@@trelwilliams5003honestly idk why everyone’s praising the combat in the second game. It is EXACTLY the same as the first. And there’s less enemy’s to shoot. The story was why Alan wake was so loved.
Removing the darkness shield is actually pretty satisfying. Its just a game mechanic. In the context of the story, the mechanic makes sense and its not that annoying espeicially when you have flares and flash bangs to vary it up.
Who gives af, narrating something you just watched would be like having some douche stand over your shoulder re reading everything you just read in a book but aloud and in a shitty voice
Yes we understand that, but the repetition of repeating the Narration can be annoying. You can make things make sense with the context of the game, without them being annoying. Every other game that isn't Alan Wake cannot get away with this .
@@Synical02If the game has to do with it being placed in a book being written as you play then of course it would be acceptable. It’s not a valid criticism
I disagree for the most part... The more you progress the more tools you can use to get rid of them. Flares, flaregun, flashbangs and better flashlights. Sure... The core is the same but you get progressively more tools under your belt to deal with em. And also! The concert part is beyond awesome!
AND it’s not a constant “aim for 10 seconds. Dodging the weapons they throw, the posted objects, the different types of enemies, and then having to weaken like 5 of them for 10 seconds each, is a little bit of a challenge.
You're trying to make excuses for how the game is fun, when if it were fun you wouldnt need to. The gameplay is literally exhausting. It doesnt feel good to play. Garbage game
@@IcarusFaIlen That's ridiculous. It is all about personal preference. I don't find Call of Duty fun to play where as millions of others disagree on it. I don't need those people to make excuses for it when it won't change my mind. I just played Alan Wake last weekend, and it is challenging and different and I love that about it, also there is much more to it gameplay wise than what is mentioned in this video is all I am saying.
Too be fair the combat in the first game does kinda suck, but not for the reason he says It is kinda clunky and annoying at times, especially the poltergeist items (I would audibly groan every time they were apart of a level)
@@JayKordichloverthe movement of wake can be almost tank control like, I especially didn’t like that we didn’t have a stamina meter (even though the flashlight and health AND gun all had one), I also didn’t really like how the dodge system worked at times. I know you can’t just be speedy mczoom but like come on I should be able to dodge in a run. I ESPECIALLY hated the dumb fucking spin that would disorient me when I would pull out a flare around a horde!
@@nickandbarry1777you clearly have never played Alan wake, the game is nowhere near tank control. A real tank control games are classic resident evil where in Alan wake you can move your camera freely
@@HeluvaWeirdo yeah I can agree with this, AW2 has a closer system to tank controls than AW1 did, I guess the real word I’m meaning to use is clunky controls. Very clunky compared to the new one. I’d like to say though that tank controls don’t need a fixed camera, it’s mainly the movement and yeah AW1 doesn’t fit that.
@@Aquafootamerican nightmare would’ve dissapointed me had i bought it for the same price as the original, decent but kinda like the dead space 3 of alan wake
@@drepdrained Alan Wake 1. It did attempt to fix some of problems with combat. Weapon variety, enemy variety, and more responsive controls. Would be better if there was at least two weapons that didn't need to use flashlight on enemies instead of just crossbow.
Alan Wake was an amazing first playthrough and I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. Still love the game to death and I have high hopes for the sequel.
Ah yes. Lets just shoot the shadow entities and not add any suspense to the horror game during combat or anything This is an old comment. But people are clearly misunderstanding. I'm defending Alan Wake and calling the guy in the video a donut. Thank you for your replies tho 💪
@@madhouse9330 a horror game can be a very wide amount of things. In most cases, simply being jumpscared is considered horror. It being psychological is not mutually exclusive.
@@FrankByDaylightit’s a psychological action thriller. You’ve never played a good quality game in your life if you hate on Alan wake for the jump scares of all things and on top of that it’s more than just jump scares and shooting things, that’s 10% of what the game really has to offer. You forget there’s a story for each event, it’s largely a story based game. That doesn’t make it a bad game, you just probably prefer another genre. Maybe take time out of your day to actually play the game with some nice surround sound headphones and you’ll understand the gritty and dark atmosphere along with the beautiful story the game has to offer.
What he explained is why i love the game lol. I felt the combat was great and I really liked his narration, as it makes sense from a story perspective.
I'm not gonna lie, the narration ruins the immersion and creepiness of the series. But then I realized after playing both 1 and 2 that it wasn't supposed to be a horror game, it's just the antagonists are turning it into a horror story. I mean.. Control and Quantum Break are in the same universe, but they're action games. When I accepted that fact, I started loving it.
Wait until he finds out every bit of Alan wake is narrative because he’s going through his own written story based off his horror books. It’s supposed to capture the feeling of being in a Alan wake book itself perfectly.
Here's the issue. You're adding Narration on top of a narrative that already has narration. Ive seen no Game get away with this besides Alana wake. People understand he's narrating his own events from his book, but the story is happening to him he doesn't have to consistently narrate the events we experience and see taking place. The literal only Defense people have for this criticism is that well he's narrating his own book; yea how does that take away from any potential annoyance?
@@Synical02the annoyance is part of the story, imagine being trapped in your book, knowing everything and with each step you take you remember what you wrote
Totally disagree with this. The light mechanic is great. As it has a few complexities like when you are aiming your torch at an opponent your visibility is limited and it brings in a tactical element to gameplay. Not to mention the survival element of running out of batteries etc.
