The tweet said everyone is getting changes, but my bet is the characters we think aren't really needing changes are getting adjustments to their Modern controls.
For Jamie, maybe they can do something like G? G can do some of his power up moves by doing EX move at 0 level, so a Jamie that can breakdance / Dive Kick or Command Grab by spending Drive Meter could be a good idea or completely broken ? I don't known.
One of the best ideas I heard in a while and it's still too much for Jamie looool. But don't feel bad none of us know what should be done with Jamie. We're just waiting for the day Capcom accepts to make him Top tier.
@@Araxhii Here's another idea ; not do what you just said. Turning almost any existing character into a joke character for no good reason just results in the character's fans/players becoming baffled or alienated and rarely anything is ever gained from doing such a thing
As a Jamie main, I wish getting him to 4 drinks was actually worth all the oki/neutral sacrifice. He should become like Jealous Rage A.B.A. and becomes an absolute offense monster if he's gonna lose the powerup at Round Start anyway. OR...for every Drink he has he gets a half-bar of Super at the next Round Start, so at least getting all those drinks in don't go completely to waste.
Im gonna choose to believe someone at capcom randomly saw the patch prediction video, and was like "oh damn we havent done a patch in a while" and it led to this december patch
I'm hoping they just revert the scaling on 5HK back to season 1 - selfishly I'm much better at executing that one than the 2HP combo. Getting the fastest walk back again would be nice too.
What are you talking about? Chun has been the target of numerous dumb nerfs since SF4. It's not even that she's nerfed, but the things that made her good in the past are gone now and have been stolen by buttface Cammy particularly her walkspeed and her Hazanshu's ability to counter projectiles, apply pressure and use in combos are now in Cammy's Quick Spin Knuckle.
The timing of your earlier video was so on point, that I thought the next day I missed the announcement of the patch, and that your video was actually because of the news lmao. Both fantastic videos as well!
With Gief’s mp target combo the thing still whiffs on second hit at unreasonable ranges if it becomes more unsafe the consistency on hit to get a full confirm needs to be buffed AGAIN to make it confirm more consistently rather than really guessing if it’s gonna connect or not
Grappler history. If only the other two got the same treatment as her. It's such a shame too because she's such a unique and cool character but the way the devs keep neglecting her is very questionable and feels biased
The Blanka change going against system mechanics fits the character honestly. He is the only character with a divekick who can do it from a back jump. Lily used to be able to but they considered that a bug and removed it, so it's only Blanka that can break the rules.
I genuinely think so many Ken players would drop him with those jinrai changes. Not like it's the biggest nerf, but Ken players would cry from the rooftops at not having a safe pressure ender to buffer into.
Hey Kimberly main here. I don't want her to have an invincible ex Tatsu because as of right now she could convert it into LV2 and a disgusting mid screen +4 strike/throw afterwards. That is way too much. Instead i would love if they would walk further down the 234LP road. It was buffed so it can be used as a footsies tool and gives a followup with good spacing but it still has horrible scaling. Cancelling into LV3 almost seems like a waste. 234LP should reward you more if you place it well, whiff punish with it or use it as a trade tech followup. Maybe Capcom can dial back some of that scaling
Dhalsim needs float hurtbox fixed to match the visuals. Currently you can be floating well above the guy's head, and you can get hit by di, and so many things that don't visually connect.
I've wanted EX Drink since the beginning but I don't want or need two levels. I just want a hit of Armor so i can parry a sonic boom while drinking....
Yooo they could give him a sassy animation where he like sticks his finger out going "one sec I'm drinking" too to show it's armored I would love that so much actually
For Ryu this is definitely a selfish useless buff but I wish they would make air EX Tatsu launch higher so he can land a level 1 after it. Currently,no matter what you do after a big combo using that as an ender the enemy launches too far and hits the ground too fast for it to connect so as a combo junkie I'd like more fun for him
Man that AKI change is sorely needed. The hitbox for her HP Lash is so wonky it's insane, not even on jump-ins either. Sometimes it'll shave Giefs chest hair and he'll be fine but then on some Devil's Reverse entries it'll hit Bison on the head in a different timeline. That is if it hits him at all.
