@@dslily Yo for the record I love your content, but I think you're kinda feeding the idiots and trolls. You said your opinion and 99% of people agree, fuck em you don't have to explain anything. People who think streamers cant have their own opinions on shit need to seek help end of story tbh.
@@beingbeyonddat Probably not shes to busy trying to filter through those garbage life based witches he tried to sell the community as being the best in the beginning of release. Notice his most recent video is ES and he isn't getting rolled every boss attempt anymore? About time he listened to his chat. I mean I get it his new hairstyle or lack thereof was causing brain freeze now he just looks like a giant dick with ears matches his actions of late I guess.
I mean for real. One randomly picked sirgog video has more substance than whole RUclips sections for some games. It's basically PoE and niche strategy games content that hasn't turned into borderline AI slop yet.
People also forget that flashy/fun thumbnails and actual clickbait are not the same. One is just to grab attention, the other is to grab attention by deliberate and complete falsehoods. PS: Lmao you literally talk about it a few minutes later nvm.
Sometimes if I suspect something is complete clickbait with falsehoods, I check the youtube comments first, if anyone mentions that the title/thumbnail are not at all related to the video, I click off, most of the time though, I don't even bother clicking on some videos as there some patterns you start to recognize.
I thought they went overboard with the ES increases on the tree but the increased leg aoe and Knees Over Matter nodes are on another level. Fix ya game GGG
The level of tourism is at all time highs so I kind of saw this coming. For God's sake I saw a top comment on a Ghazzy video telling him to stop simping for you. Our community has standards of conduct. We need to make that abundantly clear. We don't need to make compromises for these people.
@@JayM928 And to think I thought the amount of clueless arrogant morons in the PoE 1 community was a lot when reading comments like "this build doesnt work!! I cant sustain mana!!!" (doesn't have mana leech spec'd or mana on kill on gear) and yet the PoE 2 tourists have proven just how annoying new players can be and not just relating to knowledge about the game but saying stupid shit and stirring up drama.
Bad guides destroy player retention on POE 2 and POE 1 alike. I knew people who quit POE over "bricked builds" due to terrible build guides saying their starter builds could "clear all uber content with ease" and it turns out they were only ~T11 viable with absolute max gear lol.
the shit rarity system, botters, hackers, gatekeepers and massive endgame gear price gap is what's killing player retention not "bricked builds" that can easily be fixed anytime with some gold lol
@@ohhkennny766 idk man you can definitely get to t15 maps with under 20 exa build. botters and RMT is unavoidable. also it means game is thriving. Rarity makes barrier of entry easier and capping harder. If you look through one of her videos, she teaches how to use the trade site efficiently. If you're having problems with rarity meta, it's either you're just overreacting and unable to purchase a piece of gear over 20div anyway or you've already spent over 200 hours into the game and is too competitive with people selling shit. either way, if you're playing the game, not the market, this shouldn't be a problem.
@@ohhkennny766 You know people that quit for those reasons or are you just listing things you don't like and have heard others complain about? There's a lot to dislike about POE2. Not sure that I'd quit over any of those things you've listed -- and I'm not even a big fan of the game. I have logged back into POE1 a couple times in December.
@@ohhkennny766 people call you bad for being bad? "GATEKEEPERS!!!". It's possible to clear t15 with literally any class in the game with no more than 5 exalts per gear slot. Rarity is shit, absolutely true, but that's the only truth. botters? where? hackers? don't use 3rd party programs from non-well known sources in an early access new game? you made poor choices, that's your own responsibility. "Easily fixed with some gold"???? bruh? D4 much?
yeah, some times its the person's individual mechanical abilities and game knowledge that can carry a build. so when a bad guide maker creates a bad starter build, they know how to position themselves when fighting and clearing the mobs making the build feel a lot stronger than reality. and there is also the chance the increased knowledge/mechanics is the main defense of the build, so when a new person tries to plays the build, there is effectively no defensive layer to save them from bad playing.
How does she even operate the computer with her legs in the way. I cant fathom it. Just how large is that chair? How close is the keyboard and how large is the moving range of the mouse? I need some technical data about the dimensions.
I am a 6 feet guy and regularly do my leg days at the gym, so I have quite big legs. I can't put both of my legs up like that, but I would often have one of them up exactly like her and I would do programming and gaming like that. If my legs were smaller and didn't have anything between them, I can easily see myself having my legs like that lol. Dunno how it is hard to fathom.
@@razerx100honestly, it's just the chair dimensions that throw me. Most every office/desk chair I've used just *doesn't have enough friggin space* to sit comfy like that.
I do it right now...and i am not a tall guy, but not extra short either ( 173 cm ). Its just more comfortable like that for me, sometimes both knees up sometimes one leg under me and on knee up, and there is a bonus of using your knee as an arm rest. I play games like that, infact when there is a boss fight in Poe2 i pull my knees up for better focus and concentration :D
I've only uploaded a handful of PoE 2 videos and my experience has been nothing but positive. The community has been not only welcoming but incredibly helpful. I have viewers who are constantly providing me helpful advice or tips to improve my builds without being condescending or rude, which is wild compared to most games I play. All my first impressions from this scene have been 10/10. Down be a clown and you wont get clowned on, seems pretty straight forward to me.
Hey its the thorns guy! I was literally having a conversations with a friend yesterday after we watched the drama unfold and I used you as an example of someone new to the scene who doesn't proclaim to be an expert, and I saw nothing but positive comments on your videos. It is really shameless that RGV blames the community for being gatekeepery and toxic when it is really just a reflection of the trash he chooses to put out there. And the willpower of you to play thorns warrior up to t15 is just mind boggling to me, especially as a new player, well done sir
There are some absolute legends in the POE creator community. If you jump in with respect and don't roll in like Jerry Springer just bringing noise for clicks, I doubt you'd see any hate at all. As a viewer/player only, I have to say that I'm a little disgruntled about how much harder it has become to get useful info now. There is just so much more noise on RUclips and the blog space now. Typical click farming stuff where the creator reads a post with basic info and regurgitates it. I'll try to search something like "how does [skill 1] interact with [skill 2]?" and the first several pages of Google are dozens of new generic BS sites that say, "a skill comes from gems...gems can be cut from uncut..." This was not the case just two months ago. From my perspective, the popularity of the game has been 99.9% negative so far. It's no big deal. Just annoyances. I don't know if anyone else feels this way. Having said that, when new ppl jump on the scene and talk crap about ppl that have no need to really defend themselves, it still feels like a new really loud, rude, and obnoxious neighbor moved in and acts like you're the jerk when you don't embrace them. Life goes on, but to some degree it's hard not to think about how nice the community was before all the new ppl trampled onto the scene.