And makes you think fast on your feet too. Alan Wake is one reason my reflexes for other games is quicker because I had to be quick in order to deal with the Taken and not die.
The reason the narration works is because you need to realize the context of what the story takes place in. Your are effectively playing out the events of a book with your character (and narrator) literally being the Author. It also kinda gives a sense that the book is being written in real time as you progress. I also really like the mechanic of having to remove their shields with light cause it means you’re not allowed to brute force your way through fights (to an extent) and you have to focus on removing their shields first. In a lot of scenarios the enemies are going to be trying to kill you while you drop their shields so it makes fights pretty tense as you try to multitask dropping shields while also avoiding attacks.
Of course you can disagree with him. He's wrong. 1 the flash light is supposed to be weak, you get consumables that drop the shadow armor instantly and part of the gameplay is deciding when to use them vs dealing with enemies using your weak light source. If the flashlight instantly dropped shadow armor, the game would be trivial and you could kill packs of enemies with ease. 2 the shadow armor is a completely separate mechanic from the enemies' health. It's like playing a space game where your enemy has shields. Your kinetic weapons do little or nothing to shields, and your EMP weapons do nothing to the ship's hull. You need to use the correct weapons to defeat enemies.
I mean he is kind of right. The story and setting do a lot of heavy lifting imo. Whenever i did replay the game i wasnt replaying to experience the combat again because it was fun; i replayed it just to kind of hear the story again and find easter eggs 🤷🏿♂️ as far as him saying "it just doesnt work" definitely wrong about that. Its a solid above average horror game. Not the best but good enough to be apart of the discussion.
@@oldmacheath4453it's not a flaw though. The action pacing can make it feel weird. It's gonna feel better in the new game cause of the survival horror pacing.
The dude doesn't understand great storytelling and that AW is a WRITER, and he NARRATES like he is telling a story . The gameplay gets intense, and it's fun. The reason you have to shine the light is to pierce through the darkness. It is a game mechanic that fits the story. So what it is like pointing a gun. They did something new and different. So you don't like when creators add something different to a game. Shining the light is clever. It fits for story purpose, and it is a cool mechanic. And it isn't the same as aiming the gun because it has a different purpose. How would you have the flashlight mechanic without it feeling the same as aiming a gun?? There are not many ways to do it. And YES, it does work.. Your opinion is your opinion. It may be a stupid, close-minded, creativity hating opinion, but it is your stupid opinion. You own it..
@th.k.96 Saying a horror game isn't scary is not the flex you think it is. And if this game bored you, then go back to playing games more your speed, like Fortnite
1 was great.. I replay it every so often, just picked up 2 and is not as linear as the 1st, feels more like a walking and a detective simulator combined.. maybe it’ll get better after Local Girls.
I'm currently playing Alan Wake for the first time and I have to agree with him 😂 the combat isn't as satisfying as other similar genre games I've played. RE4 (original) and The Evil Within (1) do a much better job at making combat fun. idk if it's the absence of enemies not dropping loot or if it's the flash light system, but goddamn it gets stressful to reload the flashlight AND gun at the same time and ofc somehow the gun does not fully reload like any other shooter. But story and visual presentation I really like so far. Gameplay is meh to okish imo. Like even Control is more fun to shoot even tho it has respawning enemies. I really wonder how they did it in Alan Wake II.
I personally find it hilarious that the critics and toxic player bases can't figure out that sometimes, developers makes the mechanics hard to use intentionally to add suspense. And those games end up recieving unfair amount of hate and criticisim. The Evil Within did that, The Callisto Protocol did that, Alan Wake did that. To me, all are aweasome games. It's their style. They are being unique by their stylish choices. Not every game has to be Resident Evil 4, and shouldn't get hate for not being so. Not every game has to have satisfying combat. Not every game has to be easy to play. Not every game has to be an open world, back tracking heavy, non-liner, expolarion based 20+ hour experience.
I watched few streamers that hate Evil Within 1, and most of the time it's their fault when they die, and they are mad at the game. It's like they think that they have to be good at every game, or the game sucks.
I agreed until you said Callisto protocol. They marketed it as the next dead space and then gave us the most generic melee combat ever. Also the story sucks legit the only thing it has going for it are the visuals if you can run it at good settings
@@angel__king I personally see The Callisto Protocol no different than 2023's version of The Evil Within. If The Evil Within was came out in 2023 with today's graphical standards, this would be the exact same treament it would get. Yet many thinks it is a masterpiece today. The game (TCP) itself did an extraordinary work with the graphics and atmosphere. And I really liked the story especially after finding interesting details in my other playthroughs. I highly recommend "TeryonTheHuman"s review and story explanation of The Callisto Protocol. TCP tried a different way of storytelling that I never saw in any other game before, that almost every line that is said in the game gains a different meaning later on in the story, like the first line of Jacob being "I do not belong here" right after entering The Black Iron Prison, and his last line being "I do belong here" right before getting out, a completely deserved line delivered with dedication and acceptence of fate. Every character served multiple functions other than just being characters. Like Max being Jacob's conscience and torturing him throghout his journey, just to make him realize what he has done. And Ferris representing the judgement and price of what he has done, never stops chasing him no matter how many times Jacob escapes his grasp or temporarily defeats him (Including the ending scene of the main campaign). Because *there is always a price to pay* and *you can't run from what you've done* ... The game is an 8/10 to me, one of the best games I have played this year along with RE4R and ALAN WAKE II.
