Add some hose clamps to the T that was installed and any other hose connection points as well as tie the electric into the Fuse box if it's going to be a permanent fixture in the vehicle. A continuous parasitic draw like that can have long-term damage to not only the battery but the alternator as well. I had a trailer hitch installed on a 2010 Scion xB I had owned since it was brand new, and the electric was tied directly onto the battery. At about 60k miles the battery and alternator needed to be replaced, then both again at around 100k miles. I had the wiring for the trailer hitch inspected, it looked ok, but had it reworked so it went to the fuse box and I never had an issue after that. I had that car for about 280k miles without any other issues. So if you're going to leave anything permanently installed that draws power, route it through the fuse box and save yourself the headache later on.
You are so right. We searched months for a way to activate the reservoir ONLY when the engine was running. Using a voltage sensing switch like we do in our other kits does not work since there is constant 14 volts on the system. After many tests, we now have a switch that activates the reservoir generator ONLY when the engine is running. We have developed a mass air flow switch that is placed in the air filter box across the hose where fresh air enters the filter box before the filter. It is connected directly to the battery terminal in the fuse box. There is no drain on the battery when the engine is not running. The switch is open when there is no fresh air coming into the engine intake. As soon as the engine starts, it sucks air through the filter box and across the air flow switch as well. Within 4 seconds, the switch closes and the system is activated. We have tested this over 18 road hours. It works.
@@JoseRodriguez-fp1lr let us know what happens. We're here to expose the people profitting off good people trying to make a living...If it doesn't hold up, tell us. Tell everyone.
Exactly, this product is a smoke and mirrors scam. It uses the air from the pcv hose to generate the bubbles. I doubt that there is any actual circuitry in the entire kit.
Gasoline is not combustible without an oxidizer AKA oxygen that's why the engine has a compression stroke to atomize and mix the fuel with the oxygen then the fuel hit the flashpoint detonates this process continues as the Piston moves all the way down. The problem with hydrogen it does not need an oxidizer it does not need compression it will detonate immediately it prematurely detonating and so the motor will end up shutting off if it's not mixed properly but keep in mind this process will always happen destroying the exhaust valve NASA did studies on internal combustion engines running on hydrogen alone the main problem early detonation on compression stroke and burning up the exhaust valves also motor shutting off on exhaust stroke because there was no momentum it didn't have the downward Force the gasoline provided. The most important thing you have to worry about is the hydrogen turning back into water mixing with oxygen in the combustion chamber and really messing stuff up
@@gamble254 hmm, you talk like you know everything (i dont) but why do so many use this without problems? For the problems you are talking about there are simple sulutions on. You do this right it maight save you around 30% fuel on the mile
@@berntsrensen1217 not exactly thermal efficiency comes into play and amp draw from the alternator as well wich equals more force/gas needed and the hydrogen generators dont create enough gas to run the engine and if it did there would be more serious problems like predetonation wich will burn up your exhuasts valves as well so all in all there is about 70 percent efficiency through the process so if anything you may lose mileage but gain a cleaner burn at idle
I’m not sure if anyone asked this already but what do you do with this in the winter? I noticed a “freeze kit” but does that stay on constantly keeping the water from freezing while the vehicle isn’t running? I live on the NY/PA border and it can get down to -5F or a little colder will that split the plastic housing? If I added a extra electrolyte would that lower the freezing temperature and help with the water freezing without effecting the reaction process? Thanks in advance
Our Zero Freeze kit is your solution. It has an internal heater controlled by a micro processor that keeps the reservoir temp above 45 F all year round even when temps are -5F and below. The reservoir is covered with a double insulated mylar foam jacket that holds temperature well. When the sensor inside the reservoir senses 44 F it cycles the heater on for a minute or two until the solution temp reaches 50F. There the heater shuts off. It cycles on and off with more time being spent in the off status. Hence there is very little drain on the battery. About 1.2 amps over a 24 hour period when the outside temp is zero and below. The colder it is the faster the heater cycles off and on needing more current. We advise if you are not going to start the vehicle within a 48 hour period, you should attach a trickle charger. Hope this helps.
@@manilaicecream625 Hello. We have never had an incident like that happen to any of our customers however, each kit is insured up to $1 million for property damage and $1 million for personal injury
Hi, since the Fuel Genie requires modification of the air intake system, will it be a problem in the state of CA since cars need to be tested for SMOG every other year and the techs will fail the vehicle for making non-factory modifications? Also, if the 12V battery on my 2014 Toyota Prius is in the trunk, how are you getting power to the reservoir? I watched the video showing installation on a 2010 Prius but no mention of how the power is connected and also where does the reservoir fit under the hood.
One of the reasons our kits do not void the mfgs warranty is we do not alter any OEM part of the vehicle. The enhanced air is piped into the intake manifold through an existing port for pcv or egr. A "T" adapter connects the reservoir to the vacuum of the intake. It takes about two minutes to remove the system.
@@garygoldstein327 Our Zero Free model has an internal heater controlled by a microprocessor. Together with insulation used by NASA (next door) the reservoir temp does not drop below 45 F even when temps are -40F. The heater may consume more power at those temps but at -5F power consumption per 24 hours is 1.2 amps.
what did you use to trick the computer? i only ask because i had a hho on a 99 dakota and in order to get better fuel economy you need something to turn the fuel mixture down and the air mixture up. did you use anything to change the air fuel mixture?
We use a device made by Volo performance. The VP 15. It adjusts O2 sensor signals so the computer doesn't negate the effects of hydrogen gas injection. You can see it at this link: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/products.html
a couple of questions the zip ties that hold the injector in place. won't that break over time? how does the gas get into the intake? im thinking about using on my charger 2011
The zip ties are pvc and have a 50lb test capacity. We have used these zip ties in our kits for 7 years now and never heard of one breaking. The hydrogen gasses are sucked into the intake manifold through the pcv port or any vacuum port on the intake manifold. These kits work well on Dodge vehicles.
I wanna know if this will work on high performance engines and if so will it affect the performance at all. I have a 2021 Challenger RT and would like to get more than 16 mpg lol
Jared. Mu second car was a 1969 Charger R/T 440 hemi, 4 on the floor. Hot cars. Our kits work on all ICEs. We have customers with Mercedes, BMW, Saab and two Corvette customers. All have gotten over 20% increase in mpg. It's all about the chemistry. We sweeten the intake air so the combustion is more powerful. Add to that it allows the engine to run in a lean configuration without over heating. Our Mercedes and BMW customers now use only 87 octane with no pre- or post detonation and an increase of 25% on the highway. Hope this helps. If you want a free quote on a kit for your car, click this link and I'll get one out to you: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/quotes-2.html
Interesting product. This presentation leaves me wondering: - how frequently does the reservoir need to be refilled? Can running the system on an empty reservoir damage the system? Other than visual inspection is there any other way to know the reservoir is empty? - would be nice as others point out to have 3rd party testimonials of typical mileage increase -what is the current draw on the battery? It does not seem to be wired to the ignition circuit, only to the battery. That suggests it does not shut down when you turn off the ignition. Can you inadvertently drain the battery ?
Refills needed every 5,000 miles for a 3 liter engine. Less for larger engines. When the system runs dry, there is an LED display that will drop to 0.00. Also, you can run dry. All you notice is mpg drops significantly. A sensitive voltage sensing switch is inside the control box. It closes when 13.5 volts of power is detected and opens when voltage drops below 13 volts. The only way more that 13.5 volts can be present at the battery termianls is when the engine is running and the alternator is out putting voltage to the battery. When the engine stops, voltage drops back to 12.6- 12.8 and the systems shuts down. It is a true HOD system. Safety first. Amp draw for a 3 liter engine is less than 300 mA. Hope this helps. To learn more visit our web site www.fuelgeniesystems.com . We also have video on our RUclips channel of customer testimonials. Also, video results showing engine telemetry real time on the highway.
I have a 2006 Yaris and 2015 Yaris. Do you have a video showing the installation on a Yaris? How does the OBDCII plug in device work? It gets a bit fuzzy when you describe that bit. 🙂
Thanks for the information and work. Is there a barrier in the system to keep any moisture from the intake? Just thought I’d ask since somebody might have the same inquiry.
There is no barrier. Moisture is always present in the intake since there is always moisture in the outside air. The generator produces gas only when the engine is running so there is negligible vapor in the connection hose. When it comes down to it there is water in gasoline and diesel thus we have HYDROcarbon fuels. Hope this helps
the problem with zip ties is in florida when the temp gets over 90 degrees it makes the ties weak over the long hot summers so something else would have 2 used to secure inside the engine compartment. u have any suggestions?
Our plant is in Clearwater, FL. We have used these zip ties on our test vehicle kit for 4 years now and the reservoir is still secure in it's location. Kit comes with 4 ties so you can use two to secure the reservoir without fear of them coming loose.
I have a 2011 Scion xB that gets 20-22 mpg no matter how I drive. Looks exactly like the camry under the hood if I could get 28 mpg+ after buying and installing this kit then I'd be happy
If I have a 4.0 liter engine. Does it matter which kit I get? I like the idea of the smaller kit since my wife has a 3.6 liter engine. So it might swap to her suv at some point.
Rick. We have one size reservoir. It works on all engines up to 7 liters. The only difference is the amount of current you add to the system with the wireless remote control and LED display. 0.13amps is a good setting for Prius and small engines, 0.30amps is a good setting for 3.6 liter engines. Amp setting differ from car to car due to engine status.
I have a 2008 mustang gt v8. Straight pipe with headers and I'm about to install high performance camshafts and I wax thinking what difference would be with the hydrogen kit? I have a sct programmer.
I am extremely interested in doing this with my mothers 2012 Altima and my 06 Silverado. I’ve seen where people are getting 56% increase. Your product looks very positive but your not claiming 56% increase. So is it possible to make your system more efficient without overheating?
I personally am skeptical of claims of more than 40% increases in mpg. 40% increase in mpg on the highway is the most we have ever seen with our systems. They don't overheat. Most efficient operating temp range is 45°- 125°. There is no system on the market today that more efficient than ours. We use only 0.3 amps of current to generate the amount of hydronium needed to increase mpg by 30% in a 3 liter engine. No device on the market today can do that. We also have a wireless remote control so you can adjust the amount of hydronium going to the engine while driving on the road. Now you can adjust for best mpg while driving. Thank you for the compliment on the design.
I have seen many claim 50% increases in mpg but we here have never seen that increase in mpg. The largest increase in mpg comes from a customer with a 6.5 diesel engine that gets almost 40% increase in mpg. We only claim what we know to be true for our kits.
@@stevehealer9377 Yes. We have a Zero Freeze kit for climes where temps drop below -18C. Our Zero Freeze model has an internal heater microprocessor controlled to keep the solution at 10C all winter long. The double layer insulation jackets hold temps in the reservoir so the heater cycles on and off thus using very little power. You can see this model kit at: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/products.html Click this link for a free quote on your car or truck: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/quotes-2.html
How does it work in winter conditions, the watter surely freezes. Also does it drain the battery, how much power does it use? And does it have negative impacts on exhaust sistem, does it rust?
Really good questions. Others will appreciate the answers. The electrolyte in the reservoir will keep the solution from freezing down to zero degrees. It gets slushy like melting snow and freezes like popsicle ice. For temps lower than zero we have a heat strip that keeps a channel inside the reservoir melted so the generating core can still produce the hydrogen gasses. There is only a drain on the battery if you have a freeze kit attached to the reservoir. The heater draws .4 amps- about the same power for the blue light on a radio dial. Other than that, there is never a drain on the battery. The system only operates when the engine is running and the alternator is charging the battery. You will need about .21 amps to .28 amps of current for a 3 liter engine to improve mpg by 30%. There is more water vapor present in the exhaust as there always is- gasoline is a (hydro)carbon fuel but nothing that will speed up normal rust if any. You will see some rust inside the tail pipe as opposed to black particulate matter that normally spews from the exhaust. It disappears once the engine is running. Hope this helps. Click this link for a free quote on a kit for your car or truck: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/quotes-2.html
UPDATE: After many tests we have found that the electrolytic solution using potassium or sodium is most conductive when kept at temperatures between 50°f and 125° F. By August, we will have a kit that keeps the solution in the reservoir over 50°F with a .4 amp immersion heater (same amount of energy as your blue radio dial). This information will account for many stories of hho not working. The closer to 32° F you get the less conductive the solution becomes. At freezing, all conductivity stops.
It is conceptualized by a Filipino Engineer Daniel Dingel, the first to run a car with water (hydrogen reactor). Now toyota produces its own car MIRAI 2021.
Dear Sir, is connecting to the PCV valve the only way of connecting? My Mazda CX 9's PCV location is very difficult to access. The other question is do you have to tune the ECU to fool the O2 sensors?
Thanks for asking. You can use any intake manifold port to inject the hho into. Usually there is one one on the engine side of the throttle plate assembly. You can use the EGR tube also. Do not use the brake vacuum line (which will work) unless you use hose clamps on the fittings. Hope this helps.
The ECU is never touched or changed in any way. The Sensor Adjustment Module is the device that adjusts signals from the O2 sensors so the ECU won't add fuel to the mixture when the O2 sensors send a lean signal by dropping voltage. This module is programmed to each vehicle by the driver. It can be reprogrammed over and over so you can move it from one vehicle to another without any cost. It plugs into your OBD port. When the O2 sensors drop voltage to the ECU the SAM adds necessary voltage and sends that signal to the ECU. Now you are driving in a lean configuration while the ECU thinks all is normal and makes no changes to fuel.
