My P4 is Manurhin made. It has a single screw adjustable rear sight. It has a polished blue slide. No grind oval on the slide. “Wings” at the end of the slide. When I got it I contacted Peter J. Kokalis to get information, as he was a noted P38 collector. He told me that there was a short leather holster made for it. Very rare. He told me that the P4 Manurhin was the final contract for this pistol, of around 500 units. Around half were used by border guards or rail police, half stored away. The used ones were supposedly supplied to the Palestinian Authority Police Force in one of those UN deals to support them, the rest were imported to the US as surplus. Mine has a “Miami Fla.” import mark and was in unfired condition. Came in a brown Walther box with target and 2 mags. Some came with the unique stubby holster, but mine did not. IO sold the holsters separately for awhile, and now they might be very valuable. Mine is a great shooter! Great video.
I had read previously, that in the commercial market there were high grade pistols with steel frames. I've never seen one, but in one catalog it commanded a price several times higher than the standard model in the 80s. I don't know if these were ornate presentation pieces or what. I've never seen one, but I've kept an eye out for one for a couple decades now. I get the feeling they were not common. Update: I don't know why I hadn't searched online before, but it certainly does appear that some of the high grade/presentation P-38s had a steel frame. The price tags I found were robust.
You are correct about lack of information about these pistols. You nailed it as usual. I have always seen either conflicting information or bits and pieces about post war p1 variants. It seems Simpsons Ltd. comes and goes with availability. Never run across anything in my neck of the woods except a couple clapped out nazi variants. Thanks again for all your help maybe one day I'll stumble upon one, or become motivated to pursue one from afar.
Honestly, most all of these I've picked up local or at least in FTF deals. The only one i think i bought online was the P38K? Both P1s were definitely local and the P4 i bought while on vacation11 years ago.
Over the last couple of years I have had 3 come in to my shop. 7/77, 11/81 and the one I got in a week or so ago 12/62. The first ones I got were from an auction. The last one was from CAI. As of this post they still have some in all 3 conditions (21 May 2023) The P-38/P1 were easy to disassemble and re-assemble. The hardest part was the loaded chamber indicator, it was a bit of a bother to get back in the weapon.
I bought a P38 from not long ago and I was surprised at how light it actually was. Stamp on it says it's born 11/61 and everything is matching, mag included. I'd love to hear a Misha deep dive on a P88 though🙃
I’m fortunate to have an unissued ‘85 P1. It has a very light single action trigger with a short audible reset. It does possess the large block sights that you mention. I think they make for pretty quick sight acquisition. Thanks for the information.
@@misha5670 The finish on slide and barrel look very similar to your ‘79. The frame is phosphated and I thought the barrel was as well but on close inspection it might be a matte blue. The magazine is phosphated as well. (I am cmillerdvm1 just different account). Again thanks for the information. Very nice video.
Wow That Was Mind Blowing The Knowledge You Have And Your Examples Are Amazing Misha 😀🔥🔥😊😊 Thank You Love These Long Detailed Videos I Bet After Disassembling And Reassembling All Those Pistols You Could Do It “Blindfolded” Misha 😎Lol
Was wanting to buy one , they have a post war one on gun broker they say was made in the late 60s early 70s Has waffen SS grips on it , looks nice and mint or am I better off getting a war time one ?
I totally loved your video and actually learned a few things about my newly acquired P 38 and it’s quickly becoming my favorite pistol. I would really like to know more about the small stampings that they put on the receivers and slides.
Bought a Portuguese Police P38 (7/61 stamped on slide) last year. Cool gun, I like collecting Portuguese pistols & rifles. Mishaco, I need help on something. During shooting (4+ rounds) the takedown lever (barrel retaining latch) starts to work it’s way out & down. There’s some wear on leading edge of the lever. Have you ever seen or heard of this issue? I’m thinking of sending to a Gunsmith or ordering a new takedown lever, lever plunger & spring, & new recoil springs from “Numrich Corp” and replacing them myself. To see if it fixes it. I’m thinking the recoil springs are worn out causing the slide to slam hard during ejection & vibrating the takedown lever. Do you know any good P38 Gunsmithing? Thanks for a very informative video.
I’ve always thought the P38K to be an ugly duckling. I like the aesthetics of the P5 although I’ve never shot one. What do you all think of P5 prices these days?
Was there a P-5 for the Dutch Border Police? I remember when I was in the Army stationed in Germany back in 1987 when I crossed over the border on a train from Germany to Arnhem Holland. The Dutch police would check passports and ask questions. I noticed that they also carried a very shortened barreled P-38s with open top black holsters. What was that variant? Was that the P-5? I met a Dutch Border Policeman on vacation here in Vegas many years ago and told me that they did carry the P-5. Did the P-5 exist?
Not a video if one wants to see how to properly disassemble and reassemble piece. The camera doesn't leave his right hand and is bias to his post WW2 POS.
My P4 is Manurhin made. It has a single screw adjustable rear sight. It has a polished blue slide. No grind oval on the slide. “Wings” at the end of the slide. When I got it I contacted Peter J. Kokalis to get information, as he was a noted P38 collector. He told me that there was a short leather holster made for it. Very rare. He told me that the P4 Manurhin was the final contract for this pistol, of around 500 units. Around half were used by border guards or rail police, half stored away. The used ones were supposedly supplied to the Palestinian Authority Police Force in one of those UN deals to support them, the rest were imported to the US as surplus. Mine has a “Miami Fla.” import mark and was in unfired condition. Came in a brown Walther box with target and 2 mags. Some came with the unique stubby holster, but mine did not. IO sold the holsters separately for awhile, and now they might be very valuable. Mine is a great shooter! Great video.
