Navy SEAL Rates Naval Special Warfare Scenes in Movies | Jason Pike
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- Опубликовано: 8 янв 2022
- In this video I break down scenes from Season 3 Episode 14 of SEAL Team CBS. (In the video I state episode 13 but it is in fact episode 14.)
This TV show is produced by former Team guys and have former SEALs that work with the actors.
Disclaimer: In Hollywood there are things that must happen to appeal to the eye and then there are real world tactics. It it extremely hard to be 100% tactical in a movie and it remain enticing to the human brain.
There is no way I have the ability to understand everything happening on scene, or in the directors mind, therefore I do the best I can with consideration to my experience and time as a SEAL, the tactics taught now to SEAL Teams, and what I teach in my training. There is a baseline of tactics and then we adapt on the fly.
Have a great day and God bless,
Jason Pike
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SEAL Team is probably the best show to date out of any of the SOF shows in the past. They got a lot of the stuff right that counted, and did a lot of justice to the mental stress side of the job. Season 5 with jason going through TBI has been fantastically written
Yeah I love the show. One thing I wonder about is that you see a lot of shooting with the gun canted. I csn never see if they are using canted red dot of whatever. It's usually Ray doing it. So I would think so. But the way its edited (him aiming with the rifle canted, followed by shot through reticle of his scope or eotech) makes it look weird.
@@AGfrom83 usually the canting is just from natural movement. If you put a rifle in your should pocket it will naturally be slightly canted cause it's not actually straight up and down, It's a concious thing to keep the rifle straight up.
The scope thing is an editing part really. When they film those shots it's not with a gopro down the sight of the rifle in the shot as its happening. They film it seperately then put a scope overlay on top. Not canting it to match is a bit lazy but not something that ruins it for me
@@josephrosenbaum3343 yeah im just wondering whether people actually shoot like that. Especially with a scope... I wouldn't be able to hit shit.
Lmao at your name btw
@@AGfrom83 when you're in the most pucker factor situations dynamic entries and the other shit that goes on in the show. You start reverting to muscle memory and instinct. It's why they train day in and day out.
Longer range shooting like that can get harder, cause now you have to guess your holds. But it's not really that bad, you train to shoot in ackward positions
For me only Ultimate Force rivals it.
It will be interesting to see a reaction to later seasons now the show has gone to a streaming service. All of a sudden it seems much darker. Really enjoyed seeing the silver? tiger stripe the guys wore in Korea.
I didn’t know that they went to streaming. I did see an advertisement where it showed Jason going off the edge. I love the tiger striped.
@@frogmantactical It's now on CBS/Paramount + from the start of season 5. Tiger Stripe to me has always meant the most daring stuff and the most hardcore guys. MACV-SOG and similar. I dig your channel.
Hearing them actually cuss is nice
I enjoy it more when it's more realistic or darker. So I'm really enjoying the streaming episodes.
They really did the mental health stuff a ton of justice. Jason's TBI rollercoaster has been fantastically written so far
Small correction on 17:20 .
I might be wrong but the tank their fighting against looks like a modified MT-LB which DShK can penetrate from any given angle, making their decision of mounting that DHsk quite logical. But to build up the intensity, the producers decided to make the MG fire ineffective so that air support can come in just in time to save them.
Good catch. Very possible. I was just going off the show rather trying to figure out what tank it was. Based on the video obviously it wasn’t penetrating therefore it was beyond the DShK’s capabilities. Perhaps they weren’t shooting armor piercing rounds, modified tank exceeded armor specs or something. Nonetheless great point. 🙏
I really enjoy these breakdowns!!
One, I enjoy Seal Team…
Two, by seeing what they do, be it right or wrong, and then having you explain/critic, it’s a lot easier for me to understand and learn from it.
I hope you’ll do more of these (you got season 4 and 5 to cover😉) even if it’s not your favorite thing to do. Idk how the views will add up but it might help bring more viewers to your channel and it’s a more relatable way of teaching and explaining tactics to non military people IMO
Tyler Grey was an operator on Bravo in this show and he was a Former Operator of The Unit and he helped choreograph all these fights and room clearings. @20:21 on Comms that was actually him
You’re very straight forward. I like that. I find that to be a rare trait these days.
Appreciate you taking the time out of your day to review these silly entertainment pieces and actually throw in some of your first hand knowledge of warfare and special operations. Really cool to get a taste of how a real frogman thinks and how you would handle/operate these situations, regardless of it being likely to happen or not.
This is honestly prob the most informative intriguing videos I've ever come across thank you for your service and expertise advice
Very cool, more of this please, I really appreciate the way you break this stuff down!
