How I Make My Own Contrast Paint
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Note: I've re-uploaded this video with the audio levels corrected.
This video will cover some simple techniques that produce similar results to Games Workshops new line of contrast paints.
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7:29 the paint was sad
Small tip, if you want superfine pigment consistent pigment. I use cheap (super cheep) tattoo ink.
Yes just don't use a good brush.
Cool video man. Fanboys will be fanboys. It's cool your doing some alchemy with the acrylic elements. Most people don't know what the different parts of paint are and what they do. I didn't feel this was an attack on the new paint "que the choir music" just a quick tip on using mixing medium to get similar results.
Thanks for the comment, I appreciate it!
7:29 - your paint seems to be really unhappy...
LOL I saw it!
This is an older version of a current Ninjon video... his is to use Pro Acryl Transparents and Citadel Contrast Medium. It's what I'll be doing.
Guy with the shield doesn't look bad at all. Nice job.
I’ve been trying different diy contrast stuff lately and found that that airbrush flow improver has alcohol in it and tends to eat away/strip the layer of paint and primer below, causing unwanted blending, even if I add a layer of varnish.
Good to know, I've really only used it for the first layer, and move to more traditional layering and blending on the later steps.
As a substitute for airbrush flow improver, use Fantastik Cleaning solution, available at local Walmart, mixed down to 1/3rd to 1/4th with boiled (or distilled) water. Use the stuff with my airbrush and it is wunderbar. The medium can be substituted with an acrylic clear medium from an art store. Your welcome.
Funny thing is, I was just looking into making washes, which lead me to this exact thing! Thanks, should be able to save some money!
@@PittsPilot Lots. You can use the stuff clean your tools/airbrush, and simply leave it in the cup when not using. Comes in a 4 liter can for $12 smackeroos.
lol. that's what people have used since the 90's
@@jparks6544 Exactly.
Good shot at it. People got their GW product goggles on right now. So all attempts people are doing are instantly attacked and discredited. Give it 2 weeks after a well known youtuber gets ahold of them. An says heres what they are heres how they are made and then people will realize its just some pigment binder and medium. It's nothing revolutionary or game changing.
That's describes every acrylic paint. There's still an enormous gulf in quality between brands... But I'm sure some dude whacking it together at home can do as good as a team of paint chemists and a few years of R&D (and probably a few million invested)
Thanks for the comment, overall I'm honestly excited about it. There is a lot of hype about them, it's good for the games and the hobby, less grey plastic on the table is great!
@@draraist I don't think you understand how lazy GW are with their products.
@@draraist no need for the blatant disrespect. Each to their own and if this is what people like (mixing their own paint) why shouldn't they?
Not once was it stated in the video that this is better than GW's, it's frequently mentioned as an alternative.
I tried a similar recipient and I found that with certain colors, I had an issue where the paint would gather in the details like it’s supposed to, but dry thick and almost goopy, obscuring those details. I’m going to experiment more but I’m wondering if anyone else has had this issue, and if it’s because I’m using too much medium or too little.
so how did go you experimentation? I'm thinking to go on the ink way.
I've been making ink-based washes rather than contrast paint, but the process is basically the same just thinner, and my experience is that there's a fair amount of variation in thickness even using inks. I think washes can be used for almost the exact same purpose as contrast paints, it just takes more layers to build up opacity.
I have matte medium and glaze mediums, would those work to make the contrast?
I do believe either would work, the finish will be a little different but I think either would work as a medium to thin the pigment.
Thank you for this, this was along one of two lines of thought I was having as to the composition/replicating the properties of the contrast paints
Great, thanks for the comment, I hope it was helpful!
I don’t know what’s in the army painter product. What can you sub it with?
I'm not really sure what the mixing medium is made out of, but there are other brands. Liquitex makes a mat mixing medium sold at chain hobby stores that would get similar results.
If you were to make a bottle up of fake contrast medium, what do you think the ratios would be? 50%MM 40%FI 10%W perhaps?
Your voice sounds a lot like Lester Bursley.....
Cool subbed
GW too expensive
Seems about the same as army painter quick shades but it has all this hype around it. I don't like the way the hobby element of the hobby is being degraded more and more. There's a would of difference between dipping something and having a nicely painted army and the later require skills these paints do nothing to teach you.
Thanks for the comment, I was a bit worried about the quality of hobby as well, but I think aside from experienced hobbiests adding this as a tool, the majority of people using contrast paint will be people who would otherwise probably not paint their models or people who have avoided the hobby because of the idea of having to paint.
All paints teach you something. And experienced people like Vince Venturella use speed painting techniques.
