you missed crucial evidence of the ship dragging its anchor! at 17:10 in the video, the ship encounters a 20 meter high sandbank on the sea floor which momentarily slows the ship down to 4 knots as the drag massively increases. after clearing it, it accelerates back to the normal dragging speed of 6-7 knots. the short stop was there to raise the anchor after which the ship continued underway normally. this is a textbook hybrid warfare move that has perfect deniability with tangible effects. (last time this happened they broke the balticconnector gas pipe) also, as you say in the video, some cables are protected under shipping lanes which is also a reason why the anchor most probably did not affect all cables equally
@flyingbot11 At what time did the ship cross this 20m sandbags as I have run the track multiple times and don't see one. The ship does not have to stop to raise an anchor and there is no evidence yet that it was an anchor.
@@wgowshipping There is no explicit evidence of them dragging an anchor but a lot of circumstantial evidence that they did do something. Thanks for your info and updates Sal.
it did not happen in danish water, so we cant acces the ship if we dont have a prove of a crime.. im not sure a accident is a crime.. but that might be why a german canon boat is with the ship today, it might have been in german water it happened it is passing danish water the episode did not happen in dansih water the ancher also have clear damege tranlate some of the danish new story´s they will tell you we have nothing to do with it and we cant do anything about it right now and they have also taken pictures of the ancher
The top tier level of information and knowledge that Sal gives and shows us is just astounding. This takes hours if not days to acquire and assemble for presentation. Sal, you have no equal in this area. Thanks.
Usually yes but on this no. It is proven that this ship did it intentionally. Look at investigation that channel named: ms Suukko II - did about this. It is Finnish sea captain who goes every movement piece by piece through and knows the undersea cables, which of many more they did sever than just two. And the Chinese Ship stops and lifts anchor immediately after the last cable is broken. But before that drags it for 400km.
lol , If you think the Chinese destroyed the cable you are definitely brainwashed ! You probably think Iran want to eliminate trump, Russia blew up Nord Stream 2, The USA are the good guys of the world and elephants can fly . Ask yourself this one question, why would they and what would they have to gain ?
Has Russia or China been caught destroying other countries strategic infrastructure like the USA did with nord stream? I am guessing no. The USA destroyed Germany's future prosperity by destroying the nord stream pipelines. Then tried to frame Russia, did not work. Then they blamed Poland and the Ukraine. How could all of the conclusive and damming evidence against Russia been dismissed and then a smoking gun appear in Polish and Ukraine hands? Do you believe the US or UK would have any problem screwing over their Baltic 'allies' by cutting the two cables in an attempt to frame the Chinese freighter? If I had to put money on it without actual proof or manufactured(CIA approved) proof, I would bet the USA did it.
correct. and, historically, this is exactly how grey zone actions by the RF and PRC have taken place - with just enough not-technically-military force to get the job done, but not so much as to lose deniability - even if everyone knows. that, btw, is the biggest difference between western grey zone actions and RF/PRC ones. The west, especially the US, like to leave no trace. The RF/PRC like to leave 1000 trails of bread crumbs, and then later focus upon and amplifying those following the false trails to obscure the truth. The west: NordStream 2. RF/PRC: radio isotope poisoning.
I want to raise a subject about speed. Yi Peng was going over 10 knots and it's speed dropped to 6 knots very rapidly. I don't think it was because of wind and sea state. And after that full stop (anchor raise) they returned from 6 to 10 knots just like that. Speed change was totally intentional or because of something was dragged in the bottom.
Imagine an entire society based upon that meme where huge obvious things are happening around you but people are only glancing their eyes back at the catastrophe and then back to their immediate task in front of them and saying nothing.
@@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783 I hope that's some kind of joke rather than not understanding how much momentum that ship has with its speed, weight and cargo. It will barely slow down. What might snap is the chain or the anchor itself, which happened in both cases. New New polar bear lost the entire anchor. Yi Peng 3 has a bent anchor.
How are things in Argentina is your economy recovering ? Do the people have hope for the future or has your new president lost the popular support ? We hear very little from Argentina would be great to get your first person thoughts on this.
If you compare AIS data to other vessels you see that all the ships go "dark" in the same area. It's most likely AIS and gps interference. Gps interference is happening in in the area all the time. Also notice how the ship picks up speed after it stops from 7 to 10 knots. There is a moment where the vessel speed goes down to three knots as it almost gets stuck going over "shallow".
@@uploadJ MarineTraffic also uses orbital AIS receivers on satellites and you can see that data if you pay for it. GPS interference is the most likely form of interference. AIS jammers also jamming a satellite receiving AIS would mean that there was a local jammer somewhere in the vicinity. GPS jammers could have been far away and ship GPS antennas are fairly high giving them a far away radio horizon to receive jamming from.
Whether accidental or intentional, it should not IMO be possible for a shipping company to cut a cable without paying for its replacement. If it's intentional then additionally there is a crime, but the damage is damage and repairing it should be considered a liability.
November 23, 0900 UTC: Picking data from Marine Traffic (cool site!), the "Yi Peng 3" is still anchored in the Danish economic zone but just outside Danish territorial waters. The Danish Navy has swapped the "guardian angel", it is now the "Hvidbjørnen", an inspection/coastguard ship. At least since yesterday the German coastguard / federal police ship "Bad Duben" has also been "hanging around".
I'd actually believe that this master was chosen for incompetence, and then some rando on the ship who is an undercover agent dropped the chain. obviously that's just "source: own brain" but the point is to show that there are ways to do this where the most obvious liability points for the RF/PRC come up false. It could have been intentional, and the master could have been oblivious, both at the same time.
If we are talking of New New Polarbear... Then yes it is believable. Incompetent, badly maintained and a history of issues makes you wonder why they are allowed to sail. But as always, correlation does not equal causation.
Hi Sal, thanks for the video and the new section on Yi Peng 3 stopping - on minute 19:15 - you zoom out and show that the mysterious stop was right in front of Karlskrona - the biggest swedisch navy base....😉
Wow, I am Danish and live in Denmark. But I got more info from you than from the Danish authorities, who basically says “no comments” Could the ship have dumped something when it did that mysterious stop? And are somebody looking for that?
This extra info was super informative. The ship just stopped, probably pulling something in that got knocked loose in the waves... A proper sabotage would cut loose the chain on whatever was being dragged and not slow down.
Submarine with a rov, equipped with pincher to cut cables, shadowed the bulk carrier. Signature noise of sub hidden by carrier propeller noise. Carrier stopped to allow submarine to retrieve rov. Submarine waits for next carrier northbound and shadows it out of the area.
@@daviddunkelheit9952 i mean theres no plausible need or method for comms between the two, commercial cargo vessels port calls are readily available and easily tracked by sonar + AIS. would be easy to piggyback without any collaboration.