@@fuel-genie-systems1 Had the SAM been demonstrated, at the least - mentioned that the SAM automatically learns the voltage being signaled by the 02 sensors, whether they are before or behind that catalytic converter( s) whether there is one, two, or four O2 sensors, and how the SAM Adds the equivalent voltage to each O2 sensor pulse, in time with the O2 sensors, providing the correct combined voltage to tell the ECU the vehicle is running normally.
Any vacuum port to the intake manifold will work. Some of our customers use the hose connected to the brake cylinder. There is always vacuum there. Engines over 1.8 liters need a Sensor Adjustment Module. This module is programmed by you to your specific vehicle. It comes with a USB cable for your PC. Takes about 4 minutes to program. You can re-program it as many times as you need so you can switch the kit to another vehicle, re-program the SAM and it costs you nothing. The other end of the SAM has a cable that plugs into your OBD port under the dash. It's really simple.
@@fuel-genie-systems1 Dear Sir, can I connect the Tee to the ventilation hose? If I do, do I connect to the end closer to the engine or the other end closer to the air hose before throttle plate?
We did that a couple of years ago. Comments then were ..."yeah, you just added gas to the tank" so we got some electronics and documented the mileage increases real time for the unbelieving. Click this link to see more: ruclips.net/video/wTe-kPoXtx4/видео.html . You can see all our videos at Fuel Genie Systems here.
What I wanna see is an actual row of tests in laboratory conditions to eliminate the effects of air temperature, humidity, wind, and all of the dozen or so other variables which can cause fuel use fluctuations. I can get in my car right now and get 30mpg on the highway, do the same the next day at the same speed and get just 28mpg. What you need to prove that this works is take an engine and hook it up to measure brake specific fuel consumption while controlling ALL variables, then add a HHO generator with a monitored external power supply, account for every amp going in, and take a real good look at the data. Does the power actually increase because of the HHO? Does the power actually increase if you account for HHO conversion and alternator losses? If they can actually demonstrate these things in laboratory conditions and have independent peers replicate the experiments and check the original data, then I'll believe these claims, but otherwise, this is just make-believe and snake oil.
@@centralintelligenceagency9003 here is the absolute truth: if there was any mileage benefit to this snake oil, every automaker that is subject to U.S. EPA corporate average fuel economy (CAFE) requirements would embrace it immediately. There are significant fines attached to failure to meet CAFE. Before any says the automakers balk at licensing fees or royalties, this snake oil has been touted by hucksters and charlatans for decades and patent protection is likely expired or soon to be expired, if it were ever actually granted since the U.S. Patent Office does not grant patents for perpetual motion machines in any form.
@@walterk1221 wrong. They are in bed with the petroleum corporations.But there is already hydrogen water cell vehicles already on the market, research it.
@@whatsupdocchemdog5994 I am not at liberty to expand upon this but I worked with DARPA on hydrogen fuel cells so I am quite familiar and I dare say much more familiar than most.
Not driven but rather operated on a chassis dynamometer by a competent operator rather than a huckster driving uphill for the "before" and downhill for the amazing "after".
would a kit like this work on a obs ford f-150? i’m very interested in trying this out. i get around 12-13 miles per gallon and want to see how much better it could get
Hello Vinson. We have a kit that will increase mpg on the highway by a minimum of 20%. If you are getting 12-13 mpg, you will see 15-16. c If you want a free quote for the kit you need click this link: www.mileagemastersusa.com . Scroll to the bottom. Fill out the request form and send it in to us. I'll send you a free quote for your car or truck. If you accept, click the link to the order form. We'll send a secure invoice to you. Once the funds clear our bank we ship in two days. If you have any questions before you order please let me know. I'm happy to help in any way.
Is this system compatible with dual fuel engines? I have a gasoline engine car with LPG system installed (not from factory). Will the system you sell safely work with such combination?
Great question. I really cannot answer honestly. We had a fellow in the Netherlands buy a kit for his VW converted from gas to LPG. We never heard back from him. We know our kits work well on gasoline and diesel fuels. There is sulfur in those hydrocarbon fuels and no sulfur in LPG. Sulfur is important in the chemical reactions happening in the combustion chamber. Without it, your mpg will improve but only 15-20%. The engine running on gasoline however will see increases of 25-35% in mpg on the highway. You would be experimenting when using propane- we have no direct knowledge of the effects. It would be safe though in any case.
If you have proper knowledge in basic physics, you know the the first law of thermodynamics! Education is priceless! The "Fuel Genie System" is a useless piece of crap! :D
@@Cocoflava There is simply not enough HHO to do anything significant as this guy claims here. Maybe with a device 10 times bigger and modifications to the PCM. Basically this guy is full of it with his PROOF. HHO does work on ICE engines with mods but the amount needed is on the risk level of dangerous. I've fiddled with small engines that don't travel down the road with risk of collision. It worked for me after my 20th or so trial of tweaking things, I noticed a substantial increase in the torque, some economy improvement & a reduction of smoke coming out the muffler. I'm simply not inclined to put a larger system in a larger engine moving down the highway. For that camry engine, that device is laughably small.
there is no increase in the potential NRG of the system correct ... but an increase in efficiency. If the exhaust leaves at a lower enthalpy, would you not say there was an improvement in the process? If you harnessed that increase for a longer duration per rev of the crank? You are improving the extraction of the potential NRG of the system. The loss of conversion at the alternator and then again with the electrolysis, allows you to manipulate the combustion process, so that more of the available NRG is extracted. That is all ... so physics is not being broken. It is through a reduction of inherent loses and inefficiencies of the combustion engine that generates the improvement. Namely the reduction of timing allowing less torque loss on the upstroke of the compression stroke. Additionally the percent of the combustion stroke is increased ... longer time using the same power per revolution. Additionally the enthalpy of the exhaust is lower meaning more NRG was extracted from the process. While I agree that this guys product is absolutely laughable for the stated use (and he is full of crap hawking the improvement in MPG he claims), HHO has been proven to improve ICE efficiency, and to a lesser degree CIE.
EJ. Education is priceless. You need some more before you make statements showing your lack of the latest science. How is it possible for a human brain to actually see videos of how well something works and call it bunk? You never needed a lot of hydrogen gasses to increase mpg. Most amateur tinkerers never did the research necessary to establish the correct ratio of hydrogen gasses to fresh air for optimal increases in mpg. Too much hydrogen and power will decrease. When you lean the mixture too much with hydrogen gasses, you need to press further on the accelerator to maintain speed thus you use more gas with too much hydrogen. We have done the research and we know. Our customers know. Seems only you are missing out on this emerging technology. Visit our web site fuelgeniesystems.com and you can see many videos of customers who are absolutely stunned with how well the system works. How can over 400 people (not all on video) be wrong about out product who actually HAVE the system on their vehicles and you be right with your speculations? I make to you the same promise we have on our web site: If you don't see an increase of at least 20% in mpg on the highway, send the kit back and we'll refund your money including postage. It costs you nothing if what you say is correct. Watch all the videos on our RUclips page. These people are not lying.
@@fuel-genie-systems1 I don't expect that you agree ... But first, there is the first law of thermodynamics! It mean in simple words, the amount of energy in a closed system is equal. If you suck more from the alternator to run a HHO generator, you need more fuel. And secound, try some simple math: How many Air suck in your engine at 2000 rpm? A 2 liter (4stroke) engine need 1000 liter air at 2000 rpm! How many liter HHO comes from your HHO generator in one minute? I guess (optimistic) 0,1 liter. So you add the amount of one water glas of HHO to 1000 liter Air. I will call it Fuel-Homeopathy! :D It only work for believer. Finaly, you talk about the "latest science". There is nothing new on your "snake oil" tecnology! NOTHING!
Even if it didn't increase the fuel mileage, the HHO should make the engine run cooler and cleaner, extending the life of the engine and helping the environment. I have no doubt it improves mileage, though. I've seen many reports.
The unit is small enough to probably not make a notable difference; however, typical HHO generator "size " suggestion is 1LPM per liter of engine displacement. For Example, a 1996 Thunderbird is equipped with a 4.6 liter engine. the Installed generator for that size engine would be a recommended 5 liter per minute generator. Thant pool filter used in the example is not going to generate 5 liters of hydrogen off of a 5 amp draw off of the car's 12v battery.. you would need to come off the alternator generating upwards between 30 and 50 amps. fracking hydrogen from water at that amp draw generates a great deal of heat. and strapping a hot foaming angry can of hydrogen next to your battery is not the coolest location to install it. Hydrogen is very volatile, and one missing implement most others in the HHO community recommend is a flash back arrest or, or a bubbler between generator and intake,. Should there be any leak and random spark, the ensuing fire would stop at that arresting device, allowing for the safety of your vehicle , the equipment, and time to go ahead and hose clamp every hydrogen connection.
@@williamedwards6519 Science has evolved since you learned about hho. We have over 400 kits sold to customers around the world. We have a distributor in Canada and two in negotiations overseas. Out kits are tried and proven to work. First of all, you only need small amounts of hydrogen enhanced air to increase mpg noticibly. We use titanium micro mesh electrodes infused with 2 rare earth elements to generate H3O (hydronium-look it up, it's the real hho) These rare earth elements generate 9 times their weight in hydrogen and oxygen at the respective poles. We pass the hydronium over and ionized filter making it into an ionized plasma gas. This gas breaks the long hydrocarbon molecules into smaller molecules that burn faster and more completely. Thus- more power. All this is true for what is called a WET system. In a DRY system, H2 and O2 are mostly the resultant gasses. They will indeed lean the mixture so the engine becomes more efficient but they do not produce very much hydronium. This is why our customers see increases of 25% -40% in mpg on the highway. We create hydronium. Works nine times better with less amperage. We only use .3 amps to increase mpg on a 3 liter gas engine 30% on the highway. Hope this update on the science helps.
@@williamedwards6519 WOW. Just now reading your comment. It was way down the comment list but needs addressing. We create a gas called hydronium. It's not hho- a misnomer for a gas that no one knew what to call it back in the early 1900s. We use titanium electrodes infused with rare earth metals that generate 9 times their weight in H2 at the cathode and 9 times their weight in O2 at the anode. This allows us to generate a more concentrated gas a much lower amps. Typical amps for a 3 liter engine gaining 30% increase in mpg at 75mph is 0.30. We have documented this so many times with many videos on our web site www.fuelgeniesystems.com. You do not- I repeat do not need a lot of hydrogen to improve mpg. Older stainless steel systems need huge amperage to generate whet we do with less that one amp. There is also the chemical aspect of the mpg improvement that most here never address. Saltpeter- potassium nitrate + charcoal + sulfur = gunpowder. Look it up. Sodium nitrate is a weaker form of saltpeter. The hydronium we make in the reservoir is passed through an ionized filter turning the hydronium into an ionized gas- plasma if you will. This plasma acts as an acid when it comes into contact with hydrocarbon compounds. It breaks the long molecular chains of hydrocarbon fuels into smaller molecules of sulfur and carbon (charcoal) and some harmless salts. Now not only do we get the benefit of increased torque from the lean configuration of the engine but we also get a small boost for the gaseous elements of gunpowder created in the combustion chamber. All who have worked with hho in the past know that too much hydrogen to the engine reduces mpg. This is because it leans the mixture so much you have to press harder on the accelerator to keep the same speed ergo: loss of mpg. Another point is that you need more hydrogen gasses going to the engine as rpms increase. We now have a remote controlled system that you can adjust with a wireless remote fob for best increase in mpg while driving on the highway. A giant step forward in this technology. Hope this helps you understand more about the science of how these systems work.
Shane. She (neighbor) was getting around 30 mpg on the highway at that speed. She's a neighbor. The kit is over 2 years old and still works like new. She is very happy
You can but you won't get the best increase in mpg. We don't guarantee a 20% increase unless you attach the output hose of the reservoir to the intake manifold someway.
Great question. When the O2 sensors determine the mixture is lean (less fuel/ more air) it drops voltage to the ECU (PCM). The ECU then tells the injectors to stay open longer to return to the program AFR settings. If your engine is over 1.8 liters you will need a Sensor Adjustment Module to keep the ECU from making corrections for a lean mixture. The SAM is programmed with the same 3d map as your ECU. It knows what voltage the O2 sensors should be putting out at any rpm. It samples the O2 sensor signals 20,000/min. When O2 sensors detect a lean mixture they drop voltage to the ECU but now, the SAM sees that voltage drop and adds the necessary voltage then sends that signal to the ECU. The ECU sees the expected voltage from the O2 sensors but in reality you are driving with a lean mixture. Hope this helps.
Good question. The simple answer is the engine reduces fuel to the engine when you less pressure on the accelerator. These kits allow the engine to run "Lean"- more air-less fuel. This improves engine efficiency and as a result you don't have to press as far on the accelerator to maintain the same speed as before.
I put a HHO system on my "97 Jeep with a 4.0L years ago. When the Jeep's computer detected more O2 from the split water molecule (2 parts oxygen, 1 part hydrogen) it would think the mixture was lean and put more fuel in. And then the MPG would go back to where is was before or worst. How do you compensate for for O2 so the computer doesn't enriched the fuel mixture?
