yea, like basically all the mirages, they have a very specific playstyle which i really enjoy, luring someone out for a dogfight and shitting on them feels so nice
@@-Hari-03 thats why I love "clutch matches" when theres 1-3 people left on each team, everyone kinda goes back to base, and a new sort of match starts
Yeah the mirage takes a well-practiced and disciplined delta pilot to do well in - I love them, but i also love the delta playstyle a tone - most people i think just get rubbed the wrong way with delta's, its not for everyone.
Can you believe by the time this plane rolled out the majority of the French Army was still using the Mas-49/56? Basically their postwar rifle that is like your M1 garand
kill stealing is gajin fault. you can bring the hole enemy team down to the deck supporting your team but if you dont kill or damage stuff you will get 0 RP.
thats true i played a 15min match and got like 150 rp where i was the main target dodging everything making it easy for the team to shoot them down, missed my clip and game ends returning to battle.. there definitely should be a mechanism for points for defence
Gaijin doesn't help with KS? Fine. It's our responsibility to us then. Just kill them every time a KS occurs so maybe they'll learn after a few times. This is how you train an animal. Quick and expeditive retaliation repeated everytime it's out of the line
@@8miles299 no, it just make us pay, if you want to stop kill stealing, add something like beyond 25% of crit damage on the structure, if someone finishes your kill, you get the main reward and that person gets the assist
American 10.0-10.7 is absolutely criminal. It’s usually full team of F5C/E and F8U/E against maybe 2-3 mig and mirage. Been having 90% win rate in my F8E lol. Playing anything other nation at this BR is just asking for suffer.
f8e is a monster. It's powerless compared to the SMT and it's a brick compared to the F5E and even more brick than the C but the energy retention is so insane damn. I once soloed a Mirage, a Kfir canard and a MiG21, i got the three crit (god knows why) and crashed because i tried to pull up without flaps thinking that i was too quick for the leading edge flaps to help pitching.
Speaking of revisting old 10.3's, you should check out the AJ37 again. With custom loadouts it can now cary both a gun and countermesures at the same time and with its flight performence and two AIM-9J's its kind of a beast at 10.3.
People have been absolutely stomping sim in it. Last night watched a guy go 14 and 1 on the enemy team in one. F-5C fed him an Aim-9e from the front aspect for his one death. What are you gonna do? He was probably doing that open cockpit cheese but gotta go back and double check that… He was not.
Can confirm. Got bored with German top tier with the 29 and ground out the swedes for it. Fastest thing on the deck and the aim 9js are basically two kills and if you get the hang of the 30s you’re borderline untouchable
@@robertgaudet7407 can confirm AJ37 is absolutely oppressive in sim. Seeing them just clean everyone up made me want to grind sweden, but its ok i didnt join the dark side yet cause i bought the counter to cancer viggen in sim: Kfir Canard.
Defyn can you please play the F4D-1, I and a lot of others have bought it due to it’s cheap price on the market and I would love to see another video from you on it
@@Only-se7gv I know but the video is pretty old and I’m pretty sure the price has gone down since then, and I’m guessing that means more people (like myself) bought the skyray
This is one of my favorite planes, I love shooting the slow ass radar missile at some level 6 warthog who didn’t bring flares and watching em panic lol
Honestly the number one thing that holds the R530 back for me is that the radar on the Mirage 3 is just... plain horrible. At least on the 3C, I find myself really struggling to get a lock or even radar contacts period. At high altitude, it is perfectly servicable, but below 2 km it just feels like it does not even function.
The Mirage IIIE is definitely a great plane if flown properly, and the radar missiles can get some unexpected kills. (Even tho I haven’t played in some time.) Also I agree that the A10 are so annoying especially when your just trying to grind by base bombing.