Tbh i hate the gameplay. Is this a "git gud"? maybe but i hate the fast guys, it feels like no matter what I do i get stun locked and jumped. The story is peak tho
Bro is literally living a fucking thriller book HE WROTE, of course it’s being narrated, combat does run dry at some point though but it’s still a fire game
I mean... It literally revolutionized the gaming market, the game was great until it got so big it became that popular kid everyone hates but they don't know why@@snake_et_queen
Alan Wake is one of my favorite video games of all time, full stop. With that being said, the movement of Alan is mainly what irritated me in the game, along with the laughably minuscule amount of time that you can actually run. The dodge mechanic was mid as well. I am happy to say that Alan Wake II has improved on every single one my critiques tho.
I don’t see how the combat is any worst then most games of that era. Plus the story and setting set Alan Wake apart. Easily one of the games of that generation, yet somehow it is a bit under appreciated with takes like this IMO.
I get the complaints. And yes. If you play the game a thousand times like I did, it all does get kinda old. But the first few times around, there's all sorts of little nuances to the story that you'll notice that help emphasize the world. The gameplay can get kind of frustrating at times, but if you're annoyed, just run away. It's that easy.
If you have to lie about what happens in the game then it shows what little amount of criticism you actaully have. The thing he said about the door is just a total lie
A lot of us are grown ass men with differences of opinions who will gladly express those opinions. This is such a steamlined, agreeable with anything era we're in lol
chapter 5: alan gets a magical weapon that he uses 1 time to make it daytime then 1 more. but not while goes to the lake. they gave him a magic wand without a limit is how the manuscript was written
This guy AND fans of the game are BOTH CORRECT. The game is great, if you figure out how to play it through experimentation. If you are rushed through it, then the tougher parts of the game will be unbearable. A lot of times in tough parts the flashlights just won't cut it. You have to use a flare, a flashbang grenade, or a flare gun to clear the tougher parts. However the game does a poor job of explaining that to you, so it's easy to overlook that and have trouble with the game. However, once you master the timing on when to use different weapons, then you can have a blast with the game.
Using a grenade here and there is hardly peak tactics. Every single combat encounter is exactly the same. The game is beyond tedious and the writing is so bad, like an alien tried to mimic the way Americans act in movies.
10 seconds , i don't think so, when you are facing more than 2 enemies they attack so quickly that you don't even get 5 clear seconds to aim the flash light, every time you dodge you aim for like 3 seconds and then someone just throws an axe on your ass lol
Hate on it but this was one of my top horror games it had a crazy story that kept you guessing and it had a unique combate that always kept you on edge love this game
What do people really want, if it was anything else say like halo feels but still Alan wake story it’d suck, and you’ll still complain.. just buy the game and give it to someone who will actually love to read and learn instead of this guy
If you could simply shoot the enemies, the guns are already strong enough to take the enemies down, so there would be no tension in the combat. Him saying its borning or flawed makes me doubt hes beaten the first two chapters. From enemies that circle your blind spots, to enemies that run straight at you, or birds ands lighting fast enemies keen on catching you off guard. Inanimate objects that throw themselves at you, or possessed vehicles that run you over, theyve crafted an extremely in depth combat system that makes the horror work while being totally fair to the player, even on nightmare. And this is despite them giving you several easy ways to dispatch enemies (i.e, the flashbangs, flares and the flaregun, the heavy duty flashlight and torch) If alan wakes combat is "kobbled together," then cod's must be the definition of brain rot.
I have recently finished Alan Wake Remaster and have moved onto Control , I feel that the combat aspects of both these games are pretty subpar but the story telling and world is top tier
The game does make an attempt to bring its themes of light vs. darkness into the gameplay through the dark shields, and I do think it struggles to stick the landing on that. However, it's fundamentally no different than popping an energy shield on a Covenant Elite with a plasma weapon. The game also quickly provides more means to eliminate dark shields (flares) and just delete enemies off the map entirely (flashbangs, the flare gun, environmental explosives). This is someone who insisted on using the same strategy the entire game even when offered other options, and then complains that the game is repetitive. It's not the most interesting shooter sandbox out there, but it's far from straight up bad. If someone unironically thinks AW1 is a bad game, they've clearly never played a genuinely bad game before. Also, the in-game narration is to emphasize the fact that the story is a book that the main character is writing as you progress through it. It's also important to remember that Remedy haa their roots in the noir aesthetic of the Max Payne games. All of their characters have internal monologues, and unlike most games that use that as a design choice, all of their characters actually have different story reasons for it. Max is a detective in a noir thriller, Alan is narrating his story as he writes, and Jesse is interacting with Polaris in her head. This is further reinforced in Alan Wake 2, as Alan continues narrating his side of the game, while Saga barely has an internal monologue at all during gameplay, because she saves it for when she's deducing clues and facts for the case she's working on. It's actually a fascinating creative choice with more thought put into it than you might think if you care to look.
Worst part about the game was that they take away ALL of your Equipment EVERYTIME at the end of a level! The suspense is amazing and the combat is survival horror material except you can't save items. :((
There is a symbolic purpose of aiming light at enemies To end their darkness before u can shoot to kill them Its like game companies cant even try new things because of you haters I loved alan wake and looking forward to alan wake 2
Yes, but the tradeoff for that symbolism is that it makes every gun and fight feel the same. It feels like i'm playing luigi mansion for MANLY MEN(tm). There should of been a few guns that didn't need to shine the light at to make the fights a little less monotonous.