This is a great video. Has never heard about a P4 model before. I really appreciated it.
I had read previously, that in the commercial market there were high grade pistols with steel frames. I've never seen one, but in one catalog it commanded a price several times higher than the standard model in the 80s. I don't know if these were ornate presentation pieces or what. I've never seen one, but I've kept an eye out for one for a couple decades now. I get the feeling they were not common. Update: I don't know why I hadn't searched online before, but it certainly does appear that some of the high grade/presentation P-38s had a steel frame. The price tags I found were robust.
You are correct about lack of information about these pistols. You nailed it as usual. I have always seen either conflicting information or bits and pieces about post war p1 variants. It seems Simpsons Ltd. comes and goes with availability. Never run across anything in my neck of the woods except a couple clapped out nazi variants. Thanks again for all your help maybe one day I'll stumble upon one, or become motivated to pursue one from afar.
Honestly, most all of these I've picked up local or at least in FTF deals. The only one i think i bought online was the P38K? Both P1s were definitely local and the P4 i bought while on vacation11 years ago.
Amazing video. I really love your deep dive into the subject on ur videos. Thank you
Over the last couple of years I have had 3 come in to my shop. 7/77, 11/81 and the one I got in a week or so ago 12/62. The first ones I got were from an auction. The last one was from CAI. As of this post they still have some in all 3 conditions (21 May 2023) The P-38/P1 were easy to disassemble and re-assemble. The hardest part was the loaded chamber indicator, it was a bit of a bother to get back in the weapon.
I bought a P38 from not long ago and I was surprised at how light it actually was. Stamp on it says it's born 11/61 and everything is matching, mag included. I'd love to hear a Misha deep dive on a P88 though🙃
Best collection ever in my opinion.
I’m fortunate to have an unissued ‘85 P1. It has a very light single action trigger with a short audible reset. It does possess the large block sights that you mention. I think they make for pretty quick sight acquisition. Thanks for the information.
What kind of metal finish is on the slide & barrel?
@@misha5670 The finish on slide and barrel look very similar to your ‘79. The frame is phosphated and I thought the barrel was as well but on close inspection it might be a matte blue. The magazine is phosphated as well. (I am cmillerdvm1 just different account). Again thanks for the information. Very nice video.
those camo holsters (unused) sold for 5e a piece some years ago. Magazines were 8e a piece :) good times
Wow That Was Mind Blowing The Knowledge You Have And Your Examples Are Amazing Misha 😀🔥🔥😊😊 Thank You Love These Long Detailed Videos I Bet After Disassembling And Reassembling All Those Pistols You Could Do It “Blindfolded” Misha 😎Lol
Good video as always brotha
thankk you
Was wanting to buy one , they have a post war one on gun broker they say was made in the late 60s early 70s Has waffen SS grips on it , looks nice and mint or am I better off getting a war time one ?
I totally loved your video and actually learned a few things about my newly acquired P 38 and it’s quickly becoming my favorite pistol.
I would really like to know more about the small stampings that they put on the receivers and slides.
Bought a Portuguese Police P38 (7/61 stamped on slide) last year. Cool gun, I like collecting Portuguese pistols & rifles. Mishaco, I need help on something. During shooting (4+ rounds) the takedown lever (barrel retaining latch) starts to work it’s way out & down. There’s some wear on leading edge of the lever. Have you ever seen or heard of this issue? I’m thinking of sending to a Gunsmith or ordering a new takedown lever, lever plunger & spring, & new recoil springs from “Numrich Corp” and replacing them myself. To see if it fixes it. I’m thinking the recoil springs are worn out causing the slide to slam hard during ejection & vibrating the takedown lever. Do you know any good P38 Gunsmithing? Thanks for a very informative video.
Swear to God, the gun community should get together and pay you some sort of professors salary for all of your scholarship
Great video!
The short barrel’d one (if..).
I’ve always thought the P38K to be an ugly duckling. I like the aesthetics of the P5 although I’ve never shot one. What do you all think of P5 prices these days?
I'm afraid I've not kept up with P5 prices lately.
An iconic pistol everybody likes. I’m betting at some point Walther will make them again.
You could be right. Unlike say the C96 or Luger, the P38/P1 lends itself pretty well for modern manufacturing techniques.
I can't see Walther ever bringing the P38 back.
What's your opinion on wasr akm 9mm do current wasrs still use old mil spec trunnions?
Was there a P-5 for the Dutch Border Police? I remember when I was in the Army stationed in Germany back in 1987 when I crossed over the border on a train from Germany to Arnhem Holland. The Dutch police would check passports and ask questions. I noticed that they also carried a very shortened barreled P-38s with open top black holsters. What was that variant? Was that the P-5? I met a Dutch Border Policeman on vacation here in Vegas many years ago and told me that they did carry the P-5. Did the P-5 exist?
Yes, the Dutchh issued the P5.
@@misha5670 Thanks! I knew what I had seen.
mine is a 1977 marked one
Hey Misha,
Does the polish military use WBP or Radom???
FB-Radom has always made their AKs.
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they are classic 😄
What would you say the P4 is worth these days?
I honestly haven't a clue. When it came to me, it was around $500
6.5 ounces = 185 grams
A whole lot of "not going to cover that this time" going on.
Not a video if one wants to see how to properly disassemble and reassemble piece. The camera doesn't leave his right hand and is bias to his post WW2 POS.
You don't have to pull the slide all the way back to disassemble the war time p38 also...get your facts straight sir.
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