Hey Defyn, what plane would you recommend to grind out French jets? I got to the early jets tier using the F-6C Prem and that was fairly good but I'm struggling to guess what the best option is for the rest of the tree? Premium, talisman, or whatever works. Thanks
If it's still available the Milan is a decent base bomber, but other than that you'd be better off finding something you like flying and putting a talisman on it
@@fate3071 i was wondering if the Jaguar (french) was a good plane to talisman, flares, magics, and supersonic it's not very fast and it dumps speed super fast for a non delta tho so IDK)
@lajus-debattheo1745 I have the event jaguar and it is decently fun. Like you said, it's slow but it has defent turn fight capabilities. Magics are nice, but you HAVE to research all of the rockets first before you can use them. It's fun once you get there, but a real pain in the ass getting there
mmm Mirage IIIE video just as I'm getting to this rank of France and contemplating between the IIIC and IIIE for a talisman - hopefully I can get to the Mirage 2000 without too much hassle... (I do own the Milan and F1C but I do want to fly other planes for the grind every now and then)
Like other dude said, if you're going to talisman one, talis the E. The C at the same BR without flares, even with the better flight performance, is just an L. The only reason I have one on my 3C is because I got it for free from a box. I don't think the 3E was even in game yet actually. That and the E looks better. I cannot stand the stupid exhaust of the 3C. The 3E actually has a regular looking exhaust/feathers.
Please help me control my plane, try to use alt to freelook but it can not be overwritten by the keyboard. I deleted all other binds with alt but it keeps snapping back :(
You should really make an F-100D video, now that it’s 9.3 it’s actually useable, and if you feel the need to have flares, you can use rockets as discount flares
this jet is very good, but its grind is really painful at first. i have to play 10G missiles before i get the Matra, and to get them i have to research half of the plane's parts. and i have to do that with 10G missiles in 10.7 ?! seriously ??!
would love to see a video on the J35A again or j32B.. i sayt that cause im uptiered every single game and idk what im suppose to do besides headon and pray. just the no flares, bleeds energy like mad. and against aim9Ls and R60s with no counter play
FR I am an honorable player and nvr steal kills. I always pay attention to the target if he's dead or not. But when I manage to cause an enemy to die by crits, my teammates come stealing. This further motivates me to steal the next kill my teammates crit.
This is good but how do you fly the plane before it ? The super mystère B2 ? I keep getting my as* kicked in 0.7 to full uptiers and loosing to planes that are twice my speed
Man I have had so many dumbass teammates like that Av8. Literally yesterday, i critical hit an av8 who is flat spinning then an ayit comes in and steals the kill and tells me to cope. Such rats
Hi defyn, lately i'm experiencing massive problems with desynced shots. Nearly every round i get killed because of desynced shots (not a skill issue i have screenshots where you can actually see the bullets not hitting me), what can i do against it?
Is this Mirage IIIE pretty much just the same thing as the Israel Kfir C2 ? But the Kfir C2 gets the nasty boy Pythons. Just asking because I haven't finished the French tree yet but Im not too far away from it.
The missile drag changes have absolutely neutered the Magic's, both the 1 and 2. They already don't start tracking immediately but now they have the range of an R-60 but slower and doesn't turn as well because of that delay
The F4C style . Climb high, radar joust . Once su 25's and a10's engage your team , pop down low behind them ,get kills and DO not overshoot a su 25. Back to base and rinse and repeat
@@dum9944 yeah its hardly usable at 10.7 The Belgian one is slightly lighter but both turn horrendously and take forever to reach speed again. Idk if the values for the drag coefficients are still bad but its not great.
For anyone watching now, this plane is hot garbage. It got a BR of 10.7 now. Fly the IIIC instead, at 10.0 >Climb to altitude just below contrail >Use the 530 for head-ons at high altitude if Radar, 530E if you want more ammo in your dive. >Dive from above on people using Magic 1. Fire them below 3Km, rear/side aspect, while leading them as much as possible. >Escape and repeat. You have no flare. You are a delta. If you do any kind of dogfighting, you will be bleeding speed and at this BR will just get clapped by a random IR missile. Still better to run guns over the booster due to the occasional head on.
