Why MUI vs TUI is One-Sided! | Better Form?
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- Why MUI vs TUI is One-Sided! | Better Form? Mastered Ultra Instinct vs True Ultra Instinct, Goku's best forms so far! but which form is better?
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you should do mystic/ultimate mode vs sjj 4 form since its stated that gohan is more superior than ssj3 and 2
let me tell you that the normal mui is weaker than tui goku but mui spiritual avatar is stronger than true ui
So basically, MUI is like a gold pickaxe, and TUI is like an iron pickaxe (Minecraft)
couldnt have said it better
Best explanation 😂
Prolly more like mui being a gold pickaxe, because of how fast it is, but tui is a diamond pick. Not as fast but longer durability
@@sc_eliteiron is also slower with better dura
Yup
10 years ago there was a small youtuber who said 'Gokus strongest form will look like his base form' and I just wonder where they are right now and what they are doing
White hair and black hair are completely different tho
@@undefinedYT The other forms make him increase or decrease in size slightly, and make his hair spiky, or in some cases (ssj3) make his hair much longer, whereas these forms literally do nothing but change his hair colour
@@kidgaming6529 im not talking about physique rn
@@undefinedYT the point is of all the forms mui easily represents his base the most closely
@@undefinedYTyou clearly can't read😂
True - efficient
Mastered - effective
TUI
Passive: Gain +100% speed and strength for as long as form is active
MUI
Passive: Gain +200% speed, strength and durability for 60 seconds, every next 30 seconds after loose 50% of speed, strength and durability till it's 50%
This is probably the best description. Goku mui accuracy is worse over time that's why granolah beat mui because he discover mui drawback and use that to gain adventage by let goku mui accuracy worse enough for granolah to knock goku out cold
True UI isn’t even a new form. It’s the same Omen state just being used differently (not like an angel, but like a Saiyan). Plus it’s more compatible with his natural base instincts compared to a Super Saiyan form
Yeah, this tracks. I think TMUI will then probably use the same silver-haired transformation, just, again, used differently.
@@Glaceon_GuyYes, Goku learned to use Mui whitout a calm mind, so he keeps his emotions.
@@ÉmileMelançonbuddy you can't use MUI's powers properly with an uncalm heart, it's been shown multiple times in the Manga, it can only be used properly with a calm heart which Goku himself told Gas before their fight.
@@raiden8991 Just one problem with that: The "calm heart" version of UI is arguably just Whis' telling of his own version of UI. Among angels, a calm heart is their apex potential. Among saiyans, it's different, and that's gotta be why Whis finally was like "fuck it, find your own version". The avenues and interpretations of sensory and mental inputs that an angel uses for UI aren't the same as what a saiyan would use. I'll bet you Whis was only bitten by Goku in that pre-ToP scene because angelic UI doesn't pick up on that shit, but saiyan UI would've seen it a mile away because that's precisely the kind of barbaric shit it would look for.
@@Glaceon_Guy Buddy Goku literally told Gas that he needs to keep his heart calm in order to use the silver haired form to it's full potential, the reason why he was losing to Gas earlier with Vegeta is because he wasn't able to keep his heart calm which restricted the form from evolving, Whis literally told Goku to one use the silver haired form if the situation is dire, when Goku at end used MUI the right way he was easily able to overpower an an even stronger Gas by Grabbing and throwing him into space with his ki avatar.
The whole narrative about Goku biting whis was a GAG scene that was only seen in the anime not the Manga lol.
Bro just stop using this headcanon about "saiyan UI" cuz UI carries the same concept and emotions only hinder it's growth which is why Goku wasn't even able to hold the black haired form longer than he should have.
It's 2024, the silver haired form IS Goku strongest form. DB fans can't read or comprehen even if their lives depend on it and think "TUI" which is a term created by them, is superior to MUI.
