Watch the Kohler Automatic Choke in Action! Fix it Tips!

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2017
  • If the choke plate on your Kohler Courage is stuck shut, your mower will likely stall out as it warms up. If the choke plate is stuck open, your mower will likely be hard or impossible to start when cold.
    In this video I will show you what to look for in keeping the auto choke working smoothly. Also, we'll speed up the video and watch the auto choke operating as it should.
    If you need to order a new auto choke arm assembly for your Kohler Courage, here's a link you can use: amzn.to/2x36JCP (affiliate).
    Thank you for watching. Please feel free to leave a comment or question, if you have one. Subscribe to my channel for more small engine videos, plus other riveting stuff!
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Комментарии • 180

  • @stevedesmond6881
    @stevedesmond6881 9 месяцев назад +3

    Ive had a love and hate relationship with this engine for the better part of 11 years now. Same issues as everyone else seems to have with the carb/choke. Everything runs tip top and then boom. Theres that one day when it all falls apart. Just give me the old school manual choke back

    • @Demoralized88
      @Demoralized88 Месяц назад

      I just got a used mower w/ the Kohler XT-7 and it runs great with the choke disconnected and left fully open. Only difference is a few pulls for initial cold starting and saves a lot of potential problems w/ all auto-choke systems

  • @jackd.ripper7613
    @jackd.ripper7613 4 года назад +1

    Wow. I thought I'd fixed my carb, but then it started doing exactly this. Now I know the problem, it's an easy fix. I think you saved me about $50.

  • @johnderbabian6198
    @johnderbabian6198 Месяц назад

    Excellent video. That was my exact problem. Choke was all gummed up and would not, in my case, close. Thanks for the info. I was able to fix my 6021P!

  • @ryanybos
    @ryanybos 4 года назад

    Thank you for the very clear explanation of the Auto Choke feature Buckwsr

  • @1towgunner
    @1towgunner 3 года назад

    Thank You. Mine is fluctuating so I suspect it's that part. Your video was a big help.

  • @FabioAS
    @FabioAS 5 лет назад

    Good explaining, mine got that primer bulb. Have a great day.

  • @brockmcconnell217
    @brockmcconnell217 4 года назад

    Good advice,Buck. Got to get into springs on carb. Not many but troublesome

  • @weechitamex
    @weechitamex 4 года назад +2

    Buckwsr : THANK YOU SIR . I WILL CHECK IT OUT AS I REPAIR FRIENDS MOWER WONT START PROBLEMS . BEST BLESSINGS TO YOU .

  • @Akula114
    @Akula114 4 года назад +5

    Darned well-done video! You filmed this in the perfect soft light to see detail without stuff being too dark or bright. The time-lapse was so well done, I couldn't see it even happening. During that part, you can really see why I feel tripods are VITAL for more professional-looking videos. Sure, handheld is needed sometimes, but generally getting a nice steady shot is far easier on the viewer.
    Again, superb job! Thanks so much! (Oh, forgot to mention that it is great to see a clean mower! I'm always anal about that when I do any repair, and it's never come back to bite me. If I don't clean it now, I'll get all the nastier the next time I try to make a repair).

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  4 года назад

      Thanks for the note and kind words.

    • @harryglotz3528
      @harryglotz3528 Год назад

      The vacuum choke brake is bad usually not the linkage

  • @iNeverHadMercy
    @iNeverHadMercy Год назад

    Great explanation and demo. This engine is built to last but like ALL things "man-made" it requires maintenance

  • @thomasgarrity2226
    @thomasgarrity2226 3 года назад

    Entertaining voice and knowledge power for laymen. Thanks

  • @Zoofactory
    @Zoofactory 4 года назад

    I’m less ignorant.Thank you. I do have revs going low to high to low to high to low... You get the picture. I don’t know enough about carburetors to determine if I need to take it apart further. Sure there is a video for it. Kohler 6.75 149 cc. Despite my issue, this is the best demo I’ve ever been able to see and understand in layman’s terms. So thanks. - Chris In Kalamazoo

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  4 года назад

      Thanks for the note, Chris. A surging engine may require a thorough carburetor cleaning, or, as is sometimes easier, a carburetor replacement. Yes, there are plenty of videos out there on how to clean a carburetor. Good luck.

  • @HackMasterBlaster
    @HackMasterBlaster 5 лет назад +3

    Thanks for the video. Just solved my problem

  • @JavaRatusso
    @JavaRatusso 4 года назад +2

    Great demonstration Buck.. Thanks a lot. I've got to delve into one that has set up a long long time.

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  4 года назад +1

      Thank you, and good luck with your mower!