Hey defyn, having some trouble. i cannot get kills or do anything with any prop fighters, yet do well with stuff like the SB2C, is there any way you could help?
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i actually like the Mirage III. You can dogfight anything, but only one by one, if you keep that in mind, its good
yea, like basically all the mirages, they have a very specific playstyle which i really enjoy, luring someone out for a dogfight and shitting on them feels so nice
Sounds kinda F-100-y
@@-Hari-03 thats why I love "clutch matches" when theres 1-3 people left on each team, everyone kinda goes back to base, and a new sort of match starts
Yeah the mirage takes a well-practiced and disciplined delta pilot to do well in - I love them, but i also love the delta playstyle a tone - most people i think just get rubbed the wrong way with delta's, its not for everyone.
Shahak is good too. Just no flares at 10.0
that KS followed by a TK would make me so mad lol
That's why you kill the killstealer first, then reengage the enemy.
@@bezimienny_andzej642531 kill per match sounds like a wet dream
MMMMMHHHH French dorito
should've TK'd that harrier
Absolutely agreed
Mirages gotta be some of the sleekest looking planes. These triangular wings with no rivets look amazing.
Can you believe by the time this plane rolled out the majority of the French Army was still using the Mas-49/56? Basically their postwar rifle that is like your M1 garand
@@tommyle7376uno mas, uno mas, uno mas...
kill stealing is gajin fault. you can bring the hole enemy team down to the deck supporting your team but if you dont kill or damage stuff you will get 0 RP.
I did this in a Wyvern last night and got 12% activity even though I was being chased and shot at for over a minute.
thats true i played a 15min match and got like 150 rp where i was the main target dodging everything making it easy for the team to shoot them down, missed my clip and game ends returning to battle..
there definitely should be a mechanism for points for defence
Gaijin doesn't help with KS? Fine. It's our responsibility to us then. Just kill them every time a KS occurs so maybe they'll learn after a few times. This is how you train an animal. Quick and expeditive retaliation repeated everytime it's out of the line
@@8miles299this.
@@8miles299 no, it just make us pay, if you want to stop kill stealing, add something like beyond 25% of crit damage on the structure, if someone finishes your kill, you get the main reward and that person gets the assist
I have finally got Mirage 3 C and its my favorite craft and one of the bests that i fly in i can destroy almost anything 1v1 , cant wait for 3E !!
I would had blasted that AV8 out of the air if it was with me, the fact that he TK'ed you after shows how useless kill stealers are
Not even useless, they have negative value
They're basically blue enemies
@@-..----.--.-...nah they dont even deserve to be the enemy
@@mikewazowski9941 Never should've been born
4:00 right here we have an F5C, an F5C, an F5C, an F5C, and a SU22
my bad there are 5 of them
My favourite family of jets in game :)
American 10.0-10.7 is absolutely criminal. It’s usually full team of F5C/E and F8U/E against maybe 2-3 mig and mirage. Been having 90% win rate in my F8E lol. Playing anything other nation at this BR is just asking for suffer.
f8e is a monster. It's powerless compared to the SMT and it's a brick compared to the F5E and even more brick than the C but the energy retention is so insane damn. I once soloed a Mirage, a Kfir canard and a MiG21, i got the three crit (god knows why) and crashed because i tried to pull up without flaps thinking that i was too quick for the leading edge flaps to help pitching.
@@kingghidorah8106brick is a stretch f8e is very maneuverable too just not quite on the level of the f5
@@King-_Of-_Mars f8u has much more control authority (at the expenses of pulling 18Gs in a blink of an eye and snapping)
not to mention the a10 words.