4:02 Maybe if they use Broskis idea, they already have the drink animation from the drink follow up after the HK -> back HK -> long delay punch target combo at LVL 4 drink. It's only 2 frames longer than regular drink, but also moves you back. I think they can either keep it like that but maybe make it 60 frames (right now it's 52) just to justify the fact that once that activates, it's like a mini command backlash that give jamie two drinks. And even when he is at LVL 4 drink, will literally be a 1 drive gauge bar command backdash, as he will probably recover one bar from the two he spent on the EX. Edit: TBH idk cause theres a lot layers on this move. Just an example, a 60 FRAME BACKDASH sounds usless, keep in mind Ed's backdash from charged flicker is only 31 frames so imagine double that. Again it is 2 drinks but idk, just buff Jamie 🙏
For kimberly i think restoring can between rounds would be my pick fs. Giving her more opportunities to use can outside the corner would make her gameplan more interesting and mid screen set ups usable.
For Chun I think to add more to the level 1,add more hitstun so she is able to get closer for Oki,but nerf damage scaling by increasing it for her level 2 to compensate
Kimberly - Oh God. I hate this change, but you also got a point. The amount of SA1 I bait is ridiculous. I think this would only increase if it was "cheaper". Ken - I really like this change. It's not an outright nerf, but it gives you more way to interact with his offense. That's kinda what they did with Bison though. Reducing pushback makes it so that he can't create spacing traps as easy as he could before, but it doesn't make the special move any less stupid. Marisa - Changing Gladius like that kinda neuters Scutum though. Scutum having an extra point of armor isn't something so important that would still make it the preferred reversal. I would say that a better change for her is making charged jHP and jHK cause tumbling state on hit. It's still too small, but at least makes previous change make sense. Ed - I agree, but how come more Eds doesn't use this? EW, Leshar, Momochi, Tachikawa, Brine, they all just dash and go for a throw. This option is bonkers, but for some reason no one uses it... Bison - Still top tier after this, but good changes honestly. I think he also needs scaling on sHP. That thing is way too safe and almost always guarantees a bomb plant on any hit.
regarding kimberly, if she doesn't get invul reversal then they should remove Rashid's invul DP for consistency. They're both mix up heavy character but then kimberly has lower dmg, no invul DP, no utility level 2, makes no sense imo
@@disonalvan Literally the point of having different characters in a videogame is to provide variety. They dont need to nerf everyone to have the same bad tools they need to give different characters a variety of unique strengths.
May I also suggest one system change that during combos EX specials force the same drive cooldown that DRC does so you can't do 2 ex in a combo and then go into oki with like 3.5 bars still online.
The only thing that makes me worried about the rashid change is that its possible that he doesnt get anything after m spike > lvl2 if they neutral get up. An increase in speed might mean you can't push them out of the way to get the strike throw mix. But maybe it can be worked around idk
Both those games are great! I promise not everyone thinks they aren't "real" fighting games but the overall SF community is great and the game is super fun when you get into it, especially the drive system.
Why are you telling if I'm not sub Cammy's got buffed? It's obvious he is going to be nerfed (this or the next patch) Reducing health it's very bad design for character. Then why's not lowered a Zangief hp on 1000?
As a Manon player I feel like your ed change would be huge. Getting in against a flicker spamming ed is pain. They’d at least have to represent the back sway cancel
I'm not expecting anything huge like throw loops being removed or any character to be destroyed. As a Marisa players, only thing I want for her is for scutum to not leave her in a mix up when she lands it. Let her get a light confirm on hit even if they scale it.
To remove throw loops, all they need to do is give you 4f wakeup throw protection. It's very unlikely that it would happen in this patch, but if they don't want to go through and regulate frames and distances of every character, this would be the lazy way.
Every jamie player has a different idea for him lol, but we all agree something would be nice. Ex drink is a pretty common idea, but longer animation would make it useless. Normal drink after a knockdown is still not super safe, especially against fast DRs; longer animation just means it’s never getting used. My dream is that dive kick and bakkai are not locked behind drinks but the ex versions are. That or the moves get improved someway with the drinks. There’s no reason for these to be locked behind drinks when Cammy has better versions of those moves with no resources.
I appreciate that Chun buff, I always forget how much less it does compared to the average level 1. I figured it's because it has some extra utility as an anti-air.
This video is very entertaining and easy to listen to. I like listening to your videos while I’m on a walk or something, do you think maybe next time you could read out all of the proposed changes as you type them? Thanks for making all these great videos!
Tbh, I'd rather have less pushback on Manon's lp, than being able to do counterhit into medium. Realistically the dream buff is a 6-frame medium, which is the best of both worlds, and a consistently good punish to drive reversal, but I'll legit just take the pushback buff if I couldn't be greedy lol.
