A New Taycan-Beater? | 2023 Kia EV6 GT First Drive
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- The 2023 Kia EV6 GT (not to be confused with the 320-horsepower GT-Line) is the latest vehicle to join the exclusive club of cars that get to 60 mph in less than 3.5 seconds. That's right, a Kia can keep up with the likes of the fastest electric AND gas vehicles today. Bonus points for the fact that it can stay consistently fast along a wider range of battery charge levels than all other electric competitors. Demerits? Range and interior comfort take a good bit of a hit. Do these pros outweigh the cons? Here are my initial thoughts from my first drive.
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0:00 Introduction
0:34 Front End Design
1:03 Comparisons
2:06 Rear End Design
2:29 Wheels
3:13 Powertrain
5:01 Charging & Range
6:26 Interior Walkaround
11:30 Driving Impressions
20:52 On the Track
24:49 Pricing & Availability
25:20 Competition
27:01 Consistency
28:44 Closing 
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Motor trend got 3.2s on 0-60 and 11.4 - 121mph in 1/4 miles. Impressive number KIA!
I am skeptical of that. I'd like to see video evidence that it can run an 11.4 quarter mile. If that is accurate then the Kia EV6 GT is faster than a Tesla Model 3 Performance and about as fast as a C8 Corvette.
@@haircafekevin I have no problems believing MT as they’re good about testing protocols and procedures.
That is truly neck breaking….wow!
@@badimpulses17 is that what you will be your deciding factor to spend 55K+? I used to think like that when I was in my 20s. I can't remember any of those females that did notice my cars back then.
@@mr.c6674bro it’s a hatchback it’s not designed to pick up girls this is just a fun car 😂
On the climate/media control LCD if you press and hold the icon that switches modes you can set a default screen so that it will switch back after a few seconds and always be there when you start the vehicle. This was a nice find and made it a less confusing for myself.
A smart solution, but they should find a way to make it more discoverable by the average user.
This is probably the twin of what we'll see in the Ioniq 5 N and TOTALLY here for it 😄. Can't wait to see this performance with the Hyundai blue and N body kit
Just got mine this weekend. The acceleration is gut-wrenching.
I love it
Weirdly none of the numbers you quoted when talking about the powertrain are reflected in the specs panel you placed on screen.
Great review! I am in Sweden and own one since a few weeks back. It really is an amazing car! It replaced my GT Line awd, and I am currently driving it on the same 19" 235 winter tires I had on that. Too my great surprise the range is about the same when it matters the most, i.e. on longer trips along faster roads. I think one reason is that only the rear motor is engaged when adaptive cruise control is active, even if you are in Sport+ mode. I suspect consumption to be different once I put on the 21" 255 tires though, but the car itself seems almost as effective. On shorter trips around town range is shorter even when using the same tires, but then it does not matter.
I think automakers are focusing way too much on "high performance" EVs. I really want to see more high efficiency EVs, sort of like Prius of EVs. Smaller battery (and lighter weight), but with longer range.
If you hold the button to toggle between sound controls and HVAC control for about 5-10s, you get a settings screen. You can set the control screw to automatically return to either Sound or HVAC screen after a few seconds if no button is depressed. Mine is set to always returns to the climate. And if I need the sound controls I know to press the toggle, make a change, and then it goes back to HVAC.
Hmmm. The printed motor and battery specs at 3:20 do not match what Alex is uttering. New editor?
I traded my BMW i8 for the GT line EV6. And Im totally happy with it. I love the look and design. The fit and finish. The charging has been perfect at home and at the 350kw Eletrictrify america chargers
Terrific review as usual….always the best on the net. Thanks.
8:33 I'm still waiting for my EV6 order to be filled, but I've read that you can set a default mode for the nav/climate switch by long-pressing on the one you'd like; then it'll always switch back to that default mode a few seconds after your last input.
Great review, thank you for getting into the nitty gritty on things like SOC vs performance, etc.