@@braedynhoward3644 these absolutely control the match.
that av8 man for me this should be a insta perma ban and his house swatted for real
All I’m saying is I noted the name
@@jacobdoolan4978 lol
Lmao that missile kill u made for enemy at 7:58 was awesome
Speaking of revisting old 10.3's, you should check out the AJ37 again. With custom loadouts it can now cary both a gun and countermesures at the same time and with its flight performence and two AIM-9J's its kind of a beast at 10.3.
People have been absolutely stomping sim in it. Last night watched a guy go 14 and 1 on the enemy team in one. F-5C fed him an Aim-9e from the front aspect for his one death. What are you gonna do?
He was probably doing that open cockpit cheese but gotta go back and double check that…
He was not.
Can confirm. Got bored with German top tier with the 29 and ground out the swedes for it. Fastest thing on the deck and the aim 9js are basically two kills and if you get the hang of the 30s you’re borderline untouchable
@@robertgaudet7407 can confirm AJ37 is absolutely oppressive in sim. Seeing them just clean everyone up made me want to grind sweden, but its ok i didnt join the dark side yet cause i bought the counter to cancer viggen in sim: Kfir Canard.
@@skilz2kil528sad it has no working search radar tho
i was the mig 21 that he was fighting before getting tked and i can confirm he landed did a 1v12 and killed everyone
your videos keep me on my rp grind
OH S*** MUM, I'M IN A DEFYN VIDEO! 4:52 I'm the lightning!
That Harrier player plays while sitting on a champagnes bottle.. That should explain it.
such a shame shadowplay didnt work
Fav 10.3 fighter, just behind the F8E
Best description of a plane i've ever seen
Defyn can you please play the F4D-1, I and a lot of others have bought it due to it’s cheap price on the market and I would love to see another video from you on it
Yeah but he already made a video on it
@@Only-se7gv I know but the video is pretty old and I’m pretty sure the price has gone down since then, and I’m guessing that means more people (like myself) bought the skyray
I will
Its in the works
@@DEFYN its time for a hurrican video too, cannons are wild if used right
For all my f4s skyray brethren, use landing flaps for maximum meme
Ah yes, Defyn, the God of Flaring.
thank you for the performance
I like the “I hope you stub your toe this evening” lol much better than the regular “kys” which these children don’t understand
I got second hand frustration from that kill stealer/ team killer. Absolute muppet…
Yoooo!! Hope all’s well in your world. Requesting a video covering Italy’s BF-109 G-14/AS
I love it when this guy says dawhg fight
This is the main reason I want to play France but I'm too lazy to go through props again
The props were unique enough to not get boring. It’s the tier 5s and Super Mystere that made me want to cry
@@alexrodriguez3853just beeline for the jag and you’ll be fine
@@alexrodriguez3853 if you want fun in 9.0 france use the etendard
@@alexrodriguez3853I actually enjoy the super mystere but I think it’s really cool so I’m probably a little biased
Can you please play the french D. 520? It's not amazing, but surprisingly competent at 3.0 and there's basically no videos on it whatsoever
that cannon at that br can do no wrong, only issue is keeping up with 109s but that can be said about any plane
5:57 sometimes blue is just a particular shade of red.
This is one of my favorite planes, I love shooting the slow ass radar missile at some level 6 warthog who didn’t bring flares and watching em panic lol
would love to see you fly the f86A-5, at 8.3 but you basically only get 9.0 games, at least in my experience
Have you ever checked Defyn's player card? The F-86 is his highest performing plane of all time
I somehow got the 9.7 map vietnam at 2.0, something is messed up with map rotation, most people didn't even have enough fuel to do anything
Holy fuck those 30mm's are bad, you'd think they're 7.7's or something.
Best harrier player in all of warthunder
The mig-21s dogfight was beautiful
If u steal my kills y get a express ticket back to the hangar
Honestly the number one thing that holds the R530 back for me is that the radar on the Mirage 3 is just... plain horrible. At least on the 3C, I find myself really struggling to get a lock or even radar contacts period. At high altitude, it is perfectly servicable, but below 2 km it just feels like it does not even function.