Thankyou Sal'. Our internet and phone communications are so vulnerable to cable cutting. Glad you gave the British a mention for their quick cable cutting efforts at the start of WW1
The metal of the anchor have been twisted. You can see that in pictures published by Danish media. There have been minimum one Danish warship very close to it since it stopped in Kattegat and last hours also been seeing an additional German warship next to it. That´s highly unusual in Danish waters. If you look at Marine trafficking sites you will see that Both Danish waters and entire Baltic's are cram filled with warships right now,. There is more to this than US media portray.
if nothing else, it certainly speaks a to the expectations of local national leaders. While we can't make concrete statements about what they know in their own heads, we can guess about a few possibilities. For instance, it may be feared that without a visible military presence there may have been opportunistic escalation of damages inflicted by this or other ship. Local leaders may also have some reason to believe that this and other 'grey-zone' attacks on NATO nations are actual shaping attacks which may transition to a hot war at some point soon. There's plenty more suppositions we could test, but those two seem to me the most likely. it even matters little if this all ends up being an unfortunate accident somewhow, as it is plainly clear that local leaders perceive such a uniform intentionality (rightly, imo) to the RF and PRC grey zone actions that any incident involving them or their proxies is treated as intentional at the outset. Knowing how Putin and Xi love to operate, I'm suddenly finding the back of my brain speculating if these NATO national responses are the actual goal of the shaping operations currently taking place, hoping that NATO warships might engage a vessel that can later be asserted to have been a totally innocent peaceful civilian. I could envisage those two leaders using an incident like that as casus belli to escalate hostilities.
@@FoxtrotYouniform Where to begin. I gave your comment a "like". There is no doubt that the Danes have wanted to make sure they were on them, should they try to do something in Danish waters but it were no coincidence the Danish warship came to them so fast. It were hours before that German chancellor were on phone with POOtin, first cable were severed (The Finland-German one) AND I do not think I am wrong when concluding that marine traffic monitoring shows that the ship that fits the bill are Yi Peng 3, furthermore Sweden have had Russian U boat incidents in their waters and the Estonia ferry going down with large casualties under circumstance that to this day are cause for speculation...I feel confident when assuming they have the Baltic Sea pretty well covered with listening equipment at this time, thus most likely been able to listen to what happened in real time. A few hours before first cable were cut the German Chancellor were on the phone with POOtin. No reason to talk to POOtin at this point. His intentions are clear, he wants to wait until his puppet, that should be at Guantanamo IMO, moves into the WH before wanting to talk to anyone. Obama (and UK) "allowed" POOtin to take Crimea and that were a BIG mistake. If you give a dictator a finger, he will go for the arm and if you allow the arm to be taken, then head and body next. IMO there are no way around it. The free world needs to put own boots on the ground in Ukraine ASAP. POOtin are benefiting of USA´s constant free world undermining support for an Israel that now controls an area over 300% larger than their UN recognised borders allow. A nation that breaks UN charter, International law, violate human rights, rules of war and are led by an ICJ deemed war criminal with a global ICC arrest warrant on his head when USA SHOULD defend UN and the UN charter and truly fight the Russian dictator that are an ICJ deemed warcriminal with an ICC global arrest warrant on his head that have taking his nation into an Budapest Memorandum and UN charter, International law breaking war where they violate human rights and rules of war. The US lobby laws that have caused a situation where anyone with money can buy the two parties opinions, from Israel to fossil fuel companies, have short circuited the US democracy and US objectivity and ability to have a moral and ethical coherent stance. Last 60 days USA have been able to pledge over 25 billion taxpayer Dollars and 50 F 16´s to Israel and their illegal activities while peanuts in comparison have been donated to the fight for an independent democratic nation that have been illegally and unprovoked attacked by a rouge dictator trying to get his population to focus on anything but his own mafia extortion of Russia´s assets. USA have become a lame duck and it´s "red lines" hollowed out by it´s own actions and inaction's. USA have used a lot of it´s powers to constantly shield Israels illegalities and many of US allies have since Trump last time were in power have had difficulties taking USA´s words seriously. USA basically have created the power vacuum POOtin navigates in. Explain how it could be that several European nations almost 3 years ago were ready to donate costly (for them with the prices they paid for them and their selling value) F 16´s to Ukraine but USA prevented it for almost 2 years!? While on the surface for years demanding European nations should do more!? Explain why European nations since beginning of the war have been standing in line to buy ammunition from USA so they could donate what they had of it to Ukraine and USA in almost three years have not been able to ramp up existing production facilities to more than 25% of what Russia are producing per month!? AND the prices of the little USA sell have insane mark ups! There is something more than rotten and it are not in the state of Denmark! I think many have difficulties explaining how the party of McCarthyism now are led by a POOtin loving leader. Biden working against free world boots on the ground. Newertheless. This is where we are now. I hope European nations form a coalition of the willing with Australia, Canada, Japan, South Korea and put own boots on the ground in Ukraine very fast. Now it´s not only Russians but also North Koreans that are "unaliving" Europeans in Europe but also either China performing sabotage against critical infrastructure against 4 NATO nation OR POOtin that allows himself to use a Chinese vessel as cover for his sabotage. In reality I believe that this are NATO article 4 and/or 5 territory and then note how this are not in US media. USA have become a lame duck and as said that are the power vacuum POOtin feels he can operate in. History seems to repeat itself. Some thought a certain German leader in the 30´s could be made deals with and American industrialists, like Ford expressed admiration for him...hm hmm, Musk. Last time it took a direct hit a Pearl H for USA to wake up, I hope they learned something by it but do not seem so. Reality are that the longer we wait the higher the cost both in suffering and financially. Americans seems to have the idea they have contributed the most but numbers don´t lie and someone are playing divide and conquer preventing a better world from emerging both when it comes to conflicts and when it comes to transition to the now CHEAPER emission free energy forms mega windmills offer lucky nations like Australia, USA, Canada that subsidise fossil fuels hard with taxpayer money. Are USA a firce for good anymore or are USA in reality placing themselves in same corner as Russia, China, Israel, North Korea. That is the question both POOtin and rest of free world seek an answer to. If USA do not decisively soon finds the right answer to this question a large and maybe final conflict can come. POOtin can rattle all he want but may never doubt if Russia gets pulverised in hours if he fires a single nuke. I conclude that current lack of action in the baltics right now are based on a lame duck USA (and Germany and France) and thus POOtin can become even more emboldened. And the American population in large have NO clue of reality because media are as corrupted as the politics. Innocent people are dying in Gaza and Ukraine and Americans want cheaper gas at the pump. The undemocratic kleptocracy bamboozle in full effect. ONLY POOtin, Xi, Kim Jung Un and Nethanyahu are laughing at this point.
@@Mike-zx1kx that is a heck of a long post, so I wont be able to read and respond fully for a while - busy trying to get my junky chainsaw to run - but I saw it, and I will read it when I can.
@@FoxtrotYouniform Looking forward to your response. Please remember that only a true friend will tell you truth even when it might hurt. An enemy will happily stay silent while one fail. Chop that wood! No one can predict if it will be Indian summer or freezing cold winter anymore.
When you want deniability you don't drag your anchor in the most effective and efficient way to cut the cables. You pick a method that will work but not make it obvious. But their locations at the times of the cuts, their decrease in speed over the cuts, and going dark are quite solid circumstantial evidence of their intentions. The Chinese ship, but with a russian captain is merely further circumstantial evidence. I'm sure the investigators will come across much more. ATACMS was chosen so it could be spoken as "attack 'ems." They have quite the sense of humor in the army. For instance, the TOW missile is documented in army vernacular as "Missile, TOW."
