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Would you buy a Rolex if it had no mechanism and instead a battery. No. You would not. Porsche powered by a battery has stripped the soul from the car. And thus the core reason for buying one. Depreciation is epic, as no one wants them. So if it's to survive, they need to take the EU on along with other manufacturers.
@@kalex381 The only REAL PLACE to drive FAST legally is a Race Track because any roads that set a speed limit it is ILLEGAL to exceed the limit set the other point if you lookat the residual prices on EVs it is EYE watering on ALL MAKES. EVs NO Hybrids Yes !
If they stop with EV's they'll have to fire 90% of their staff. Because only the 718 and 911 will remain. You just can't compete with EV's in the SUV market, not long term, not profitable. So Porsche has to become a niche manufacturer again ?
The EV transition will drive manufacturing away from legacy brands like Porsche and into China. Porsche is on an especially sticky wicket because it's customer base are petrol heads more than other legacy brands.
So , you mean to say all these manufacturer's simply assumed the consumer was just gonna jump on the ev bandwagon because the EU told them it would be all good ?.......Interesting.
Not entirely unexpected. The EU demonstrated that same philosophy with Diesel adoption. The politicians are the tail and it's wagging the dog that is the car makers. Politicians make decisions for political, not technical or market considerations. Is it surprising that they get it so wrong? Climate change is a thing, but EVs ore not a better solution than simply improving petrol vehicles. What's next, mandatory Hydrogen? Although there may be some promise in fuel research, the real payoff will come with more efficient combustion engines. Hydrocarbons produce 2.3 times their weight in CO2, it's chemistry -- the exact formulation of the fuel doesn't matter (and no thank you, I do not want to drive around sitting on a tank of compressed hydrogen waiting to go boom -- which despite some truly awe inspiring engineering at Ford with the Pinto just doesn't happen with petrol, which mostly just burns).
I'm going to have to stop watching these vids about EVs. Thinking about it, I've seen and heard all I need to know that the current technology for EVs is moribund at best, and in its death throes the present Lithium ion battery technology will bring down companies of the stature of Stellantis, Ford, VW plus many smaller brands both ICE and EV. Besides, I will never be able to afford any new car and could no more afford an EV than I could scrape cream cheese off the Moon's surface from my bedroom window. Governments around the globe have, with their brain-dead nett zero carbon laws, successfully mandated the destruction of their car industries and major employers.
As intended. The government push for EVs is a ruse for mass transit, a fascist scheme to remand private transportation as a novelty for wealthier people, just as it was in the 19th Century and early 20th Century when EVs outsold ICE cars.
уничтожение мирового автопрома и есть конечная цель внедрения зажигательных электромобилей! а цифровизация денег всего что только можно, это уничтожение старого капиталистического мира,вместе со всем человечеством,это же уже с 2020 года должно быть понятно разумным людям)
@@ОлегСмирнов-й7ж It's been clear, to me, for several decades now. In the early 1990s, many US EPA employees and state DMV and EPA employees across America were bragging that they were going to "get people out of their cars and into mass transit." William Yellowtail, who was US EPA Admin for Region 8, didn't mince words at all.
Sorry but you are completely wrong EV technology is moving at an incredible pace and they’re getting cheaper all the time. Already far more economical, faster, smoother, safer and more reliable than gas. Once charging is fully available it’s the end for ICE vehicles
They should have researched the customers or potential customers via dealers world wide. I’m pretty sure that as soon as Porsche announced no ice Macans beyond July 2024, pundits went looking elsewhere at other brands. We were disappointed but it certainly made the second hand market light up!
As a long-time 911 enthusiast, I believe it’s time to reassess the EV market’s challenges, especially around value retention. Luxury EVs, including Lucid, Tesla, BMW, and MBZ, have all seen steep depreciation of ~45% to 50% in their first two years. This issue impacts the entire industry. The situation may worsen as the Trump administration aims to eliminate the $7,500 federal tax credit for qualified buyers, which would put more pressure on EV sales and market confidence. Navigating these challenges requires recalibrating expectations and restoring customer trust, something Porsche has long excelled at. I remain committed to supporting that vision.
