I sit in the South Stand and I’m telling you most of us are well behind Ange. The players and the manager need our support more than ever. Let’s get behind them! COYS
@@jamescapon457 I sit in the West and for the most part we’re behind the players and manager but there’s a lot of frustration too. Ange needs to turn things around. We can’t keep using rebuild and an injury decimated squad as excuses. The weaknesses in the first team have been obvious for two seasons now. It’s his job to get results and he’s not doing it.
@@LisaPottinger What a croq of shit they are reasons not excuses. To get to step 10 you have to first go through steps 1-9 in that order. It started with Step 1 Ange being appointed as Manager. He will get the results but has to be supported from the hierarchy AND the fanbase. He has a winning philosophy.Churchill once said We will never Surrender! Spurs fans shouldnt give up either in the face of dire adversity COYS ANGE IN!!
I’m beginning to get really tired of all the pundits and commentators joking or talking down about how we play. Sure it doesn’t always work but if everyone played the exact same way football would be so boring. Yesterday was incredibly unfortunate as Liverpool are the last team we needed to face at the current time. We need more players, we need players back from injury. We need to fully support our team and our manager.
Yes, people are confused on why this club play this way while it’s clearly not working out for them. Their are some other clubs seems quite enjoy the way we play tho
Doesn't always work ?? I can't remember Spurs losing 8 league game b4 Christmas , and i've supported the club for 62 years . I don't think we suffered that , even in the relegation season
Omg are you serious. "Sure it doesn't always work but if everyone played the same way it would be boring". Playing ultra-attacking football with players injured against a top opponent is ridiculous. Digging in deep for one game and try to hit on the counter would be forgiven surely, but nope. No tactical flexibility and instead EVERYONE knows what we do and how to play against us.
I’m more Ange-in after yesterday. As Ange said give the backline we had vs fresh best team in the world right now. It can happen. I’m still happy the players went to get more being so far behind. It showed a real character.
It wasn't like that at the game. Liverpool slowed down. When it went to 3-5, Liverpool pushed on and scored a sixth with ease. I was there, it wasn't a contest from the first to the last minute. Liverpool were on a different level, and Spurs looked exhausted!
The immediate context of the Liverpool game is that Liverpool rested 8 starters who played against a young, inexperienced, and fatigued defense playing their 3rd game in a week. The medium term context is that Spurs have missed anywhere from 7-10 players over the past 2 months - absentees being doubly damning for Ange’s system that requires energy in every phase of a game. The long term context is that Spurs have overhauled their squad and made it drastically younger and it will take more than a season for things to click considering, for example, that two of their key players are 18 year olds. Ange is suffering a historic injury and absentee crisis that is hard to legislate for. He couldn’t predict that a player would get a 7 match ban for being racist or that his whole backline would be injured or that half of his front line would be unavailable for the first half of the season. There is, however, more than enough evidence to demonstrate that his system is devastatingly effective when players are fit and available. Moreover, taking the Spurs job at the time he did was damn near career suicide for Ange considering the absolute dumpster fire that the club was in post Conte. He took our club at our worst and not once has he disparaged the club like Conte did every fortnite. Ange is not blameless however. I am baffled by why he didn’t integrate Lo Celso into the squad and give him more minutes last season when Maddison was atrocious. I am confused as to why Skipp was never given a proper run in at the #6 position. I am utterly confused as to why we signed Dragusin, a slow player who is poor on the ball, considering that we sold Dier because he is… you guessed it, a slow player who is poor on the ball. I am surprised that Udogie plays as many minutes as he does considering that he returned from a very serious long term injury. I am surprised that we payed as much as we did for Brennan Johnson - not his quality, but his price tag. Considering his performances over preseason and the past few games, one really wonders why Djed Spence has been so significantly marginalized and left out of the Europa league squad. However, despite all this, the least that we can do as fans is repay the faith he showed to our club at our worst and support the guy through what appears to be a historic low.
I don't know how much Spurs fans will care about this but I think Ange has brought quite a lot of good will to the club from neutral fans. 'Spursy' as an idea is slowly changing. For years you were the team who lost through weakness, now you're the most rocknroll team in the league! "It's better to burn out than fade away" ... or maybe even "To dare is to do", if that your actual philosophy, Ange is your perfect manager. He lives that
We appreciate the compliment but this is part of the problem - other fans generally see us as a soft touch. Opposition managers love this manager but they don't have any fear of him nor his tactics.
@@tc-ou2zb Hmmm. I kinda get where you're coming from but at the same time, Spurs have been a soft touch for my entire lifetime and if you think opposition managers don't fear a team that's scored 39 goals in 17 games, you're crazy. Yes, you can be got at but you can also destroy teams. I personally believe this is the 1st time you've been feared in decades
He's definitely a Spurs manager in spirit, but that's not enough these days. I'm a rival fan & can honestly say I don't fear Spurs what so ever with this guy at the helm. In a one off match sure, one of the best attacking teams in the league, but over the course of a season? Nah. I'm thinking the Bournemouth manager is made for Spurs with every passing week now. There's serious Spurs at their pomp w/Poch vibes about Bournemouth this season - it feels natural.
I thought we actually played quite well given how depleted and overworked the players are, against the best in the land by a country mile atm... Played the full 90 minutes. Gray, Deki and Djed were great!
That Tottenham fan tone "hello everyone, Alasdair Gold here". I feel for Tottenham fans. As a Celtic fan and, as a result, an Ange fan, I really want Tottenham to do well. Hope they stick with him.
We are 18 months into a Major Rebuild!!!!! Liverpool is a settled side, and Tottenham is far from it. This Team is a Frankenstein of a Team with players from Poch, Mourinio, and Conte eras. Please Guys have patience, Daniel Levy break a habit of a lifetime, keep your finger off the Trigger when things get a bit awkward. Please fully back Ange in the January Market and the Summer We also need to remember that we have a Major injury crisis to deal with. We were always Lambs to the slaughter against Liverpool. We need to stay patient and hopefully get a few more ready-made players in through the door. especially a competent No,6
People are forgetting Liverpool have only conceded 3 goals in one other game this season (so far). We scored 3 goals against the best team in Europe and England right now (top of Champs League and Premier League). They had an almost full squad (except I think Konate) who are fit and fresh and on form. We had a makeshift defence with a RB as LB who has barely played recently, an 18 year old at CB who is a midfielder, our 3rd choice centre back and a knackered Porto - and Forster in goal who has barely played in the last few years. Yes, it would have been great to not concede 6 goals as that hurts, especially at home. BUT - there are a lot of positives to take from this game and season so far. COYS
I am 61 and have been going to Tottenham for longer than I care to remember. The last time we won the league I wasn't even a twinkle in my old man's eye! The best times I had supporting Tottenham were the 80's we had good players who won FA Cups, League Cups and Uefa Cups but were really never close to winning the league. Most of those cups that we used to win have been hoovered up by today's money teams who didn't win much at all back then (we all know who I am talking about) (that's where the impatience comes from and why Harry Kane remains trophy less). To win anything is doubly difficult due to resources available to some teams now. Also we have done the manager merry-go-round to no avail and frankly I am bored of that prospect and who is going to come in and make a difference anyway? That is not to say I think Ange is perfect there is no way we can continue like this and I do think he is going to have to reconsider the way we defend and game management particularly when we have a good lead because if he doesn't he will lose all the fans and his job. Cheers Ali.
Dreamer, you proud of that defending or that system, also we have done much the same with our missing players on the pitch. It will not work at this level, not now not ever. Ange will NOT change his system either.
Im definitely far more Ange In than I was before the Liverpool match. I know it may seem extremely unhinged considering the scoreline but the fact the guys didnt put their heads down after going down 2-0 and then 4-1 and 5-1 and were still trying to score goals until they got back to 5-3 shows me how much these guys believe in Ange and what hes trying to do. We've seen Spurs teams in just the recent past that were allegedly more defensively sound yhat would've crumbled the minute the first goal went in and it likely would've end 0-6 or 0-7 but they didnt give up and i think that should be commended and earn Ange a ton more credit
Would having romero and vdv back change the fact that we totally lost the game in midfield and the 2 at the back were constantly exposed through FB pushing so high? Sometimes you need to call a spade a spade. Ange has not managed this period very well
Exactly! 10 players out either injured,suspensions or illness. NO TEAM can function like this,no matter WHO they are yet hardly any pundits, commentator or journalists seem to acknowledge this. TBH WHO CARES?!! They don't like us,WE don't care #COYS
Ange needs to be extended. He will get us success. It's a perfect storm currently. That won't last forever and when we get our players back and reinforcements in the trade period over summer we will be a top 4 side. Mark my words.
The sample size is getting big. Since the initial unbeaten run in 2023, Spurs have had mid table form. Many of the worst results occurred outside of injury crises.
I think Ange is getting leeway from a significant percentage of fans due the trauma of going through the Mourinho, NES and Conte era. That style of unenjoyable football has been replaced with the opposite extreme of chaotic attacking football that is branded “The Spurs Way”. It is a feeling of (arguably desperate) hope that this heals the post Poch era wounds. The fear of losing that “Spurs way” and risking the sense that we could revert back to unenjoyable football is too much to handle!
Tightening up the defence when you have a makeshift, knackered back five, perhaps by throwing in a extra midfield defender, is just common sense not a betrayal of your principles.