@@MediocreNed like a shotgun with an inbuilt flashlight which can be used directly But there is a flare gun in the game which can be used directly but yes there is no ammo I feel like the Alan wake experience was just something different but sometimes it felt like a grind
I loved Alan wake 1 and the wee spin off we got. But I was so surprised when the second one was announced and right now am half way through that one and loving it
I dont think the combat is bad its just a bit clunky sometimes. But it felt kinda reasonable. Like Alan is a famous writer, of course he's not the best at running or shooting or dodging. He literally keels over if you run too long. I think it was mildly intentional that the combat be difficult
Bad game takes 101! On the flip side if the game meant you just shot people that had been overtaken by a dark resonance it’d be “why are you just shooting them when their weakness is light! Why can’t you use a torch to weaken them?! The torch is literally in Alan wakes hand! It just doesn’t make sense!”
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To the Alan Wake haters I say "It’s not a Lake, it’s an Ocean!"
Ur damn right😈😈😈😈
Trust no one in the dark
@@stephencorwin9165 unless u have a flashlight😈
Put a lime in the coconut
Find the lady of the light
This is a story of a man literally living the book he wrote, of course the narrating like he read the book
I like it so far expect the out of game narrators that's weird to me
Too bad that some people don’t get it.🤷🏽♂️
Story in a game matters as much as story in a porno
Exactly.
But some people are too stupid to get it.
@@snake_et_queenHe’s not too stupid to get it, he just doesn’t like it, What’s so wrong with that?
How to slap someone through the internet
Literally on my search history right now 😂
@@moonjumper9504it’s trash. The second game is actually good.
@@trelwilliams5003honestly idk why everyone’s praising the combat in the second game. It is EXACTLY the same as the first. And there’s less enemy’s to shoot. The story was why Alan wake was so loved.
@@trelwilliams5003that's a game?? Shits a literally Netflix movie you control and thats not a compliment
@@POV-ERTY the story is better and it looks better. Not my type of game but compared to the first it’s great. The first was like a ps2 game to me.
Removing the darkness shield is actually pretty satisfying. Its just a game mechanic. In the context of the story, the mechanic makes sense and its not that annoying espeicially when you have flares and flash bangs to vary it up.
I be tossing flash grenades no hesitation, all the mob hears is *click* and proceeds to see the glory of the sun before dying x)
But let’s ignore games with “shields” that you have to continue to shoot to damage the enemy…
Shield are basically an extra health bar so it’s not really the same
@@thaoban4923The shroud of darkness is another health bar in its own sense as well, except you don’t use a gun to take it down
Underrated comment!!
@@thaoban4923The shadow is an extra health bar too for which the Light is the ammo
@@thaoban4923destiny 2 shield is literally just a health bar
For the narration thing, IT IS LITERALY A BOOK THE STORY IS REPETING
Who gives af, narrating something you just watched would be like having some douche stand over your shoulder re reading everything you just read in a book but aloud and in a shitty voice
Yes we understand that, but the repetition of repeating the Narration can be annoying.
You can make things make sense with the context of the game, without them being annoying.
Every other game that isn't Alan Wake cannot get away with this .
@@Synical02to me it was never annoying
@@Synical02If the game has to do with it being placed in a book being written as you play then of course it would be acceptable. It’s not a valid criticism
I disagree for the most part... The more you progress the more tools you can use to get rid of them. Flares, flaregun, flashbangs and better flashlights. Sure... The core is the same but you get progressively more tools under your belt to deal with em. And also! The concert part is beyond awesome!
AND it’s not a constant “aim for 10 seconds. Dodging the weapons they throw, the posted objects, the different types of enemies, and then having to weaken like 5 of them for 10 seconds each, is a little bit of a challenge.
Dude the concert part is nightmare!!
You're trying to make excuses for how the game is fun, when if it were fun you wouldnt need to. The gameplay is literally exhausting. It doesnt feel good to play. Garbage game
@@IcarusFaIlen That's ridiculous. It is all about personal preference. I don't find Call of Duty fun to play where as millions of others disagree on it. I don't need those people to make excuses for it when it won't change my mind. I just played Alan Wake last weekend, and it is challenging and different and I love that about it, also there is much more to it gameplay wise than what is mentioned in this video is all I am saying.
@@vivaladokkywell said!
I didn't hear any criticism. Just crying.
Too be fair the combat in the first game does kinda suck, but not for the reason he says
It is kinda clunky and annoying at times, especially the poltergeist items (I would audibly groan every time they were apart of a level)
@@pennplayz Clunky? How? That games combat system is very simple but anything but clunky
@@JayKordichloverthe movement of wake can be almost tank control like, I especially didn’t like that we didn’t have a stamina meter (even though the flashlight and health AND gun all had one), I also didn’t really like how the dodge system worked at times. I know you can’t just be speedy mczoom but like come on I should be able to dodge in a run. I ESPECIALLY hated the dumb fucking spin that would disorient me when I would pull out a flare around a horde!