It feels like you are mad about not getting enough attention and your streams are not getting the viewers you think you deserve. Your videos/streams include high quality and useful information however the way you present them doesnt meet the quality of the information (stream quality, weird niche backgrounds, personality etc) so I try to avoid watching your content unless there is nothing else to watch or another streamer watches/comments on your videos.
RageGaming should present their content through an autobiographical lens and develop themselves as characters which people have interest. I like the polish on their videos and I’m a sucker for the accent, but there is no reason to be producing guide-style content when they could just come out and say “How I got my divines” instead of “BEST currency farming strategy”. That way, suboptimal decisions are not being shoveled toward the masses as a suggestion from them, and instead they are just sharing their experience with us. That would be fine. Look at how DM did it. Look at how Subtractem morphed from that into a noob guide when he eventually morphed into a subject matter expert, and still waffles back into “this is what I’m up to, use at your own risk” territory, which is FINE because he isn’t branding himself as an expert with his content, presentation, or titles. The difference between “I take acetaminophen for aches and pains.” And “I recommend that you all take acetaminophen for aches and pains” is huge. The former, anyone can say with impunity. The latter is uninformed guidance to the masses which a medical professional wouldn’t risk, and which a TikTok mom would spew in an ignorant bliss. And you are like a medical professional seeing this garbage advice from the TikTok mom and saying to people “don’t take medical advice from TikTok moms like RageGaming”. I just don’t get how they don’t get it.
Btw it's amazing the fact that when I started playing PoE 5 years ago your cam quality still the same, watching this on 1080p and 480p looks exactly the same LOL
Damn, you are so far into the future that you already started to play the 5th entry in the PoE series years ago and yet the cam quality hasn't changed... Unbelievable:O
Thanks for keeping it real Lily. I just started watching you since PoE2 early access. I much prefer to play games myself rather than watching others play games, but watched some streams over the holidays for Twitch drops. I appreciate your honesty and really enjoy seeing a fellow gaming nerd just being themself and sharing helpful hints along the way.
I'm Brazilian, and I'm telling you that male chauvinism here is no different. We admire you because you are a strong woman. Dealing with this kind of idiot is not easy. Lots of strength and patience, we are rooting for you!
The community is one of the reasons why I have played PoE for more than decade, and creators remaining true to themselves and not following dumb trends is a big part of it, so thank you for contributing to that.
Lily's thumbnails is the one of the best things to see whenever I search for new poe1/poe2 contents daily, plus the quality of the camera is *chef kiss*
Lilly has had a lot of bad takes, how about let the people judge what's misleading content. That's what the dislike button and comment sections are for. Like why even drum this up to this extent except for views? But here i am engaging into this garbage content. ✌️Yall.
Misinformation isn't a matter of opinion, it's a fact. You can't say something along the lines of 1 + 1 = 4 like Rage has done in a few of their videos and just go "oh well, it's up to the individual to judge if it's wrong or not" when they aim all of their content towards new players who CAN'T figure out that it's wrong. This is the literal basis of the drama, if you present information that is just blatantly false and new players end up with a bricked build and can't progress and potentially leave the game as they likely haven't got enough gold nor the possibility to farm enough gold to respec within a reasonable timeframe, do you just go "lol too bad, you should've known"? I know that it's like this in every other content sphere like D4 or Last Epoch, but PoE is very self-regulating and it's been calling out bullshit channels for years, and will continue to do so.
"egirl justifies thirst trapping with knees" lmao these chapters. I have to say that I wasn't a viewer until recently when I followed your build for Shockburst rounds/Galvanic shards on poe2 but you are definitely a peak poe content creator.
I specifically enjoy lily's streams and videos because of how she will call people out for being wrong or stupid and doesn't care about having rehearsed intros and outros. It's refreshing to see someone just do what they want and say what they want to say in an intentional and conscientious way.
As being a somewhat-noob to POE2, I appreciate you for calling attention to other channels that are misrepresenting information. The last thing I want is to watch a video or guide of some sort only to later find out what I "learned" was actually just the creator making guesses or being flat out wrong about the info they presented. So, thanks!
You being somewhat new to PoE2 is her content to grab. She doesn't tell you why RageGaming atlas tree is bad, in the video that she's talking about. She tells you in ANOTHER Video to go watch someone else but doesn't link the video in question. She's done the same thing as the guy she is calling out. He gave a shout-out to Aeroplane ch without linking, she did the same to Fug's ch lol. So no... she isn't the iceing on the cake that makes it good.. shes doing the same thing for this situation. I'm only writing this because at this very moment I only care about this subject after just watching the video. I'll no longer care once I hit the Reply button.
Is it bad that the only thing I was paying attention to, is on the right it looks like the pillar/bust along with the mic arm looks like it's holding the katana. Wait what was this video about...Oh right knees.
''You need to touch grass'' - Said the lady sitting all day behind a screen reading simps, playing games and creating drama around other people creating content about games.
This is the tamest shit I've seen and you call it drama. The irony couldn't be more lost on you, touch some grass. This is the most nothing burger shit ever.
Highly unlikely, even if gets to the level of full on harassment. Unless you're one of the top thot streamers, then you can just ask twitch to ban anyone.
Not directly but if you block someone on Twitch that prevents them from watching your stream... on that account at least. Of course if they're parasocial enough they can make a new account or logout and watch you.