You mention limited headroom. Yes it has less headroom than if it did not have a sunroof. however, the GT has MUCH more headroom than the GT-Line. The 6 way manual front seats allow you to sit much lower in the car than the powered seats in the GT-Line. I found I had a good 2" of headroom and I am 6'4".
WIDER TIRES: On my GTLine I was able to put some 20*9.5 ET35 wheels on it with 275/40R20 tires with no clearance or rubbing issues. Those tires woke up the handling of the GTLine. I would believe that 275's could fit on the GT as well, likely even on the stock wheels since I believe they are a 9" wide wheel.
I was wondering how you could so calmly recite those driving impressions while you were out there on the track speeding along with the other GTs until I looked more closely at your inserted head shot in that footage and noticed that you were actually driving in normal Las Vegas "stroad" traffic while doing that bit.😉
I have been waiting to see the reviews on the EV6 to confirm my choice. On the waiting list 🤞🤞. Awesome value too.
Really like how you break out the mileage for City/Hwy. While I want this thing, just doesn't have the range I would need.
Great video - what video editing tool do you use to get the Picture in Picture the way you did in this video?
First 💪🏾💙 love your videos and all of the data you provide. Kia has made an absolute all around amazing vehicle
I hate the new EV bill for making the $7500 tax credit unavailable for EV6!
I’d be curious to hear about your feelings on acceleration at freeway speeds. The only performance complaint I have about my Ioniq5 AWD is that the highway and passing acceleration is just ok. It pulls hard from a stop, harder than a Model 3 LR and about as hard as a Model 3 Performance (I know from experience) but the power trails off fairly sharply after about 40mph. I’m guessing that, based off the high HP numbers compared to the torque that it pulls much harder at high speeds.
The egmp batteries have a really low internal resistance. Like, incredibly low. That’s how they can charge at 230kw for so long without auto-igniting from heat. The low resistance also means there is less voltage sag when there is a huge load on them, so they don’t have to limit the power as drastically as the battery discharges. Personally, I think the most impressive thing about the egmp cars is the battery tech. It’s a high performance battery that almost seems out of place in a car that’s less than $100k.
I noticed the same driving a GT-Line the other day. I was trying to talk myself out a GT, but I prefer strong acceleration at high speeds too, because I drive two lane roadways and sometimes need to pass quickly. Acceleration at highway speeds in the GT-Line is merely adequate.
Go watch EV6 on German Autobahn videos.
Yes I noticed the lack of punch at higher speeds in some other evs test drives as well. The Polestar 2 for example is a pretty quick car put on the highway it had less than my Santa Cruz with a 4 banger turbo. The EV6 GT on the other hand pulls really strongly at higher speeds. Even if you're not a stop light racer it's so nice to have that extra power for passing or changing lanes. Just hit the little GT button on the steering wheel and you have whatever you need.
I liked my EV 6 GT line rather limited test drive but I absolutely loved the GT and is now the only one I would buy. I would rarely use a fast charger anyway so 200 miles would work for me. the power was not overwhelming but quite manageable. I even parked it back in the lot in GT mode just to see how it would be no problem and also the ride was surprisingly good. I I would have a professional work on those sport seats to make it better for everyday driving that's my only complaint. The current going price in my area is about $64600. thanks for another great review.
I've never understood the big deal with 0 to 60 in xyz seconds.
Range is not good but charging times are very fast, so that helps overlook the range. Being sick fast will help you forget about range. Just charge frequently.
The non-gt ones get a ton more range thankfully
wait list started like 2 months ago, RIP to anyone just seeing this on launch
Kia is coming out with a bunch of 🔥🔥🔥can I get an Ioniq 6 GT ? I'm not fond of this car's look!
This KIA is head and shoulders above all the competition. I want one!
Yes, because their EV competition is Hyundai, Tesla, Chevy, Nissan Leaf and maybe the Toyota BZ EV. Don’t confuse 0 to 60 speed with build quality because you will be VERY disappointed. This GT has so much injected and hard plastic surfaces it will be rattling you like crazy in a year.