    • @JavaRatusso
      @JavaRatusso 4 года назад

      @@Buckwsr That was it! After sittin' for more than a decade... Now it's purring like a kitten! Flushed the carb and freed up the sticking choke... Voila.... Your video was spot on!

  • @rickbales1880
    @rickbales1880 2 года назад

    Thanks for this video. Just bought a used lawn-boy with this motor in it.

  • @RayCarney-r9c
    @RayCarney-r9c 14 дней назад

    Really well done vid. Thank you.

  • @gabrieljmification
    @gabrieljmification Год назад

    Excellent demonstration, thank u.

  • @seanseanseanseansean
    @seanseanseanseansean 6 лет назад

    These videos are educational. My mowers are always taking turns not starting.

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  6 лет назад +1

      Well, that's better than them all breaking down at the same time....

  • @bilbobaggins5704
    @bilbobaggins5704 Год назад

    Thanks for posting this. It helps greatly.

  • @jacksonsinflatablechannel
    @jacksonsinflatablechannel 6 лет назад +1

    This is very helpful thanks for the vid

  • @walterbobruk2310
    @walterbobruk2310 3 года назад +1

    just the video I needed.... clean this area on the carb at the beginning of each season of use and every 3 months and it will not happen.. encrusted old dry grass will keep it from opening fully and you get a rich fuel mixture and carbon fouled plugs... or closing properly and causing a hard or no start,

  • @robertawhitfield2414
    @robertawhitfield2414 4 года назад +2

    Very helpful, thanks !!!

  • @bryansullo9798
    @bryansullo9798 5 лет назад +2

    Thank you! Solved my problem. I never would have figured this out on my own.

  • @dorsey1966
    @dorsey1966 5 дней назад

    thanks for the quick video

  • @mustang73648
    @mustang73648 Год назад

    Thank you for this helpful video

  • @JasonSmith-qx3zh
    @JasonSmith-qx3zh 2 года назад

    I see you fixing that cut off valve tightness great vid and job!

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  2 года назад

      Thank you, Sir

  • @NavneetSingh-os7ve
    @NavneetSingh-os7ve 2 года назад

    Excellent and very helpful video

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  2 года назад

      Thank you so much

  • @Taco10Bell
    @Taco10Bell Месяц назад

    Thanks for the informative video Buck!
    I have a question though, what’s the purpose of the black diaphragm that is also connected to the choke valve? It seems to be vacuum actuated from the engine side of the carb after the throttle valve, but in my experience and in your video I see no function?

  • @jamesanastassiou2266
    @jamesanastassiou2266 3 года назад

    Enlightening information.

  • @georgecribbs8827
    @georgecribbs8827 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for your help

  • @Fakeus
    @Fakeus 5 лет назад +2

    Gracias, I got the same problems thanks regards from Spain

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  5 лет назад

      Thank you. I hope you get your mower running well! Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @anthonyharper8161
    @anthonyharper8161 3 года назад +1

    Great video.. it's amazing you have thumbs .Guess they don't have tools. Thank you..

  • @danielarroyo2659
    @danielarroyo2659 3 года назад

    ALWAYS HAD THE SAME PROBLEM WITH THIS TYPE OF ENGINE, EXCEPT MINE WOULD NOT START DUE TO THE CARB CHOKE NOT CLOSING FOR COLD STARTS. NOW I KNOW WHAT CAUSES THE PROBLEM.

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  3 года назад

      Thanks for watching the video!

  • @tinkerscorner54
    @tinkerscorner54 Год назад +1

    Mine starts great . . . when it's cold. The "Warm Start" is my problem. If I shut it down to move an obstacle or empty the bag, it won't start again until the engine cools all the way down. Then it'll start on the first pull. I think that I will try your linkage reversal, though. It couldn't hurt. Thanks for posting this video.

    • @Calvin5040
      @Calvin5040 Месяц назад +1

      Yep!! I Have Jonsered with a xtx775 if you stop when the engine is hot it will not restart until it has cooled back down. It's a very half-baked design.

  • @digger26
    @digger26 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for this. I actually have a xt675-2034 kohler engine on a Toro. I took the air cleaner cover off and a spring was dangling. Because of your explanation and camera work I now know it is the choke linkage. I've played with the area where I thought it should go. In my case, the linkage doesn't seem to hook onto anything but rather just pushes in a plastic slot that opens the valve. The metal linkage hooks on one side but just moves back and forth in this slot with nothing holding it in place. Very mickey mouse if in fact I am right about my explanation. I haven't been able to find pictures or video of my linkage anywhere but your explanation has given me the confidence to try playing with it. I'm just afraid that my fix is borrowed time and it will fall out of place again in time. With all I've seen and learned, I would not be able to recommend a Toro mower. Thank you for your help.