@@moopuspoopus Honestly, with the way Twitch moderates their entire platform, there really aren't many actual rules anyone can reasonably be able to follow.
I never knew RUclipsrs had legs. I thought they were floating heads or torsos like in Futurama. Thanks for flashing them chicken legs, DS L, and setting the record straight. Unfortunately, having legs invalidates all your content. Also, my daughter sits with her knees up at the table every night until her mom yells at her for bad posture, it's not at all uncommon. Be careful about straining that sciatica or you may have regerts in your 40s.
Best outtro ive heard all year love the videos and thank you for no click bait titles gets very annoying after awhile when you see so much of it ya know
All power to you, lily. That got increasingly weirder, but I just appreciate your views and opinions on the game and the biz cause they feel genuine and direct
I click on flashy shiny bs thumbnails for the tittles not for the images. So, what i do i read the tittle fast forward the video while i read the comments to see if the video is good or pure garbage.
9:38 for real, most PoE content creators seem SO much different than the usual content creator its like content creation from 10-15 years in the past sometimes (i mean that in a good way though)
2:50 it's not like you have a choice anymore if I were to not click on "click bait" or "flashy thumbnails" anymore, I might as well unsubscribe from 99% of creators on youtube trying to call someone out for doing so doesn't really make sense
Your thumbnails/personality is entertaining and I enjoy your videos. Personal favorites are your flowcharts/rankings. Like that video you ranked foods based on several factors, including blast potential (lmao). Or the the flowcharts where you ask "are you a meta cuck?" ok then this is the build for you. Good stuff.
i don't think the term 'flashy' should be used, unless you literally mean flashy. just call clickbait what it is (either a thumbnail is clickbait, or it's not). the "omg pikachu" face that you sometimes use in a small amount of your thumbnails is just plain clickbait, but other than that, you don't engage with clickbait thumbnails hardly ever, which is why i even follow you. i would prefer you not doing clickbait full-stop, but whatever, you do you. i think that a CC's content should stand on its own, and if you need to clickbait viewers into watching your video, then you are just plain 'poopoo trash'
I dove hard into POE2 because like 12 years ago, I LOVED POE1. I promised myself I wouldn't watch any videos about POE2 because I KNEW I was going to run into 1 of 2 scenarios: 1. Videos showing me that everything I'm doing (and having fun with) is wrong and here's 5 trillion video hours showing me that. 2. Videos talking about video game drama. SIgh. It never goes away. It's like Peter Pan isn't one person. Peter Pan is the combination of hundreds of thousands of people. The boy who never grew up is hundreds of thousands of people. The worst thing I can imagine is that people who actually care about finding community, find all this garbage and just get turned off of the whole thing.
6:30 ds L: "I don't sit like this because I want to. I have to sit like this. If I were to sit normally, my mapping skills will immediately be reduced by roughly 40%."
Is this an "end game" viable build ? I followed up to the part she said: "you don't look at tailor swift" and I found myself looking at tailor swift... like... wtf how am I supposed to farm divines with this ?
Why do you keep saying these videos are actively ruining peoples experience? Have you any data for this or are you making up shit again like you did the trading section of the last video? 😂 I don't know why it's so hard for you to understand that most people, especially new people are not playing how you play, they don't need fully optimized builds to have fun. Hope this helps 👍
Because it is actively ruining peoples experiences, why would you want to sit there later on and grind old stuff because your build cant clear your lvls content. As a new player, following a dogpile of a guide and having to do tedious tasks to refund your talents or grind for better gear for your build and such to then having to follow a better guide makes people quit, misleading and clickbait videos are toxic for the games they partake in. Especially if you have limited time, no one is ever gonna invest 20-50 hours on a character to then have it be practically useless. To then go like "Yeah, with my 4 hour playtime on the weekends I might just spend another 20-50 hours lvling a new one so I can not follow useless guides" thats absurd and not realistic Tell me you don't play this genre without telling me you do lmao, dogpile builds and guides might work in d4 cuz its such a easy game in comparison. Where respec does not take even 2 seconds to get or do. Its uber casual, this game is not. There is a reason a lot of people look for guides when the talent trees and passives equal the amount of a star chart, why you might ask? Because they don't want to invest a lot of time to understand it, majority don't care and wont. Its how its always gonna be, taking the easy way. But when the easy way is guides or builds that ruin your experience, why would anyone play touch the game again? Oh and most people don't optimise their builds, or want to. But even then, they don't want to feel like they cant do anything now do they? I don't know why its so hard for you to understand that most people aren't gonna invest a lot of time, be disappointed and still keep going Hope this helps👍
@idkpengi Doesn't help and I didn't read it because you're first line tells me you didn't read mine. Show me evidence where his videos have hurt new players, you can't. Sorry about that now fella 👍
@@varianngaming9403 Oh yeah, if youre on the "prove me this, prove me that" then prove that he has helped anyone. Give me hard evidence that whoever "his" videos have actually helped anyone, where are those? Oh wait you cant, cuz its misleading
I really don't care about click-baity titles or click-baity thumbnails. but tbh there is not really a difference to me.... don't judge a book by its cover. check out the video / creator and decide for yourself if you like the content despite the algorithm-pleasing stuff 👍😁
I'm not upset by any of the drama. If anything I'm appreciative for it because as a week old content creator, I now understand that I need to make sure I keep any click bait toned down because that shit is everywhere. So thank you. I had no idea that people hated it to this extent, and I see there's so many people who have been burned by click bait guides only to lose all their gold to re-speccing and getting frustrated.
As an enlightened member of the silent minority, I just use an extension called clickbait remover and I don't see thumbnails at all. I did see the legs from the drama tho. Good clickbait.
