What I've learned from all of the "best spouse" comparison videos, is that everyone sees them through the lens of their own personality and life experiences. Which means each of us sees the NPCs differently. And that's okay. We all don't have to like the same marriage candidate. This is why there are so many different choices in who to romance--or not! (let's not forget Krobus) There is someone for everyone.
I think a lot of people like Elliot, not for his romance events but, for the random dialog he gives while being married. I've married everyone, too, and Elliot is hell of a sweet talker.
Elliot's 14 heart event is literally the sweetest thing, like I cannot even describe to you how much it touched my smol bb heart. And you're right his general dialogue when he's married to you is that with a lot of care and love.
Maybe it will be fixed with an update. I am thinking about using mods but have no clue how to find them and or will I have issues with steam coz of the mods...
@@boredutopia Not sure if you’ve figured it out yet, but NexusMods is a site that has a lot of mods. There’s tutorials out there that teach you how to use them in Steam
Haley is really mean but the more hearts you get with her, the nicer she becomes not only towards you but also towards everybody in town. She is the successfull “i can fix her” character
I was planning on marrying Shane and ended up with Elliott (it's been three in game years now) I understand he might not be for everyone but he's such a malewife and his dialogue in post marriage is so sweet :(
And most of the time they use the boat scene to show why they don't like him which really annoys me bc him and the player are already dating at that point so ofc he's going to kiss them?? You're on ten hearts why are you surprised?? It just seems stupid to me
@@athenasimp9928 Also, like... maybe I'm just autistic myself, but it felt like it was a case of "Elliott scripted and planned this in his head like how it goes in romance novels, but people in real life don't always act like romance novels, so it was a bit pushy where it was supposed to be romantic". Like, I UNDERSTOOD. I FELT IT.
Elliott is one of the few who doesn't become a shell of his former self. He's still working on his books and is a mildly succesful author, he's still melodramatic and sweet as he's always been.
Where his money tho?? Lolol. He goes on a TOUR.... with nothing but a "thank you for letting me do that?" Ugh it makes me mad, the post marriage shit is weak to me
@anothername2557 right? Like.... we are married, but he DOES complain about not making money in town. But still like keep me alive for free, I make money, and man you keep charging me I'll take you out of the will, till death do us part so keep me alive for free or bye to the will lol
I finally found someone else who thinks that Haley is a babygirl. She's literally so sweet after you get to know her and her character developement is top tier. I will never stop defending her. THANK YOU FOR PUTTING HER IN HER OWN SS TIER
To be honest, as someone married to Sebastian I understand why you say something is missing, you really have to take your time and play more to see his dialogue, although you could go to the wiki and check his dialogue too. Sebastian is really sweet and adorable and his character is complemented not only by his heart events, but also by his day-to-day dialogues. I really liked the video, thanks Nino!
I know he says things like being at the farm with you is bringing him out of his shell so maybe that’s why it takes awhile to get the super sweet dialogue. 3 years into marriage he says the sweetest things to me that makes me swoon
True, his daily dialogues are even better than his heart events. I don't love him because of the baddie, emo things, I love him because his relativeness and development after marriage.
What I think I like about Shane is his storyline is the most realistic. You don't just come in and fix all his problems, he's got real emotions and a real struggle. It's not a silly fantasy or unrealistic love, it's a very real, growing close to him and getting to know him.
Krobus is our aroace icon 💜 He lets me get the benefits of marriage without actually having to experience romance for myself in the game. I don’t know if he was intentionally made so romance-repulsed people can feel included, or if that’s just an added bonus. Either way, he makes me so happy
i think the platonic partners mod could be good if you want to live with another character non-romantically, but obviously this only works if you can mod your game and other mods might conflict with it
I was going for Haley just because she seems to despite us at the beginning (totally not because she's gorgeous), and boy was I persistent. But as soon as i knew we could invite Krobus to be our housemate without having to go through mariage I immediately dropped Haley. tbh i felt kinda guilty for abandoning Haley so suddenly but like😭😭😭
I love Krobus. Can't decide on two marrige canidates? Pick Krobus! Want a cute little buddy to spend time with? Pick Krobus! Want to be roomates with a little Shadow pal? Pick Krobus. He's the only right option
I usually end up marrying Alex because my neglected teenage self needs some happiness, but Shane is so adorkable when you marry him that its usually a toss up between them
@@LOLA-yj9rr his sprire still drinks but after his 14 heart event it turns out he's been going to the saloon and is drinking joja cola instead. He does still have the odd line about wanting a beer or cider but as long as you're keeping your spouse happy then no, he's not a heavy drinker like he was
@LOLA-yj9rr as a shane girlie and wife, he doesn't... he drinks soda and plays games to combat the craving... he voices a desire for beer every once in a while but I think every addict has that occasional desire that they are allowed to voice
imo harvey's the best spouse in terms of just, being a good spouse. the thing is though that that kind of harmonious domestic stuff isn't for everyone and some ppl like some problematic yaoi in their lives, so i understand why he ends up lower on a lot of people's personal rankings
my main gripe with harvey is just that he's boring as shit. like all of his dialogues are about staying healthy and how he loves being a doctor and etc and its like.. get a hobby outside of your job my man
@@arsonistnpc This bothers me so much... Like I wish he talked more about his love of planes or something he ACTUALLY cares about instead of health advice I didn't ask for 😭
Look, even us Elliott fans can agree that that 10 heart event is worded really really off...like why the trembling? Was that necessary? It almost made the choice of how you felt for you in a way? But that's not why we love him. We love his sweet, adorable dialogue before and after marriage. He words things in such a romantic flowery way that makes you audibly say 'awww'. Like for me the events could be better (though the 14 heart event is the best but the others need work...) I can overlook them because he's such a nice husband.
(Also the trembling thing is a common romance trope and Elliott's story has a lot of those but I agree that the game kind of makes it weird for no reason)
Some Maru propaganda because honestly she's so underrated: - She's super cute in her nurse uniform and when you're married to her and enter the clinic while she's working, she greets you with a "Hi Honey! ❤" Makes me feel so loved! - She has dialogue about Sebastian not really behaving like a brother towards her and how sad that makes her
The thing about Sebastian is that he says sweet things, but very rarely. You really have to be in it for the long term, so I get why some people wouldn’t get much out of him
As an avid Shane lover, I respect your choice in putting him in “friend” tier. I’m just biased because whenever I played through stardew blind for the first time I married him because thats just how my play through went. I was actually going to try and romance sebastian but shane had the easier loved items 😅
He was the first NPC I ever talked with, so automatically I turned obsessed with him and I marry with him every single save cause I don't have the guts to choose another bachelor 🥺 And also i kinda dislike the other bachelors (especially Seb and Elliot) so it's hard to move on, Shane forever ❤
i avidly remember doing the same thing, buying him and pam beers every day on my first playthrough. i had no idea what else to do some days because i was dumb, so i would spend days fishing to make money so i could give them their gifts. he was the first character i gave a birthday gift to! he certainly is the friend ever
...are you *me* ? I was planning to romance Seb and went with Shane due to I-never-leave-the-basement schedule. Have been marrying Shane ever since, from the first save. 😭
@@than_487yeah i think its easier to friend Linus get sashimi recipe especially now with the cookout kit and then go to give Sebastian his feeding after his nightly smoke break until we can access his basement rather than waiting until Summer for peppers and beer. initially i think it was harder to friend Sebastian and easier to friend Shane first because yhats how my first playthrough went, but recent updates made it easier to get to Sebastian.
as a lesbian irl i definitely have a bias towards the women as marriage candidates, but even leaving that aside, shane as a marriage candidate is absolutely ruined by his room in your house. like it literally just ignores his whole recovery arc by putting beer cans everywhere. it genuinely sucks
So far I’ve only married Seb, Maru, and Elliot. Seb was a bit too emo for me, he does say sweet things sometimes but idk he seemed unhappy in the marriage and I felt guilty like I trapped him or something. Maru was sweet but she seemed more like a friend. I like the idea of her with Penny better. I ended up picking Elliot because I liked his spouse room 😂 then I saw how disliked he was by a few of the sdv RUclipsrs and really leaned into it. All the trees in my greenhouse are pomegranate trees and another next to the outside spouse area. I have an aquarium with squid and lobsters. I have a fish pond of squid for the ink. I have crab cakes and Tom kha soup on the tables of the house, and I have an entire coop of ducks 😅
Honestly, good for you. /gen Not following the crowd or feeling pressured by the hate is something I wish I could do. (I do it unconsciously which doesn't help lol)
I remember watching Elliots 10 heart event with my sister when she played stardew, and thinking he was really sweet and romantic 😭😭 I don’t get why people hate him
It hurts me every time to see how low people rank Maru. She is such a sweetheart. She is a little dork with rather poor social skills and I unironically love that so much. I know she's a little bland beyond that, but to me she just has a certain charm the other marriage candidates kinda lack. Every time I marry someone else in other save files, I end up going back to Maru. I also generally feel Maru's insecurities often get overlooked because there isn't a lot emphasis put on it. When you are married to her she sometimes asks if she is gaining too much weight and in her heart event with Harvey she immediately panics over a very small accident. She got done dirty by the writing honestly, I genuinely see a lot of potential showing through, but it just doesn't get the attention it should. Why isn't there more emphasis on how she feels trapped by her father? Why isn't there more emphasis put on the lack of connection between her and Sebastian (wich she mentions in passing that she feels very sad about because she misses that sibling connection)? I honestly think she might be under a lot of pressure because of her father's expectations. Maybe there could be a little about how Sebastian being a bit of a screw up in their parents' eyes add more pressure to Maru to do better and her maybe holding a tiny bit of resentment towards him for it. Tho that really doesn't feel like the Mary we know in game to hold a genuine grudge, so that might not be a good idea. Maybe this whole "Golden Child" thing could be further explored and how that negatively effects her. Not only with the pressure of expectations, but maybe she feels isolated and lonely beyond just Sebastian not really wanting to talk to her. But instead we only get her ,admittedly cute and charming, but also fairly bland nerdy science, stagrazer side. Don't get me wrong, I like it, it's super cute and romantic... but just whyyyyyy ? 😭
I really like Maru! And i think its so sweet how you protect her! I think she's a great character but I see her more as a friend in the game but i definitly understand why people marry her!