I think another change for akuma that i think it fair is his hashogeki should be recognizable the version he used in other way that is not the startup like jinrai kicks where u can tell by audio ques by yeah that is also fine
The gief nerf is way more significant than it seems because a very common situation for gief is drive rush stand mp into strike/throw mixup, and the 2nd hit of the tc is usually the most reliable strike option at the ranges youd tend to go for this at... ...however if thats all we got hit with ill be getting on my knees wether its for jesus or for capcom
to get rid of throw loops, its very easy, KOF has been doing it for many years, that is wake up chars to gain a few frames of throw inv. i suppose capcom can make that normal throws only, command throws still works
4:30 His level two should allow him to hold two drink stocks after use at max after the install is done. Or some sort of adjustment with the level two it would help with his pacing throughout the rounds. Idk
I hope they go with the Akuma nerf Broski suggested. It's annoying how easy he can get out of the corner w/ Demon Flip, it's basically a meterless version of Ken's season 1 EX air tatsu which had like no recovery
I think for Ed, only Medium Psycho Flicker should get the DI nerf With regular throw spacing in corner, Light Flicker does not connect. As well as this, you have to meaty Flicker *insanely* precisely in order for it to beat DI on wakeup. *And* with the existence of PP, or waiting to EX DP after Ed drags you in, his options on wakeup, while still strong, are fairly limited as is. With only nerfing Medium, he has to be a lot riskier from extended ranges, which would add to the guessing games and actually be more fun to play with. I definitely don't disagree with the punish, but hurting his light and ex psycho flicker in neutral and making him even weaker to DI than he already is would be awful to play with. Honestly I'd rather get rid of the Dream Combo than have to deal with randomly Drive Impacting players being rewarded with a third to even half of my health just for trying to play in my range. The amount of times I lose games from whiffing a DP or my opponent using DI against my high commitment hit confirms is infuriating.
I know this is a "REACH" lol but i really hope they improve or change Modern Dalsim specifically, I hate having my antii-airs mapped to the same button that puts out the moves that are super jump vulerable.
13:53 I've been playing Deejay more lately and the only change I'd want for him this patch is less pushback on 2LK. He's very weak to people just walking out of his pressure right now since 5LP>2LK>2LP doesn't work without drive rush and he doesn't have a cancellable 2MK
Thing I want is a universal increase to "X invul" frames. There's so many "air invul" that loses to jump ins and "projectile invul" that gets clipped by projectiles. It's idiotic and I loathe it
Nice video Broski! 4:24 While I agree that we shouldn’t take out uniqueness I feel that Jamie’s true problem is that he doesn’t stand out far enough. It feels like this characters has a constant tug of war between being a accessible rival to Luke, the 3rd iteration of the Fei-Long function, and himself the tricky drunken character. Not only are his versions of his lineage’s moves just not great in a vacuum, two whole other characters have better ingame verisons of the rekka and divekick. Jamie has a whole unique mechanic of recovering drive gauge that is locked off to a part of the match where he should already be running over the other character. I’d honestly trade in some of his generic street fighter strengths for more meter gain gimmicky ones. Of course my problems come from someone who has seen and played 4-6, newer players playing him aren’t gonna have my specific issues and I don’t even think Capcom “made him wrong” as that’d be a really dumb and self important thing ti say. He’s my favorite new character they’d ever made and idc if he stays low tier but I want to lose as “Jamie the low tier” and not “Bad Cammy/Fei-Long”
@ sure! To be clear I don’t think that Jamie is Fei Long 2. So I probably should have put at the end Cammy/Twins to make it more clear. But I only bring up Fei to emphasize that Jamie is inspired by 3 previous characters and has none of their strength’s within the context of his own game. He’s not absurdly safe like Yang nor has the afterimages, he doesn’t bulldoze people like Yun, he has to space his rekkas like Fei but they are awful on block and DI prone. Yes design wise and lore wise he is mostly taking from the twins but all 3 take from Fei so I only bring it up as a reference point to show strictly within a gameplay sense he’s just a worse version of 3 other people and a whole other character in the game is just him without restrictions. Animations, his design, theme, personality of course are all his own and are 🔥
As a Chun player, a buff I’ve been wanting is to give OD hazanshu a 2 frame faster startup so that 4hp will naturally combo into it. This is because right now OD hazanshu is pretty useless unless you’re using it for fireballs, but even then it’s not that good. Then again, I’m not really sure if this would be too strong or if she really needs it cause she isn’t that bad right now. Capcom will probably end up doing something like letting the second part of OD legs to cancel into lvl 3 however.