Yeah. Cutting a submarine cable is the equivalent of hitting a bullseye on a quadfold sized dart board. Ships just don't drop anchor in such adverse weather conditions and in such sensitive areas. 🙄 FOHWTBS. 😒
Why might you stop at sea? Why to offload some specialist officers who know what to do. I'm not saying that it happened for sure, it could be a Russian sub easily enough. But at the same time the timing? The pause? Yeah, it looks like they onloaded and offloaded some things to reduce suspicion.
Additionally if the cables were cut, they would have severed data communications. The routers on either end would time-stamp when they lost connection and this can be compared when the vessel was over the cable area.
Probably important to see what other boats and ships were around her during the times when she was stopped without apparent cause. Someone could have delivered/ removed equipment during those times or met her to use her to cover an underwater boat or device from detection. Her 'going dark' after the cable damage will be shown to originate from an electrical "problem" which also deleted all her own data regards her operation. The whole world knows the BS which is going on but nobody is doing anything about it for fear their own shipping will be affected in retaliation. That must change or the BS will continue or worsen. There is no innocence when somebody intentionally does wrong even when their actions are ostensibly legal.
Sam! Love your channel! Short version of my life history. Long been interested in maritime matters. Applied to USMMA in1962 (admittedly as a "back door" try for US Navy line officer commission -- denied for not having 20/20 vision uncorrected which was required at the time). Maintained ongoing interest in maritime affairs as a US Marine Corps officer. Taught "Seapower & Maritime Affairs" at UCLA NROTC 77-81. Retired 1990 (yes, I am a dinosaur!). But love your channel on the current world of maritime goings-on. Hard (but not impossible) to have innocent presence over two cable cuts. Glad the Danes are holding the ship while more investigation is undertaken. Would not be surprised by either result -- unconventional warfare damage or innocent coincident. Please follow up!
I'm guessing "someone" conplained and yt told Sal he had to "fix it" or it would be de-monitized. The chinese and russian ai moderators are picking on everyone. 😖
It is also possible the Yi Peng 3 was a red herring running cover as a distraction for a submarine which was already waiting at depth. All sorts of monkey business could have transpired while the AIS was unavailable.
@@wtmayhew Could be. I was thinking they may have used an ROV and (as they expected to be searched) dropped it and disconnected the cord. The search team should send divers under the ship.
@ My initial thought was ROV too, but a friend pointed out it might be difficult to get rid of the evidence of the rigging and its control system. Coordinating with a submarine might be simpler, only requiring synchronizing clocks to both be in then same location concurrently, though they might have used a hydrophone which could be jettisoned overboard after the operation was completed.
@@wtmayhew You would not even need to synchronize clocks. Just follow the plan. The submarine knows exactly where you are. 🙂 And using a noisy surface vessel to mask a sub would not be a novelty, either. As I posted in the unedited video, I've been on a tug that did just that. But this stopping maneuver does make it look like the ship was getting rid of evidence. Also, notice that they were going 7kts before stopping and 10kts after.
Doubt the ship and its crew are directly involved. It doesn't make sense politically (think about who has beef with Europe right now) and it would be too obvious and unnecessarily complicated for a covert operation. Anyone with a tiny bit of foresight could see that the ship would be stopped, searched and its crew questioned. Why would they let their operatives be captured? Also a 2-nation collaborative effort is a lot more work when doing it alone would've accomplished the same goal.
From my navy experience of the Baltic some forty years ago, it is a busy naval sea, I would guess that a recording of sub sea noises exists, be it one of the local navies or the Brits or Yanks tooling around below.
@@christophmahler not totally useless. I'm sure it picked up our guys laying those explosives perfectly well, but since it is also our guys who run the system what do you expect them to say? btw, yes I think we blew it up, and I also am in favor of having done so. The risk of especially central European leaders failing to respond to the situation at the time was a credible risk, and one with extremely negative global ramifications for the west at large - not just Europe. Nobody knew that the winter of 22/23 would end up mild. The Germans especially were really freaking out about the risk environment they faced with the dual risk of a nearby major war involving a trading partner, and a freezing populace and imploding economy if they supported the victim of aggression by said trading partner. Since the freezing populace and imploding economy were potential consequences of war, a decision to simply avoid supporting the war and thus avoid the consequences could have been very enticing to them. Especially considering that the Germans have a modern cultural bend towards peace, one might be forgiven for thinking that the Germans would rather make concessions than fight.
Fixing undersea cable generally involves adding an extension to it. A robot will fully sever the cable and attach hooks to each side of the cut. One side is lifted to sea level to a cable repair ship where an extension is attached to the cable. The cable is lowered back to seabed (with other end of extension remaining on ship) and the grapple then lifts the other side of severed cable to the ship where it is attached to the other end of the extension cable and then lowered back to seabed leaving a cable that was longer than before due to extension. The deeper the sea, the longer that extension needs to be.
Whatever they used to cut the cables, would they have dropped that in the water somewhere? Was constantly thinking about that watching through the first time. Now with the new section, might that spot be where they dropped it off? But I don't think you would have to stop the whole ship to drop it off...
What do you think about the ship actually being boarded and the crew being arrested? And the fact that they were all russian? Thats a huge part of the story isnt it
@@flowgangsemaudamartoz7062 But crews are also rarely from a single country either. It will be interesting to see what their background is. Any "former" FSB or GRU members etc.
Could be the ship is a distration meant to be in the area of those two cables when they broke to give the appearence of a accidental break while a submarine was down below doing the deed.
Anchor Issues? Sounds like someone needs some counseling. Rough day for the insurers. Thank you for all the details. Probably dropped two suicide diving crews from N Korea with hacksaws.
I was in a "project management two-day course" taught by a man (Ron LaFleur?) who managed the "new" build for a cable layer for the us navy during Johnson's admin (he said it was the only time a ship was built under budget and on schedule; he was actually employed by Raytheon at the time). The ship was to be used to lay a sonar cable system east of Spain to track Russian submarines in the Mediterranean. The man said that the project got canceled by Nixon because someone told Nixon that the Russians only had to drag an anchor across the cables to destroy the system. Nixon liked that story and cancelled the system. I didn't get the story as to "why that's wrong" but the impression the man gave was "that's wrong." Edit: He didn't describe the system or how the ship was laying the cable (buried?). He did say Nixon scrapped the ship (presumably sold to his financial supporters; similar to what happened to all the state of the art new equipment that had been installed at Hunters Point shipyard that Nixon ordered shuttered (security issues), according to the old guard at my shipyard that would have transferred to Hunters Point).
Surely the ship would have had to apply more power to drag the anchor through them cables… maybe the investigators are looking into that on the ship if that kind of data is stored
This is as suspicious as can be. Too many coincidences to not be a deliberate act to damage these cable. It needs to be thoroughly investigated by NATO members using undersea search vessels and if necessary have military escorts for any future use of ships from China, taking cargo from Russia,
@@Tiger313NL I wonder if the whole crew also were Russian... Could I just borrow your boat for a short while...I will provide my own crew? Wouldn't want the Chinese accused of anything would we, mate....?
