Ooofffffff Elliott the love of my life,, the reason I actually bought Stardew... (Originally trialled it on the switch, immediately fell for Elliott and bought the game outright, and played until 2am to get to the point that Elliott loved me too.) I like him because hes an artistic free spirit. He ticks a *lot* of my aesthetic boxes tbh (long haired boys are my *jam*) and just. You're a starving tortured artist, Elly? Me too! Lets brainstorm in the corner. Even outside of dating him, he dedicates his novel to you because of the support youve given him in being able to complete his dream. As someone who struggles with getting my thoughts down, thats... so sweet? Ive never struggled in getting to the point of dating him either? With the bat cave you can get pomegranates quite early, as well as just. "Hello heres some fresh vegetables. Heres a shell i picked up outside your house. Heres some trout soup thats sold a short distance from your shack. I learned to make cheese would you like some." Couple of gifts every week and you're dating by his birthday. Also he seems a little? Oblivious and silly to me? Which tbh i just find charming. "Oh i seem to have a crab in my pocket" "im using seawater to water my rose why isnt it growing" "I didnt know if you could love another man" LOVE OF MY LIFE I GAVE YOU THE BOUQUET AND IVE BEEN SAYING I LOVE YOU SINCE DAY ONE. You can compliment him and hell think its just that, he wont realise that youre flirting. A little oblivious, like me, and i like that. Also hed just be so doting about any insecurities you might have. You think you're stinky from farm work? "Its your natural musk!
Finally someone who gets it! I just don’t see how people can hate Elliot so severely. He’s so charming. He’s actually nice off the bat instead of bullying you like some other options. He loves deeply and just wants happiness. I wont go on since you summed it all up perfectly. Like… F tier? Really?! Sweet Elliot trying his best, ranking below Haley and Shane who are initially verbally abusive?! I cannot fathom it. Nope. Nope. Nope.
@@Seal_pup I can understand people having different types, preferring the character development that goes into a character that initially doesn't like you. I.. guess I get that? Different horses for different courses, I guess, I'm not gonna shame anyone for liking tsunderes. I'll admit, Shane's always my best friend, because as someone with mental health problems I do like stories of people finding others who encourage them to better themselves. But it's the fact for me that just. He's universally panned and everyone just kind of. "He's a snobby artist looking down his nose at you and it's a punishment to talk to him." Like... no? He's kind of silly and oblivious sometimes, a little preoccupied with his creative thoughts sometimes, but that doesn't mean he thinks that he's better than you?? I just think that a lot of people don't give Elliott his fair shake. Also he's the only bachelor you can compete against in the winter ice fishing contest? And if you're married he literally says he doesn't expect to win against you bit he's going to compete anyway. For the sake of it. He's sweet. Also, the relationship between him and Willy is super underrated. Willy 100% takes him under his wing, and that's super sweet. Just. Idk man. People sleep on Elliott. He's a really doting husband.
So glad I'm not the only one harboring Elliott love. All the cons others see, I see in a different light. Maybe that's what makes him my special lil soulmate ❤
I am a hardcore Elliott fan. He's a dork, he's poetic, he's not afraid to be deeply in his feelings about things. The moment he says "oh a little crab is in my pocket" I knew I was gone for him. Even now, I'm trying to marry different spouses but I miss him. Genuinely, I keep ducks and grow pomegranates and can't explain why I always feel wistful at the beach. And his marriage heart event is so touching. He's going out into the world, but he misses you so much. He's so thoughtful and gentle and he makes me feel safe. I've never understood the hate for him - when people love other characters despite their flaws.
@@Sanisgillon you get me. That marriage event is so fucking sweet, writing to you as he's achieving his dream because even as he's getting it, he misses you. He's such a sweet guy.
My Only qualm is Elliott in the F tier. I’m not sure how good he is at expressing his love. He is a little self focused. But he’s also fine to let you run about your farm, and likes to see how it’s coming along. He is very different from the farmer. But he works well with them. He goes to the beach to reminisce and listen to the waves. He writes or wanders the house. He is distant, but he’s aware he’s distant. He asks, “will you be alright without my help?” And suggests in his letter to take food to the mines because they are dangerous. He left crab cakes in the fridge for me for food while he was gone. His favorite food. He left. For us. Because it’s a good food (stat wise.) so, selfish as he seems, he also makes it clear he loves the farmer. He wants them to be safe and happy just as he is. He… trusts you. I think he lives with a front on, a protective front of fearless confidence and flourish. But I think deep down, he fears rejection, from people he is close to, just like what he received in the past. But as a writer myself, I deeply achingly empathize with his arc. Feeling weird as people beg for an autograph, going on book tours, getting fan mail… yet you know you’re really just a normal person. It’s this pedestal of fame, people see you as some sort of hero. But you’re just you. Thats scary. And you gotta learn how to still be normal and leave your mask of perfection Off. it’s hard to forget what everyone thinks of you and just press ahead. Even when all feedback is positive, it’s scary. You really need one person who genuinely believes in you and loves you. One person who believes in you but sees you first and foremost as a “normal” person. You can trust them. It’s a slow, dry death without that person. 💔I know what it’s like to write alone. It all but kill’s you.
alex is by himbo husband, but i'm also gay so i got the really sweet discovering of his sexuality stuff instead of the thinly veiled misogyny, so that may be a factor lol
I am a girl, but I've only ever played through as a guy and ADORED alex. I recently heard about the uncomfortable misogyny when playing as a girl, which was such a shock tbh, so I feel that
@@PeriwinkleRoseYT that explains a lot, thank for your answer... How about just explaining it, because I have not gotten to Alex in the vid and I don't see how being attracted to another sex makes you sexist.
Haley best girl. Character development is a good 😭 she slowly starts telling you you smell like dirt but she doesn’t mind it. then that likes animals. that she imagines working with them. then the photo with the cows is so cutesee
I think that Alex and Haylee should fittingly be on the same tier. They both come off as rude and mean but get better as you get to know them. And while it doesn't necessarily justify what he says Alex does have an explanation for why he is always so proud and arrogant and how he cares so much sbout what people think of him. He always needs to prove his worth in an attempt to show that he is better than ehat his father always made him out to be. In comparison while Haley does have a nice arc still comes off as really rude at the start without having really a reason to do so ? Like she is just awfully rude for no reason other thsn she doesn't rrally like Pelican town and wants to leave at the start. I like her development just like alex's when you date him as a guy but I don' know shr just calls you ugly and disgusting by attempting to talking to her. She also just flat out insults you if she doesn't like/hate a gift you give her Imo that makes her less redeemable. Either way they are comparable and should be ranked the same imo but I know that Haley is the community's Baby so this might come off as controversial. Either way great vid !