Kim’s never getting her invincible OD back. They buffed her a while ago by letting it combo into her lv2. That was pretty much the nail in the coffin for that dream. No way they let any character get away with 3k damage off a reversal. Akuma can’t even do that. Reverting that specific buff for an invincible reversal is an interesting debate. Essentially trading offense and damage for defense on a character with the worst neutral in the game anyway. I’d personally prefer better frame data on v edge. Make the light version as degenerate as scissor kick. Let Kim have something annoying that doesn’t risk getting her killed.
Yes Kim had invincible reversal in the beta, but she couldn't cancel into level 2 super. Who in this game can get a reversal and combo like that? Jp kinda I guess. If I wanted to be cheap I'd say "yesss... Give me invincibility on tatsu it's not that much to ask.." but nah I don't think it's gonna happen
Nerf demon flip i think adding more height to the jump would do some good let people actually punish it OD psycho crusher leaving at point blank on block is trash not when other characters can fly across the map and still be plus meterless...
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Shoutout to the guy in chat who said Manon's change should be that she's now from Belgium. Thats the buff she needs
That's a nerf
@@Aggrofool With this change, if Manon wants to say 90, she says "Nonante" instead of that ridiculous "Quatre-vingt-dix". That's objectively a buff
@@Hurtdeer Small brain take
Nah France has more rond-points than Belgium, so Manon belongs there.
@@PokAmakute typical francophone rudeness. Actually thats another buff. Now Manon is less rude
4:36 'bigger thighs? oh that's a good suggestion, im taking that one' what a cut lmao
The tweet said everyone is getting changes, but my bet is the characters we think aren't really needing changes are getting adjustments to their Modern controls.
Probably, that, target combos or certain EX moves that currently serve no purpose
For Jamie, maybe they can do something like G?
G can do some of his power up moves by doing EX move at 0 level, so a Jamie that can breakdance / Dive Kick or Command Grab by spending Drive Meter could be a good idea or completely broken ? I don't known.
One of the best ideas I heard in a while and it's still too much for Jamie looool. But don't feel bad none of us know what should be done with Jamie. We're just waiting for the day Capcom accepts to make him Top tier.
That’d be sick as heck, and I think that would make him at least decent.
@@numa2k147I can think of one.... Add in the twins, and let Jamie be the Dan character. Stupid but idk what else to do...
@@Araxhii Here's another idea ; not do what you just said. Turning almost any existing character into a joke character for no good reason just results in the character's fans/players becoming baffled or alienated and rarely anything is ever gained from doing such a thing
As a Jamie main, I wish getting him to 4 drinks was actually worth all the oki/neutral sacrifice. He should become like Jealous Rage A.B.A. and becomes an absolute offense monster if he's gonna lose the powerup at Round Start anyway.
OR...for every Drink he has he gets a half-bar of Super at the next Round Start, so at least getting all those drinks in don't go completely to waste.
Nah man, Ryu gotta have his Outfit 3 be free.
How dare Capcom give him drip and be charged 15 dollars
I think it's still on sale now.Around five bucks, if you can get it.
Its 8, but rn all outfit 3 is $5 until dec 6 i believe
Im gonna choose to believe someone at capcom randomly saw the patch prediction video, and was like "oh damn we havent done a patch in a while" and it led to this december patch
As a 6 Deejay main, and knowing him in 4 - that's fair. The Deejay glow up was real, gotta stay grounded.
Big facts, my brodi.
They gonna break gief knees
why is there a Translate to English option for your comment?
@@Aggrofool if you just pressed it you’d find out
@@AggrofoolGeif in Luxembourgish
Being a Chun Main feels good. She is never at a bad spot and never in danger of getting nuked either.
I'm hoping they just revert the scaling on 5HK back to season 1 - selfishly I'm much better at executing that one than the 2HP combo.
Getting the fastest walk back again would be nice too.
Guile and Cammy too
@@animegeorge2718juri
I just wished they fixed her supers dropping on hit from tip range, and Tensho Kicks being really inconsistent.
What are you talking about? Chun has been the target of numerous dumb nerfs since SF4. It's not even that she's nerfed, but the things that made her good in the past are gone now and have been stolen by buttface Cammy particularly her walkspeed and her Hazanshu's ability to counter projectiles, apply pressure and use in combos are now in Cammy's Quick Spin Knuckle.
The timing of your earlier video was so on point, that I thought the next day I missed the announcement of the patch, and that your video was actually because of the news lmao. Both fantastic videos as well!