What they call TUI is just U.I omen/sign but with more liberty of using his emotions without losing power.
fr, bro doesn't ahve 'true' UI yet. He's still in the phase of using UI as a form and not a state. His silver haired form is the current SSJ3. Super strong but taxing on his mortal body.
basically, true ultra instinct is just the technique applied to his base form
while mastered ultra instinct is the actual transformation
Kinda like ultimate gohan which looks like his base form
but beast gohan actually has that power multiplier of ssj2
@@sirius_solaris using the word current for ssj3 makes it seem like that form will ever get over its stamina drain.
mui is like that strogest character in the game but you dont know how to play whit
tui is like your fav or og character in the game it dont have the same hax but you fell good playing whit it
Probably best way to describe it
De i use hax over the strongest ie i use sasuke over naruto so…. Hax and skill > power
@@aayewhyy hot take from me sauke is stronger than naruto but the plot
@@factsguy2006 i feel you he’s just better imo aswell but the show called Naruto so… i just said that to appease the fans
@@factsguy2006 Sasuke is more skilled than Naruto but Naruto is more powerful than Sasuke.
in the latest chapters beerus stated that mui is the strongest form of goku
To be fair, we don’t know if Beerus has even seen TUI yet
@@darknessemblemflame3036whis would of corrected him if he was wrong
Timeskip
CURRENTLY the strongest form
@@onekidgamer577 I mean all Whis said was “it would seem so” vague. Unlike during the Tournament of Power where he objectively said “Perfected Ssb is the strongest form Goku has” I mean there’s also the fact that UI doesn’t just refer to the silver haired form but the technique in and of itself. Beerus didn’t specify the form
MUI looks better therefore it is better
Nah
It's just Goku with jizz hair lmao
@@Leo-Lapulga10 yeah
Looking better doesn’t mean it is better
TUI>>>
I like the idea of Goku using TUI more often even tho its weaker than MUI. I wanna see the form expanded upon in future arcs. Maybe next DB video could go over the SSJ grades and the multipliers since it’s kinda a point of contention among fans. Most notably the debate of whether or not Grade 4 is stronger than Grade 1.
Yeah. Imagine they actually recreate the hype of SSJ1 again in an intense fight with a new Ultra Instinct infused variant. That would actually be awesome and would look sick
Why are people debating between TUI and MUI when it's obvious Goku's obviously gonna reach TMUI eventually
This guy gets it. Clearly these different versions of UI all have their strengths and weaknesses. Goku has to learn to implement them all together.
That's hmdiwzi levels of strength
Honestly I took TUI as a step in him further mastering UI, TUI will become a part of the whole in his mastery of UI.
Can u make a video on explaining all forms of UI and their differences?
tf you mean "forms of UI". he just explained everything, TUI, UI omen and MUI those are the forms
@@yomadin difference between MUI and PUI
@@jithamithrank7647 tg is PUI?!
@@yomadin perfected UI
You forgot to mention that true ui can have its dodge overwritten if the power difference is large enough, as seen when beast Gohan managed to overwrite ui’s dodge in their fight in the newest chapters
Complete Ultra Instinct>Ultra Instinct (Goku's personal version)>Ultra Instinct Omen.
I saw a Reddit Comment and there stood that TUI is more stable but weaker than MUI, MUI is stronger than TUI but less stable
I think Goku has gotten rid of the issues he had before with Silver Ultra Instinct, as he is shown to have greater efficiency with the form in the latest chapter of the DBS manga and in chapter 102, Beerus and Whis did confirm that Silver Ultra Instinct is Goku strongest and best form.
The main issue is that goku needs to be calm to activate and that he can’t use his emotions. I doubt those are fixed, but I also know that he didn’t need to use them against gohan since he’s just sparring
@@blazeknight2629 It’s more of that it wouldn’t be a match for Gohan Beast, as after Goku went Silver Ultra Instinct, he said “No point in taking our time. Our best moves, right off the bat! Let’s go!” That conveys that both are using their best power ups against each other, which is supported by Beerus and Whis revealing that the Silver Ultra Instinct is his best form.