That was then. This is now. We now have Sensor Adjustment modules that plug into the OBD port. They are "Smart Modules" and compensate not only for addition of hho (hydronium) but also learn your driving habits intown and on the highway. Click this link to see them: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/products.html
@@andrewmoen105 I had a rudimentary a HHO system on my "97 Jeep years ago and I fiddled with. That Jeep normal would get 15-18 mpg on the highway doing about 60 mph with cruise on. With the A/C on in the summer you could cut 1-3 mpg off that. With my rudimentary HHO system I got as high as 26 MPG @ 70 mph with the A/C on. These systems do work & the science behind them is solid. When these HHO systems are turned on they split the water molecule producing 2 oxygen molecules (O2) & 1 hydrogen molecule (H). My O2 sensors would detect more O2 thinking the engine was running lean. Over the next 3-4 tanks of fuel the Jeep's computer would enrichen the fuel mixture & the MPG would go back to what it started at. I did not know how to tell my O2 sensors that the additional O2 was ok. Sounds like these guys got it figured out. Would I call these systems “pretty scammy” ?? Nope. I would figure that when installed & operated as designed the MPG results will be impressive!
We have a model made especially for temps below 20° C. Our Zero Freeze model has an immersion heater inside the reservoir. It has a thermal controller powered by a microprocessor so it uses less than .4 amps over a 24 hour period when temps are below 20C. IT maintains 9°C all year round. When outside temps are above 9C it turns off.
So, you're using fuel to make electricity, and then you use that electricity to make fuel. And somehow that half a gram of hydrogen blows up the mpg...nah.
Jaaaa.... we use .3 amps of 12 dc current to move 4,000 lbs. down a highway at 60 mpg for 28 miles. That is the difference in mileage on a 3 liter engine using 4.25 gallons of gas. Without out system, we used 4.25 gallon to travel 60 miles at 60 mph. We the travelled the same stretch of highway and got 88 miles on the same 4.25 gallons. Moving that much metal at that speed on only .3 amps is stellar in any sense of the word. Click this link: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/quotes-2.html I'll send you a free quote. If you don't get at least a 20% increase in mpg on the highway we'll but the kit back from you including postage. How's that for trust in our product?
You have to understand the difference between hydrogen as a fuel and gasoline as a fuel. This is called the heating value of the fuel. The heating value of hydrogen is approximately 400% greater than that of gasoline. This is the BTU per pound mass of the fuel. Gasoline is approximately 22000 BTU/lbm. Hydrogen is about 80000 BTU/lbm.
@@arne6787 I don't see how this somehow defeats the second law of thermodynamics. Unfortunately the energy of a closed system can't get increase without external input. If you put 10 watts of power to make hydrogen, you will get less than 10 watts out of the result. Always. And forever.
@@jintarokensei3308 It's wasted breath. They simply do not understand that we're showing how to make hydrogen cheaply. Then we're showing how adding hydrogen to your intake will improve mileage. It's that simple so a little education into how it works should be read by all those who say it doesn't work. Click this link and see how and why it works. Proven automotive mechanics:www.fuelgeniesystems.com/how-it-works-1.html.
I was still looking for that increase. The fuel mileage sensor jumped around so much in that couple of seconds. I'd have liked about 2-3 minutes of constant servailense to really see if it was working. Also how often do you have to refill that.
Sounds like an electronic component is not working correctly. Contact me at info@fuelgeniesystems.com. We'll fix that. Refil every 5,000 miles for 3 liter engine.
Cllick this link and we'll send you information about becoming a distributor: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/become-a-distributor.html. Have to say though, in-town mpg is impossible to measure accurately. We measure increases in mpg on the highway at 65 mph. Cars are more responsive in the city and toxic emissions are reduced to almost zero but how much it will save on gas in the city no one can say. If you're still interested click the link about above and we'll start the process. It costs nothing to become a distributor.
A better Principle is to Connect One of the Wires to the " Alternator " Then you Have a True [ Passive ] Online Demand System . And Yes you should have an on/off Switch w/ a Circuit Breaker [ instead of an inline Fuse ] System !
We actually do just that. In the wireless remote processor box the is a voltage sensor that closes the circuit when the alternator is sending a charge to the battery. GMTA
Great questions. The water in the reservoir will last for 5,000 miles on a 3 liter engine. Less with larger engines, more with smaller engines. 6 liter engines about 3,500 miles between fill-ups. Titanium plates mean no rust so there's absolutely no maintenance needed. Just add water solution and drive. It's really quite remarkable.
Bracket mounting makes no difference in the effectiveness of these kits. We guarantee a minimum 20% increase or a full refund of your invoice. Our customers are getting 25%-35% increases in mpg on the highway .
Yes it will. If you check out the rest of the videos on the Fuel Genie Systems site here, you will see a retired Rolls Royce engineer with a system mounted on his Mercedes and an explanation.
Chad, yes. The enhanced gasses (hydronium) is produced in the reservoir and then sucked into the intake manifold through the 3/8" hose. People are just now beginning to realize the power of just a small amount of hydrogen.
I did a lot of research about these about 5yrs ago but honestly probably forgot some details, but arent you supposed to have some sort of computer bypass/modded o2 sensor or something that makes it so the ecu doesnt correct itself? The o2 sensor/ecu will detect more air and pump more fuel to even out the mixture. So youre supposed to tell the ecu to left off of that extra fuel bc the hho is making up for it. And from there, you can keep tuning to maximize mileage. A lot of ppl didnt do this, and thats why a lot of ppl said it doesnt work, but everyone that made it work made sure to do this.
Correct you are. We call them Sensor Adjustment Modules or SAMs for short. They are programmed by the customer to their make, model and year of vehicle. They then know what values the ECU is looking for at certain rpms. So when O2 sensors drop voltage to the ECU- signalling a lean mixture, the ECU keeps injectors open longer to richen the mixture back to default values. With the SAM plugged into the OBD port, it samples 20,000/min the O2 signal out put. When the O2 sensors drop voltage now, the SAM adds the necessary voltage and sends that signal to the ECU. Now the ECU thinks all is well but in actuality, the engine is running lean. Since high pressure steam is a decent refrigerant gas, the combustion temp cools as the piston expands the volume on it's way down the cylinder. Hope this helps.
Why? Do you want the extra miles per gallon from your wallet being double-lightened? This crap has been completely discredited both analytically and empirically.
hello am good to see this technology. my question is, fuel in West Africa is expensive and am very sure many will jump to this but is worth it for a 1ltr to 1.5ltr as most of these cars are used for commercial purposes here?
If the cars are used at speeds over 50 mph you will see a 25%-35% increase in mpg. In town only a 12% to 18%. If you drive mostly in town it's not worth it except it reduces toxic exhaust emissions to almost zero.
No. You only need two if the engine is larger than 7.5 liters. Click this link to see our newest model. It's adjustable with wireless remote. Lets you adjust for best mpg while driving on the highway. You only need a small amount of hydrogen to boost mpg significantly.
If you'd like a free quote click this link: Click this link and we'll send you a free quote for your car or truck: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/fbquote.html
I've seen other videos that were like, "By default, HHO generators do NOTHING for modern day cars when it comes to MPG" I can't remember the details. But, I just saw a comment on another video that says you have to "lean out the engine" to get any better gas mileage with an HHO generator. Just connecting a generator ain't gonna do squat except maybe keep your engine cleaner. That comment: "captainwho1 1 month ago (edited) When I was studying this sort of rabidly (lol) several years ago , the last time gasoline got around $4 per gallon I definitely determined that for HHO to produce a fuel economy benefit it is absolutely mandatory to set the engine leaner. I read a scientific paper or two or three(?) on this and the hydrogen boosting has the ability to speed up the flamefront in the engine cylinder allowing a leaner burn and also you can adjust the ignition timing so that there is peak brake mean effective pressure at a more opportune time relative to the position of the crankshaft. Like everything the devil's in the details. Going leaner on the carburetor is mandatory. PS - I hope you aren't sick of the accolades but I think your efforts are absolutely amazing! " ---The video it's from where someone tested an HHO generator with a generator. ruclips.net/video/dOiXpCpVofQ/видео.html So, yes, you CAN Get better MPG but you're gonna have to have a mechanic do some engine and probably computer tweaks.
The technology has matured. You do not need to do anything other than install the kit on carburated engines to get better mpg. On fuel injected engines, you must use some sort of EFIE to adjust O2 sensor signals to the ECU or you will get no increase in mpg. The fact of just adding hydrogen and oxygen gasses to your engine leans the mixture. As you say. lesn= less gas: more air.
Yes. These kits do indeed work. We have been in business for 12 years now. If we were scamming people we would be out of business. Over 300 customers have purchased a kit in the past 10 months and no one has asked to return them. We have installers here in the US who make decent money on the side installing these kits and distributors in Canada and Fiji. I'd say this is a fair endorsement on the performance of these kits. They work on all reciprocating gasoline and diesel engines. We have no tests confirming but a fellow in Holland bought a kit last year and says his VW that was converted to propane gets better mileage with this kit. Again, no confirmation just a satisfied customer. If you'd like a free quote on a kit for your car click this link and I'll get one out to you: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/quotes-2.html
Hho is work for carburator engine.. That's why there is no more carburator type engine..all are computerized and automatic mixture of gasoline,0² etc..
How long does the sodium hydroxide last per gallon? How much does sodium hydroxide cost? What was your car getting for MPG stock? So your car got an extra 5 miles per gallon?
A 3 liter engine will use i gal of solution every 14,000 miles approximately. You can buy it sodium hydroxide in any ACE hardware store. It's in the plumbing section in a white plastic bottle called Roto Rooter 100% PURE LYE. Costs about $5.00/ bottle and lasts about two years. The Camry gained about 30% more miles per gallon.
I’m very intrigued!.. I guess I have two questions. Longevity wise: running lean won’t hurt the engine at all long term? And then next question: I know this is to gain gas mileage, but have you guys done any tests to see whether adding the hyrodgen enriched air increases Horsepower at all?
Hydrogen enhanced air leans the mixture. Normally this makes the engine run hot. Adding hydrogen to the air intake creates superheated steam in the combustion chamber. As the pistom moves down the cylinder the volume expands and the steam as a refrigerant gas cools the combustion temp down to below 300F. Our kits allow you run lean without over heating. Since the flash is happening after TDC with a lean mixture, it improves torque on the crankshaft. There is a bit of power added but it's the lean mixture that yields gas savings.
We have kits for both your vehicles. Second kit comes with a discount. Click this link for a free quote: www.mileagemastersusa.com . At the top click request free quote.
... i dont quite get how it uses less fuel... don't fuel injectors still inject fuel into combustion chambers at regular intervals and the standard capacity as they used to before the hydrogen implementation?
Leo. Click this link to the explanation on our web site: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/how-it-works-1.html. Basically, adding hydrogen to your engine allows it to run in a lean configuration without over heating. When you run lean, mpg increases and performance increases. High pressure water vapor in the comboustion chamber keeps the temp below 300°F as it exits the exhaust manifold. Hope this helps. If you have other questions just ask.
Everything remains the same except the improved combustion will make you press less on the accelerator to keep the same speed as before. Ergo: you use less gas going the same speed.
How to maintain the life span of battery and protect the anode body of car for long use? Addition of solar panels with another sacrificial battery would be good
Yes. We have a kit that will increase mpg 25% or more on the highway. Click this link: www.mileagemastersusa.com/free-quote-form . Fill out the form and send it back. I'll send you a free quote complete with shipping.
This process does not produce much heat at all since power consumption is below 500 mA. SAN reservoirs will withstand 165 F however we have never seen temps under the hood in FL sun go above 135.
Key words: "Something like this. " Watch our videos. Seeing is believing. Nobody has ever used rare earth metals on electrodes before. We are the only ones. We make hydronium and ionize it into a plasma. That we feed into the intake manifold. Works great. Have you seen ANY negative reviews on our products. We know how to meter the gas. If you don't meter it correctly, you don't get any increase in mpg.
@@fuel-genie-systems1 while yes in theory hydrogen can increase mpg, this product can not as this product does not actually separate hydrogen from water, this product only appears to work because the bubbles are air from the engine.
We ship to all European countries. We ship to 38 countries around the world. For a free quote on the cost of a kit for your vehicle, click this link:www.fuelgeniesystems.com/quotes-2.html. Send the form to us and we'll quote you a price.
We have an electronic module that plugs into the OBD port that aleviates that problem. It adjust O2 sensor signals to the ECU to the expected voltages at any certain rpm.
That is a computer module. It samples the O2 sensor signals 20,000/min. It adjusts the signals so the car's computer will not make adjustments to richen the mixture when they read it as lean. @@MegaRyan123456
@@fuel-genie-systems1 It's not "misleading" information mate You can upload a map through the obd port and change settings on the ECM of some cars However there is no OBD2 funcion that allows live changes to the fuel map 🤣 You can really only flash the ECM of most cars though the port I have had cars before were you can live tune but the ECM is flashed with very specific software Your full of s@#t
do i have to service my car more frequently, after all, hydrogen burns and releases water vapour, if that water vapour cools, it turns in to water, what happens to my engine oil if the water eventually makes it down the cylinder and mixes with the engine oil, wont the water vapour cause problems when the engine cools down? also, do i need to set timing for a later ignition as hydrogen burns more rapidly than normal feul?