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  3 года назад

      Thanks for the note. I'm sure you can figure it out. The issue is not really with Toro, per se, but with Kohler. Some of the Toro mowers have Briggs & Stratton engines, for example. Your issue is really with the Kohler engine and its convoluted choke mechanism. Good luck.

  • @josetovar3122
    @josetovar3122 3 года назад

    @Buckwsr My Toro with same engine i bought with the linkage. Will that linkage help lower the rpm? its starts now with out it at full throttle.

  • @johnalderman9899
    @johnalderman9899 2 года назад

    Thank You

  • @kevinm8865
    @kevinm8865 4 года назад

    This was VERY helpful for me. I don't have a Kohler engine but I do have a Toro Super Recycler (20383). Until stumbling upon your video, I had no idea how the "Auto-Choke" worked. My linkages are different but you cleared up questions I've had. First ... I've been troubleshooting my failed starts and thought the choke was closer to the engine than the throttle. I think I may have a stuck/stiff or incorrectly setup linkage because my choke is wide open (though my mower was sitting in the sun most of the day) ... I've cleaned the carb at least 3 good times now but I don't have ANY corrosion, rust, or gum/gel in my carb, fuel line, or carburetor bowl. My float is not full of liquid; my bowl does not have a main jet in it. I'd about lost at this point but still poking around.
    Worst case, I'll just buy a whole new carburetor and pray.

  • @wallytverstol8627
    @wallytverstol8627 5 лет назад +1

    thanks. i think that is the issue. the linkage had fallen off and i didn't put it back on correctly

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  5 лет назад

      Most importantly, keep it all clean so it moves freely.

  • @francisconavarro8509
    @francisconavarro8509 4 месяца назад

    Hay una manguera color negro pequeña que va al diafragma, esa que funcion hace en ese carburador?

  • @richardhill9465
    @richardhill9465 3 года назад

    Thanks

  • @HisWayHomestead
    @HisWayHomestead 2 года назад

    Having the same issue. Thought maybe it was the auto choke mechanism that wasn’t working. I’ll get the carb cleaner out tomorrow and make sure the mechanism moves freely! Thanks for sharing!!!

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  2 года назад +1

      Hope you get it all figured out! Good luck!

    • @HisWayHomestead
      @HisWayHomestead 2 года назад

      @@Buckwsr it still shuts off when it gets hot…. I can tweak the control arm for the carb and can kinda keep it running…. I’m not sure what it can be

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  2 года назад

      @@HisWayHomestead Do you know for sure that the choke plate is opening fully?

    • @HisWayHomestead
      @HisWayHomestead 2 года назад

      @@Buckwsr if you are talking about the little flapper that moves inside the carb, then, yes, it opens up fully.

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  2 года назад

      @@HisWayHomestead Okay, you may want to take the carburetor down and clean it out thoroughly. Make sure you're getting good fuel flow from the gas tank to the carburetor bowl. It is also possible that your problem is not fuel related, but ignition. Try a new spark plug. I had a machine that ran fine when cold, but struggled and died when it warmed up. A new spark plug fixed it. That's a long shot, but it's easy and cheap to do it.

  • @deadeye4543
    @deadeye4543 6 лет назад

    In this video the position of the wire linkage from the bimetallic choke lever to the choke lever on the carburetor is reversed from that depicted in the XT service manual and other videos.

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  6 лет назад +1

      Yes, I reversed it while experimenting on how to make the chokie function more smoothly. Turned out great, so I left it that way. Thanks for the note.

  • @macknumber9
    @macknumber9 6 лет назад

    I have an auto choke with the same exact setup on a Kohler engine. My problem is I tested the spring in the spring is good on the thermostat but it doesn't always close all the way I wonder if I need to take apart that entire shaft of the choke butterfly and just really clean it out really good because like you said that spring is not very strong I would hate to buy a whole new thermostat just to have the same problem

    • @josephpuchel6497
      @josephpuchel6497 2 года назад

      Hey I have same issue but I purchased new auto choke assembly but it doesn’t work and pull back closing the choke. I’m thinking it’s a bad unit.

  • @73hornet
    @73hornet 2 года назад

    Nice video Buck. I could never find an explanation on how this system worked.

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  2 года назад

      Thank you. Glad the video helped.

  • @ahmedfazzaa5573
    @ahmedfazzaa5573 4 месяца назад

    Hi , thanks for your video , and I think this automatic shock got at Subaru engine too .

  • @drummerboy7201
    @drummerboy7201 2 года назад

    best video ever

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  2 года назад

      Thank you so much. I got a chuckle out of your exuberance!

