It’s so nice to find a youtuber who’s so knowledgeable and passionate about VIII. It really doesn’t get the respect it deserves and I like that you actually get the nuance behind the writing.
I'm confused on the premise of your whole statement, theres literally thousands of youtubers who know about ff8 better than I do and I beat the game. Castle at the end didnt slow me down because of all the ff8 youtubers who made videos on ff8 since youtubes been up and running. So either you dont know how to use a search bar so you only watch what youtube suggests or you just said that so you can flirt with someone you dont know and will never meet and might never read your comment...which would be weird to say it nicely
@@jamesmeppler6375 I don't personally find FF8 to be all that underrated, I think personally that the legacy of the game is a pretty fairly accurate summation of the game it reflects. That said, this is a bizarre reaction to somebody's comment regardless of how accurate the comment reflects reality. There's no need to be so adversarial.
Oh it gets weirder than that. Magic in the world of FF8 comes from a godlike being named Hyne and a war he had with humanity, where he removed his own skin to give people magic, because they wanted it and he tricked them as his skin didn't have magic, but real magic does manifest in women, the sorceresses, a succession of witches. Final Fantasy VIII has so much backstory but it never goes out of its way to tell you more than his required to understand the struggles of the characters. If you know where to look it gets nuts. Or you can watch the complete unabridged timeline over on Final Fantasy Union.
I had never thought about the connection between magic and the moon. I always saw magic in 8 as an aspect of the natural world. The existence of draw points and extracting magic from stones you can get gave me the impression that humanity was the odd one out for not having magic.
Loved your video and views on magic and technology. Thank you :) FF8 lore is severely underrated and much less discussed as much as the other FF games. And is quite expansive.. for example, the GF research done at the deep sea research centre aka Battleship Island.
I had not really considered the good and evil magic and technology split in the FF games before, but I also recently realized that the Garleans in FFXIV are incapable of using magic. I always thought they were more technology focused because that's just how they are or something, I never realized there was an explicit dichotomy there, and one that matches this pattern. (Seeing as my first FF game was FFV, where the antagonist is also magical, I think I can be forgiven, haha)
Magic was also cited to just be weaker in general compared to technology. Hence why many Soldiers use conventional weaponry more than Magics because Guns and Swords naturally are a more reliable source to destroy things than Magic can do. That's why your first challenge ever is to fight Ifrit in the Fire Cave but as soon as you go to a real War a giant robot sends you and your elite squad members running for their lives.
Based on playing the game, that doesnt seem to be accurate, seems the opposite is true. I take more dmg from magic than I did physical attacks like guns or swords. And the enemy also takes more dmg from my magic than most physical dmg without stuff junctioned.
I think this is why the Rinoa is Ultimecia theory doesn’t really work for me. Given everything we know about Rinoa, why would you assume that she would turn evil and do everything that caused the events of the game? Does becoming a Sorceress automatically shift your entire personality and make you evil? Does magic activate something in your brain like a sleeper agent? Or is the whole plot of the game deal with taking responsibility with power you’re given, be that magic or technology?
I can see her losing everyone she loves and having the world hate you be a major influence in turning her "evil." I like the theory but don't believe in it either. I just wanted to provide the counter point that without the support of love ones and being treated as 'evil' will make nearly any of us 'evil'.
I'm actually on thee other side of this I think it makes rinoa = ultimecia better, because a sorceress needs a knight there by their side to make them remember who they are and not get lost in their powers but with squall being her knight and possibly dying in one timeline the grief and lost of not having him there could make her become more twisted and villainess not bc it's her nature but bc of the circumstances. and her desire to be with him again, allows her to manipulate time itself to make another timeline where it can be possible. But bc he's still not her knight but her younger versions knight she still doesn't remember him until it's too late and he defeats her and in this timeline she still loses him but another version of her gets too have the happy ending and that makes it so tragic but compelling and better.