Perhaps while NATO is down there snooping around they can do a proper investigation of the Nordstream sabotage, but wait, they might find the fingerprints of the US all over it.
This is what I was waiting to hear to confirm Judgement. Russia/ China are in a pickle and need to comply. It requires a Danish pilot for a ship to pass out of the Baltic. Closing Baltic access to Russian /Chinese shipping is the appropriate response.
Thanks for the detailed analysis however their was one major bit of information you missed out, the fact that though the ship is Chinese it's 'skipper was Russian.
Channel named: ms Suukko II - has very thorough video on this topic. It is amazing really. Done by Finnish captain operating in the area. BTW. Severed a lot more than two cables.
lots of zero evidence speculation here, so how about this: "US false flag op to besmirch China in Europe and to distract from other international news" .....calm down, it's "just an idea....zero evidence"
The timing and speed changes are pretty damming evidence that Yi Peng 3 was involved in the cutting of the cables, whether directly by dragging anchor or was covering for submarine. It should be held until seabed has been investigated and worked out possible causes of breaks in cable.
is there a formula to calculate anchor chain dragging degree from shiphull: speed, meters and mass of anchor chain and anchor. 170m deep and 265m of chain makes 40 degrees drag angle
Was the depth of water enough for a submarine craft to be using the Yi Peng as a diversion ? Perhaps Yi Peng forgot to switch of the AIS after cutting Sea Lion one ?
Military plane traffic shows frequent drone surveillance at the border of Poland and Kaliningrad. A lot of Russia's navy departs from Kgrad. Often see Poseidon aircraft in that area too. Watching for anything that gives off rads or coms.
😂Thanks so much for 2 times emphasizing on the P-word in your comment 😂! But true, it comes closest (`st´, please!) to the German spelling. However, the pronunciation of “I” is like second one in e.g. hilarious. Btw, for our friends in the US and other NATO partners: no reason to be P’d-off Boris Pistorius since he is pushing for budget increase and strengthening Germany’s forces and enjoys good reputation; i.e. quite different to the “Bundes-Scholz” (recommendation: don’t use AI for translation to German - it may turn “chancellor” to what I wrote here 😉. Ah, btw, "U" in "Bundes" is pronounced like bully, not bunker 😅). Matter of fact, if BP would apply for chancellor for upcoming elections, he would get the votes from lot of people, leaving OS in black despair finally.
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you missed crucial evidence of the ship dragging its anchor! at 17:10 in the video, the ship encounters a 20 meter high sandbank on the sea floor which momentarily slows the ship down to 4 knots as the drag massively increases. after clearing it, it accelerates back to the normal dragging speed of 6-7 knots.
the short stop was there to raise the anchor after which the ship continued underway normally.
this is a textbook hybrid warfare move that has perfect deniability with tangible effects. (last time this happened they broke the balticconnector gas pipe)
also, as you say in the video, some cables are protected under shipping lanes which is also a reason why the anchor most probably did not affect all cables equally
@flyingbot11 At what time did the ship cross this 20m sandbags as I have run the track multiple times and don't see one.
The ship does not have to stop to raise an anchor and there is no evidence yet that it was an anchor.
@@wgowshipping There is no explicit evidence of them dragging an anchor but a lot of circumstantial evidence that they did do something. Thanks for your info and updates Sal.
it did not happen in danish water, so we cant acces the ship if we dont have a prove of a crime..
im not sure a accident is a crime..
but that might be why a german canon boat is with the ship today, it might have been in german water it happened
it is passing danish water the episode did not happen in dansih water
the ancher also have clear damege
tranlate some of the danish new story´s they will tell you we have nothing to do with it and we cant do anything about it right now
and they have also taken pictures of the ancher
@Hansen710 The International Convention for the Protection of Submarine Telegraph Cables of 1884 allow this.
The top tier level of information and knowledge that Sal gives and shows us is just astounding. This takes hours if not days to acquire and assemble for presentation. Sal, you have no equal in this area. Thanks.
Usually yes but on this no. It is proven that this ship did it intentionally. Look at investigation that channel named: ms Suukko II - did about this. It is Finnish sea captain who goes every movement piece by piece through and knows the undersea cables, which of many more they did sever than just two. And the Chinese Ship stops and lifts anchor immediately after the last cable is broken. But before that drags it for 400km.
Dragging an anchor is a great way to destroy cables, and doing it with a ship with known mechanical issues makes for a fairly decent alibi.
nevermind the combative geopolitics china and russia offer... too many red flags for it not to be intentional.
lol , If you think the Chinese destroyed the cable you are definitely brainwashed ! You probably think Iran want to eliminate trump, Russia blew up Nord Stream 2, The USA are the good guys of the world and elephants can fly . Ask yourself this one question, why would they and what would they have to gain ?
In 150m + deep water? I doubt it.
Has Russia or China been caught destroying other countries strategic infrastructure like the USA did with nord stream? I am guessing no. The USA destroyed Germany's future prosperity by destroying the nord stream pipelines. Then tried to frame Russia, did not work. Then they blamed Poland and the Ukraine. How could all of the conclusive and damming evidence against Russia been dismissed and then a smoking gun appear in Polish and Ukraine hands?
Do you believe the US or UK would have any problem screwing over their Baltic 'allies' by cutting the two cables in an attempt to frame the Chinese freighter?
If I had to put money on it without actual proof or manufactured(CIA approved) proof, I would bet the USA did it.
Not at 500 foot depth . They have them on this one.
Excellent as always.
Being able to share MarineTracker with us is great. Thank you.
I could have sworn you showed the whole route earlier but you didn't mention the full stop. So good edit.
5:39 - You would use the anchor precisely for the reasons that a) it works and b) gives you a variety of excuses
Thankyou came here for this comment.
'Plausible Deniability' in the legal, political and intelligence parlance.
correct. and, historically, this is exactly how grey zone actions by the RF and PRC have taken place - with just enough not-technically-military force to get the job done, but not so much as to lose deniability - even if everyone knows.
that, btw, is the biggest difference between western grey zone actions and RF/PRC ones. The west, especially the US, like to leave no trace. The RF/PRC like to leave 1000 trails of bread crumbs, and then later focus upon and amplifying those following the false trails to obscure the truth.
The west: NordStream 2. RF/PRC: radio isotope poisoning.
Was it not mentioned that the water was too deep for the anchor to reach the bottom in the area of the cable, or was the only in the original version?
like NOrdstream ?
I want to raise a subject about speed. Yi Peng was going over 10 knots and it's speed dropped to 6 knots very rapidly. I don't think it was because of wind and sea state. And after that full stop (anchor raise) they returned from 6 to 10 knots just like that. Speed change was totally intentional or because of something was dragged in the bottom.
Also another ship, Nissos Antimilos, maintained its speed just fine in precisely same area and route and at the same time this ship slowed down.
Exactly, the heading and speed also fluctuates abnormally compared to other ships in the same area, proving that it drags something heavy.
Ships that overtook (sailed past) the Yi Peng 3 noticed that their anchor was dropped and dragging. They also reported it.