Jason you will never get back to me. Im to old to train. Just love it and my wife and I do the stuff that is relevant to us. We shoot every day that we can. Have a great day and God bless
seal team has to be the best military series i’ve ever seen. your breakdowns of the tactics, is so in-depth . i enjoy your content
I always get something from your videos, because you have more knowledge than I do. Thank you.
Cool to see guys like you doing videos about the realism. The more realistic a scene is, the more immersive the audience can be.
Your channel is underrated, dude. You should have more subscribers! You're a good video editor, too.
Awesome great TV show. Seal Team
I agree that they wanted to certain it on Jason with Jason being the 3rd guy on the stack.
However, whenever they want to breach fast, I notice they usually have the actual working guys take point like Trent (Delta), Full Metal (Seal) or use Brock and the Dog (K9 unit). If they need actors to clear a room, they usually have Clay and Ray, being that they seem to take the training most seriously.
Jason’s actor is a little older and isn’t moving quite as fast, nice or fluid as the younger guys, so they rarely make him go point. The guy that engaged the first target before going to the corner was Trent, the leftie Delta guy. I notice he usually takes point with a right hander for better coverage. Seemed like Jason was a 2man there, for a change.
As for the fly by, I would guess it’s for Hollywood effect. Would be difficult for the closeup scene of the fly by occur prior to the explosion of the tank if it were coming from the blufor side. So, I guess the director won in having the fly by effect as it goes pass them, after the explosion.
Awesome video, you’d likely never run out of content by just reviewing Seal team episodes. Always a pleasure watching them.
Definitely a consideration. Honestly I couldn’t tell you who are the real operators or not I don’t study them. 🙏
@@frogmantactical another possible video, I’m sure plenty would like to see an analysis on their mannerisms and what they’ve carried over from where they were. It almost seems as if even team guys have slightly different mannerisms just by when they were in, even if it was a mere difference of about 5 years since they got out.
Tyler Grey (Trent), was a Green Beret, not CAG.
@@BelgianPigeon tyler grey was a ranger and then he went to cag he wasn't ever a green beret
@@BelgianPigeon I thought about this myself before as he was just mentioned to be a Ranger-Sniper or SF under CBS interviews (how Owen and the other DG guy were just called Seals while their command was not specified), but it seems he's just quite humble about it. Plenty of interviews showing he's a T1 guy without any denial while not openly admitting as well. Working under JSOC, and not just USASOC per se, also supports CAG. I highly doubt that he wouldn't deny the claims in his interviews made on his behalf if he was a SF supporting a T1 unit. Unsure if he was a GB, but I wouldn't be surprised if he has an SF tab along with his Ranger tab. See the following:
www.thevetsproject.com/the-blog/2016/8/9/sfc-tyler-grey-army-special-forces-operation-iraqi-freedom
sofrep.com/gear/tyler-grey-former-delta-operator-walks-you-through-home-security/
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Additionally, being referred to as Army Spec Ops officially, or even SMU as opposed to Army SF should already spark some raised eyebrows. And if that's not enough, Larry Vickers also affirmed Grey being in the same SMU as he was. ruclips.net/video/pefGPjfOnrs/видео.html
I haven’t been following this channel long but FrogMan is putting out some great content especially with these Hollywood movie breakdowns. I am a veteran rotor head who was stationed state side at a training base for our beloved Air Force Para jumpers. I see some of these tactical training videos where some of these instructors lessons will get you killed. Great work Jason. Oh yeah I definitely would have taken that kidney/hip shot on the enemy on that technical.
Indeed. Much appreciated. 🙏
Awesome! I enjoy these a lot keep it up
This was a great video! I’m very excited for the long range series!
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17:39 There's some more Hollywood right there. Massive muzzle flash in the day time with a can attached. Yeeeeeah.
Indeed so.
If “classical hollywood” is adding a visual aid to help the average, non expert, viewer tell who’s firing their weapon, then sure…
Awesome breakdown
Excellent episode!
Love your channel and content thanks for the video beother.
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Good Intel Mr. Pike 💯
Love the reaction! I would love to see you react to an episode where they get QRF from the marines.
If you have a season and episode send it over to us on IG frogman_tactical_usa.
Lets go!!!
Love the m4 muzzle flash with a suppressor
Thanks for your breakdowns, been enjoying the show since its release and glad to hear a professional rate it.
One question: at 12:37 the SEALs are discussing whether to dial in or use holds with their sniper fire. Do I understand correctly that dialing in means adjusting the knobs on their scopes for every change in range and "holding" is keeping their initial zeroing in place and just adjusting by their mil-dot reticle?