  • @RubyIsBored
    @RubyIsBored 5 лет назад +1

    no freaking way, this is the same mower i have, i haven't looked at this yet due to how early it is (don't want the neighbors hating me) but now i'm pretty sure this is the issue

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  5 лет назад

      Cool. Hope everything worked out for you.....

  • @gregchiarello5472
    @gregchiarello5472 5 лет назад +2

    I bought a new wire choke piece and installed it. The choke is closed when trying to start the engine as you explained. My problem is the lawn mower will not start. I have taken the carburetor off and cleaned it out the best I could. One problem was I couldn’t get the jets out. I have an order in for a new carburetor. Any suggestions on why I can’t get it started. I have the Koehler 149cc engine.

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  5 лет назад +1

      Well, a dirty carburetor could be the culprit. Hard for me to say. Once you install the new carburetor, you should be good to go. If not, perhaps there is another problem you'll need to figure out. Remember the three essential: Fuel, Spark, Compression..... Good luck.

  • @davidmacneil5047
    @davidmacneil5047 4 года назад +1

    Regarding my last inquiry I was thinking of the motor was turning in the opposite direction

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  4 года назад

      There's just no way for me to comment or advise you based on the little information you've given to me.....

  • @anonnone-tg3kl
    @anonnone-tg3kl Год назад

    Buck that was a good video. I have the same engine on a Ariens mower. It would start OK, then after about 20 minutes start revving, slowing, revving, slowing for apparently no reason. There is a little rubber gasket if you look closely around the metal rod that is held in place by the metal bracket. Mine is kinda broken and doesn't stay in place. Could this be causing the erratic revving? The spring action seems to be smoother without the gasket. I've already taken the carburetor off and thoroughly cleaned it so this is frustrating the hell out of me. Pls. advise!

    • @tinkerscorner54
      @tinkerscorner54 Год назад +1

      When mine did that (revving & slowing), it was the fuel tank cap not venting correctly, causing a vacuum in the tank. Loosened the gas cap and the surging would stop.
      Drilling a 1/32 hole just below the cap threads on the tank did the trick. (I've had this happen on several mowers before. My Honda HRX217 was really bad about it.)

  • @txbassfan1
    @txbassfan1 5 лет назад +1

    Did you install an inline fuel filter? If you did, which one did you use and where do I get it from? Great video, thank you sir!

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  5 лет назад +1

      I did not install a fuel filter, but rather, an inline fuel shut off valve. Easily available on Amazon or EBay.

  • @josephpuchel6497
    @josephpuchel6497 2 года назад

    Hey I purchased a new auto choke and it doesn’t even pull choke closed all the the way and engine won’t start. It’s like the new choke assembly is defective.

  • @hphillips7425
    @hphillips7425 3 года назад

    Good video. I think I would look at installing a cable to operate manually

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  3 года назад +1

      Yeah. The more automated things become, the more things there are to go wrong.

  • @user-jw6cw9dt9l
    @user-jw6cw9dt9l Год назад

    "man You are awesome!!! great looking out for the little guy"3thumbeup😊

  • @Taigawell
    @Taigawell 4 года назад

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  • @davidmorad4405
    @davidmorad4405 4 года назад

    What does the black thing to the right of the choke linkage do. It looks like a diaphragm with a linkage piece connected to the choke linkage?

    • @tonyfremont
      @tonyfremont 4 года назад +3

      It's a vacuum pull off that should be opening the choke as soon as the engine starts, I believe. There's an extremely tiny hole in the carburetor throat that runs to the nipple the hose is plugged to. It seems to stop up easily.

  • @davidmacneil5047
    @davidmacneil5047 4 года назад

    Enjoyed your video I replaced a motor on a snowblower and now forward is backwards

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  4 года назад

      That takes true skill!!

  • @josephbagtas6833
    @josephbagtas6833 4 года назад

    can i ask the rotation of this engine when i look up above the fan. Thanks

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  4 года назад

      Simply pull the starter rope to verify which direction the motor spins.

  • @lawrencecarroll2031
    @lawrencecarroll2031 3 года назад

    How were you able to reverse and hook up the choke linkage without breaking the plastic tabs? thanks

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  3 года назад

      you have to unbolt brackets and maybe even the carburetor in order to have enough play so as to remove/install the linkages.

  • @larchman4327
    @larchman4327 Год назад

    This is very helpful thanks. They should really just put a choke switch on it.

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  Год назад

      Yeah, stupid overly complicated systems...tell me about it!

    • @larchman4327
      @larchman4327 Год назад

      @@Buckwsr someone took carb off and twisted the choke actuator clockwise while putting carb back on so it was pulling choke open cold and closing choke engine hot. Nothing wrong just put together wrong.