Imagine an entire society based upon that meme where huge obvious things are happening around you but people are only glancing their eyes back at the catastrophe and then back to their immediate task in front of them and saying nothing.
My handlers are currently telling me to disagree with you, so……. You’re wrong!
Apparently, they were dragging the anchor over five cables. Missed the 1st one just slightly and did not manage to cut through number three and four.
Wow! How could this be done without sinking the ship from getting caught up?
@@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783 I hope that's some kind of joke rather than not understanding how much momentum that ship has with its speed, weight and cargo. It will barely slow down. What might snap is the chain or the anchor itself, which happened in both cases. New New polar bear lost the entire anchor. Yi Peng 3 has a bent anchor.
Authorities are reporting this already?
Even in 550 ft of water? How long is the chain?
@@danam0228 Not that I've seen. Just some social media accounts. I don't know if this is accurate info or not until authorities confirm it.
Thank you for all the effort you put into making this information available to the wider public outside the shipping industry
Thank you. Sal, the confrontation on the high seas is not good but we wouldn't be able to understand what's happening without you😅
just discovered the channel and watched the last video, now refreshed and saw this one lol. greetings from Argentina!
Oh you're in for a treat. Welcome!
How are things in Argentina is your economy recovering ? Do the people have hope for the future or has your new president lost the popular support ? We hear very little from Argentina would be great to get your first person thoughts on this.
If you compare AIS data to other vessels you see that all the ships go "dark" in the same area. It's most likely AIS and gps interference. Gps interference is happening in in the area all the time. Also notice how the ship picks up speed after it stops from 7 to 10 knots. There is a moment where the vessel speed goes down to three knots as it almost gets stuck going over "shallow".
No AIS receiver in range of the ships likely? Doubtful it is GPS related but IDK I'm not there.
@@uploadJ MarineTraffic also uses orbital AIS receivers on satellites and you can see that data if you pay for it. GPS interference is the most likely form of interference. AIS jammers also jamming a satellite receiving AIS would mean that there was a local jammer somewhere in the vicinity. GPS jammers could have been far away and ship GPS antennas are fairly high giving them a far away radio horizon to receive jamming from.
Whether accidental or intentional, it should not IMO be possible for a shipping company to cut a cable without paying for its replacement. If it's intentional then additionally there is a crime, but the damage is damage and repairing it should be considered a liability.
November 23, 0900 UTC: Picking data from Marine Traffic (cool site!), the "Yi Peng 3" is still anchored in the Danish economic zone but just outside Danish territorial waters. The Danish Navy has swapped the "guardian angel", it is now the "Hvidbjørnen", an inspection/coastguard ship. At least since yesterday the German coastguard / federal police ship "Bad Duben" has also been "hanging around".
Funny you did nothing like that about nordstream... EAT NO GASS AND NO DATA
Thanks for explaining the legal parts of detaining ships of other countries and charts of underwater cables.
Hard to believe that a competent master wouldn't realize he was dragging his anchor.
Dragging anchor while travelling at basically max speed for the conditions over a wildly variable depth with good apparent turning authority
I'd actually believe that this master was chosen for incompetence, and then some rando on the ship who is an undercover agent dropped the chain. obviously that's just "source: own brain" but the point is to show that there are ways to do this where the most obvious liability points for the RF/PRC come up false. It could have been intentional, and the master could have been oblivious, both at the same time.
I hate when I drag my anchor!
If we are talking of New New Polarbear... Then yes it is believable.
Incompetent, badly maintained and a history of issues makes you wonder why they are allowed to sail.
But as always, correlation does not equal causation.
and speed was unaffected by the anchor until catching the cables.....
Thank you, Sal. I watched and the earlier video with interest and appreciate the addendum.
Sorry for the error. I must have passed the video and not restarted it.
Hi Sal, thanks for the video and the new section on Yi Peng 3 stopping - on minute 19:15 - you zoom out and show that the mysterious stop was right in front of Karlskrona - the biggest swedisch navy base....😉
Facts!! Thanks mate, keep up the great work...stay safe!
"You broke my cables"... Yi Peng 3 replies..."You scratched my anchor" (in Dangerfield voice).
Thanks Sal. Great report.
Wow, I am Danish and live in Denmark. But I got more info from you than from the Danish authorities, who basically says “no comments”
Could the ship have dumped something when it did that mysterious stop? And are somebody looking for that?
I would assume a vessel with very good side-scan sonar will be taking a close look at that location.
Thats a lot of ocean floor to search an likely a very small target to find. Possible but not an easy task.
Sal, Any news of the US sabotage of the Russian gas pipeline in the Baltic?
Your government has not received their talking points from the US embassy yet, I would guess.
Is there tangible evidence that communication cables were damaged ? Has Danish internet/ communications suffered from restrictions for users ?
Rewatching the video 😀👍
My guess you can't even tell us what yt had a "problem" with ... read show notes: revised section 17:33 to 19:38
This extra info was super informative. The ship just stopped, probably pulling something in that got knocked loose in the waves... A proper sabotage would cut loose the chain on whatever was being dragged and not slow down.
Thank you
Good of you to not jump to any conclusions, Sal. Will be very interesting to learn the result(s) of the investigation(s)
Thanks for the update Sal. Very interesting
Very interesting, informative video.
Submarine with a rov, equipped with pincher to cut cables, shadowed the bulk carrier. Signature noise of sub hidden by carrier propeller noise. Carrier stopped to allow submarine to retrieve rov. Submarine waits for next carrier northbound and shadows it out of the area.
That sounds like a very complex operation, but it's crazy enough to be true these days
Sounds plausible to me.
Probably didn’t have communication between the ship and sub just synchronized timing so that there wasn’t entries in log.
@@daviddunkelheit9952 i mean theres no plausible need or method for comms between the two, commercial cargo vessels port calls are readily available and easily tracked by sonar + AIS. would be easy to piggyback without any collaboration.
OK Tom Clancy
Where did you learn this?
Seems like the sort of solid two unlimited friends would do for each other.
China is not at war with anybody.
@@filmbuffo5616 So?
@@filmbuffo5616Every country has international affairs, doesnt need to be war.
@@filmbuffo5616
but it's unlimited friend is
Sorta like committing a genocide you mean ?
Thankyou Sal'. Our internet and phone communications are so vulnerable to cable cutting. Glad you gave the British a mention for their quick cable cutting efforts at the start of WW1
Two in one day - Great. Thanks for the update!
So you'd say that Denmark isn't going to "LEGO" of that vessel? 😂
Lego, in danish, means "play good", so this might be some rough and tumble play here :p
This comment deserves more appreciation
@@TimRobertsen Play hard.
Nice.