@@nickandbarry1777you clearly have never played Alan wake, the game is nowhere near tank control. A real tank control games are classic resident evil where in Alan wake you can move your camera freely
@@HeluvaWeirdo yeah I can agree with this, AW2 has a closer system to tank controls than AW1 did, I guess the real word I’m meaning to use is clunky controls. Very clunky compared to the new one. I’d like to say though that tank controls don’t need a fixed camera, it’s mainly the movement and yeah AW1 doesn’t fit that.
“It just doesn’t work” is a crazy way to describe a game that sold 3 million copies and received two sequels
We don't talk about American Nightmare.
@@Aquafootamerican nightmare would’ve dissapointed me had i bought it for the same price as the original, decent but kinda like the dead space 3 of alan wake
@@drepdrained
American nightmare was better.
@@MediocreNed than..?
@@drepdrained Alan Wake 1. It did attempt to fix some of problems with combat. Weapon variety, enemy variety, and more responsive controls. Would be better if there was at least two weapons that didn't need to use flashlight on enemies instead of just crossbow.
How to dislike a video twice?
Looks like the Dark Place is controlling the haters
I feel like this guy can count on his fingers how many books he’s read. That would explain why the narration thing frustrates him lol
lololol
I barely read any books and I find the narration to be incredible
i havent read book since kindergarden fairy tales and im 100% ok with it hes just anoyed easily type of person
Counter point, it’s a video game not a book. Soulslikes have taken over most the industry because people like to play games, not watch them
@@carlh.8832depends on the type of People right? Why do you think People Liked things Like Detroit become human, heavy rain, Wolf among us,...?
Alan Wake was an amazing first playthrough and I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. Still love the game to death and I have high hopes for the sequel.
It was awful
Same here I love the first one 😊
I’ve played that game 7 times and it’s my favorite right next to bioshock
I come from the future its pretty good in my opinion
@@kingpoker7468imma try it out after hella years and the sequel dropped lol I’ve only heard good things over the years
This is the kind of dude that criticizes silent hill 2 for it's sluggish combat
Dawg didn’t listen to the story or get the manuscript 😂
Ah yes. Lets just shoot the shadow entities and not add any suspense to the horror game during combat or anything
This is an old comment. But people are clearly misunderstanding. I'm defending Alan Wake and calling the guy in the video a donut.
Thank you for your replies tho 💪
Maybe they should designed a better enemies so the game doesn't feel like luigi's mansion for insecure manchildren.
@@MediocreNed being part of the problem isn't being part of the solution
The first Alan wake is not a horror game. Its a psychological action thriller
@@madhouse9330 a horror game can be a very wide amount of things. In most cases, simply being jumpscared is considered horror.
It being psychological is not mutually exclusive.
@@FrankByDaylightit’s a psychological action thriller. You’ve never played a good quality game in your life if you hate on Alan wake for the jump scares of all things and on top of that it’s more than just jump scares and shooting things, that’s 10% of what the game really has to offer. You forget there’s a story for each event, it’s largely a story based game. That doesn’t make it a bad game, you just probably prefer another genre. Maybe take time out of your day to actually play the game with some nice surround sound headphones and you’ll understand the gritty and dark atmosphere along with the beautiful story the game has to offer.
What he explained is why i love the game lol. I felt the combat was great and I really liked his narration, as it makes sense from a story perspective.
Gross.
Only thing I don't like about the combat is how often enemies like to spawn behind you
You can tell he looks at people and does the eye judging thing.
It's okay to be wrong sometimes
That's why I love Control even more, but I can't help but want to know more about the story and universe so I'll still be playing AW2.
Well yes the gameplay was dogshit I hope that AW2 has similar gameplay like control.
@@AaronBiswasgameplay was good broo its just new to us gamers we dont have much practice at those controls
@@simbeep nah I think controls are a bit dated. Hopefully AW2 will solve this.
It's way better in AW2
This guys favorite game is probably the newest COD every year. Or Fortnite.
I know the first Alan wake game’s combat might feel repetitive at some point in the game but its nowhere near the definition of terrible
I'm not gonna lie, the narration ruins the immersion and creepiness of the series.
But then I realized after playing both 1 and 2 that it wasn't supposed to be a horror game, it's just the antagonists are turning it into a horror story.
I mean.. Control and Quantum Break are in the same universe, but they're action games.
When I accepted that fact, I started loving it.
Wait until he finds out every bit of Alan wake is narrative because he’s going through his own written story based off his horror books. It’s supposed to capture the feeling of being in a Alan wake book itself perfectly.
@@FirstNameThirdName-gj3wm is English grammar harder than the game?
Here's the issue.
You're adding Narration on top of a narrative that already has narration.
Ive seen no Game get away with this besides Alana wake.
People understand he's narrating his own events from his book, but the story is happening to him he doesn't have to consistently narrate the events we experience and see taking place.
The literal only Defense people have for this criticism is that well he's narrating his own book; yea how does that take away from any potential annoyance?
@@Synical02the annoyance is part of the story, imagine being trapped in your book, knowing everything and with each step you take you remember what you wrote
They weren't horror stories, that was just the effect the Dark Place has on the tales that Alan wrote
Totally disagree with this. The light mechanic is great. As it has a few complexities like when you are aiming your torch at an opponent your visibility is limited and it brings in a tactical element to gameplay. Not to mention the survival element of running out of batteries etc.
And makes you think fast on your feet too. Alan Wake is one reason my reflexes for other games is quicker because I had to be quick in order to deal with the Taken and not die.
