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“Please resist the urge to point out that this is the F-4E.” Ok, what about the urge to point out most the ships in the fleet are Iowa class battleships?
Had to jump back when I saw the 59 on the island. CV-59 USS Forrestal. Man, so awesome seeing you land on that. Served with the Marine detachment on her from 86-88. Really loved that time of my life.
Don't you mean USS FORRESTFIRE? ;) Man, Ida loved to serve on a carrier... even as a babysitter... er, Marine. Beats the steamy barracks I had in GA, NC and FL. Fmr Army Ranger here (87-93)... thank YOU for your sacrifice, brother!
I served on USS Independence CV-62, also a Forrestal Class CV, in Japan from 93-97. It was the only carrier I served on in my 28 years as my Rate/NECs kept me in the FFG/DDG world the rest of the time. Indy was by far the noisiest, hottest, dirtiest, smelliest tour of my career, but I wouldn't trade it for the world.
@@ReflectedSimulations that's really interesting to know, I'm going to start making a habit of turning it off, lets see I can get some sparrow kills now.
@@GrowlingSidewinder thanks for the response. In general though, I really enjoy scenario based missions. Start on the ground, go through a cold start, scramble and destroy 😃
dcs continues to amaze me. back in the early 90s, someone wrote a flight sim on dec workstations. It was all wireframe. even then, after 5pm, Allen and me would go head to head. It was good enough to get vertigo at times :).
The U.S. rules of engagement in Vietnam required *visual* ID because IFF was unreliable and there had been some friendly fire incidents early on. That often put the Phantoms of parameters for Sparrow missile shots.
There was also a lot of aircraft, especially south vietnamese, that might not have IFF transponders. Even in Desert Storm IFF was difficult. Funny thing about the Sparrow tho is, as much as the missiles had a lot of issues, Phantoms still killed about as much Migs with sparrows as with sidewinders.
I find sparrows (especially earlier variants) rarely work when fighting on the deck. I almost prefer to lead with sparrows when I have a better chance of getting a head on shot from higher altitudes and loot goblin my sidewinders away until I get into closer quarters. Awesome video!
They also seem quite good in hit and run attacks. Early sparrows dont got much range, but you can almost use them like all aspect sidewinders, which is a huge advantage against Migs with rear aspect heaters. In a head on attack, they cant fight back.
Don't really think that carrier group needs any defending with all four Iowa class battleships that were ever built escorting it. lol! (This is a joke)
From what I could tell, there were at least 7, so throw in the Illinois and Kentucky as well as several fictional ones. Then again, by this point in history, the Iowa’s didn’t have any area air defense capability and they never had any ASW ability so…
@@lightspeedvictory : The North Vietnamese had a total of 4 IL-28 'Beagle' twin engine bombers (Soviet equivalent of the Canberra bomber). An Iowa's WW2 era AA guns would have been sufficient against them.
Really liked this one. Nice to see a big furball above the carrier group. Also cool to see where you were merged with 2 bandits and how your wingman affects the dog fight. Would be cool to see more merges where each guy has a wingman.
@@GrowlingSidewinder funny thing is Naval variant would have better radar which would make Sparrows much more useful also i have to wonder which missiles are being used here - the F-4 module has access to Sidewinders from B up to M variant which is humongous spread in capability and same can be sayd for Sparrows which range from 7E through 7E2 up to 7M - maybe it would be a good idea to name the loadout being used :)
I love the E! I worked on that beautiful brick. I can honestly say I don’t recall any of our 100+ WW’s taking off without a centerline. It needed the 600 gallons to get in the air.
FWIW, you helped the fleet even though you weren't the one to shoot down that last plane. You essentially kept him busy enough so he couldn't get a shot on the fleet, and distracted him enough to allow the ships to shoot him down. Still a great job in my book!!
By the way I've been enjoying the Thunderbirds this fourth of July and the F35 lightning 2. Aka Fat Amy. Usually we get the Blue Angels but this year we got the Birds back I haven't seen them in a couple years. One of the advantages of living within a mile of a National Guard base and Airport.