@@josh1674 I agree, just because something is different and gets models on the table faster, although maybe at a lower quality doesn't mean it's degrading the hobby. In fact it may be more like a gateway drug, help people get past the intimidation of starting to paint, it may bring more people into the hobby.
@@PittsPilot I agree. Many people start dipping and eventually realize brush washing with Army painter inks provides a better result, and then they start pin-washing or spot washing different basecoats with different colors of inks... I went through that process myself.
You can increase your drawing skill over years and years and years to the point you can spend weeks on a work it is indistinguishable from a photograph.
It takes me one sixtieth of a second to take an actual photograph.
$8/bottle: nah;thx, boykie...
it doesn't look all that great.
I would agree, the goal of both these methods, as well as the contrast paint isn't to look good, but to put painted miniatures on the table quick with reasonable paint jobs. If you want something to look good then you need to take your time with layering and blending to build up contrast with smooth transitions.
@@PittsPilot No. Actually, this method does look good when done properly by a skilled painter. Your stuff does not look good. Big difference.
@@jparks6544 OK, thanks man
So, you did zenithal, mixed medium (doubling the price of paint), highlighted, and yet for all that mucking about and lost time you got far worse results than a single quick coat of contrast on bone primer. Yup, really "similar"! What's up with all the people who not only didn't try contrast, but didn't even bother to look at it and yet still declaring they have "totes same" results while proudly showing something that looks like garbage (that doesn't flow and cover one tenth as good as contrast) with far more effort put it?
Not that I defend GW, and will probably buy contrast-like from Vallejo once they make it, but really, you should at least look at videos of pros demonstrating the use of it before proudly declaring your homemade garbage is any "good" and trapping new painter thinking they found a shortcut into messing up their first model and giving up...
This model is GW contrast paint used at a local store --> i.redd.it/gtisygcdja331.jpg I believe that is similar to my results, but thanks for the comment anyway. Sorry you didn't like the video, methods or the results, just a suggestion, not trying to tell the community they should ot shouldn't do anything. Just offering techniques I use. What kind of videos would find useful?
mate go somewhere else and troll, wanker
Wow, what an asshole.
Looks nothing like what Contrast is at all, the extremely loose theory, sure but its like saying some beef, pasta, milk, cheese flour etc thrown in a bucket is lasagne.
I appreciate the comment, you believe the resulting models look nothing like the results from the GW contrast paint? I have to disagree. I'm not trying to say anything bad about the contrast paint here, I think it's great for the hobby and a good product. Just trying to show people another way to achieve a similar effect with stuff they may already have.
@@PittsPilot Its not the same as a glaze though, the pigmentation is impressive with Contrast but taking any standard paint and diluting it in any way will also dilute the pigmentation of the glaze as we can clearly see. A similar effect is all good and well but to claim its the same as Contrast with a clickbait title is pretty blatant.
@@avantasiaftw I always try to keep my titles short and concise, and felt that this was as close as I could come to the content of this video, I may make a small update on the title. I apologies if it was misleading to you, I still believe that this is an alternative to contrast paint and so I do not believe the title is misleading because the outcome is similar. I feel like "Contrast paint" is more a marketing term then a tried and true type of paint at the moment, unless someone from GW can share their exact formula. Just look at any contrast paint video on RUclips and you'll see the glaze vs contrast vs ink debate hashed and rehashed. I do appreciate the feedback though and apologies if you expected something else from my video.
@@PittsPilot I didnt expect anything other than what I got, its like saying here is how you make Scale 75 paint then not having Scale 75 paint at the end of it, all acrylic paint anyway and all acrylic paint is exactly the same right?
@@avantasiaftw No definitely not, I'm not trying to re-create their formula here, just demonstrate methods I use to achieve similar effects. By all means I hope a lot of people buy and use contrast paints, I'm excited about them. I can't wait to play more mini war games against fully painted armies!
I guess a Toyota is the same as a Ferrari right? They're both cars I guess. It's like making your own washes... You CAN... But they suck compared to the real thing.
This model was painted with GW contrast paint at a local store --> i.redd.it/gtisygcdja331.jpg seems pretty similar to my results to me, I'm sorry you don't agree. I agree contrast paints are made very differently than the techniques I use, but I honestly believe the results are similar. Both my quick painting techniques and the GW contrast paints pale in comparison to a model skillfully painted in a traditional method, so really there is no Ferrari here in my opinion. I appreciate the feedback though, what kind of videos would you like to see?
I can promise you couldn't pick out Strong Tone from my homebrew on the model