  • @gilpicard6024
    @gilpicard6024 4 года назад +1

    Your bar from the choke to the bi metalic lever is in backward but still working.

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  4 года назад

      Yes. I think I tried it both ways, and felt this way was working better. I can't quite remember....

  • @JOEZEP54
    @JOEZEP54 6 лет назад +7

    Good tip! I miss the days of manual chokes & throttle cables . Too much engineering for a simple system. : > (

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  6 лет назад +1

      Thanks for the comment, Joe, and for watching the video. It's not a complicated system, but a bit temperamental....

  • @mitchjohnson4714
    @mitchjohnson4714 2 года назад

    Very cool. My lawn mower won't even start and I'm was wondering if it might be related to the automatic choke. So they also have automatic throttles? The carburetor looks clean and changing the spark plugs didn't do anything. If I spray starter fluid in it runs for a few seconds.

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  2 года назад +1

      If you mower only runs on starter fluid, I would say your problem is that you're not getting fuel flow through the carburetor. Possibly the main jet up through the middle is clogged. I would drop the bowl on the carburetor and make sure it's clean and that the main jet is free and clear. To run only a few seconds on starter fluid means you're not getting fuel. Good luck.

    • @mitchjohnson4714
      @mitchjohnson4714 2 года назад

      @@Buckwsr Thanks so much!

    • @mitchjohnson4714
      @mitchjohnson4714 2 года назад

      ​@@Buckwsr Thanks so much for your help. I couldn't figure out how to take my carburetor off because it has these arms attached to it for the automatic choke and throttle, but I did expose it the best I could and blast it all over with carb cleaner. That did the trick! Now it's working fine.

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  2 года назад +1

      @@mitchjohnson4714 Good job!

  • @mrodriguez5259
    @mrodriguez5259 Год назад

    Magnific

  • @wb6162
    @wb6162 6 лет назад

    Thank you! Excellent camera work and editing! Would you suggest WD 40 as a lubricant? I have a Lawn Boy mower with this motor and I really like it outside of this problem. I see a bungee cord in my future to keep that choke open once she warms up!

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  6 лет назад +1

      You could use WD-40, but that might attract dust and dirt and cause the system to malfunction. If the auto choke is working correctly, you won't need a bungee cord to hold the choke plate open, because that is what the auto choke is supposed to do... Thanks for watching and commenting.

    • @wb6162
      @wb6162 6 лет назад +1

      I pulled the air cleaner assembly and found pine needles packed around the top of the carb interfering with the choke linkage. I cleaned it all up and it worked beautiful. Thanks again, without this video I don't know if I would have checked that.

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  6 лет назад

      wb6162 great job!

  • @donvoll2580
    @donvoll2580 Год назад

    Good day from Ontario. I found mower with kohler motor & choke system like this. After watching different videos on this & watching yours Igot it going.
    Gave it to my brother, works great . He changed oil because it was black.
    Now he complaints that oil is black again. U cannot see smoke from exhaust. Is there adjustments on carb to change this. Thanks Very good video

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  Год назад

      Hi Don, There really are no adjustments on the carburetor. And if it's running fine with no smoke, there's no need to attempt it. Just change the oil again. You see, an oil change in any engine does not get out all the old oil. Most, but not all. So the new oil has mixed with the remains of the old oil and now appears dirty. Just change it again. Sometimes, when I get an engine that has never had an oil change, I give it the Double Oil Change Special: I change the oil, run the machine for 10-15 minutes, and then change it again. This is the best way to get rid of most of the old oil. Good job getting mower running again!

    • @donvoll2580
      @donvoll2580 Год назад

      @@Buckwsr Thanks good information

  • @kevinl4080
    @kevinl4080 10 месяцев назад

    I've got the same engine on a Lawn Boy. When I release the bar on the handle, it won't shut off. The fly wheel brake is making good contact, but it still won't shut off. Any thoughts?

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  10 месяцев назад

      In addition to the flywheel brake, releasing the control bar also serves to ground out the ignition coil and shut down the motor. Apparently that is not happening in your case. I have another video that explains and demonstrates this, though it is a different engine. The principle is still the same. You can check it out here: ruclips.net/video/a3tVL23J87s/видео.html

    • @kevinl4080
      @kevinl4080 10 месяцев назад

      @@BuckwsrThank you. I understand how it works, but on this particular engine there is no wire that connects the flywheel brake to the coil. Instead, there is a little red box (like I see in the video we are commenting below) that has two wires coming from it. One connects to the coil and the other connects to a ground (just a screw). When you pull the brake bar, the arm that moves the flywheel brake pushes up a little level on the bottomside of that box.
      With this particular set up, when I release the brake bar, the engine does not cut. I even took the wire from the coil and connected it to the flywheel brake and it still didn't cut spark. Thoughts?