Sorry Alasdair. It doesn’t sit right with me that you’re sitting here excusing a 6 goal battering. You say Archie Gray and Spence played well but they were part of conceding 6 goals and these defenders kept out City’s attack 4-0, put 5 past Soton and kept United out until Forster gave them 2 goals for free. Liverpool had 9 big chances and could (should) have scored more. It’s the system and Ange’s lack of rotation that has cost us. Why did he not rest Udogie/Porro for Spence before they got overplayed? For this game he should’ve subbed Udogie on much sooner and moved Spence to the right, probably started one of BJ/Werner and Bergvall in midfield, just to keep energy levels up. I’ve never seen so many excuses for a pathetic battering. When we’re conceding the same goal time after time, a long ball over the backline, do something about it! No, “it’s just who we are mate”. And why is the alternative to Angeball boring defensive play? It doesn’t have to be, how about being balanced and working on weak areas of the team? No, that would make too much sense. This club is rotten to the core, stop excusing it. This is the first time since Redknapp took over from Ramos we’ve been bottom table come Christmas. Full team or not, we haven’t been consistent since Chelsea (H) last season. Also, adapting play to suit the players available to your disposal is NOT abandoning your principles, it’s adapting to the current situation. When he knows Forster is nervous from the United game, tell him to make easy passes for the opening 20 minutes or so, not to make more risky passes that almost cost us goals because “that’s on me, mate”. It doesn’t have to be two extremes all the time.
Kulusevisky gave a very sincere and self confident answer in his short after match interview, when he was asked if he thinks Liverpool was too good for them. He said I don't think so and went on to clarify in very few sentences what happenened. Manchester City lost Rodri and they detriorated immediately and they had no shame in using the loss of Rodri as an excuse. When Liverpool lost Van Dyke they could not compete for the title. So it is shameful for Liverpool and particularly for the pundits to gloat over the win over a squad of 14 players only with half of them teen age or early twenties inexperienced players who have been playing only two days before a major match. It is true that the result will be in Spurs's record, but the fans know what happened.
Ange Playing ultra-attacking football with lots of players injured against a top opponent is ridiculous. Digging in deep for one game and try to hit on the counter would be forgiven surely, but nope. No tactical flexibility and instead EVERYONE knows what we do and how to play against us.
You think our back line would hold up parking the bus? They’d still score 3-4 and it’d be a boring frustrating grind that everyone would have hated, even the pro Ange folks. The haters will hate no matter what he does
@j24ish erm... No. Tactical flexibility is not the same as parking the bus. Utilising the players at your disposal to the best of THEIR ability, against the opposition you face is what Ange needs to do. Slow the game down, frustrate the opponent, break on them quickly. Ange does none of that and that's why we've lost 8 games already.
What mentality? Please tell me what the mentality was when we... Gave up 2-0 leads to Brighton and Chelsea and lost. Took 1 point from games against Ipswich, palace and Leicester. Lost 8 games out of 17. What's this mentality you speak of? I don't see it
@masterful Sticking to our guns under pressure and getting two goals back against liverpool in a tough situation and not letting their heads drop is a good example, playing our football even when armchair “tacticians” talk nonsense. Arteta arguably lost the league title last season by buckling under pressure to play defensive against city and not go out and win the game. True consistency can only naturally be achieved by repetition, and we have plenty of proof our football can win us big games.
@masterful if people could understand this mentality they would be better off in most aspects of life, not just football. A little bit of self belief can do a lot.
@@bb5979 actually there is much more proof thag we can't win big games. We have won 2 out of 9 against the top 10 this season and last season was pretty poor as well
@@bb5979 what self belief? Cool we scored a couple of goals. And lost the game by 3 goals. We capitulated against Chelsea and Brighton. We lost to 2 relegation strugglers. We haven't beaten anyone decent when we played them in the europa. Where was this amazing self belief trait then?
Hi. Strikes me that it was a perfect storm. Liverpool touched the ball and it turned to gold (LOL) every thing they did worked, Spurs were tired and missing 10 members of the squad. Spence has grown well, Gray is becoming a leader and Deki has become a go to player.
Hi Ali, long term listener appreciate your content and reporting. However, I'm surprised how little you and your written press media colleagues are reluctant to challenge Ange on his lack of tactical flexibility. Of course we are decimated by injury but does that absolve Ange from insisting that we continue to play the high line and exposing young Archie and Radu so badly? The insistence to play this way when clearly he doesn't have the players to is on him. Why was he not questioned on why he started the same team? Was Johndon not fit enough to start for Son? Yet you and your colleagues and much of the fan base continue to give him a pass. Just because Levy has labelled it a 'project' doesn't mean Ange is the right man to lead it. What evidence do you have that he is the right man??
@carygson I do listen to every press conference and he certainly was not asked those questions yesterday. He has been asked 'generally' about his inability to change tactics my points were more 'specific'...
Thanks, Alasdair. Disappointing as it was, I appreciate that the team did not give up. Memories of Spurs throwing in the towel are still fresh and I give the team credit that they didn’t resort to that behavior. I knew it would be a tough match in light of so many injuries and over playing. I also worried about Forster not regaining his confidence. Hope he can shake it off. And, yes, we need to win against Forest. It’s also good to see the players being supportive of Ange and showing a more “team-like” attitude. I remain supportive of Ange.
People support Ange because we've been amazing when everything clicks. There are enough positives to believe it's worth sticking this through for the next 18 months and see what happens. Ironically I feel that Spurs have sorted out a lot of the football side of the club and are trying to do the right things behind the scenes now. The problem was that we weren't doing that for 6/7 years and we are still paying the price for it now
We were dead , we haven't been able to change players in weeks and if you swap the managers slot would struggle as well , we have got rid of over 20 players as well Liverpool have had the same team for years and are on a different level
yes so why not just realise we cant play againts liverpool right now the way we want so lets keep tight stop them scoring ,play counter attacking try to get a goal and keep tight and late on liverpool vulnerable pushing up if is a big word i know but at least give our self a chance
Scoring 3 against Liverpool is a positive. We had our second string center back and an 18 year old in defense. With a World Cup winner and the fastest player in premier league history in the back, we could create a perfect marriage. I have so much hope that players will come back and create a flowing system
The performances were inconsistent even with Romero and VDV as our CB. Remember when they were both injured and booked last season after November, and how we all said if those two are back we will march on until may? What happened? bottled 4th place because of inconsistrency. Its like this fanbase is trying to cling on so hard because they know this is dross, but dont want to look at the cold hard reality.
@ the cold hard reality is that we have an entire starting line up out with injury. VDV and Romero aren’t perfect but they would give us options to use all of our players and fully rotate. We didn’t have the option to rotate last season due to a thin squad, but we have more players this season who can put in a shift. We just need them back from injuries and focus on rotation and getting the right minutes
These fans are entitled with nothing to be entitled about. He is playing fantastic entertaining football he has 8 players missing. He's been there 17 months it took Ferguson 42 months to win a trophy. It takes time losing 6-3 is better than losing 3-0. He will get this right football needs to be exciting not boring. He's a top man and manager. Real Madrid 60s Holland 70s still talked about today
@@adammacfarlane9351of course we want our club to win, but these are very difficult situations for us. The carabao cup is a different story since most of our players will be back then. But, even then we’ll be big time underdogs.
Liverpool could’ve scored tbf. Once again we were so wide open and susceptible to the same ball over the top. We would’ve still been smashed with all our defenders back.
It really is this simple. We have been calling for a direction in this club. Now we have one. People with any sense know this is going to be like a 3 year plan before we are anywhere near finished. Poch took 2 years to be anywhere near title challenges 3 years to be a very good team. The turn over of players is mental. Saying that. People like son and biss need to be sold.
Greetings from Sydney. When it comes to issues with the decimated Spurs team, the pundits are looking looking, mostly, in the wrong direction. The front five are exhausted. In Ange's system (Spurs, Celtic, Yokohama) the team defends from the front. The front five are the key to defending. Son, Kulu, Solanke, Maddison and Sarr are spent. Because there is no front five depth on the bench, they have had to play game after game. I'd love to see statistics on how many minutes the starting front five tonight have played across all games since the Man City win. I bet it's significantly higher than for LFC's front five or ManU from Thursday night. No Odobert, Moore, Richarlison & Bentancur, and a lack of Premier League ready transfers over the summer has left the squad running on fumes. I'm surprised they played as well as they did under the circumstances.
The amount of arm chair managers in comments is starting to get boring. Why don’t you trying actually supporting your club? As a Spurs fan I don’t mind stating we have one of the most entitled fan bases in the league, who feel they have some “right” to trophies! Grow up and actually support your club!
Which fool actually thought we had a chance yesterday? I’d rather we have a bloody crack and go down swinging than waste everyone’s time and lose a pathetic 2-0. Bravo Ange
I'm %100 Angeball in. I like a high line & high scoring Tottenham Hotspur. (Edge of the seat football) The injuries can be mitigated with better off-field management. What we need is depth in the playing squad (put your money where your mouth is Levy).
Reflected on yesterday a bit more. We could have played that full strength Liverpool side and easily lost 0-3. Instead we went for them. 1-2 at halftime was readily achievable. So to me, we need to tighten defensively but not throw out our daring style...To Dare is To Do ... very proud of the team yesterday COYS
Just wanted to say I personally truly value the dedication and insightful reporting you do covering this crazy (at times) club we support. Your work provides all of us with valuable information and (imo) the only journalists that I enjoy reading and listening to on all things Tottenham. Wishing you and your family an amazing Christmas Mr Gold and keep up the great work.
Thanks, Ali. I have just grown to accept that many of our fans can’t seem to be happy unless they’re complaining or upset about something. Losses are treated as complete disasters, wins are treated with cautionary tales of what went wrong. I’m still all in with Ange. We just need to get through this rough patch and get some of our starters back. I noticed Liverpool were still pressing and trying to score til the end, but, no pundit complained about them not managing the game which helped us get 3 goals. Spurs are the only team bashed about this. Ali, don’t waste your time talking about our injuries, 18yr old CB, backup GK, tired players etc. because I tried and our fans hammered me about making excuses, basically we should be winning every single game no matter what. I really believe this manager can get us where we need to be if we can show some freaking patience. It’s the 2nd season of a long, overdue rebuild for crying out loud. Thanks again, Ali. We must stay the course with this manager and continue our rebuild. COYS!
Whatever you think of Ange the football is exciting and at times exhilarating and way better than anything under Sherwood, Jose, Nuno, Mason, Conte, Chelini. When we were 5-1 o down no one left the stadium and still there at 6-3. That says a lot. We have to give him more time before we make a full analysis. Last year at the 2 periods where we were at full strength we won loads. We are still in every competition!