@verii7918 I just have a weakness for sweet nerdy women lmao. Also I do not recall anything about the player ever protecting Maru from anything?? I think you mixed her up with Abigail.
I love Maru's smile. She looks so beautiful wjen she smiles. And it's, more relaxed to be with her. I don't feel pressured. I am not the most romantic person and I heard she is popular with aces.
Just wanted to say I love your comedic timing, I clicked on this video knowing you would put Elliott in the lowest tier and I wouldn't agree but the way you went "I read ten thousand paragraphs of Elliott propaganda AND YOU KNOW WHAT he still sucks" made me choke on my tea laughing, ty
I marry elliot every time. Ive had little stints with others but besides from leah and Emily, all the others become like a shell of their former selves. Elliots loving life and writes his books and helps out on the farm and all his dialogue is "my life is so much better now i love you so much"
I LOVE Shane. Ape did him so dirty, tho. He's in recovery, yet his room has spilled beer. Plus, his 14 heart event isn't sweet or romantic. It's your character not trusting him not to drink. They could've made that scene so sweet if after Shane goes into the saloon the 2nd time and you follow, have your convo minus the "I don't trust you." Then you both make memories gaming in the saloon and drinking joja cola. They could've even changed his room after the 14 heart event. Remove the spilled beer and replace the beer case with joja cola. Sweet and character development PLUS fixes his room and makes it not nasty.
tbf, despite how a lot of media portrays it, recovery is not linear. its not a straight shot "im gonna get better and go to therapy" and then you magically change everything for the better. youre going to have relapses. youre going to have episodes. youre going to feel like you havent made progress at all and wonder why youre even trying. ive been in therapy for my depression for years, and i still often neglect to take care of myself and my belongings. though im still trying every day. its not often talked about because a lot of people are really ashamed of it, but depression (and especially addiction) is ugly. it destroys everything if you let it. and its an incredibly difficult hole to crawl out of, even with support. i dont really like shane as a marriage candidate, but i just wanted to put that out there. hes 100% not ready for a relationship, but as far as how his addiction/depression is handled, its pretty accurate.
Elliot is either you love him or you hate him for players. Hailey is F rank for me, and Eillot "Love of my Life" rank lol. 8 years in-game save and never divorced Elliot, he's just the sweetest, helpful, and gentle soul as a marriage partner. His marriage dialogue and cutscence are perfection. I couldn't bring myself to divorce him. I did 100% game perfection with him as my partner, and I'd rather no one else on that final cut scene than Elliot. But I agree pretty well with everyone you put in the middle.
Three types of people 1: Elliott F, Haley on top, nino kito 2: Haley F, Elliott on top, You 3: both on top, me I love both of them, I have two different batches because I can't marry both at the same time.
Harvey is number one. Helps on farm, gives you massages, cooks for you, never jealous when you give flowers to someone else who is same gender as he. Never makes any drama, have an actual job and does not mop around the house. Decorated the house etc... Number 2 is mark and 3 emely. 4 is Sam. Everyone else sucks..
@@boredutopia omg i'm so sorry, this is like so obvious now (the Name being only one letter off, after all) but for some reason my brain couldn't compute 😅😂
I think: Haley is for people who want to conquer. she is pretty but reserved. Leah is for people who like things easy. but also appreciate nature and art. Abigail is adorable, easy to get a crush on. She's adventurous and she's interested in you. Alex is for people who like it casual, but he also has to be conquered. Emily is for people who like things esoteric and hippie-like. very sweet. Sebastian is the cool one who needs to be saved and he is very cute. Sam is easy to like, very positive and straightforward. Penny is the friendly, quiet girl with a lot of depth, but a bit conservative. Harvey has a certain status as a doctor, he can take care of you, but he is also rather conservative. Maru is for the science nerds and those who like nurses. she is very independent. Shane is the hard shell soft core type who needs saving. Elliott is easy to adore, but a bit toxic because he wants to be seen and therefore often only sees himself. but he ist creative, romantic and lives by the sea.
As an Elliot & Haley lover, I switch between them every few years. I’m personally a writer and a poet, so that’s why I love him so much. As for his more… ‘negative’ scenes, I cannot validate him lmao.
To give him some credit, you ARE somewhat well into dating at that time. To me it reads like an autistic person planning and scripting based on romance novels or TV shows, and trying to make a perfect movie moment happen when, unfortunately, real life doesn't follow those same cues. You can't really suspend disbelief IRL for things you would in romance novels. I'm not here to argue that it was a GOOD move, and those who are made uncomfortable by it are absolutely fair to, but I also can't fault him for trying to hit all the beats he felt he "had to" in order to be a good boyfriend.
@@semidecent4395Which is really fair! He does cross a boundary and comes off strong. I just think it's not enough to genuinely paint him as a "creep" like some people have.
Hi nino! I have also experienced the lovey dovey stuff from Sebastian AS A GIRL FARMER. I think most of bachelors and bachelorettes have different dialogue for the different characters try playing as a girl farmer and see if you get that kind of dialogue from seb
ive married him as both a girl and a boy and as far as i can tell, theres no difference. its just hard for him to verbally express things, so it takes waiting and patience to see his sweeter dialogue.
I’ll be honest, I married Harvey, he’s the only one I’ve married. Other than attempting to woo Sam, and honestly it kinda hurt seeing him so low but also that was entirely fair, but also, is him not taking us in a hot air balloon as our first date after telling us he was scared of heights in the scene with his aviation equipment not out there I found that so adorable. 😭 No hate I agree with most of your choices XD
Same. First game and married Harvey and loved him so much. The second game woo/date everyone and regret it and still choose to marry Harvey. I can't seem to marry others aside from Harvey, he is too precious and I quite respect him
I am an Elliott fangirl for life! He is the best bachelor out of them all and I will die on that hill!! Stop slandering my boy! ^__^ No, seriously though, he's the sweetest person in the valley aside from Granny. He is very poetic and I don't think he always has the same social cues as the rest of us, so he says things that make people arch a brow, but he genuinely doesn't mean any harm. In that scene where he tells you that he wishes he were a farmer instead of a writer, if you pick the option that says, "It's just as difficult being a farmer..." he IMMEDIATELY apologizes and says that his comment was thoughtless. He didn't mean any harm, he just wasn't thinking about how his words could be offensive. I know that sounds like something a WRITER should be aware of, but it still went over his head. Even so, he's a great guy.
I have been told by sebastian he loves me twice now. My first day of marriage with sebastian he watered all my crops and filled my dogs water bowl, the second day of marriage he fed all my animals. The other day he fixed my fences. He sometimes says boring stuff or repeats the same thing but other times he thinks deeper stuff. He also decided to quit smoking for our marriage. I think you must have been unlucky, or needed to spend many more days talking to him. He has said things like "I need my independance but I still love you" and today he said "I went out last night *or something* I have trouble sleeping sometimes it has nothing to do with you, I love you" I def think his character is introverted or suffers from anxiety depression or some form of hikikomori agoraphobia or maybe he is neurodivergent idk
I really like both Leah and Elliot, and I like how I am depressed and happy at the same time after this tier list. Don't understand why people trying to defend their preferences so hard though. Usually people wouldn't change their opinion, and that's understandable. At the end of the day, i think all pixels are cool. :3
My only disappointment is that you misunderstood Penny's 8 heart event. It has to be the mandela effect at this point, I'm not sure how to fix it. You can answer her "do you want kids" question in any way you want, you'll lose at most 10 friendship points. It's all on the wiki. What you lose 1500 friendship points is if you respond "I can't stand kids" to her asking you to help teach a lesson to Jas and Vincent. In front of them. Everything else was fine, it just irritates me that this misunderstanding has gotten so widespread in the Stardew fandom.
Elliot isn't arrogant. Just because he looks smug on his portrait, doesn't mean he's arrogant. He literally apologizes for everything he says or does wrong, I'm pretty sure.
You want a reader/writer's perspective on Elliott? It's giving Mr Darcy pre self reflection. Pretentious and presumptuous. If he had about 10 MORE heart events he could maybe grow and learn in the same way but, as his story is nowhere near as long as P&P, he's stuck as "not handsome enough to tempt me" Mr Darcy energy.