Could to take out the one of the f8f cougars besides the swept wing one I’m trying to debate if I should get it and use it
could you please fly the c205 serie III? Day 29
Kill stealing should be a reason to get banned
The Mirage IIIE is definitely a great plane if flown properly, and the radar missiles can get some unexpected kills. (Even tho I haven’t played in some time.) Also I agree that the A10 are so annoying especially when your just trying to grind by base bombing.
If you are grinding by base bombing, let me suggest to you who the annoying person is here....
It's you asshole.
Hey Defyn, what plane would you recommend to grind out French jets? I got to the early jets tier using the F-6C Prem and that was fairly good but I'm struggling to guess what the best option is for the rest of the tree? Premium, talisman, or whatever works. Thanks
If it's still available the Milan is a decent base bomber, but other than that you'd be better off finding something you like flying and putting a talisman on it
@@fate3071 i was wondering if the Jaguar (french) was a good plane to talisman, flares, magics, and supersonic
it's not very fast and it dumps speed super fast for a non delta tho so IDK)
@lajus-debattheo1745 I have the event jaguar and it is decently fun. Like you said, it's slow but it has defent turn fight capabilities. Magics are nice, but you HAVE to research all of the rockets first before you can use them. It's fun once you get there, but a real pain in the ass getting there
mmm Mirage IIIE video just as I'm getting to this rank of France and contemplating between the IIIC and IIIE for a talisman - hopefully I can get to the Mirage 2000 without too much hassle...
(I do own the Milan and F1C but I do want to fly other planes for the grind every now and then)
E for sure. C is fun but without flares its a death sentence
Like other dude said, if you're going to talisman one, talis the E. The C at the same BR without flares, even with the better flight performance, is just an L.
The only reason I have one on my 3C is because I got it for free from a box. I don't think the 3E was even in game yet actually.
That and the E looks better. I cannot stand the stupid exhaust of the 3C. The 3E actually has a regular looking exhaust/feathers.
Could you consider flying out the f104a or the f104c since I realized it hasnt been on your channel in the past few years?
stubbing his toe is not enough... he should stub BOTH toes for that
Please help me control my plane, try to use alt to freelook but it can not be overwritten by the keyboard. I deleted all other binds with alt but it keeps snapping back :(
Yoooo defyn idk just sugestión but would You play the yak9ut i just never seen a vid on it is it Bad or You just don't like it.
No entiendo como es que se rindió ante el mig 21 que se le puso por detrás si se supone que aquel no gira mejor
You should really make an F-100D video, now that it’s 9.3 it’s actually useable, and if you feel the need to have flares, you can use rockets as discount flares
hey defyn can you do a video on the f7f-3?
this jet is very good, but its grind is really painful at first. i have to play 10G missiles before i get the Matra, and to get them i have to research half of the plane's parts. and i have to do that with 10G missiles in 10.7 ?! seriously ??!
would love to see a video on the J35A again or j32B.. i sayt that cause im uptiered every single game and idk what im suppose to do besides headon and pray. just the no flares, bleeds energy like mad. and against aim9Ls and R60s with no counter play
FR I am an honorable player and nvr steal kills. I always pay attention to the target if he's dead or not.
But when I manage to cause an enemy to die by crits, my teammates come stealing. This further motivates me to steal the next kill my teammates crit.
HEYA!
This is good but how do you fly the plane before it ? The super mystère B2 ? I keep getting my as* kicked in 0.7 to full uptiers and loosing to planes that are twice my speed
Man I have had so many dumbass teammates like that Av8. Literally yesterday, i critical hit an av8 who is flat spinning then an ayit comes in and steals the kill and tells me to cope. Such rats
Can you revisit the A-4N?
MiG-21bis is absolute pain now. Yes, it has R-60Ms, but that's all it has at 11.0.