@@NaerysTargaryen26kinda like Naminé, and her need for Riku. That's why in the "Sea-Change of Fate" fic, even though she has Roxas and Xion by her side, Xehanort still gains more power over her the more fearful she grows of Kairi, the sadder she grows at what she has to do to Roxas and Xion, and the angrier she gets at having to spend time with Axel. Because she doesn't have Riku by her side. Kairi is awake too, and both her and Riku are busy working out their issues. He spends more time with her. It's just as well. Naminé should rely on herself more. And if she does need a knight, they should have no associations to anyone remotely close to DiZ. What a shame she can not spend as much time as Zexion as she'd like, or that Laexeaus is unavalaible because of Castle Oblivion. They are the adults she needs in her life.
Loved it! Never really saw this flip the game made about magic and science, but it is really an interesting take that I wonder if even the ones created the storie were conscious of? Maybe because of the need to go away as far as possible from the latest entries, this is what they landed on.
To add to this, the predecessor civilization in FF8, the Centra, developed a lot of the technology seen in the game (arguably the majority of it.) So rather than the ancients being somehow imbued with mystical, magic powers instead in FF8 the ancients were a technologically advanced society. Kinda cool, thematically.
@@jessl1934I think realistically speaking, this is how magic would really work in real life. Much like science, magic's goal is to control and manipulate. Do you think that's how magic is gonna work in Unreality on "Kingdom Hearts" ? Maybe that's what Sora's Squall like hairstyle predicts.
2:21 Thank you for this. You could have shrugged it off and went on to the next thing but instead you went back and addressed it. That's true integrity.
You know what seems pretty interesting, is that this insight pairs very nicely with your observation about Cid and his plans as well as why Rinoa and Squall are not picking up the torch that their parents left behind. In the case of Laguna, Cid, and Julia, those characters are proposing for our protagonists a life determined by a less romantic choice. They are proposing a life determined by planning and merely the intellect. Meanwhile, Squall leaps out into space without any plan at all. Squall and Rinoa, by choosing romance, are choosing a side of magic rather than mere technology.
Appreciate all these videos you've done for FF8. It's like top 3 or 4 in the series for me, and I don't know why I feel that way, but your deep dives help put things into words for me.
Hi, I just discovered you today and wanted to say: please keep doing what you're doing. That's some quality content right there, I like your specific points of views. And you presented them really well. *Chef's kiss* well done! :D
I’ve never quite connected with FF8 the way I did with FF6. For me, FF6 was on another level-I enjoyed it so much that even the original FF7 didn’t capture the same magic. I guess FF6 just set the bar really high for me.
@JabamiLain yep, 9 took some refined taste. It's not easy to connect with a bug king or queen brahma ... Kefka is the best story villain. I can't wait to play rebirth on PC, 10 more days for me.
We literally do that in FF8. That's why they needed Time Compression to meet Ultimecia. That's also why Rinoa was no longer able to be possessed anymore. The power is her own now. By having Ultimecia send her powers into the past rather than the future means she'll be the last evil sorceress.
I always believed VIII was more deserving of a VII-style remake. Let's put it like this, if VII is written so perfectly, why not just remaster it like VIII? Whereas if VIII is an almost-masterpiece, why not extrapolate it to what could have been?
I love how 8 holds both magic and technology in a sort of dialectic tension. They're much less interested in moralizing here and show off how both are used for immense good and for great harm. The whole setting feels oddly post-apocalyptic. But we're a few centuries down the road from the apocalypse and things are starting to pick back up. And then bam, the things which are hinted at as having destroyed the world before are front and center again. But instead of some gritty Fist of the Northstar type hero out for revenge and justice. We get Squall, an awkward kid caught up in a love story. So good. Surprisingly subversive to the rest of the series. Certainly to the later entries which cannot seem to abide the idea that the player come to their own conclusions about some things.