Jaguar stopping all production for 2 years. Dropping all their current line . Returning with an all knew ev line. I think they will liquidate and disappear for ever. All for what !!
As an owner of a Porsche Cayenne, I'd like to express a marketing concern I have with Porsche. It seems they've adopted the typical American approach to marketing their vehicles, akin to selling dog food or cosmetics, by forsaking the use of factory numbers for names that seem to lack substance. In my opinion, they haven't mastered this technique, as evidenced by all the current Porsche model names, along with others like Tiguan, Touareg, Passat, and the former Merkur. I understand this is the modern way, yet Porsche had no issues selling models like the 911, 928, 944, or 356. I believe the company should focus more on making PDK replacement parts available to the public rather than on brainstorming names in focus groups. Personally, I refer to my vehicle by its factory number: 955. Bitte.
The future of European car industry is in the hands of politicians. If they maintain the populist green religion we are going to loose more than one major manufacturer and we are going to have huge unemployment especially in Germany. The concensus was always only about very simple observations. 95% of the green science is not in concensus. It is about populist, narcicist politicians who want to act as altruists but always on other people’s money and fates. They just keep repeting slogans that water is dry.
To all petrol heads. Please try out an EV first before making a judgement. The instant acceleration and power of an EV together with its low center of gravity will put you a big smile into your face!
Porsche is also a victim of the VW group software debacle. They had to delay the Macan by a year! The whole European industry suffers from a dogmatic approach by the EU leading to unrealistic and uneconomical Green Deal measures while forgetting the global automotive market reality. Porsche must foster its core business of combustion engine cars and customers and provide a hybrid version of the Macan.
@johanmeert530 They won't be profitable before years and years. In the meanwhile, they will have disappeared. The only solution to be profitable would be to build their cars in china (and put a very small battery in it, probably) but then they would be taxed when entering Europe. In Europe, energy is way too expensive. That's what will kill thousands of companies in the months and years to come. Not only the car industry but many others like BASF in Germany.
@@eldontyrellcorp Porsche sold 150.000 Taycans in 5 years. That's not bad at all. I agree with you that it is the EU that is killing its own industry. Not because of the EV push but because they want it all much too fast. Looking at Germany, the blunder of the century was closing their nuclear plants.
a good choice for them is just to stay out of EVs, hybrid will make more sense, I just bought not long ago 2018 cayenne with 80k miles on it with an extended warranty for just 22k, they had an original sticker there 73k, love good deals. As for me I love big SUV like qx80 and those cars lose value like crazy
as a 993 and macan owner, i will say that EV are the future. But it will take time. I have the VW ID4 and i love it. The taycan is very expensive. Lets see how the macan EV will do. Also expensive , but less then the taycan.
Whilst I agree on the issue of depreciation you are ignoring the issue of regulatory compliance in Europe and the UK. They have no choice but to produce electric cars .
All the manufacturer, present in the EU-market, are obligated not to exceed 93 g/km WLTP (around 73 g/km NEDC) in average on registered cars to EU next year (2025). If they exceed, they'll pay 95 Euros for each car and of each CO2 gram they exceed. So if you put, say, 500 000 cars to European market and your fleet's average CO2s are 110 g/km, you end up paying 816 000 000 Euros fines to the European Commission. Now, re-think, if Porsche or any other manufacturer present in the European market, are doing the electrification just because they miscalculated the EV demand on the market.
The German car industry is done, The EU policies and German focus on high-cost vehicles has killed the industry. They need to secure batteries cor its over.
