Generic Linseed Oil Vs. Purified Linseed Oil
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- What is the difference between generic Linseed Oil found at most hardware stores in the USA and the Purified Linseed Oil that is the backbone to many of the Scandinavian inspired Traditional Purified Linseed Oil Products?
The answer is: Protein!
Protein is not good for wood and is food for bugs, mold, and can go rancid. Don’t put dirty petrochemical oil on your wood surfaces when there is a beautiful, healthier alternative like Purified Linseed Oil.
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I stumbled on your video. I last used linseed oil some 55 years ago for a gun stock. I was researching the oil for use as a wood preservative, but dismissed it due to the negative items you also mentioned.
Thanks to your very informative video and viewers' comments, it looks like I need to reopen my research.
I wonder if the water additive process works the first time, or does it require more cycles to remove all the contamination?
Hi Bill, Glad you found this helpful! It really depends on what you want to create. Artist's clean flax oil multiple times and even use granite dust in the process to refine the oil even more. Not really necessary for making a good quality oil for architectural applications. Start with a cold-pressed flax oil, you can agitate it with water to speed up the settling out process, syphon off the clear oil and heat to create a drying linseed oil (leaving in the sun for an extended period of time will create a Swedish Raw Linseed Oil that has a long dry time). Be very, very careful in the heating process as if can be quite dangerous. Never heat under pressure. Enjoy experimenting and if you want to skip this process, check out our website for the Purified Linseed Oil options we carry.
Helpful information! Thank you.
all linseed oil is open to question in the USA, my experience is that raw is not raw and boiled is not boiled you would have to make your own from raw seeds to be sure see my video "boil linseed oil to scorch a feather " a 16 century advice
Not sure if you are going to see this as this is a 4 year old video but I was wondering if you could briefly discuss the drying times. Say what you will about BLO (it’s full of harmful chemical dryers and heavy metal catalysts) but is does dry. In my experience BLO easily will dry within max a couple of hours. I’m all for clearer products but how long will the purified linseed oil take to dry.
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Yes, certainly a factor. We want to find a middle ground between quality and something that works in everyday life/work. On very dry wood and warm ambient temps., the Purified Linseed Oil may even feel dry to the touch within a few hrs. That doesn't mean it is dry yet deep in the wood. That being said, for most projects we recommend 24-48 hrs in 60+ degree temps and with good air circulation. The Purified Ottosson Boiled Linseed Oil will dry faster than the Viking Purified Linseed Oil we call "raw" (although it is a heated oil) based on its larger molecular structure. Maybe this timing is too long for you but I would stress that we apply linseed oil to protect/preserve wood surfaces usually. The downsides of using a dirty oil full of other additives may be counterproductive in the long-run. Worth consideration I think. Hope this is helpful and feel free to reach out anytime to info@earthandflax.com with specific questions!
@@Earthandflaxstudio Thank you so much! You will most definitely hear from me. I’ve gone deep down the rabbit hole of linseed oils and still have more questions. Thanks again
@@isaaclandau5751Dude, please share what practical knowledge you’ve acquired about linseed oil since this post. Maybe you can save me some time. I’m serious…
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Is purified linseed oil and raw linseed oil one and the same
Great question. So there are a variety of ways to produce and process flax oil to create raw/boiled linseed oil. The "purified" designation (also often called degummed) is simply to indicate the unnecessary protein/fats have been naturally removed to create a high quality oil. When this is done, fungicides and solvents are not necessary as the oil no longer goes rancid and you have an excellent product to then create linseed oil paint/stain/wax, etc. So yes, a raw linseed oil can be purified (usually unheated or sun-heated to be called raw but not always) and so can boiled linseed oil (heated, often multiple times). Let me know if that answers your question. Feel free to reach out to info@earthandflax.com anytime.
I do not have any Bob Ross liquid clear for my applying over Gesso canvas .
Is linseed oil the same as Bob Ross liquid clear ? Thank you .not for wood but before I add my oil paint on canvas . I know Indian yellow was the only one that I could use with clear oil .thanks so much .
I do not think that the Purified Linseed Oil would be similar to that product. I would not use it as a replacement. Thank you for your question.
Earth+Flax Studio ThankYou for your answer!
Earth+Flax Studio I’m doing the BobRoss Golden Rays of Sunshine. You apply gesso. Dry . Then white gesso dry. Paint trees with gesso dry . Then I’m supposed to add a good oil medium. While not to much, wipe off excess . Then by adding my transparent oils Indian yellow,sap green,alizarin crimson, pythylo blue, it makes the colours pop from the liquid clear . A lady who teaches art said that a good oil painting medium would work. Perhaps safflower or linseed,but I was reluctant because I don’t know anything about oil painting yet . The gesso looks easy but I did not get to read your comment , until after I had got a ride to the city to go to Michaels. I bought linseed oil. Refined and gumbacher linseed paint binder , slow drying Artisan linseed painting oil medium too . Plus a stand oil by Windsor and Newton. A paint binder from Gumbacher . Plus I bought gamblin gel water soluble to make liquid white ,but I didn’t get the water soluble oil titanium white . Arggg. So I thought ohhh it should be here , nope. It has taken 11 weeks to get my brushes. So I’m anxious. If anyone who’s reading this knows the Bob Ross golden rays of sunshine with gesso and transparent oil paints ,I’d love your opinion.
I have to say , I’m very impressed that you did answer me. I respect you for that .