@@reb1225 I had my gt line for a year no rattling at all so stop
@@bigdi77 Dude, it’s a KIA so chill. It is the Hyundai Group's affordable line. So everyone expects it to be filled with hard and soft plastic interior parts that tend to squeak and rattle after a while. It is what it is. So you STOP.
@@reb1225 say what you want I own the car once again no rattles even my stinger didn’t have rattles so you stop
@@reb1225 better yet show proof that the ev6 have rattles seeing you like to make stuff up
Fantastic car until I heard the range. Under 200 miles? That's a deal killer.
It's about 65% as efficient as my Chevy Bolt so that gives some perspective on why the range is low. Wide sticky tires and powerful motors make the car use far more power per mile. It's obviously not designed to be the most efficient version. ICE sports cars are inefficient as well.
@@TheGerm24 "ICE sports cars are inefficient as well." Great point. Any ICE vehicle that you drive that goes 0 to 60 in 3 seconds will have "range" issues as well! Now it's up to you if you want to replace that range with 11 cents per KWH or $5.00 a gallon.
Thanks for your as usual great reviews. Markup will be insanely high though.
Looks like a nice big hatch back to me. Hope they can make a nice sedan out of this and that would get my interest for sure, just like Hyundai has.
Thank you for your continued delivery of quality content Alex.
Cheers!
M
Why aren't the November Navigation software updates for the 2022 EV6 available for the 2023. After talking to a KIA they said I'd
have to wait till spring. I've got a new car and cain't get the latest updates!
Does it have wireless Apple CarPlay/Android Auto? Other EV6s don't and it's really annoying. The interior materials and build quality seems about the same as the other EV6, which while fine, isn't at the same level as competitors.
Did we get the numbers backwards? 308hp plus 255hp is 563hp?
With EV's I wish there would be more focus on range instead of 0 to 60. Lucid destroys everyone in that regard.
Batteries are expensive. Increasing range requires more battery and better aero. Most people aren't driving 4 hours without stopping. Over 250 miles is reasonable to keep costs down. This one is obviously less because of the wheels and tires.
EV battery technology is designed around the average (over 70%) US drivers that drive 40 to 50 miles per day or about 15,000 miles per year. If you really calculate how many miles you actually drive in one day and the fact that you can charge at home anytime you want, range is NO ISSUE when it comes to driving an EV.
Thanks for the 0 to 60 information. I am been trying to tell. People on youtube I can easily pull 3.3 to 60
Don't need one but it is awesome.
Love your channel. I have been waiting for this car. I drive a Ram Laramie 80 miles round trip everyday and was starting to feel the pinch with gas. However i don’t understand why KIA chose to have manual seats. I just can’t pay over $60k for a car in this century without memory or cooled seats. Am i crazy? Did KIA talk about this decision at the event in Vegas? It’s just crazy to me.
from what i have heard others say, heated and memory controlled power seats add tens of pounds in total. thus, their assumption is it was a weight AND cost cutting measure. otherwise price would have also went up and they had goals to keep it as cheap and affordable as possible.
If you use this vehicle in the ECO mode, will it get a range of 300? I like to play too, but 95% of the time I'm in the economy mode. Most people like to see and probably will use the 3.4 0-60 mph speed on ocassion - you should highlight this aspect too.
The Tesla Model Y Performance is available as a 5 seat version only. 7 Seats are only available in the Long Range version, which is slower than the EV6 GT AND more expensive.
@Bowie You say that as if it is a good thing LOL
Is there a way to tell it to just use one of the two motors for greater efficiency? I get that the vehicle still weighs more, but if you could just use the front motor and disconnect the rear motor, maybe it would have more range...?
It has eco mode, which would help. But it's likely the wheel and tire combo killing the range.
@@jghall00 Yup, I agree. I come from an era where 15" wheels (maybe 16 but not very often) were the common size. I'd prefer that this gigantic wheel craze would stop (roads where I live would have you at the wheel/tire shop more often than I'd like.)