Sure he can, just keep jacking up the prices when sales drops. It will make up for lost profit. What the hell, 911 is already overpriced, just make the base price USD $400K. That will save them
Coming from Porsche Sales at the ground level.... why can't they just offer every car build as EV hybrid and full petrol? Then let your customer base decide and go from there? Is it really this hard? I feel like monkeys are running the show 😂
The car manufacturing world ELT made a really poor decision when they just blindly followed EU regulatory requirements. You don’t put all your eggs in one basket. Hybrid should have been the baseline of their change with some EV’s. They are still getting it wrong, it’s not a case of consumers not being ready yet. The product is not the equal of a ICE vehicle, solve that and people will be willing to buy an equal or superior product. Don’t blame consumers look at your product. Good products sell themselves.
Mate, you are talking about 0.2% if the customers impacted by those issues (..) by the way regarding depreciation, buy a Mercedes AMG and than you talk (..) bye … with no like snd subscription
Reason number one: Let`s make cars that customers want to buy! Reason number two: A Porsche is not supposed to sound like a Zanussi on spin cycle! I want my Porsche to sound like a.............what`s it called? A PHU@K!NG PORSCHE!!!
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🤔 Is Ford’s latest decision a game-changer for the entire auto industry?
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One does have to look at Toyota...they were called out for being anti EV...smart man Mr Toyoda
Short term yes, they stick with what they do best: cheap cars. In long term they will not survive.
@@johanmeert530c’mon cheap cars not as they built the best quality cars in the market.
Honda too.The onlyEV car they have right now is the prologue and it's made by chevy
I bought a 2023 Tacoma I will never own a Battery operated Toyota
@@claudiodiez55 Never is a very long time, depending on how old you are.
Would you buy a Rolex if it had no mechanism and instead a battery. No. You would not. Porsche powered by a battery has stripped the soul from the car. And thus the core reason for buying one. Depreciation is epic, as no one wants them. So if it's to survive, they need to take the EU on along with other manufacturers.
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The only way to save Porsche is to drop EV manufacturing and go back to being ICE car manufacturing!
Other makes are embracing Hybrids and as a Porsche customer would buy a Taycan with a gas Hybrid but NEVER as a EV toomany limitations with Electrics
The thing with EVs, even a moderate EV has very fast performance…why pay premium for Porsche when you can have same fun with half the money?
@@kalex381 The only REAL PLACE to drive FAST legally is a Race Track because any roads that set a speed limit it is ILLEGAL to exceed the limit set the other point if you lookat the residual prices on EVs it is EYE watering on ALL MAKES. EVs NO Hybrids Yes !
If they stop with EV's they'll have to fire 90% of their staff. Because only the 718 and 911 will remain. You just can't compete with EV's in the SUV market, not long term, not profitable. So Porsche has to become a niche manufacturer again ?
@ that leads to my question….why countries allow for the sale of cars that can exceed the speed limit when it is illegal to so….
The EV transition will drive manufacturing away from legacy brands like Porsche and into China. Porsche is on an especially sticky wicket because it's customer base are petrol heads more than other legacy brands.
Porsche, BMW, Ford... ALL of them! If they truly want to save what's left of their companies, DROP ev's entirely. 😡
у них в совете директоров всем рулят Вангард и Блэк Рок,а марионетки в лице президентов вообще ничего не решают(((((((
Impossible due to governments…
@@cybersurfer2010 They ALL drop ev's & china moves in with its very cheap & fire ravaged range.
Good luck !
@@cybersurfer2010 The DROP government entirey
Yes..like blackberry should have kept making physical keyboards in their phone and the iPhone would not exist today...makes perfect sense
So , you mean to say all these manufacturer's simply assumed the consumer was just gonna jump on the ev bandwagon because the EU told them it would be all good ?.......Interesting.