I totally agree. I honestly feel like Alex's storyline was a lot more well thought out than Haley and even a lot of the other marriage candidates because his progression from being a stand-offish, kinda jerk, to an actually emotionally venerable and kind person felt very natural. When I played SDV for the first time I wasn't really interested in romancing any character cause non of them were very appealing to me in the beginning, so the heart cutscenes were always very spread out in my play through for all marriage candidates. The only one that I found really being able to notice a consistent change in behavior and substantial character development was Alex, and each heart event was able to highlight this shift in personality. Alex was like the only one I ended up feeling attached to because his struggles were heartbreaking and honestly relatable and human. He literally was my least favorite character because of his attitude and comments but then he grew into my favorite.
Elliott won me over after i talked to Alex who said, "oh youre here to see me. Makes sense." Then i talked to Elliott and he also said, "oh youre here to see me" but then followed it up with "im honored!" So am i knockoff team rocket James in a marching band uniform. So am i 😍🥰
Really enjoyed the way you outlined your thought process, one thing on Alex though. He is (as far as I know) the only character to directly mention his initial struggles over having feelings for another male farmer but actually develops over time and I find that adds a whole other layer to his personality. This is especially true when marrying him (as a guy) causes Geroge to literally say he originally thought it was "unnatural". Obviously limited only to male farmers but an interesting character act that feels quite unique.
It honestly gave me the vibe that Alex was meant to marry the male character, it just feels like he isn’t as interested in the girl character - which I like! I believe that Alex is the gay guy who was never allowed to explore that part of himself (obviously, because George) and so feels obligated be a dude’s dude, so when romancing him as a guy, you see more authentic character development ❤
OMG you're so right! I don't know how I didn't think of that because fruits basket is like my favourite anime but holy shit the dub voice is so Elliot! also the personality though I like Ayame more than I like Elliot
He's a bushel of 🟩 flags. He's kind, mature, dependable, emotionally stable, educated, and works as a doctor. It's actually kind of bonkers that Shane and Sebastian are so much more popular than him.
My Only qualm is Elliott in the F tier. I’m not sure how good he is at expressing his love. He is a little second focused. But he’s also fine to let you run about your farm and likes to see how it’s coming along. He is very different from the farmer. But he works well with them. I think he lives with a front on, a protective front of fearless confidence and flourish. But I think feel down, he fears rejection, from people he is close to, just like what he received in the past. But as a writer myself, I deeply achingly empathize with his arc. Feeling weird as people beg for an autograph, going on book tours, getting fan mail… yet you know you’re really just a normal person. It’s this pedestal of fame, people see you as some sort of hero. But you’re just you. Thats scary. And you gotta learn how to still be normal and leave your mask of perfection Off. it’s hard to forget what everyone thinks of you and just press ahead. Even when all feedback is positive, it’s scary. You really need one person who genuinely believes in you and loves you. It’s a slow, dry death without that person. 💔
I like Harvey a lot. Because his maturity and responsibility is what I want to be. Plus he has nerdy interests he really enjoys that I relate to (albeit my interests are very different from his). And as someone going into a scientific field that overlaps a lot with medicine (microbiology) I really enjoy his role in the village. I also like Maru's scientific interest, but its less adjacent to my preferred field of science. Plus I'm more attacted to men than women. Sorry Maru. "Double wammy of mommy and daddy issues. Oof." Okay that got me to chuckle.
Opinions are subjective, and my subjective opinion is that all you said about Krobus is objectively true and everyone who disagrees is in denial because they can't fathom Krobus' flawlessness. Keep up the good work!
A lot of people talk about Haley and Shane being outright rude to you at first but to be fair... 1. Sebastian is also very standoffish and he is just as difficult to see as Leah and Elliot 2. Pierre just sees you as a walking check. Least favorite villager by far. At least Morris is funny in a cartoonish villain way. 3. You do have to walk on eggshells with Penny. 4. While Demetrius may be coded as on the spectrum, his relationship with Maru and scenes with Robin just turns me all the way off. Like I don’t enjoy getting my hearts up with him. 5. Clint... Clint. I'm sure it's his anxiety but he toes the line between asocial and creep. 6. Lewis no one cares if you date Marnie! Honestly good for you. Now stop embezzling town funds! But on a more serious note I feel like if Sebby is in A tier then Haley can be moved up just on the strength of her growth alone. And I think Alex can move to B ONLY if you play as a male farmer, as his grandfather will become much more accepting of you and queer identifying people as a whole.
@@meganoreo1839i think they meant that seb is a bit standoffish at the beginning. but we all know he isn't really cold, unfriendly nor distant because he is actually a marshmallow inside, soft and just silly. "standoffish" is rather his first impression. but he isn't as standoffish as shane, shane's a perfect example for that word
Honestly, I love Shane. hear me out: not because i want to “fix him,” just cuz i can relate to his struggles. I wished someone was there for me when i was struggling (despite how bitchy i was). so idk i guess my approach to marrying or dating him is i don’t care if he does or doesn’t change. i just wanna be there for him no matter what he’s going through🤗 also he’s totally the type to dominate and be a freak in the sheets🤭
I married him pre-1.6 and loved it. Married him post-1.6 and he honestly seems less lovey even at 14 hearts 😢 to the point I decided to divorce 😭 actually came to this video to vet a new partner
So even though Sebastian is my absolute favourite and I love him to the moon and back I do have to agree that Krobus totally deserves the S(ewer) tier! He just feels like such a nice companion to have and the way he helps around is also a great perk. And btw I love your tierlist and the overall aesthetic, you did such a great job with that!
SHANE NEEDS A REAL REWORK, he could have been our best boy but they dont write him to actually commit to his arc. He could be our best boy but we need them to rewrite his post marriage dialog and even maybe his 14 heart even where you HAVE to accuse him of drinking.