The reason the narration works is because you need to realize the context of what the story takes place in. Your are effectively playing out the events of a book with your character (and narrator) literally being the Author.
It also kinda gives a sense that the book is being written in real time as you progress.
I also really like the mechanic of having to remove their shields with light cause it means you’re not allowed to brute force your way through fights (to an extent) and you have to focus on removing their shields first. In a lot of scenarios the enemies are going to be trying to kill you while you drop their shields so it makes fights pretty tense as you try to multitask dropping shields while also avoiding attacks.
Hold on a second, I love Alan wake but I’m not sure I can disagree with anything this man said 😂
Of course you can disagree with him. He's wrong.
1 the flash light is supposed to be weak, you get consumables that drop the shadow armor instantly and part of the gameplay is deciding when to use them vs dealing with enemies using your weak light source. If the flashlight instantly dropped shadow armor, the game would be trivial and you could kill packs of enemies with ease.
2 the shadow armor is a completely separate mechanic from the enemies' health. It's like playing a space game where your enemy has shields. Your kinetic weapons do little or nothing to shields, and your EMP weapons do nothing to the ship's hull. You need to use the correct weapons to defeat enemies.
I mean he is kind of right. The story and setting do a lot of heavy lifting imo. Whenever i did replay the game i wasnt replaying to experience the combat again because it was fun; i replayed it just to kind of hear the story again and find easter eggs 🤷🏿♂️ as far as him saying "it just doesnt work" definitely wrong about that. Its a solid above average horror game. Not the best but good enough to be apart of the discussion.
That's because you don't really love Alan Wake, otherwise you'd see how asinine this critique is.
@@joeycheckers114You can love something despite it's flaws
@@oldmacheath4453it's not a flaw though. The action pacing can make it feel weird. It's gonna feel better in the new game cause of the survival horror pacing.
You’d better quit Alan Wake critics always get written into his stories to have terrible deaths (I am Alan Wake)
The dude doesn't understand great storytelling and that AW is a WRITER, and he NARRATES like he is telling a story . The gameplay gets intense, and it's fun. The reason you have to shine the light is to pierce through the darkness. It is a game mechanic that fits the story. So what it is like pointing a gun. They did something new and different. So you don't like when creators add something different to a game. Shining the light is clever. It fits for story purpose, and it is a cool mechanic. And it isn't the same as aiming the gun because it has a different purpose. How would you have the flashlight mechanic without it feeling the same as aiming a gun?? There are not many ways to do it. And YES, it does work.. Your opinion is your opinion. It may be a stupid, close-minded, creativity hating opinion, but it is your stupid opinion. You own it..
Oh wow it's almost like Alan Wake is a dark, psychological, story-driven thriller not a third person action shooter
This game is not even scary, its boring af. I can play this to get tired. 🥱😴
@th.k.96 Saying a horror game isn't scary is not the flex you think it is. And if this game bored you, then go back to playing games more your speed, like Fortnite
@@firefly5677 I play the old Star Wars Battlefront 2 HvV, I need waaay more speed and fadt action. This game is for seniors.
@@firefly5677 These jumpscares pathetic. It's the cheapest kind of horror. That is not psychological. Its a sign of a lack of creativity.
I agree the combat of the first game can feel a bit stale after a while, BUT the story is incredible and deeply interesting
I like the game, but I agree the gameplay can be better, too generic
It’s a fact
Seems like he’s been taken 😂
The fact that you have to shine light in to your enemies in order to debilitate them conveys a meaning
1 was great.. I replay it every so often, just picked up 2 and is not as linear as the 1st, feels more like a walking and a detective simulator combined.. maybe it’ll get better after Local Girls.
100% AGREE(mostly) the storytelling is great but the gameplay is abysmal
I'm currently playing Alan Wake for the first time and I have to agree with him 😂 the combat isn't as satisfying as other similar genre games I've played. RE4 (original) and The Evil Within (1) do a much better job at making combat fun. idk if it's the absence of enemies not dropping loot or if it's the flash light system, but goddamn it gets stressful to reload the flashlight AND gun at the same time and ofc somehow the gun does not fully reload like any other shooter.
But story and visual presentation I really like so far. Gameplay is meh to okish imo. Like even Control is more fun to shoot even tho it has respawning enemies. I really wonder how they did it in Alan Wake II.
I personally find it hilarious that the critics and toxic player bases can't figure out that sometimes, developers makes the mechanics hard to use intentionally to add suspense. And those games end up recieving unfair amount of hate and criticisim.
The Evil Within did that, The Callisto Protocol did that, Alan Wake did that. To me, all are aweasome games. It's their style. They are being unique by their stylish choices.
Not every game has to be Resident Evil 4, and shouldn't get hate for not being so. Not every game has to have satisfying combat. Not every game has to be easy to play. Not every game has to be an open world, back tracking heavy, non-liner, expolarion based 20+ hour experience.
I watched few streamers that hate Evil Within 1, and most of the time it's their fault when they die, and they are mad at the game. It's like they think that they have to be good at every game, or the game sucks.
I agreed until you said Callisto protocol. They marketed it as the next dead space and then gave us the most generic melee combat ever. Also the story sucks legit the only thing it has going for it are the visuals if you can run it at good settings
@angel__king3768 I found it pretty fun, it's definitely not dead space levels of quality but it was still interesting
@@angel__king I personally see The Callisto Protocol no different than 2023's version of The Evil Within. If The Evil Within was came out in 2023 with today's graphical standards, this would be the exact same treament it would get. Yet many thinks it is a masterpiece today.