Not entirely unexpected. The EU demonstrated that same philosophy with Diesel adoption. The politicians are the tail and it's wagging the dog that is the car makers. Politicians make decisions for political, not technical or market considerations. Is it surprising that they get it so wrong? Climate change is a thing, but EVs ore not a better solution than simply improving petrol vehicles. What's next, mandatory Hydrogen? Although there may be some promise in fuel research, the real payoff will come with more efficient combustion engines. Hydrocarbons produce 2.3 times their weight in CO2, it's chemistry -- the exact formulation of the fuel doesn't matter (and no thank you, I do not want to drive around sitting on a tank of compressed hydrogen waiting to go boom -- which despite some truly awe inspiring engineering at Ford with the Pinto just doesn't happen with petrol, which mostly just burns).
I'm going to have to stop watching these vids about EVs. Thinking about it, I've seen and heard all I need to know that the current technology for EVs is moribund at best, and in its death throes the present Lithium ion battery technology will bring down companies of the stature of Stellantis, Ford, VW plus many smaller brands both ICE and EV.
Besides, I will never be able to afford any new car and could no more afford an EV than I could scrape cream cheese off the Moon's surface from my bedroom window.
Governments around the globe have, with their brain-dead nett zero carbon laws, successfully mandated the destruction of their car industries and major employers.
As intended. The government push for EVs is a ruse for mass transit, a fascist scheme to remand private transportation as a novelty for wealthier people, just as it was in the 19th Century and early 20th Century when EVs outsold ICE cars.
уничтожение мирового автопрома и есть конечная цель внедрения зажигательных электромобилей! а цифровизация денег всего что только можно, это уничтожение старого капиталистического мира,вместе со всем человечеством,это же уже с 2020 года должно быть понятно разумным людям)
@@ОлегСмирнов-й7ж It's been clear, to me, for several decades now. In the early 1990s, many US EPA employees and state DMV and EPA employees across America were bragging that they were going to "get people out of their cars and into mass transit." William Yellowtail, who was US EPA Admin for Region 8, didn't mince words at all.
@@DHW256 это только начало!посмотрите сериал Сосны 2015-2016 год,там они показывают смысл всей этой безумной игры,очень вам советую!!!
Sorry but you are completely wrong EV technology is moving at an incredible pace and they’re getting cheaper all the time. Already far more economical, faster, smoother, safer and more reliable than gas. Once charging is fully available it’s the end for ICE vehicles
Does it really take a genius to foresee that the entire EV industry is flawed from the get go? Unbelievable.
They should have researched the customers or potential customers via dealers world wide. I’m pretty sure that as soon as Porsche announced no ice Macans beyond July 2024, pundits went looking elsewhere at other brands. We were disappointed but it certainly made the second hand market light up!
EV’s will be there downfall! & no sympathy if they follow that route…
very basic spelling error- unbelievable. It is their….
Porsche Taycan. For those with more money than sense 😀
Turning once iconic sports cars into overweight ("Please wait") electrical appliances tanking the brand? Who da thunk?
Cars are supposed to evolve not follow change mandated by Governments.
Manufactures that don't control their supply chain are doomed to fail.
Car manufacturers have always made changes mandated by government.
As a long-time 911 enthusiast, I believe it’s time to reassess the EV market’s challenges, especially around value retention.
Luxury EVs, including Lucid, Tesla, BMW, and MBZ, have all seen steep depreciation of ~45% to 50% in their first two years. This issue impacts the entire industry.
The situation may worsen as the Trump administration aims to eliminate the $7,500 federal tax credit for qualified buyers, which would put more pressure on EV sales and market confidence.
Navigating these challenges requires recalibrating expectations and restoring customer trust, something Porsche has long excelled at. I remain committed to supporting that vision.
Porsche does not need to be in the e.V market , it has got a niche in a market that is far largerthen ev's puts out sports cars like no other
Jaguar stopping all production for 2 years. Dropping all their current line . Returning with an all knew ev line. I think they will liquidate and disappear for ever. All for what !!
I think you called it. Thanks for the memories!
Ice ice baby. Woke EVs the downfall of the motor vehicle and industry. Your own fault for listening to the evil obelisk.