The Ryu change is funny because you and Ryu have almost the same hair style :)
Omg your in the ryu discord lol
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That buff to Terry would be SIGNIFICANT
With Gief’s mp target combo the thing still whiffs on second hit at unreasonable ranges if it becomes more unsafe the consistency on hit to get a full confirm needs to be buffed AGAIN to make it confirm more consistently rather than really guessing if it’s gonna connect or not
Manon will go untouched in any meaningful way.
Grappler history. If only the other two got the same treatment as her. It's such a shame too because she's such a unique and cool character but the way the devs keep neglecting her is very questionable and feels biased
You wish. She will be ignored for 5 years and then receive a major nerf in the last balance update when they announce Street Fighter 7.
Being a grappler means people want you nerfed
Makes sense. She has some tournament success, and Capcom doesn't want another overbuffed Gief situation.
@@butterfreedom5357 this is the troof right here lmao.
Aki-buffed
Juri- nerfed
Totally unbiased broski take
The Blanka change going against system mechanics fits the character honestly. He is the only character with a divekick who can do it from a back jump. Lily used to be able to but they considered that a bug and removed it, so it's only Blanka that can break the rules.
Fortnite Ryu 2 soon. Even more buffs
I genuinely think so many Ken players would drop him with those jinrai changes. Not like it's the biggest nerf, but Ken players would cry from the rooftops at not having a safe pressure ender to buffer into.
Hey Kimberly main here. I don't want her to have an invincible ex Tatsu because as of right now she could convert it into LV2 and a disgusting mid screen +4 strike/throw afterwards. That is way too much.
Instead i would love if they would walk further down the 234LP road. It was buffed so it can be used as a footsies tool and gives a followup with good spacing but it still has horrible scaling. Cancelling into LV3 almost seems like a waste.
234LP should reward you more if you place it well, whiff punish with it or use it as a trade tech followup. Maybe Capcom can dial back some of that scaling
Dhalsim needs float hurtbox fixed to match the visuals. Currently you can be floating well above the guy's head, and you can get hit by di, and so many things that don't visually connect.
I've wanted EX Drink since the beginning but I don't want or need two levels. I just want a hit of Armor so i can parry a sonic boom while drinking....
Yooo they could give him a sassy animation where he like sticks his finger out going "one sec I'm drinking" too to show it's armored
I would love that so much actually
For Ryu this is definitely a selfish useless buff but I wish they would make air EX Tatsu launch higher so he can land a level 1 after it. Currently,no matter what you do after a big combo using that as an ender the enemy launches too far and hits the ground too fast for it to connect so as a combo junkie I'd like more fun for him
He could do that in SF 4
if you are 3/4ths of the way to the corner ex tatsu actually links into level 1
@@rockyino99Yep and Combo trials show I think but either way can be done On both M and C (M can go all Manual for the same damage to)
Man that AKI change is sorely needed. The hitbox for her HP Lash is so wonky it's insane, not even on jump-ins either. Sometimes it'll shave Giefs chest hair and he'll be fine but then on some Devil's Reverse entries it'll hit Bison on the head in a different timeline. That is if it hits him at all.
lmfao 14:38 I literally said out loud while watching "light counter hit into a medium"... 1 second before you did... amazing
Big boy with big brains 😮
4:02 Maybe if they use Broskis idea, they already have the drink animation from the drink follow up after the HK -> back HK -> long delay punch target combo at LVL 4 drink. It's only 2 frames longer than regular drink, but also moves you back. I think they can either keep it like that but maybe make it 60 frames (right now it's 52) just to justify the fact that once that activates, it's like a mini command backlash that give jamie two drinks. And even when he is at LVL 4 drink, will literally be a 1 drive gauge bar command backdash, as he will probably recover one bar from the two he spent on the EX.
Edit: TBH idk cause theres a lot layers on this move. Just an example, a 60 FRAME BACKDASH sounds usless, keep in mind Ed's backdash from charged flicker is only 31 frames so imagine double that. Again it is 2 drinks but idk, just buff Jamie 🙏
For kimberly i think restoring can between rounds would be my pick fs.
Giving her more opportunities to use can outside the corner would make her gameplan more interesting and mid screen set ups usable.
Broski being an undead unluck fan? Based
As a Marisa main I expect nothing and will probably still be disappointed
For Chun I think to add more to the level 1,add more hitstun so she is able to get closer for Oki,but nerf damage scaling by increasing it for her level 2 to compensate
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Kimberly - Oh God. I hate this change, but you also got a point. The amount of SA1 I bait is ridiculous. I think this would only increase if it was "cheaper".