@@maximillianoorosco-randhaw9336 Same point as goku using ssb against krillen
@@blazeknight2629 Actually no, Goku at one did go all out and that was when he was trying to dodge Gohan Beast at full power. The manga panels showed him his face was contorted with strain in his efforts to dodge as he was doing his best not to get hit. And when Gohan does land two big hits against Goku, Vegeta was surprised that Gohan was able to bypass Ultra Instinct reactionary speed and Vegeta’s a reliable source since he’s been training with Goku on Beerus’s planet after the Granola Arc, so he would know Goku’s current limits.
@@maximillianoorosco-randhaw9336 Using ultra instinct, however we know that using emotions also amp sayains a lot as well
The final power up for goku I think will be him being able to use ui the silver haired form with his emotions while tui will be his base form. And with his other transformations his eyes in those forms will be silver.
I theorize that True Ultra Instinct is an upgraded form of Ultra Instinct ~Sign~ because Goku can harness emotions to power it up.
However, unlike Mastered Ultra Instinct (also known as Perfected Ultra Instinct), True Ultra Instinct focuses on emotional enhancement, not pure instinctive offense, making it distinct from the fully instinctual nature of Mastered/Perfected Ultra Instinct.
that last analogy was simply OP!!!
I think the final evolution for Goku’s Ultra Instinct will be Goku fighting so freely in his base form (similar to his fight vs Uub) that there will never be a need for him to transform into Super Saiyan for a power boost again. He will be so in touch with his natural instincts that he’ll be able to output the most effective and efficient use of his power that Super Saiyan forms wouldn’t be able to do (since they’re a set multiplier and they drain stamina). Then when the time comes for a last resort Goku can switch into MUI temporarily to seal the deal.
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TUI is just omen and mui > omen , only reason omen was cooking against gas in those scenes was because Goku was charging his form ( like in the anime when goku went mui ) and that’s why it was so strong against gas.
Bro its already been stated TUI is a enhanced form meaning its stronger than its predecessor so that doesn’t mean MUI beats TUI just cause its the same form just with emotions not saying MUI loses cause as of now currently MUI is way stronger than TUI it was weaker than TUI before the time skip
@@Rxndomjay its literally just a stronger version omen why did he use mui to finish off gas? We know that omen was getting stronger every sign in the tournament
@@begito9024 It was stated TUI drained his energy fast so maybe he couldnt tap into it again ever thought of that? or my theory is maybe MUI was stronger after adapting to gas cause we all know before that he was getting bodied
@@begito9024 It was stated TUI drained his energy fast so maybe he couldnt tap into it again ever thought of that? or my theory is maybe MUI was stronger after adapting to gas cause we all know before that he was getting bodied
@@Rxndomjay ui omen also drains energy faster
*Actually PUI is gokus strongest form but its only a last resort.
But TUI lasts way longer so overall its just a safer form for him to use.*
Mastered Ultra Instinct has far better feats while True Ultra Instinct has a better look to the form. Reminiscent of Omen. Perfect Vid!!!
The black hair looks so much doper then the white. Reminds me of Mysitc gohan
MUI has better Attack Power and is overall stronger but TUI has better versatility and flexibility
Mui in the anime is very different compared to the manga, where it’s more like the combination of MUI + TUI in the manga, you can see it by him constantly growing in the anime, fighting while enraged, and still have all the MUI property. MUI in the manga does not have that at all.
Ui in anime is just Ultra Goku 😂
5:56 minor correction but Kefla was actually still rivaling UI Omen’s power once she went SSJ2, both were causing the other to increase their power exponentially. Even at the very end of their fight it was made very apparent that either could’ve won the fight but since Goku had the superior form he pulled the victory.