Too bad the ship is called "Eggo". :)
The metal of the anchor have been twisted. You can see that in pictures published by Danish media. There have been minimum one Danish warship very close to it since it stopped in Kattegat and last hours also been seeing an additional German warship next to it. That´s highly unusual in Danish waters. If you look at Marine trafficking sites you will see that Both Danish waters and entire Baltic's are cram filled with warships right now,. There is more to this than US media portray.
if nothing else, it certainly speaks a to the expectations of local national leaders. While we can't make concrete statements about what they know in their own heads, we can guess about a few possibilities. For instance, it may be feared that without a visible military presence there may have been opportunistic escalation of damages inflicted by this or other ship. Local leaders may also have some reason to believe that this and other 'grey-zone' attacks on NATO nations are actual shaping attacks which may transition to a hot war at some point soon. There's plenty more suppositions we could test, but those two seem to me the most likely.
it even matters little if this all ends up being an unfortunate accident somewhow, as it is plainly clear that local leaders perceive such a uniform intentionality (rightly, imo) to the RF and PRC grey zone actions that any incident involving them or their proxies is treated as intentional at the outset.
Knowing how Putin and Xi love to operate, I'm suddenly finding the back of my brain speculating if these NATO national responses are the actual goal of the shaping operations currently taking place, hoping that NATO warships might engage a vessel that can later be asserted to have been a totally innocent peaceful civilian. I could envisage those two leaders using an incident like that as casus belli to escalate hostilities.
@@FoxtrotYouniform Where to begin. I gave your comment a "like". There is no doubt that the Danes have wanted to make sure they were on them, should they try to do something in Danish waters but it were no coincidence the Danish warship came to them so fast. It were hours before that German chancellor were on phone with POOtin, first cable were severed (The Finland-German one) AND I do not think I am wrong when concluding that marine traffic monitoring shows that the ship that fits the bill are Yi Peng 3, furthermore Sweden have had Russian U boat incidents in their waters and the Estonia ferry going down with large casualties under circumstance that to this day are cause for speculation...I feel confident when assuming they have the Baltic Sea pretty well covered with listening equipment at this time, thus most likely been able to listen to what happened in real time.
A few hours before first cable were cut the German Chancellor were on the phone with POOtin. No reason to talk to POOtin at this point. His intentions are clear, he wants to wait until his puppet, that should be at Guantanamo IMO, moves into the WH before wanting to talk to anyone.
Obama (and UK) "allowed" POOtin to take Crimea and that were a BIG mistake. If you give a dictator a finger, he will go for the arm and if you allow the arm to be taken, then head and body next. IMO there are no way around it. The free world needs to put own boots on the ground in Ukraine ASAP. POOtin are benefiting of USA´s constant free world undermining support for an Israel that now controls an area over 300% larger than their UN recognised borders allow. A nation that breaks UN charter, International law, violate human rights, rules of war and are led by an ICJ deemed war criminal with a global ICC arrest warrant on his head when USA SHOULD defend UN and the UN charter and truly fight the Russian dictator that are an ICJ deemed warcriminal with an ICC global arrest warrant on his head that have taking his nation into an Budapest Memorandum and UN charter, International law breaking war where they violate human rights and rules of war. The US lobby laws that have caused a situation where anyone with money can buy the two parties opinions, from Israel to fossil fuel companies, have short circuited the US democracy and US objectivity and ability to have a moral and ethical coherent stance. Last 60 days USA have been able to pledge over 25 billion taxpayer Dollars and 50 F 16´s to Israel and their illegal activities while peanuts in comparison have been donated to the fight for an independent democratic nation that have been illegally and unprovoked attacked by a rouge dictator trying to get his population to focus on anything but his own mafia extortion of Russia´s assets. USA have become a lame duck and it´s "red lines" hollowed out by it´s own actions and inaction's. USA have used a lot of it´s powers to constantly shield Israels illegalities and many of US allies have since Trump last time were in power have had difficulties taking USA´s words seriously. USA basically have created the power vacuum POOtin navigates in. Explain how it could be that several European nations almost 3 years ago were ready to donate costly (for them with the prices they paid for them and their selling value) F 16´s to Ukraine but USA prevented it for almost 2 years!? While on the surface for years demanding European nations should do more!? Explain why European nations since beginning of the war have been standing in line to buy ammunition from USA so they could donate what they had of it to Ukraine and USA in almost three years have not been able to ramp up existing production facilities to more than 25% of what Russia are producing per month!? AND the prices of the little USA sell have insane mark ups! There is something more than rotten and it are not in the state of Denmark! I think many have difficulties explaining how the party of McCarthyism now are led by a POOtin loving leader. Biden working against free world boots on the ground.
Newertheless. This is where we are now. I hope European nations form a coalition of the willing with Australia, Canada, Japan, South Korea and put own boots on the ground in Ukraine very fast. Now it´s not only Russians but also North Koreans that are "unaliving" Europeans in Europe but also either China performing sabotage against critical infrastructure against 4 NATO nation OR POOtin that allows himself to use a Chinese vessel as cover for his sabotage. In reality I believe that this are NATO article 4 and/or 5 territory and then note how this are not in US media. USA have become a lame duck and as said that are the power vacuum POOtin feels he can operate in. History seems to repeat itself. Some thought a certain German leader in the 30´s could be made deals with and American industrialists, like Ford expressed admiration for him...hm hmm, Musk. Last time it took a direct hit a Pearl H for USA to wake up, I hope they learned something by it but do not seem so. Reality are that the longer we wait the higher the cost both in suffering and financially. Americans seems to have the idea they have contributed the most but numbers don´t lie and someone are playing divide and conquer preventing a better world from emerging both when it comes to conflicts and when it comes to transition to the now CHEAPER emission free energy forms mega windmills offer lucky nations like Australia, USA, Canada that subsidise fossil fuels hard with taxpayer money. Are USA a firce for good anymore or are USA in reality placing themselves in same corner as Russia, China, Israel, North Korea. That is the question both POOtin and rest of free world seek an answer to. If USA do not decisively soon finds the right answer to this question a large and maybe final conflict can come. POOtin can rattle all he want but may never doubt if Russia gets pulverised in hours if he fires a single nuke. I conclude that current lack of action in the baltics right now are based on a lame duck USA (and Germany and France) and thus POOtin can become even more emboldened. And the American population in large have NO clue of reality because media are as corrupted as the politics. Innocent people are dying in Gaza and Ukraine and Americans want cheaper gas at the pump. The undemocratic kleptocracy bamboozle in full effect. ONLY POOtin, Xi, Kim Jung Un and Nethanyahu are laughing at this point.
@@Mike-zx1kx that is a heck of a long post, so I wont be able to read and respond fully for a while - busy trying to get my junky chainsaw to run - but I saw it, and I will read it when I can.
@@FoxtrotYouniform Looking forward to your response. Please remember that only a true friend will tell you truth even when it might hurt. An enemy will happily stay silent while one fail. Chop that wood! No one can predict if it will be Indian summer or freezing cold winter anymore.
@@Mike-zx1kx Um, does everyone just forget 10 month 7th day of 2023 event?
They dragged the anchor for 400km. You can find info about this if you search
Shoutout to whoever made the chain!
Apparently 5 other or 5 total cables show damage. So they were busy busy bad boys.
When you want deniability you don't drag your anchor in the most effective and efficient way to cut the cables. You pick a method that will work but not make it obvious. But their locations at the times of the cuts, their decrease in speed over the cuts, and going dark are quite solid circumstantial evidence of their intentions. The Chinese ship, but with a russian captain is merely further circumstantial evidence. I'm sure the investigators will come across much more.