BMW’s approach turned out to be quite succesfull. Power of choice. Same platform comes as a petrol, diesel, hybrid and EV.
There is no future for Electric vehicles…the public just don’t want them
Then why do the majority of EV owners say they will never go back to ICE ?
The Macan EV is like New Coke. Expect ICE to be reannounced in 26-27
As an owner of a Porsche Cayenne, I'd like to express a marketing concern I have with Porsche. It seems they've adopted the typical American approach to marketing their vehicles, akin to selling dog food or cosmetics, by forsaking the use of factory numbers for names that seem to lack substance. In my opinion, they haven't mastered this technique, as evidenced by all the current Porsche model names, along with others like Tiguan, Touareg, Passat, and the former Merkur. I understand this is the modern way, yet Porsche had no issues selling models like the 911, 928, 944, or 356. I believe the company should focus more on making PDK replacement parts available to the public rather than on brainstorming names in focus groups. Personally, I refer to my vehicle by its factory number: 955. Bitte.
переход на электроавтомобили может спасти только тех кто лишился окончательно лишился ума)))))))
Porsche is putting internal combustion engines into the Taycan so it should get a lot better.
Isn’t that called a Panamera?
There is no way to install an ICE into a Taycan. Cannot be done. Get a Panamera if you want that.
The future of European car industry is in the hands of politicians. If they maintain the populist green religion we are going to loose more than one major manufacturer and we are going to have huge unemployment especially in Germany.
The concensus was always only about very simple observations. 95% of the green science is not in concensus. It is about populist, narcicist politicians who want to act as altruists but always on other people’s money and fates. They just keep repeting slogans that water is dry.
To all petrol heads. Please try out an EV first before making a judgement. The instant acceleration and power of an EV together with its low center of gravity will put you a big smile into your face!
…and then you drive into your first bend carrying all that additional weight 😢
Absolutely agree! However I still think every model should be offered as EV, hybrid and petrol
Even HUNTER got a PORSCHE with large eight cylinder engine, my friends paid by China...
Porsche is also a victim of the VW group software debacle. They had to delay the Macan by a year! The whole European industry suffers from a dogmatic approach by the EU leading to unrealistic and uneconomical Green Deal measures while forgetting the global automotive market reality. Porsche must foster its core business of combustion engine cars and customers and provide a hybrid version of the Macan.
Short answer: No. without IC engines Porsche is just like every other electric motor. Sorry 😢
Irony, it’s the neofascists and their climate non that is destroying one of the German painter’s iconic brands
That’s an angry man there 😂😂😂😂😂
If Porsche goes 100% electric, they will QUICKLY disappear. Why are most brands reverting back ? They know they would be in great difficulties.
But if they stay with ICE they will also disappear. What do you suggest they do and which brands are reverting back or bringing out new ICE models?
@@jsanders100make pushbikes, and tractors…
Worked for Lamborghini
No brand is reverting. None. They'll have to learn quicker how to be profitable from EV, sure.
@johanmeert530 They won't be profitable before years and years. In the meanwhile, they will have disappeared.
The only solution to be profitable would be to build their cars in china (and put a very small battery in it, probably) but then they would be taxed when entering Europe. In Europe, energy is way too expensive. That's what will kill thousands of companies in the months and years to come. Not only the car industry but many others like BASF in Germany.
@@eldontyrellcorp Porsche sold 150.000 Taycans in 5 years. That's not bad at all. I agree with you that it is the EU that is killing its own industry. Not because of the EV push but because they want it all much too fast. Looking at Germany, the blunder of the century was closing their nuclear plants.
Porsche Taycan't ;p
lease or buy the lease returns used in 3 yrs
E.v=Extreme Vanity.