Concerned Ape did Shane so dirty 😭 He’s one of my favorite male bachelors but CA did him SO dirty with his room and later heart events. I would 100% use mods to change his later events and his room.
as much as i love elliott and how smitten i was since the moment i saw him, the “can you put both elliott’s in f? yeah happy to” made me laugh out loud
i think the reason why so many people can gravitate towards elliott is because he’s canonically not young, so you don’t feel like you’re taking advantage of it. he also continues to work for his dream, so you don’t feel guilty for cutting it short. he’s also one hell of a sweet talker and loves you like he was made to love you
I love Alex. I do believe he’s very much for the guys and gays. His arc is one of the best ones in game (second too Shane which i dont see as a romance option since I believe it’s just best being friends but it’s worth sayinf) and everything about his arc is really good. I feel like if your a female farmer you may just be immediately turned off too him and not even try ((which is fair)) but I do like that he apologizes to you for his behavior. Even if his other lines are still a bit questionable. He’s just gotta be my favorite himbo Also, PS: I’m a writer and I wasnt a fan of Elliot. He sucks. People gotta chill😭😭
Alex on top tbh 😭😭😭, I wanted to hate him after he was sexist to me, but I couldn’t 👍🏼 (maybe that’s a me issue lol) Elliot had SO much potential, he was betrayed by his own code - the concept of him is AMAZING, but his dialogue and that boat scene make him so unlikeable
Always played as a female farmer and Alex is my favourite, when I play I view it as he starts of sexist but then changes as a person. I'm kind of a jock myself and find his storyline to be the best and the way the sports part of his life is written is my favourite ever. Also sweetest husband ever, I'm always so charmed by his dialogue when married to him
I'm a writer too, and I find Elliot annoying af over it too ngl. I am also a woman and I LOVE Alex, he's my absolute favorite marriage candidate and I marry him as a female farmer each time. I just love me a himbo
Only male candidate: Elliot. Honestly for Females many of them work, Haley, Leah and Abigail. I just feel that most of the male characters all suck or have worse lives if you marry them. Elliot is the only one whose life improves and he's got great conversations.
Alex is my absolute favorite of all bachelors. I can relate to him cause of the mother thing, not to get into too much detail. And I always play a male farmer, so I guess I see him change for the better more. I would even put him into S-tier, tbh :D
Dismissing Elliott as arrogant is harsh :( He's a bit out of touch, and he speaks fancy, that's it. Though I might be biased because that's EXACTLY how I was as a ND kid (and got bullied renlentlessy for it) 😅 Sebastian is neat, but he's also such a downer all the time -__-
I think the issue issue is people are relating to the character and immediately assuming because you relate to the character of the character will relate to you….. I am saying this as a ND person; just because of character traits that are similar to our does not mean that if they looked at us, our traits would be similar to theirs in their mind. And I think it’s really asinine to say “This character is(insert thing here” like me because i relate to them and Im that! - not saying that’s what you’re doing just that its similar - because I have seen this argument about a lot of characters where someone will say “Well Im ND/Queer/whatever and I relate to this thing about this character so now that means the character is also ND/Queer/Whatever” and it is a weird correlation to me…. (i am also Queer xD) Also not saying everyone does this ; however, I have had an awful interaction with someone who went to the worst version of this, which was to say that - nobody could ever like a specific character as much as they do because nobody could understand that character as much as they do because only they have gone through as much and similar milestones as that character And I feel like that is as close to insanity as I will ever be ….. saying this is someone who has gotten through severe mental breaks before 😂😂
As someone married to Sebastian on a save currently you are so valid for your rating of him! Generally at first I can agree that there IS something missing from him but it does taken reading through his dialogues and understanding some context clues to understand what he means sometimes! He really is an extremely sweet character and when you stay married to him for long enough, you're greeted by multiple cups of coffee per week and sweet words and affirmations daily. BUT-there are better candidates than him! Thank you for the video 🎉 (PS. Also his entire arc of quitting smoking for us and giving up his want to live in the city to settle down with us at the farm is really sweet-not to mention how sassy he can be in some dialogue options post marriage ❤)
Elliot is the loml, ever since i met talked to him first. I took making him my husband VERY seriously. As an artist and someone who also doesnt do well with family, his journey spoke to me. I never thought he was pretentious coz why would a snobbish writer live in a literal SHACK on the beach when he could have more. He chose that for himself, and still loved his life. I do think hes just a bit autistic when it comes to social situations. Its been 4 ingame years and we have 2 kids, and hes the perfect husband and i love spoiling him even after so much time.
I am saying this, as somebody who is autistic don’t call characters autistic unless the fucking person who made them have said they are!!! it is so fucked up of you to say because of the way he acts it makes you think he’s autistic. I don’t care if you’re autistic too.; just because you were late to some of the shit he does doesn’t mean if he ever met you he would relate to you God and the way you worded it makes me wanna throw up “hes just a bit autistic” ….. There is no such thing you either are or you aren’t; it’s a sliding scale on how severe your autism might be; but there is no such thing as “just a little bit autistic”
I don't know why, but the absolutely casual way with which the second Elliot is slam dunked into F tier KILLED me. This is like the second video I've ever watched from you man, keep it up
I'll be honest. Harvey isn't just my favourite candidate in the game, but probably my favourite candidate in ANY game. Like, his personalised is exactly the type I go for IRL. He's such a sweetheart.
canNOT believe you gave eliott a double f.... hes the best character because he can write fanfics of both of us making out and THEN reenact the entire thing with me, and i would deadass NOT be mad
In the heart of Stardew Valley, a world where each day blooms with the promise of discovery, Elliot’s narrative weaves through the fabric of this land, distinguished by moments that reveal his profound layers. His journey, marked by the serene and the tumultuous, invites one into a reflection on what truly elevates one soul above the rest. Elliot’s emotional depth is beautifully showcased when he invites you to the beach, sharing his thoughts and feelings against the backdrop of the setting sun. This moment, where the sea whispers secrets only he seems to understand, reveals his deep connection to the world around him, a testament to his capacity for empathy and emotional resonance. His intellectual pursuits come to light in his cabin, surrounded by manuscripts and books. Struggling with writer’s block, he shares his aspiration to create something meaningful, illustrating his dedication to art and the intellectual rigor it demands. This struggle, common to many but persevered by few, highlights his commitment to growth and understanding, setting him apart in a community where simpler lives are the norm. The artistic sensibility Elliot embodies is most vividly captured in his discussions about the inspiration he draws from nature. Whether it’s the stormy sea or the tranquil forest, his ability to find beauty and stories in the natural world underscores a profound sensibility that enriches his character and his relationships. During the 6-heart event, Elliot opens up about his fears and aspirations, a vulnerability that invites a deeper emotional connection. This moment of sharing, where he seeks understanding and support, underscores the richness of a relationship with him, built on mutual empathy and emotional exploration. At the 8-heart event, Elliot invites the player into his creative process, sharing his latest manuscript. This act of sharing is not merely a step in his personal journey but an invitation into the intellectual intimacy that characterizes his deepest connections, offering a partnership that thrives on shared passions and pursuits. The culmination of Elliot’s narrative arc, the 10-heart event, beautifully illustrates his growth and the depth of the bond he forms. Choosing a secluded spot, he reveals his deepest feelings, a testament to the journey he and the player have undertaken together. This moment, emblematic of trust and mutual growth, solidifies his position as a character of unmatched depth and potential for connection. Elliot, through the tapestry of his moments and memories within Stardew Valley, emerges as a figure of unparalleled complexity and beauty. His superiority, woven through cutscenes that serve as windows into his soul, is not merely in his distinctive traits but in the journey he invites one on-a journey of emotional depth, intellectual exploration, and artistic discovery. In Elliot, one finds not just a character in a game, but a reflection of the myriad facets that make love, and life, profoundly worth pursuing. Anyways, Elliot is S tier.
I love how you rated their stories separately because I totally agree with Shane's ranking, makes me wish the game had an option to build true friendship and further develop those stories without having to be romantically tied to them.
I love Leah so much! Like her story, that 6 heart cutscene with the fruit, and also this one piece of dialogue that's like "we both live outside of town does that mean something?" Just had me head over heels! She is everything!!! And like, YES, thank you for appreciating my fave!!!
As a person that really likes Elliot, I 100% understand and respect your opinion. I do like him, but I definitely get why lots of people can’t stand him (and poor Gus didn’t deserve that 😅)
I’m biased, but having gone Abigail, Sebastian, Haley in marriage order, I feel like Abigail and Sebastian are both a little immature? Like, they appeal most to people their age, but the older you get, the less you appreciate them
"Emily's the fling you have when you're 21" Man, you just described my experience, I just started playing Stardew and she was my first choice for marriage. I feel called out.
My personal ranking would be this: Love of my life: Sam S: Maru A: Sebastian, Haley B: Elliott, because he's funny with his "Prince Charming-like" lines Just friends (I tried but it felt so weird to marry them lol): Abigail, Leah, Shane, Emily, Harvey, Alex and Krobus. Penny is not my friend since she forces you to like/want children. Don't get me wrong: I don't despise kids, I just think it's none of her business.
Bro really disliked Penny for knowing what she wants. She wants kids, and at the point she asks, she is clearly sizing the farmer up for a potential mate. At least he is fair to Abigail. So many people act like she is a nothing burger served with rocks.