  • @facereader99
    @facereader99 2 года назад

    You have in this video the small one inch shaft connecting thermal choke control with the control on top of the carburetor in the incorrect or reverse placement.

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  2 года назад

      Yes, you are right about that. But it seemed to work better installed in reverse like I did, so I left it that way. For this automatic choke system everything needs to move smoothly and easily. That's the key.

    • @facereader99
      @facereader99 2 года назад

      @@Buckwsr it is going to fall off and then end up at another shop for repair telling that the previous guy was ignorant and sloppy.

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  2 года назад

      @@facereader99 It will not fall off in a million years.

  • @lbergman9637
    @lbergman9637 6 лет назад

    How do you undo or remove that S link from the choke to replace carbureator.. I cant figure it out for the life of me.. I hope you see this. :)

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  6 лет назад +2

      L Bergman I'm trying to remember....there are two screws which require a torx bit that secures a metal bracket that is part of the choke assembly. Remove them. Also, the black plastic lever can slide off that rod that runs over from the muffler area.

    • @mikebrowning1386
      @mikebrowning1386 3 года назад

      I took the plastic top off. I removed the top 10mm nut off of the spring housing holding it down to the muffler. I loosened the lower 10mm nut as the spring housing tab is slotted. I then removed the entire spring housing from the muffler. I also removed the two T20 screws on the carburator that hold the spring rod and black lever. That allowed me to turn, twist and move that black lever all around and get that short little link all hooked up correctly. I slid the spring housing back onto the top of the muffler, reinstalled the two T20 screws and tightened down the 2 10mm nuts on the muffler. No big strain.

  • @omprakashkolluri1136
    @omprakashkolluri1136 3 года назад +1

    Hi,
    Great Video. I replaced the automatic choke, have a new carburetor, and a new spark plug. I ran it once after replacing the automatic choke and the carburetor. That was it. The valve seems to move freely. Have not checked the diaphragm. The lawn mower WILL NOT SART. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  3 года назад +1

      Are you certain the choke plate is fully closed when the engine is cold? If not, maybe have someone manually hold the choke plate closed while you pull the starter cord. But there could be other issues. Is it getting spark? Use a spark tester to verify. Good luck.

  • @tonyfremont
    @tonyfremont 4 года назад

    Just did one today, my first. What a contraption, Briggs figured this out decades ago with a much simpler system. This is a good example of where theory and practice part ways. Getting it all adjusted just right is difficult at best. The pulloff apparently can't win a tug of war with the spring, but neither can the spring. It's a balancing act that gets wrenched up as soon as dirt or goo plugs the tiny carb port, or a small hole forms in the diaphragm, or the blade has the tiniest amount of extra friction on the choke shaft. The system cannot self compensate for any of these, or a plethora of other, variances. The icing on the cake is that there are no documented procedures or specs (that I could find) to set the thermostat lever in the correct place. You did know that it comes off, right? Tinkering with this is a rabbit hole filled with frustration and time sinks. BTW, I won, I think. No way to tell until the outside temps reach into the 40s. Today was in the 90s and it wanted to choke the motor to the point that it couldn't gain enough RPM to activate the pull off enough to stop choking it so hard. Started on the first pull though. After a few hours of tinkering, I got it working. We'll see what if does in the morning though, after temps fall 20°. Lubricate the thermostat shaft's little plastic bushing and oil the choke shaft as other videos describe. It all needs to be very clean. You know, the perfect set of requirements and expectations for a lawnmower.

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  4 года назад +2

      Thank you for your note. I was entertained listening to your detailed thoughts on this engine and auto-choke system. I wish you good luck with yours!

    • @tonyfremont
      @tonyfremont 4 года назад +1

      @@Buckwsr I just finished mowing my yard with the customer's mower. It ran fine, took a minute to warm up enough to pull the choke all the way off and get to full speed, but at least it starts on the first pull. And it starts when hot. That seems to be the big issues, so I'm going to call this a win and send it home for more neglect. The 25 year old Murray I have here also starts on the first pull, but you have to go the extra mile and push a primer bulb a couple of times. Otherwise bit might take two or, God forbid, three pulls. It's a champ. I spent so little time fixing it, that I gave it a new trueblue 5 rope and painted the engine, and air cleaner, covers. It looks like a restoration now, maybe I should start making videos. I have lots of interesting and colorful commentary when I'm doing battle with these things. I'd need a separate adult content channel for two stroke repairs, especially chainsaws.