Water vapor never reaches your crankcase oil. Rings prevent that. Residual moisture in the unfired cylinders is burned off on the first firing of the spark plug in those cylinders. The super heated steam created in the combustion chamber cleans the piston, valve seats, injectors and spark plugs, it cools the combustion temp to below 300° at the exhaust manifold from expansion. Hope this helps.
Currently the oldest working system we have is on our test vehicle. It is just shy of 5 years now since we installed it. Still going strong. The titanium plates will last for years. The plastic pieces and electronics are guaranteed for one year. If they work that long they will last for years. We replace free any parts under warranty. These devices will not lose efficiency over time as we have observed. If they do, you can still adjust the amperage up to compensate with the wireless remote control
I can only speak from experience. We have the first prototype of the current kit on our lab rat (Ford 3 liter gas engine) working now over 4.5 years. There is no deterioration of the rare earth titanium plates and mpg is better than it was initially 4 years ago.
The gas is injected into a port on the intake manifold just behind the throttle body. There the gas injected is mixed more evenly with the fresh intake air.
The system only turns on when the alternator sends a charge to the battery. The system itself draws between 0.15 amps and 0.75 amps depending on engine size. It's the current from the alternator that activates and deactivates the system.
Really happy you asked that. Click this link to another RUclips video showing how these kits clean up toxic exhausts: ruclips.net/video/uUq6cks7qAU/видео.html . We don't advertise this yet but they also improve exhaust acidity from an average of pH4.2 to pH 6.3. Since pH is a log rhythm this means these devices reduce acidity in the air 2,000 times. Important to keeping acid rain at a minimum in cities and runoff into rivers, lakes and streams.
The engine always burns gasoline. This hydrogen gas is added to the intake air and makes the air in the engine more combustible. If the reservoir happens to run dry, nothing happens except you will see your mpg drop. These kits last 5,000 miles between refills so when you change your oil, fill the reservoir up to the fill mark and that's all you need to do.
The control box connected to the battery has a voltage sensor inside. It closes when the alternator sends a charging voltage to the battery of 13.5 volts or more. There is a 3 second lag for the alternator voltage to output voltage once the engine starts.
Is there a way to make this viable in the winter? I live in the Midwest so I imagine when it gets cold you can't run this because the water will freeze.
You would need our Zero Freeze model. It has an internal heater thermally controlled by a micro-processor. It maintains reservoir temps above 45 F. When temps are above 50F it shuts the heater off. Because of the double layer insulation the heater cycles on and off when temps are below zero which draws very little amperage from the battery.
@@fuel-genie-systems1 Is there a lowest temperature allowable for this system? Also if it stays cold for an extended period would this kill my car battery?
@@gomerkyle7425 We have only tested this temp controlled kit down to -5° F. At that temp, we saw a loss of 1.2 amps on the battery in 24 hours. We connected that battery to an F150 and it started right up. If you expect not to start the engine for longer than 30 hours, we recommend attaching a trickle charger to the battery. For temps lower than -5° we have no data but I am sure the drain on the battery would be more.
Wish I could post a picture here. Click this link and I'll send you a complete free quote: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/quotes-2.html . I can also send you a picture of an installaton in a Crown Vic.
@Fuel Genie Systems my friends want me to test it first, but it blew their minds. I'll get information over to you. Thank you again for everything you've done for our planet and our wallets!
Yes. Toyota ECU programming allows our kits to gain the most mpg increases. More than Ford, GMC or Honda. Click this link for a free quote: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/quotes-2.html.
Hello can this be purchased for a 1.2 petrol Hyundai ? I see on website most of the ones sold are for 1.5 litres and above... thank you for your time:)
Sorry I didn't see your question. We will have a new MINI Genie coming out next week. It still has to be photographed and instructions have to be finished. Click this link and I'll send you a free quote: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/quotes-2.html . You'll be in our system and when they do come our with prices, you can be ahead of the others who want one.
Very much so. These kits work on all ICEs, diesel or gasoline, makes no difference. It will work on your F150. We guarantee a 20% increase in mpg or we buy the system back from you including postage.
Couple of questions. For any HHO installation, does the car need to be re tuned from company specifications? Also is this legal for road? Will it void warranty? And if this really works then why don't automobile companies install it in the first place? Are there negative sides for using it?
No tuning necessary. Just connect the output hose to a manifold intake port. Totally legal for the road depending on state laws. Will not void warranty (See www.fuelgeniesystems.com/products.html.). they don't teach this in school yet. Engineers are given gas and diesel to power engines.
@@fuel-genie-systems1 You're wrong, tuning needs to be done. When HHO is supplied to the engine, the CO2 is almost zero, after which the O2 sensor, which is located in the exhaust system of any car, notifies the ECM (Electronic Control Module), after which the ECM increases the fuel supply to the injectors. To prevent this from happening, you need to adjust the operation of the ECM for HHO using Volo-FS2 chip, which connects via OBD II port plug in.
Yes it will. It allows your engine to run lean without over heating. Lean = more air- less fuel. If you don't get a minimum of 20% increase in mpg on the highway, we will refund your invoice 100%. No one offers that on performance.
Great question. I hear that a lot. Sodium hydroxide (NaOH) becomes ionized when dissolved in water. This ionized solution reacts strongly with aluminum. However, once the solution is hydrolyzed two sodium atoms attach to an oxygen atom to form N2O which is a compound used in pottery. It is a harmless salt that strengthens clay in a kiln. This is the chemistry of a dry cell hho generator. Our systems are wet cells and produce a form of hydrogen gas called hydronium (H3O). The sodium in the solution is still harmful to aluminum but only in liquid form. Sodium is important in the chemistry of our kits. Potassium nitrate (saltpeter) is a component of gunpowder. Add sulfur and charcoal to potassium nitrate and you have gunpowder. Sodium acts the same way as potassium but with less strength ergo, sodium nitrate + sulfur+ charcoal is a weaker form of gunpowder. We pass the hydronium gas over a charged filter to ionize the gas into a plasma. As an ionized gas, it breaks down hydrocarbon molecules into sulfur, carbon and harmless salts. Now all the components of a weak gunpowder are present in the combustion chamber. In addition to the H2 and O2 leaning the mixture to improve torque, we add a small explosion to the combustion. This produces more power and fuel burns more completely. This reduces emissions as well as increases mpg. So, will sodium destroy your engine? Only if you pour the solution into the intake manifold. Hope this answers your question. Thanks for asking.
Indeed we do. We ship about 1 kit per month to AUS. We have one person in Victoria who wants to be a distributor and one in Brisbane also. Click this link for a free quote: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/quotes-2.html . Add about $80-$100 US for shipping depending on where you are.
Hydrogen gasses are sucked into the intake manifold through the port connected to the pcv valve. If your engine is over 1.8 liters, you will need a Sensor Adjustment module to adjust O2 sensor signals to the ECU for optimal increases in mpg on the highway.
@@fuel-genie-systems1 okay interesting, now I’ve seen that you’ve done tests yourself. But it’s become quite common word that this practice was a myth. However I am also familiar with a process where to essentially carbonate your fuel but with hydrogen instead. And that was proven to have little to no effect. But is it possible that people are getting the process mixed up? How exactly does the car know to cut back fuel is it’s based on air intake?
@@spray_cheese Simple. You get more power from each stroke of the pistons so you don't have to press as far on the accelerator to maintain the same speed as without our system.
@@fuel-genie-systems1 okay that makes sense. Would that change the fuel ratio depending on if your throttle body is open or not? As in when the throttle body is closed there will be a higher hydrogen ratio? And would that effect RPM? Or is that just the power of the stroke that would increase? I should also take a look at your other videos. I have only seen this one by you. Appreciate your help with my questions! This is a very interesting concept and I hope to take advantage of every bit I can!
Add some hose clamps to the T that was installed and any other hose connection points as well as tie the electric into the Fuse box if it's going to be a permanent fixture in the vehicle. A continuous parasitic draw like that can have long-term damage to not only the battery but the alternator as well. I had a trailer hitch installed on a 2010 Scion xB I had owned since it was brand new, and the electric was tied directly onto the battery. At about 60k miles the battery and alternator needed to be replaced, then both again at around 100k miles. I had the wiring for the trailer hitch inspected, it looked ok, but had it reworked so it went to the fuse box and I never had an issue after that. I had that car for about 280k miles without any other issues. So if you're going to leave anything permanently installed that draws power, route it through the fuse box and save yourself the headache later on.
You are so right. We searched months for a way to activate the reservoir ONLY when the engine was running. Using a voltage sensing switch like we do in our other kits does not work since there is constant 14 volts on the system.
After many tests, we now have a switch that activates the reservoir generator ONLY when the engine is running. We have developed a mass air flow switch that is placed in the air filter box across the hose where fresh air enters the filter box before the filter. It is connected directly to the battery terminal in the fuse box. There is no drain on the battery when the engine is not running. The switch is open when there is no fresh air coming into the engine intake. As soon as the engine starts, it sucks air through the filter box and across the air flow switch as well. Within 4 seconds, the switch closes and the system is activated. We have tested this over 18 road hours. It works.
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@@JoseRodriguez-fp1lr let us know what happens. We're here to expose the people profitting off good people trying to make a living...If it doesn't hold up, tell us. Tell everyone.
@@JoseRodriguez-fp1lr please don't waste your time and money.
You can make them run 100% on water.
PCV is positive crankcase ventilation and is not a vacuum line, it allows the engine to breath.
Exactly, this product is a smoke and mirrors scam. It uses the air from the pcv hose to generate the bubbles. I doubt that there is any actual circuitry in the entire kit.
Its very famous in indonesia, malaysia and Pakistan/ India
Wow that was fast and simple.
I'd like to see some 3rd part reviews on this. I looked into it about 10 years ago and it's peaking my intrest again with fuel prices.
Save the money, get a better car.
Gasoline is not combustible without an oxidizer AKA oxygen that's why the engine has a compression stroke to atomize and mix the fuel with the oxygen then the fuel hit the flashpoint detonates this process continues as the Piston moves all the way down. The problem with hydrogen it does not need an oxidizer it does not need compression it will detonate immediately it prematurely detonating and so the motor will end up shutting off if it's not mixed properly but keep in mind this process will always happen destroying the exhaust valve NASA did studies on internal combustion engines running on hydrogen alone the main problem early detonation on compression stroke and burning up the exhaust valves also motor shutting off on exhaust stroke because there was no momentum it didn't have the downward Force the gasoline provided. The most important thing you have to worry about is the hydrogen turning back into water mixing with oxygen in the combustion chamber and really messing stuff up
@@gamble254 hmm, you talk like you know everything (i dont) but why do so many use this without problems? For the problems you are talking about there are simple sulutions on. You do this right it maight save you around 30% fuel on the mile
@@berntsrensen1217 not exactly thermal efficiency comes into play and amp draw from the alternator as well wich equals more force/gas needed and the hydrogen generators dont create enough gas to run the engine and if it did there would be more serious problems like predetonation wich will burn up your exhuasts valves as well so all in all there is about 70 percent efficiency through the process so if anything you may lose mileage but gain a cleaner burn at idle
Same! Trying to get in the 20's in my F-150
I’m not sure if anyone asked this already but what do you do with this in the winter? I noticed a “freeze kit” but does that stay on constantly keeping the water from freezing while the vehicle isn’t running? I live on the NY/PA border and it can get down to -5F or a little colder will that split the plastic housing? If I added a extra electrolyte would that lower the freezing temperature and help with the water freezing without effecting the reaction process? Thanks in advance
Our Zero Freeze kit is your solution. It has an internal heater controlled by a micro processor that keeps the reservoir temp above 45 F all year round even when temps are -5F and below. The reservoir is covered with a double insulated mylar foam jacket that holds temperature well. When the sensor inside the reservoir senses 44 F it cycles the heater on for a minute or two until the solution temp reaches 50F. There the heater shuts off. It cycles on and off with more time being spent in the off status. Hence there is very little drain on the battery. About 1.2 amps over a 24 hour period when the outside temp is zero and below. The colder it is the faster the heater cycles off and on needing more current. We advise if you are not going to start the vehicle within a 48 hour period, you should attach a trickle charger.
Hope this helps.
And where does that heater Get electricity from? You Will end up draining your BATTERY and car wont start
@@fuel-genie-systems1what happens if this blows my engine? Y’all pay for a new engine?
@@manilaicecream625 Hello. We have never had an incident like that happen to any of our customers however, each kit is insured up to $1 million for property damage and $1 million for personal injury
Hi, since the Fuel Genie requires modification of the air intake system, will it be a problem in the state of CA since cars need to be tested for SMOG every other year and the techs will fail the vehicle for making non-factory modifications? Also, if the 12V battery on my 2014 Toyota Prius is in the trunk, how are you getting power to the reservoir? I watched the video showing installation on a 2010 Prius but no mention of how the power is connected and also where does the reservoir fit under the hood.
One of the reasons our kits do not void the mfgs warranty is we do not alter any OEM part of the vehicle. The enhanced air is piped into the intake manifold through an existing port for pcv or egr. A "T" adapter connects the reservoir to the vacuum of the intake. It takes about two minutes to remove the system.