My sentiments too, it’s exciting to watch spurs under Angeball, and I will continue to enjoy watching them, win or lose. I remember when premier league was very defensive and very boring, 90 minutes nil all were common and boring as bat shit, what we have now is much better.
I've supported spurs since 1958 I've seen great great times and seen worst ,this present situation has not discouraged me one bit if anything bothers me its the fans that go from game to game up and down none of us enjoy these bad times but lets not waiver in our support for our club and realise the big gulf in the two sides that took to the field Sunday .
I'm standing with Ange here - the players love playing for him and that's the key barometer for me. Once the backline injuries are healed, we will see more stability in our defending and results. It's clear the team needs another CB for rotation, unless Dorrington is to come good sooner than later. Phillips and Vuskovich are not ready to start in the prem yet. Archie Gray has been great considering what Ange has asked of him but we really need him for RB rotation with Porro, who has already played over 1800 minutes this season. This style demands depth; time to open the checkbook, Daniel.
Unfortunately nothing will change until levy goes.. He’s meant to be having an interview with Simon Jordan released soon. Hopefully saying he’ll be gone… Sooner the better.. Rotten to the core.. 20 years of failure. Last year moaning about not enough games,now it’s too many.. Ffs Levy out
Good points about Conte and Mourinho. They were 'win at all costs' managers, and they didn't win. They did not have a vision. Ange has a vision for sure. The defensive structure has to change - you are right!. Can any player be an excellent attacker and a great defender? Can the human body do it without injury? Why, in the name of Beelzebub, can we spend many millions of dollars, buy 14 players that Ange wants, and still not have enough players. How do Liverpool do it? Can we not learn from them? There must be a way to do it. Liverpool, apparently have enough fit people to run two high quality teams, one for the Cup and another for the League? How do they do it? Are they Supermen? WHY DON'T WE LEARN FROM OTHER TEAMS AND STOP BEING SO STUBBORN!
Part of the problem is that the new stadium hasn’t been the thing to elevate the club to the next level as promised. Yes the record transfer fee is now bigger than 2017 when the left WHL, and levy might argue that’s progress as we now spend more than then. But on the field it’s not leading anywhere.
Totally agree with your analysis, Ali. I think the majority of clear thinking, rational fans are also on the Ange train because he embodies our mantra, To dare is to do… We just need the rest of the fans to believe it. Merry Christmas and keep up the great work, Ali.
Sorry but no one is winning anything by completely ignoring defending and just trying to outscore the opposition. Ozzie Ardieles got laughed out of town for trying it. We are 11th....I'll say that again, we are 11th. Ange ball is naïve in the extreme and I am genuinely baffled why fans are still backing a manager and system that doesn't have a chance in hell of working in the PL.
Great managers of the past like Sir Alex changed his tactics based on the circumstances. His team was deadly on the counter. Why does Ange think he invented something new? Managers who've tried the same thing he's doing have failed, too.
Injuries are just an excuse when you get injuries it’s the perfect time to show your managerial abilities show that you can adapt this manager does not play to the strengths of the team his ego is getting in the way
Ally some of the fans were briefly and intermittently singing his name in a half hearted way there wasn't any resounding support for him across the stadium. I think you are seriously fooling yourself if you believe otherwise as it was a pretty apathetic atmosphere at the ground yesterday. The unquestioning support for him by some sections of the fanbase is beginning to sound more cultist in it's nature than anything based on any consistent evidence (I am ambiguous about him tbh and not saying he should be sacked either). I get all the excuses about the injuries but we had this all last season around the same time, and when all the players came back after Christmas (basically the same set of players and defenders as we have this season) we were terrible until the end of the season anyway. And those type of poor performances have persisted despite the ocassional glimpses of brilliance this season. As for the manager complaining about having to answer the same old questons maybe if he didn't keep on making the same old mistakes he wouldn't keep getting asked them.
I disagree, the support for Ange was no doubt there. The younger fans want Ange out as they don't see the bigger picture, the style of play is exciting and everything real Spurs fans want, it's the quality of signing that Levy brings in that needs to be questioned. Give Ange the right quality and we will be a force to reckon with. The sooner Levy and ENIC get out of this club the better. Levy doesn't want players sitting on the bench earning massive wages, therefore our squad will never be good enough to win anything. You have to have a squad, where you have two players for each position that are equally as good as each other, and of a good enough quality. 24 years of doing it Levy's way doesn't work. Levy & ENIC OUT.
@@Borgie31 do u know where we were before Levy took over? That's the problem with fans u don't know your history. Levy has been amazing for Spurs we were relegation candidates before he took over. But yeah he doesn't waist 400m on Osimen so waaaaa eniv out lol u dweeb shows how immature and dense you are. Ange is the problem not Levy. When we had Poch who thanked Levy when we were going to the champions league final? No one. But he was responsible for that.
That just wasn't the case though. It was loudly sung a number of times. He was asked about it in the press conference because of that, as we could all hear it in the south stand. With an opposing view perhaps that influenced the way you heard it.
@@AlasdairGoldjournalist Ally I was there as well and it did surprise me that his name was being sung despite what was happening on the pitch. It didn't sound particularly loud down the Paxton but it was being sung as you say albeit briefly. I just think there was just a lot of apathy from the fans yesterday about the team. I want him to succeed and have seen some wonderful football at times. But I find it tough to see how it will happen longterm after watching us concede 13 goals in the last 3 home games let alone how we have played at times with a full squad to pick from, which let's face it has been more the norm than the great football. And how do you think his comments about missing the most of his defense will go do with 3 of the current back 4 who will be playing on Boxing Day? They just heard him throw them under a bus. Maybe if he came up with a tactical plan to help them out we wouldn't be seeing such an apalling set of recent results. Ps I am not being entertained either please pass that on to him.
Taking into account the context, I was actually encouraged by Spurs display. Application and effort to the final whistle. As far as the fans go, those calling for AP's sacking (including click-grabbing podcasters and sensationalist media simpletons like O'Hara) tells us less about Postecoglou and much more about these individual's personal mentality - ability to see the big picture, their emotional regulation (or disregulation), rationale, ability to tolerate ambiguity etc. Hopefully this screamy minority are ignored.
If Postecoglou believes what he says, it appears a key part of his approach is playing the same way in all situations. That would mean ignoring score, time remaining, and how the other side is adjusting to Spurs. It also implies you play the same way if the opponent is Liverpool or Southampton. That's fairly radical and it is getting glossed over. The assumption here focused on what is being built and how Spurs will play after the injured players return. But the question will remain, is such an unusual approach viable? Is the focus more on entertainment than results? If someone told you there was no gravity and it was safe to jump out a building you wouldn't because you know there are consequences. Taking Postecoglou at his word, isn't he really saying that football gravity (the minimum things any reasonable coach must do and account for) doesn't exist? Do some due diligence and ask people who are in the profession if this can work, or at least look at what the ones who have commented are saying. Blind Faith was a fine English band, but a terrible way to look at a football system.
While all social media can have bad actors, I think the split between X and Bluesky is that a good chunk of new Spurs related users came to Bluesky to escape a lot of the dialogue that happens there. Overall, as it stands now, while we can all have different opinions, it feels more civil on Bluesky (also doesn’t hurt that it open sources their moderation tools). Also it does feel like the crowd there might be a bit older or at least has interests outside of football/soccer and doesn’t mind talking about that from time to time.
I’m fully behind Ange. On the one hand, the club cannot keep thinking it’s always the manager that is the issue, and on the other, the torture of going through Groundhog Day every time one gets sacked has really worn me down to a point I don’t think I could do it again. Is Ange the guy to bring Pep levels of success? Probably not. Does his football bring me joy and does it allow us to, on our day, win a game of football against nearly everyone? Yeah. For that alone, I think he can get us a trophy. The main thing is that he is likeable, as have all good spurs managers been, and that his football always encourages the players to give it a go. People have short memories of just how bad Jose and Conteball was
Why compare Ange to the dire, turgid ball under the Italians. That shouldn’t be the benchmark for our club! We need to aspire to bigger and better things and deliver!
Exactly, fans have such short memories, or fonder memories than the reality. We were a team that didn't know how to score after Poch was sacked and people somehow forget that. Jose and Conte style was so negative and boring to watch
Injuries or not we're already well on course to lose 15 league games or more for the first time since 08/09. Ange rushed back VDV and Romero when they were almost back, making the injury crisis worse. Even when both of them and Vicario were fit we were having poor performances and results. He's not going to change anything tactically and unfortunately it's never going to work in the prem, as much as I'd like it to.
Ange didn't rush anyone back. Players have to get the okay from the Physio and Clubs Doctor. That must happen for insurance purposes, if nothing else. Blame the Medical depth.
Thanks for your thoughts and efforts all year Ali, you have been great. One thing.... Those who are interested in social media can experience it first-hand...those who aren't interested in social media don't want to experience it's reactionary silliness second hand either .... even from your good self.
I'm Ange out . Given the amount of injuries you have to be pragmatic until you can field a full strength squad. Ange laments he can't rotate but the fact is he never did when he had the chance . Never played Spence , refuses to play Lucas , will can't get a sniff when it's so obvious that solanke looks knackered. Anges game management is abysmal . The sooner this fraud leaves the better even with a full strength squad I don't think Ange will win anything
@@matthewmcweeney2091 true but he absolutely deserves to play more . The lad made a mistake but I think he can rest solanke a little more and give Will some more minutes. But he just won't . Against Bournemouth he came with 2 mins left . Just shocking
Results not good, the system is highly dependant on competent on-it defenders, Liverpool are a world class established team: losing is not a surprise. I'd much rather lose 3-6 than 0-3 in a turged horrible game. Get a good squad, solid defence & we will fly! COY Ange!
