxic upbringing. Jessa and hubby hanging on with clickbait stuff to try and make a living off you tube. Bad move.
@@jenmontzingo yes indeed. The whole premise is dishonest. They are acting a script, making up little dramas to keep viewers and notice the dramatic stuff never turns out to be much in the end. Somebody pointed out to me once watch the Roloffs & Duggars and you hear the same lines said over and over. It is scripted being presented as if its not. Yep the reality show thing IS over
I struggle to understand why u have people giving u grief
U r honest unbiased informative
Hey Katie, u have such a good attitude about ur instagram attack. I’ve said it before, u demonstrate professionalism. Ty
oh it's not been fun behind the scenes. but I can't do anything. So I'm trying to stay upbeat.
This is ALL stomach turning! 😖The poor girls! Great investigation!
They will go to great lengths to protect Josh. This is sickening. Toss Jim Bob, Michelle and Anna in a cell with him. I can't wait for Wednesday.
I always said Jim Bob and Shelly belong in jail!!!!! They deserve jail time too!!!!
@@kimberlykeefner9567 they sure do.
I would like to know about the current status of the relationship between Jinger and Jessa. Jinger has changed so much and distanced herself while Jessa seems to be one of children still very tied to Jim Bob and the family. I’m curious how this has effected their once very close relationship.
There is no way Michelle doesn't know how toxic her husband is. His toxic thinking and control has destroyed and brought embarrassing shame to their family. Since she just sits by silently, she is as every bit to blame for the shit show that is their family.
Jim Bob only cares about Money, Josh, and both of their Reputations. That’s totally it!
constructing a narative long after the fact....the truth doesn't come into at all. messaging, protecting the brand, controlling the conversation, creating a narative........"always be selling" all the while Josh's proclivity for sexual deviance was accelerating.....
Josh,Jim Bob, Michael will never admit the we wrong doing. Let's just pray Josh get the max. Even though it will never be enough
I appreciate your coverage of this, Katie.
Jessa blessa well we have dealt with it its been 5 years, you see it in Jill's face that for her she hasn't healed. My niece is now almost 30 this happened to her when she was 12, so her saying that 5 years is enough is laughable but what can I expect out of JimBob jr.
These people are disgusting. ABSOLUTELY disgusting to brush this off, allow their dumpster with legs of a son to not take ownership of his actions and say it’s ok because they talk to someone called god. Please.
Their God is Satan.
Not anywhere close to the REAL GOD I believe in.
Seems like extreme coaching, who is Chad and where did/does he come from? The IBLP? Was he hired by the Duggar's or TLC? This is so messed up!
It's infuriating that these people use the word, 'only', in describing the violation of a child's body. No wonder Josh didn't think it was a big deal when he went on to 'only' watch child porn and do whatever it was he did, re: Ashley Madison. I have to wonder, if it was Michelle who Josh decided to feel up 'over her clothes', would that have been an 'only'? As for the girls being interviewed, I didn't see the original airing but just watching this clip made me think ~ "These kids have not been raised to be so articulate. They're usually pretty clumsy when it comes to sentence structure, grammar, and the like. This sounds rehearsed." Just my two cents.
Honestly, the fact that JB and Michelle are so insistent that this isn’t a big deal makes me wonder what’s happened to make them normalize it to this degree. It’s disturbing. IMO JB is a control freak, treats his kids as property, and clearly feels 100% entitled to Michelle’s body any time he wants anything. Attitudes Josh embraced in his own marriage. It isn’t a huge leap to wonder if Josh learned this other behavior was okay from him too.
A lot of interviews are rehearsed we just aren't made aware of it. It is true that some of them are not articulate, I think a lot of this has to do with the control they are under growing up in the IBP which informs its members to be careful with words and to sound positive. Not mention being in the public eye, this would cause anyone stubble and overthink what their saying. That being said Jessa is a very natural and articulate speaker.
@@eliciaeldridge3452 We disagree. People who pepper every sentence with 'like' in seven places are not 'articulate'. I realize this has been the norm for at least a decade or more but it diminishes the speaker, no matter how bright he or she might be outside the field of linguistics. And beginning a sentence with 'me' is not 'articulate'. I think Jessa is probably smarter than the average Duggar but I do not confuse being smart with being articulate.
Josh went from big girls to little children and babies. He changed, went from bad to the worst of the worst. JC has more work to do.