Can you increase range if using eco mode? This car seems like a slam dunk performance wise til u see the range.
How often do you drive 200 miles a day? 200 miles a week? Keep in mind 200 miles a day is about 70,000 miles a year. Most people drive 30 to 40 miles a day (15,000 a year) which means you would need to charge this EV at home about 2 times per week at about 11 cent per KWH or about $65 dollars a month. If you owned a SUPER car in this same performance range, then you would likely have to fuel it every couple days at $5.00 a gallon for preminun fuel at about $700 a month. EV Range is only an issue to "non" EV owners.
Here comes Kia with value and speed. Let’s get more Ev competition. These EVs are not inexpensive.
Easily the best mobile bacon-microwaving platform in it's segment!
The range replenishment rate shouldn’t be under rated. Those faster recharge times allow for less battery weight to make any road trip manageable. With the weight never being on the chassis allows for more range and better damper control. KIA seems to have struck a good balance with current technology and a sporty ride.
Great power coming out of KIA but that range is no good. If someone is driving a lot in city only, that's great but close to 300miles would have been icing on the cake! overall still a great option for city folks.
Another uniformed non-EV owner. EV battery technology is designed around the average (over 70%) US driver that drives 40 to 50 miles per day or about 15,000 miles per year and not just CITY driving. If you are a long haul truck driver, or if you have to fill up your car with gas each time you drive it, or you drive more than the average, you are in the remaining 30% and should probably stick to ICE vehicles. If you are filling up yor ICE vehicle with gas once a week, then you will likely only need to charge your EV twice a week (at home!). Just keep in mind, that if you daily drive an ICE vehicle with this type of speed/performance will you spend mulitple days a week at the gas station...or in this situation, charge a couple days a week at home.
Sounds like this becomes a solid competitor to Audi RS3 you reviewed a while ago!
LOL! A Kia is NEVER a competitor to an Audi. Dude really.
They are not even the same class car.
@@reb1225Check out the What Car? video. They drag raced the EV6 GT against the RS3. The Kia destroyed the Audi, it wasn’t even close.
@@michaelc2254 Are you seriously trying to rationalize a KIA purchase over an Audi based on drag racing or 0 to 60 times? Your thought process is tantamount to that of a 16 y/o. Yeah, great post Mate!
@@reb1225 Have you driven the Kia or even been in one? Didn’t think so.
The wider tires are a good idea.
Is this better sorted than the topdog Genesis GV60?
It seems like it's definitely more well sorted out especially when pushing it at speed. It just seems like the gv60 doesn't know what it wants to be.
OK a year late to the party, but..Tracy Chapman - Fast Car on the media display...coincidence or on purpose for the EV6 GT? Slick (in a good way) if on purpose!
Good eye, I'll let you decide if it was intentional. -Travis
Just cannot believe people find this car attractive visually.
how long do these Kias last? Kias have really bad longevity for their ICE cars, but is it the same with their electric ones?
These should be useable for many many years to come
Which Kia had bad longevity? 1990's?
Not all KIAs have long term reliably problems. Only a few models with a particular engine made in America. The Telluride is very reliable and a best seller. EVs are mechanically way simpler than ICE cars so should be more reliable mechanically. But EVs have very complex software so software glitches that can stall the EV can happen, cough GM Hummer EV, cough. So far software problems for EV6 seems to be minimal.
I'm getting a little old and creaky. I'd love to see more EVs with a little higher step in height. I know I know aerodynamics
I have a Chevy Bolt and step in is amazing on it. It's low slung but the battery is tall enough that step in itself is fantastic
Its fast charging is awful (only 55kwh) but it's perfect for a second vehicle
Dealers will definitely mark up over msrp.
Looking to upgrade from my Stinger. The seats are a deal breaker for me. No power or ventilation? I live in Phoenix. Not showing up yo meetings with summer swamp ass.