Thank you for this vid information on linseed oil! When you show the bottles after shaking/freezing, the supplement variety seemed pretty clean. Seemed like it was 2 layers, yellow layer and slight bubbly layer and small clear layer, at ~2:30 the bottles could see, seemed like was 3 layers,orange,yellow and clear. Which layer is the protein? Wish showed all next to each other (except boiled linseed looked so gross). Could this be used on cement floors? What is differenc between Viking linseed oil and Allbeck oil as both seem purified?
Thanks for your interest and feedback! So the clear layer is the water and the protein layer is always the pale, viscous layer. The Allback and Viking Purified Linseed Oil has had that removed, leaving a much better product for wood. I would probably consider using the Allback Natural Linseed Oil Wax on cement floors: www.earthandflax.com/item/linseed-oil-natural-wax-oz-sample.
Folks who work with cement countertops for example sometimes use a type of wax to seal the porous surface and this is food safe. It is a mixture of Purified Linseed Oil and beeswax.
The Viking Purified Raw Linseed Oil is made with flax from the USA and is more acidic. Great for many applications. The Allback Purified Boiled/Raw Linseed Oil is made in Sweden. They make Linseed Oil Paint out of their boiled and use the raw for specific applications. Feel free to reach out with questions anytime: info@earthandflax.com.
Thanks! I like your video & purefide tasting simple process but how many different Linseed oil & flaxseed oil please explain. .
Glad you enjoyed the video. There are many commercial brands of linseed oil available on the market, as well as health food grade flax oil. If you are looking for a flax oil to experiment with, a cold-pressed option is preferable. Most linseed oil is made from oil from the short variety of flax (the tall variety is used for textiles) and I believe golden flax is one of the most common flax varieties for making linseed oil. Hope this is helpful. Let me know what additional questions come up.
@@Earthandflaxstudio thank but your feedback reply many day I like your information. How many time duration fist code &second code linseed oil wood polish ?
@@sameermalik3294 Time between coats really depends on ambient temps and dryness of the wood. Apply in 60+ degree temps with good air circulation. 48 hrs is a good ballpark between coats in ideal conditions. Give it longer if needed. Surface should be fully dry before applying the next coat.
@@Earthandflaxstudio thanks yaar (friend ) how many coat apply in wood. my living area 43+degree temp & how long lasting grante flax oil Polish !
can i purify home made boiled linceed oil?
You would need to start with food-grade flax oil from the health foods store. That would be your best starting point. Allow it to settle out, syphon off the clearer oil after it has had time to complete the purification/degumming process, and heat to produce a polymerizing linseed oil. Many traditional boiled linseed oils are also heated with a natural drying agent but that is kind of next level. Proceed with caution though as heating oil can be dangerous - this is not an exaggeration. If you want to experiment yourself, do so outside for sure and never, ever under pressure.
how to separate the water ?
The best why is to syphon off the oil from the top using a little pump. If it is a small batch, consider a turkey baster or similar. Hope that is helpful. Reach out to info@earthandflax.com with any additional questions.
Thanks! The video illustrates what I've read much more vividly. :)
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They both create lethal fires
While Purified Linseed Oil does not include solvents, is a self heating oil like cottonseed oil, peanut oil, corn oil, etc. Dampen and dispose of rags and/or paper towels to avoid a fire hazard. It is not combustible in the can or on a surface. Let me know what additional questions come up!
petrol-chemical linseed oil ? ?
Most convention linseed oil found at the hardware store will certainly have at least fungicides and likely other additives to combat the issues of it going rancid, as well as synthetic driers, etc. Many such additives are petrochemical based. Hope the video was a helpful illustration of what high-quality linseed oil can look like! Feel free to reach out to info@earthandflax.com with questions.
Where is the commercially available pure raw linseed oil? This is what my grandfather my great-great-grandfather Etc used on everything in the workshop. How come you left that one out? I think it's a clear that we all know that modern boiled linseed oil is full of poisonous dryers, but why not test of commercially available pure raw linseed oil? Thanks
Hi Mike, Thank you for your comment. I have not come across a good quality purified/degummed commercially available raw linseed oil in the USA outside of the Viking brand (and it is heated so a bit different from the Swedish classification of what a raw linseed oil is. Although it still has a small molecular structure for ideal penetration, etc.). I have come across a few folks who make their own degummed raw linseed oil from flax oil, especially in the fine art community. If you have any brand suggestions, feel free to pass along!
@@Earthandflaxstudio the one that I'm familiar with is Sunnyside Pure Raw Linseed Oil. I'm sure there are several others.
@@Dustwheel I do not believe Sunnyside is a purified/degummed linseed oil. The flax oil is likely chemically processed as that is typical in the manufacturing of both raw/boiled linseed oil for the USA market. If you want to test yourself, follow the steps in the video and see how the oil separates. Agitate with water and let sit. The clarity of the oil and how it settles out is very telling when it comes to its quality without the excessive/costly process of laboratory testing for example.
@@Earthandflaxstudio I'm sure you're correct. But let's go back to my original question... Why is that not used in the comparison? You skip over that after the raw flaxseed and go directly to boiled linseed oil. I don't know, just wondering what the results would be. And we are talking about wood here. I'm sure Viking is as pure/degummed as the driven snow, but I've yet to experience any disastrous results from using PRLO. Nothing against Viking, just may be a scenario of, after a certain level of purification, we just may have marginal or diminishing returns. We are talking about wood and not the intestinal tract. Peace
@@Dustwheel They are all drying linseed oil options used in the comparison - that was the underlying rational for those choices for the video. You are right, we could have included both the conventional raw found in the USA and the swedish raw as well in the mix. Maybe next time.