I feel almost completely alone in this, but I did genuinely enjoy that game despite it being a pretty big loss... I didn't have great expectations, which helps a lot! 😂 Obviously at 1-5 it's a horrible feeling, but when we pulled it back to 2-5 and 3-5 it's not unrealistic to believe we could score one or two more. Looking where we were a few years ago and the current state of the squad, that's progress in and of itself in my opinion! Liverpool are just so class, have loads of depth and punish small mistakes. They are the benchmark for us to be honest! Give it some time to develop the squad and I honestly see no reason why we can't compete with them eventually, but right now they are on another level to pretty much everyone else in world football generally IMO.
Love your work as a Spurs journalist Ali but please don’t waste a question by asking Ange whether he has any regrets this season. It’s just not interesting to readers and he’s not going to give you a decent answer. I think most fans would much rather hear about how he sees Gray and Bergvall developing (whether Gray could end up as a CB, whether Bergvall is a 6, an 8, or a 10); and what he’s doing to stop teams from isolating Dragusin in possession & to improve his general in-possession play
Tottenham Fans are the worst.. What Devine right do you have to win something. Your team doesn’t win anything. So STFU support your team through thick and thin and just maybe long enough for a manager to do something. The Fans are the problem. Not the board, not the managers, no the players. The fickle fanbase with no patience, with an inability to support or follow through are the PROBLEM!!
I'm a bit tired of hearing that this guy "Has a clear vision for the club" that fact is, it's now Christmas and we are 11th in the table. There is no excuse on the planet which makes conceding 6 goals at home ok.
Zabarnyi and Huijsen are 22 and 19. They've kept clean sheets against Spurs, United, City and Arsenal. They dont have better FBs alongside them that Spurs have. Is Iroala putting them in better situations to succeed, does he have better tactics?
Forster continued to suggest he got injured against MU, with exaggerated use of his feet and difficulty getting into a crouching position. If that's true then it raises the question of: are Austin and Whiteman so poor they still can't be brought on in an emergency?
Prior to yesterday, Newcastle were the only team to put three past Liverpool in any competition this season. Yes, we conceded six, but Djed and Archie and Radu were all immense, Deki was unplayable, Big Dom was dogged; even Biss and Pape were pretty decent, but what could they do against the continuous balls over the top? What could our boys, as knackered as they were, do against the gegenpressing of fitter, sharper, fully rested players? Nothing, which is why our passes were often anticipated and intercepted, and one-on-one duels were lost all over the pitch. Back in January 2021, Liverpool came and tonked us 3-1. The next day I was asked at work what I'd thought of the game. I replied, "It was like watching Germany invade Poland." Yesterday, I got that feeling all over again, except that instead of circling the wagons as under Jose, we struck back even when it was obvious that all was lost. That is what the fans in the stadium were cheering.
Happy Holidays Ali! Thanks for all the videos this year. I feel like everyone is knackered, that on top of injuries hasn't helped. Still fully behind Ange.
I understand what you are saying about the thrown together defence. However if you have that to deal with surely adjust your team for that game ? Maybe try slightly different tatics for that game .. yes you might want to play " your way " but come on if you cant adjust for a few games is stupid .
100%. Don't have the personnel? Adjust the tactics. Remaining players are exhausted from the current schedule? Adjust the tactics. Ange let the team get whipped. We might have still lost but we play Forest away in three days. Adjust the tactics.
I think he doesn't seem to see that he doesn't have to stop training his beliefs and style, but for odd games when the personal isn't right for the game then just adjust your tactics a little , Liverpool would not of expected a different style from us , we might of even caught them unaware . It comes across as quite arrogant to the situation , I like Ange he just needs to be able to adjust to the squad availability.
The lack of a DM who would hold their position was obvious. Szoboszlai killed us, because we failed to cut out balls bypassing midfield. Still giving the ball away far too much. Particularly Bissouma, and Sarr. Sonny seems to have lost a yard. Still brave in defeat.
Honest to God, I'd rather lose 6-3 than 2-1 in stoppage time after being pinned in our end for 90 minutes. Bring in someone to improve our defense maybe, but that wAs a tired team playing a team firing on all cylinders.
Sorry Alastair - As a football reporter you are missing some essential points. The criticism is not about playing a different way. It's about periods of game management. Spurs have just got back into the game. So you manage it so the coach can talk to the players about being one goal behind instead we'd lost the game when Spurs went 3-1 down. That goal was largely caused by Djed Spence trying to press Trent 40 yards away from the area so Trent just lifted the ball over and Djed is neutralised. Also, recently we've seen teams like Chelsea, Fulham and Liverpool that are so well coached. What stood out was every Liverpool player had a player to pass to whereas we had no out balls. So often we went down the flanks and Dejan and/or Son or Djed were surrounded by three Liverpool players. We played as individuals not as a team. That is the coaching not the players. We paid big money for some of these young players. If a hypothetical Alex Ferguson had such a depleted team would he have been bold and used the kids? He won the League with kids in 1995 - 1996. Fans loved Poch. His teams did not score as may goals as Ange but the defence was so much better. Here's a stat. Poch reached 67 games on 1st October 2015. His team had scored 105 and conceded 78 and lost 18. Everyone loved Poch's football. Ange' team, after Sunday has scored 134 but conceded 101 and lost 22. This is not JUST about the current injuries. This is about the coaching and the methodology and an experienced journalist like you is not helping fans when they read or listen to you by not looking at the bigger picture and accepting the line that this is a recent problem.
I don’t think we should get rid of Ange but I think Alistair Gold is a biased judge of our managerial situation. He will never speak negatively of Ange for professional reasons. Even when Conte’s reign became clearly untenable, Ali would not put his professional relationship with the club at risk and speak what was clear for all to see.
"a right back playing at left back in second ever premier league start... an over user, over loaded right back who just looks like he's running on empty.." There is a solution to both of these problems, and that lies squarely on the manager who refused to give Spence minutes despite how good he has looked every time he's been on the pitch. I don't mind the loss to Liverpool, they are clearly the better side, but to absolve the manager of all blame for our current predicament is a bit much. He hasn't utilized his squad and rushing both our starting CB back was asking for disaster.
I think, Ali, that leeway wasn’t given to Jose or Conte because they generally acted like they were too good for the club, and with their turgid style it couldn’t work.
Ange is using injuries as an excuse. Injuries that his style of play is probably causing, and that the club should be able to cope with as it should be able to provide a quality squad.
We now live in a world where people have short attention spans. They want (fairly) instant gratification.The Tottenham board have been rather like that too. If Fergie had started his managerial career in this decade's febrile environment he would not have survived more than two years. The same goes for Wenger. Ange has my sympathy. During Conte's reign there was the fan clamour, 'We want our Tottenham back!' Well Ange has delivered on that front and I think this is why there is still strong support for Ange in some quarters. He deserves the squad to be strengthened again in January and the summer. If by next Christmas we are in the bottom half of the table then perhaps I'll change my mind. Thanks for your ongoing dedicated coverage, it is appreciated.
I sit in the South Stand and I’m telling you most of us are well behind Ange.
The players and the manager need our support more than ever. Let’s get behind them! COYS
@@jamescapon457 I sit in the West and for the most part we’re behind the players and manager but there’s a lot of frustration too. Ange needs to turn things around. We can’t keep using rebuild and an injury decimated squad as excuses. The weaknesses in the first team have been obvious for two seasons now. It’s his job to get results and he’s not doing it.
@@LisaPottinger What a croq of shit they are reasons not excuses. To get to step 10 you have to first go through steps 1-9 in that order. It started with Step 1 Ange being appointed as Manager. He will get the results but has to be supported from the hierarchy AND the fanbase. He has a winning philosophy.Churchill once said We will never Surrender! Spurs fans shouldnt give up either in the face of dire adversity COYS ANGE IN!!
I’m beginning to get really tired of all the pundits and commentators joking or talking down about how we play. Sure it doesn’t always work but if everyone played the exact same way football would be so boring. Yesterday was incredibly unfortunate as Liverpool are the last team we needed to face at the current time. We need more players, we need players back from injury. We need to fully support our team and our manager.
Don’t think that’s what they were saying .
Yes, people are confused on why this club play this way while it’s clearly not working out for them. Their are some other clubs seems quite enjoy the way we play tho
Doesn't always work ?? I can't remember Spurs losing 8 league game b4 Christmas , and i've supported the club for 62 years . I don't think we suffered that , even in the relegation season
Omg are you serious.
"Sure it doesn't always work but if everyone played the same way it would be boring".
Playing ultra-attacking football with players injured against a top opponent is ridiculous.
Digging in deep for one game and try to hit on the counter would be forgiven surely, but nope.
No tactical flexibility and instead EVERYONE knows what we do and how to play against us.
Unfortunate? I don’t think scoring 6 goals was luck mate 😂
The old concede 6 at home to give them a false sense of security going into the League Cup semifinal trick. We've got em right where we want them 😂.
And levy a little kick
I’m more Ange-in after yesterday. As Ange said give the backline we had vs fresh best team in the world right now. It can happen. I’m still happy the players went to get more being so far behind. It showed a real character.
It wasn't like that at the game. Liverpool slowed down. When it went to 3-5, Liverpool pushed on and scored a sixth with ease.
I was there, it wasn't a contest from the first to the last minute.
Liverpool were on a different level, and Spurs looked exhausted!
Character? We let in 6 and Liverpool backed off 😂
Forster was still diving trying to save the first goal whilst the sixth one was going in.
The immediate context of the Liverpool game is that Liverpool rested 8 starters who played against a young, inexperienced, and fatigued defense playing their 3rd game in a week.
The medium term context is that Spurs have missed anywhere from 7-10 players over the past 2 months - absentees being doubly damning for Ange’s system that requires energy in every phase of a game.
The long term context is that Spurs have overhauled their squad and made it drastically younger and it will take more than a season for things to click considering, for example, that two of their key players are 18 year olds.
Ange is suffering a historic injury and absentee crisis that is hard to legislate for. He couldn’t predict that a player would get a 7 match ban for being racist or that his whole backline would be injured or that half of his front line would be unavailable for the first half of the season.
There is, however, more than enough evidence to demonstrate that his system is devastatingly effective when players are fit and available.