The game info is conflicting but it's stated that the Centra were destroyed by the previous Lunar Cry that occurred 80 years prior to the time the story is set in, although in the Lunar Base a character states that the Centra were destroyed "over a hundred years ago". Whichever is the case, and I'm more likely to believe the 80 years claim, it happened more or less within living memory in-game.
I had to look it up and the Japanese version is ハイン so it would be pronounced Hain. Either way, this video is great! When I saw the title, I was expecting how it works differently in a gameplay aspect. I never even considered the story aspect. Liked and subscribed.
I always pronounced "Hyne" as "High-knee" and imagined him as the Red Guy from Cow and Chicken. For real though, I love VIII. I love how much love shines through what was ultimately a botched project because of Spirits Within. I picked it up again recently and really noticed and appreciate how much life is in the animations. The graphics aren't great, but the animations make FFX look stiff as boards.
Brilliant analysis as always! Somehow I'm totally unsurprised that the magic as a feminine tool is seen as a negative in VIII (and that it's a kind and nurturing thing in other games)... I can't help but feel that even though para-magic is a "good" tool, it's only by not being easy to access (need a GF, with all the wrongs that go with that) that the concept of magic hasn't changed the way it's perceived. You know, like teaching and nursing professions being devalued the more women take them up! (hard stare into the camera) I never considered the opposition to magic being science, though - but it totally makes sense! Can't believe I never thought of that before. One question that I'd love to pick your brains over is whether or not you think the legend of Hyne is true. All we get is stories withought it ever being a focus - you gotta go digging for that! And as a story told to children (and iirc by that old guy in Timber as well), it certainly smacks of "well, we needed an explanation and could well have made something up" instead of "a potentially definite truth" to me. (They should've called the moon Hyne.) -Mol
Wait, magic is feminine and you can only access magic with a GF. I wonder if they thought of the abbreviation as synonymous with a girlfriend at the time, even though as far as I know, the popularization of that abbreviation was much later.
I think realistically speaking, this is how magic would really work in real life. Much like science, magic's goal is to control and manipulate. Do you think that's how magic is gonna work in Unreality on "Kingdom Hearts" ? Maybe that's what Sora's Squall like hairstyle predicts.
@@Iohannis42 you speak of control and manipulation as bad things, but that's not how I see them. They're artificial concepts, but they are often the encouragement for the pursuit of knowledge, which makes them appealing in my opinion, as well as neutral as knowledge itself. So magic IS much like science. And amidst that evil, there could be some good, for it can have its scientific approach. The brain, even memory, is a domain of science too.
Draw for the win. But I agree. I think MP should have been a stat (that you can junction like everything else), and "stocking" magic instead gained you experience in that magic to rank it up.
I think realistically speaking, this is how magic would really work in real life. Much like science, magic's goal is to control and manipulate. Do you think that's how magic is gonna work in Unreality on "Kingdom Hearts" ? Maybe that's what Sora's Squall like hairstyle predicts.
Magic being at the root of evil in VIII is not matched to it being good in VI and VII. Meteor was not on anyone's side, and the War of the Magi nearly destroyed the world.
let's see.. magic comes at the cost of the existence of another world in ff3, 4, 5, and 9. magic comes at the cost of esper lives in ff6.. magic causes mako poisoning in ff7. it probably has something to do with memoria in ff9 and sin in ff10 if the use of guardian forces in ff8 causing memory loss is anything to go by. i'd say it's almost consistently portrayed as evil in the entire series.
I found it a little bit confusing tbh...like we can Junction magic to all the party members and also draw magic xD So the concept of sorceresses didnt really stand out to me?
Magic is evil in FF8 then why is was missing 1 element that correspond to evil and that is Shadow (which debuted in FF9). Also in previous installment like FF7 is missing Meteor and Holy (but have Alexander!?). And then Aether (which debuted in FF16), the world of final fantasy is really strange 😅.