Clever 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
a good choice for them is just to stay out of EVs, hybrid will make more sense, I just bought not long ago 2018 cayenne with 80k miles on it with an extended warranty for just 22k, they had an original sticker there 73k, love good deals. As for me I love big SUV like qx80 and those cars lose value like crazy
the macan ev design is obviously way way better than the outdated macan ice design. please make an ice version of that ev design.
just stop making ev
And go broke, like Toyota?
Don’t want one or need one. It looks like the US will stop EVs not before time
King Canute tried something similar.
This idea that Ev is the future is the reason for this problem..
Porsche needs to sit down with some engineers from the largest auto maker in the world..........TOYOTA
They actually did that in the 90s
Toyota Engineers helped Porsche to save 911 brand and its reliability.
I want the 1980s 911s back!
as a 993 and macan owner, i will say that EV are the future.
But it will take time. I have the VW ID4
and i love it. The taycan is very expensive.
Lets see how the macan EV will do.
Also expensive , but less then the taycan.
How many cars do you need?
Asking for a friend…
Whilst I agree on the issue of depreciation you are ignoring the issue of regulatory compliance in Europe and the UK. They have no choice but to produce electric cars .
Plus extortionate insurance costs which are way higher than an internal combustion car
All the manufacturer, present in the EU-market, are obligated not to exceed 93 g/km WLTP (around 73 g/km NEDC) in average on registered cars to EU next year (2025). If they exceed, they'll pay 95 Euros for each car and of each CO2 gram they exceed. So if you put, say, 500 000 cars to European market and your fleet's average CO2s are 110 g/km, you end up paying 816 000 000 Euros fines to the European Commission. Now, re-think, if Porsche or any other manufacturer present in the European market, are doing the electrification just because they miscalculated the EV demand on the market.
Only TAYCAN to at least consider is 1-2 year old car with minu 60 percent discount 🙂 And this summs it all...
Need another 986 moment.
Just put a pretending (go faster)noise inside the car job done 😂
I own a 1995 911 I will never own a battery operated car.
The German car industry is done, The EU policies and German focus on high-cost vehicles has killed the industry.
They need to secure batteries cor its over.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 geee what a surprise Porsche 😂😂 Typical EU wokenessss😂😂😂
Sure he can, just keep jacking up the prices when sales drops. It will make up for lost profit. What the hell, 911 is already overpriced, just make the base price USD $400K. That will save them
The answer is very simple: Stop making the stupid EV's !!!
Coming from Porsche Sales at the ground level.... why can't they just offer every car build as EV hybrid and full petrol? Then let your customer base decide and go from there? Is it really this hard? I feel like monkeys are running the show 😂
CEO should be fired, Porsche is a sports car company. They lost their way with this green initiative. Do you see Ferrari going electric
The car manufacturing world ELT made a really poor decision when they just blindly followed EU regulatory requirements. You don’t put all your eggs in one basket. Hybrid should have been the baseline of their change with some EV’s. They are still getting it wrong, it’s not a case of consumers not being ready yet. The product is not the equal of a ICE vehicle, solve that and people will be willing to buy an equal or superior product. Don’t blame consumers look at your product. Good products sell themselves.
20 K ok not 200
Mate, you are talking about 0.2% if the customers impacted by those issues (..) by the way regarding depreciation, buy a Mercedes AMG and than you talk (..) bye … with no like snd subscription
Tie can
suprise
Reason number one: Let`s make cars that customers want to buy!
Reason number two: A Porsche is not supposed to sound like a Zanussi on spin cycle! I want my Porsche to sound like a.............what`s it called?
A PHU@K!NG PORSCHE!!!
going EV is wrong.
no-one wants EV's in this brand.
If they can make a gas car that can out-accelerate my Tesla then I'll buy it.
Fuck the environment!
Porsche is gone.
Good bye
Too many conflicting opinions here, which allow for almost every viewer to take away a viewpoint that they already subscribe to.
Very true, but not as much fun as wildly opposing views 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Macan is next….
Porsche EV prices are too high for what you get and buyers know this