Moreover, taking the Spurs job at the time he did was damn near career suicide for Ange considering the absolute dumpster fire that the club was in post Conte.
He took our club at our worst and not once has he disparaged the club like Conte did every fortnite.
Ange is not blameless however. I am baffled by why he didn’t integrate Lo Celso into the squad and give him more minutes last season when Maddison was atrocious. I am confused as to why Skipp was never given a proper run in at the #6 position.
I am utterly confused as to why we signed Dragusin, a slow player who is poor on the ball, considering that we sold Dier because he is… you guessed it, a slow player who is poor on the ball. I am surprised that Udogie plays as many minutes as he does considering that he returned from a very serious long term injury. I am surprised that we payed as much as we did for Brennan Johnson - not his quality, but his price tag.
Considering his performances over preseason and the past few games, one really wonders why Djed Spence has been so significantly marginalized and left out of the Europa league squad.
However, despite all this, the least that we can do as fans is repay the faith he showed to our club at our worst and support the guy through what appears to be a historic low.
Spot on.
I don't know how much Spurs fans will care about this but I think Ange has brought quite a lot of good will to the club from neutral fans. 'Spursy' as an idea is slowly changing. For years you were the team who lost through weakness, now you're the most rocknroll team in the league! "It's better to burn out than fade away" ... or maybe even "To dare is to do", if that your actual philosophy, Ange is your perfect manager. He lives that
We appreciate the compliment but this is part of the problem - other fans generally see us as a soft touch. Opposition managers love this manager but they don't have any fear of him nor his tactics.
@@tc-ou2zb Hmmm. I kinda get where you're coming from but at the same time, Spurs have been a soft touch for my entire lifetime and if you think opposition managers don't fear a team that's scored 39 goals in 17 games, you're crazy. Yes, you can be got at but you can also destroy teams. I personally believe this is the 1st time you've been feared in decades
@tc i know liverpool fans that said if they hadnt got slot they would have given ange a go if they approached him
He's definitely a Spurs manager in spirit, but that's not enough these days. I'm a rival fan & can honestly say I don't fear Spurs what so ever with this guy at the helm. In a one off match sure, one of the best attacking teams in the league, but over the course of a season? Nah.
I'm thinking the Bournemouth manager is made for Spurs with every passing week now. There's serious Spurs at their pomp w/Poch vibes about Bournemouth this season - it feels natural.
This is the stupidest take ever. People will forget about you when your in the championship getting beat 8-0 each weak lol
I'm starting to not like our fans against Ange because they might be the ones that get him fired before he has got his final sqd assembled
I thought we actually played quite well given how depleted and overworked the players are, against the best in the land by a country mile atm... Played the full 90 minutes. Gray, Deki and Djed were great!
Back the manager, back the team. Social media is a cesspit and getting worse.
That Tottenham fan tone "hello everyone, Alasdair Gold here". I feel for Tottenham fans. As a Celtic fan and, as a result, an Ange fan, I really want Tottenham to do well. Hope they stick with him.
Celtic person.. What changed from throwing tennis balls on the pitch to loving Ange.. Was it when he won things.. Or did he win u over before?
Isn't Rodgers doing just as well as Ange did? He got Leicester relegated. Perhaps they're the same level? Can't cut it in the PL
We are 18 months into a Major Rebuild!!!!! Liverpool is a settled side, and Tottenham is far from it. This Team is a Frankenstein of a Team with players from Poch, Mourinio, and Conte eras. Please Guys have patience, Daniel Levy break a habit of a lifetime, keep your finger off the Trigger when things get a bit awkward. Please fully back Ange in the January Market and the Summer We also need to remember that we have a Major injury crisis to deal with. We were always Lambs to the slaughter against Liverpool. We need to stay patient and hopefully get a few more ready-made players in through the door. especially a competent No,6
People are forgetting Liverpool have only conceded 3 goals in one other game this season (so far). We scored 3 goals against the best team in Europe and England right now (top of Champs League and Premier League). They had an almost full squad (except I think Konate) who are fit and fresh and on form. We had a makeshift defence with a RB as LB who has barely played recently, an 18 year old at CB who is a midfielder, our 3rd choice centre back and a knackered Porto - and Forster in goal who has barely played in the last few years.
Yes, it would have been great to not concede 6 goals as that hurts, especially at home. BUT - there are a lot of positives to take from this game and season so far.
COYS
I am 61 and have been going to Tottenham for longer than I care to remember. The last time we won the league I wasn't even a twinkle in my old man's eye! The best times I had supporting Tottenham were the 80's we had good players who won FA Cups, League Cups and Uefa Cups but were really never close to winning the league. Most of those cups that we used to win have been hoovered up by today's money teams who didn't win much at all back then (we all know who I am talking about) (that's where the impatience comes from and why Harry Kane remains trophy less). To win anything is doubly difficult due to resources available to some teams now. Also we have done the manager merry-go-round to no avail and frankly I am bored of that prospect and who is going to come in and make a difference anyway? That is not to say I think Ange is perfect there is no way we can continue like this and I do think he is going to have to reconsider the way we defend and game management particularly when we have a good lead because if he doesn't he will lose all the fans and his job. Cheers Ali.
Not surprised Liverpool beat us.Im still 100% behind our manager. Let's get behind our team. COYS
11th in the league at Christmas.
Ange out
Dreamer, you proud of that defending or that system, also we have done much the same with our missing players on the pitch.
It will not work at this level, not now not ever. Ange will NOT change his system either.
Hi Ali, I'm afraid I've checked out and don't even listen to Ange's post match pressers anymore!
Im definitely far more Ange In than I was before the Liverpool match. I know it may seem extremely unhinged considering the scoreline but the fact the guys didnt put their heads down after going down 2-0 and then 4-1 and 5-1 and were still trying to score goals until they got back to 5-3 shows me how much these guys believe in Ange and what hes trying to do. We've seen Spurs teams in just the recent past that were allegedly more defensively sound yhat would've crumbled the minute the first goal went in and it likely would've end 0-6 or 0-7 but they didnt give up and i think that should be commended and earn Ange a ton more credit
F the haters. Liverpool are the best team in Europe at this point and we have defenders mia.
Our real defenders have been shit too
Eh? Even Real Madrid should not be scoring 6 at our ground, clueless
Would having romero and vdv back change the fact that we totally lost the game in midfield and the 2 at the back were constantly exposed through FB pushing so high? Sometimes you need to call a spade a spade. Ange has not managed this period very well
@@samyan24 Exactly.....I have seen us being just as bad with our best 11 on the park too. It's bonkers football. Like Bielsa at Leeds.
Exactly! 10 players out either injured,suspensions or illness. NO TEAM can function like this,no matter WHO they are yet hardly any pundits, commentator or journalists seem to acknowledge this. TBH WHO CARES?!! They don't like us,WE don't care #COYS
Ange needs to be extended. He will get us success. It's a perfect storm currently. That won't last forever and when we get our players back and reinforcements in the trade period over summer we will be a top 4 side. Mark my words.
The sample size is getting big. Since the initial unbeaten run in 2023, Spurs have had mid table form. Many of the worst results occurred outside of injury crises.
@@eriklakeland3857because right now they are a mid table team.
I think Ange is getting leeway from a significant percentage of fans due the trauma of going through the Mourinho, NES and Conte era. That style of unenjoyable football has been replaced with the opposite extreme of chaotic attacking football that is branded “The Spurs Way”. It is a feeling of (arguably desperate) hope that this heals the post Poch era wounds.
The fear of losing that “Spurs way” and risking the sense that we could revert back to unenjoyable football is too much to handle!
Tightening up the defence when you have a makeshift, knackered back five, perhaps by throwing in a extra midfield defender, is just common sense not a betrayal of your principles.
He played Sarr and Bissouma. They just didn't do a good enough job defensively. Liverpool cut through our midfield at will.
Sorry Alasdair. It doesn’t sit right with me that you’re sitting here excusing a 6 goal battering. You say Archie Gray and Spence played well but they were part of conceding 6 goals and these defenders kept out City’s attack 4-0, put 5 past Soton and kept United out until Forster gave them 2 goals for free. Liverpool had 9 big chances and could (should) have scored more. It’s the system and Ange’s lack of rotation that has cost us. Why did he not rest Udogie/Porro for Spence before they got overplayed? For this game he should’ve subbed Udogie on much sooner and moved Spence to the right, probably started one of BJ/Werner and Bergvall in midfield, just to keep energy levels up. I’ve never seen so many excuses for a pathetic battering. When we’re conceding the same goal time after time, a long ball over the backline, do something about it! No, “it’s just who we are mate”. And why is the alternative to Angeball boring defensive play? It doesn’t have to be, how about being balanced and working on weak areas of the team? No, that would make too much sense. This club is rotten to the core, stop excusing it. This is the first time since Redknapp took over from Ramos we’ve been bottom table come Christmas. Full team or not, we haven’t been consistent since Chelsea (H) last season. Also, adapting play to suit the players available to your disposal is NOT abandoning your principles, it’s adapting to the current situation. When he knows Forster is nervous from the United game, tell him to make easy passes for the opening 20 minutes or so, not to make more risky passes that almost cost us goals because “that’s on me, mate”. It doesn’t have to be two extremes all the time.
Not sure how you took that as excusing conceding six goals. I said it was dreadful and embarrassing to do that, but simply added a touch of context.
Kulusevisky gave a very sincere and self confident answer in his short after match interview, when he was asked if he thinks Liverpool was too good for them. He said I don't think so and went on to clarify in very few sentences what happenened.
Manchester City lost Rodri and they detriorated immediately and they had no shame in using the loss of Rodri as an excuse.
When Liverpool lost Van Dyke they could not compete for the title.
So it is shameful for Liverpool and particularly for the pundits to gloat over the win over a squad of 14 players only with half of them teen age or early twenties inexperienced players who have been playing only two days before a major match.
It is true that the result will be in Spurs's record, but the fans know what happened.
So you mean expect nothing of the team I’ll they are all in their mid twenties or older.