I just have to say it I watched Rage Gaming's videos when playing Lies of P and liked them but, the second I saw him uploading poe 2 videos I knew they would be a waste of my time to watch. Make of that what you will
The thing about thumbnails, they can be flashy and colorful, but I hate when they are clickbait. I don't care if I'm the 1% who cares, but I'm not gonna sit and shut up about it just because my opinion doesn't matter. If it's not clickbait, then sure. Clickbait means in this case, if the thumbnail has nothing to do with what the video is about.
softcore = standard right now, if you die your character stays and you dont lose any items, hardcore = your character dies and it's gone (technically goes to standard, so right now in beta it's not really a penalty if you want to continue playing ur character) making you lose items and hours of effort for masochists, but typically hardcore players only play on the hardcore league so a character being sent to standard is pretty much perma death to them.
@@dslily oh very strange namming. I understand the hardcore, and that the char is usually going to standard leauge after it dies but hearing softcore i thought about something like hardcore but you can die twice? XD IDK why don't people just call its standard or "normal" softcore just sounds wierd xD
@@GolompReformed The reasoning for that is because in PoE 1 (and will the be case for PoE 2) there are huge content updates every 3 months called "leagues" which are temporary leagues lasting 3 months and have a fresh economy reset meaning everyone starts from lvl 1. Pretty much 99% of the playerbase plays in them and so standard is really just a meme way to play the game. Not that you can't do it or should feel bad about playing on Standard, but most people find Standard not interesting enough to continue playing. Hell most people who play the "leagues" only play for the first month at most. So "Softcore" is called that because dying has no permanent punishment and is more chill aka a "softer" way to play the game. You'll also hear people refer to "Softcore" as "Softcore Trade League" because most people who play Softcore do so because they want to play more crazy insane high DPS builds, not care about dying and farm tons of currency selling valuable items and other things in the economy. A lot or most HC players play SSF or "Solo Self Found" meaning they cannot trade to other players and all the items they get have to be earned from their own gameplay.
i agree that one thing is doing a flashy thumbnail to grabs people attention and another is just doing clickbaits for RMT sites, the latter is dishonorable. Remember that the first ones are watching, exile!
Does any of this matter
Nah. But it gets 75,939,761.7 clicks.
no, there is not a single poe video that matters this is a video game sir it's called entertainment
@@dslilythen maybe chill on the drama and causing beef with other cc’s
@@MikeyJ28 Crap creators? She can shit on them as much as she wants. When the next big game gets released those tourists will be gone anyways.
@@dslily Yo for the record I love your content, but I think you're kinda feeding the idiots and trolls. You said your opinion and 99% of people agree, fuck em you don't have to explain anything. People who think streamers cant have their own opinions on shit need to seek help end of story tbh.
The citadel is in the direction the knees of Lily are pointing at
Comedy gold
I got a citadel spawned right next to the starting point, in SSF though.
underrated comment. XD
But what about the brooms?
😂😂😂
I gota start adding my newly waxed legs to my thumbnails 😅
I'd watch more of your videos 😂
Wax your head on stream coward!!! 😂
Does your wife know how hard you simp this girl?
@@beingbeyonddat Probably not shes to busy trying to filter through those garbage life based witches he tried to sell the community as being the best in the beginning of release. Notice his most recent video is ES and he isn't getting rolled every boss attempt anymore? About time he listened to his chat. I mean I get it his new hairstyle or lack thereof was causing brain freeze now he just looks like a giant dick with ears matches his actions of late I guess.
@@beingbeyonddatDid you just assume Lilys gender?!?!?! You are worse part of youtube comments!There is no place for you here! Reported.
Guys watch the video on 144p for the full experience
Thanks for the advice 👍
It's like 2008 all over again
ur right
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I was wondering the same thing. Is there any way to make the quality worse ?
Just turned it to 144p halfway thru, genuinely laughed. Thank you, Exile
Best camera quality 200 million frame rates, one shotting pixels, overpowered lighting
Archmage camera gg
"We are a shining diamond in a sea of diarrhea."
- Lily, 2024
Channeling critikal there
I mean for real. One randomly picked sirgog video has more substance than whole RUclips sections for some games.
It's basically PoE and niche strategy games content that hasn't turned into borderline AI slop yet.
lily in the sky with diamonds
Lily's become so powerful that even her Chroma Key filter has an elemental ailment.
got me good hahahaha
It removed the grass so that she doesn't touch it by mistake 😂
People also forget that flashy/fun thumbnails and actual clickbait are not the same. One is just to grab attention, the other is to grab attention by deliberate and complete falsehoods.
PS: Lmao you literally talk about it a few minutes later nvm.
exactly
They don't forget that, they're just too stupid to understand simple things.
@@dslily Yep, theres a fine line between blatantly misleading and just eye catching.
pure bamboozlement you might say
Sometimes if I suspect something is complete clickbait with falsehoods, I check the youtube comments first, if anyone mentions that the title/thumbnail are not at all related to the video, I click off, most of the time though, I don't even bother clicking on some videos as there some patterns you start to recognize.
So sick of all these POE creators not talking about what really matters - the drones. We need Rhykker.
Fleekazoid has a video.
Rhykker has been absorbed by D4s ultimate form he can't make it
What happened to last epoch
Sometimes I think I’m a nerd, then I remember there’s RUclips commenters that are pressed about knees.
Bro if she ain't chaste I ain't chasin'.
Knees? Bro even eyes are enough for me..
I think the correct term is Shincubus*
XD
Or Knee-Girl :-)
flemcubus
Lily is so pale the light shining from her knees was blinding !
Biggest PoE dramas "your build bad"
the only dramas worth any thought honestly.
YOINK
Rmt.
oh you sweet summer child
Anyone remember that tab with the 7 mirrors in it and the drama associated with it
@@moritzgoldi453 remembering the good old times
I thought they went overboard with the ES increases on the tree but the increased leg aoe and Knees Over Matter nodes are on another level. Fix ya game GGG
🤣🤣🤣🤣 bro
LMAO, "knees over matter"
Dude!!! Knees Over Matter is pure gold! 🤣
I came to the video for the knees. Don't let the haters take them down.
shes already grown over 10% since the "drama" started, she cant be stopped
that was always the goal XD
I've noticed the increase in these vids, it seems to be working...but also ragegaming is a notorious stealer of content so they can get f**ked
And she's still not even close to 100k yikes
@@riothegod1831 I bet she hits 100k before you hit 100
@@daetheI’m sure he’s not going for that?