In winter when it' minus 40° does the water in the fuel genie freeze?
@@garygoldstein327 Our Zero Free model has an internal heater controlled by a microprocessor. Together with insulation used by NASA (next door) the reservoir temp does not drop below 45 F even when temps are -40F. The heater may consume more power at those temps but at -5F power consumption per 24 hours is 1.2 amps.
what did you use to trick the computer? i only ask because i had a hho on a 99 dakota and in order to get better fuel economy you need something to turn the fuel mixture down and the air mixture up. did you use anything to change the air fuel mixture?
We use a device made by Volo performance. The VP 15. It adjusts O2 sensor signals so the computer doesn't negate the effects of hydrogen gas injection. You can see it at this link: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/products.html
Hydrogen automotive conversion
a couple of questions the zip ties that hold the injector in place. won't that break over time? how does the gas get into the intake? im thinking about using on my charger 2011
The zip ties are pvc and have a 50lb test capacity. We have used these zip ties in our kits for 7 years now and never heard of one breaking.
The hydrogen gasses are sucked into the intake manifold through the pcv port or any vacuum port on the intake manifold. These kits work well on Dodge vehicles.
I wanna know if this will work on high performance engines and if so will it affect the performance at all. I have a 2021 Challenger RT and would like to get more than 16 mpg lol
Jared. Mu second car was a 1969 Charger R/T 440 hemi, 4 on the floor. Hot cars. Our kits work on all ICEs. We have customers with Mercedes, BMW, Saab and two Corvette customers. All have gotten over 20% increase in mpg. It's all about the chemistry. We sweeten the intake air so the combustion is more powerful. Add to that it allows the engine to run in a lean configuration without over heating. Our Mercedes and BMW customers now use only 87 octane with no pre- or post detonation and an increase of 25% on the highway. Hope this helps. If you want a free quote on a kit for your car, click this link and I'll get one out to you: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/quotes-2.html
Will this work on a bmw z4 35is?
@scottykilmer is the only one I trust. If he does a review on it and says it works then I'd totally buy one
Interesting product. This presentation leaves me wondering:
- how frequently does the reservoir need to be refilled? Can running the system on an empty reservoir damage the system? Other than visual inspection is there any other way to know the reservoir is empty?
- would be nice as others point out to have 3rd party testimonials of typical mileage increase
-what is the current draw on the battery? It does not seem to be wired to the ignition circuit, only to the battery. That suggests it does not shut down when you turn off the ignition. Can you inadvertently drain the battery ?
Refills needed every 5,000 miles for a 3 liter engine. Less for larger engines. When the system runs dry, there is an LED display that will drop to 0.00. Also, you can run dry. All you notice is mpg drops significantly. A sensitive voltage sensing switch is inside the control box. It closes when 13.5 volts of power is detected and opens when voltage drops below 13 volts. The only way more that 13.5 volts can be present at the battery termianls is when the engine is running and the alternator is out putting voltage to the battery. When the engine stops, voltage drops back to 12.6- 12.8 and the systems shuts down. It is a true HOD system. Safety first. Amp draw for a 3 liter engine is less than 300 mA.
Hope this helps. To learn more visit our web site www.fuelgeniesystems.com . We also have video on our RUclips channel of customer testimonials. Also, video results showing engine telemetry real time on the highway.
@@fuel-genie-systems1 does this run 100% on water? i dont need to put gas anymore?
@@ReggyCharles It creates Enhanced Air which makes adds fuel to the engine in gaseous form. You still need gas or diesel fuel.
I have a 2006 Yaris and 2015 Yaris. Do you have a video showing the installation on a Yaris?
How does the OBDCII plug in device work? It gets a bit fuzzy when you describe that bit.
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Verry good 👍
Thanks for the information and work. Is there a barrier in the system to keep any moisture from the intake? Just thought I’d ask since somebody might have the same inquiry.
There is no barrier. Moisture is always present in the intake since there is always moisture in the outside air. The generator produces gas only when the engine is running so there is negligible vapor in the connection hose. When it comes down to it there is water in gasoline and diesel thus we have HYDROcarbon fuels. Hope this helps
Moisture, with expasion into steam in cylinder, would add power if its getting in there...
The moisture would also help keep the cylinder head and walls clean and free of deposits.
@@FirstNameLastName-cj1nc oxygen with moisture .-.
@@edd3683 oxygen and air are 2 different things
the problem with zip ties is in florida when the temp gets over 90 degrees it makes the ties weak over the long hot summers so something else would have 2 used to secure inside the engine compartment. u have any suggestions?
Our plant is in Clearwater, FL. We have used these zip ties on our test vehicle kit for 4 years now and the reservoir is still secure in it's location. Kit comes with 4 ties so you can use two to secure the reservoir without fear of them coming loose.
Wow! Genius
I have a 2011 Scion xB that gets 20-22 mpg no matter how I drive. Looks exactly like the camry under the hood if I could get 28 mpg+ after buying and installing this kit then I'd be happy
You will be more than happy. We guarantee you will see 26 to 28 mpg on the highway with our systems.
You will see 28+ with one of these kits. Guaranteed. If not, we'll refund your entire invoice.
We (the collective) ever await your thoughts and review on this product.
We like making people happy.
I would love to try this on my 2016 Dodge Challenger
Just installed it on my 2019 tundra.
Ill keep you posted
Please keep us posted I got a toyota sequoia I'm thinking of putting it on
How's it working?
How’s it working!
Very curious because im going to buy one soon I would appreciate your response have a nice day.
He's dead
If I have a 4.0 liter engine. Does it matter which kit I get? I like the idea of the smaller kit since my wife has a 3.6 liter engine. So it might swap to her suv at some point.
Rick. We have one size reservoir. It works on all engines up to 7 liters. The only difference is the amount of current you add to the system with the wireless remote control and LED display. 0.13amps is a good setting for Prius and small engines, 0.30amps is a good setting for 3.6 liter engines. Amp setting differ from car to car due to engine status.
I have a 2008 mustang gt v8. Straight pipe with headers and I'm about to install high performance camshafts and I wax thinking what difference would be with the hydrogen kit? I have a sct programmer.
You would be an experimenter if you put one of our kits on your Mustang. We have no experience in how our kits works with them. Sorry
What was the outcome regarding power and fuel average?
All our customers are getting between 25% and 35% increases in mpg on the highway and around 15% in town.
I am extremely interested in doing this with my mothers 2012 Altima and my 06 Silverado. I’ve seen where people are getting 56% increase. Your product looks very positive but your not claiming 56% increase. So is it possible to make your system more efficient without overheating?
I personally am skeptical of claims of more than 40% increases in mpg. 40% increase in mpg on the highway is the most we have ever seen with our systems. They don't overheat. Most efficient operating temp range is 45°- 125°. There is no system on the market today that more efficient than ours.
We use only 0.3 amps of current to generate the amount of hydronium needed to increase mpg by 30% in a 3 liter engine. No device on the market today can do that. We also have a wireless remote control so you can adjust the amount of hydronium going to the engine while driving on the road. Now you can adjust for best mpg while driving.
Thank you for the compliment on the design.
@@fuel-genie-systems1 can this system be used in the winter in ontario?? Minus temps etc thanks
I have seen many claim 50% increases in mpg but we here have never seen that increase in mpg. The largest increase in mpg comes from a customer with a 6.5 diesel engine that gets almost 40% increase in mpg. We only claim what we know to be true for our kits.
@@stevehealer9377 Yes. We have a Zero Freeze kit for climes where temps drop below -18C. Our Zero Freeze model has an internal heater microprocessor controlled to keep the solution at 10C all winter long. The double layer insulation jackets hold temps in the reservoir so the heater cycles on and off thus using very little power. You can see this model kit at: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/products.html Click this link for a free quote on your car or truck: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/quotes-2.html
@@stevehealer9377 Yes it can. Click this link to see our Zero Freeze kit for the northern climes: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/products.html
How does it work in winter conditions, the watter surely freezes. Also does it drain the battery, how much power does it use? And does it have negative impacts on exhaust sistem, does it rust?
Really good questions. Others will appreciate the answers.
The electrolyte in the reservoir will keep the solution from freezing down to zero degrees. It gets slushy like melting snow and freezes like popsicle ice. For temps lower than zero we have a heat strip that keeps a channel inside the reservoir melted so the generating core can still produce the hydrogen gasses.
There is only a drain on the battery if you have a freeze kit attached to the reservoir. The heater draws .4 amps- about the same power for the blue light on a radio dial. Other than that, there is never a drain on the battery. The system only operates when the engine is running and the alternator is charging the battery.
You will need about .21 amps to .28 amps of current for a 3 liter engine to improve mpg by 30%.
There is more water vapor present in the exhaust as there always is- gasoline is a (hydro)carbon fuel but nothing that will speed up normal rust if any. You will see some rust inside the tail pipe as opposed to black particulate matter that normally spews from the exhaust. It disappears once the engine is running.
Hope this helps. Click this link for a free quote on a kit for your car or truck: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/quotes-2.html
UPDATE: After many tests we have found that the electrolytic solution using potassium or sodium is most conductive when kept at temperatures between 50°f and 125° F. By August, we will have a kit that keeps the solution in the reservoir over 50°F with a .4 amp immersion heater (same amount of energy as your blue radio dial). This information will account for many stories of hho not working.
The closer to 32° F you get the less conductive the solution becomes. At freezing, all conductivity stops.
It is conceptualized by a Filipino Engineer Daniel Dingel, the first to run a car with water (hydrogen reactor). Now toyota produces its own car MIRAI 2021.
look up stanley meyer
Dear Sir, is connecting to the PCV valve the only way of connecting? My Mazda CX 9's PCV location is very difficult to access. The other question is do you have to tune the ECU to fool the O2 sensors?
Thanks for asking. You can use any intake manifold port to inject the hho into. Usually there is one one on the engine side of the throttle plate assembly. You can use the EGR tube also. Do not use the brake vacuum line (which will work) unless you use hose clamps on the fittings. Hope this helps.
The ECU is never touched or changed in any way. The Sensor Adjustment Module is the device that adjusts signals from the O2 sensors so the ECU won't add fuel to the mixture when the O2 sensors send a lean signal by dropping voltage. This module is programmed to each vehicle by the driver. It can be reprogrammed over and over so you can move it from one vehicle to another without any cost. It plugs into your OBD port. When the O2 sensors drop voltage to the ECU the SAM adds necessary voltage and sends that signal to the ECU. Now you are driving in a lean configuration while the ECU thinks all is normal and makes no changes to fuel.
@@fuel-genie-systems1 Had the SAM been demonstrated, at the least - mentioned that the SAM automatically learns the voltage being signaled by the 02 sensors, whether they are before or behind that catalytic converter( s) whether there is one, two, or four O2 sensors, and how the SAM Adds the equivalent voltage to each O2 sensor pulse, in time with the O2 sensors, providing the correct combined voltage to tell the ECU the vehicle is running normally.
Any vacuum port to the intake manifold will work. Some of our customers use the hose connected to the brake cylinder. There is always vacuum there.
Engines over 1.8 liters need a Sensor Adjustment Module. This module is programmed by you to your specific vehicle. It comes with a USB cable for your PC. Takes about 4 minutes to program. You can re-program it as many times as you need so you can switch the kit to another vehicle, re-program the SAM and it costs you nothing. The other end of the SAM has a cable that plugs into your OBD port under the dash. It's really simple.
@@fuel-genie-systems1 Dear Sir, can I connect the Tee to the ventilation hose? If I do, do I connect to the end closer to the engine or the other end closer to the air hose before throttle plate?
Feels too much like a "as seen on tv" pitch. I'd like to see average mpg calculated by the odometer and gallons used when filling the tank.
We did that a couple of years ago. Comments then were ..."yeah, you just added gas to the tank" so we got some electronics and documented the mileage increases real time for the unbelieving. Click this link to see more: ruclips.net/video/wTe-kPoXtx4/видео.html . You can see all our videos at Fuel Genie Systems here.
What I wanna see is an actual row of tests in laboratory conditions to eliminate the effects of air temperature, humidity, wind, and all of the dozen or so other variables which can cause fuel use fluctuations. I can get in my car right now and get 30mpg on the highway, do the same the next day at the same speed and get just 28mpg.
What you need to prove that this works is take an engine and hook it up to measure brake specific fuel consumption while controlling ALL variables, then add a HHO generator with a monitored external power supply, account for every amp going in, and take a real good look at the data.
Does the power actually increase because of the HHO?
Does the power actually increase if you account for HHO conversion and alternator losses?
If they can actually demonstrate these things in laboratory conditions and have independent peers replicate the experiments and check the original data, then I'll believe these claims, but otherwise, this is just make-believe and snake oil.
@@centralintelligenceagency9003 here is the absolute truth: if there was any mileage benefit to this snake oil, every automaker that is subject to U.S. EPA corporate average fuel economy (CAFE) requirements would embrace it immediately. There are significant fines attached to failure to meet CAFE. Before any says the automakers balk at licensing fees or royalties, this snake oil has been touted by hucksters and charlatans for decades and patent protection is likely expired or soon to be expired, if it were ever actually granted since the U.S. Patent Office does not grant patents for perpetual motion machines in any form.