@@paulwebb8018 No, that is not what I meant.
Ange Playing ultra-attacking football with lots of players injured against a top opponent is ridiculous.
Digging in deep for one game and try to hit on the counter would be forgiven surely, but nope.
No tactical flexibility and instead EVERYONE knows what we do and how to play against us.
You think our back line would hold up parking the bus?
They’d still score 3-4 and it’d be a boring frustrating grind that everyone would have hated, even the pro Ange folks. The haters will hate no matter what he does
@j24ish erm... No. Tactical flexibility is not the same as parking the bus. Utilising the players at your disposal to the best of THEIR ability, against the opposition you face is what Ange needs to do. Slow the game down, frustrate the opponent, break on them quickly.
Ange does none of that and that's why we've lost 8 games already.
Did someone forget to tell Man city? Or Man united?
Yeah we should have give them a clean sheet shouldnt we
Did we not play defensive and counter with Jose and Conte? What did that get us? Nothing. Style of play is not the problem
Nothing about that game surprised me, still fully behind ange. He brings a mentality that this team has needed for a long time.
What mentality? Please tell me what the mentality was when we...
Gave up 2-0 leads to Brighton and Chelsea and lost.
Took 1 point from games against Ipswich, palace and Leicester.
Lost 8 games out of 17.
What's this mentality you speak of? I don't see it
@masterful
Sticking to our guns under pressure and getting two goals back against liverpool in a tough situation and not letting their heads drop is a good example, playing our football even when armchair “tacticians” talk nonsense. Arteta arguably lost the league title last season by buckling under pressure to play defensive against city and not go out and win the game. True consistency can only naturally be achieved by repetition, and we have plenty of proof our football can win us big games.
@masterful if people could understand this mentality they would be better off in most aspects of life, not just football. A little bit of self belief can do a lot.
@@bb5979 actually there is much more proof thag we can't win big games. We have won 2 out of 9 against the top 10 this season and last season was pretty poor as well
@@bb5979 what self belief? Cool we scored a couple of goals. And lost the game by 3 goals. We capitulated against Chelsea and Brighton. We lost to 2 relegation strugglers. We haven't beaten anyone decent when we played them in the europa.
Where was this amazing self belief trait then?
Hi. Strikes me that it was a perfect storm. Liverpool touched the ball and it turned to gold (LOL) every thing they did worked, Spurs were tired and missing 10 members of the squad. Spence has grown well, Gray is becoming a leader and Deki has become a go to player.
It's 10 missing now the last comment I read above it was 9.
It's 3 gk 2 cb and bentancur suspension the rest are bench players at best.
Hi Ali, long term listener appreciate your content and reporting. However, I'm surprised how little you and your written press media colleagues are reluctant to challenge Ange on his lack of tactical flexibility. Of course we are decimated by injury but does that absolve Ange from insisting that we continue to play the high line and exposing young Archie and Radu so badly? The insistence to play this way when clearly he doesn't have the players to is on him.
Why was he not questioned on why he started the same team? Was Johndon not fit enough to start for Son?
Yet you and your colleagues and much of the fan base continue to give him a pass.
Just because Levy has labelled it a 'project' doesn't mean Ange is the right man to lead it. What evidence do you have that he is the right man??
What are you talking about? He gets call every press conference. Pay attention
@carygson I do listen to every press conference and he certainly was not asked those questions yesterday. He has been asked 'generally' about his inability to change tactics my points were more 'specific'...
Thanks, Alasdair. Disappointing as it was, I appreciate that the team did not give up. Memories of Spurs throwing in the towel are still fresh and I give the team credit that they didn’t resort to that behavior. I knew it would be a tough match in light of so many injuries and over playing. I also worried about Forster not regaining his confidence. Hope he can shake it off. And, yes, we need to win against Forest.
It’s also good to see the players being supportive of Ange and showing a more “team-like” attitude. I remain supportive of Ange.
After the Liverpool game I’m totally Ange in .. 6-3 is better than 0-2
How about losing 7 - 10. Would that keep you Ange in ? 🤦
7 goals against Pool would be pretty impressive.
Conceding 6 goals at home is terrible 😫
Yep, absolutely.
The Utd game was the final nail on the coffin for me. Then 3-6 was just taking the piss.
People support Ange because we've been amazing when everything clicks. There are enough positives to believe it's worth sticking this through for the next 18 months and see what happens.
Ironically I feel that Spurs have sorted out a lot of the football side of the club and are trying to do the right things behind the scenes now. The problem was that we weren't doing that for 6/7 years and we are still paying the price for it now
20 wins in 42 is quite poor. Most of the worst results occurred outside the injury crisis.
We were dead , we haven't been able to change players in weeks and if you swap the managers slot would struggle as well , we have got rid of over 20 players as well Liverpool have had the same team for years and are on a different level
Cannot agree regarding swapping managers, if we swap managers we will lose a system that WILL NOT work in these league at this level !
yes so why not just realise we cant play againts liverpool right now the way we want so lets keep tight stop them scoring ,play counter attacking try to get a goal and keep tight and late on liverpool vulnerable pushing up if is a big word i know but at least give our self a chance
@@frozenice61 Stubborn Ange says at EVERY press conference HE WILL NOT CHANGE ✌✌
Scoring 3 against Liverpool is a positive. We had our second string center back and an 18 year old in defense. With a World Cup winner and the fastest player in premier league history in the back, we could create a perfect marriage. I have so much hope that players will come back and create a flowing system
I’d also be interested to know what the kulusevski x levy song is, haven’t heard it on the tele or on socials
The performances were inconsistent even with Romero and VDV as our CB. Remember when they were both injured and booked last season after November, and how we all said if those two are back we will march on until may? What happened? bottled 4th place because of inconsistrency. Its like this fanbase is trying to cling on so hard because they know this is dross, but dont want to look at the cold hard reality.
@ the cold hard reality is that we have an entire starting line up out with injury. VDV and Romero aren’t perfect but they would give us options to use all of our players and fully rotate. We didn’t have the option to rotate last season due to a thin squad, but we have more players this season who can put in a shift. We just need them back from injuries and focus on rotation and getting the right minutes
These fans are entitled with nothing to be entitled about.
He is playing fantastic entertaining football he has 8 players missing.
He's been there 17 months it took Ferguson 42 months to win a trophy.
It takes time losing 6-3 is better than losing 3-0.
He will get this right football needs to be exciting not boring.
He's a top man and manager.
Real Madrid 60s Holland 70s still talked about today
Lol did anyone actually expect we would have beaten Liverpool? Please. Of all the losses this one bothered me the least
Might aswell give e them a bye in the carabou cup aswell this club man
1-0 6-3 does it really make a difference 😂
@@adammacfarlane9351of course we want our club to win, but these are very difficult situations for us. The carabao cup is a different story since most of our players will be back then. But, even then we’ll be big time underdogs.
@humzachudhary2056 we can win at home 10 nil we will still lose at anfield 11 0 that's our club
Liverpool could’ve scored tbf. Once again we were so wide open and susceptible to the same ball over the top.
We would’ve still been smashed with all our defenders back.
It really is this simple. We have been calling for a direction in this club. Now we have one. People with any sense know this is going to be like a 3 year plan before we are anywhere near finished. Poch took 2 years to be anywhere near title challenges 3 years to be a very good team. The turn over of players is mental. Saying that. People like son and biss need to be sold.
Son is not getting sold
@matthewmcweeney2091 why not? He has been awful
Greetings from Sydney. When it comes to issues with the decimated Spurs team, the pundits are looking looking, mostly, in the wrong direction. The front five are exhausted. In Ange's system (Spurs, Celtic, Yokohama) the team defends from the front. The front five are the key to defending. Son, Kulu, Solanke, Maddison and Sarr are spent. Because there is no front five depth on the bench, they have had to play game after game. I'd love to see statistics on how many minutes the starting front five tonight have played across all games since the Man City win. I bet it's significantly higher than for LFC's front five or ManU from Thursday night. No Odobert, Moore, Richarlison & Bentancur, and a lack of Premier League ready transfers over the summer has left the squad running on fumes. I'm surprised they played as well as they did under the circumstances.
So you agree he'll never work in the prem
The amount of arm chair managers in comments is starting to get boring. Why don’t you trying actually supporting your club? As a Spurs fan I don’t mind stating we have one of the most entitled fan bases in the league, who feel they have some “right” to trophies! Grow up and actually support your club!
Which fool actually thought we had a chance yesterday? I’d rather we have a bloody crack and go down swinging than waste everyone’s time and lose a pathetic 2-0. Bravo Ange
I'm %100 Angeball in. I like a high line & high scoring Tottenham Hotspur. (Edge of the seat football)
The injuries can be mitigated with better off-field management.
What we need is depth in the playing squad (put your money where your mouth is Levy).
Reflected on yesterday a bit more. We could have played that full strength Liverpool side and easily lost 0-3. Instead we went for them. 1-2 at halftime was readily achievable. So to me, we need to tighten defensively but not throw out our daring style...To Dare is To Do ... very proud of the team yesterday COYS
Hi Ali, thanks for all your good work over the year and wishing you and yours a very merry Christmas 😊 coys
Just wanted to say I personally truly value the dedication and insightful reporting you do covering this crazy (at times) club we support. Your work provides all of us with valuable information and (imo) the only journalists that I enjoy reading and listening to on all things Tottenham.
Wishing you and your family an amazing Christmas Mr Gold and keep up the great work.
Thank you. Same to you and your family.
Thanks for the video Alasdair and for your coverage over the last year. Wishing you a very Merry Christmas
Thanks Marc, same to you.
We thought things would improve last season when we got players back, but they didn’t so why should it be any different this time?
If we sack Ange I will stop believing in this club and where we are going. I'm on board for this rebuild.