I don’t think even if JC came down and took Josh by the hand there’s any hope for Joshy 🤬
I had a feeling at the time the interview was scripted. I felt Jessa did a much better job at acting, just sensed her answers were not genuine.
I don't believe for a second that Josh told them what he did. No way! I'd bet the Farm the girls ratted him out as they got a little older and strong enough to speak up. I also doubt there was only one incident. It would be a statistical anomaly if only happened once.
Apparently Jill told.
Agreed. Criminals clearly have zero understanding of statistics.
This just makes me sick. Can’t even really explain how disturbing this is.
“We had dealt with it.” Apparently not!
I feel so bad for these ladies
Scarred for life because of their brother's actions
Truly sad 😢
Honestly, the fact that JB and Michelle are so insistent that this isn’t a big deal makes me wonder what’s happened to make them normalize it to this degree. It’s disturbing. IMO JB is a control freak, treats his kids as property, and clearly feels 100% entitled to Michelle’s body any time he wants anything. Attitudes Josh embraced in his own marriage. It isn’t a huge leap to wonder if Josh learned this other behavior was okay from him too.
Don't you know that Michelle has said that women don't have the right to say no to their husbands? She says that they must be, 'Joyfully available at all times, even when sick or heavily pregnant. " she allows jimbob to feel entitled. Acts like she's not supposed to have a mind of her own. It's disgusting and sickening!
the hacker making it seem like your dead makes me wonder if that is a message or threat to you. stay safe. thanks for the great videos.
This is a case study in how NOT to manage and effectively respond to sibling sexual abuse.
I always knew JB scripted these answers, Jessa sounded so rehearsed. When Jill cried, it seemed like it was disconnected from what she was saying.
Jessa is such a toxic sister to Jill shameful!
You are absolutely correct.
Jessa is an IBLP robot. Sad.
Jessa is a victim also. This sounds very much like victim shaming.
@@invernessity yes, however a person can be both a victim and an enabler. I grew up fundie-adjacent, but I've taken responsibility for my life to change it for the better for my child.
I wish these kids would live their own lives and leave this whole "toxic patriarchy" behind.
@@invernessity She is a victim of sa, no doubt. But that doesn’t make her future actions, any less indoctrinated/brain washed. So i would have to consider her a willing participant.
Wait ... is he protecting Josh or protecting the extensive revenue he receives from the show? They went from being dirt poor to multi-millionaires owning lots of real estate. I imagine those reality show checks are greatly missed by the breeding duggar rabbits.
I think the higher ups at TLC need to be investigated. So many of their shows have have had problems with CP that it's getting scarier and scarier, somethings not right here.
This family has plenty to hide!
I after all the stuff you read I remembered something that in an interview portion John David said that he told Josh that if he ever hurt Giana’s he’d come after him or something to that effect. That makes me wonder when John David actually knew of the abuse of the other sisters if he warned them off Jana earlier on it makes you think what what and how long did this really go on and did the kids know even before they told the parents.
@@carol-annesomerville7880 I agree, the daughters should sue the parents for the inflection of emotional abuse. Especially not getting them any sort of truth therapy when they say they were help by a licensed therapist yeah right just some fundamentalist quack.
That still picture of Jessa and Jill, Jessa has a look of begging for help and Jill looks disgusted 😢
Dang Jessa you rehearsed that to the letter!
Absolutely disgusting, even if it's 'old news'.
JIM AND WIFE NEED TO BE IN JAIL FOR COVER UPS!!!!! my God I'm get so PISSED over this.its sick AF
JB gives Christians a bad name. He needs to make a true apology for all the lies!
They weren’t “walking through”this difficulty…..the Duggar’s were RUNNING away from the Truth!
The interview was sick enough as it was but to find out it was scripted makes it much worse in the publics eyes. This whole thing just seemed to snowball. The fact that the PR people told the girls what to say just shows how sick the group was/is. I cant believe how the girls went along with what the PR team did. However, remember the girls only knew what JB told them and they didnt completely find out until the trial just how sick Josh was!
Well,that's not true. Jill & Jessa both have memories of what happened.
They absolutely DID know what happens. It isn't something that you "sleep" through
@@WithoutACrystalBall I knew Jill remembered some of it cause she hit Josh and I thought she told her parents before Josh did, didnt he tell them cause he knew Jill would "rat him out" according to an interview?
My comment was more about PR trying to 'spin it' to not look so bad.
There’s so much to comment on here, but suffice it to say that I will pray that justice is served and that the minds and hearts of all family members will be protected from further lingering torment.