I hate penny for one reason shes rude when she doesnt like something you can just say its not your thing girl, no need to be rude 😂 plus my fiancee married her in the game i was salty as a joke and married shane 😂
Honestly I can relate to the tier list. But for some gosh darn reason i think emily is realllly boring because she is just to quirky for my taste, but sam and abigail and leah, also haley on the other hand are all the love of my life
Agreed! Shane and Leah are my favorite choices for spouses. The only thing I don't like about Shane, and this has nothing to do with his character, but is actually one of the extremely few things Concerned Ape seemed to have overlooked, is that beer still remains one of his favorite gifts to receive, even if he promised to give up on alcohol to the player.
I will stand by Sam being best husband for as long as I live ^^ Also I'm on the side of the fandom that likes Elliott but I understand why people dislike him...
tldr; *My top 3 S tiers are Harvey, Sam and Leah* I started playing Stardew because my sister said that Harvey was like my boyfrfiend irl (also the game seemed generally cool -I love it now) Harvey is in my S tier for so many reasons, he's so sweet and so romantic in his own ways and I love that about him on top of the spouse roles for gameplay ie. food gifts, watering crops/feeding animals. Never thought I'd like Sam, but oh my gosh after another playthrough I gave him a chance and was SWOONED - also sweet and his 10 heart? Sweet and spicy lol but his character development and genuine kindness and fun loving sense to him really got me Leah - she is so cool and I really like getting to know her and running into her by accident most of the time. I think she's lovely, down to earth and has a great story not too dissimilar to the farmers. Love the heart event with her and Marnie haha (I haven't married her but I feel like she and the farmer would make a cozy twosome)
Yall gotta stop bullying Harvey for game mechanics he can’t control 😭 my mans is done dirty all the time he’s the sweetest he gives me truffle oil massages and makes me complete breakfasts
Genuinely do not understand people who hate on Elliott. He's incredibly romantic and supportive as a partner. His married dialogue is swoon worthy and he's got the sweetest 14 heart event. All the other male candidates pale in comparison.
@@hollyclare_ yes! i have pink hair irl and it's sooo hard to match the color :( i use a very bright reddish pink in game and it's fiiiine.. i wonder if there's a mod for the hair colors.. maybe i should learn how to mod my game
@@CrowLady0_0 I highly recommend using mods! The initial set up of smapi is a bit fiddly. I used online guides/videos. But once done, adding and taking away mods is very easy. I haven't got one for hair colour tho - will need to do some searching! 💕
I would agree on most of these. My changes would be that Sam is love of my life tier. He has some other great dialogue that I don't think you've seen. Like he knows about his mother being secretly unhappy, and he tells you about his dad pacing the halls at night but refusing to talk to Sam or Jody about his PTSD. He worries about Vincent in sweet ways, and he's a great dad. And Sam grows even further as a character in his summit dialogue, which gets me right in the heart. “I feel like I've changed a lot from when we first met... you know? ...you might call it 'maturity'... hehe. But I'm at a place, now, where I'm actually really excited about our future together.. Even if that means just doing normal stuff, like... uh... buying groceries and changing diapers... hah...” He's grown up so much, and he basically gave us the Waymond Wang "laundry and taxes" line years before Everything, Everywhere, All at Once was made. Sam looking forward to even the mundane or unpleasant parts of life in his future with the player strikes me as far more romantic than any of Elliott's flowery declarations. My other switches would be Haley to A. Harvey to B. Elliott to C, because I enjoy his book and don't mind the questionable boat scene. And Seb down to F for me. (Seb has some solid heart events, but I feel like he's too emotionally distant for me. He's always talking about space of his own, and it really irks me that he doesn't even try to offer the player any kind of meal. Sam and Shane can't cook, but they still make an effort. Shane will make you pepper poppers or pizza. After seeing how Jody reacts to a dropped egg, it's no surprise Sam can't cook, but he still makes instant pancakes and heats pizzas for us. Sebastian on the other hand has dialogue where he talks about heating a pizza just for himself, and he never thinks of the player. It bugs me how emotionally unavailable he seems even after marriage. )
My first file I married Alex. Yes, I found him sexist at first, but his heart events won me over. And his married dialogue at the winter star event. 😍 Although, I think Hayley says the same thing.
I married Alex (male player) in my first ever stardew save and only found out about the female player dialogue after but at that point I was emotionally invested. I completely agree with basically everything you said about him
Great video, Krobus is a def fave. My man, Shane, was done dirty. But he is simply misunderstood. The fact that he’s a guy struggling with mental health, but overcomes it, and he loves animals, whilst also being a dorky gamer, just makes my heart happy. It feels like you actually get to bond with him. Krobus is just the most wholesome little guy. I hope he gets the world.
I don’t play Stardew Valley much, but I have a save file where I’m a girl and I’m going after Abigail and one of her cutscenes just got me. I do find it annoying that there’s only two gender options for the character though
This was meant to go out last year as a way to cap off 2023 but oh well subscribe for Haley best girl! :3
Hey! For some reason, the discord link isn't working. I'm not sure how to use it. Is there a way i can fix this?
Where is Krobus??
Haley…slayley💅
wooo
What I've learned from all of the "best spouse" comparison videos, is that everyone sees them through the lens of their own personality and life experiences. Which means each of us sees the NPCs differently.
And that's okay. We all don't have to like the same marriage candidate. This is why there are so many different choices in who to romance--or not! (let's not forget Krobus) There is someone for everyone.
I think a lot of people like Elliot, not for his romance events but, for the random dialog he gives while being married. I've married everyone, too, and Elliot is hell of a sweet talker.
Elliot's 14 heart event is literally the sweetest thing, like I cannot even describe to you how much it touched my smol bb heart. And you're right his general dialogue when he's married to you is that with a lot of care and love.
He is 🥺💕💕💕
I just like him because he’s a writer (so am I)
The only thing that throws me off is that we have the same name lol
@@Azrael-f6zLMFAOOOOO ME TOO 😭
i love the way he talks even when you’re less than 8 hearts with him
I find it very strange that the game generates dialogues that don't take into account the fact that you are in a relationship with the character...
@A_boring_person "Am I single? I am NOW."
romance mods are a real life saver
Maybe it will be fixed with an update. I am thinking about using mods but have no clue how to find them and or will I have issues with steam coz of the mods...
Never married a character other than Leah she’s actually the best. Favorite NPC in the game I love every update that gives her more dialogue
@@boredutopia Not sure if you’ve figured it out yet, but NexusMods is a site that has a lot of mods. There’s tutorials out there that teach you how to use them in Steam
Alex deserves an award for being the gayest marriage candidate
Make that Alex and Hayley‼️❤️
Im actually married him 💀💀💀💀
Too real bro
Yes
I don’t get how he’s the gayest
I love how when you divorce someone, they get so mad they take their entire room with them, walls and all 😂😂
@@Carla-watches they ask hulk to just grab it lmao
they like "FUCK YOU, IM TAKING YOUR WALLS
Haley is really mean but the more hearts you get with her, the nicer she becomes not only towards you but also towards everybody in town. She is the successfull “i can fix her” character
So,true
So true
So true
that's why i think she is the best person to marry
@@Colewavethe moment I saw her in stardew valley on my first playthrough I immediately searched for romance mods
"penny sucks bc she pushes george without consent"
2 mins earlier: "alex is misogynistic and harasses you but he's HOT SO-"
"Double standards, son !"
@@Nokyyyyy They wouldn't have any without them.
@@Niterayde what
@@Nokyyyyy they wouldn't have standards, if they didn't have double standards.
He only does that when you play as a girl pretty much so
I was planning on marrying Shane and ended up with Elliott (it's been three in game years now) I understand he might not be for everyone but he's such a malewife and his dialogue in post marriage is so sweet :(
And most of the time they use the boat scene to show why they don't like him which really annoys me bc him and the player are already dating at that point so ofc he's going to kiss them?? You're on ten hearts why are you surprised?? It just seems stupid to me
Irl, my first consensual kiss made me tremble. People keep doing romance wrong! I love Elliot.
@@athenasimp9928 Also, like... maybe I'm just autistic myself, but it felt like it was a case of "Elliott scripted and planned this in his head like how it goes in romance novels, but people in real life don't always act like romance novels, so it was a bit pushy where it was supposed to be romantic". Like, I UNDERSTOOD. I FELT IT.
Yes, and the letters were really sweet 🥲
@@athenasimp9928 he’s also not the only person who kisses you without asking! Idk why everyone singles him out :(
Elliott is one of the few who doesn't become a shell of his former self. He's still working on his books and is a mildly succesful author, he's still melodramatic and sweet as he's always been.
Haley becomes a cute supportive farmer who cares about the farm and still does photography
Where his money tho?? Lolol. He goes on a TOUR.... with nothing but a "thank you for letting me do that?" Ugh it makes me mad, the post marriage shit is weak to me
@@conman17 if you're looking for money NO ONE is actually making bank.. except havey, but he's making it from you lfmao
@anothername2557 right? Like.... we are married, but he DOES complain about not making money in town. But still like keep me alive for free, I make money, and man you keep charging me I'll take you out of the will, till death do us part so keep me alive for free or bye to the will lol
@@ladirectora2273 Love love LOOOVE Elliot 😍
i think elliott's just socially awkward lol, he reminds me a bit of myself when i was 14. he's a sweet dude, just a bit odd and melodramatic
He is and will always be my favorite 💕
I finally found someone else who thinks that Haley is a babygirl. She's literally so sweet after you get to know her and her character developement is top tier. I will never stop defending her. THANK YOU FOR PUTTING HER IN HER OWN SS TIER
Haley best girl
yessss idk why people hate on her so much she’s a sweetie and has so much growth as u get to know her
I love her so much
i love her but also i feel so bad when she talks about feeling lonely on the farm :( wish she had more to do
fr i marry her in every save file
To be honest, as someone married to Sebastian I understand why you say something is missing, you really have to take your time and play more to see his dialogue, although you could go to the wiki and check his dialogue too. Sebastian is really sweet and adorable and his character is complemented not only by his heart events, but also by his day-to-day dialogues. I really liked the video, thanks Nino!
ok unrelated but AAAA ACE ATTORNEY FAN SPOTTED
I know he says things like being at the farm with you is bringing him out of his shell so maybe that’s why it takes awhile to get the super sweet dialogue. 3 years into marriage he says the sweetest things to me that makes me swoon
True, his daily dialogues are even better than his heart events. I don't love him because of the baddie, emo things, I love him because his relativeness and development after marriage.