I actually think his arc and dialogue (pre and post marriage) is very accurate to a depressed recovering alcoholic. Marriage won't fix those things, unfortunately. I think the 14 heart event is supposed to kind of suggest a future in which he's slowly finding outlets of joy outside from alcohol, which is a struggle by itself when one deals with depression, let alone alcohol addiction. He deserves all the love and support. Just not from me bc he doesn't seem to give enough kisses during marriage after the 1.6 update 😂 I live for the cute interactions
I was going to say "Where's Krobus?" XD Edit: personally, I am Aro so I didn't know I still could have the benefits of having a partner but being a housemate instead. Thanks to the two people who let me know that fact and I will be having Krobus moving in this weekend on stream o3o
As much as I want Krobus on here just so he could go into S tier, I understand. Good video though, that’s a sub. Edit: I had to take some deep breaths after she put Emily at B, almost A. Edit 2: CRIST ON A KRISPY KREME KROBUS WAS ON THERE FORGIVE ME GOD FOR I HAVE SINNED PLEASE!!!
I respect your opinion... For me tho Alex is the first person I married and ive had to stop myself from marrying him every new play through I start cuz I wanted to see other characters storylines(I still did marry him 3 more times tho)... So for me he goes in S tier!
Thinking about it I get your rankings Elliot becoming more dependant on you when you marry him is something I never noticed but makes so much sense when you realize that his only friends were Leah and Willy, and Willy is likely only because he lives on the beach too. The farm is more reclusive than his beach cabin. Elliot just needs more friends and going to the farm doesn't help that at all. As a guy marrying Alex feels like a completely different experience compared to what I've heard from female players so I can get his ranking. Though personally for me he's higher Maru's only flaw is her father. Queen Maru might seem stagnant but she has her life together unlike most of the people running around here. Just wish there was more thought put into her post marriage because- Yeah- She doesn't seem to do a lot of tinkering or make good on her automation idea anymore. And I'm glad you weren't too harsh on Shane because he isn't "fixable" because I see a lot of that in the community (UnsurpassableZ didn't help before he left, Jesus) so knowing that despite his flaws he's not the lowest makes me happy
I respect the places everyone is in this tier list. Pretty much the same thing I had in my head. My girl Leah in A Tier but I’m totally fine with Krobus in the higher tier lol. Great video!
Leah and Sebastian in "A" tier is so perfect, they are my two favorites in the game and i would do everything and anything for them. however krobus will always be number one :3
As an Emily fan, I’m so glad you don’t hate her cuz she’s “too nice”. LIKE THATS THE WORST EXCUSE IVE EVER HEARD LIKE WHAT???? (I’m also playing for the first time lol)
I feel offended by abigail almost a c tiee, i marry her in almost every save files. Only other character i married is leah on my forest farm because i think she fit perfectly with forest environtment😂
That's the struggle with alcoholism though. They call it a disease for a reason. Love and marriage won't fix it. It takes mental health treatment and sometimes actual medical treatment (there's medication to help correct the addiction - I have family members who had to take it). Talking about Shane so often in this video comment thread just made me realize he's the closest to a "disabled" character we get outside of George. It would be cool af if ConcernedApe added characters that represent more minorities of every variety 😅 look at me asking for more immediately after 1.6
I watched your entire video. I really liked it. I am a bit sad at how hard you are with Harvey. He is so kind with helping Shane. And just kind in general. Now with Sebastian, he is usually my husband. He is an S Tier for me hands down. I try to pick someone new, but he woes me and I am his again. LOL ❤😊
I'm ranking this S teir, as I am in year 2 and doing stardew research and this is giving everything I need and more to find out what is going on in pelican town. for real though great video and keep this up!
@@ElfinHat96True. He underestimates the player alot like saying you're not strong enough as a man and as a girl, you're either weak or you can't "throw". plus there's no sparks in your relationship when you got to marry him. he's a boring stereotypical jock. sorry, not sorry
@@soniamelo6366 Underrated is a positive term tho. There's no spark when you marry him? I bought the game when I've seen his dialogue after marriage on some reddit post.
Personaly, i love Elliot. He is always my first choise, and i don't think that he thinks his better. He even say that he wish he can become a farmer. And Alex. At first i don't like him. He just was. But his history? Romancing him as a male farmer? His ten hearts event? I very like him. And Haley at B when Alex D? ..why? Theyre pretty.. similar?
Thanks. I’m not going to marry anyone because I’ve heard marriage dulls down the characters a lot (and also because Krobus supremacy), but I also want to get close to these people…without getting Saloon Scene’d (or, I guess Kitchen Scene’d. I personally like women, and the only male character that piques my interest is Harvey.)
I did a tier list for myself apparently right when this came out and I can't wait to see how your opinion differs from mine lol. I separated mine into "Yes, always, love of my life(literally just Harvey)" "Serious contenders/if I wanna be gay for this run" "Friendzoned(bachelors I only see as friends) "Not worth hunting you down(Seb/Elliot) and "Never again you broke my heart(SHANE.)" It'll be interesting to see who you put in the top tier but I can tell from the comments you already agree with me about Elliott :P (the first time I married Shane I was so disappointed in who he becomes after marriage I divorced him and married Leah two days later LIKE HE DESERVED.) editing this bc I just got to the Haley section. Her heart events are what gave her a very special tier for me next to Harvey - the Best Friend tier. She's so misunderstood by the community and everyone always seems to judge her based on the first few interactions which is like... the entire point of her character is to not judge a book by its cover. She doesn't really change but she does show there's a *reason* behind how she acts and that underneath the surface there's this wonderful and kind human being. I appreciate the heck out of it. I always go out of my way to max my friendship with her now just because I want to see those heart events and be her BFF. Criminally misunderstood character imo editedit: Oh my god you absolutely ASSASSINATED my boy. Everything you dislike about Harvey is everything I **LOVE** about him. He's mature, responsible, has a job that proves he's kind and compassionate, and has a silly little hobby that he absolutely adores no matter what. The single way to his heart is through straight black coffee and that alone makes me love him. He's everything I look for in an IRL partner and I can't help but love him for that. kay I'm just finishing the Shane section now and you really hit the nail on the head - I'd just add that it's realistic. The only redeeming part of this part of Shane is that it absolutely reflects what can happen in real life. He finds someone that gives him hope and falls in love, making the effort to improve for them. Then they get married, and he gets complacent, and he starts losing all the drive to self improve that he had before. I've... watched this happen to people. I hate seeing it, and I'll never romance Shane again if just because marrying him seems to ruin his life. You can be friendzoned forever because it's clearly what's best for you, my darling potential prince.