If ya look into hyne the physical aspect seems to be omega weapon where as the magical is the sorceresses 😂 They need to remake this and delve into hyne but also make a war torn world actually big and full and not so empty
The channel Japanese Games Are Masterpieces does an interesting deep dive into the backstory with some analysis about the Hyne/Weapon connection. It's worth watching.
An unexpected recommendation, and enjoyable to watch; I've never played the game, but these are interesting thoughts! (Not ashamed the thumbnail got me. 🪴)
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It’s so nice to find a youtuber who’s so knowledgeable and passionate about VIII. It really doesn’t get the respect it deserves and I like that you actually get the nuance behind the writing.
Writing stories about a couple with no chemistry and giving them chosen one plot lines(Rinoa and Squall) isnt nuanced...not even slightly.
YES ! MORE FANS !
I'm confused on the premise of your whole statement, theres literally thousands of youtubers who know about ff8 better than I do and I beat the game. Castle at the end didnt slow me down because of all the ff8 youtubers who made videos on ff8 since youtubes been up and running. So either you dont know how to use a search bar so you only watch what youtube suggests or you just said that so you can flirt with someone you dont know and will never meet and might never read your comment...which would be weird to say it nicely
@@jamesmeppler6375 I don't personally find FF8 to be all that underrated, I think personally that the legacy of the game is a pretty fairly accurate summation of the game it reflects. That said, this is a bizarre reaction to somebody's comment regardless of how accurate the comment reflects reality. There's no need to be so adversarial.
@@jamesmeppler6375 Who hurt you?
Oh it gets weirder than that. Magic in the world of FF8 comes from a godlike being named Hyne and a war he had with humanity, where he removed his own skin to give people magic, because they wanted it and he tricked them as his skin didn't have magic, but real magic does manifest in women, the sorceresses, a succession of witches.
Final Fantasy VIII has so much backstory but it never goes out of its way to tell you more than his required to understand the struggles of the characters. If you know where to look it gets nuts. Or you can watch the complete unabridged timeline over on Final Fantasy Union.
The legend of Hyne, a Hein in the past.
I seed what you did there.
One reason i love VIII the most. There is alot of layers to the entire story. Some things i wish we could of delved further in.
I had never thought about the connection between magic and the moon. I always saw magic in 8 as an aspect of the natural world. The existence of draw points and extracting magic from stones you can get gave me the impression that humanity was the odd one out for not having magic.
Loved your video and views on magic and technology. Thank you :)
FF8 lore is severely underrated and much less discussed as much as the other FF games.
And is quite expansive.. for example, the GF research done at the deep sea research centre aka Battleship Island.
I had not really considered the good and evil magic and technology split in the FF games before, but I also recently realized that the Garleans in FFXIV are incapable of using magic. I always thought they were more technology focused because that's just how they are or something, I never realized there was an explicit dichotomy there, and one that matches this pattern. (Seeing as my first FF game was FFV, where the antagonist is also magical, I think I can be forgiven, haha)
Magic was also cited to just be weaker in general compared to technology. Hence why many Soldiers use conventional weaponry more than Magics because Guns and Swords naturally are a more reliable source to destroy things than Magic can do. That's why your first challenge ever is to fight Ifrit in the Fire Cave but as soon as you go to a real War a giant robot sends you and your elite squad members running for their lives.
Based on playing the game, that doesnt seem to be accurate, seems the opposite is true. I take more dmg from magic than I did physical attacks like guns or swords. And the enemy also takes more dmg from my magic than most physical dmg without stuff junctioned.
Game mechanics =/= lore text
the robot in dollet is weak to electricity tho
they were running to avoid being late for the boat tbh. just didnt want be left behind.
PuPu certainly has his own opinion on Malboros. Bold assertion, I'll give the little guy that.