It's flight performance is more than enough
Hi defyn, lately i'm experiencing massive problems with desynced shots. Nearly every round i get killed because of desynced shots (not a skill issue i have screenshots where you can actually see the bullets not hitting me), what can i do against it?
Pray
Treshak_16rus I will remember your sin
Mirage IIIe cutting throttle or mig-21 in diamond regime? Aim-9G knows the answer.
Is this Mirage IIIE pretty much just the same thing as the Israel Kfir C2 ? But the Kfir C2 gets the nasty boy Pythons. Just asking because I haven't finished the French tree yet but Im not too far away from it.
Pretty similar, after all the kfir is a mirage 3 with canards
@@akagalaxy_4403 figured that seeing how they look so dang similar.
DEFYN you should fly out the spitfire mk-24
The missile drag changes have absolutely neutered the Magic's, both the 1 and 2. They already don't start tracking immediately but now they have the range of an R-60 but slower and doesn't turn as well because of that delay
they instead favoured aim9d's and g's by making them bleed more and not overshoot like they did before.
@@kingghidorah8106 The AIM-9J's feel better to use than Magic 2's recently for me
5:43 lul
Is there any reason to fly the IIIc? Yes it’s lighter but it has no countermeasures, is it like a trade-off kinda thing?
The F4C style . Climb high, radar joust . Once su 25's and a10's engage your team , pop down low behind them ,get kills and DO not overshoot a su 25. Back to base and rinse and repeat
I mean, if you enjoy playing under constant stress that there might be an all aspect coming to you at any moment
Seriously, though, what's the proportion of your death causes in WT (enemy players, team kills, aa, gayjin)?
Mmmm the elephant in the room vid
A10 late game is so busted, once i got 40 ground target kills with just the gun, and we won pretty easily
5:58 smartest wallet warrior
I'm teamkilling that A10 player if I ever see him
GERMANS I5 - 003?
f104A when?
I challenge you to get 10 kills in 50 m targeting distance
This is why i just teamkill anyone that kill steals blatently, i have plenty of silver lions to spare
this aged like milk
10.7?
@@dum9944 yeah its hardly usable at 10.7 The Belgian one is slightly lighter but both turn horrendously and take forever to reach speed again. Idk if the values for the drag coefficients are still bad but its not great.
@@Definitelynotasam Belgian one loses the belly missile.. going from 3 to 2 is a massive loss.
Mirrage wings dont rip so easily as Kfir's
Great thing about your videos is, you can have audio on your videos turned off and still see what you are saying.
For anyone watching now, this plane is hot garbage. It got a BR of 10.7 now.
Fly the IIIC instead, at 10.0
>Climb to altitude just below contrail
>Use the 530 for head-ons at high altitude if Radar, 530E if you want more ammo in your dive.
>Dive from above on people using Magic 1. Fire them below 3Km, rear/side aspect, while leading them as much as possible.
>Escape and repeat.
You have no flare. You are a delta. If you do any kind of dogfighting, you will be bleeding speed and at this BR will just get clapped by a random IR missile.
Still better to run guns over the booster due to the occasional head on.
Attempt 7 of asking defyn to play the p63a-5
It always baffles me when I see people flying the F4F Early... Like seriously, why? Why would you use the worst Aircraft at it's BR?
This plane was good and is still good but to him it sucks coz he doesnt like the playstyle wow
Day 17 of asking Defyn to play the yak 30d
Talk about a 1 turn fight with that Mig21S and if you promise about the Su25's then there's no reason to doubt you 😉
Can we get vid about f84f? It's so fucking bad that it would be hilarious
average ruski, steals and then teamkills xD
Sadly the overly-grindy nature of the game promotes people to KS like that. Everyone needs as many points as they can get, however they can get them.
also defyn loves me because im sexi
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Are you ever gonna do a Mirage 5F video?
Hey defyn, having some trouble. i cannot get kills or do anything with any prop fighters, yet do well with stuff like the SB2C, is there any way you could help?