The game (TCP) itself did an extraordinary work with the graphics and atmosphere. And I really liked the story especially after finding interesting details in my other playthroughs. I highly recommend "TeryonTheHuman"s review and story explanation of The Callisto Protocol.
TCP tried a different way of storytelling that I never saw in any other game before, that almost every line that is said in the game gains a different meaning later on in the story, like the first line of Jacob being "I do not belong here" right after entering The Black Iron Prison, and his last line being "I do belong here" right before getting out, a completely deserved line delivered with dedication and acceptence of fate.
Every character served multiple functions other than just being characters. Like Max being Jacob's conscience and torturing him throghout his journey, just to make him realize what he has done. And Ferris representing the judgement and price of what he has done, never stops chasing him no matter how many times Jacob escapes his grasp or temporarily defeats him (Including the ending scene of the main campaign). Because *there is always a price to pay* and *you can't run from what you've done* ...
The game is an 8/10 to me, one of the best games I have played this year along with RE4R and ALAN WAKE II.
@@1GTX1I really love the evil within
This guy... not everyone have the same taste but cmon man, this was game very good.
Tbh i hate the gameplay. Is this a "git gud"? maybe but i hate the fast guys, it feels like no matter what I do i get stun locked and jumped. The story is peak tho
The remaster is flipping terrifying. They darkened up the areas up to make the light your only source to see. I was shitting my pants the whole time.
Bro is literally living a fucking thriller book HE WROTE, of course it’s being narrated, combat does run dry at some point though but it’s still a fire game
ITS NOT A LAKE ITS A OCEAN!
It's not a loop, it's a spiral
It's a brave thing to be so wrong willingly
And this is why I don't subscribe to whatculture. Because I ask myself...what talent?
I mean sure, if you're gonna just be that wrong on the internet, go off sweetie
You don’t like Alan Wake? Oh, don’t worry, this is just a game for people with good taste
damn dude , you got that right lol
*Meanwhile*
This guy: Fortnite is a masterpiece!!!!
I mean... It literally revolutionized the gaming market, the game was great until it got so big it became that popular kid everyone hates but they don't know why@@snake_et_queen
the dude played the game but didn't play the game you feel me
Lol this cracked me up. Personally I loved the game but I can see where it wasn't for everyone
I second this.
I love it so far. I play it for the first time. 👍
@@Kvs-vf9ntyour grammar explains why you like it.
@@contractzero1194did that make you feel better or something lol
Alan Wake is one of my favorite video games of all time, full stop. With that being said, the movement of Alan is mainly what irritated me in the game, along with the laughably minuscule amount of time that you can actually run. The dodge mechanic was mid as well. I am happy to say that Alan Wake II has improved on every single one my critiques tho.
i was wrong in the first few chapters but once the combat started clicking, it's been an enjoyable experience
shining a torch to ennemies for 3-4 seconds then shoot: I CAN'T
shooting an ennemy during 30sec because he's 2 lvl up from you. "It's ok".
I don’t see how the combat is any worst then most games of that era. Plus the story and setting set Alan Wake apart. Easily one of the games of that generation, yet somehow it is a bit under appreciated with takes like this IMO.
You want to play horror game. But expect a mechanic exactly like any shooter out there. smh...
I get the complaints. And yes. If you play the game a thousand times like I did, it all does get kinda old. But the first few times around, there's all sorts of little nuances to the story that you'll notice that help emphasize the world. The gameplay can get kind of frustrating at times, but if you're annoyed, just run away. It's that easy.
Don’t diss Alan wake there game out there that are 20 times worse I love Alan wake voice it make the game would play any game with that guy voice in 😕
The things he complained about are the things I like about the game😂😂
Looks like dude didn't got his cookies today
Tell me you're dumb without telling me.
Sounds like skill issue to me
If 'you must be fun at parties' was a person
What is the name of the original video?
More like why is alan wake 2 not on disc 😢😢
He literally gen z
Everyone is entitled to their opinions.....no matter how shitty it is.
I say give him a few more hours of game time. He'll come around.
It's survival horror. The first game was survival action.
Alan Wake was amazing.
Except for the fact that he can’t run for more than 10 seconds before being completely exhausted.
@@Flexincipleevery game has flaws
@justinzheng8507 he's a writer not a athlete
@@FirstNameThirdName-gj3wm ok?
If you have to lie about what happens in the game then it shows what little amount of criticism you actaully have. The thing he said about the door is just a total lie
A lot of us are grown ass men with differences of opinions who will gladly express those opinions. This is such a steamlined, agreeable with anything era we're in lol
To be fair I even hear fans say they love it despite admittedly being mid (which oddly enough makes me wanna play it)
chapter 5: alan gets a magical weapon that he uses 1 time to make it daytime then 1 more. but not while goes to the lake. they gave him a magic wand without a limit is how the manuscript was written
This guy AND fans of the game are BOTH CORRECT. The game is great, if you figure out how to play it through experimentation. If you are rushed through it, then the tougher parts of the game will be unbearable. A lot of times in tough parts the flashlights just won't cut it. You have to use a flare, a flashbang grenade, or a flare gun to clear the tougher parts. However the game does a poor job of explaining that to you, so it's easy to overlook that and have trouble with the game.