Thanks, Ali. I have just grown to accept that many of our fans can’t seem to be happy unless they’re complaining or upset about something. Losses are treated as complete disasters, wins are treated with cautionary tales of what went wrong. I’m still all in with Ange. We just need to get through this rough patch and get some of our starters back. I noticed Liverpool were still pressing and trying to score til the end, but, no pundit complained about them not managing the game which helped us get 3 goals. Spurs are the only team bashed about this. Ali, don’t waste your time talking about our injuries, 18yr old CB, backup GK, tired players etc. because I tried and our fans hammered me about making excuses, basically we should be winning every single game no matter what. I really believe this manager can get us where we need to be if we can show some freaking patience. It’s the 2nd season of a long, overdue rebuild for crying out loud. Thanks again, Ali. We must stay the course with this manager and continue our rebuild. COYS!
Whatever you think of Ange the football is exciting and at times exhilarating and way better than anything under Sherwood, Jose, Nuno, Mason, Conte, Chelini. When we were 5-1 o down no one left the stadium and still there at 6-3. That says a lot. We have to give him more time before we make a full analysis. Last year at the 2 periods where we were at full strength we won loads. We are still in every competition!
My sentiments too, it’s exciting to watch spurs under Angeball, and I will continue to enjoy watching them, win or lose. I remember when premier league was very defensive and very boring, 90 minutes nil all were common and boring as bat shit, what we have now is much better.
I've supported spurs since 1958 I've seen great great times and seen worst ,this present situation has not discouraged me one bit if anything bothers me its the fans that go from game to game up and down none of us enjoy these bad times but lets not waiver in our support for our club and realise the big gulf in the two sides that took to the field Sunday .
I'm standing with Ange here - the players love playing for him and that's the key barometer for me. Once the backline injuries are healed, we will see more stability in our defending and results. It's clear the team needs another CB for rotation, unless Dorrington is to come good sooner than later. Phillips and Vuskovich are not ready to start in the prem yet. Archie Gray has been great considering what Ange has asked of him but we really need him for RB rotation with Porro, who has already played over 1800 minutes this season. This style demands depth; time to open the checkbook, Daniel.
Merry Christmas, Ali. Thanks for the content through the year. A journalist taking the time to do what you do is very much appreciated.
Thanks. Very kind of you and the same to you.
These videos should be titled Gold Therapy: A Sense of Calm
Unfortunately nothing will change until levy goes.. He’s meant to be having an interview with Simon Jordan released soon. Hopefully saying he’ll be gone…
Sooner the better.. Rotten to the core.. 20 years of failure.
Last year moaning about not enough games,now it’s too many..
Ffs
Levy out
"a leopard can't change it's spots" and Ange shouldn't change , Simple injuries is killing us but still giving 100%.
Good points about Conte and Mourinho. They were 'win at all costs' managers, and they didn't win. They did not have a vision. Ange has a vision for sure. The defensive structure has to change - you are right!. Can any player be an excellent attacker and a great defender? Can the human body do it without injury? Why, in the name of Beelzebub, can we spend many millions of dollars, buy 14 players that Ange wants, and still not have enough players. How do Liverpool do it? Can we not learn from them? There must be a way to do it. Liverpool, apparently have enough fit people to run two high quality teams, one for the Cup and another for the League? How do they do it? Are they Supermen? WHY DON'T WE LEARN FROM OTHER TEAMS AND STOP BEING SO STUBBORN!
Part of the problem is that the new stadium hasn’t been the thing to elevate the club to the next level as promised. Yes the record transfer fee is now bigger than 2017 when the left WHL, and levy might argue that’s progress as we now spend more than then. But on the field it’s not leading anywhere.
Totally agree with your analysis, Ali. I think the majority of clear thinking, rational fans are also on the Ange train because he embodies our mantra, To dare is to do…
We just need the rest of the fans to believe it.
Merry Christmas and keep up the great work, Ali.
Thanks Mark. Same to you.
That and a defense.
Sorry but no one is winning anything by completely ignoring defending and just trying to outscore the opposition. Ozzie Ardieles got laughed out of town for trying it. We are 11th....I'll say that again, we are 11th. Ange ball is naïve in the extreme and I am genuinely baffled why fans are still backing a manager and system that doesn't have a chance in hell of working in the PL.
Great managers of the past like Sir Alex changed his tactics based on the circumstances. His team was deadly on the counter. Why does Ange think he invented something new? Managers who've tried the same thing he's doing have failed, too.
I've got to say I'd prefer that we lose at home 6-3 rather than 3-0. Imagine losing 3-0 at home to Bournemouth 😉 (Well done Bournemouth by the way)
Conceding 3 at home means you’re playing a better team. Conceding 6 means you’re giving up big chances every time they try to move forward.
Injuries are just an excuse when you get injuries it’s the perfect time to show your managerial abilities show that you can adapt this manager does not play to the strengths of the team his ego is getting in the way
n’importe quoi !
Ally some of the fans were briefly and intermittently singing his name in a half hearted way there wasn't any resounding support for him across the stadium. I think you are seriously fooling yourself if you believe otherwise as it was a pretty apathetic atmosphere at the ground yesterday. The unquestioning support for him by some sections of the fanbase is beginning to sound more cultist in it's nature than anything based on any consistent evidence (I am ambiguous about him tbh and not saying he should be sacked either). I get all the excuses about the injuries but we had this all last season around the same time, and when all the players came back after Christmas (basically the same set of players and defenders as we have this season) we were terrible until the end of the season anyway. And those type of poor performances have persisted despite the ocassional glimpses of brilliance this season. As for the manager complaining about having to answer the same old questons maybe if he didn't keep on making the same old mistakes he wouldn't keep getting asked them.
I disagree, the support for Ange was no doubt there. The younger fans want Ange out as they don't see the bigger picture, the style of play is exciting and everything real Spurs fans want, it's the quality of signing that Levy brings in that needs to be questioned. Give Ange the right quality and we will be a force to reckon with. The sooner Levy and ENIC get out of this club the better. Levy doesn't want players sitting on the bench earning massive wages, therefore our squad will never be good enough to win anything. You have to have a squad, where you have two players for each position that are equally as good as each other, and of a good enough quality. 24 years of doing it Levy's way doesn't work. Levy & ENIC OUT.
can't disagree with any of this
@@Borgie31 do u know where we were before Levy took over? That's the problem with fans u don't know your history. Levy has been amazing for Spurs we were relegation candidates before he took over. But yeah he doesn't waist 400m on Osimen so waaaaa eniv out lol u dweeb shows how immature and dense you are. Ange is the problem not Levy. When we had Poch who thanked Levy when we were going to the champions league final? No one. But he was responsible for that.
That just wasn't the case though. It was loudly sung a number of times. He was asked about it in the press conference because of that, as we could all hear it in the south stand. With an opposing view perhaps that influenced the way you heard it.
@@AlasdairGoldjournalist Ally I was there as well and it did surprise me that his name was being sung despite what was happening on the pitch. It didn't sound particularly loud down the Paxton but it was being sung as you say albeit briefly. I just think there was just a lot of apathy from the fans yesterday about the team. I want him to succeed and have seen some wonderful football at times. But I find it tough to see how it will happen longterm after watching us concede 13 goals in the last 3 home games let alone how we have played at times with a full squad to pick from, which let's face it has been more the norm than the great football. And how do you think his comments about missing the most of his defense will go do with 3 of the current back 4 who will be playing on Boxing Day? They just heard him throw them under a bus. Maybe if he came up with a tactical plan to help them out we wouldn't be seeing such an apalling set of recent results. Ps I am not being entertained either please pass that on to him.
Taking into account the context, I was actually encouraged by Spurs display. Application and effort to the final whistle.
As far as the fans go, those calling for AP's sacking (including click-grabbing podcasters and sensationalist media simpletons like O'Hara) tells us less about Postecoglou and much more about these individual's personal mentality - ability to see the big picture, their emotional regulation (or disregulation), rationale, ability to tolerate ambiguity etc.
Hopefully this screamy minority are ignored.
Ange won't last
Nuno could have succeeded if he was allowed to play his style. The Spurs fans and board would never have allowed that.
Merry Christmas AG! Another great video! Coys!
Same to you. Thanks.
Interesting that we wanted Slot (also Diaz)
If Postecoglou believes what he says, it appears a key part of his approach is playing the same way in all situations. That would mean ignoring score, time remaining, and how the other side is adjusting to Spurs. It also implies you play the same way if the opponent is Liverpool or Southampton. That's fairly radical and it is getting glossed over. The assumption here focused on what is being built and how Spurs will play after the injured players return. But the question will remain, is such an unusual approach viable? Is the focus more on entertainment than results? If someone told you there was no gravity and it was safe to jump out a building you wouldn't because you know there are consequences. Taking Postecoglou at his word, isn't he really saying that football gravity (the minimum things any reasonable coach must do and account for) doesn't exist? Do some due diligence and ask people who are in the profession if this can work, or at least look at what the ones who have commented are saying. Blind Faith was a fine English band, but a terrible way to look at a football system.
While all social media can have bad actors, I think the split between X and Bluesky is that a good chunk of new Spurs related users came to Bluesky to escape a lot of the dialogue that happens there. Overall, as it stands now, while we can all have different opinions, it feels more civil on Bluesky (also doesn’t hurt that it open sources their moderation tools). Also it does feel like the crowd there might be a bit older or at least has interests outside of football/soccer and doesn’t mind talking about that from time to time.
I’m fully behind Ange. On the one hand, the club cannot keep thinking it’s always the manager that is the issue, and on the other, the torture of going through Groundhog Day every time one gets sacked has really worn me down to a point I don’t think I could do it again. Is Ange the guy to bring Pep levels of success? Probably not. Does his football bring me joy and does it allow us to, on our day, win a game of football against nearly everyone? Yeah. For that alone, I think he can get us a trophy. The main thing is that he is likeable, as have all good spurs managers been, and that his football always encourages the players to give it a go.
People have short memories of just how bad Jose and Conteball was
Why compare Ange to the dire,
turgid ball under the Italians. That shouldn’t be the benchmark for our club! We need to aspire to bigger and better things and deliver!