Oh erm I okay a save with my family and we all call him useless cause he doesn’t get to work😢
What I think I like about Shane is his storyline is the most realistic. You don't just come in and fix all his problems, he's got real emotions and a real struggle. It's not a silly fantasy or unrealistic love, it's a very real, growing close to him and getting to know him.
Krobus is our aroace icon 💜 He lets me get the benefits of marriage without actually having to experience romance for myself in the game. I don’t know if he was intentionally made so romance-repulsed people can feel included, or if that’s just an added bonus. Either way, he makes me so happy
He is epic
I'm aroace but I'm also cupioromantic so I would rather marry someone in game but holy shit do I love krobus
i think the platonic partners mod could be good if you want to live with another character non-romantically, but obviously this only works if you can mod your game and other mods might conflict with it
I was going for Haley just because she seems to despite us at the beginning (totally not because she's gorgeous), and boy was I persistent. But as soon as i knew we could invite Krobus to be our housemate without having to go through mariage I immediately dropped Haley. tbh i felt kinda guilty for abandoning Haley so suddenly but like😭😭😭
I love Krobus. Can't decide on two marrige canidates? Pick Krobus! Want a cute little buddy to spend time with? Pick Krobus! Want to be roomates with a little Shadow pal? Pick Krobus. He's the only right option
I usually end up marrying Alex because my neglected teenage self needs some happiness, but Shane is so adorkable when you marry him that its usually a toss up between them
I read somewhere that Shane goes back to heavy drinking after marriage is that fr??
@@LOLA-yj9rr his sprire still drinks but after his 14 heart event it turns out he's been going to the saloon and is drinking joja cola instead. He does still have the odd line about wanting a beer or cider but as long as you're keeping your spouse happy then no, he's not a heavy drinker like he was
Me too me too
@LOLA-yj9rr as a shane girlie and wife, he doesn't... he drinks soda and plays games to combat the craving... he voices a desire for beer every once in a while but I think every addict has that occasional desire that they are allowed to voice
imo harvey's the best spouse in terms of just, being a good spouse. the thing is though that that kind of harmonious domestic stuff isn't for everyone and some ppl like some problematic yaoi in their lives, so i understand why he ends up lower on a lot of people's personal rankings
harvey best!!!!!
The problem is, I'm a whore for lore and he just doesn't have much of a story. 100% agree he's the ideal spouse though.
my main gripe with harvey is just that he's boring as shit. like all of his dialogues are about staying healthy and how he loves being a doctor and etc and its like.. get a hobby outside of your job my man
Harvey is my favorite BECAUSE he is so “bland”. No drama, no arguments, no nothing except caring and sweet 🥹
@@arsonistnpc This bothers me so much... Like I wish he talked more about his love of planes or something he ACTUALLY cares about instead of health advice I didn't ask for 😭
In the end, Krobus was the real S tier candidate all along
Truth
❤❤
Look, even us Elliott fans can agree that that 10 heart event is worded really really off...like why the trembling? Was that necessary? It almost made the choice of how you felt for you in a way? But that's not why we love him. We love his sweet, adorable dialogue before and after marriage. He words things in such a romantic flowery way that makes you audibly say 'awww'. Like for me the events could be better (though the 14 heart event is the best but the others need work...) I can overlook them because he's such a nice husband.
(Also the trembling thing is a common romance trope and Elliott's story has a lot of those but I agree that the game kind of makes it weird for no reason)
Idk, some people tremble after their first kiss. Didn't seem off to me imo
@Al_-cf1dj Elliot is for those of us who enjoy reading Jane Austen lol.
I don’t get the Elliot slander bruh 😭 As the farmer you are literally his inspiration to write a whole ass book and omg it’s so romantic
I don’t like Elliot cause I’m married to Leah and Elliot keeps getting too close to her in these events, like back away Elliot she married.
@@Hyperbac
I understand what you're saying because the same thing happens to me with Haley and Alex 😠
@@Hyperbacexactly my thoughts. Some posh silver tongue who is trying his limits to steal his friends wife.
@@Hyperbac We have two hands for a reason 😤
@@Hyperbacdoesn't that happen with everyone? Alex, penny.seb, Abigail. Leah, Elliot. Alex, Hailey.
Some Maru propaganda because honestly she's so underrated:
- She's super cute in her nurse uniform and when you're married to her and enter the clinic while she's working, she greets you with a "Hi Honey! ❤" Makes me feel so loved!
- She has dialogue about Sebastian not really behaving like a brother towards her and how sad that makes her
I place the blame of the family dynamic solely on her dad
I fuckn love maru she is my #1
I've always been annoyed because there is no cutscene specifically for Seb and Maru. Their relationship is a story gold mine.
@@kenniesaurus27 Exactly! Forget the romance mods, where's my mod exploring Seb and Maru's relationship with backstory and a sweet reconciliation?
Robin shares in the blame, too. She's the one who just keeps letting her husband treat her son like trash.@@athenasimp9928
The thing about Sebastian is that he says sweet things, but very rarely. You really have to be in it for the long term, so I get why some people wouldn’t get much out of him
As an avid Shane lover, I respect your choice in putting him in “friend” tier. I’m just biased because whenever I played through stardew blind for the first time I married him because thats just how my play through went. I was actually going to try and romance sebastian but shane had the easier loved items 😅
He was the first NPC I ever talked with, so automatically I turned obsessed with him and I marry with him every single save cause I don't have the guts to choose another bachelor 🥺
And also i kinda dislike the other bachelors (especially Seb and Elliot) so it's hard to move on, Shane forever ❤
i avidly remember doing the same thing, buying him and pam beers every day on my first playthrough. i had no idea what else to do some days because i was dumb, so i would spend days fishing to make money so i could give them their gifts. he was the first character i gave a birthday gift to! he certainly is the friend ever
...are you *me* ? I was planning to romance Seb and went with Shane due to I-never-leave-the-basement schedule. Have been marrying Shane ever since, from the first save. 😭
@@than_487yeah i think its easier to friend Linus get sashimi recipe especially now with the cookout kit and then go to give Sebastian his feeding after his nightly smoke break until we can access his basement rather than waiting until Summer for peppers and beer. initially i think it was harder to friend Sebastian and easier to friend Shane first because yhats how my first playthrough went, but recent updates made it easier to get to Sebastian.
I agree Leah is a solid S, I get more best friend vibes with so many others but Leah was definitely my first real Stardew crush
My first real stardew crush was Emily… now that I’ve watched the video I guess that’s a problem lol
as a lesbian irl i definitely have a bias towards the women as marriage candidates, but even leaving that aside, shane as a marriage candidate is absolutely ruined by his room in your house. like it literally just ignores his whole recovery arc by putting beer cans everywhere. it genuinely sucks
So far I’ve only married Seb, Maru, and Elliot. Seb was a bit too emo for me, he does say sweet things sometimes but idk he seemed unhappy in the marriage and I felt guilty like I trapped him or something. Maru was sweet but she seemed more like a friend. I like the idea of her with Penny better. I ended up picking Elliot because I liked his spouse room 😂 then I saw how disliked he was by a few of the sdv RUclipsrs and really leaned into it. All the trees in my greenhouse are pomegranate trees and another next to the outside spouse area. I have an aquarium with squid and lobsters. I have a fish pond of squid for the ink. I have crab cakes and Tom kha soup on the tables of the house, and I have an entire coop of ducks 😅
Honestly, good for you. /gen
Not following the crowd or feeling pressured by the hate is something I wish I could do. (I do it unconsciously which doesn't help lol)
I am shamelessly and eternally an Elliot stan.
Samd
I remember watching Elliots 10 heart event with my sister when she played stardew, and thinking he was really sweet and romantic 😭😭 I don’t get why people hate him
I named the ducks after the characters in his book
It hurts me every time to see how low people rank Maru. She is such a sweetheart. She is a little dork with rather poor social skills and I unironically love that so much. I know she's a little bland beyond that, but to me she just has a certain charm the other marriage candidates kinda lack. Every time I marry someone else in other save files, I end up going back to Maru. I also generally feel Maru's insecurities often get overlooked because there isn't a lot emphasis put on it. When you are married to her she sometimes asks if she is gaining too much weight and in her heart event with Harvey she immediately panics over a very small accident.