@@walterk1221 wrong. They are in bed with the petroleum corporations.But there is already hydrogen water cell vehicles already on the market, research it.
@@whatsupdocchemdog5994 I am not at liberty to expand upon this but I worked with DARPA on hydrogen fuel cells so I am quite familiar and I dare say much more familiar than most.
Love how he has a full tank of gas
Fuel Genie plus intallation in the $800 got it love it only in the USA
Snake oil my friend
TIP - Always use the BOX END of the wrench so you don't punch a hole in the battery !!!!!
oops.......
If you punch a hole in a battery with an open end wrench you should just put the tools down
@@matthewwiersma2031 LOL !! For sure!!
Only if you're a klutz.
Looks fishy. Should have at least shown the car bring driven before the installation to the what it was like.
Agreed, simply put, too good to be true - ruclips.net/video/s2t11GR6jFc/видео.html
Not driven but rather operated on a chassis dynamometer by a competent operator rather than a huckster driving uphill for the "before" and downhill for the amazing "after".
would a kit like this work on a obs ford f-150? i’m very interested in trying this out. i get around 12-13 miles per gallon and want to see how much better it could get
Hello Vinson. We have a kit that will increase mpg on the highway by a minimum of 20%. If you are getting 12-13 mpg, you will see 15-16. c If you want a free quote for the kit you need click this link: www.mileagemastersusa.com . Scroll to the bottom. Fill out the request form and send it in to us. I'll send you a free quote for your car or truck. If you accept, click the link to the order form. We'll send a secure invoice to you. Once the funds clear our bank we ship in two days. If you have any questions before you order please let me know. I'm happy to help in any way.
Is this system compatible with dual fuel engines?
I have a gasoline engine car with LPG system installed (not from factory). Will the system you sell safely work with such combination?
Great question. I really cannot answer honestly. We had a fellow in the Netherlands buy a kit for his VW converted from gas to LPG. We never heard back from him.
We know our kits work well on gasoline and diesel fuels. There is sulfur in those hydrocarbon fuels and no sulfur in LPG. Sulfur is important in the chemical reactions happening in the combustion chamber. Without it, your mpg will improve but only 15-20%. The engine running on gasoline however will see increases of 25-35% in mpg on the highway. You would be experimenting when using propane- we have no direct knowledge of the effects. It would be safe though in any case.
@@fuel-genie-systems1 thank you for the reply. I appreciate it.
If you have proper knowledge in basic physics,
you know the the first law of thermodynamics!
Education is priceless!
The "Fuel Genie System" is a useless piece of crap! :D
Please enlighten my simple brain
@@Cocoflava There is simply not enough HHO to do anything significant as this guy claims here. Maybe with a device 10 times bigger and modifications to the PCM. Basically this guy is full of it with his PROOF. HHO does work on ICE engines with mods but the amount needed is on the risk level of dangerous. I've fiddled with small engines that don't travel down the road with risk of collision. It worked for me after my 20th or so trial of tweaking things, I noticed a substantial increase in the torque, some economy improvement & a reduction of smoke coming out the muffler. I'm simply not inclined to put a larger system in a larger engine moving down the highway. For that camry engine, that device is laughably small.
there is no increase in the potential NRG of the system correct ... but an increase in efficiency. If the exhaust leaves at a lower enthalpy, would you not say there was an improvement in the process? If you harnessed that increase for a longer duration per rev of the crank?
You are improving the extraction of the potential NRG of the system. The loss of conversion at the alternator and then again with the electrolysis, allows you to manipulate the combustion process, so that more of the available NRG is extracted. That is all ... so physics is not being broken.
It is through a reduction of inherent loses and inefficiencies of the combustion engine that generates the improvement. Namely the reduction of timing allowing less torque loss on the upstroke of the compression stroke. Additionally the percent of the combustion stroke is increased ... longer time using the same power per revolution. Additionally the enthalpy of the exhaust is lower meaning more NRG was extracted from the process.
While I agree that this guys product is absolutely laughable for the stated use (and he is full of crap hawking the improvement in MPG he claims), HHO has been proven to improve ICE efficiency, and to a lesser degree CIE.
EJ. Education is priceless. You need some more before you make statements showing your lack of the latest science. How is it possible for a human brain to actually see videos of how well something works and call it bunk?
You never needed a lot of hydrogen gasses to increase mpg. Most amateur tinkerers never did the research necessary to establish the correct ratio of hydrogen gasses to fresh air for optimal increases in mpg. Too much hydrogen and power will decrease. When you lean the mixture too much with hydrogen gasses, you need to press further on the accelerator to maintain speed thus you use more gas with too much hydrogen.
We have done the research and we know. Our customers know. Seems only you are missing out on this emerging technology. Visit our web site fuelgeniesystems.com and you can see many videos of customers who are absolutely stunned with how well the system works. How can over 400 people (not all on video) be wrong about out product who actually HAVE the system on their vehicles and you be right with your speculations? I make to you the same promise we have on our web site: If you don't see an increase of at least 20% in mpg on the highway, send the kit back and we'll refund your money including postage. It costs you nothing if what you say is correct. Watch all the videos on our RUclips page. These people are not lying.
@@fuel-genie-systems1
I don't expect that you agree ...
But first, there is the first law of thermodynamics!
It mean in simple words, the amount of energy in a closed system is equal. If you suck more from the alternator to run a HHO generator, you need more fuel.
And secound, try some simple math:
How many Air suck in your engine at 2000 rpm? A 2 liter (4stroke) engine need 1000 liter air at 2000 rpm! How many liter HHO comes from your HHO generator in one minute? I guess (optimistic) 0,1 liter. So you add the amount of one water glas of HHO to 1000 liter Air.
I will call it Fuel-Homeopathy! :D
It only work for believer.
Finaly, you talk about the "latest science".
There is nothing new on your "snake oil" tecnology! NOTHING!
Even if it didn't increase the fuel mileage, the HHO should make the engine run cooler and cleaner, extending the life of the engine and helping the environment. I have no doubt it improves mileage, though. I've seen many reports.
The unit is small enough to probably not make a notable difference; however, typical HHO generator "size " suggestion is 1LPM per liter of engine displacement. For Example, a 1996 Thunderbird is equipped with a 4.6 liter engine. the Installed generator for that size engine would be a recommended 5 liter per minute generator. Thant pool filter used in the example is not going to generate 5 liters of hydrogen off of a 5 amp draw off of the car's 12v battery.. you would need to come off the alternator generating upwards between 30 and 50 amps.
fracking hydrogen from water at that amp draw generates a great deal of heat. and strapping a hot foaming angry can of hydrogen next to your battery is not the coolest location to install it. Hydrogen is very volatile, and one missing implement most others in the HHO community recommend is a flash back arrest or, or a bubbler between generator and intake,. Should there be any leak and random spark, the ensuing fire would stop at that arresting device, allowing for the safety of your vehicle , the equipment, and time to go ahead and hose clamp every hydrogen connection.
@@williamedwards6519 Science has evolved since you learned about hho. We have over 400 kits sold to customers around the world. We have a distributor in Canada and two in negotiations overseas. Out kits are tried and proven to work.
First of all, you only need small amounts of hydrogen enhanced air to increase mpg noticibly. We use titanium micro mesh electrodes infused with 2 rare earth elements to generate H3O (hydronium-look it up, it's the real hho) These rare earth elements generate 9 times their weight in hydrogen and oxygen at the respective poles. We pass the hydronium over and ionized filter making it into an ionized plasma gas. This gas breaks the long hydrocarbon molecules into smaller molecules that burn faster and more completely. Thus- more power.
All this is true for what is called a WET system. In a DRY system, H2 and O2 are mostly the resultant gasses. They will indeed lean the mixture so the engine becomes more efficient but they do not produce very much hydronium. This is why our customers see increases of 25% -40% in mpg on the highway. We create hydronium. Works nine times better with less amperage. We only use .3 amps to increase mpg on a 3 liter gas engine 30% on the highway. Hope this update on the science helps.
@@williamedwards6519 WOW. Just now reading your comment. It was way down the comment list but needs addressing.
We create a gas called hydronium. It's not hho- a misnomer for a gas that no one knew what to call it back in the early 1900s.
We use titanium electrodes infused with rare earth metals that generate 9 times their weight in H2 at the cathode and 9 times their weight in O2 at the anode. This allows us to generate a more concentrated gas a much lower amps. Typical amps for a 3 liter engine gaining 30% increase in mpg at 75mph is 0.30. We have documented this so many times with many videos on our web site www.fuelgeniesystems.com.
You do not- I repeat do not need a lot of hydrogen to improve mpg. Older stainless steel systems need huge amperage to generate whet we do with less that one amp.
There is also the chemical aspect of the mpg improvement that most here never address.
Saltpeter- potassium nitrate + charcoal + sulfur = gunpowder. Look it up.
Sodium nitrate is a weaker form of saltpeter.
The hydronium we make in the reservoir is passed through an ionized filter turning the hydronium into an ionized gas- plasma if you will.
This plasma acts as an acid when it comes into contact with hydrocarbon compounds.
It breaks the long molecular chains of hydrocarbon fuels into smaller molecules of sulfur and carbon (charcoal) and some harmless salts.
Now not only do we get the benefit of increased torque from the lean configuration of the engine but we also get a small boost for the gaseous elements of gunpowder created in the combustion chamber.
All who have worked with hho in the past know that too much hydrogen to the engine reduces mpg. This is because it leans the mixture so much you have to press harder on the accelerator to keep the same speed ergo: loss of mpg.
Another point is that you need more hydrogen gasses going to the engine as rpms increase. We now have a remote controlled system that you can adjust with a wireless remote fob for best increase in mpg while driving on the highway. A giant step forward in this technology.
Hope this helps you understand more about the science of how these systems work.
How do I join this group
I have Seinna 2007 2gr engine will it work for it
So it looked like it was getting about 40-43 mpg or so with the system. What was that very same care getting prior to the HHO system being installed?
Shane. She (neighbor) was getting around 30 mpg on the highway at that speed. She's a neighbor. The kit is over 2 years old and still works like new. She is very happy
Can you run the feeding hose directly into the intake or intake tube ? Rather than the pcv ?
You can but you won't get the best increase in mpg. We don't guarantee a 20% increase unless you attach the output hose of the reservoir to the intake manifold someway.
How does the car know to reduce the amount of fuel it sends to the combustion chamber? Wouldn’t you need to reprogram the PCM for maximum fuel gains?
Great question. When the O2 sensors determine the mixture is lean (less fuel/ more air) it drops voltage to the ECU (PCM). The ECU then tells the injectors to stay open longer to return to the program AFR settings. If your engine is over 1.8 liters you will need a Sensor Adjustment Module to keep the ECU from making corrections for a lean mixture.
The SAM is programmed with the same 3d map as your ECU. It knows what voltage the O2 sensors should be putting out at any rpm. It samples the O2 sensor signals 20,000/min. When O2 sensors detect a lean mixture they drop voltage to the ECU but now, the SAM sees that voltage drop and adds the necessary voltage then sends that signal to the ECU. The ECU sees the expected voltage from the O2 sensors but in reality you are driving with a lean mixture.
Hope this helps.
@@fuel-genie-systems1 you speak total bullshit. you should be ashamed of yourself for such lies.
@@fuel-genie-systems1 deamn good answer sir 👌
Good question. The simple answer is the engine reduces fuel to the engine when you less pressure on the accelerator. These kits allow the engine to run "Lean"- more air-less fuel. This improves engine efficiency and as a result you don't have to press as far on the accelerator to maintain the same speed as before.
@@fuel-genie-systems1 why did you answer him twice? 🤔
I put a HHO system on my "97 Jeep with a 4.0L years ago. When the Jeep's computer detected more O2 from the split water molecule (2 parts oxygen, 1 part hydrogen) it would think the mixture was lean and put more fuel in. And then the MPG would go back to where is was before or worst. How do you compensate for for O2 so the computer doesn't enriched the fuel mixture?
Seems like this is pretty scammy all these cars are gonna compensate with fuel
That was then. This is now. We now have Sensor Adjustment modules that plug into the OBD port. They are "Smart Modules" and compensate not only for addition of hho (hydronium) but also learn your driving habits intown and on the highway. Click this link to see them: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/products.html
@@andrewmoen105 See above
@@andrewmoen105 I had a rudimentary a HHO system on my "97 Jeep years ago and I fiddled with. That Jeep normal would get 15-18 mpg on the highway doing about 60 mph with cruise on. With the A/C on in the summer you could cut 1-3 mpg off that. With my rudimentary HHO system I got as high as 26 MPG @ 70 mph with the A/C on. These systems do work & the science behind them is solid.
When these HHO systems are turned on they split the water molecule producing 2 oxygen molecules (O2) & 1 hydrogen molecule (H). My O2 sensors would detect more O2 thinking the engine was running lean. Over the next 3-4 tanks of fuel the Jeep's computer would enrichen the fuel mixture & the MPG would go back to what it started at.
I did not know how to tell my O2 sensors that the additional O2 was ok. Sounds like these guys got it figured out.
Would I call these systems “pretty scammy” ?? Nope.
I would figure that when installed & operated as designed the MPG results will be impressive!
Nice I'm going to have to try it I've always been sceptical but sounds like it's finally worth a shot
Would this work if I have a supercharger, and how much better mpg can I expect on something like a tundra?