KNEES
The level of tourism is at all time highs so I kind of saw this coming. For God's sake I saw a top comment on a Ghazzy video telling him to stop simping for you. Our community has standards of conduct. We need to make that abundantly clear. We don't need to make compromises for these people.
Right?
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Yeah, when I saw people in comments telling Mathil he didn't know what he was talking about...... Good God
@@JayM928 And to think I thought the amount of clueless arrogant morons in the PoE 1 community was a lot when reading comments like "this build doesnt work!! I cant sustain mana!!!" (doesn't have mana leech spec'd or mana on kill on gear) and yet the PoE 2 tourists have proven just how annoying new players can be and not just relating to knowledge about the game but saying stupid shit and stirring up drama.
Remember Global 820.
Bad guides destroy player retention on POE 2 and POE 1 alike. I knew people who quit POE over "bricked builds" due to terrible build guides saying their starter builds could "clear all uber content with ease" and it turns out they were only ~T11 viable with absolute max gear lol.
the shit rarity system, botters, hackers, gatekeepers and massive endgame gear price gap is what's killing player retention not "bricked builds" that can easily be fixed anytime with some gold lol
@@ohhkennny766 idk man you can definitely get to t15 maps with under 20 exa build. botters and RMT is unavoidable. also it means game is thriving. Rarity makes barrier of entry easier and capping harder. If you look through one of her videos, she teaches how to use the trade site efficiently.
If you're having problems with rarity meta, it's either you're just overreacting and unable to purchase a piece of gear over 20div anyway or you've already spent over 200 hours into the game and is too competitive with people selling shit. either way, if you're playing the game, not the market, this shouldn't be a problem.
@@ohhkennny766 You know people that quit for those reasons or are you just listing things you don't like and have heard others complain about?
There's a lot to dislike about POE2. Not sure that I'd quit over any of those things you've listed -- and I'm not even a big fan of the game. I have logged back into POE1 a couple times in December.
@@ohhkennny766 people call you bad for being bad? "GATEKEEPERS!!!". It's possible to clear t15 with literally any class in the game with no more than 5 exalts per gear slot. Rarity is shit, absolutely true, but that's the only truth. botters? where? hackers? don't use 3rd party programs from non-well known sources in an early access new game? you made poor choices, that's your own responsibility. "Easily fixed with some gold"???? bruh? D4 much?
yeah, some times its the person's individual mechanical abilities and game knowledge that can carry a build. so when a bad guide maker creates a bad starter build, they know how to position themselves when fighting and clearing the mobs making the build feel a lot stronger than reality. and there is also the chance the increased knowledge/mechanics is the main defense of the build, so when a new person tries to plays the build, there is effectively no defensive layer to save them from bad playing.
This is unacceptable.
Lily baiting new players into thinking poe players have knees. Haram.
knees
Gamer knees technically.
How does she even operate the computer with her legs in the way. I cant fathom it. Just how large is that chair? How close is the keyboard and how large is the moving range of the mouse? I need some technical data about the dimensions.
my knees / legs are the size of a soda bottle they dont get in the way
I am a 6 feet guy and regularly do my leg days at the gym, so I have quite big legs. I can't put both of my legs up like that, but I would often have one of them up exactly like her and I would do programming and gaming like that. If my legs were smaller and didn't have anything between them, I can easily see myself having my legs like that lol. Dunno how it is hard to fathom.
@@razerx100honestly, it's just the chair dimensions that throw me. Most every office/desk chair I've used just *doesn't have enough friggin space* to sit comfy like that.
I do it right now...and i am not a tall guy, but not extra short either ( 173 cm ). Its just more comfortable like that for me, sometimes both knees up sometimes one leg under me and on knee up, and there is a bonus of using your knee as an arm rest. I play games like that, infact when there is a boss fight in Poe2 i pull my knees up for better focus and concentration :D
@@dslily Right, that's why a soda bottle helpfully made an appearance for comparison
Me and hubby both watch you sometimes, coming form POE 1, don't let anything bring you down, we appreciate your videos and guides, thanks! :)
I've only uploaded a handful of PoE 2 videos and my experience has been nothing but positive. The community has been not only welcoming but incredibly helpful. I have viewers who are constantly providing me helpful advice or tips to improve my builds without being condescending or rude, which is wild compared to most games I play. All my first impressions from this scene have been 10/10.
Down be a clown and you wont get clowned on, seems pretty straight forward to me.
Hey its the thorns guy! I was literally having a conversations with a friend yesterday after we watched the drama unfold and I used you as an example of someone new to the scene who doesn't proclaim to be an expert, and I saw nothing but positive comments on your videos. It is really shameless that RGV blames the community for being gatekeepery and toxic when it is really just a reflection of the trash he chooses to put out there.
And the willpower of you to play thorns warrior up to t15 is just mind boggling to me, especially as a new player, well done sir
There are some absolute legends in the POE creator community. If you jump in with respect and don't roll in like Jerry Springer just bringing noise for clicks, I doubt you'd see any hate at all.
As a viewer/player only, I have to say that I'm a little disgruntled about how much harder it has become to get useful info now. There is just so much more noise on RUclips and the blog space now. Typical click farming stuff where the creator reads a post with basic info and regurgitates it. I'll try to search something like "how does [skill 1] interact with [skill 2]?" and the first several pages of Google are dozens of new generic BS sites that say, "a skill comes from gems...gems can be cut from uncut..." This was not the case just two months ago.
From my perspective, the popularity of the game has been 99.9% negative so far. It's no big deal. Just annoyances. I don't know if anyone else feels this way. Having said that, when new ppl jump on the scene and talk crap about ppl that have no need to really defend themselves, it still feels like a new really loud, rude, and obnoxious neighbor moved in and acts like you're the jerk when you don't embrace them. Life goes on, but to some degree it's hard not to think about how nice the community was before all the new ppl trampled onto the scene.