ATACMS was chosen so it could be spoken as "attack 'ems." They have quite the sense of humor in the army. For instance, the TOW missile is documented in army vernacular as "Missile, TOW."
Yeah. Cutting a submarine cable is the equivalent of hitting a bullseye on a quadfold sized dart board.
Ships just don't drop anchor in such adverse weather conditions and in such sensitive areas. 🙄
FOHWTBS. 😒
Why might you stop at sea? Why to offload some specialist officers who know what to do.
I'm not saying that it happened for sure, it could be a Russian sub easily enough. But at the same time the timing? The pause? Yeah, it looks like they onloaded and offloaded some things to reduce suspicion.
Additionally if the cables were cut, they would have severed data communications. The routers on either end would time-stamp when they lost connection and this can be compared when the vessel was over the cable area.
That’s how they worked out the ship.
Crazy triangle path the ship took makes it look obvious
TOW = Tube-launched Optically-Tracked Wire-Guided
(Missile)
Thanks for info
Thanks again Sal
Great informative video !
Thanks for the information
Probably important to see what other boats and ships were around her during the times when she was stopped without apparent cause. Someone could have delivered/ removed equipment during those times or met her to use her to cover an underwater boat or device from detection. Her 'going dark' after the cable damage will be shown to originate from an electrical "problem" which also deleted all her own data regards her operation.
The whole world knows the BS which is going on but nobody is doing anything about it for fear their own shipping will be affected in retaliation. That must change or the BS will continue or worsen. There is no innocence when somebody intentionally does wrong even when their actions are ostensibly legal.
You are right about fear of retaliation. The largest container shipping company Danish Maersk Line has deep cooperation with China
THANKS PROF SAL YOU DA MAN
Looks like dragging an anchor is being adopted as the next strategically weaponized new thing.
Yes, bombs are out. It caused the US too many problems, they have to try something new.
Interesting , Thank You
Sam! Love your channel! Short version of my life history. Long been interested in maritime matters. Applied to USMMA in1962 (admittedly as a "back door" try for US Navy line officer commission -- denied for not having 20/20 vision uncorrected which was required at the time). Maintained ongoing interest in maritime affairs as a US Marine Corps officer. Taught "Seapower & Maritime Affairs" at UCLA NROTC 77-81. Retired 1990 (yes, I am a dinosaur!). But love your channel on the current world of maritime goings-on. Hard (but not impossible) to have innocent presence over two cable cuts. Glad the Danes are holding the ship while more investigation is undertaken. Would not be surprised by either result -- unconventional warfare damage or innocent coincident. Please follow up!
Wow Sal! Fantastic detail. Imagine if we can no longer trust Chinese cargo ships??
Don’t allow them port access ~ that will solve the problem very quickly
Excellent explanation. Thank you!
Interesting video, thanks for posting!
You called it, Sal: the strategic competition intensifies. Scary stuff. o/
Very informative.
I'm not sure how accurate it is, or what difference it makes, but some outlets are reporting that the skipper of the Yi Peng is Russian.
@@gerryjamesedwards1227 🤔
I read the caption of the ship is a russian
What I was reading was that the pilot was Russian and captain was in fact Chinese. We will just need to wait and see what was the case.
maybe both-dual
It would be interesting to correlate air traffic and port radar at the vessel's anchorages with this data. Great report.
I watched this a few hours ago! What’s up?
I'm guessing "someone" conplained and yt told Sal he had to "fix it" or it would be de-monitized. The chinese and russian ai moderators are picking on everyone. 😖
Revised section 17:33 to 19:38
@@sumiland6445 tldr on what the difference was in the revised upload?
Having major Déjà vu
@@fyt54321Ship came to a complete stop and sat there a bit.
Good tracking on Yi Peng 3. Lots of information there.
gonna take a ride into .....the DANISH ZONE!
Lol
sounds like a run to the local pastry shop 😆
@FoxtrotYouniform Danish pastries are, in fact, Russian pastries known as pirozhky. From St. Petersburg.
The period that she went dark would correspond quite well with being relatively close to Kalingrad….
Thank you this was a eye opener in warfare, not that this was warfare i just never thought about this potential.
Possible explanation why they delayed leaving port was to change crew
Reportedly it had a Russian captain on board at time of severs.
Possibly also an all Russian crew.........can't blame China if China lends a mate a boat now can you?
thank you Sal
Reminds me of.
You sunk my battle ship!!
Once again, Doctor Sal, you bring clarity and precision to a murky story. Thank you!
Nazi avatar.
Good information Sal
As an FYI, ATACMS is pronounced "Attack'ems". Great info Sal!
For repeat viewers, Sal's addendum to this video starts at 17:35.
I have it noted in the description and there is a chapter break for it.
They may have stopped to allow the crew to release the equipment under the ship used for cutting. Good place to look.
It is also possible the Yi Peng 3 was a red herring running cover as a distraction for a submarine which was already waiting at depth. All sorts of monkey business could have transpired while the AIS was unavailable.
@@wtmayhew Could be. I was thinking they may have used an ROV and (as they expected to be searched) dropped it and disconnected the cord. The search team should send divers under the ship.
@ My initial thought was ROV too, but a friend pointed out it might be difficult to get rid of the evidence of the rigging and its control system. Coordinating with a submarine might be simpler, only requiring synchronizing clocks to both be in then same location concurrently, though they might have used a hydrophone which could be jettisoned overboard after the operation was completed.
@@wtmayhew You would not even need to synchronize clocks. Just follow the plan. The submarine knows exactly where you are. 🙂
And using a noisy surface vessel to mask a sub would not be a novelty, either. As I posted in the unedited video, I've been on a tug that did just that.
But this stopping maneuver does make it look like the ship was getting rid of evidence. Also, notice that they were going 7kts before stopping and 10kts after.
Doubt the ship and its crew are directly involved. It doesn't make sense politically (think about who has beef with Europe right now) and it would be too obvious and unnecessarily complicated for a covert operation. Anyone with a tiny bit of foresight could see that the ship would be stopped, searched and its crew questioned. Why would they let their operatives be captured? Also a 2-nation collaborative effort is a lot more work when doing it alone would've accomplished the same goal.
From my navy experience of the Baltic some forty years ago, it is a busy naval sea, I would guess that a recording of sub sea noises exists, be it one of the local navies or the Brits or Yanks tooling around below.
SOSUS is the system of submarine microphones… don’t know how much of that is in the Baltic. Mostly in the Atlantic.
Totally useless in the case of Nordstream...
@@christophmahler not totally useless. I'm sure it picked up our guys laying those explosives perfectly well, but since it is also our guys who run the system what do you expect them to say? btw, yes I think we blew it up, and I also am in favor of having done so. The risk of especially central European leaders failing to respond to the situation at the time was a credible risk, and one with extremely negative global ramifications for the west at large - not just Europe. Nobody knew that the winter of 22/23 would end up mild. The Germans especially were really freaking out about the risk environment they faced with the dual risk of a nearby major war involving a trading partner, and a freezing populace and imploding economy if they supported the victim of aggression by said trading partner. Since the freezing populace and imploding economy were potential consequences of war, a decision to simply avoid supporting the war and thus avoid the consequences could have been very enticing to them. Especially considering that the Germans have a modern cultural bend towards peace, one might be forgiven for thinking that the Germans would rather make concessions than fight.