I think this is why the Rinoa is Ultimecia theory doesn’t really work for me. Given everything we know about Rinoa, why would you assume that she would turn evil and do everything that caused the events of the game? Does becoming a Sorceress automatically shift your entire personality and make you evil? Does magic activate something in your brain like a sleeper agent? Or is the whole plot of the game deal with taking responsibility with power you’re given, be that magic or technology?
I can see her losing everyone she loves and having the world hate you be a major influence in turning her "evil."
I like the theory but don't believe in it either. I just wanted to provide the counter point that without the support of love ones and being treated as 'evil' will make nearly any of us 'evil'.
I'm actually on thee other side of this I think it makes rinoa = ultimecia better, because a sorceress needs a knight there by their side to make them remember who they are and not get lost in their powers but with squall being her knight and possibly dying in one timeline the grief and lost of not having him there could make her become more twisted and villainess not bc it's her nature but bc of the circumstances.
and her desire to be with him again, allows her to manipulate time itself to make another timeline where it can be possible.
But bc he's still not her knight but her younger versions knight she still doesn't remember him until it's too late and he defeats her and in this timeline she still loses him but another version of her gets too have the happy ending and that makes it so tragic but compelling and better.
The persecution theory is much more compelling to me.
@@NaerysTargaryen26kinda like Naminé, and her need for Riku. That's why in the "Sea-Change of Fate" fic, even though she has Roxas and Xion by her side, Xehanort still gains more power over her the more fearful she grows of Kairi, the sadder she grows at what she has to do to Roxas and Xion, and the angrier she gets at having to spend time with Axel.
Because she doesn't have Riku by her side. Kairi is awake too, and both her and Riku are busy working out their issues. He spends more time with her.
It's just as well. Naminé should rely on herself more. And if she does need a knight, they should have no associations to anyone remotely close to DiZ. What a shame she can not spend as much time as Zexion as she'd like, or that Laexeaus is unavalaible because of Castle Oblivion. They are the adults she needs in her life.
Loved it! Never really saw this flip the game made about magic and science, but it is really an interesting take that I wonder if even the ones created the storie were conscious of? Maybe because of the need to go away as far as possible from the latest entries, this is what they landed on.
To add to this, the predecessor civilization in FF8, the Centra, developed a lot of the technology seen in the game (arguably the majority of it.)
So rather than the ancients being somehow imbued with mystical, magic powers instead in FF8 the ancients were a technologically advanced society.
Kinda cool, thematically.
@@jessl1934I think realistically speaking, this is how magic would really work in real life. Much like science, magic's goal is to control and manipulate.
Do you think that's how magic is gonna work in Unreality on "Kingdom Hearts" ? Maybe that's what Sora's Squall like hairstyle predicts.
2:21 Thank you for this. You could have shrugged it off and went on to the next thing but instead you went back and addressed it. That's true integrity.
You know what seems pretty interesting, is that this insight pairs very nicely with your observation about Cid and his plans as well as why Rinoa and Squall are not picking up the torch that their parents left behind. In the case of Laguna, Cid, and Julia, those characters are proposing for our protagonists a life determined by a less romantic choice. They are proposing a life determined by planning and merely the intellect. Meanwhile, Squall leaps out into space without any plan at all. Squall and Rinoa, by choosing romance, are choosing a side of magic rather than mere technology.
@@benabaxter that scene sold their romance for me. The other "FF" romance to touch me like this was the "FF X" one.
Excellent points :O This was a very cool point of view. Made one of my favorite FFs even better ^^
Why is this game so hated ? It was one of my favorites ! Also, not to sound blasphemous, but I connected with it more easily than with "FF 9".
Appreciate all these videos you've done for FF8. It's like top 3 or 4 in the series for me, and I don't know why I feel that way, but your deep dives help put things into words for me.
Hi,
I just discovered you today and wanted to say: please keep doing what you're doing. That's some quality content right there, I like your specific points of views. And you presented them really well. *Chef's kiss* well done! :D
I’ve never quite connected with FF8 the way I did with FF6. For me, FF6 was on another level-I enjoyed it so much that even the original FF7 didn’t capture the same magic. I guess FF6 just set the bar really high for me.