She got done dirty by the writing honestly, I genuinely see a lot of potential showing through, but it just doesn't get the attention it should. Why isn't there more emphasis on how she feels trapped by her father? Why isn't there more emphasis put on the lack of connection between her and Sebastian (wich she mentions in passing that she feels very sad about because she misses that sibling connection)? I honestly think she might be under a lot of pressure because of her father's expectations. Maybe there could be a little about how Sebastian being a bit of a screw up in their parents' eyes add more pressure to Maru to do better and her maybe holding a tiny bit of resentment towards him for it. Tho that really doesn't feel like the Mary we know in game to hold a genuine grudge, so that might not be a good idea. Maybe this whole "Golden Child" thing could be further explored and how that negatively effects her. Not only with the pressure of expectations, but maybe she feels isolated and lonely beyond just Sebastian not really wanting to talk to her. But instead we only get her ,admittedly cute and charming, but also fairly bland nerdy science, stagrazer side. Don't get me wrong, I like it, it's super cute and romantic... but just whyyyyyy ? 😭
I really like Maru! And i think its so sweet how you protect her! I think she's a great character but I see her more as a friend in the game but i definitly understand why people marry her!
@verii7918 I just have a weakness for sweet nerdy women lmao. Also I do not recall anything about the player ever protecting Maru from anything?? I think you mixed her up with Abigail.
@@MostAttractiveDudeInTown NO NO Sorry! I meant its sweet how YOU protect her I love when people protect the characters they love
I love Maru's smile. She looks so beautiful wjen she smiles. And it's, more relaxed to be with her. I don't feel pressured. I am not the most romantic person and I heard she is popular with aces.
I agree with so much of what you said...but I love Elliott. Sometimes, I just feel dramatic.
Just wanted to say I love your comedic timing, I clicked on this video knowing you would put Elliott in the lowest tier and I wouldn't agree but the way you went "I read ten thousand paragraphs of Elliott propaganda AND YOU KNOW WHAT he still sucks" made me choke on my tea laughing, ty
Haley reigns supreme again. My goddess who I’ll never divorce. I don’t even know if I’ll ever be able to do another play through without marrying her.
elliot stan his idalouge post-marriage is cute. his 14 heart event made me squeal
I marry elliot every time. Ive had little stints with others but besides from leah and Emily, all the others become like a shell of their former selves. Elliots loving life and writes his books and helps out on the farm and all his dialogue is "my life is so much better now i love you so much"
For me its also a big + that he actually feels like an adult, were as Sam, Sebastian and Alex seem like they are barely out of highschool...
I LOVE Shane. Ape did him so dirty, tho. He's in recovery, yet his room has spilled beer. Plus, his 14 heart event isn't sweet or romantic. It's your character not trusting him not to drink. They could've made that scene so sweet if after Shane goes into the saloon the 2nd time and you follow, have your convo minus the "I don't trust you." Then you both make memories gaming in the saloon and drinking joja cola.
They could've even changed his room after the 14 heart event. Remove the spilled beer and replace the beer case with joja cola.
Sweet and character development PLUS fixes his room and makes it not nasty.
tbf, despite how a lot of media portrays it, recovery is not linear. its not a straight shot "im gonna get better and go to therapy" and then you magically change everything for the better. youre going to have relapses. youre going to have episodes. youre going to feel like you havent made progress at all and wonder why youre even trying. ive been in therapy for my depression for years, and i still often neglect to take care of myself and my belongings. though im still trying every day. its not often talked about because a lot of people are really ashamed of it, but depression (and especially addiction) is ugly. it destroys everything if you let it. and its an incredibly difficult hole to crawl out of, even with support.
i dont really like shane as a marriage candidate, but i just wanted to put that out there. hes 100% not ready for a relationship, but as far as how his addiction/depression is handled, its pretty accurate.
Elliot is either you love him or you hate him for players. Hailey is F rank for me, and Eillot "Love of my Life" rank lol. 8 years in-game save and never divorced Elliot, he's just the sweetest, helpful, and gentle soul as a marriage partner. His marriage dialogue and cutscence are perfection. I couldn't bring myself to divorce him.
I did 100% game perfection with him as my partner, and I'd rather no one else on that final cut scene than Elliot.
But I agree pretty well with everyone you put in the middle.
Three types of people
1: Elliott F, Haley on top, nino kito
2: Haley F, Elliott on top, You
3: both on top, me
I love both of them, I have two different batches because I can't marry both at the same time.
im a Leah gal, she's just perfect! she also seems really cut out for actually helping on a farm, post marriage she seems to really embrace it!
Leah is for lesbian girls (I’m the lesbian girl)
Harvey is number one. Helps on farm, gives you massages, cooks for you, never jealous when you give flowers to someone else who is same gender as he. Never makes any drama, have an actual job and does not mop around the house. Decorated the house etc... Number 2 is mark and 3 emely. 4 is Sam. Everyone else sucks..
Who is Mark?
....Mark? Wait, who is Mark?
@@D0MiN0ChAn mistyped lol. Maru
@@boredutopia omg i'm so sorry, this is like so obvious now (the Name being only one letter off, after all) but for some reason my brain couldn't compute 😅😂
I agree with this 100%
You have great taste
WHAT IS SO WRONG WITH ELLIOT???? i love him, elliot 4 life frfr
That is people's preferences on characters. Some people might ship Leah and Elliot together.
@@caseydreamuslpsandmore2582 I hate him for the exact same reason - Leah is MINE
I think: Haley is for people who want to conquer. she is pretty but reserved.
Leah is for people who like things easy. but also appreciate nature and art.
Abigail is adorable, easy to get a crush on. She's adventurous and she's interested in you.
Alex is for people who like it casual, but he also has to be conquered.
Emily is for people who like things esoteric and hippie-like. very sweet.
Sebastian is the cool one who needs to be saved and he is very cute.
Sam is easy to like, very positive and straightforward.
Penny is the friendly, quiet girl with a lot of depth, but a bit conservative.
Harvey has a certain status as a doctor, he can take care of you, but he is also rather conservative.
Maru is for the science nerds and those who like nurses. she is very independent.
Shane is the hard shell soft core type who needs saving.
Elliott is easy to adore, but a bit toxic because he wants to be seen and therefore often only sees himself. but he ist creative, romantic and lives by the sea.
As an Elliot & Haley lover, I switch between them every few years. I’m personally a writer and a poet, so that’s why I love him so much. As for his more… ‘negative’ scenes, I cannot validate him lmao.
Nah, his 14 heart event makes up for his spooky 10 heart event.
To give him some credit, you ARE somewhat well into dating at that time. To me it reads like an autistic person planning and scripting based on romance novels or TV shows, and trying to make a perfect movie moment happen when, unfortunately, real life doesn't follow those same cues. You can't really suspend disbelief IRL for things you would in romance novels. I'm not here to argue that it was a GOOD move, and those who are made uncomfortable by it are absolutely fair to, but I also can't fault him for trying to hit all the beats he felt he "had to" in order to be a good boyfriend.
@@salmonandsoup THATS EXACLY WHAT I THOUGHT I didnt know how to put it in words but this acually helped me alot!
I just felt his 10 heart event was structured in a way that was just, too close to an ick
@@semidecent4395Which is really fair! He does cross a boundary and comes off strong. I just think it's not enough to genuinely paint him as a "creep" like some people have.
Hi nino! I have also experienced the lovey dovey stuff from Sebastian AS A GIRL FARMER. I think most of bachelors and bachelorettes have different dialogue for the different characters try playing as a girl farmer and see if you get that kind of dialogue from seb
ive married him as both a girl and a boy and as far as i can tell, theres no difference. its just hard for him to verbally express things, so it takes waiting and patience to see his sweeter dialogue.
I’ll be honest, I married Harvey, he’s the only one I’ve married. Other than attempting to woo Sam, and honestly it kinda hurt seeing him so low but also that was entirely fair, but also, is him not taking us in a hot air balloon as our first date after telling us he was scared of heights in the scene with his aviation equipment not out there I found that so adorable. 😭
No hate I agree with most of your choices XD
Same. First game and married Harvey and loved him so much. The second game woo/date everyone and regret it and still choose to marry Harvey. I can't seem to marry others aside from Harvey, he is too precious and I quite respect him
I am an Elliott fangirl for life! He is the best bachelor out of them all and I will die on that hill!! Stop slandering my boy! ^__^ No, seriously though, he's the sweetest person in the valley aside from Granny. He is very poetic and I don't think he always has the same social cues as the rest of us, so he says things that make people arch a brow, but he genuinely doesn't mean any harm. In that scene where he tells you that he wishes he were a farmer instead of a writer, if you pick the option that says, "It's just as difficult being a farmer..." he IMMEDIATELY apologizes and says that his comment was thoughtless. He didn't mean any harm, he just wasn't thinking about how his words could be offensive. I know that sounds like something a WRITER should be aware of, but it still went over his head. Even so, he's a great guy.
I have been told by sebastian he loves me twice now. My first day of marriage with sebastian he watered all my crops and filled my dogs water bowl, the second day of marriage he fed all my animals. The other day he fixed my fences. He sometimes says boring stuff or repeats the same thing but other times he thinks deeper stuff. He also decided to quit smoking for our marriage. I think you must have been unlucky, or needed to spend many more days talking to him. He has said things like "I need my independance but I still love you" and today he said "I went out last night *or something* I have trouble sleeping sometimes it has nothing to do with you, I love you"
I def think his character is introverted or suffers from anxiety depression or some form of hikikomori agoraphobia or maybe he is neurodivergent idk
First day of marriage he told me to fuck off basically
I really like both Leah and Elliot, and I like how I am depressed and happy at the same time after this tier list.