I LOVE the F4 Phantom. I really wish hollywood would do a movie about Operation BOLO/General(at the time of Operation BOLO I believe he was a Colonel)Robin Olds. Robin Olds is a LEGEND in the Air Force/Army Air Corps!!!!
gs: "i've never done a carrier landing before, with the f-4, so y'know, we'll see how this goes. i might just smoke the back of the carrier, [nervous laugh], we'll see how this plays out" also gs: does a picture perfect landing
I guess I'll be Captain Obvious and point out that there wouldn't be that many Iowa class battleships in that battle group during the Vietnam era. Now give me three cheers for the F-4J Phantom!
the thing is when F-4J was flying MiGs kinda didnt have flares ... by the time Soviets started putting countermeasures on the MiGs F-4Js were mostly replaced by F-14s and/or upgraded to F-4S standard and Boeing was already prototyping the "SuperPhantom"
2:00 - not only was the AIM7 terrible, but in Vietnam IFF sucked worse. The rules of engagement forced visual id to avoid friendly fire driving the AIM9 to be the missile of choice. Even the AIM9 had issues. Remember, at the time the current doctrine in the DoD was guns were obsolete. Funny how reality gets in the way of doctrine and people who don't fly.
If you could learn the sparrow and make a tutorial about its potential usage in a dogfight you’d be helping a ton of people out. I’ve played around with it and have gotten to the point where (single player vs. various aircraft) I can use it pretty much exclusively as a dogfight missile. If you wanna mess around with it I’d be happy and excited to try it out in a PvP testbed.
11:03 just a couple of seconds longer and you'd have been under him and would have pointed the nose up getting a better radar return and aiding the Sparrow in avoiding the water. "We'll see how this plays out..." and the proceeds to snag the 3 wire.😂
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Your lead-ins with a jet profile is so Great. Screensaver Gold! Thanks, GS !
What happened to the links where we can download this awesome missions? I absolutely loved that
do you still need DCS open beta to run mods?
NGAD vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx
SU-57 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx
SU-47 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx
SU-47 vs SU-57, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx
SU-47 vs NGAD, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx
Yo GS. Love the content and your presentation. My request is a PVP F5 v F4 fox-1 dog fight.
“Please resist the urge to point out that this is the F-4E.” Ok, what about the urge to point out most the ships in the fleet are Iowa class battleships?
Looool also resist that urge. There are limitations in the simulation.
Nice
The New Jersey was absolutely used in Vietnam.
US Navy if it was still cool
@@ifly135 Yes but there were only 4 Iowas, and I count 6 in this fleet. Perhaps this simulation is assuming Illinois and Kentucky were finished
Had to jump back when I saw the 59 on the island. CV-59 USS Forrestal. Man, so awesome seeing you land on that. Served with the Marine detachment on her from 86-88. Really loved that time of my life.
Don't you mean USS FORRESTFIRE? ;)
Man, Ida loved to serve on a carrier... even as a babysitter... er, Marine. Beats the steamy barracks I had in GA, NC and FL.
Fmr Army Ranger here (87-93)... thank YOU for your sacrifice, brother!
I served on USS Independence CV-62, also a Forrestal Class CV, in Japan from 93-97. It was the only carrier I served on in my 28 years as my Rate/NECs kept me in the FFG/DDG world the rest of the time. Indy was by far the noisiest, hottest, dirtiest, smelliest tour of my career, but I wouldn't trade it for the world.
Looked like a Number 3 cable arrest to me at the end. Bravo-Zulu
Nice landing!. You even managed to get the 3-wire.
9:56 I usually just turn off interlock and forget about the shoot cue and I've gotten a few kills that way
Interesting I thought that would always result in a wasted missile. I’ll give it a try.