I think you already got to it😉
The addendum is at 18:20
Thanks! You even worked in the Bab el Mandeb, so of course I had to drink!
Fixing undersea cable generally involves adding an extension to it. A robot will fully sever the cable and attach hooks to each side of the cut. One side is lifted to sea level to a cable repair ship where an extension is attached to the cable. The cable is lowered back to seabed (with other end of extension remaining on ship) and the grapple then lifts the other side of severed cable to the ship where it is attached to the other end of the extension cable and then lowered back to seabed leaving a cable that was longer than before due to extension. The deeper the sea, the longer that extension needs to be.
😮😮😮, Thanks Sal, Always Appreciate You 😊
Whatever they used to cut the cables, would they have dropped that in the water somewhere? Was constantly thinking about that watching through the first time. Now with the new section, might that spot be where they dropped it off? But I don't think you would have to stop the whole ship to drop it off...
Nice work bud .
From non maritime guy its very interesting l have never seen these systems.
TKS
What do you think about the ship actually being boarded and the crew being arrested? And the fact that they were all russian? Thats a huge part of the story isnt it
That certainly suggests responsibility.
Doesnt tell you anything at all, since ship crews are often not from the same country like the ship they are on.
@@flowgangsemaudamartoz7062ok comrade
@@flowgangsemaudamartoz7062 But crews are also rarely from a single country either. It will be interesting to see what their background is. Any "former" FSB or GRU members etc.
Could be the ship is a distration meant to be in the area of those two cables when they broke to give the appearence of a accidental break while a submarine was down below doing the deed.
The captain/crew cannot have been unaware that the anchor was dropped. The chain has made a lot of noise against the side of the ship
There are people up there as well.
Anchor Issues? Sounds like someone needs some counseling. Rough day for the insurers. Thank you for all the details. Probably dropped two suicide diving crews from N Korea with hacksaws.
Interesting.good video
From what I have read, the master of Yi Peng 3 is Russian.
I stayed at a holiday inn last night.
I was in a "project management two-day course" taught by a man (Ron LaFleur?) who managed the "new" build for a cable layer for the us navy during Johnson's admin (he said it was the only time a ship was built under budget and on schedule; he was actually employed by Raytheon at the time). The ship was to be used to lay a sonar cable system east of Spain to track Russian submarines in the Mediterranean. The man said that the project got canceled by Nixon because someone told Nixon that the Russians only had to drag an anchor across the cables to destroy the system. Nixon liked that story and cancelled the system. I didn't get the story as to "why that's wrong" but the impression the man gave was "that's wrong."
Edit: He didn't describe the system or how the ship was laying the cable (buried?). He did say Nixon scrapped the ship (presumably sold to his financial supporters; similar to what happened to all the state of the art new equipment that had been installed at Hunters Point shipyard that Nixon ordered shuttered (security issues), according to the old guard at my shipyard that would have transferred to Hunters Point).
Maybe the initial movement between berth was to connect the trailing vessel utilized to snag the cables? Possibly a remote sub?
12:45 One can always check the weather data and get exact information on wind and waves.
Surely the ship would have had to apply more power to drag the anchor through them cables… maybe the investigators are looking into that on the ship if that kind of data is stored
Really interesting turn of events.
You hate our west coast weather? The weather of my people? Be kind Sal. Also love this channel and the unique perspective you bring. Thx!
This is as suspicious as can be. Too many coincidences to not be a deliberate act to damage these cable. It needs to be thoroughly investigated by NATO members using undersea search vessels and if necessary have military escorts for any future use of ships from China, taking cargo from Russia,
Lol good luck with that
Better yet: apparently the ship's master is a Russian national.
@@Tiger313NL
I wonder if the whole crew also were Russian...
Could I just borrow your boat for a short while...I will provide my own crew?
Wouldn't want the Chinese accused of anything would we, mate....?
Perhaps while NATO is down there snooping around they can do a proper investigation of the Nordstream sabotage, but wait, they might find the fingerprints of the US all over it.
This is what I was waiting to hear to confirm Judgement. Russia/ China are in a pickle and need to comply. It requires a Danish pilot for a ship to pass out of the Baltic. Closing Baltic access to Russian /Chinese shipping is the appropriate response.
Thanks for the detailed analysis however their was one major bit of information you missed out, the fact that though the ship is Chinese it's 'skipper was Russian.
It is pronunced Port Sigh-eed
Dropping anchor at that speed, apart from being very unwise, is a bloody noisy occurrence !
Channel named: ms Suukko II - has very thorough video on this topic. It is amazing really. Done by Finnish captain operating in the area. BTW. Severed a lot more than two cables.
And the scenario deepens…
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Watched the second time. Thanks!
Wondering about a submarine using the bulk carrier for camouflage.
Just an idea... zero evidence.
lots of zero evidence speculation here, so how about this: "US false flag op to besmirch China in Europe and to distract from other international news" .....calm down, it's "just an idea....zero evidence"
The timing and speed changes are pretty damming evidence that Yi Peng 3 was involved in the cutting of the cables, whether directly by dragging anchor or was covering for submarine. It should be held until seabed has been investigated and worked out possible causes of breaks in cable.
is there a formula to calculate anchor chain dragging degree from shiphull: speed, meters and mass of anchor chain and anchor. 170m deep and 265m of chain makes 40 degrees drag angle
I am sure there is, but no one that seafarers would ever use.
Was the depth of water enough for a submarine craft to be using the Yi Peng as a diversion ? Perhaps Yi Peng forgot to switch of the AIS after cutting Sea Lion one ?
Sum Ting Wong?
That's the captain.
The ATC/plane at SF 😂
Ho Lee Fuk
@@hoots187 Hahaha when is Sum Ting NOT Wong there?
Might have been Won Hung Lo😂
Military plane traffic shows frequent drone surveillance at the border of Poland and Kaliningrad. A lot of Russia's navy departs from Kgrad. Often see Poseidon aircraft in that area too. Watching for anything that gives off rads or coms.
Congrats on the great escape!
The German defense minister is called Boris Pistorius (pronounciation: "Pissed or I us"), not Boris "Pissed Ross".
😂Thanks so much for 2 times emphasizing on the P-word in your comment 😂! But true, it comes closest (`st´, please!) to the German spelling. However, the pronunciation of “I” is like second one in e.g. hilarious.
Btw, for our friends in the US and other NATO partners: no reason to be P’d-off Boris Pistorius since he is pushing for budget increase and strengthening Germany’s forces and enjoys good reputation; i.e. quite different to the “Bundes-Scholz” (recommendation: don’t use AI for translation to German - it may turn “chancellor” to what I wrote here 😉. Ah, btw, "U" in "Bundes" is pronounced like bully, not bunker 😅). Matter of fact, if BP would apply for chancellor for upcoming elections, he would get the votes from lot of people, leaving OS in black despair finally.
Busting Baltic Bandwith is wild