I understand how you feel. Though im my case, it was 6, 7 and 8 that set the bar for me, keeping me from connecting to 9.
@JabamiLain yep, 9 took some refined taste. It's not easy to connect with a bug king or queen brahma ... Kefka is the best story villain. I can't wait to play rebirth on PC, 10 more days for me.
If they made a sequel, it could be about expelling Hyne from Rinoa & any other sorceress' remaining and defeating this god of magic.
We literally do that in FF8. That's why they needed Time Compression to meet Ultimecia. That's also why Rinoa was no longer able to be possessed anymore. The power is her own now. By having Ultimecia send her powers into the past rather than the future means she'll be the last evil sorceress.
@@tylercafe1260 unless the paradox theory comes true. It has been confirmed otherwise, but writers are known for changing their mind, sometimes.
Science is about understanding the natural world. Magic is the chaotic use of nature without understanding.
I wouldn't say without understanding. There's a certain strategy, even to chaos, to make the most use of it.
I always believed VIII was more deserving of a VII-style remake.
Let's put it like this, if VII is written so perfectly, why not just remaster it like VIII? Whereas if VIII is an almost-masterpiece, why not extrapolate it to what could have been?
Agreed, 100% !
I love how 8 holds both magic and technology in a sort of dialectic tension.
They're much less interested in moralizing here and show off how both are used for immense good and for great harm.
The whole setting feels oddly post-apocalyptic. But we're a few centuries down the road from the apocalypse and things are starting to pick back up. And then bam, the things which are hinted at as having destroyed the world before are front and center again.
But instead of some gritty Fist of the Northstar type hero out for revenge and justice. We get Squall, an awkward kid caught up in a love story. So good. Surprisingly subversive to the rest of the series. Certainly to the later entries which cannot seem to abide the idea that the player come to their own conclusions about some things.
The game info is conflicting but it's stated that the Centra were destroyed by the previous Lunar Cry that occurred 80 years prior to the time the story is set in, although in the Lunar Base a character states that the Centra were destroyed "over a hundred years ago".
Whichever is the case, and I'm more likely to believe the 80 years claim, it happened more or less within living memory in-game.
@@jessl1934 I'm not really talking about that.
I had to look it up and the Japanese version is ハイン so it would be pronounced Hain.
Either way, this video is great! When I saw the title, I was expecting how it works differently in a gameplay aspect. I never even considered the story aspect.
Liked and subscribed.
I always pronounced "Hyne" as "High-knee" and imagined him as the Red Guy from Cow and Chicken.
For real though, I love VIII. I love how much love shines through what was ultimately a botched project because of Spirits Within. I picked it up again recently and really noticed and appreciate how much life is in the animations. The graphics aren't great, but the animations make FFX look stiff as boards.
Thank you for this interesting and knowledgeable video, from one FF8 fan to another :)
...For some reason, this is helping me WANT to try "Final Fantasy 16".
Brilliant analysis as always! Somehow I'm totally unsurprised that the magic as a feminine tool is seen as a negative in VIII (and that it's a kind and nurturing thing in other games)... I can't help but feel that even though para-magic is a "good" tool, it's only by not being easy to access (need a GF, with all the wrongs that go with that) that the concept of magic hasn't changed the way it's perceived. You know, like teaching and nursing professions being devalued the more women take them up! (hard stare into the camera)
I never considered the opposition to magic being science, though - but it totally makes sense! Can't believe I never thought of that before.
One question that I'd love to pick your brains over is whether or not you think the legend of Hyne is true. All we get is stories withought it ever being a focus - you gotta go digging for that! And as a story told to children (and iirc by that old guy in Timber as well), it certainly smacks of "well, we needed an explanation and could well have made something up" instead of "a potentially definite truth" to me.