So relieved cause when I saw Shane be the last one after Seb not making it to S tier I thought you were placing Shane in the S tier. Krobus really deserves it. 5/5 video. So far I married Emily on my first and second save files, Penny on the third for the strawberry furniture and on my current save file I'm marrying Leah
Ima put Harvey in A, He was a man with dreams of being a pilot but God said NO from the get go, something about this really stuck with me, it's so unfair But he marched on lived his life and eventually found something else to love Sure it's not 'current' character development that we get to experience, but from gathering context in his story he went through alot Even tho I married Seb first run, my taste changed over years, i guess i don't wanna marry him again anymore I wanna write my own list here My list of Bachelor/Bachelorette I will mary in game Top 1: Lacey the hat mouse (Mod) That's it, Honorable mentions Caroline (Mod), Harvey I love the Graphics in this video
I married Sam for his childish personality. I like how he doesn't force himself to do things. I grew up acting as an adult as a child, therefore, I love Sam because of how carefree he can be. I'm actually kind of guilty because I married him at such an early stage, lol. Still, he's responsible enough to love me and the kids without losing his childish personality. So stop with these tiers, all bachelor and bachelorette has their own ups and downs. I also noticed how biased you sound towards Sebby, just because he's your type, despite his red flags, lol. All of them are beautiful in the right eyes. And ranking is literally useless if you include your own preconceptions.
From a different country, Turkiye. I am from Turkye and you can be the best Stardew player. So if you can make a video (I'm not talking about shorts) every week or once every 2 weeks it will be perfect.
marrying alex makes more sense if your player is a male. is just weird to be married to him and still have his casual sexism, but if your character is a guy, it looks way more like he's closet and with internalized homophobia (that generally comes with toxic masculinity etc
I think that not everything is bad with Shane. I think that the true story of him is in heart events and his room is just a reminder of his past. I do get a feeling that he is not really regresing, because changing is hard and in his situation, I think, he suffered too much to be redeemed in a short time
I've never met someone with such different taste than me. I hated nearly every review you gave to the characters. Great video!
Except Leah
Same...
😂 made me mad as well, but love hearing the opinion of someone else so committed to the game
My God same, the fact that Elliott ranked last desveres no like lol. It's unforgivable.
Krobus is the best "marriage" option. 🖤
He’s very underrated in my opinion. 😝
Yeah he's so cute but not technically a bachelor
Purr💅💅
Hes not because he isnt a marriage option
@@Blogarian-studios did you not see the parenthesis? If you give him a special item he will move in with you.
Ooofffffff Elliott the love of my life,, the reason I actually bought Stardew...
(Originally trialled it on the switch, immediately fell for Elliott and bought the game outright, and played until 2am to get to the point that Elliott loved me too.)
I like him because hes an artistic free spirit. He ticks a *lot* of my aesthetic boxes tbh (long haired boys are my *jam*) and just. You're a starving tortured artist, Elly? Me too! Lets brainstorm in the corner.
Even outside of dating him, he dedicates his novel to you because of the support youve given him in being able to complete his dream. As someone who struggles with getting my thoughts down, thats... so sweet?
Ive never struggled in getting to the point of dating him either? With the bat cave you can get pomegranates quite early, as well as just. "Hello heres some fresh vegetables. Heres a shell i picked up outside your house. Heres some trout soup thats sold a short distance from your shack. I learned to make cheese would you like some." Couple of gifts every week and you're dating by his birthday.
Also he seems a little? Oblivious and silly to me? Which tbh i just find charming. "Oh i seem to have a crab in my pocket" "im using seawater to water my rose why isnt it growing" "I didnt know if you could love another man" LOVE OF MY LIFE I GAVE YOU THE BOUQUET AND IVE BEEN SAYING I LOVE YOU SINCE DAY ONE. You can compliment him and hell think its just that, he wont realise that youre flirting. A little oblivious, like me, and i like that.
Also hed just be so doting about any insecurities you might have. You think you're stinky from farm work? "Its your natural musk!
Finally someone who gets it! I just don’t see how people can hate Elliot so severely. He’s so charming. He’s actually nice off the bat instead of bullying you like some other options. He loves deeply and just wants happiness. I wont go on since you summed it all up perfectly.
Like… F tier? Really?! Sweet Elliot trying his best, ranking below Haley and Shane who are initially verbally abusive?! I cannot fathom it. Nope. Nope. Nope.
@@Seal_pup I can understand people having different types, preferring the character development that goes into a character that initially doesn't like you. I.. guess I get that? Different horses for different courses, I guess, I'm not gonna shame anyone for liking tsunderes. I'll admit, Shane's always my best friend, because as someone with mental health problems I do like stories of people finding others who encourage them to better themselves.
But it's the fact for me that just. He's universally panned and everyone just kind of. "He's a snobby artist looking down his nose at you and it's a punishment to talk to him." Like... no? He's kind of silly and oblivious sometimes, a little preoccupied with his creative thoughts sometimes, but that doesn't mean he thinks that he's better than you?? I just think that a lot of people don't give Elliott his fair shake.
Also he's the only bachelor you can compete against in the winter ice fishing contest? And if you're married he literally says he doesn't expect to win against you bit he's going to compete anyway. For the sake of it. He's sweet.
Also, the relationship between him and Willy is super underrated. Willy 100% takes him under his wing, and that's super sweet. Just. Idk man. People sleep on Elliott. He's a really doting husband.
So glad I'm not the only one harboring Elliott love. All the cons others see, I see in a different light. Maybe that's what makes him my special lil soulmate ❤
I am a hardcore Elliott fan. He's a dork, he's poetic, he's not afraid to be deeply in his feelings about things. The moment he says "oh a little crab is in my pocket" I knew I was gone for him. Even now, I'm trying to marry different spouses but I miss him. Genuinely, I keep ducks and grow pomegranates and can't explain why I always feel wistful at the beach.
And his marriage heart event is so touching. He's going out into the world, but he misses you so much. He's so thoughtful and gentle and he makes me feel safe. I've never understood the hate for him - when people love other characters despite their flaws.