We used cardinal directions when calling in on ground targets. EG - "Target APC in open, 1-0-0 meters North Northeast of smoke." Of course this was in the eighties, Army and so forth.
Can't wait for the long-range series!
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Pretty awesome breakdown bro..
Can't wait for the long range content ..
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@@frogmantactical I'll look into it for sure
Good video 👍🏻 I'm getting so sick of Hollywood & TV shows not doing things correct. I'm sure they have some form of a military advisor on set - seriously how hard is it. This is why I can watch things like this because I'll sit there calling out wrong & inaccurate things the entire time.
Ya my wife says no more shows like this for us 😂
My fav thing about this show its produced by a Operator Vet, Full metal was an operator (He is a member on the team) , and most of their camera crew are vets. Of course its a TV show so some "fun" needs to be added
Can you do a just quick video breakdown of their "cage room"??
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Can confirm even as an E3 Forward Observer in 2010, you don't want that CAS or AWT coming at you with cleared ordnance. bad juju. Calling for fire is an art, and you don't get undos.
Jason at the beginning when you talked about the first guy in, having to sacrifice clearing his corner if there is a target shooting in the centre.
I'm just curious. Would the number 3 guy who was going centre ever take your corner because he sees you had to deal with the target?
Is that something you would ever drill? Because it seems like it could be a fairly common thing during CQB.
Awesome vid btw. Love these.
Ideally you keep moving to your corner as you engage. However if the 1 or 2 man did freeze up, then yes as long as priorities are in order, the 3 man could and possibly should take the corner.
As I said in video, it happens so fast by the time you are in, your teammates are in engaging which should free you up to get your corner.
Angles, sectors of fire, and work priorities determine the overall actions by the team. It’s extensive.
@@frogmantactical it's fascinating stuff. Thanks for the reply.
Hi! Hope you can discussing some of your points over slowed-down video. Thanks!
you should check out Strike Back from 10 years ago
Good to see how accurately my favorite show is executed. Season 5 I felt that ball was dropped on some of the accuracy, for example NVG's glowing green light forward.
On this episode they had role players in the kill house, which obviously is fine with UTM weapons. Would this ever happen in live fire shoot house? I asked this from MC Hershel Davis few years ago and his reply was, that it wouldn't happen.
It’s pretty legit.
@@frogmantactical This subject usually comes up in conversation about Russian special forces demonstrations. One example would be famous Larry Vickers "INSANE Russian Counter Terror Confidence Drill". Whether same training value could be achieved with lower risk.
There are also some Videos from the german KSK where they put "hostages" in a room together with live fire targets
@@Opsgermanysoldier It seems so. I just watched "Mit Olli beim KSK 6/6". They don't seem to have any problems pointing people with apparently loaded firearms either. I have also seen other German videos, where they flag team mates several times. They must have different firearms safety culture.
The description lol
In the video I refer to episode 13 it is in fact episode 13 🤣😂🤣😂
An A-10 would have been nice!
love this breakdown, but the only things that make me cringe in this series is Trent(the JTAC for the team) calling in CAS. I understand abbreviated requests, but not hearing a proper 9-line and proper verbage just gives me an aneurysm
I almost discussed a 9 line but chose not to.
I would hope shawn ryan would interview u on his show
Just a tip try wrapping up your chatting sessions a little quicker and have more of the show play for people to feel more engaged like you were talking about with the show.
You going to do other scenes
tnxs ⚓
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Wondering what state you are located. I am interested in getting some good CQB training from a worthwhile source
Nobody ever talks aboit the real world. How often does a team get smoked by a deep corner when they enter? How effective is it to ignore the immediate threat to dig a corner? Wont that immediate threat burn down the number 2 and 3 man?
Can you get around that ROE problem by detonating less than lethal munitions like flash-bangs, or smoke ... hoping the target responds with gunfire first?
I’d say being hostile as they were, the ROE’s wouldn’t have applied in real life here.
They have a job and more than likely would have had free reign.
The dam scene has a guy get down with an LMG behind a single layer of sandbags. Wouldn't a 7.62 go straight through a single layer of sandbags?
The sniper calling for the assist is up the hill (?) above the road, and back from the edge of the bank. How do rounds from the road hit the ground around him?
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The breakdown of the last scene really highlights realism vs Hollywood. If the approach of the aircraft were done correctly you wouldn't get the Hollywood scene of the heads turning as the aircraft left. I often wonder if things are done incorrectly because the guys in the background don't want to give everything away but what are the chances it has a real impact on real-world operations? Or it's done incorrectly because 'Hollywood' is the boss.