Don't understand why people trying to defend their preferences so hard though.
Usually people wouldn't change their opinion, and that's understandable.
At the end of the day, i think all pixels are cool. :3
My only disappointment is that you misunderstood Penny's 8 heart event. It has to be the mandela effect at this point, I'm not sure how to fix it. You can answer her "do you want kids" question in any way you want, you'll lose at most 10 friendship points. It's all on the wiki.
What you lose 1500 friendship points is if you respond "I can't stand kids" to her asking you to help teach a lesson to Jas and Vincent. In front of them.
Everything else was fine, it just irritates me that this misunderstanding has gotten so widespread in the Stardew fandom.
Elliot isn't arrogant. Just because he looks smug on his portrait, doesn't mean he's arrogant. He literally apologizes for everything he says or does wrong, I'm pretty sure.
You want a reader/writer's perspective on Elliott? It's giving Mr Darcy pre self reflection. Pretentious and presumptuous. If he had about 10 MORE heart events he could maybe grow and learn in the same way but, as his story is nowhere near as long as P&P, he's stuck as "not handsome enough to tempt me" Mr Darcy energy.
Concerned Ape did Shane so dirty 😭 He’s one of my favorite male bachelors but CA did him SO dirty with his room and later heart events. I would 100% use mods to change his later events and his room.
as much as i love elliott and how smitten i was since the moment i saw him, the “can you put both elliott’s in f? yeah happy to” made me laugh out loud
i think the reason why so many people can gravitate towards elliott is because he’s canonically not young, so you don’t feel like you’re taking advantage of it. he also continues to work for his dream, so you don’t feel guilty for cutting it short. he’s also one hell of a sweet talker and loves you like he was made to love you
NO HATE MEANT BTW 😭😭 i just think it’s so funny to see people hate on him cuz like yeah he’s cringe fail but he’s MY cringe fail male wife yknow?
I love Alex. I do believe he’s very much for the guys and gays. His arc is one of the best ones in game (second too Shane which i dont see as a romance option since I believe it’s just best being friends but it’s worth sayinf) and everything about his arc is really good. I feel like if your a female farmer you may just be immediately turned off too him and not even try ((which is fair)) but I do like that he apologizes to you for his behavior. Even if his other lines are still a bit questionable. He’s just gotta be my favorite himbo
Also, PS: I’m a writer and I wasnt a fan of Elliot. He sucks. People gotta chill😭😭
Alex on top tbh 😭😭😭, I wanted to hate him after he was sexist to me, but I couldn’t 👍🏼 (maybe that’s a me issue lol)
Elliot had SO much potential, he was betrayed by his own code - the concept of him is AMAZING, but his dialogue and that boat scene make him so unlikeable
Always played as a female farmer and Alex is my favourite, when I play I view it as he starts of sexist but then changes as a person. I'm kind of a jock myself and find his storyline to be the best and the way the sports part of his life is written is my favourite ever. Also sweetest husband ever, I'm always so charmed by his dialogue when married to him
I'm a writer too, and I find Elliot annoying af over it too ngl. I am also a woman and I LOVE Alex, he's my absolute favorite marriage candidate and I marry him as a female farmer each time. I just love me a himbo
Im so glad you liked Krobus. For future reference he likes black licorice at the movies and only loves Mysterium (one of the fall movies).
I thought he hated Mysterium? I think he said it was a bad way to show shadow people
@@hexinthelilypond4213 Yes, but in the theater wiki it's the only movie he loves, there's a section for character preferences for snacks and movies
Only male candidate: Elliot. Honestly for Females many of them work, Haley, Leah and Abigail.
I just feel that most of the male characters all suck or have worse lives if you marry them. Elliot is the only one whose life improves and he's got great conversations.
Alex is my absolute favorite of all bachelors. I can relate to him cause of the mother thing, not to get into too much detail. And I always play a male farmer, so I guess I see him change for the better more. I would even put him into S-tier, tbh :D
Dismissing Elliott as arrogant is harsh :( He's a bit out of touch, and he speaks fancy, that's it. Though I might be biased because that's EXACTLY how I was as a ND kid (and got bullied renlentlessy for it) 😅
Sebastian is neat, but he's also such a downer all the time -__-
I think the issue issue is people are relating to the character and immediately assuming because you relate to the character of the character will relate to you….. I am saying this as a ND person; just because of character traits that are similar to our does not mean that if they looked at us, our traits would be similar to theirs in their mind.
And I think it’s really asinine to say “This character is(insert thing here” like me because i relate to them and Im that! - not saying that’s what you’re doing just that its similar - because I have seen this argument about a lot of characters where someone will say “Well Im ND/Queer/whatever and I relate to this thing about this character so now that means the character is also ND/Queer/Whatever” and it is a weird correlation to me…. (i am also Queer xD)
Also not saying everyone does this ; however, I have had an awful interaction with someone who went to the worst version of this, which was to say that - nobody could ever like a specific character as much as they do because nobody could understand that character as much as they do because only they have gone through as much and similar milestones as that character
And I feel like that is as close to insanity as I will ever be ….. saying this is someone who has gotten through severe mental breaks before 😂😂
My poor Elliott 😔 he's very sweet, he is
Oh poor sweet precious summer child i wish he hadn't done you dirty like that 🥺😭💕
not Elliot being my favorite to marry haha
As someone married to Sebastian on a save currently you are so valid for your rating of him! Generally at first I can agree that there IS something missing from him but it does taken reading through his dialogues and understanding some context clues to understand what he means sometimes! He really is an extremely sweet character and when you stay married to him for long enough, you're greeted by multiple cups of coffee per week and sweet words and affirmations daily. BUT-there are better candidates than him! Thank you for the video 🎉
(PS. Also his entire arc of quitting smoking for us and giving up his want to live in the city to settle down with us at the farm is really sweet-not to mention how sassy he can be in some dialogue options post marriage ❤)
Elliot is the loml, ever since i met talked to him first. I took making him my husband VERY seriously. As an artist and someone who also doesnt do well with family, his journey spoke to me. I never thought he was pretentious coz why would a snobbish writer live in a literal SHACK on the beach when he could have more. He chose that for himself, and still loved his life. I do think hes just a bit autistic when it comes to social situations. Its been 4 ingame years and we have 2 kids, and hes the perfect husband and i love spoiling him even after so much time.
I am saying this, as somebody who is autistic don’t call characters autistic unless the fucking person who made them have said they are!!! it is so fucked up of you to say because of the way he acts it makes you think he’s autistic. I don’t care if you’re autistic too.; just because you were late to some of the shit he does doesn’t mean if he ever met you he would relate to you
God and the way you worded it makes me wanna throw up “hes just a bit autistic” ….. There is no such thing you either are or you aren’t; it’s a sliding scale on how severe your autism might be; but there is no such thing as “just a little bit autistic”
I don't know why, but the absolutely casual way with which the second Elliot is slam dunked into F tier KILLED me. This is like the second video I've ever watched from you man, keep it up
I'll be honest. Harvey isn't just my favourite candidate in the game, but probably my favourite candidate in ANY game. Like, his personalised is exactly the type I go for IRL. He's such a sweetheart.
canNOT believe you gave eliott a double f.... hes the best character because he can write fanfics of both of us making out and THEN reenact the entire thing with me, and i would deadass NOT be mad
In the heart of Stardew Valley, a world where each day blooms with the promise of discovery, Elliot’s narrative weaves through the fabric of this land, distinguished by moments that reveal his profound layers. His journey, marked by the serene and the tumultuous, invites one into a reflection on what truly elevates one soul above the rest.
Elliot’s emotional depth is beautifully showcased when he invites you to the beach, sharing his thoughts and feelings against the backdrop of the setting sun. This moment, where the sea whispers secrets only he seems to understand, reveals his deep connection to the world around him, a testament to his capacity for empathy and emotional resonance.
His intellectual pursuits come to light in his cabin, surrounded by manuscripts and books. Struggling with writer’s block, he shares his aspiration to create something meaningful, illustrating his dedication to art and the intellectual rigor it demands. This struggle, common to many but persevered by few, highlights his commitment to growth and understanding, setting him apart in a community where simpler lives are the norm.
The artistic sensibility Elliot embodies is most vividly captured in his discussions about the inspiration he draws from nature. Whether it’s the stormy sea or the tranquil forest, his ability to find beauty and stories in the natural world underscores a profound sensibility that enriches his character and his relationships.
During the 6-heart event, Elliot opens up about his fears and aspirations, a vulnerability that invites a deeper emotional connection. This moment of sharing, where he seeks understanding and support, underscores the richness of a relationship with him, built on mutual empathy and emotional exploration.
At the 8-heart event, Elliot invites the player into his creative process, sharing his latest manuscript. This act of sharing is not merely a step in his personal journey but an invitation into the intellectual intimacy that characterizes his deepest connections, offering a partnership that thrives on shared passions and pursuits.
The culmination of Elliot’s narrative arc, the 10-heart event, beautifully illustrates his growth and the depth of the bond he forms. Choosing a secluded spot, he reveals his deepest feelings, a testament to the journey he and the player have undertaken together. This moment, emblematic of trust and mutual growth, solidifies his position as a character of unmatched depth and potential for connection.