We have many customers with superchargers and turbos with these kits. All are satisfied with the results.
What should do for the cold weather like canada? Should I add alcohol to water mix
We have a model made especially for temps below 20° C. Our Zero Freeze model has an immersion heater inside the reservoir. It has a thermal controller powered by a microprocessor so it uses less than .4 amps over a 24 hour period when temps are below 20C. IT maintains 9°C all year round. When outside temps are above 9C it turns off.
Probably need a heat shield for those wires
So, you're using fuel to make electricity, and then you use that electricity to make fuel. And somehow that half a gram of hydrogen blows up the mpg...nah.
Jaaaa.... we use .3 amps of 12 dc current to move 4,000 lbs. down a highway at 60 mpg for 28 miles. That is the difference in mileage on a 3 liter engine using 4.25 gallons of gas. Without out system, we used 4.25 gallon to travel 60 miles at 60 mph. We the travelled the same stretch of highway and got 88 miles on the same 4.25 gallons. Moving that much metal at that speed on only .3 amps is stellar in any sense of the word. Click this link: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/quotes-2.html I'll send you a free quote. If you don't get at least a 20% increase in mpg on the highway we'll but the kit back from you including postage. How's that for trust in our product?
You have to understand the difference between hydrogen as a fuel and gasoline as a fuel. This is called the heating value of the fuel. The heating value of hydrogen is approximately 400% greater than that of gasoline. This is the BTU per pound mass of the fuel. Gasoline is approximately 22000 BTU/lbm. Hydrogen is about 80000 BTU/lbm.
@@arne6787 I don't see how this somehow defeats the second law of thermodynamics.
Unfortunately the energy of a closed system can't get increase without external input. If you put 10 watts of power to make hydrogen, you will get less than 10 watts out of the result. Always. And forever.
@@AdrianOkay it's not breaking them. That's why 😂
@@jintarokensei3308 It's wasted breath. They simply do not understand that we're showing how to make hydrogen cheaply. Then we're showing how adding hydrogen to your intake will improve mileage. It's that simple so a little education into how it works should be read by all those who say it doesn't work. Click this link and see how and why it works. Proven automotive mechanics:www.fuelgeniesystems.com/how-it-works-1.html.
I was still looking for that increase. The fuel mileage sensor jumped around so much in that couple of seconds. I'd have liked about 2-3 minutes of constant servailense to really see if it was working. Also how often do you have to refill that.
Sounds like an electronic component is not working correctly. Contact me at info@fuelgeniesystems.com. We'll fix that. Refil every 5,000 miles for 3 liter engine.
@Marcus Keeler i think he means the Instant Fuel Consumption Display is jumping around...
It means that You Are wasting time and money on this crap
Live estimates can jump around like that on a car that actually has this type of monitoring. The screen there is fake
I know the taxi industry in my country would love the mod given that it works on all car models so my question is how does one become a distributor?
Cllick this link and we'll send you information about becoming a distributor: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/become-a-distributor.html.
Have to say though, in-town mpg is impossible to measure accurately. We measure increases in mpg on the highway at 65 mph. Cars are more responsive in the city and toxic emissions are reduced to almost zero but how much it will save on gas in the city no one can say. If you're still interested click the link about above and we'll start the process. It costs nothing to become a distributor.
A better Principle is to Connect One of the Wires to the " Alternator " Then you Have a True
[ Passive ] Online Demand System . And Yes you should have an on/off Switch w/ a Circuit Breaker [ instead of an inline Fuse ] System !
We actually do just that. In the wireless remote processor box the is a voltage sensor that closes the circuit when the alternator is sending a charge to the battery. GMTA
@@fuel-genie-systems1 could you please send to me the charging cell how many imprs ? Is a different on each cars ? Please respond.thanks
@@haider7232 Please clarify the meaning of imprs?
@@haider7232 Please explain imprs?
How often do you replace the water and what is the maintenance of the system consist of?
Great questions. The water in the reservoir will last for 5,000 miles on a 3 liter engine. Less with larger engines, more with smaller engines. 6 liter engines about 3,500 miles between fill-ups.
Titanium plates mean no rust so there's absolutely no maintenance needed. Just add water solution and drive. It's really quite remarkable.
Is the connector bracket on the head of the vehicle in which direction should it be connected and how much gasoline did you save?
Bracket mounting makes no difference in the effectiveness of these kits. We guarantee a minimum 20% increase or a full refund of your invoice. Our customers are getting 25%-35% increases in mpg on the highway .
I was reading through your comments and it seems like this would allow me to run 87 on my turbocharged engine is that true
That is absolutely true.
Hello will this work on my Mercedes-Benz S430 2001? Thank you. Very cool stuff.
Yes it will. We have 6 or 7 Mercedes customers already. Two with diesel engines. All are happy.
Yes it will. If you check out the rest of the videos on the Fuel Genie Systems site here, you will see a retired Rolls Royce engineer with a system mounted on his Mercedes and an explanation.
@@fuel-genie-systems1 Thankyou very much.
Ok i see 1 vacuum hose hooked up. So the hydro fuel sucks into the motor through that single hose?
Chad, yes. The enhanced gasses (hydronium) is produced in the reservoir and then sucked into the intake manifold through the 3/8" hose. People are just now beginning to realize the power of just a small amount of hydrogen.
I would like to see an updated video showing all the new items in the kit, installed on a newer model car. Thank you.
Coming. We have a new design in production. New video should be out in one month.
I’ll hold you to it. I hope you guys have a military veterans discount.
@@TalonNismo 5% off total cost for all vetrans.
Don't waste your time. They are frauds
How are we looking?
I did a lot of research about these about 5yrs ago but honestly probably forgot some details, but arent you supposed to have some sort of computer bypass/modded o2 sensor or something that makes it so the ecu doesnt correct itself? The o2 sensor/ecu will detect more air and pump more fuel to even out the mixture. So youre supposed to tell the ecu to left off of that extra fuel bc the hho is making up for it. And from there, you can keep tuning to maximize mileage. A lot of ppl didnt do this, and thats why a lot of ppl said it doesnt work, but everyone that made it work made sure to do this.
Correct you are. We call them Sensor Adjustment Modules or SAMs for short. They are programmed by the customer to their make, model and year of vehicle. They then know what values the ECU is looking for at certain rpms. So when O2 sensors drop voltage to the ECU- signalling a lean mixture, the ECU keeps injectors open longer to richen the mixture back to default values. With the SAM plugged into the OBD port, it samples 20,000/min the O2 signal out put. When the O2 sensors drop voltage now, the SAM adds the necessary voltage and sends that signal to the ECU. Now the ECU thinks all is well but in actuality, the engine is running lean.
Since high pressure steam is a decent refrigerant gas, the combustion temp cools as the piston expands the volume on it's way down the cylinder. Hope this helps.
@@fuel-genie-systems1 that is high quality info thank you
@@hassanjacobs7506 You are welcome
Can I install two kits on my Honda Accord?
Why? Do you want the extra miles per gallon from your wallet being double-lightened? This crap has been completely discredited both analytically and empirically.
What Happen to the Before MPG " I think is was 47+ Now its less...?
hello am good to see this technology. my question is, fuel in West Africa is expensive and am very sure many will jump to this but is worth it for a 1ltr to 1.5ltr as most of these cars are used for commercial purposes here?
If the cars are used at speeds over 50 mph you will see a 25%-35% increase in mpg. In town only a 12% to 18%. If you drive mostly in town it's not worth it except it reduces toxic exhaust emissions to almost zero.
What if you add 2 of these together will you get even better mileage?
No. You only need two if the engine is larger than 7.5 liters. Click this link to see our newest model. It's adjustable with wireless remote. Lets you adjust for best mpg while driving on the highway. You only need a small amount of hydrogen to boost mpg significantly.
If you'd like a free quote click this link: Click this link and we'll send you a free quote for your car or truck: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/fbquote.html
@@fuel-genie-systems1 Thanks I'm looking at some online now. I'll get back to you soon.
I've seen other videos that were like, "By default, HHO generators do NOTHING for modern day cars when it comes to MPG" I can't remember the details. But, I just saw a comment on another video that says you have to "lean out the engine" to get any better gas mileage with an HHO generator. Just connecting a generator ain't gonna do squat except maybe keep your engine cleaner.
That comment:
"captainwho1
1 month ago (edited)
When I was studying this sort of rabidly (lol) several years ago , the last time gasoline got around $4 per gallon I definitely determined that for HHO to produce a fuel economy benefit it is absolutely mandatory to set the engine leaner. I read a scientific paper or two or three(?) on this and the hydrogen boosting has the ability to speed up the flamefront in the engine cylinder allowing a leaner burn and also you can adjust the ignition timing so that there is peak brake mean effective pressure at a more opportune time relative to the position of the crankshaft. Like everything the devil's in the details. Going leaner on the carburetor is mandatory.
PS - I hope you aren't sick of the accolades but I think your efforts are absolutely amazing! "
---The video it's from where someone tested an HHO generator with a generator.
ruclips.net/video/dOiXpCpVofQ/видео.html
So, yes, you CAN Get better MPG but you're gonna have to have a mechanic do some engine and probably computer tweaks.
The technology has matured. You do not need to do anything other than install the kit on carburated engines to get better mpg. On fuel injected engines, you must use some sort of EFIE to adjust O2 sensor signals to the ECU or you will get no increase in mpg.
The fact of just adding hydrogen and oxygen gasses to your engine leans the mixture. As you say. lesn= less gas: more air.
Hello, does this work on all vehicles. And how is it maintained please?
Yes. These kits do indeed work. We have been in business for 12 years now. If we were scamming people we would be out of business. Over 300 customers have purchased a kit in the past 10 months and no one has asked to return them. We have installers here in the US who make decent money on the side installing these kits and distributors in Canada and Fiji. I'd say this is a fair endorsement on the performance of these kits.
They work on all reciprocating gasoline and diesel engines. We have no tests confirming but a fellow in Holland bought a kit last year and says his VW that was converted to propane gets better mileage with this kit. Again, no confirmation just a satisfied customer. If you'd like a free quote on a kit for your car click this link and I'll get one out to you: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/quotes-2.html
😂not usable for Tesla cars 😂😂😂 but for Nicolas Teslas car
Hho is work for carburator engine..
That's why there is no more carburator type engine..all are computerized and automatic mixture of gasoline,0² etc..
How long does the sodium hydroxide last per gallon? How much does sodium hydroxide cost? What was your car getting for MPG stock? So your car got an extra 5 miles per gallon?
A 3 liter engine will use i gal of solution every 14,000 miles approximately. You can buy it sodium hydroxide in any ACE hardware store. It's in the plumbing section in a white plastic bottle called Roto Rooter 100% PURE LYE. Costs about $5.00/ bottle and lasts about two years. The Camry gained about 30% more miles per gallon.
@@fuel-genie-systems1 Thank for responding back to me and answering my questions! Best Regards!
I’m very intrigued!.. I guess I have two questions. Longevity wise: running lean won’t hurt the engine at all long term? And then next question: I know this is to gain gas mileage, but have you guys done any tests to see whether adding the hyrodgen enriched air increases Horsepower at all?
Hydrogen enhanced air leans the mixture. Normally this makes the engine run hot. Adding hydrogen to the air intake creates superheated steam in the combustion chamber. As the pistom moves down the cylinder the volume expands and the steam as a refrigerant gas cools the combustion temp down to below 300F. Our kits allow you run lean without over heating. Since the flash is happening after TDC with a lean mixture, it improves torque on the crankshaft. There is a bit of power added but it's the lean mixture that yields gas savings.
Would this work on my vehicles I have a 91 Chevy 1500 and 2015 Chevy impala limited and would love to get better mileage
We have kits for both your vehicles. Second kit comes with a discount. Click this link for a free quote: www.mileagemastersusa.com . At the top click request free quote.
... i dont quite get how it uses less fuel... don't fuel injectors still inject fuel into combustion chambers at regular intervals and the standard capacity as they used to before the hydrogen implementation?
Leo. Click this link to the explanation on our web site: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/how-it-works-1.html. Basically, adding hydrogen to your engine allows it to run in a lean configuration without over heating. When you run lean, mpg increases and performance increases. High pressure water vapor in the comboustion chamber keeps the temp below 300°F as it exits the exhaust manifold. Hope this helps. If you have other questions just ask.
@@fuel-genie-systems1 but wouldn’t you need to program your computer for that?
Everything remains the same except the improved combustion will make you press less on the accelerator to keep the same speed as before. Ergo: you use less gas going the same speed.
How to maintain the life span of battery and protect the anode body of car for long use? Addition of solar panels with another sacrificial battery would be good
Hello I have a 2021 nissan titan truck, would this be good kit for it?
Yes. We have a kit that will increase mpg 25% or more on the highway. Click this link: www.mileagemastersusa.com/free-quote-form . Fill out the form and send it back. I'll send you a free quote complete with shipping.
What about cooling system? You’re just gonna be boiling water on a hot day or does it adjust and account for that
This process does not produce much heat at all since power consumption is below 500 mA. SAN reservoirs will withstand 165 F however we have never seen temps under the hood in FL sun go above 135.
Project farm did a test on something like this. Results very slight increase of gas useage.