@@Sanisgillon you get me. That marriage event is so fucking sweet, writing to you as he's achieving his dream because even as he's getting it, he misses you. He's such a sweet guy.
This is the most unique tier list I’ve ever scene!! I love how you organized this!!
Wow, thank you!🥰
My Only qualm is Elliott in the F tier. I’m not sure how good he is at expressing his love. He is a little self focused. But he’s also fine to let you run about your farm, and likes to see how it’s coming along. He is very different from the farmer. But he works well with them.
He goes to the beach to reminisce and listen to the waves. He writes or wanders the house. He is distant, but he’s aware he’s distant. He asks, “will you be alright without my help?” And suggests in his letter to take food to the mines because they are dangerous. He left crab cakes in the fridge for me for food while he was gone. His favorite food. He left. For us. Because it’s a good food (stat wise.) so, selfish as he seems, he also makes it clear he loves the farmer. He wants them to be safe and happy just as he is. He… trusts you.
I think he lives with a front on, a protective front of fearless confidence and flourish. But I think deep down, he fears rejection, from people he is close to, just like what he received in the past. But as a writer myself, I deeply achingly empathize with his arc. Feeling weird as people beg for an autograph, going on book tours, getting fan mail… yet you know you’re really just a normal person. It’s this pedestal of fame, people see you as some sort of hero. But you’re just you.
Thats scary. And you gotta learn how to still be normal and leave your mask of perfection Off. it’s hard to forget what everyone thinks of you and just press ahead. Even when all feedback is positive, it’s scary. You really need one person who genuinely believes in you and loves you. One person who believes in you but sees you first and foremost as a “normal” person. You can trust them. It’s a slow, dry death without that person. 💔I know what it’s like to write alone. It all but kill’s you.
alex is by himbo husband, but i'm also gay so i got the really sweet discovering of his sexuality stuff instead of the thinly veiled misogyny, so that may be a factor lol
I am a girl, but I've only ever played through as a guy and ADORED alex. I recently heard about the uncomfortable misogyny when playing as a girl, which was such a shock tbh, so I feel that
Blame George's influence on that.
i am also gay :3 but i really despised alex playing through bc he is a himbo
@@loveisN0Tintheairx You don't like dorks? :C
@@ElfinHat96 no im sorry :3 dorks aint my type
Don’t forget the sexism if you’re female when you talk to Alex in the beginning (saying things like “if you weren’t a girl”)
How is that sexism?
@@KaptajnKaffe …
@@PeriwinkleRoseYT that explains a lot, thank for your answer...
How about just explaining it, because I have not gotten to Alex in the vid and I don't see how being attracted to another sex makes you sexist.
@@PeriwinkleRoseYT I even watched the Alex part and it did not explain it!
@@KaptajnKaffe he makes remarks such as “girls aren’t as strong as men” and “girls can’t throw”
Me knowing Elliott is going to be low on the list: 😔
Also me knowing that just means more for myself: 😁
how is someone who is responsible, warm, and smart a 2/5 while a spoiled and self absorbed person is a 5???
The format for your content is seriously good, hope you're proud of your work!
This is so kind.🥹 Thank you!🥹💜
Haley best girl. Character development is a good 😭 she slowly starts telling you you smell like dirt but she doesn’t mind it. then that likes animals. that she imagines working with them. then the photo with the cows is so cutesee
I think that Alex and Haylee should fittingly be on the same tier.
They both come off as rude and mean but get better as you get to know them.
And while it doesn't necessarily justify what he says Alex does have an explanation for why he is always so proud and arrogant and how he cares so much sbout what people think of him.
He always needs to prove his worth in an attempt to show that he is better than ehat his father always made him out to be.
In comparison while Haley does have a nice arc still comes off as really rude at the start without having really a reason to do so ? Like she is just awfully rude for no reason other thsn she doesn't rrally like Pelican town and wants to leave at the start. I like her development just like alex's when you date him as a guy but I don' know shr just calls you ugly and disgusting by attempting to talking to her.
She also just flat out insults you if she doesn't like/hate a gift you give her
Imo that makes her less redeemable.
Either way they are comparable and should be ranked the same imo but I know that Haley is the community's Baby so this might come off as controversial.
Either way great vid !
I totally agree. I honestly feel like Alex's storyline was a lot more well thought out than Haley and even a lot of the other marriage candidates because his progression from being a stand-offish, kinda jerk, to an actually emotionally venerable and kind person felt very natural. When I played SDV for the first time I wasn't really interested in romancing any character cause non of them were very appealing to me in the beginning, so the heart cutscenes were always very spread out in my play through for all marriage candidates. The only one that I found really being able to notice a consistent change in behavior and substantial character development was Alex, and each heart event was able to highlight this shift in personality. Alex was like the only one I ended up feeling attached to because his struggles were heartbreaking and honestly relatable and human. He literally was my least favorite character because of his attitude and comments but then he grew into my favorite.
Elliott won me over after i talked to Alex who said, "oh youre here to see me. Makes sense." Then i talked to Elliott and he also said, "oh youre here to see me" but then followed it up with "im honored!"
So am i knockoff team rocket James in a marching band uniform. So am i 😍🥰
Really enjoyed the way you outlined your thought process, one thing on Alex though.
He is (as far as I know) the only character to directly mention his initial struggles over having feelings for another male farmer but actually develops over time and I find that adds a whole other layer to his personality. This is especially true when marrying him (as a guy) causes Geroge to literally say he originally thought it was "unnatural".
Obviously limited only to male farmers but an interesting character act that feels quite unique.
It honestly gave me the vibe that Alex was meant to marry the male character, it just feels like he isn’t as interested in the girl character - which I like! I believe that Alex is the gay guy who was never allowed to explore that part of himself (obviously, because George) and so feels obligated be a dude’s dude, so when romancing him as a guy, you see more authentic character development ❤
@orgeuillealkali that's really interesting, it definitely does feel like his storyline with the male character is much more fleshed out and impactful
Elliot, in my headcannon, reminds me of Ayame from Fruits Basket (specifically the English dub). Dramatic & Adorable.