    • @tonyfremont
      @tonyfremont 3 года назад

      @@Buckwsr it's back, like a recurring nightmare. I really hate this mower, I'm thinking of buying it from the customer because it runs fine, you just have to futz with it every time you want to now.

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  3 года назад

      @@tonyfremont A guy just dropped off one of these mowers that he had trashpicked. I got it going easily enough, but the choke plate does not fully open, even when hot. So I'll play around with it a bit more. But it's not worth putting too much time into it....

  • @johnpfleiderer7308
    @johnpfleiderer7308 4 года назад

    mine runs okay after the initial start. after I stop the engine to empty the bag, I can’t get it re-started. when I pull off the air filter housing, the choke plate is wide open. If I push the choke plate closed with my finger and my wife pulls the cord, I can get it started. Otherwise, I got to wait an hour or so. that thermal lever seems to be working as it should. any other suggestions?

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  4 года назад

      No suggestions, really. Maybe a thorough carburetor cleaning. some people opt to rig up a manual choke, but that sounds like more trouble than it's worth. Be nice to your wife so she stays willing to help you when you need it.

    • @pauleyedwin6056
      @pauleyedwin6056 3 года назад

      I had same problem. Removed fuel filter from tank and added red inline filter. This increased fuel flow and fixed my problem.

  • @georgek6389
    @georgek6389 5 лет назад

    I have a 6yr old Toro with a similar set up. After 45 minutes of mowing the engine sputters and dies. And won't restart. Plenty of gas, air filter clean. No spark getting to the plug. 1/2 hour later it starts right up and runs for another 45 min. sputters and dies. Coil AND choke thermo bad?????

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  5 лет назад +1

      Replace ignition coil (magneto). Or, schedule your mowing in 45 minute increments!!!

  • @skutsenkow
    @skutsenkow Год назад +1

    When I start mine, it takes several minutes to get up to speed but it runs very low power until then. Will barely cut the grass. When I first got the mower it didn't do that. I feel like something is stuck. Thoughts?

    • @jrvance8326
      @jrvance8326 Год назад +1

      Please let me know if you find this answer. Same thing happening to me as well.

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  Год назад

      I recommend a thorough carburetor cleaning.

    • @jrvance8326
      @jrvance8326 Год назад

      @@Buckwsr I installed a new carb. Same exact results with new carb. I will not let this mower beat me. LOL!!!!

    • @mariobannano6592
      @mariobannano6592 Год назад +1

      I have the same problem when I get my Kohler started it heats up n down n it feels I loose power my small wire broke off the choke but revs up n down then 10 min later it stalls. I wired a piece of wire so it makes contact, now its leaking gas out of my carburetor under screw I can't seem to stop leak, loosing lot of gas now what do I need another carburetor. Help please Duke. Thank you.

    • @mariobannano6592
      @mariobannano6592 Год назад

      Buck any suggestions

  • @macknumber9
    @macknumber9 6 лет назад +1

    Nobody really ever talks about that black diaphragm looking thing that has a tube connecting to the other side of the carburetor that also connects to that choke butterfly is there a way that I can test that and what does it do because it has some role in that choke system maybe I have something wrong with that part

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  6 лет назад

      Thanks for the note. Like you, I am unsure about that black diaphragm apparatus you mentioned. Surely it seems like it must be some kind of choke control. Based on the looks of the linkage...it appears that it might have the ability to open the choke plate, but not necessarily close it.... Let me know if you find any info on that....

    • @macknumber9
      @macknumber9 6 лет назад

      Buckwsr thanx for the reply...yes I found out it is supposed to use the vacuum from engine to keep the choke open...im having the opposite issue so my issue is with the choke closing....i think the spring is so weak like you mentioned cleaning it is super important....i have the linkage on wrong I'm going to change that and clean the hell out of the shaft and if that doesn't do it I will spend the $20 on the thermostat

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  6 лет назад

      Thanks for the info and good luck on your project!

    • @wallytverstol8627
      @wallytverstol8627 5 лет назад

      hm i thought about that too. good question

    • @tonyfremont
      @tonyfremont 4 года назад

      You can suck on the hose and see if it operates. You might want to use a miteyvac to measure hiw much vacuum it takes to open, and if the diaphragm leaks. I'm having an issue with one of these right now. When the engine starts, it runs too rich while waiting for the muffler heat to open the blade. I believe the diaphragm should be pulling it open as soon as it starts, overriding the spring rod.