Ken - I really like this change. It's not an outright nerf, but it gives you more way to interact with his offense. That's kinda what they did with Bison though. Reducing pushback makes it so that he can't create spacing traps as easy as he could before, but it doesn't make the special move any less stupid.
Marisa - Changing Gladius like that kinda neuters Scutum though. Scutum having an extra point of armor isn't something so important that would still make it the preferred reversal. I would say that a better change for her is making charged jHP and jHK cause tumbling state on hit. It's still too small, but at least makes previous change make sense.
Ed - I agree, but how come more Eds doesn't use this? EW, Leshar, Momochi, Tachikawa, Brine, they all just dash and go for a throw. This option is bonkers, but for some reason no one uses it...
Bison - Still top tier after this, but good changes honestly. I think he also needs scaling on sHP. That thing is way too safe and almost always guarantees a bomb plant on any hit.
Bison’s sHP does has starter scaling, but not combo scaling.
regarding kimberly, if she doesn't get invul reversal then they should remove Rashid's invul DP for consistency. They're both mix up heavy character but then kimberly has lower dmg, no invul DP, no utility level 2, makes no sense imo
@@disonalvan Literally just got out of a Rashid match and came back to this comment I saw earlier. Dude needs to get a grip.
If you have trouble against Kim you got a reaction problem. You probably hate Drive Rush too even tho its easy to stop.
@@disonalvan Literally the point of having different characters in a videogame is to provide variety. They dont need to nerf everyone to have the same bad tools they need to give different characters a variety of unique strengths.
The only change I want for deejay is for ex sway medium to have the same bounce as sway medium pc
May I also suggest one system change that during combos EX specials force the same drive cooldown that DRC does so you can't do 2 ex in a combo and then go into oki with like 3.5 bars still online.
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The only thing that makes me worried about the rashid change is that its possible that he doesnt get anything after m spike > lvl2 if they neutral get up. An increase in speed might mean you can't push them out of the way to get the strike throw mix. But maybe it can be worked around idk
This probably a way bigger update than we getting
Chun-Li's 1700 of Grounded SA 1 damage sounds-a like a SP+Heavy input from M without the Manual input way which can also be done on-a M
Why am i watching this at 7:00 am? I play rivals and gg not sf.
Eventually you'll pick up a real fighting game. This is a good entry point
You should play SF though
Both those games are great! I promise not everyone thinks they aren't "real" fighting games but the overall SF community is great and the game is super fun when you get into it, especially the drive system.
@@Dhampire1976Anime fighters are real. Stfu
@@Dhampire1976I am so sad that I have to share a community with obnoxious gatekeepers
Why are you telling if I'm not sub Cammy's got buffed? It's obvious he is going to be nerfed (this or the next patch)
Reducing health it's very bad design for character. Then why's not lowered a Zangief hp on 1000?
As a Manon player I feel like your ed change would be huge. Getting in against a flicker spamming ed is pain. They’d at least have to represent the back sway cancel
I'm not expecting anything huge like throw loops being removed or any character to be destroyed. As a Marisa players, only thing I want for her is for scutum to not leave her in a mix up when she lands it. Let her get a light confirm on hit even if they scale it.
Chun - EX taunt, creates rolling juggle on punish counter
It's funny how flicker in sfv and sf6 are both op despite them being different moves
Nerf Gief by replacing him with Abigail. No trailer, no announcement, Gief is gone and Abigail suddenly shows up
That's a killer buff. I'm all for it
To remove throw loops, all they need to do is give you 4f wakeup throw protection. It's very unlikely that it would happen in this patch, but if they don't want to go through and regulate frames and distances of every character, this would be the lazy way.
Every jamie player has a different idea for him lol, but we all agree something would be nice. Ex drink is a pretty common idea, but longer animation would make it useless. Normal drink after a knockdown is still not super safe, especially against fast DRs; longer animation just means it’s never getting used.
My dream is that dive kick and bakkai are not locked behind drinks but the ex versions are. That or the moves get improved someway with the drinks. There’s no reason for these to be locked behind drinks when Cammy has better versions of those moves with no resources.
I appreciate that Chun buff, I always forget how much less it does compared to the average level 1.
I figured it's because it has some extra utility as an anti-air.
so hairstyle improves meads a slight lowering of his hurt box, like two ticks
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This video is very entertaining and easy to listen to. I like listening to your videos while I’m on a walk or something, do you think maybe next time you could read out all of the proposed changes as you type them? Thanks for making all these great videos!