The community is ALSO made of toxic gatekeepers.. they just don't watch new streamers since they stick with the poe1 ones imo
Hello mate, is your username a Belgariad reference.?
@@ribbons69 Ye
It feels like you are mad about not getting enough attention and your streams are not getting the viewers you think you deserve. Your videos/streams include high quality and useful information however the way you present them doesnt meet the quality of the information (stream quality, weird niche backgrounds, personality etc) so I try to avoid watching your content unless there is nothing else to watch or another streamer watches/comments on your videos.
RageGaming should present their content through an autobiographical lens and develop themselves as characters which people have interest. I like the polish on their videos and I’m a sucker for the accent, but there is no reason to be producing guide-style content when they could just come out and say “How I got my divines” instead of “BEST currency farming strategy”. That way, suboptimal decisions are not being shoveled toward the masses as a suggestion from them, and instead they are just sharing their experience with us. That would be fine.
Look at how DM did it. Look at how Subtractem morphed from that into a noob guide when he eventually morphed into a subject matter expert, and still waffles back into “this is what I’m up to, use at your own risk” territory, which is FINE because he isn’t branding himself as an expert with his content, presentation, or titles.
The difference between “I take acetaminophen for aches and pains.” And “I recommend that you all take acetaminophen for aches and pains” is huge. The former, anyone can say with impunity. The latter is uninformed guidance to the masses which a medical professional wouldn’t risk, and which a TikTok mom would spew in an ignorant bliss. And you are like a medical professional seeing this garbage advice from the TikTok mom and saying to people “don’t take medical advice from TikTok moms like RageGaming”.
I just don’t get how they don’t get it.
Good news. Rage Gaming have adjusted their titles going forward.
Btw it's amazing the fact that when I started playing PoE 5 years ago your cam quality still the same, watching this on 1080p and 480p looks exactly the same LOL
i have not upgraded my mic or cam since then
Damn, you are so far into the future that you already started to play the 5th entry in the PoE series years ago and yet the cam quality hasn't changed... Unbelievable:O
It's like Tyler1 having the same dogshit mic since he started. There's something charming about consistency.
Atziri is a small little poopi princess in the shadow of our true queen
Came for the drama, stayed for the shins
Thanks for keeping it real Lily. I just started watching you since PoE2 early access. I much prefer to play games myself rather than watching others play games, but watched some streams over the holidays for Twitch drops. I appreciate your honesty and really enjoy seeing a fellow gaming nerd just being themself and sharing helpful hints along the way.
I'm Brazilian, and I'm telling you that male chauvinism here is no different. We admire you because you are a strong woman. Dealing with this kind of idiot is not easy. Lots of strength and patience, we are rooting for you!
lol
ds lily videos never disappoint with their incredible bitrate and image quality.
Please make the video wider... not wide enough. 0/10
The community is one of the reasons why I have played PoE for more than decade, and creators remaining true to themselves and not following dumb trends is a big part of it, so thank you for contributing to that.
Lily's thumbnails is the one of the best things to see whenever I search for new poe1/poe2 contents daily, plus the quality of the camera is *chef kiss*
Lilly has had a lot of bad takes, how about let the people judge what's misleading content. That's what the dislike button and comment sections are for. Like why even drum this up to this extent except for views? But here i am engaging into this garbage content. ✌️Yall.
Misinformation isn't a matter of opinion, it's a fact. You can't say something along the lines of 1 + 1 = 4 like Rage has done in a few of their videos and just go "oh well, it's up to the individual to judge if it's wrong or not" when they aim all of their content towards new players who CAN'T figure out that it's wrong.
This is the literal basis of the drama, if you present information that is just blatantly false and new players end up with a bricked build and can't progress and potentially leave the game as they likely haven't got enough gold nor the possibility to farm enough gold to respec within a reasonable timeframe, do you just go "lol too bad, you should've known"?
I know that it's like this in every other content sphere like D4 or Last Epoch, but PoE is very self-regulating and it's been calling out bullshit channels for years, and will continue to do so.
i discovered your channel looking for a solid galvanic shards build, and oh boy I'm happy i found you. Cheers. I hope too see more kn.. guides !
"egirl justifies thirst trapping with knees" lmao these chapters. I have to say that I wasn't a viewer until recently when I followed your build for Shockburst rounds/Galvanic shards on poe2 but you are definitely a peak poe content creator.
I specifically enjoy lily's streams and videos because of how she will call people out for being wrong or stupid and doesn't care about having rehearsed intros and outros. It's refreshing to see someone just do what they want and say what they want to say in an intentional and conscientious way.
You sound like someone that hasent touched grass in awhile
Her hypocrisy is crazy
I don't think they released that skill gem "introspection" yet
wasnt that a cluster notable
As being a somewhat-noob to POE2, I appreciate you for calling attention to other channels that are misrepresenting information. The last thing I want is to watch a video or guide of some sort only to later find out what I "learned" was actually just the creator making guesses or being flat out wrong about the info they presented. So, thanks!
You being somewhat new to PoE2 is her content to grab. She doesn't tell you why RageGaming atlas tree is bad, in the video that she's talking about. She tells you in ANOTHER Video to go watch someone else but doesn't link the video in question. She's done the same thing as the guy she is calling out. He gave a shout-out to Aeroplane ch without linking, she did the same to Fug's ch lol. So no... she isn't the iceing on the cake that makes it good.. shes doing the same thing for this situation. I'm only writing this because at this very moment I only care about this subject after just watching the video. I'll no longer care once I hit the Reply button.
This is so much better at 144p I have seen the light please tap in guys
"What do you mean this build is just blatantly wrong...? I'm blasting Act 1 Cruel."
What was the point of this video? thumbnails and knees? didnt see the need for this one, maybe im out of the loop.
thanks for finally addressing the drama i didn't know nor care about.
the mold is taking it's root in my veins
Is it bad that the only thing I was paying attention to, is on the right it looks like the pillar/bust along with the mic arm looks like it's holding the katana.
