I ordered one of those p38/ p1s from PSA a month or two ago. PSA's bragged on their website that they were surplus good or possibly surplus very good, and then the gun I ordered came in and it was absolutely rusted to hell. Luckily I ordered it from PSA to my local PSA store, so I was able to just refuse the transfer and get my money back, but it really left a bad taste in my mouth about ordering surplus sight unseen.
I was curious when PSA started getting into the milsurp/C&R game just how that would turn out? It isn't exactly their field afterall. Was the gun imported by IO/RT or CAI or PW?
I bought one of their SKS then, the guns wood is roached and I am 90% sure that thing has a body count based on how much grime and plant matter was in the receiver. Other the bluing being heavily worn however it was in good shape as far as all the metal goes.
Great video! I love my P1/P38. FYI, it was late 1963 when the reciever was marked P1 (mine is a early 1963 and is marked P38). The P1 in the video appears to be the 3rd variation (serations extending past the decock lever - earlier variations serations extended to decock lever, similar to wartime production).
It's definitely deceptive marketing. Aside from the provenance and the steel vs/ alloy frame differences, it comes down to the asking price of a P1. A P1 should never cost the same as a P38 in the same condition. That's just my opinion. I recently picked up a second P1 and a P4 (I like the differences). Excellent video!
On the flip side, markings are very different on the generations. So then it comes down to pictures being accurate to the product or not. @@rabbitholereviews
I have a cyq P.38 produced in 1944, and a P 38 / II manufactured in 1969. I've always thought any of them made after WWII were P1s or PIIs depending on the year made. I still call both of mine P38s although I'm aware of the difference. It's kinda like the magazine verses clip discussion that comes up from time to time, I know what people are talking about without the need to correct someone. These P 38s are fascinating pistols any way you call them. Love your videos and your in depth knowledge on the P 38. Thanks.
Hiii, ive just discovered your chanel and love it 🙏🏻⚔️ One question please; i have just bought a P38,and after much research, it is the *Only* P38 ive come across where the *Serial number is on the Right hand side of the slider* ,any chance yiu know why this might be ? Thank you
I noticed that on a couple sites. At first i thought "there's no way there's p38's that cheap". Then I noticed the aluminum frame and (more) modern plastic grip. Decent price for a p1 I guess, but certainly not p38's
The P5 was the most attractive and evolved but updating the P5 with a stack and a half or double stack mag would be cool. Maybe redesign it around the P99, PPQ, PDP magazine complete with long paddle mag release? A most elegant carry gun.
@@misha5670 No, Those looked like a mash up of sig, beretta and a touch of Hi-Power in the slide cuts. Made to meet a price point and be like everyone else with a tilt lock design. The P5 was still a unique beauty.
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as long as they don't pretend it's a ww2 p38 and price it accordingly, it's not deceptive in my opinion for much the same reasons you stated.
I ordered one of those p38/ p1s from PSA a month or two ago. PSA's bragged on their website that they were surplus good or possibly surplus very good, and then the gun I ordered came in and it was absolutely rusted to hell. Luckily I ordered it from PSA to my local PSA store, so I was able to just refuse the transfer and get my money back, but it really left a bad taste in my mouth about ordering surplus sight unseen.
I was curious when PSA started getting into the milsurp/C&R game just how that would turn out? It isn't exactly their field afterall. Was the gun imported by IO/RT or CAI or PW?
@@misha5670 They put up surplus guns every now and then, like those Carcanos and SKS rifles 2 years back.
I bought one of their SKS then, the guns wood is roached and I am 90% sure that thing has a body count based on how much grime and plant matter was in the receiver. Other the bluing being heavily worn however it was in good shape as far as all the metal goes.
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Why would anyone give their money to PSA?
Great video! I love my P1/P38. FYI, it was late 1963 when the reciever was marked P1 (mine is a early 1963 and is marked P38). The P1 in the video appears to be the 3rd variation (serations extending past the decock lever - earlier variations serations extended to decock lever, similar to wartime production).
Good question from Scott. Thanks
It is deceptive, P38 "style" is ok as the P38 name is known more than P1. But P1s should never be sold as a genuine P38
But calling a postwar P38 a "P1" is just as deceptive.
@misha5670 like my dad's! Made in West Germany, but marked P38.
It's definitely deceptive marketing. Aside from the provenance and the steel vs/ alloy frame differences, it comes down to the asking price of a P1.
A P1 should never cost the same as a P38 in the same condition. That's just my opinion. I recently picked up a second P1 and a P4 (I like the differences). Excellent video!
Heck yeah, if someone is pricing a postwar P38 at a wartime P-38's price? That's definitely f'd up!
@@misha5670 I've seen that a few times.....sadly.
On the flip side, markings are very different on the generations. So then it comes down to pictures being accurate to the product or not. @@rabbitholereviews
When I got mine, quite a few years back, it was made in 1958. Excellent shape. Excellent video again…
I have a cyq P.38 produced in 1944, and a P 38 / II manufactured in 1969. I've always thought any of them made after WWII were P1s or PIIs depending on the year made. I still call both of mine P38s although I'm aware of the difference. It's kinda like the magazine verses clip discussion that comes up from time to time, I know what people are talking about without the need to correct someone. These P 38s are fascinating pistols any way you call them. Love your videos and your in depth knowledge on the P 38. Thanks.
Thanks Misha That Was a Good Topic 😀😊😎
Beretta 92 series were heavily based off of these P38s.
Hiii, ive just discovered your chanel and love it 🙏🏻⚔️ One question please; i have just bought a P38,and after much research, it is the *Only* P38 ive come across where the *Serial number is on the Right hand side of the slider* ,any chance yiu know why this might be ? Thank you
Thanks for the video. Can one use Remington 9mm Subsonic ammo in the P38 pistols?
I noticed that on a couple sites. At first i thought "there's no way there's p38's that cheap". Then I noticed the aluminum frame and (more) modern plastic grip. Decent price for a p1 I guess, but certainly not p38's
The P5 was the most attractive and evolved but updating the P5 with a stack and a half or double stack mag would be cool. Maybe redesign it around the P99, PPQ, PDP magazine complete with long paddle mag release? A most elegant carry gun.
So basically, the Walther P88/P88c.
@@misha5670 No, Those looked like a mash up of sig, beretta and a touch of Hi-Power in the slide cuts. Made to meet a price point and be like everyone else with a tilt lock design. The P5 was still a unique beauty.
Could You Do a Video on Norinco Clone Guns Misha Quality Reliability And History 😀😎 Thank You In Advance
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My wartime gun is quite accurate, I was surprised!
Would you please leave your pistol collection there to me in your will. I promise I'll take very good care of them... 😁