That’s not what happened at all with gas. If you actually read the manga, MUI goku and UE vegeta were getting clapped by gas, TUI goku was a bit stronger than gas before he started to get cursed. Then goku uses MUI just to get the susano and launch gas off to space, as a way to get him off guard, as opposed to just trying to go grab him and try to throw him to space, and MUI goku didn’t "overwhelm" gas at all, as throwing someone to space isn’t really a better feat than fighting on par with someone. Obviously goku can only use the susano in MUI, not in TUI. Clearly TUI is superior, or goku would’ve used MUI to beat gas
Also you would have to completely ignore the narrative of TUI, as whis straight up tells goku that he needs to figure out his own version of UI, and TUI is what goku came up with, as a stronger alternative for MUI, again, that was the entire build up for that transformation, with the bardock stuff and goku fully understanding being a saiyan. As it was also built up that MUI isn’t really all that reliable, especially for long periods of time as it becomes less accurate
There was also literally no reason for goku to not use MUI as he was fully healed, but he opted for TUI instead, how would you explain that? And him getting destroyed by gas with vegeta by his side? Heck it was even just portrayed as being way better by him saving vegeta, who was going to get stronger than MUI goku
This is all not accounting that a transformation in DB has never been weaker than an older one, accept if it had a caveat. Saying MUI is stronger just doesn’t make sense at all, the best you could say is that the susano is goku’s strongest form, but not MUI itself
Facts, but for some reason in the latest chapters Goku is using MUI again instead of TUI.
Toyotaro definitely retconned and nerfed/deleted TUI or buffed MUI
You forgot that whis said MUI was Goku's trump card. That's why he used it at the end of the battle to throw Gas away. He saved it for the end which is what whis was talking about.
@@kirillheroes98 him using it doesn’t mean it’s better at all bro
@@beegpappa7900 you just repeated what the video said, and again, you’re just ignoring a lot of factors, for a very vague statement, and a throw
UI is goku’s trump card, I don’t remember whis specifically saying that MUI is better than TUI, as he has never even seen it, and even if whis said that MUI is goku’s trump card, that was before TUI, and again, that’s a very vague statement anyway. Again, if you actually read the manga, goku simply off guards gas and throws him to space right away, as gas only realized what was happening until goku had already grabbed him. Please tell me how that’s a better feat than anything TUI has done. Also, that specifically was the susano form, how can you prove that’s as strong as the normal MUI. And explain to me MUI getting clapped along with UE vegeta
Stop it mui is his strongest form stated by both whis beerus and the writer himself tui is just omen
Hey where do you find anime clips because they're very good quality
We need super saiyan 4 & 5 to become a thing to help with this plot thread I think it will work
No it would be a complete mess, those forms are too overpowered and it corrupts writing
@@undefinedYT facts
@undefinedYT they aren't any more overpowered than the ultra forms or beast, they'd probably open up new possibilities and bring back some gt characters.
Tui = ui sign but with Goku's saiyan nature using it so more attack less defense
Mui = Goku shutting down all his emotions for more power and benefits but can't keep it for long and the more tired he is in that form the less accurate mui is for goku
(More speed and defense and counterattacks that slowly becomes weaker and less accurate)
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I just found ur channel and already like ur videos, the way you explain and give valid points just makes it perfect, new sub earned
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Are there any tutorials on internet to edit in a similar way of this video?
Great video by the way!
Amazing analyzation like always avent!
Fuck both of these forms. Can't wait for Limit Breaker Goku
Great match
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Something that made me so angry with mui is the fact this man is getting punched so many times and being hit by beams yet in his un mastered form he didn’t let that slide that’s my problem with mui……never let mui cook when it comes to punches and beams
Wont be long for the SUPER SAIYAN MASTERED UI to come when he fights black freiza. Im calling it now
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1:45 - in a interview, toriyama said that goku is a selfish, self centered man who only cares about himself, doesn't care about his family or friends, and routinely makes bad decisions. for example, in the tournament of power, thanks to goku's greed and selfishness, several universes were destroyed and trillions of life forms were killed. that's genocide. 😳🤯😢
Imagine true mastered ultra instinct
5:49 Actually a weaker Goku because of his fight with Jiren, Kefla had the same energy as the U7 Spirit Bomb tho.