OMG you're so right! I don't know how I didn't think of that because fruits basket is like my favourite anime but holy shit the dub voice is so Elliot! also the personality though I like Ayame more than I like Elliot
I imagine in my headcanon that he sounds like nephrite from sailor moon(new dub) and looks like him if he actually got a chance to reform.
the Krobus Tier, so nice to see people liking Krobus
His gifts are op compared to other candidates too ngl
highly shocked at the lack of Harvey appreciation in the comments, i couldn’t imagine not liking his vibes
He's a bushel of 🟩 flags. He's kind, mature, dependable, emotionally stable, educated, and works as a doctor. It's actually kind of bonkers that Shane and Sebastian are so much more popular than him.
They just don’t understand, he’ll get his justice though. 😌😌
hes my pathetic little pookie i love him
YES
@@IAmTheStig32 say it louder for the people in the back!!!
My Only qualm is Elliott in the F tier. I’m not sure how good he is at expressing his love. He is a little second focused. But he’s also fine to let you run about your farm and likes to see how it’s coming along. He is very different from the farmer. But he works well with them. I think he lives with a front on, a protective front of fearless confidence and flourish. But I think feel down, he fears rejection, from people he is close to, just like what he received in the past. But as a writer myself, I deeply achingly empathize with his arc. Feeling weird as people beg for an autograph, going on book tours, getting fan mail… yet you know you’re really just a normal person. It’s this pedestal of fame, people see you as some sort of hero. But you’re just you.
Thats scary. And you gotta learn how to still be normal and leave your mask of perfection Off. it’s hard to forget what everyone thinks of you and just press ahead. Even when all feedback is positive, it’s scary. You really need one person who genuinely believes in you and loves you. It’s a slow, dry death without that person. 💔
None of this matters, Robin is the only one for me.
We just need to figure out how to mur- ehem, how to make her divorce Demetrius 😅.
I like Harvey a lot. Because his maturity and responsibility is what I want to be. Plus he has nerdy interests he really enjoys that I relate to (albeit my interests are very different from his). And as someone going into a scientific field that overlaps a lot with medicine (microbiology) I really enjoy his role in the village.
I also like Maru's scientific interest, but its less adjacent to my preferred field of science. Plus I'm more attacted to men than women. Sorry Maru.
"Double wammy of mommy and daddy issues. Oof." Okay that got me to chuckle.
Krobus being the secret S tier is a great turn.
Opinions are subjective, and my subjective opinion is that all you said about Krobus is objectively true and everyone who disagrees is in denial because they can't fathom Krobus' flawlessness.
Keep up the good work!
Harvey "Bills" you like way too much money for not noticing that it's late when you're in the mines and pass out so just wanted to mention that
A lot of people talk about Haley and Shane being outright rude to you at first but to be fair...
1. Sebastian is also very standoffish and he is just as difficult to see as Leah and Elliot
2. Pierre just sees you as a walking check. Least favorite villager by far. At least Morris is funny in a cartoonish villain way.
3. You do have to walk on eggshells with Penny.
4. While Demetrius may be coded as on the spectrum, his relationship with Maru and scenes with Robin just turns me all the way off. Like I don’t enjoy getting my hearts up with him.
5. Clint... Clint. I'm sure it's his anxiety but he toes the line between asocial and creep.
6. Lewis no one cares if you date Marnie! Honestly good for you. Now stop embezzling town funds!
But on a more serious note I feel like if Sebby is in A tier then Haley can be moved up just on the strength of her growth alone. And I think Alex can move to B ONLY if you play as a male farmer, as his grandfather will become much more accepting of you and queer identifying people as a whole.
What are you even talking about? Sebastian, standoffish? Have we played the same game?
One thing i agree with you on is Demetrius... cant stand him!!!
@@meganoreo1839i think they meant that seb is a bit standoffish at the beginning. but we all know he isn't really cold, unfriendly nor distant because he is actually a marshmallow inside, soft and just silly. "standoffish" is rather his first impression. but he isn't as standoffish as shane, shane's a perfect example for that word
@@soniamelo6366 ohh okay you're right
Honestly, I love Shane. hear me out: not because i want to “fix him,” just cuz i can relate to his struggles. I wished someone was there for me when i was struggling (despite how bitchy i was). so idk i guess my approach to marrying or dating him is i don’t care if he does or doesn’t change. i just wanna be there for him no matter what he’s going through🤗
also he’s totally the type to dominate and be a freak in the sheets🤭
oh he absolutely is and he ends up being a great husband and father
I married him pre-1.6 and loved it. Married him post-1.6 and he honestly seems less lovey even at 14 hearts 😢 to the point I decided to divorce 😭 actually came to this video to vet a new partner
So even though Sebastian is my absolute favourite and I love him to the moon and back I do have to agree that Krobus totally deserves the S(ewer) tier! He just feels like such a nice companion to have and the way he helps around is also a great perk. And btw I love your tierlist and the overall aesthetic, you did such a great job with that!
SHANE NEEDS A REAL REWORK, he could have been our best boy but they dont write him to actually commit to his arc. He could be our best boy but we need them to rewrite his post marriage dialog and even maybe his 14 heart even where you HAVE to accuse him of drinking.
I actually think his arc and dialogue (pre and post marriage) is very accurate to a depressed recovering alcoholic. Marriage won't fix those things, unfortunately. I think the 14 heart event is supposed to kind of suggest a future in which he's slowly finding outlets of joy outside from alcohol, which is a struggle by itself when one deals with depression, let alone alcohol addiction. He deserves all the love and support.
Just not from me bc he doesn't seem to give enough kisses during marriage after the 1.6 update 😂 I live for the cute interactions
I was going to say "Where's Krobus?" XD
Edit: personally, I am Aro so I didn't know I still could have the benefits of having a partner but being a housemate instead. Thanks to the two people who let me know that fact and I will be having Krobus moving in this weekend on stream o3o
As much as I want Krobus on here just so he could go into S tier, I understand. Good video though, that’s a sub.
Edit: I had to take some deep breaths after she put Emily at B, almost A.
Edit 2: CRIST ON A KRISPY KREME KROBUS WAS ON THERE FORGIVE ME GOD FOR I HAVE SINNED PLEASE!!!
Lol what a wave of emotions😅😂
& yes, I couldn’t do a tier list without the beloved Krobus.😇
I respect your opinion... For me tho Alex is the first person I married and ive had to stop myself from marrying him every new play through I start cuz I wanted to see other characters storylines(I still did marry him 3 more times tho)... So for me he goes in S tier!