@@GrowlingSidewinder It's part of the fence in checklist in the F-4J manual, I mean to turn it off
@@ReflectedSimulations that's really interesting to know, I'm going to start making a habit of turning it off, lets see I can get some sparrow kills now.
thank you both of you for teaching me something new.
@@GrowlingSidewinder don't forget, you'll still need to count the potatoes :)
Awesome video. I would love to see this type of scenario start on the ship.
Unfortunately not possible due to the f4e not being carrier capable.
@@GrowlingSidewinder thanks for the response. In general though, I really enjoy scenario based missions. Start on the ground, go through a cold start, scramble and destroy 😃
@@GrowlingSidewinder You could park on the rear deck, brakes on, max throttle & release and see what happens
dcs continues to amaze me. back in the early 90s, someone wrote a flight sim on dec workstations. It was all wireframe. even then, after 5pm, Allen and me would go head to head. It was good enough to get vertigo at times :).
YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT THE NAVAL VARIENT! 😂😂😂 (sorry, I just had to do that)
You know that's not the spelling of variant
I believe that was mentioned in the first minute of the video.
But you have to admit, the Navy paint scheme makes a Phantom look downright AWESOME!!!
@@donaldtaeger918 you have arrived at the joke, welcome!
Zesty
The U.S. rules of engagement in Vietnam required *visual* ID because IFF was unreliable and there had been some friendly fire incidents early on. That often put the Phantoms of parameters for Sparrow missile shots.
'out' of parameters
There was also a lot of aircraft, especially south vietnamese, that might not have IFF transponders. Even in Desert Storm IFF was difficult.
Funny thing about the Sparrow tho is, as much as the missiles had a lot of issues, Phantoms still killed about as much Migs with sparrows as with sidewinders.
can we talk about how the carrier group had ALL FOUR of the Iowa class battleships!
No
I find sparrows (especially earlier variants) rarely work when fighting on the deck. I almost prefer to lead with sparrows when I have a better chance of getting a head on shot from higher altitudes and loot goblin my sidewinders away until I get into closer quarters. Awesome video!
They also seem quite good in hit and run attacks. Early sparrows dont got much range, but you can almost use them like all aspect sidewinders, which is a huge advantage against Migs with rear aspect heaters. In a head on attack, they cant fight back.
Thanks!
How about F-4 Desert Storm Wild Wiesel Mission. Or an A4 CAS mission.
Fox 1 when you’ve got nothing left. Fox 2 is the heater in your chest. Fox 3 is the only friend youll ever need!
amazing stopping on the carrier! Even without a tail hook!! haha
I counted 6 Iowa class Battleships this must be a different timeline where all 6 of the originally planned Iowa's were built instead of just 4
tried to resist the urge to point out that if the bogeys ever get that close to the fleet, someone has already lost their job.
That was a nice landing for the first time on a carrier, with the Phantom. I never get tired of that jet.
Love this dudes vids
Don't really think that carrier group needs any defending with all four Iowa class battleships that were ever built escorting it. lol! (This is a joke)
From what I could tell, there were at least 7, so throw in the Illinois and Kentucky as well as several fictional ones. Then again, by this point in history, the Iowa’s didn’t have any area air defense capability and they never had any ASW ability so…
I noticed this too lol some real
“I’m not locked in here with you. You’re locked in here with me.” Vibes
@@lightspeedvictory USS Montana 😊
@@lightspeedvictoryonly four actually built, rest were scrapped/converted what was made of the keels
@@lightspeedvictory : The North Vietnamese had a total of 4 IL-28 'Beagle' twin engine bombers (Soviet equivalent of the Canberra bomber). An Iowa's WW2 era AA guns would have been sufficient against them.
Have you thought of getting the authentic Navy Phantom experience by flying with no rounds in the gun? I'd like to see that.
Was just listening to an interview with Pete Petigrew. Seems timely
R.I.P. Viper
The F4 Phantom was at one time the worlds largest distributor of Mig parts.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
You'd think that joke would get old being said on every single f4 video. And it does.