I wonder, how hard would it be to modify the install timer to show how many hits things like Rashid and Ed Level 2 have left
My suggested DeeJay change is for his default costume to have the MAXIMUM pants as well
ouuff can't wait for Ryus hairstyle improvments
The thing about John Capcom is, he buffs Cammy whether you do what he says or not.
It would be cool if Jaime could spend drinks to buff his moves.
Like he can spend a drink at lvl 1 to get the max drink version of a move.
I'm assuming the update is going to be a universal change which would change every character technically
Tbh, I'd rather have less pushback on Manon's lp, than being able to do counterhit into medium. Realistically the dream buff is a 6-frame medium, which is the best of both worlds, and a consistently good punish to drive reversal, but I'll legit just take the pushback buff if I couldn't be greedy lol.
I think another change for akuma that i think it fair is his hashogeki should be recognizable the version he used in other way that is not the startup like jinrai kicks where u can tell by audio ques by yeah that is also fine
The gief nerf is way more significant than it seems because a very common situation for gief is drive rush stand mp into strike/throw mixup, and the 2nd hit of the tc is usually the most reliable strike option at the ranges youd tend to go for this at...
...however if thats all we got hit with ill be getting on my knees wether its for jesus or for capcom
to get rid of throw loops, its very easy, KOF has been doing it for many years, that is wake up chars to gain a few frames of throw inv. i suppose capcom can make that normal throws only, command throws still works
20:33 Somebody ban Josteff.
4:30 His level two should allow him to hold two drink stocks after use at max after the install is done. Or some sort of adjustment with the level two it would help with his pacing throughout the rounds. Idk
Ah yes bigger thighs for Chun Li a classic buff now all of her normals with kicks do extra damage
4:25 THANK YOU, YES, this is exactly what I despise
I hope they go with the Akuma nerf Broski suggested. It's annoying how easy he can get out of the corner w/ Demon Flip, it's basically a meterless version of Ken's season 1 EX air tatsu which had like no recovery
just becuz capcom is likely gonn nerf zangief doesnt mean u hav to???
I think for Ed, only Medium Psycho Flicker should get the DI nerf
With regular throw spacing in corner, Light Flicker does not connect. As well as this, you have to meaty Flicker *insanely* precisely in order for it to beat DI on wakeup. *And* with the existence of PP, or waiting to EX DP after Ed drags you in, his options on wakeup, while still strong, are fairly limited as is.
With only nerfing Medium, he has to be a lot riskier from extended ranges, which would add to the guessing games and actually be more fun to play with.
I definitely don't disagree with the punish, but hurting his light and ex psycho flicker in neutral and making him even weaker to DI than he already is would be awful to play with. Honestly I'd rather get rid of the Dream Combo than have to deal with randomly Drive Impacting players being rewarded with a third to even half of my health just for trying to play in my range. The amount of times I lose games from whiffing a DP or my opponent using DI against my high commitment hit confirms is infuriating.
Wow Broski actually knows John Capcom. He's made it
I know this is a "REACH" lol but i really hope they improve or change Modern Dalsim specifically, I hate having my antii-airs mapped to the same button that puts out the moves that are super jump vulerable.
EX drink would be perfect ive wanted that since launch
Hope for Cammy downfall get the Luke treatment of put more Scaling in her CMP-MK cancels in Drive Rush.
How many comment sections is this gonna be copy pasted in
Get your own original comment,anime pfp
@@Dhampire1976it's facts tho
I don't care what nerfs she gets, I just wanna see her less often. She's so damn annoying. Genuinely the only character I've never had fun fighting
@@_ADiSSY And already have 6 Cammys in CCXI (3 Mains and 3 Secondaries)
13:53 I've been playing Deejay more lately and the only change I'd want for him this patch is less pushback on 2LK. He's very weak to people just walking out of his pressure right now since 5LP>2LK>2LP doesn't work without drive rush and he doesn't have a cancellable 2MK
Luke is not in a really good spot, he needs a neutral rework, he struggles without burning 3 bars, I would buff his tackle stance.
@Broski Are you from New Zealand? What are the fighting animals in your intro called again? Also, great vid and great patch ideas.
capybara
8 views in a minute broski is doing just fine
Thing I want is a universal increase to "X invul" frames.
There's so many "air invul" that loses to jump ins and "projectile invul" that gets clipped by projectiles.
It's idiotic and I loathe it
Broski should start giving us some numbers to play the lottery.
I want a better reversal for Manon. But that might be too much. But lp -5 might be the answer
Joke's on you Broski I loved Dee Jay back in sf4
Zangief now sbd now has partial grey health!