Elliot, through the tapestry of his moments and memories within Stardew Valley, emerges as a figure of unparalleled complexity and beauty. His superiority, woven through cutscenes that serve as windows into his soul, is not merely in his distinctive traits but in the journey he invites one on-a journey of emotional depth, intellectual exploration, and artistic discovery. In Elliot, one finds not just a character in a game, but a reflection of the myriad facets that make love, and life, profoundly worth pursuing.
Anyways, Elliot is S tier.
Also, the dialogue about having a crab living in his pocket is precious. His blushed expression is perfection. Elliot is king.
this whole essay and you spelled his name wrong every single time
you're telling me in 2016 people asked to marry the town drunk over the WIZARD?
If sam isn't the best im going to cry
I love how you rated their stories separately because I totally agree with Shane's ranking, makes me wish the game had an option to build true friendship and further develop those stories without having to be romantically tied to them.
I love Leah so much! Like her story, that 6 heart cutscene with the fruit, and also this one piece of dialogue that's like "we both live outside of town does that mean something?" Just had me head over heels! She is everything!!! And like, YES, thank you for appreciating my fave!!!
I always choose Elliot because he isnt annoying. He is also the most handsome and makes me coffee hahaha :D
As a person that really likes Elliot, I 100% understand and respect your opinion. I do like him, but I definitely get why lots of people can’t stand him (and poor Gus didn’t deserve that 😅)
As someone new to the stardew fandom I had zero idea people hated elliot. I literally love him. he is the first person i romanced. this is wild to me
I agree with the Haley part but not because she’s mean but because she has
✨ Character development ✨
I’m biased, but having gone Abigail, Sebastian, Haley in marriage order, I feel like Abigail and Sebastian are both a little immature? Like, they appeal most to people their age, but the older you get, the less you appreciate them
Totally agree! Id love to date seb, but it feels illegal lol.
"Emily's the fling you have when you're 21" Man, you just described my experience, I just started playing Stardew and she was my first choice for marriage. I feel called out.
My personal ranking would be this:
Love of my life: Sam
S: Maru
A: Sebastian, Haley
B: Elliott, because he's funny with his "Prince Charming-like" lines
Just friends (I tried but it felt so weird to marry them lol): Abigail, Leah, Shane, Emily, Harvey, Alex and Krobus.
Penny is not my friend since she forces you to like/want children. Don't get me wrong: I don't despise kids, I just think it's none of her business.
I love Harvey, he's sweet, nerdy and I just adore how he looks after you no matter if you play as a male or female.
Bro really disliked Penny for knowing what she wants. She wants kids, and at the point she asks, she is clearly sizing the farmer up for a potential mate.
At least he is fair to Abigail. So many people act like she is a nothing burger served with rocks.
I hate penny for one reason shes rude when she doesnt like something you can just say its not your thing girl, no need to be rude 😂 plus my fiancee married her in the game i was salty as a joke and married shane 😂
Honestly I can relate to the tier list. But for some gosh darn reason i think emily is realllly boring because she is just to quirky for my taste, but sam and abigail and leah, also haley on the other hand are all the love of my life
Emily is a early 2010s manic pixie dream girl ik?
@@athenasimp9928 Yes you are right
I've never played Stardew! Just love Nino's content! Thought this was an old video...14 minutes ago!! Damn, let's do this.
You made me realize this was recent too lmao
I like Shane the best because his life genuinely gets so much better with the main character
Agreed!
Shane and Leah are my favorite choices for spouses.
The only thing I don't like about Shane, and this has nothing to do with his character, but is actually one of the extremely few things Concerned Ape seemed to have overlooked, is that beer still remains one of his favorite gifts to receive, even if he promised to give up on alcohol to the player.
@@EinFritzMitX YES
I will stand by Sam being best husband for as long as I live ^^
Also I'm on the side of the fandom that likes Elliott but I understand why people dislike him...
You should marry all the spouses with Stardew Valley Expanded installed and see how you rate them also!
tldr; *My top 3 S tiers are Harvey, Sam and Leah*
I started playing Stardew because my sister said that Harvey was like my boyfrfiend irl (also the game seemed generally cool -I love it now) Harvey is in my S tier for so many reasons, he's so sweet and so romantic in his own ways and I love that about him on top of the spouse roles for gameplay ie. food gifts, watering crops/feeding animals.
Never thought I'd like Sam, but oh my gosh after another playthrough I gave him a chance and was SWOONED - also sweet and his 10 heart? Sweet and spicy lol but his character development and genuine kindness and fun loving sense to him really got me
Leah - she is so cool and I really like getting to know her and running into her by accident most of the time. I think she's lovely, down to earth and has a great story not too dissimilar to the farmers. Love the heart event with her and Marnie haha (I haven't married her but I feel like she and the farmer would make a cozy twosome)
Yall gotta stop bullying Harvey for game mechanics he can’t control 😭 my mans is done dirty all the time he’s the sweetest he gives me truffle oil massages and makes me complete breakfasts
Genuinely do not understand people who hate on Elliott. He's incredibly romantic and supportive as a partner. His married dialogue is swoon worthy and he's got the sweetest 14 heart event. All the other male candidates pale in comparison.
It'd be a different story if the game was made during the Fabio craze
Haley was truly your enemy to lover arc
I married Leah in my first playthrough 💕 I'm now wooing Haley🥰🥰🥰 I wish my farmer could have hair as golden as hers...
so real on the hair thing, like you cannot get nice bright or pastel colors! it's all muddy and dull :(
also leah and haley w
@@CrowLady0_0 Ikr?? I also want to do pastel pink hair (like Sophia’s in expanded) 🥺🩷
@@hollyclare_ yes! i have pink hair irl and it's sooo hard to match the color :(
i use a very bright reddish pink in game and it's fiiiine.. i wonder if there's a mod for the hair colors.. maybe i should learn how to mod my game
@@CrowLady0_0 I highly recommend using mods! The initial set up of smapi is a bit fiddly. I used online guides/videos. But once done, adding and taking away mods is very easy. I haven't got one for hair colour tho - will need to do some searching! 💕
Harvey is the BEST, so lovely, caring and he is an amazing dad. ❤
Still pissed that Shane got voted over the Wizard in being a marriage candidate. 🙄
I would agree on most of these. My changes would be that Sam is love of my life tier. He has some other great dialogue that I don't think you've seen. Like he knows about his mother being secretly unhappy, and he tells you about his dad pacing the halls at night but refusing to talk to Sam or Jody about his PTSD. He worries about Vincent in sweet ways, and he's a great dad. And Sam grows even further as a character in his summit dialogue, which gets me right in the heart.
“I feel like I've changed a lot from when we first met... you know? ...you might call it 'maturity'... hehe. But I'm at a place, now, where I'm actually really excited about our future together.. Even if that means just doing normal stuff, like... uh... buying groceries and changing diapers... hah...”
He's grown up so much, and he basically gave us the Waymond Wang "laundry and taxes" line years before Everything, Everywhere, All at Once was made. Sam looking forward to even the mundane or unpleasant parts of life in his future with the player strikes me as far more romantic than any of Elliott's flowery declarations.
My other switches would be Haley to A. Harvey to B. Elliott to C, because I enjoy his book and don't mind the questionable boat scene. And Seb down to F for me. (Seb has some solid heart events, but I feel like he's too emotionally distant for me. He's always talking about space of his own, and it really irks me that he doesn't even try to offer the player any kind of meal. Sam and Shane can't cook, but they still make an effort. Shane will make you pepper poppers or pizza. After seeing how Jody reacts to a dropped egg, it's no surprise Sam can't cook, but he still makes instant pancakes and heats pizzas for us. Sebastian on the other hand has dialogue where he talks about heating a pizza just for himself, and he never thinks of the player. It bugs me how emotionally unavailable he seems even after marriage. )
Rank each Stardew couple, including fandoms. Sam and Sebastian for the win
The build up to you INSTANTLY yeeting Elliot into F tier. It made me laugh so hard. XD
...OH MY GOSH, KROBUS IS ADORABLE!
Shane was the first marriage candidate that i ever married and I don't regret it
6:21 WE WERE SO CLOSE TO BEING A HERMIT IN THE WOODS WITH A WIZARD HUSBAND 😫
My first file I married Alex. Yes, I found him sexist at first, but his heart events won me over. And his married dialogue at the winter star event. 😍 Although, I think Hayley says the same thing.
Didn't Alex say he didn't donate his perfectly new shoes to charity because he didn't like the idea of some stranger wearing his shoes?
I married Alex (male player) in my first ever stardew save and only found out about the female player dialogue after but at that point I was emotionally invested. I completely agree with basically everything you said about him
Great video, Krobus is a def fave. My man, Shane, was done dirty. But he is simply misunderstood. The fact that he’s a guy struggling with mental health, but overcomes it, and he loves animals, whilst also being a dorky gamer, just makes my heart happy. It feels like you actually get to bond with him. Krobus is just the most wholesome little guy. I hope he gets the world.
you get it!!!!
Putting leah in the s tier is the most factual most true thing you did
every negative thing people accuse Elliot of being, his stans actually are
I don’t play Stardew Valley much, but I have a save file where I’m a girl and I’m going after Abigail and one of her cutscenes just got me. I do find it annoying that there’s only two gender options for the character though
Wdym?
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@@kitox9117 nonbinary
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@@kitox9117 they probably meant that the farmer can't be any other gender then m or f, plus this is how sexuality is "calculated" in the game
nino being SO distraught about krobus not touching his apple slices made me LOSE it