I think Kia should make an EV6 just with that powerful rear wheel motor. This way a lighter car, pure rear wheel fun and a much bigger frunk.
Whatever the Kia's Ioniq 6 N is gonna be: it'll be BONKERS
Let's be realistic: the ADM on this from KIA dealers is gonna be nuts. No way anyone is walking in and getting one of these for $61k MSRP. Is this a great car at $80k? That's probably where it is going to sell at with such low volumes and the price points of its competitors. I really wish Alex would include in his reviews a dose of realism about what a car like this will really be offered for in the market.
maybe this was true a month ago. no more. its feb 2023 and there are MULTIPLE dealers nationwide offering it at a discount off MSRP.
8:45 what? How often do you adjust the climate!? I set the climate temp in my car a year ago. 70 degrees. I almost never touch it. If it’s exceptionally warmer than I expected I may bump the temperature a little bit, but generally, that’s the temperature I want. I don’t find on different days of the week I was different temperatures.
Yes. This is different. And this is a little weird.
But, let’s be honest. How often do you set a specific temperature that you want the car to be at, and then decide you want a different temperature?
If it’s really cold, I typically supplement with heated seats. Still not changing the car temperature.
Living in a colder area, I frequently change my climate controls from front windshield to body and back. I also adjust the temp a bit since I have it on full blast when I start the car but that gets too hot once I get going so it needs adjustments. Climate controls shouldn't be a touch screen at all, takes too much concentration to adjust things
I adjust mine at least twice a day. I'm cold in the morning and I want it warmer. In the evening my metabolism is higher and I want it cooler. If I'm in the car all day there are additional adjustments late morning, mid-afternoon, and 12 hours offset from each of those.
I hear you folks. If the car automatically adjusts to the temperature you want ….
Is that temperature the right one? Are you just being impatient and blasting the heat (or whatever) for a moment then letting it cool?
Genuinely, I don’t really change the temperature in my house much. It stays within a given range. That feels like exactly what the car does. The temperature it’s been set to is still what it’s going to set things too.
When I was a teenager (before cars had auto climate control … I’m sure everyone can relate). I noticed people would get in the car and slam the slider all the way cold or all the way hot and turn it on … then later flip it in the other direction.
Rather than trying to get to the “right” temperature they’re just saying … make it warmer then make or colder.
With actual climate control that doesn’t need to be a thing. If it’s 60 degrees in the car and it’s set to 72 it kicks on an amount. If the next time you get in the car it’s 30 degrees in the car and it’s set to 72 the car will spit out more heat trying to warm up the car faster.
The car already does the thing we did with our dumb temperature controls.
I think heated seats and steering wheels and ventilated seats will be (or is) the impatient way to get to temp faster while the climate system will adjust ambient temperature as it sees fit and to whatever temp you’ve set.
Can I have it in HOT METALIC BABY PINK please!!!
As a former owner of a Ford Mustang Mach-E, when he says this is better, that carries a lotta weight
1.5 hoots
Kia keeps kicking hard and winning . Japan 🇯🇵 in fear
This is a great car, but the range is disappointing. I can’t see someone spending around 60 K for a car that gets less than 200 miles per charge.
Being it’ll likely be purchased as a 2nd or 3rd car for the household, I can see every single one picked up.
It looks like the new Toyota Prius
Mach-E GT looks better and has more range than the EV6 GT. Ford completely overhyped the performance of the Mach-E GT and it's a total letdown. It was supposed to compete directly with the Model Y Performance but it falls short in every metric. The Kia EV6 GT has amazing performance stats and makes the Model Y Performance look lame.
Biggest weakness of the Kia is the range. 200 miles of EPA range makes it challenging to take the EV6 into more remote places for camping or skiing unless there's charging at the destination.
Kia is the company Tesla should be worried about.