Jamie ex palm needs to go through fireballs. It'll change his neutral against the good zoners.
Nice video Broski! 4:24 While I agree that we shouldn’t take out uniqueness I feel that Jamie’s true problem is that he doesn’t stand out far enough. It feels like this characters has a constant tug of war between being a accessible rival to Luke, the 3rd iteration of the Fei-Long function, and himself the tricky drunken character.
Not only are his versions of his lineage’s moves just not great in a vacuum, two whole other characters have better ingame verisons of the rekka and divekick. Jamie has a whole unique mechanic of recovering drive gauge that is locked off to a part of the match where he should already be running over the other character. I’d honestly trade in some of his generic street fighter strengths for more meter gain gimmicky ones.
Of course my problems come from someone who has seen and played 4-6, newer players playing him aren’t gonna have my specific issues and I don’t even think Capcom “made him wrong” as that’d be a really dumb and self important thing ti say.
He’s my favorite new character they’d ever made and idc if he stays low tier but I want to lose as “Jamie the low tier” and not “Bad Cammy/Fei-Long”
If you don't mind me asking, why do you think he's a new version of Fei, instead of Yun and Yang?
@ sure! To be clear I don’t think that Jamie is Fei Long 2. So I probably should have put at the end Cammy/Twins to make it more clear. But I only bring up Fei to emphasize that Jamie is inspired by 3 previous characters and has none of their strength’s within the context of his own game.
He’s not absurdly safe like Yang nor has the afterimages, he doesn’t bulldoze people like Yun, he has to space his rekkas like Fei but they are awful on block and DI prone.
Yes design wise and lore wise he is mostly taking from the twins but all 3 take from Fei so I only bring it up as a reference point to show strictly within a gameplay sense he’s just a worse version of 3 other people and a whole other character in the game is just him without restrictions.
Animations, his design, theme, personality of course are all his own and are 🔥
Power Dunk will actually combo without CH from max distance but it's still pretty stupid.
They should give Kimberly infinite bombs.
I always giggle when u say Akuma
As a Chun player, a buff I’ve been wanting is to give OD hazanshu a 2 frame faster startup so that 4hp will naturally combo into it. This is because right now OD hazanshu is pretty useless unless you’re using it for fireballs, but even then it’s not that good. Then again, I’m not really sure if this would be too strong or if she really needs it cause she isn’t that bad right now. Capcom will probably end up doing something like letting the second part of OD legs to cancel into lvl 3 however.
Capcom cup qualifier. Well done lad
The only change I need is a new hairstyle for ed.
Oh yay, an Undead Unluck collab where we get a bunch of Battle Hub costume trash that's not worth paying for in the slightest. yaay.
Swear I thought I was subscribed already, at least I know they won't buff Cammy now
Kim’s never getting her invincible OD back. They buffed her a while ago by letting it combo into her lv2. That was pretty much the nail in the coffin for that dream. No way they let any character get away with 3k damage off a reversal. Akuma can’t even do that. Reverting that specific buff for an invincible reversal is an interesting debate. Essentially trading offense and damage for defense on a character with the worst neutral in the game anyway. I’d personally prefer better frame data on v edge. Make the light version as degenerate as scissor kick. Let Kim have something annoying that doesn’t risk getting her killed.
That dhalsim change will make the dhalsim vs grapplers even worse.
as it should lol it's dhalsim
Buff the grapplers then. It's not like both don't need help in the game
Poor Zangief having to deal with top tier broken Dhalsim.
Undead unluck is amazing. hopefully they give jamie a skin, I could maybe see top working there
Thats copium sadly 😓
@@joaquinbitancor1269 let me have something man
Yes Kim had invincible reversal in the beta, but she couldn't cancel into level 2 super. Who in this game can get a reversal and combo like that? Jp kinda I guess.
If I wanted to be cheap I'd say "yesss... Give me invincibility on tatsu it's not that much to ask.." but nah I don't think it's gonna happen
SPD Heals opponent and make Cammy bald😂😂😂 these balance ideas are cooking
Lol the callout on Kimberly players 😂😂
Nerf demon flip i think adding more height to the jump would do some good let people actually punish it
OD psycho crusher leaving at point blank on block is trash not when other characters can fly across the map and still be plus meterless...
To Deejay players: shut up and take what you get! 😢
Anyone else having buzzing sound on last few videos when Broski is talking?
northernlion mic
I'm sorry broski (I didn't say anything but you deserve an apology)