Exactly, fans have such short memories, or fonder memories than the reality. We were a team that didn't know how to score after Poch was sacked and people somehow forget that. Jose and Conte style was so negative and boring to watch
Personally I find him quite arrogant
Injuries or not we're already well on course to lose 15 league games or more for the first time since 08/09. Ange rushed back VDV and Romero when they were almost back, making the injury crisis worse. Even when both of them and Vicario were fit we were having poor performances and results. He's not going to change anything tactically and unfortunately it's never going to work in the prem, as much as I'd like it to.
Ange didn't rush anyone back. Players have to get the okay from the Physio and Clubs Doctor. That must happen for insurance purposes, if nothing else. Blame the Medical depth.
@@granty1954some people like to push their narratives and make up stuff they don't understand. So many experts on social media with no experience.
Thanks for your thoughts and efforts all year Ali, you have been great.
One thing.... Those who are interested in social media can experience it first-hand...those who aren't interested in social media don't want to experience it's reactionary silliness second hand either .... even from your good self.
You Sir, are an absolute legend. I tip my hat to you.
I'm Ange out . Given the amount of injuries you have to be pragmatic until you can field a full strength squad.
Ange laments he can't rotate but the fact is he never did when he had the chance .
Never played Spence , refuses to play Lucas , will can't get a sniff when it's so obvious that solanke looks knackered.
Anges game management is abysmal . The sooner this fraud leaves the better even with a full strength squad I don't think Ange will win anything
to be fair, Will got a red in his first start
This is a good point about the not playing the backups when everyone is fit and available.
@@matthewmcweeney2091 true but he absolutely deserves to play more . The lad made a mistake but I think he can rest solanke a little more and give Will some more minutes. But he just won't .
Against Bournemouth he came with 2 mins left . Just shocking
Results not good, the system is highly dependant on competent on-it defenders, Liverpool are a world class established team: losing is not a surprise. I'd much rather lose 3-6 than 0-3 in a turged horrible game. Get a good squad, solid defence & we will fly! COY Ange!
I feel almost completely alone in this, but I did genuinely enjoy that game despite it being a pretty big loss... I didn't have great expectations, which helps a lot! 😂
Obviously at 1-5 it's a horrible feeling, but when we pulled it back to 2-5 and 3-5 it's not unrealistic to believe we could score one or two more. Looking where we were a few years ago and the current state of the squad, that's progress in and of itself in my opinion!
Liverpool are just so class, have loads of depth and punish small mistakes. They are the benchmark for us to be honest! Give it some time to develop the squad and I honestly see no reason why we can't compete with them eventually, but right now they are on another level to pretty much everyone else in world football generally IMO.
Merry Christmas Ali. Thanks for another year of great content
Thanks. Same to you.
Love your work as a Spurs journalist Ali but please don’t waste a question by asking Ange whether he has any regrets this season. It’s just not interesting to readers and he’s not going to give you a decent answer. I think most fans would much rather hear about how he sees Gray and Bergvall developing (whether Gray could end up as a CB, whether Bergvall is a 6, an 8, or a 10); and what he’s doing to stop teams from isolating Dragusin in possession & to improve his general in-possession play
Tottenham Fans are the worst..
What Devine right do you have to win something. Your team doesn’t win anything. So STFU support your team through thick and thin and just maybe long enough for a manager to do something. The Fans are the problem. Not the board, not the managers, no the players. The fickle fanbase with no patience, with an inability to support or follow through are the PROBLEM!!
Thank you for the videos through the year, Merry Christmas to you and the Family Alasdair.
Thanks Mark. Hope you and your family have a great one.
I'm a bit tired of hearing that this guy "Has a clear vision for the club" that fact is, it's now Christmas and we are 11th in the table. There is no excuse on the planet which makes conceding 6 goals at home ok.
Entertaining football doesn’t win games. Winning football always equal to winning games
Zabarnyi and Huijsen are 22 and 19. They've kept clean sheets against Spurs, United, City and Arsenal. They dont have better FBs alongside them that Spurs have. Is Iroala putting them in better situations to succeed, does he have better tactics?
too many simply in denial
He will be sacked in the next 4 weeks.
Forster continued to suggest he got injured against MU, with exaggerated use of his feet and difficulty getting into a crouching position.
If that's true then it raises the question of: are Austin and Whiteman so poor they still can't be brought on in an emergency?
Prior to yesterday, Newcastle were the only team to put three past Liverpool in any competition this season. Yes, we conceded six, but Djed and Archie and Radu were all immense, Deki was unplayable, Big Dom was dogged; even Biss and Pape were pretty decent, but what could they do against the continuous balls over the top? What could our boys, as knackered as they were, do against the gegenpressing of fitter, sharper, fully rested players? Nothing, which is why our passes were often anticipated and intercepted, and one-on-one duels were lost all over the pitch.
Back in January 2021, Liverpool came and tonked us 3-1. The next day I was asked at work what I'd thought of the game. I replied, "It was like watching Germany invade Poland." Yesterday, I got that feeling all over again, except that instead of circling the wagons as under Jose, we struck back even when it was obvious that all was lost. That is what the fans in the stadium were cheering.
Deki was good but not unplayable. Salah was unplayable.
Happy Holidays Ali! Thanks for all the videos this year.
I feel like everyone is knackered, that on top of injuries hasn't helped. Still fully behind Ange.
Same to you Andrew.
I understand what you are saying about the thrown together defence. However if you have that to deal with surely adjust your team for that game ? Maybe try slightly different tatics for that game .. yes you might want to play " your way " but come on if you cant adjust for a few games is stupid .
100%. Don't have the personnel? Adjust the tactics. Remaining players are exhausted from the current schedule? Adjust the tactics. Ange let the team get whipped. We might have still lost but we play Forest away in three days. Adjust the tactics.
We have seen coaches like Mourinho and Conte. They lost most times against Liverpool, so tell me what would be different
I think he doesn't seem to see that he doesn't have to stop training his beliefs and style, but for odd games when the personal isn't right for the game then just adjust your tactics a little , Liverpool would not of expected a different style from us , we might of even caught them unaware . It comes across as quite arrogant to the situation , I like Ange he just needs to be able to adjust to the squad availability.
The lack of a DM who would hold their position was obvious. Szoboszlai killed us, because we failed to cut out balls bypassing midfield. Still giving the ball away far too much. Particularly Bissouma, and Sarr. Sonny seems to have lost a yard. Still brave in defeat.
If you don't have the full squad to choose from then you have to tailor the team to suit- Ange is running your players into the ground full stop
Honest to God, I'd rather lose 6-3 than 2-1 in stoppage time after being pinned in our end for 90 minutes. Bring in someone to improve our defense maybe, but that wAs a tired team playing a team firing on all cylinders.
Hi Alasdair thanks for the info thanks for your hard work take care stay safe
Sorry Alastair - As a football reporter you are missing some essential points. The criticism is not about playing a different way. It's about periods of game management. Spurs have just got back into the game. So you manage it so the coach can talk to the players about being one goal behind instead we'd lost the game when Spurs went 3-1 down. That goal was largely caused by Djed Spence trying to press Trent 40 yards away from the area so Trent just lifted the ball over and Djed is neutralised. Also, recently we've seen teams like Chelsea, Fulham and Liverpool that are so well coached. What stood out was every Liverpool player had a player to pass to whereas we had no out balls. So often we went down the flanks and Dejan and/or Son or Djed were surrounded by three Liverpool players. We played as individuals not as a team. That is the coaching not the players. We paid big money for some of these young players. If a hypothetical Alex Ferguson had such a depleted team would he have been bold and used the kids? He won the League with kids in 1995 - 1996. Fans loved Poch. His teams did not score as may goals as Ange but the defence was so much better. Here's a stat. Poch reached 67 games on 1st October 2015. His team had scored 105 and conceded 78 and lost 18. Everyone loved Poch's football. Ange' team, after Sunday has scored 134 but conceded 101 and lost 22. This is not JUST about the current injuries. This is about the coaching and the methodology and an experienced journalist like you is not helping fans when they read or listen to you by not looking at the bigger picture and accepting the line that this is a recent problem.
Still miss poch football
Fans forget many a time we were 3 or 4 nil up by half time and then poch knew how to defend and manage the game
I don’t think we should get rid of Ange but I think Alistair Gold is a biased judge of our managerial situation. He will never speak negatively of Ange for professional reasons. Even when Conte’s reign became clearly untenable, Ali would not put his professional relationship with the club at risk and speak what was clear for all to see.
"a right back playing at left back in second ever premier league start... an over user, over loaded right back who just looks like he's running on empty.." There is a solution to both of these problems, and that lies squarely on the manager who refused to give Spence minutes despite how good he has looked every time he's been on the pitch. I don't mind the loss to Liverpool, they are clearly the better side, but to absolve the manager of all blame for our current predicament is a bit much. He hasn't utilized his squad and rushing both our starting CB back was asking for disaster.
I think, Ali, that leeway wasn’t given to Jose or Conte because they generally acted like they were too good for the club, and with their turgid style it couldn’t work.
Ange is using injuries as an excuse. Injuries that his style of play is probably causing, and that the club should be able to cope with as it should be able to provide a quality squad.
We now live in a world where people have short attention spans. They want (fairly) instant gratification.The Tottenham board have been rather like that too. If Fergie had started his managerial career in this decade's febrile environment he would not have survived more than two years. The same goes for Wenger. Ange has my sympathy. During Conte's reign there was the fan clamour, 'We want our Tottenham back!' Well Ange has delivered on that front and I think this is why there is still strong support for Ange in some quarters. He deserves the squad to be strengthened again in January and the summer. If by next Christmas we are in the bottom half of the table then perhaps I'll change my mind.
Thanks for your ongoing dedicated coverage, it is appreciated.
Since Udogie was on the bench, Ange could've moved Spence to RB and brought him on at LB.
i agree with this-Spence was rampaging down the right in previous games-he couldn't/wouldn't do that down the left
Simon Jordan is Levy's mate. Any interview will be a complete waste of time.