Wait what was this video about...Oh right knees.
In the future Lily videos will just be low quality pepe frog PNGs as her views go up.
began watching for the consistent SSF excellence , stayed for the production quality ! never change
''You need to touch grass''
- Said the lady sitting all day behind a screen reading simps, playing games and creating drama around other people creating content about games.
This is the tamest shit I've seen and you call it drama.
The irony couldn't be more lost on you, touch some grass. This is the most nothing burger shit ever.
8:15
Out of curiosity, if you report those kinds of DMs does Twitch do anything about it?
Highly unlikely, even if gets to the level of full on harassment. Unless you're one of the top thot streamers, then you can just ask twitch to ban anyone.
Not directly but if you block someone on Twitch that prevents them from watching your stream... on that account at least. Of course if they're parasocial enough they can make a new account or logout and watch you.
@@KhronicD Seems odd to me, but I suppose there's gotta be a reason Twitch wouldn't act on it? Fuck if I know.
@@YuYuYuna_ Neat. I guess if they logout they at least can't DM anyone, yeah?
@@moopuspoopus Honestly, with the way Twitch moderates their entire platform, there really aren't many actual rules anyone can reasonably be able to follow.
I've just watched this video in 144p on my 98" TV. What a time to be alive
Im just wondering is it intentional that the camera quality in the video is purposely look bad? XD
Agree with the new direction. I have no problem with anyone going after the money. Go get it gurl!!!!
6:10 Love this fact. Imagine freaking out that a woman is showing a tiny amount of skin LoL
Keep making them freak out over nothing Lily 😆
'I'm not an amputee. I have legs." I'm dying.
I never knew RUclipsrs had legs. I thought they were floating heads or torsos like in Futurama. Thanks for flashing them chicken legs, DS L, and setting the record straight. Unfortunately, having legs invalidates all your content. Also, my daughter sits with her knees up at the table every night until her mom yells at her for bad posture, it's not at all uncommon. Be careful about straining that sciatica or you may have regerts in your 40s.
Best outtro ive heard all year love the videos and thank you for no click bait titles gets very annoying after awhile when you see so much of it ya know
All power to you, lily. That got increasingly weirder, but I just appreciate your views and opinions on the game and the biz cause they feel genuine and direct
I click on flashy shiny bs thumbnails for the tittles not for the images.
So, what i do i read the tittle fast forward the video while i read the comments to see if the video is good or pure garbage.
guilty as charged the knees thumbnail got me
man i love clicking on a video titled poe2 drama and get hit with 13 minutes of yapping. subscribed.
Jesus Christ how did we get to knee discussion,😂😂 Anyway happy new year Lily ❤❤❤
Thank you for doing this community service. It is important to show others what a community expects of them.
9:38 for real, most PoE content creators seem SO much different than the usual content creator
its like content creation from 10-15 years in the past sometimes (i mean that in a good way though)
2:50 it's not like you have a choice anymore
if I were to not click on "click bait" or "flashy thumbnails" anymore, I might as well unsubscribe from 99% of creators on youtube
trying to call someone out for doing so doesn't really make sense
Your thumbnails/personality is entertaining and I enjoy your videos. Personal favorites are your flowcharts/rankings. Like that video you ranked foods based on several factors, including blast potential (lmao). Or the the flowcharts where you ask "are you a meta cuck?" ok then this is the build for you. Good stuff.
"We are a shining diamond in a sea of diahrea." Ds Lily - final day of 2024
Probably the best outro ive ever seen ngl.
I barely even notice thumbnails like 90% of the time which is a problem when sharing videos in some discords cuz they can be way too spicy LOL
I have a plugin for my browser that removes the flashy thumbnail and replaces it was a random shot from the video.
The ds lily situation is crazy
legit sitting here playing poe2 and "dms 18 h straigth, waking off to me eating tacobell" im dying omfg
The only drama i'm even aware of between creators in this space is Ghazzy and Quin. If they squashed their beef there would be a 0% drama rate.
I didn't know they had any beef. Whats going on between them?
I honestly thought this was a meme drama thing. I've only heard Quin talk about it once before and he didn't seem annoyed about it at all.
I'll grow my stream by setting up Salad Fingers style finger puppets and forcing them to watch, thank you very much
excuse me what the hell is the actual topic here
Girl
Pretty sure the topic is a reflection of previous videos, maybe the timestamps might help you out. Seeing as they are labeled and all with their topic
i don't think the term 'flashy' should be used, unless you literally mean flashy. just call clickbait what it is (either a thumbnail is clickbait, or it's not). the "omg pikachu" face that you sometimes use in a small amount of your thumbnails is just plain clickbait, but other than that, you don't engage with clickbait thumbnails hardly ever, which is why i even follow you. i would prefer you not doing clickbait full-stop, but whatever, you do you. i think that a CC's content should stand on its own, and if you need to clickbait viewers into watching your video, then you are just plain 'poopoo trash'
I dove hard into POE2 because like 12 years ago, I LOVED POE1. I promised myself I wouldn't watch any videos about POE2 because I KNEW I was going to run into 1 of 2 scenarios:
1. Videos showing me that everything I'm doing (and having fun with) is wrong and here's 5 trillion video hours showing me that.
2. Videos talking about video game drama. SIgh. It never goes away. It's like Peter Pan isn't one person. Peter Pan is the combination of hundreds of thousands of people. The boy who never grew up is hundreds of thousands of people.
The worst thing I can imagine is that people who actually care about finding community, find all this garbage and just get turned off of the whole thing.
6:30 ds L: "I don't sit like this because I want to. I have to sit like this. If I were to sit normally, my mapping skills will immediately be reduced by roughly 40%."
Is this an "end game" viable build ?
I followed up to the part she said: "you don't look at tailor swift" and I found myself looking at tailor swift... like... wtf how am I supposed to farm divines with this ?
"Insert outro here". Wiser words have never been spoken.