(They should've called the moon Hyne.)
-Mol
Wait, magic is feminine and you can only access magic with a GF. I wonder if they thought of the abbreviation as synonymous with a girlfriend at the time, even though as far as I know, the popularization of that abbreviation was much later.
I loved this game as a kid. Never had a clue what was going on though. Thank you for your very well done videos explaining them.
I think realistically speaking, this is how magic would really work in real life. Much like science, magic's goal is to control and manipulate.
Do you think that's how magic is gonna work in Unreality on "Kingdom Hearts" ? Maybe that's what Sora's Squall like hairstyle predicts.
The goal of science is knowledge, not control or manipulation. Knowledge can be used for good or evil, but knowledge itself is neutral.
@@Iohannis42 you speak of control and manipulation as bad things, but that's not how I see them. They're artificial concepts, but they are often the encouragement for the pursuit of knowledge, which makes them appealing in my opinion, as well as neutral as knowledge itself.
So magic IS much like science. And amidst that evil, there could be some good, for it can have its scientific approach. The brain, even memory, is a domain of science too.
Is that why, Mechanically, Magic sucked and made you not want to use it? KINDA makes sense but it was the worst aspect of combat imo.
Draw for the win.
But I agree. I think MP should have been a stat (that you can junction like everything else), and "stocking" magic instead gained you experience in that magic to rank it up.
say that to my Triple Cast Ultima's face!
The voiceover with the shot at 2:09 - is an immactulate bit of editing.
Favourite new channel.
Great video. Man I hope VIII gets remade like VII is. Also VI.
If you've not watched already, Final Fantasy Union did a 4 part deep dive series into the FF8 lore - I REALLY recommend watching it
Naminé from "Kingdom Hearts" was clearly based after the Sorceress' concept. Further proof of how underused non-Sora characters really are.
I think realistically speaking, this is how magic would really work in real life. Much like science, magic's goal is to control and manipulate.
Do you think that's how magic is gonna work in Unreality on "Kingdom Hearts" ? Maybe that's what Sora's Squall like hairstyle predicts.
ALso in final fantasy x technology is't bad if you think
Magic being at the root of evil in VIII is not matched to it being good in VI and VII. Meteor was not on anyone's side, and the War of the Magi nearly destroyed the world.
Cool take, might be more there
let's see.. magic comes at the cost of the existence of another world in ff3, 4, 5, and 9. magic comes at the cost of esper lives in ff6.. magic causes mako poisoning in ff7. it probably has something to do with memoria in ff9 and sin in ff10 if the use of guardian forces in ff8 causing memory loss is anything to go by. i'd say it's almost consistently portrayed as evil in the entire series.
I found it a little bit confusing tbh...like we can Junction magic to all the party members and also draw magic xD
So the concept of sorceresses didnt really stand out to me?
Magic is evil in FF8 then why is was missing 1 element that correspond to evil and that is Shadow (which debuted in FF9). Also in previous installment like FF7 is missing Meteor and Holy (but have Alexander!?). And then Aether (which debuted in FF16), the world of final fantasy is really strange 😅.
Never though about that. I really like your videos, Is similar to what i think when i'm bored or asleep. But my game Is 9 so... A ognuno il suo 😊
banger vid!
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I agree with FFVIII magic is bad juju
sadly ff8 was the absolute worst ff game to date. if not the worst jrpg to date.....13 almost caught up......almost
If ya look into hyne the physical aspect seems to be omega weapon where as the magical is the sorceresses 😂
They need to remake this and delve into hyne but also make a war torn world actually big and full and not so empty
The channel Japanese Games Are Masterpieces does an interesting deep dive into the backstory with some analysis about the Hyne/Weapon connection. It's worth watching.
An unexpected recommendation, and enjoyable to watch; I've never played the game, but these are interesting thoughts! (Not ashamed the thumbnail got me. 🪴)