Thinking about it I get your rankings
Elliot becoming more dependant on you when you marry him is something I never noticed but makes so much sense when you realize that his only friends were Leah and Willy, and Willy is likely only because he lives on the beach too. The farm is more reclusive than his beach cabin. Elliot just needs more friends and going to the farm doesn't help that at all.
As a guy marrying Alex feels like a completely different experience compared to what I've heard from female players so I can get his ranking. Though personally for me he's higher
Maru's only flaw is her father. Queen Maru might seem stagnant but she has her life together unlike most of the people running around here. Just wish there was more thought put into her post marriage because- Yeah- She doesn't seem to do a lot of tinkering or make good on her automation idea anymore.
And I'm glad you weren't too harsh on Shane because he isn't "fixable" because I see a lot of that in the community (UnsurpassableZ didn't help before he left, Jesus) so knowing that despite his flaws he's not the lowest makes me happy
I respect the places everyone is in this tier list. Pretty much the same thing I had in my head. My girl Leah in A Tier but I’m totally fine with Krobus in the higher tier lol. Great video!
Leah and Sebastian in "A" tier is so perfect, they are my two favorites in the game and i would do everything and anything for them. however krobus will always be number one :3
As an Emily fan, I’m so glad you don’t hate her cuz she’s “too nice”.
LIKE THATS THE WORST EXCUSE IVE EVER HEARD LIKE WHAT????
(I’m also playing for the first time lol)
The correct choice for S tier
My thoughts exactly.😇
I feel offended by abigail almost a c tiee, i marry her in almost every save files. Only other character i married is leah on my forest farm because i think she fit perfectly with forest environtment😂
I really wish shane would stop drinking after 8 hearts and if you are a bad spouse ot divorce him he'll start drinking again.
just a thought 🤷
That's the struggle with alcoholism though. They call it a disease for a reason. Love and marriage won't fix it. It takes mental health treatment and sometimes actual medical treatment (there's medication to help correct the addiction - I have family members who had to take it).
Talking about Shane so often in this video comment thread just made me realize he's the closest to a "disabled" character we get outside of George. It would be cool af if ConcernedApe added characters that represent more minorities of every variety
😅 look at me asking for more immediately after 1.6
Omg I died when she was like “let’s describe Haley with the 3 Bs: Blonde, Bubbly and Big Boo….BLUE! Eyes!! 😆
I watched your entire video. I really liked it. I am a bit sad at how hard you are with Harvey. He is so kind with helping Shane. And just kind in general. Now with Sebastian, he is usually my husband. He is an S Tier for me hands down. I try to pick someone new, but he woes me and I am his again. LOL ❤😊
Holy cow your opinions are so crazy 😂 I can’t believe many of your takes tbh. 10/10 video
I love Haley so much ❤️ also, loved this video. I like the way you organized it into categories and broke it down!
I'm ranking this S teir, as I am in year 2 and doing stardew research and this is giving everything I need and more to find out what is going on in pelican town. for real though great video and keep this up!
“Harvey is the white loaf of bread he despises,” is going to make me laugh all week 🤣
Four categories of judgment eh? Sounds like Something sans would do if he played Stardew Valley. 🤣 (No hate)
Penny is my fave. People just don’t like her cause she’s a little plain
Plus she makes the best mother and is absolutely devoted to you.
I adore Penny! I can’t believe people don’t like her much, I just wanna rescue her like she’s such an angel
I can't believe you put Alex above Elliot 😥
Alex is underrated
@@ElfinHat96True. He underestimates the player alot like saying you're not strong enough as a man and as a girl, you're either weak or you can't "throw". plus there's no sparks in your relationship when you got to marry him. he's a boring stereotypical jock. sorry, not sorry
@@soniamelo6366 Underrated is a positive term tho.
There's no spark when you marry him? I bought the game when I've seen his dialogue after marriage on some reddit post.
@@soniamelo6366I don’t think you know what underrated means lol, I think they were saying not enough ppl like Alex
@@riann7707 I know what underrated means, i thought they said overrated lol but alex is def overrated
as an avid harvey enjoyer, the best way i can describe his aesthetic and overall vibe is "pathetic". this is why i love him
I want to marry him so bad but like 😭 you can't even give me a discount when I die? Don't you know that ore is going into our home?
This was an amazing tire list. Id love to see one of all the non-marriageable characters. Either way great work! 😘
Personaly, i love Elliot. He is always my first choise, and i don't think that he thinks his better. He even say that he wish he can become a farmer.
And Alex. At first i don't like him. He just was. But his history? Romancing him as a male farmer? His ten hearts event? I very like him.
And Haley at B when Alex D? ..why? Theyre pretty.. similar?
Junimo: Sam doesn’t really pursue his music after you marry him :/
Sam’s 14 Heart Event: Am I a joke to you?
All love🤣🩷🩷
We all knew krobus would be a shoe in for s-tier
I love how you said about the S tier, "Maybe it was the sewer tier all along?"! Lol
No way you put HALEY at a B tier. I’m gonna scream
It’s an opinion
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA@@mitsuri_supremacy2342
Here I am confused on whether you want her lower or higher 😅
29:43 he said he started to drink sparkling water instead in one of his heart events
I totally understand your ratings, but I would throw Haley in that F tier. My least favorite ever.
Same
I love the objective approach. And yes, Krobus is the best.
Thanks. I’m not going to marry anyone because I’ve heard marriage dulls down the characters a lot (and also because Krobus supremacy), but I also want to get close to these people…without getting Saloon Scene’d (or, I guess Kitchen Scene’d. I personally like women, and the only male character that piques my interest is Harvey.)
I did a tier list for myself apparently right when this came out and I can't wait to see how your opinion differs from mine lol.
I separated mine into "Yes, always, love of my life(literally just Harvey)" "Serious contenders/if I wanna be gay for this run" "Friendzoned(bachelors I only see as friends) "Not worth hunting you down(Seb/Elliot) and "Never again you broke my heart(SHANE.)"