Just found your channel, love the content, keep up the awesome work .
i clicked on this cus of the thumbnail
Why do you keep saying these videos are actively ruining peoples experience? Have you any data for this or are you making up shit again like you did the trading section of the last video? 😂
I don't know why it's so hard for you to understand that most people, especially new people are not playing how you play, they don't need fully optimized builds to have fun.
Hope this helps 👍
Because it is actively ruining peoples experiences, why would you want to sit there later on and grind old stuff because your build cant clear your lvls content. As a new player, following a dogpile of a guide and having to do tedious tasks to refund your talents or grind for better gear for your build and such to then having to follow a better guide makes people quit, misleading and clickbait videos are toxic for the games they partake in. Especially if you have limited time, no one is ever gonna invest 20-50 hours on a character to then have it be practically useless. To then go like "Yeah, with my 4 hour playtime on the weekends I might just spend another 20-50 hours lvling a new one so I can not follow useless guides" thats absurd and not realistic
Tell me you don't play this genre without telling me you do lmao, dogpile builds and guides might work in d4 cuz its such a easy game in comparison. Where respec does not take even 2 seconds to get or do. Its uber casual, this game is not. There is a reason a lot of people look for guides when the talent trees and passives equal the amount of a star chart, why you might ask? Because they don't want to invest a lot of time to understand it, majority don't care and wont. Its how its always gonna be, taking the easy way. But when the easy way is guides or builds that ruin your experience, why would anyone play touch the game again? Oh and most people don't optimise their builds, or want to. But even then, they don't want to feel like they cant do anything now do they?
I don't know why its so hard for you to understand that most people aren't gonna invest a lot of time, be disappointed and still keep going
Hope this helps👍
@idkpengi Doesn't help and I didn't read it because you're first line tells me you didn't read mine. Show me evidence where his videos have hurt new players, you can't.
Sorry about that now fella 👍
@@varianngaming9403 Nice ragebaiter, go enjoy being a npc buddy
@@varianngaming9403 Oh yeah, if youre on the "prove me this, prove me that" then prove that he has helped anyone. Give me hard evidence that whoever "his" videos have actually helped anyone, where are those? Oh wait you cant, cuz its misleading
@idkpengi Nice reply, if you're unable to answer my question don't bother replying. See ya.
I really don't care about click-baity titles or click-baity thumbnails. but tbh there is not really a difference to me.... don't judge a book by its cover. check out the video / creator and decide for yourself if you like the content despite the algorithm-pleasing stuff 👍😁
This video reminds me of watching game cutscenes in the 90s.
I'm a 93 kilograms 38 years old man, sometimes I also sit with my knees up.
I'm not upset by any of the drama. If anything I'm appreciative for it because as a week old content creator, I now understand that I need to make sure I keep any click bait toned down because that shit is everywhere. So thank you. I had no idea that people hated it to this extent, and I see there's so many people who have been burned by click bait guides only to lose all their gold to re-speccing and getting frustrated.
Could you make a video about atlas tree for farming currency ? The only one I can find is the bad tree from RageGaming.
As an enlightened member of the silent minority, I just use an extension called clickbait remover and I don't see thumbnails at all.
I did see the legs from the drama tho. Good clickbait.
real gamers use the mrbeast plugin to replace every face with mrbeast
I just have to say it I watched Rage Gaming's videos when playing Lies of P and liked them but, the second I saw him uploading poe 2 videos I knew they would be a waste of my time to watch.
Make of that what you will
did u take down the atlas skill tree video i cant find it maybe im braindead
The thing about thumbnails, they can be flashy and colorful, but I hate when they are clickbait. I don't care if I'm the 1% who cares, but I'm not gonna sit and shut up about it just because my opinion doesn't matter. If it's not clickbait, then sure. Clickbait means in this case, if the thumbnail has nothing to do with what the video is about.
“Click on my knees peasants!!” ❤
this must be how mfs feel when they are inside the drowned orb the hags spawn in act 3
what is soft core? can someone explain?
softcore = standard right now, if you die your character stays and you dont lose any items, hardcore = your character dies and it's gone (technically goes to standard, so right now in beta it's not really a penalty if you want to continue playing ur character) making you lose items and hours of effort for masochists, but typically hardcore players only play on the hardcore league so a character being sent to standard is pretty much perma death to them.
It's when you take a avocado pit and hide inside an ice cream scoop.
@@dslily oh very strange namming. I understand the hardcore, and that the char is usually going to standard leauge after it dies but hearing softcore i thought about something like hardcore but you can die twice? XD IDK why don't people just call its standard or "normal" softcore just sounds wierd xD
@@GolompReformed The reasoning for that is because in PoE 1 (and will the be case for PoE 2) there are huge content updates every 3 months called "leagues" which are temporary leagues lasting 3 months and have a fresh economy reset meaning everyone starts from lvl 1. Pretty much 99% of the playerbase plays in them and so standard is really just a meme way to play the game. Not that you can't do it or should feel bad about playing on Standard, but most people find Standard not interesting enough to continue playing. Hell most people who play the "leagues" only play for the first month at most.
So "Softcore" is called that because dying has no permanent punishment and is more chill aka a "softer" way to play the game. You'll also hear people refer to "Softcore" as "Softcore Trade League" because most people who play Softcore do so because they want to play more crazy insane high DPS builds, not care about dying and farm tons of currency selling valuable items and other things in the economy. A lot or most HC players play SSF or "Solo Self Found" meaning they cannot trade to other players and all the items they get have to be earned from their own gameplay.
You definitely lost this audience member, came in for PoE news and recaps, now my feed is bombarded with stupid drama bs I don't care about -.-
pretty cool that you slotted in overwhelming presence for this video - what support gems you running?
Font of Rage, Brutality, Execute, Eternal Flame, Lacerate, Ruthless
i agree that one thing is doing a flashy thumbnail to grabs people attention and another is just doing clickbaits for RMT sites, the latter is dishonorable. Remember that the first ones are watching, exile!
i like how your streaming setup looks like a corner of osrs varrock