I wonder how many takes the actors have to do to get the room-clearing scenes to an acceptable standard.
Regarding the first scene at around 2:54:
What do you (Jason) or you guys in general think about doing a step to the center and enganging any visible target from the outside
(without any part of your body or equipment protruding into the room) before actually penetrating the room ?
So that when you're committing, you can fully focus on your corner (the "last 10 percent") ?
There are so many ways to do it. Each has pro’s and con’s. Are for how you described it, the con of that is loss of element of surprise. Yes, one guy is down but what if there are more in the room? Now they have efficient time to respond and train their sights at the door.
By getting into the room faster, you have the element of surprise, get guns in faster, but the cons are you now are more vulnerable.
There is no perfect way. Tactics usually change once the enemy catches on to how we do things. We just try to stay ahead of the enemy. 🙏
@@frogmantactical yea at the end of the day I think people gotta see that it's good to know a lot of techniques to help you out. But it still is really really dangerous it's not tv and some one will probably get shot. It's essentially a 10 foot gun fight. People think this stuff will make you invincible lol.
I believe you said corner-fed by accident in the first scene, it was a center-fed entry.
Ya sometimes I miss those things until we are editing the video. Thanks for the pick up. 🙏
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Let's be on the other side. You're inside the room and your enemy is coming inside your room. How do you proceed?
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It’s about success of the team not arrogance and pride.
Would you be interested in reacting/analyzing a SOF centered video game. Specifically Medal of Honor: Warfighter.
I am eventually going to review the Ocolus system but not games themselves as a whole.
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Doesn't a team usually have a CCT or TACP imbedded with them specifically for calling in close air support?
in Tier 2 and 3, yes. Tier 1 units usually want every guy on their team to be tier 1, so they get special training to be able to call air- and fire support.
@@BelgianPigeon What about the 24th STS? They're Tier 1 and embed with delta and devgru units specifically for CAS. I know all operators are trained to do it but thought they mostly use a CCT for that role. I'm sure mission dictates it more than anything though. And SEAL TEAM obviously isn't going to cast someone just for that.
What kind of watch do you have?
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My question is why didnt the seal team have at least a law that they could have thrown away after shooting the tank. It wouldn't have been all that much more weight to carry and that APC would've have ever been an issue.
Depends on the load out that they have. No reason to take a LAW rocket when dealing with small arms as they didn’t know the tank was present or possible.
@@frogmantactical I didn't think of it like that. I just assumed they would've know whats in the Area. So that makes sense.
If jeff bridges became a SEAL
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I think it would have looked just as good if the jet went over their heads from behind them, and it wouldn't have been as absurd.
That tank-destruction effect was terrible.
Agreed. I know it’s CGI so maybe they didn’t have the CGI data for it on that particular approach or maybe they did it to add the “danger” value. 🙏
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Is the show any good? I think I tried to watch once but something happened that just made me stop.
I think it’s worth watching if you’re into special forces and action movies in general. Of course they change some things from how SEAL units really work but Tyler Grey(Trent) was in Delta and The guy that plays Full Metal was a real SEAL. Dita (Cerberus) is a real police dog and Brock in real life is her human. Idk Brocks real name but he was a K-9 unit trainer. A lot of the crew are also vets.
The best way to put it is if you watch Frogman’s other video and this, there’s not a lot of glaring errors or phony stuff to critic. The weapons may not be exact but very close. Do real SEALs all have a Unity Tactical folding from sight mounted on a Micro Hub set behind their PEQ15 and a A.R.M.S. #40 rear sight? No but it’s not an illogical set up. Most shows, you’d need two hours per episode to talk about everything they get wrong.
They’ll change some stuff to make it watchable and Bravo Team and their story is probably more representative of many SEAL teams over many years than any individual team would experience.
My advice is to start with season 1 and not to start watching half way thru or something. If you’ve made it 5-10 episodes in and your not hooked, it’s not for you. But it’s definitely worth giving a chance IMO.
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I hope he takes you up on that offer!! Awesome rifle… the ATACR is beyond my means right now, much less the rifle. I think Reed Knight said it was in the $16k range including the Leupold 3.5-10x40. Idk what it would cost to source all the parts and convert a ??SR-25??
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Was this guy a NAVY SEAL accountant? Jesus I thought these guys used violence not boredom to kill....jk buddy, I'm sure your badass. It's always the quiet ones...
To be honest -- you know these are just movies and tv shows right? Why psycho analyze a tv show? Just watch it for fun!