You could tell in the interview it was bothering Jill and Jessa. Remember the tears?
It was obvious that Jill was not comfortable the entire time
Not Jessa it was stressful for Jill jessa was monitoring her sisters almost every word. Don't let pops down jill I need this money. babies to birth and plants 🪴 to buy!
Ahhh yes content I love ❤️ my guilty pleasure is getting updates on everything on the Duggars😭😂 I find it so interesting
Glad you like them!
Thanks 4 the update and all of your work. I am sure u have had several sleepless nites while working and editing .
As always Katie, you've done a very thorough job with your research. This was another great video loaded with lots of great information. I know I can always trust that what I hear in your videos has been fact checked and is true!!!😊
Boy, this father just wants to “preach”, doesn’t he?
He’s a dogma-machine. He mingles truth with lies with such meticulous skill!
This is so disturbing! On so many levels! Poor Girls,,it's so traumatizing, that parents didn't protect them and made them to tell lies on TV to save show whitch they were not pay for!!!
This is slavery or what!
Y'all all email tweet contact Tubi they are advertising reruns of 18 kids and counting. They must be removed from being aired.
I saw that a few days ago and I was shocked as well
@@rachekleblanc1091 i tweeted them about it no responses yet
Is it really though? I just got Sling & was shocked to see the Duggar show. But if you actually WATCH it’s a different show, about a British family. The biggest 🤮family in England or most birthed at least.
@@hawthorneantilles6755 this had a pic of the American duggars
@@hawthorneantilles6755 every other person who has been linked to csa has been erased from tv
“We had nothing to hide.” 🙄
Yeah, ok, JimBob.
Rim Job 🙃🤣
I seen an interview today with kaylee bates and she was the one who put the letter in the book about what happened. Then she let someone borrow the book while forgetting the letter was in it. She didn't say who the girl was but the girl was the one who leaked it. ( We will never get the full truth about what happens in the Duggar house.
I often worry about the babysitter who was attacked by josh and how she would've felt about the kelly interview, the duggars being allowed to continue their show and how she's coping. I would've sued if i was her.
It’s wild that they were coached by PR through the entire “scandal” but most of us still saw through it and felt odd about the interview. So even though they tried so hard to make it sound like nothing it didn’t work. But praise god and praise Josh for “growing” right
This is so disgusting and it makes me sick to my stomach. Katie you are doing an incredible job with your reporting.
Could you please put on the subtitles for when you're doing a voice-over? I'm hard of hearing and if I can't read lips I have a very hard time understanding. Thanks you.
Hi there! I'm sorry but captions are on for all videos. This is automatic by RUclips. You may just need to wait for them to load
@Kryssy Smith You can turn on subtitles on your devises, even if the creator hasn't included them.
@@WithoutACrystalBall Thank you.
That attorney was spot on giving PR advice, but eventually it blew on their faces, specially Jim Bob's
It appears that every other word out of Michelle and Jim Bob's mouth are their relationship to God but yet when I think of the ways in which they manipulate the truth to their financial benefit, I feel their actions and behavior is purely hypocritical. And, to use their children affected by Josh's behavior to make statements that are not true for JIm Bob and Michelle's financial gain. If I were one of their kids, I probably would feel like money is more important than the way I would feel.
Do they go to these lengths for Josh because they know what happened to him and actually need him to stay quiet? There is no way he gets to this place without being SA'd himself. There are studies that people that don't deal w/ their trauma can find themselves turned on by the type of abuse they suffered. I am in No way condoning any of the sick things Josh did, but what the hell happened to him and what do his parents know? There are some dark secrets in that family and I hope they are exposed because there are so many children in their world that need to be protected. Good work Katie keep their feet to the fire. You may never know it but hopefully your work will help save some of those kids.
The total disregard for the girls by JBoob and Michelle is beyond disturbing 🤮😡😥
I used to be a big duggar fan into this scandal of him touching his sisters came out. Now i just feel heart ache for the girls. I know some one personal who ran far with her 3 girls from ILB to save them. She knew the duggars were a joke from the beginning. Listening to her stories and now the josh's. Bs i cringe ever being fans of theirs
Oh what a wicked web weave when first we practice to decieve
Am I the only one who thinks the most twisted part is when the PR rep tells Jill and Jessa to say "if this happened in my family now, I can only hope that I'd deal with it as well as my parents did". ??
Sadly nobody (Duggar)has learned anything from this. Maybe a few in the outside world have.