@@nathanworthington4451 and who tf cares
@@yurackjung9321 Whoa calm down sweety it's ok.
@nathanworthington4451 You got problems
Really liked this one. Nice to see a big furball above the carrier group. Also cool to see where you were merged with 2 bandits and how your wingman affects the dog fight. Would be cool to see more merges where each guy has a wingman.
Lead sled rolling coal on approach is always a thing of beauty. Great vid.
That carrier landing looked awesome! I have not tried it yet..but looks fun.
You did a great job on that landing 👏 Top Gun style.......!
Great flight and nice landing too!
3rd wire bud!!!! Class ride and class landing. Cheers
Whoever is playing that insane six string bass at the end of this video: Salute to you!!!
You even caught the 3 wire! Great job!
That's an F-4E intended for the USAF and not a naval variant. Sorry, couldn't resist but you asked for it. LOL Great Video man and thanks GS!
Looooool there is always one
Did the Navy have a Phantom with a built in gun?
@@GrowlingSidewinder funny thing is Naval variant would have better radar which would make Sparrows much more useful
also i have to wonder which missiles are being used here - the F-4 module has access to Sidewinders from B up to M variant which is humongous spread in capability and same can be sayd for Sparrows which range from 7E through 7E2 up to 7M - maybe it would be a good idea to name the loadout being used :)
Nice trap! Caught the 3 wire and everything!
Thank you, good to be back.
Be great to have more of this in the perspective of the Hornet, Tomcat, Su-27 etc. Great video as always.
Great video, as always, you never disappoint.
I love the E! I worked on that beautiful brick.
I can honestly say I don’t recall any of our 100+ WW’s taking off without a centerline. It needed the 600 gallons to get in the air.
Finally gets an ideal sparrow shot and then the sparrow does the sparrow thing and tracks the ocean 😂😂
Oh hey Phantom doing a naval fleet stu- IS THAT THE USS MISSOURI?!!!
My uncle flew the F-4 during Vietnam, he took all the details of his missions to his grave. I'm assuming they were top secret.
You do a lot of air to ground missions how about doing a anti-ship mission?
Nice carrier landing and what a stylish split S style tank drop. Bravo! You make this look too easy mate
Instead of Bitching Betty, the Phantom had the ear test pitches and morning alarm as its settings.
FWIW, you helped the fleet even though you weren't the one to shoot down that last plane. You essentially kept him busy enough so he couldn't get a shot on the fleet, and distracted him enough to allow the ships to shoot him down. Still a great job in my book!!
YTer Not a pound for air to ground, did an outstanding video on the history of the Sparrow. It's well worth a look.
"I may just smoke the back of the deck..." Hits the 3 wire like an absolute Chad.
Target fixation will kill you.
Hahahaha......"please fight the urge....." great video. If my Dad was alive he would have insisted on buying a VR sim setup and get back in a Phantom
Outstanding landing sir!
By the way I've been enjoying the Thunderbirds this fourth of July and the F35 lightning 2. Aka Fat Amy. Usually we get the Blue Angels but this year we got the Birds back I haven't seen them in a couple years. One of the advantages of living within a mile of a National Guard base and Airport.
I LOVE the F4 Phantom. I really wish hollywood would do a movie about Operation BOLO/General(at the time of Operation BOLO I believe he was a Colonel)Robin Olds. Robin Olds is a LEGEND in the Air Force/Army Air Corps!!!!
Nice! Even caught the #3 wire!
gs: "i've never done a carrier landing before, with the f-4, so y'know, we'll see how this goes. i might just smoke the back of the carrier, [nervous laugh], we'll see how this plays out"
also gs: does a picture perfect landing
I guess I'll be Captain Obvious and point out that there wouldn't be that many Iowa class battleships in that battle group during the Vietnam era.