  • @charlesmorrow5193
    @charlesmorrow5193 5 лет назад

    I have one it will run but when I put it up the gasoline will leak out what could be the problem

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  5 лет назад +1

      What do you mean by "put it up"? The most likely cause of fuel leaking from the carburetor is that the needle is not seating properly to cut off the flow of fuel into the carburetor. Could be some debris keeping it from seating properly.

    • @charlesmorrow5193
      @charlesmorrow5193 5 лет назад

      @@Buckwsr in a shaid

  • @eagl0215
    @eagl0215 4 года назад

    What do you do if the start handle cable doesn’t pull enough to engage the switch in order for spark plug to fire??

  • @michaeleisenbise4278
    @michaeleisenbise4278 Год назад

    Buck's Small Engine DIY - Your video does not include the real reason the choke opens. I am surprised you did not include it. There is a cone shaped piece with a diagram in it and a rod hooked to the choke. This part is called the "choke pull off." It is located to the upper right of the carburetor. There is a hose that runs from the carburetor up to this piece. When the engine starts, a vacuum is initiated in this hose. The vacuum pulls the diagram down. There is a rod hooked to the diagram. When the diaphragm is pulled down the rod pulls the choke open. So, the choke is initially opened by the choke pull off while the motor heats up. Once the motor heats up then the choke is held open by the device you described in your video. The video is inaccurate. However, the video is well done. Thanks for posting.

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  Год назад

      Thanks for the additional info!

  • @truthstartshere.9214
    @truthstartshere.9214 5 лет назад

    Why not a regular choke system? Why this new contraption of sorts ?

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  5 лет назад

      I guess that's a question for the kohler people. Automation always seems to make things more complicated, doesn't it?

  • @stevenebesni2432
    @stevenebesni2432 Год назад

    This is waaaay easier that a handlebar mounted lever.

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  Год назад +1

      Love that sarcasm! Gave me a chuckle.

  • @jimmyjoe2311
    @jimmyjoe2311 11 месяцев назад

    You have the choke linkage on wrong.

  • @smurphykwm
    @smurphykwm 2 года назад

    I noticed, the choke rod is on backwards

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  2 года назад

      Yes, I think it works fine either way. Thanks.

  • @paulmuller1443
    @paulmuller1443 6 лет назад

    the linkage is on backwards

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  6 лет назад +1

      yes, and I discovered it works better that way!

  • @robmelindadavis5970
    @robmelindadavis5970 Год назад

    4:59 you have your choke linkage hooked up backwards

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  Год назад

      Ah yes, so I did! Good observation. But my theory is...It's not backward if it works!

  • @richardjames3063
    @richardjames3063 11 месяцев назад

    So you can't actually demonstrate what you did to the linkage?

  • @guillermoulloa7308
    @guillermoulloa7308 5 лет назад

    That linkage is put on wrong

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  5 лет назад +3

      Thank you for the note. It works well either way, as demonstrated in the video.

  • @sonnyc3826
    @sonnyc3826 2 месяца назад

    that choke level pin is on backwards and wrong..i mean if it works, it works but its on backwards..thats probably your choke problem

  • @SNIXC
    @SNIXC Год назад

    I prefer a manual choke

  • @Silverado1st
    @Silverado1st 3 года назад

    Awesome :-) Picked up one of these auto-chokes to open and close an exhaust vent cover for an outdoor lpg shower heater I set up to to keep my small fountain/pond from turning into an ice skating rink. I was wondering just how far the linkage turned, how fast it turned and which direction :-) Exactly the info I was looking for :-D Thanks for the great upload!

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  3 года назад +1

      Sounds like an amazingly creative project!

  • @buzzedalldrink9131
    @buzzedalldrink9131 2 месяца назад

    I bet that crappy plastic fuel shut off- mounted upside down leaks like crazy.
    Spend a few bucks, buy a metal shut off, these cheap plastic one fail all the time , especially if it mounted like this

  • @billballoo7881
    @billballoo7881 Год назад +1

    Seems like nearly every Kohler has issues with the carb system. Doesn't seem to be very smart.

  • @Calvin5040
    @Calvin5040 Месяц назад

    Kind of a bad design. It won't go back if the engine stops but is fully warmed up yet but still needs to be choked. It will not restart until the muffler cools back down

  • @mschlueter2571
    @mschlueter2571 3 года назад

    I call it the "dumb choke"

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  3 года назад

      LOL. Keep it clean and moving smoothly, and you'll be fine. A mower with one of these same engines was just dropped off for me to look at. I'm looking forward to it!

  • @LouisDePalma-id8yy
    @LouisDePalma-id8yy 2 месяца назад

    why not just delete it and install a manual choke cable?

    • @Buckwsr
      @Buckwsr  2 месяца назад

      Very good idea, actually....