I think I would get the regular GT-Line AWD. My Tesla Model 3 Performance is slightly faster than this Kia, but after a while the novelty wears off and it doesn’t feel quite as fast. I have to drive my wife’s SUV to recalibrate my sense of acceleration. 😂
Really don't care how fast it is, I would take the Ionic 5 over this car every day. Better looking, better design and better utility, and more than fast enough. 180 mile range is idiotic. In really cold weather that translates to 120 or so. BTW with Mercedes EVs you get no power limitation till around 40% state of charge.
What difference is there in utility? Aren’t they near identical other than surface sheet metal?
@ALMX5DP In fact they are very different
The Ionic 5 is more spacious in every dimension. The EV 6 swoopy design makes for a much smaller interior and less cargo space.
@@Wised1000 Range figures for the EV6 GT is 206.
My test drive of the ionic 5 did not make me want to sell my Santa Cruz. The Kia EV 6 GT did.
Car lost me at the lime green accents. Hard to make that work
Lost me at 200 mile range….
@@jayroc5807 that to. Terrible range for the what we have today. Sub 200 range? Pathetic regardless of performance
There are a number of interior downgrades. No power seats?! 🤦♂️
“Fast Car” 😂 Nice one
Is it necessary to disparage other EVs to review this one? We get it, you like this one and not the Mach-E, etc.
a review is literally 100% of the time a review of features that have direct comparisons to other cars in the class so that prospective owners can make up their minds. its not accurate to call a remark disparaging for pointing out the pros and cons of different cars in relation to one another.
its crazy how poorly the mache aged....
How so? Mach-E has more room inside, far more range, nearly the same 0-60, and more storage space. Different strokes for different folks.
@@JonathanEzorand they have power front seats. Some people have a over the top focus on DCFC speeds. You don’t want it to be dog slow, you want it not to be too fast so you can eat at a relaxed pace, stretch legs and bathroom breaks. In addition the faster you charge the more wear on the battery it is (LI-ion)
Agree and OTA updates and the looks….sorry Kia EV6 looks like bad!
Not good at winter, I have one Gt,
I'm disappointed.
Range is too short for long trips over 600 miles. Charges fast but figure 30 minute stop minimum x 3. So at least 1.5 extra hours. No thanks.
Still has to use public charging during road trips. This is Tesla’s big advantage. Being a few tenths faster is of no consequence. How much over MSRP will you have to pay? And the range……
No thanks.
Likely cheaper than Model Y Performance.
@@vincenty747 “Likely”? You’re forgetting the dealer market adjustment fee.
Road trip is once in a while kinda thing so unless you go on loads of road trip it isn’t too much of an issue
The range is bad but this is the power model, the non gt model has good range. Honestly this model is not appealing to the vast majority of buyer.
Over msrp is something that these guys really need to improve I do agree
Its nice until...that rear end....so ugly
I don't know if we should be excited or not about these kind of "figures".
It shows how heavily combustion-minded (or even low-minded) we are when talking about what it should've been the pinnacle of efficiency in automotive industry and how, in Tesla's facilities engineer teams won most argues over the design ones.
In every day usage, no one cares about if a car beats Taycan's 0-62mph. Even when trying to overtake a truck, 90% of the EVs on the global market do it very well, very quick compared to their ICE counterparts.
Every time I see these uninspiring comparisons I just ask myself if people like you, Alex, should not bash the manufacturer for coming up with such useless package of an "electric car" that is not restricted for only tracks, just like NASCAR cars are.
this just shows how there is a market with so many options; for people like you, the EV6 GT is not for you. for people like me, we are so so happy Kia made this. I am a Kia EV6 Wind AWD w/ tech package owner. cant wait to upgrade. i am GLAD there is so much choice on the market. you go and buy your bland boring efficient car. I’ll take the car that brings me joy every time i get in and feel the adrenaline rush.
0-60 means very little for performance.
impressive little toy. thats what these evs really are tho, toys.
Quicker but not faster. Trust me the Tycan will get you more woman than the KIA.
Another model with highly limited availability that just exists for marketing, not for customers. I am tired of manufacturers doing this.