Now give me three cheers for the F-4J Phantom!
hip hip hory hip hip hory hip hip horay
I also thought those were the largest and best shipartillery equipped destroyerscreens I had ever seen.
the thing is when F-4J was flying MiGs kinda didnt have flares ... by the time Soviets started putting countermeasures on the MiGs F-4Js were mostly replaced by F-14s and/or upgraded to F-4S standard and Boeing was already prototyping the "SuperPhantom"
Day 2 of asking for a video involving Super Hornets carrying the recently operational AIM-174s
Stuck the landing huh? Nice!
Cant wait until we get the F4S too. The only thing I want in the F4E is a pulse doppler radar.
Nice trap for first one, GS, salute.
"Notoriously unaccurate." Somehow got me giggles.
Per Dan Hampton (first CO of Top Gun) the F4 did its best in the vertical and they referred it to the “Killer Egg.”
That's a lot of Iowas...😄
New Jersey, Iowa and Missouri, there's your 3 Iowa classes that can be dictated on 5:24 :)
nice carrier landing bud!
2:00 - not only was the AIM7 terrible, but in Vietnam IFF sucked worse. The rules of engagement forced visual id to avoid friendly fire driving the AIM9 to be the missile of choice. Even the AIM9 had issues. Remember, at the time the current doctrine in the DoD was guns were obsolete. Funny how reality gets in the way of doctrine and people who don't fly.
I'd like to see a video in which you are able to get the Sparrows working.
this is cool and thank you for making it the F-4 was s back bown plane for years
Good landing! Congrats.
Just waiting for the video with the AIM-174
If you could learn the sparrow and make a tutorial about its potential usage in a dogfight you’d be helping a ton of people out. I’ve played around with it and have gotten to the point where (single player vs. various aircraft) I can use it pretty much exclusively as a dogfight missile. If you wanna mess around with it I’d be happy and excited to try it out in a PvP testbed.
11:03 just a couple of seconds longer and you'd have been under him and would have pointed the nose up getting a better radar return and aiding the Sparrow in avoiding the water.
"We'll see how this plays out..." and the proceeds to snag the 3 wire.😂
Such an aesthetically beautiful aircraft.
Before TOPGUN, Navy F-4 Phantom II fighter crews in Vietnam managed only a 2.5:1 kill ratio versus Soviet-built MiG-17 and MiG-21 fighters
Nice landing!
First deck landing gets you the 3 wire?!?! Nice Trap!!!
Nice landing.
that save was a payed actor 😂that was way too cool
Great what if Navy F4E 😊
Also for future references if you use the f-4e for navel ops just call it that j model and bring a gun pod on the belly nobody will know
That landing is going to leave a scar
Steve Ritchie said he loved the Sparrow. Got all 5 kills with them so YMMV.
Glad to see the Forrestal albeit in her 1980s configuration.
6 Iowa's in that formation? Impressive, most impressive, especially since they only ever built 4 of them.
Can you do Operation Bolo. The mission lead by Robin Olds. Vietnamese thought it was jugs coming and surprise it's all F4 Phantoms
A nice tribute would be the skin for Showtime 100
《Didn't Land Successfully With This Thing》 but hooked the 3rd rope😅
"...never done a carrier landing..." as he catches the #3 wire. Yeeeah.
Awesome demo.
Amazing landing
No surprise that a ship killed that last MIG, with all of the AA guns down below it.
4 iowa class with one supercarrier in single fleet? Buckle up boys. Things are about to go DOWN
Are you using Phantom era weapons on the jets as well as the fleet ships??
we need a video with the aim-174 🙏
Will you be doing a video featuring the Air Forces new missile the AIM-174?
This was intense!
I Noticed your carrier fleet has (5) Iowa class battleships...NICE!I
GS I’d love to see some 2v2 pvp guns only
Whenever I think of the Sparrow, I think of a literal sparrow, but it's braindamaged.
Dammit that's not the naval variant
F/A-18E/F vs F-35C (Fox-2 fight) would be epic to see! Navy vs Navy : Old vs New
Day 63
I didn't know that the Sea Sparrow was an option on the F-4 loadout...