However, once you master the timing on when to use different weapons, then you can have a blast with the game.
Using a grenade here and there is hardly peak tactics. Every single combat encounter is exactly the same. The game is beyond tedious and the writing is so bad, like an alien tried to mimic the way Americans act in movies.
@@cassmi8783Like all those dumb games the Japs make to 'appeal to Americans'?
I also feel the Gunplay is just filler, but the enviromental triggers in the first DLC make it so much fun.
10 seconds , i don't think so, when you are facing more than 2 enemies they attack so quickly that you don't even get 5 clear seconds to aim the flash light, every time you dodge you aim for like 3 seconds and then someone just throws an axe on your ass lol
Hate on it but this was one of my top horror games it had a crazy story that kept you guessing and it had a unique combate that always kept you on edge love this game
What do people really want, if it was anything else say like halo feels but still Alan wake story it’d suck, and you’ll still complain.. just buy the game and give it to someone who will actually love to read and learn instead of this guy
Remember guys, everyone has a opinion, but that's don't mean that the opinion is valid or good.
If you could simply shoot the enemies, the guns are already strong enough to take the enemies down, so there would be no tension in the combat. Him saying its borning or flawed makes me doubt hes beaten the first two chapters.
From enemies that circle your blind spots, to enemies that run straight at you, or birds ands lighting fast enemies keen on catching you off guard. Inanimate objects that throw themselves at you, or possessed vehicles that run you over, theyve crafted an extremely in depth combat system that makes the horror work while being totally fair to the player, even on nightmare. And this is despite them giving you several easy ways to dispatch enemies (i.e, the flashbangs, flares and the flaregun, the heavy duty flashlight and torch)
If alan wakes combat is "kobbled together," then cod's must be the definition of brain rot.
You just realized that after several chapters in?! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
All love yo!
Whose gonna tell him about Alan Wake 2?
To quote a book it was heavily inspired on “This is not for you.”
Im actually enjoying the game.
I have recently finished Alan Wake Remaster and have moved onto Control , I feel that the combat aspects of both these games are pretty subpar but the story telling and world is top tier
Lmao this dude eats french fries covered in wet peas
The game does make an attempt to bring its themes of light vs. darkness into the gameplay through the dark shields, and I do think it struggles to stick the landing on that.
However, it's fundamentally no different than popping an energy shield on a Covenant Elite with a plasma weapon. The game also quickly provides more means to eliminate dark shields (flares) and just delete enemies off the map entirely (flashbangs, the flare gun, environmental explosives). This is someone who insisted on using the same strategy the entire game even when offered other options, and then complains that the game is repetitive.
It's not the most interesting shooter sandbox out there, but it's far from straight up bad. If someone unironically thinks AW1 is a bad game, they've clearly never played a genuinely bad game before.
Also, the in-game narration is to emphasize the fact that the story is a book that the main character is writing as you progress through it. It's also important to remember that Remedy haa their roots in the noir aesthetic of the Max Payne games. All of their characters have internal monologues, and unlike most games that use that as a design choice, all of their characters actually have different story reasons for it.
Max is a detective in a noir thriller, Alan is narrating his story as he writes, and Jesse is interacting with Polaris in her head. This is further reinforced in Alan Wake 2, as Alan continues narrating his side of the game, while Saga barely has an internal monologue at all during gameplay, because she saves it for when she's deducing clues and facts for the case she's working on. It's actually a fascinating creative choice with more thought put into it than you might think if you care to look.
This is the wildest and worst take I’ve ever heard.
Seems i was the only one expecting Spawn
Yea hate on the little game, but give us more Call of Duties
I guess he never learned the story
Guy's completely right
1:49:56 I now have one problem with Kraven, you didn’t voice him enough
Worst part about the game was that they take away ALL of your Equipment EVERYTIME at the end of a level!
The suspense is amazing and the combat is survival horror material except you can't save items. :((
The combat is the at the bottom of priorities in a game like this 😂
Y’all need to stop D riding the game was not good
There is a symbolic purpose of aiming light at enemies
To end their darkness before u can shoot to kill them
Its like game companies cant even try new things because of you haters
I loved alan wake and looking forward to alan wake 2
Yes, but the tradeoff for that symbolism is that it makes every gun and fight feel the same. It feels like i'm playing luigi mansion for MANLY MEN(tm). There should of been a few guns that didn't need to shine the light at to make the fights a little less monotonous.
@@MediocreNed like a shotgun with an inbuilt flashlight which can be used directly
But there is a flare gun in the game which can be used directly but yes there is no ammo
I feel like the Alan wake experience was just something different but sometimes it felt like a grind
@@MediocreNed ur right maybe in part 2 they might notice this
I loved Alan wake 1 and the wee spin off we got. But I was so surprised when the second one was announced and right now am half way through that one and loving it
I dont think the combat is bad its just a bit clunky sometimes. But it felt kinda reasonable. Like Alan is a famous writer, of course he's not the best at running or shooting or dodging. He literally keels over if you run too long. I think it was mildly intentional that the combat be difficult
Bad game takes 101!
On the flip side if the game meant you just shot people that had been overtaken by a dark resonance it’d be “why are you just shooting them when their weakness is light! Why can’t you use a torch to weaken them?! The torch is literally in Alan wakes hand! It just doesn’t make sense!”
I want Matthew Poretta to narrate my whole life