Waiting for True Mastered Ultra Instinct
It’s all about stamina issue and which can perform the longest we’ve seen some notable feats from both firms and its usage of power although mastered ultra instinct is a better true UI derives from goku’s heritage and power.
Bro goku can just go full mastered true autonomous ultra instinct.
Soon we will see a mtui 😂
If he and Vegeta kept their tails they would be able to keep control of their forms easier and last longer
what song did you use from 8:13 to 8:45?
So basically he Kakarot in MUI & Goku in TUI
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is it possible for goku to use mui with ssg? why or why not?
next there’s gonna be true mastered ultra instinct
Great vids but TUI still requires one’s mind to be calm to tame Goku’s saiyan instincts, the point Whis made when he was training Goku is that, no matter which state you’re in, if your mind is empty then yo body should move automatically, in the very same training he told I’m a different life form than you, I don’t have emotions like you saiyans do, so you need to find your version of UI, that was Whis telling Goku he needs to a way to make use of his heart (emotions) in his UI but he still told that empty mind is requirement before that, TUI is Goku letting his dormant instincts(violent nature of saiyans) out but he should not let his emotions corrupt his mind, it is what is clouding your judgement in fights, his mind won’t be clouded since his fighting purely on instincts, he’s letting his survival instincts carry him throughout the battle, which it is a lesson Bardock was put on the chapter to pass on, that you should have complete faith in your strength than anything hence “what sorta idiot would think about nothing but victory in a life or death battle” statement goes along those lines but the entire point is that Bardock was letting his resolve carry him throughout the battle. That’s why Gas told Goku’s your father’s resolve was like no other. Goku’s letting his saiyan instincts carry him throughout the battle, Both found way to hone their saiyan instincts, Vegeta too through his UE, his love for battle and it is saiyan instincts dominate your opponents in battle, Vegeta said before Frieza fighting was their way of living, they didn’t do for money or ulterior motive, they are like wild beasts that is their true nature, TUI is a pure saiyan free of everything that corrupts their minds or spirit. TUI’s fighting style is vastly different MUI than angel copy UI Goku used, which is why Whis told Goku to stop copying him, it more attack than defence while MUI is an automated calculator, TUI is going for the memo, he just went in and pressed Gas something he wouldn’t do if he was in MUI, that’s why Vegeta’s commented is this fighting style if it’s supposed to be ultra instinct and laughs at it, it’s because he sees something that is saiyan based, point is Goku still doesn’t think about his movements but he’s allowed to be his saiyan self.
What about PUI/perfected ultra instant vs tui/ True ultra instinct which is stronger
who was the artist who drew Goku on the right in the thumbnail?
When goku becomes old will his tui be mtui 🤔😱
Yeah the susanoo clone is already enough to convince me that white colored hair form is more op
So could he go ssj or ssb in this form as well?
Brooo I need a how smart Yuchi video pls 🙏🙏
TLDR; PUI (MUI) is the stronger variation of the two
Tldr, MUI iis stronger, reason why Goku choose tui is because he couldn't grow stronger in mui so he had to improvise. And in later chapter toriyama confirmed mui is the strongest form.
MUI- more powerful
TUI- more effective
Like how a saiyan feels more natural and more comfortable in Base than they do SSJ or Great Ape. Because those forms feel less natural to them as they can only use those forms under special conditions. That’s why most saiyans lose control.
So it’s hard to a mortal warrior with battle emotions to remain fully calm and resemble an Angel.
It’s obviously a better choice for them to pick the one that can use battle emotions.
Literally a Saiyan UI and an Angel UI.