Key words: "Something like this. " Watch our videos. Seeing is believing. Nobody has ever used rare earth metals on electrodes before. We are the only ones. We make hydronium and ionize it into a plasma. That we feed into the intake manifold. Works great. Have you seen ANY negative reviews on our products. We know how to meter the gas. If you don't meter it correctly, you don't get any increase in mpg.
@@fuel-genie-systems1 while yes in theory hydrogen can increase mpg, this product can not as this product does not actually separate hydrogen from water, this product only appears to work because the bubbles are air from the engine.
Hi to you , What does the petrol do I mean is the petrol hose removed? is this closed? so the carbature only receives hydrogen
The gas we make is an air additive. It enhances combustion..
Can i use tap water insted? And somthing else than sodium hydroxied? Maybe table salt
You can use tap water. Mineral or spring water is best. Only sodium hydroxide will yield the results we claim.
Connecting to the PCV system doesn't directly pull into the intake system. Right???
The PCV hose connects to a vacuum port usually found on the intake manifold just behind the throttle plate assembly
Hi, is it posible to buy the fuel genie system like in the video also in europe, and how much does it cost ?
We ship to all European countries. We ship to 38 countries around the world. For a free quote on the cost of a kit for your vehicle, click this link:www.fuelgeniesystems.com/quotes-2.html. Send the form to us and we'll quote you a price.
How's this effect the O2 sensor? Does this make the computer feed more gasoline to compensate for the leaner exhaust?
We have an electronic module that plugs into the OBD port that aleviates that problem. It adjust O2 sensor signals to the ECU to the expected voltages at any certain rpm.
@@fuel-genie-systems1
What a OBD2 plug with another led that flashes 🤣
That is a computer module. It samples the O2 sensor signals 20,000/min. It adjusts the signals so the car's computer will not make adjustments to richen the mixture when they read it as lean.
@@MegaRyan123456
@@fuel-genie-systems1
It's not "misleading" information mate
You can upload a map through the obd port and change settings on the ECM of some cars
However there is no OBD2 funcion that allows live changes to the fuel map 🤣
You can really only flash the ECM of most cars though the port
I have had cars before were you can live tune but the ECM is flashed with very specific software
Your full of s@#t
do i have to service my car more frequently, after all, hydrogen burns and releases water vapour, if that water vapour cools, it turns in to water, what happens to my engine oil if the water eventually makes it down the cylinder and mixes with the engine oil, wont the water vapour cause problems when the engine cools down? also, do i need to set timing for a later ignition as hydrogen burns more rapidly than normal feul?
Water vapor never reaches your crankcase oil. Rings prevent that. Residual moisture in the unfired cylinders is burned off on the first firing of the spark plug in those cylinders. The super heated steam created in the combustion chamber cleans the piston, valve seats, injectors and spark plugs, it cools the combustion temp to below 300° at the exhaust manifold from expansion.
Hope this helps.
Will it work on a 2022 GMC Yukon with a 3.0 duramax Diesel engine???
Yes. We have many duramax customers with this engine. All are getting over 35 mpg on the highway now.
@@fuel-genie-systems1 lies
Whats the life span of one of these units?
If there is a life span, do they fail suddenly or lose effeciency over time?
Currently the oldest working system we have is on our test vehicle. It is just shy of 5 years now since we installed it. Still going strong. The titanium plates will last for years. The plastic pieces and electronics are guaranteed for one year. If they work that long they will last for years. We replace free any parts under warranty. These devices will not lose efficiency over time as we have observed. If they do, you can still adjust the amperage up to compensate with the wireless remote control
@@fuel-genie-systems1 do you guys do shipping to south africa
@@zandinkonzo5940 Contact our African Distributor in Ghana info@fuelmagician.com
I can only speak from experience. We have the first prototype of the current kit on our lab rat (Ford 3 liter gas engine) working now over 4.5 years. There is no deterioration of the rare earth titanium plates and mpg is better than it was initially 4 years ago.
Do they help to reduce emmisions?
How is your battery consumption during the trip?
Out kits draw less than 0.30 amps for a 3 liter engine getting 30% increase in mpg on the highway
Did you run the gas to throttle body?
Did you need to disconnect the file line .
The gas is injected into a port on the intake manifold just behind the throttle body. There the gas injected is mixed more evenly with the fresh intake air.
@@fuel-genie-systems1 that is NOT INTAKE! STOP LYING!
So, does the system continually run and draw voltage from the battery?
These are HOD kits. Hydrogen-On-Demand. They only produce gas when the engine is running. When the engine cuts off the system turns off with it.
The system only turns on when the alternator sends a charge to the battery. The system itself draws between 0.15 amps and 0.75 amps depending on engine size. It's the current from the alternator that activates and deactivates the system.
Good I am very like
Will this be great for my Ford probe gas prices higher than ever
You will be very impressed with the increase in mpg. Pre 1996?
I have a 2020 Pathfinder with a 3.7L engine. With this work?
We refund your entire invoice if you don't get a minimum of 20% increase in mpg on the highway. We know you will see 25-35% increases.
does it improve exaust emmissions?
Really happy you asked that. Click this link to another RUclips video showing how these kits clean up toxic exhausts: ruclips.net/video/uUq6cks7qAU/видео.html . We don't advertise this yet but they also improve exhaust acidity from an average of pH4.2 to pH 6.3. Since pH is a log rhythm this means these devices reduce acidity in the air 2,000 times. Important to keeping acid rain at a minimum in cities and runoff into rivers, lakes and streams.
does that mean if i run out of hydro will the petrol will take over?
The engine always burns gasoline. This hydrogen gas is added to the intake air and makes the air in the engine more combustible. If the reservoir happens to run dry, nothing happens except you will see your mpg drop. These kits last 5,000 miles between refills so when you change your oil, fill the reservoir up to the fill mark and that's all you need to do.
If you're connected directly to the battery why did it wait till you started the car before it started the molecule separation?
The control box connected to the battery has a voltage sensor inside. It closes when the alternator sends a charging voltage to the battery of 13.5 volts or more. There is a 3 second lag for the alternator voltage to output voltage once the engine starts.
Is there a way to make this viable in the winter? I live in the Midwest so I imagine when it gets cold you can't run this because the water will freeze.
You would need our Zero Freeze model. It has an internal heater thermally controlled by a micro-processor. It maintains reservoir temps above 45 F. When temps are above 50F it shuts the heater off. Because of the double layer insulation the heater cycles on and off when temps are below zero which draws very little amperage from the battery.
@@fuel-genie-systems1 Is there a lowest temperature allowable for this system? Also if it stays cold for an extended period would this kill my car battery?
@@gomerkyle7425 We have only tested this temp controlled kit down to -5° F. At that temp, we saw a loss of 1.2 amps on the battery in 24 hours. We connected that battery to an F150 and it started right up. If you expect not to start the engine for longer than 30 hours, we recommend attaching a trickle charger to the battery. For temps lower than -5° we have no data but I am sure the drain on the battery would be more.
What would the mpg look like on a 2007 crown vic?
Wish I could post a picture here. Click this link and I'll send you a complete free quote: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/quotes-2.html . I can also send you a picture of an installaton in a Crown Vic.
@Fuel Genie Systems my friends want me to test it first, but it blew their minds. I'll get information over to you. Thank you again for everything you've done for our planet and our wallets!
Will this work on a 6.0L engine or i gotta buy 6 of them?
Absolutely. Watch this video and see just how effective these kits are: ruclips.net/video/5fKaP2GFF8Q/видео.html
Is it possible to do this in cold climate without thr water freezing
Yes. Click this link to see the Zero Freeze models. www.fuelgeniesystems.com/products.html.
Would this work on a 2019 Ram 1500 5.8 L V8?
Absolutely. We guarantee it.
Will this work on a Toyota Highlander and a Tacoma?
Yes. Toyota ECU programming allows our kits to gain the most mpg increases. More than Ford, GMC or Honda. Click this link for a free quote: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/quotes-2.html.
Hello can this be purchased for a 1.2 petrol Hyundai ? I see on website most of the ones sold are for 1.5 litres and above... thank you for your time:)
Sorry I didn't see your question. We will have a new MINI Genie coming out next week. It still has to be photographed and instructions have to be finished. Click this link and I'll send you a free quote: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/quotes-2.html . You'll be in our system and when they do come our with prices, you can be ahead of the others who want one.
Will this work on my 94 F150, 302?
Very much so. These kits work on all ICEs, diesel or gasoline, makes no difference. It will work on your F150. We guarantee a 20% increase in mpg or we buy the system back from you including postage.
2017 Honda civic 1.5 turbo, Works on it?
Yes. Click this link for a quote: www.mileagemastersusa.com/free-quote-form-2
Couple of questions.
For any HHO installation, does the car need to be re tuned from company specifications? Also is this legal for road? Will it void warranty? And if this really works then why don't automobile companies install it in the first place? Are there negative sides for using it?
No tuning necessary. Just connect the output hose to a manifold intake port. Totally legal for the road depending on state laws. Will not void warranty (See www.fuelgeniesystems.com/products.html.). they don't teach this in school yet. Engineers are given gas and diesel to power engines.
@@fuel-genie-systems1 You're wrong, tuning needs to be done. When HHO is supplied to the engine, the CO2 is almost zero, after which the O2 sensor, which is located in the exhaust system of any car, notifies the ECM (Electronic Control Module), after which the ECM increases the fuel supply to the injectors. To prevent this from happening, you need to adjust the operation of the ECM for HHO using
Volo-FS2 chip, which connects via OBD II port plug in.
We have a Smart chip for that. It's an A I state-of-the-art chip. You can see this chip at: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/products.html . @@Greg-hp4gl
@@fuel-genie-systems1 I see, same as Volo chip. How many amps take your system and how many liters per minutes ?
I have an old classic 1970 chevelle. Would this work on such an old car?
Yes it will. It allows your engine to run lean without over heating. Lean = more air- less fuel. If you don't get a minimum of 20% increase in mpg on the highway, we will refund your invoice 100%. No one offers that on performance.
Would this work on a petrol Lexus Ls400 4 litre V8?
We guarantee it will or we refund your invoice if you live in the US.
Hi,
Can you make a video for a toyota tundra ? Thanks
For obvious reasons we cannot make a video for every vehicle. We can only post tests on customers' vehicles that allow us.
Check out our lates video of a 2021 4runner installation and road test.
Does the sodium hydroxide cause any damage to the engine or pistons?
Great question. I hear that a lot.
Sodium hydroxide (NaOH) becomes ionized when dissolved in water. This ionized solution reacts strongly with aluminum. However, once the solution is hydrolyzed two sodium atoms attach to an oxygen atom to form N2O which is a compound used in pottery. It is a harmless salt that strengthens clay in a kiln. This is the chemistry of a dry cell hho generator.
Our systems are wet cells and produce a form of hydrogen gas called hydronium (H3O). The sodium in the solution is still harmful to aluminum but only in liquid form. Sodium is important in the chemistry of our kits.
Potassium nitrate (saltpeter) is a component of gunpowder. Add sulfur and charcoal to potassium nitrate and you have gunpowder.
Sodium acts the same way as potassium but with less strength ergo, sodium nitrate + sulfur+ charcoal is a weaker form of gunpowder.
We pass the hydronium gas over a charged filter to ionize the gas into a plasma. As an ionized gas, it breaks down hydrocarbon molecules into sulfur, carbon and harmless salts.
Now all the components of a weak gunpowder are present in the combustion chamber. In addition to the H2 and O2 leaning the mixture to improve torque, we add a small explosion to the combustion. This produces more power and fuel burns more completely. This reduces emissions as well as increases mpg.
So, will sodium destroy your engine? Only if you pour the solution into the intake manifold.
Hope this answers your question. Thanks for asking.
Just curious do you sell to Australia?
Indeed we do. We ship about 1 kit per month to AUS. We have one person in Victoria who wants to be a distributor and one in Brisbane also. Click this link for a free quote: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/quotes-2.html . Add about $80-$100 US for shipping depending on where you are.
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Does the hydrogen enter through pcv? And does the car communicate with that reading of more fuel automatically? Or is a tune required?
Hydrogen gasses are sucked into the intake manifold through the port connected to the pcv valve. If your engine is over 1.8 liters, you will need a Sensor Adjustment module to adjust O2 sensor signals to the ECU for optimal increases in mpg on the highway.
Click this link for a free quote: www.fuelgeniesystems.com/quotes-2.html
@@fuel-genie-systems1 okay interesting, now I’ve seen that you’ve done tests yourself. But it’s become quite common word that this practice was a myth. However I am also familiar with a process where to essentially carbonate your fuel but with hydrogen instead. And that was proven to have little to no effect. But is it possible that people are getting the process mixed up? How exactly does the car know to cut back fuel is it’s based on air intake?
@@spray_cheese Simple. You get more power from each stroke of the pistons so you don't have to press as far on the accelerator to maintain the same speed as without our system.
@@fuel-genie-systems1 okay that makes sense. Would that change the fuel ratio depending on if your throttle body is open or not? As in when the throttle body is closed there will be a higher hydrogen ratio? And would that effect RPM? Or is that just the power of the stroke that would increase? I should also take a look at your other videos. I have only seen this one by you. Appreciate your help with my questions! This is a very interesting concept and I hope to take advantage of every bit I can!