It'll be interesting to see who you put in the top tier but I can tell from the comments you already agree with me about Elliott :P
(the first time I married Shane I was so disappointed in who he becomes after marriage I divorced him and married Leah two days later LIKE HE DESERVED.)
editing this bc I just got to the Haley section. Her heart events are what gave her a very special tier for me next to Harvey - the Best Friend tier. She's so misunderstood by the community and everyone always seems to judge her based on the first few interactions which is like... the entire point of her character is to not judge a book by its cover. She doesn't really change but she does show there's a *reason* behind how she acts and that underneath the surface there's this wonderful and kind human being. I appreciate the heck out of it. I always go out of my way to max my friendship with her now just because I want to see those heart events and be her BFF. Criminally misunderstood character imo
editedit: Oh my god you absolutely ASSASSINATED my boy. Everything you dislike about Harvey is everything I **LOVE** about him. He's mature, responsible, has a job that proves he's kind and compassionate, and has a silly little hobby that he absolutely adores no matter what. The single way to his heart is through straight black coffee and that alone makes me love him. He's everything I look for in an IRL partner and I can't help but love him for that.
kay I'm just finishing the Shane section now and you really hit the nail on the head - I'd just add that it's realistic. The only redeeming part of this part of Shane is that it absolutely reflects what can happen in real life. He finds someone that gives him hope and falls in love, making the effort to improve for them. Then they get married, and he gets complacent, and he starts losing all the drive to self improve that he had before. I've... watched this happen to people. I hate seeing it, and I'll never romance Shane again if just because marrying him seems to ruin his life. You can be friendzoned forever because it's clearly what's best for you, my darling potential prince.
So relieved cause when I saw Shane be the last one after Seb not making it to S tier I thought you were placing Shane in the S tier. Krobus really deserves it. 5/5 video.
So far I married Emily on my first and second save files, Penny on the third for the strawberry furniture and on my current save file I'm marrying Leah
Justice for Alex.
Omg so happy to see a new video from you, you're videos are some of the best
Thank you!🥹💜 I hope you like it!
Bro I love your content I found you when I first started playing
Thanks for making this. I’ve never married anyone in the game yet. I can’t decide lol
i’ve had so many issues picking one person lmao
I married Sam first and I’m sad that marriage ruined his dream of being a musician!
Ima put Harvey in A, He was a man with dreams of being a pilot but God said NO from the get go, something about this really stuck with me, it's so unfair
But he marched on lived his life and eventually found something else to love
Sure it's not 'current' character development that we get to experience, but from gathering context in his story he went through alot
Even tho I married Seb first run, my taste changed over years, i guess i don't wanna marry him again anymore
I wanna write my own list here
My list of Bachelor/Bachelorette I will mary in game
Top 1:
Lacey the hat mouse (Mod)
That's it, Honorable mentions
Caroline (Mod), Harvey
I love the Graphics in this video
Krobus’ hug is the most adorable thing ever 😭😭🩵
Abigail going to the beach a lot could be a part of her "adventurous" side tho as well
Okay then, Alex is one of Gaster followers
I’m doing my first playthru trying to romance Emily but I can’t bring myself to do it, she’s in love with Sandy
It's platonic.
Emily straight up says in marriage dialogue that the only person she has romantic feelings for is the player.
I married Sam for his childish personality. I like how he doesn't force himself to do things. I grew up acting as an adult as a child, therefore, I love Sam because of how carefree he can be. I'm actually kind of guilty because I married him at such an early stage, lol. Still, he's responsible enough to love me and the kids without losing his childish personality. So stop with these tiers, all bachelor and bachelorette has their own ups and downs. I also noticed how biased you sound towards Sebby, just because he's your type, despite his red flags, lol. All of them are beautiful in the right eyes. And ranking is literally useless if you include your own preconceptions.
We love Krobus
Absolute S tier
Never any doubt
Alex and George coming to accept homosexuality makes Alex a HUGE hit for my fellow queer folk, but i just can’t see his appeal
14:17 The "Big b- big blue eyes" caught me off guard 😭
From a different country, Turkiye. I am from Turkye and you can be the best Stardew player. So if you can make a video (I'm not talking about shorts) every week or once every 2 weeks it will be perfect.
marrying alex makes more sense if your player is a male. is just weird to be married to him and still have his casual sexism, but if your character is a guy, it looks way more like he's closet and with internalized homophobia (that generally comes with toxic masculinity etc
Very well made, love it!
Thanks so much!😁
I loved this ❤ thank you so much
Top tier editing on this video 🤌
Thank you!😊
I’m surprised there are people that don’t like Abigail’s 14th heart event!
I watched this completely for Krobus.
All I'll add is Haley is THE fastest character to marry, as someone managed to do it before the flower dance. (Massive min-maxing required but still)
With Shane it seems to be two steps forward one step back
I love Krobus
Awwwwwwww you love Krobus!❤❤❤❤❤ I still haven’t unlocked the sewers😢
I can't believe how similar our tastes are!
"To describe Haley's over all aesthetic I put it into 3 b's Blonde, Bubbly, and Big Boo-Blue eyes big blue eyes" lol 14:17
Sebastian is great because he loves sashimi. Catch a carp, slice it up, gift it, and boom. BFFs.
I married Maru in my first play thru since she looks the closest to my real life. I have zero regrets.
ABIGAIL DOES WHAT
thats ptsd educing for me haha
I cannot take seriously people who use the word cringe. It's not for you we get it. But other people can enjoy it.
You should do this with the Stardew Valley expanded and ridgeside village marriage candidates
I think that not everything is bad with Shane. I think that the true story of him is in heart events and his room is just a reminder of his past. I do get a feeling that he is not really regresing, because changing is hard and in his situation, I think, he suffered too much to be redeemed in a short time
the "Me" factor: I CAN FIX HIM
my big issue with abigail is because i have purple hair too! 😭 it feels off looking silimar to her
love this great video! got yourself a new sub ^_^
Thanks so much!🥰
@@JunimoB you are very welcome 😊
Gotta say Abigail has better naming skills than me. Last two cats I had were named Cat and Cat.
I agree with you in pretty much every way
I can't wait for 1.6 on console. I want to play it on the PS5
I'm aroace, so not exactly interested in marrige (even in game, i get enough romance in real life) so for me THE only correct answer is Krobus!
Congratulations for reaching 10k subs
Really good edited video
Thanks so much! It was a nice thing to wake up to this morning.😌🥰
i love my man harvey and nobody will change that