Tui is such a lame form. Just Ui sign without the drawbacks of emotion, completely geting rid of the unique-ness of ultra instinct with it’s emotions
Exactly. I bet "TUI" won't even be used when they fight Black Frieza
TUI is just a foreshadow for goku's possible final transformation (probably will fuse it with super saiyan or something like that). MUI is for sure strongger, but he has no way to improve the tecnique, and will never have because like whiz said, he needs to develop his own (and MUI isn't his). And remember, saiyans get an insane boost for being anger, MUI loses that and gohan literally showed how op it was by picking goku by surprise. Goku probably fight better by mixing both like he did in granolla arc (and if we consider the manga as the most correct, for correcting many plot holes, you can see that we never ever saw goku anger on MUI, because he can't, he literally has to calm himself on moro's arc after meru's sacrifice, the Jiren scene makes no sense, especially if you consider that Jiren is a hero).
Before Super Hero, TUI has stronger raw power compare to MUI due to the emotion drive more power, but with worse self-movement and time limit, possibly even more so than normal Sign form. By the time of Super Hero, it was imply that MUI was evolved to the point it's Goku's all-around strogest form.
I don't want to start a war, I just wanna give my opinion based on what was shown.
TUI is stronger than MUI in my opinion, BUT it's not as efficient. Goku himself states that the form wouldn't last long, but was using it to get a raw power boost in order to defeat Gas before he could potentially grow stronger. I saw some comments saying Goku went into MUI to finish Gas off, but that's not really what happened.
Goku, even after getting thrashed by an aged Gas, was still planning to fight using TUI, Gas was just strong enough to knock him out, and in order to get Gas in a position where Granola could finish him off with that final blast, used MUI's ki avatar to grapple Gas and throw him into the air. He caught him off guard and acted swiftly, rather than blatantly overpowering him.
Ultra Instinct as an overall is Goku's "best trick," MUI is just better suited for sparring sessions at this point because its longevity is actually higher than TUI.
Bottom line, I think they're pretty relative in terms of use, I just think TUI has more raw power, while MUI has better hax and stamina as of now.
Tui is like a saiyan version but mui is like the angel version cuz he can auto dodge right
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Goku is Mortal so he won't be able to be stronger than whis until he damn near have to die to continue to get stronger. Whis and Beerus are Thousands of years old. No telling how old grand priest etc are
It lowkey bothers me how slow y’all dbs fans can be. Do y’all not realize “TUI” is literally just U.I Omen? Y’all made up this “True Ultra Instinct” nonsense and just ran with it 💀, im pretty sure it’s stated somewhere in the manga that Goku would use this improved U.I Omen and keep MUI as a last resort which literally implies MUI is stronger.
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8:56 what game is that
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He's not done transforming and mui still assumes all his power right now
True UI is just ui omen but with emotions with that goku can control better that form but if we talk about UI this is the strongest form of goku
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MUI is best for short battles
TUI is best for longer battles
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If Toriyama was still alive
TUI lowkey looks cooler in my opinion (as does Omen) 😅 for me, the super white/silver hair that MUI gives him just looks a bit much.
(I'm very well aware that appearance isn't everything, don't worry 😅)
@@thalmoragent9344 Silver hair is cooler cuz it makes him look angelic, and TUI is literally just omen as stated by Toyotaro.
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So basically vegeta by this explanation that’s vegeta next form arrogant in base but had they achieve there ui variants at the same time it would have mirrored each other. That’s why vegeta is weaker that a plot armor
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Tui is not canon theirfore mui wins because non canon characters cannot be scaled by the law of the feeding system
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I like this video
Mui is the stronger one tui is him using the form in his own
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True UI is absolutely contradictory and stupid. You CANNOT have emotions while accessing UI in the first place 😑
true ui is faster than mui due to mui not able to overpower gas but true ui managed to overpower gas and mui doesn't need control it controls the body itself but mui isn't faster than tui
@@Sh3aP1AYS re read the manga and the part where Gas asked Goku that his silver haired form since that indicated maximum strength, to which Goku replies he needs to have a calm heart to use it's powers properly.
And also read chapter 102 where whis confirms that PUI is Goku's strongest form.
And also going by feats when Goku used MUI the right was he overpowered an even stronger Gas by Grabbing him and throwing him into space.