The acrylic durable from Johno’s has been a consistent performer overall, I have no complaints from it in white or light tints. The darker tints are a bit lacking in opacity at times, but there’s far worse at far higher prices. Recently did a whole 8 bed property in nothing but this stuff based on client request, and I’ve had no dramas. Last week I did a whole house in F&B (The customer specifically didn’t want a colour match, only F&B) and I quoted accordingly knowing I’d be dealing with flashing and crap coverage, the will to live was lost after the first room. To any of the public reading this, trust your tradesmen. We don’t just want to use the good stuff to increase the cost; it’s a better finish, with better durability and quicker turnaround for you in the end. Time is money for you and for us, give us the tools and we will give you a stellar result.
Never really gone with Johnstone paint as happy with the Leyland but this was bought by client when i said colour match setting plaster in durable matt & they got this, impressed
Use it all the time and struggle to find a bad word to say other that it can be a bit shiny for a matt so I tend to consider where it’s going, how the light may hit it and advise the client accordingly. I find it the best in terms of moisture resistance too.
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Possibly ! R&D . Also your comment about having product on the shelf [for quick purchase] is a good point, merchants have got to change this, also stock up if they do stock, more than three or four tins, it would bring back a bit of confidence, you can get out of a corner quickly !
Moved over from that years ago.. It burnishes when rubbed..cracks on caulks. Needs guardz over linking paper or the seems will crack. Coverage ain't fantastic when compared to cleanable matt & ultralast which are never more than 2 coats on most jobs..but it does have a good spread rate and I think they've added an anti mould chemical in there now for bathrooms & kitchens. Granted its slightly cheaper but if the customer wants something cleanable I'd look at others for the added benifits and time saved and ease of use. If it's just a case of the standard room and a slight upgrade from vm I'd go perfect matt hands down if you've got a decent account. All my opinion obviously 🎉
@@TheWESTSIDE1967not correct as this paint doesn’t have anti reflective technology. It still has a slight sheen to it. Been decorating long enough mate. This paint isn’t really designed for ceilings.! Yes you can apply it to a ceiling but you can apply apple sauce to a ceiling. Doesn’t mean it’s correct.
@@lowdowndirtybass4465 & I've been painting 39 yrs mate, I'm going by what he said, non flashing etc as Johnstone is not my preferred choice & there has always been flashing issues with matt, you can't teach me anything mate, i also tell clients as i did today not to bother with durable scrubbable etc on ceilings as it's extra cost & not necessary as nobody's touching it 😘
@@TheWESTSIDE1967 so what’s your point? Your comment was, and I quote no flashing so win win! Yet It will flash so I’m not sure what your argument is as your now saying you wouldn’t recommend it and your opinion is based now upon what Phil said? As for not being able to teach you something, I wasn’t trying to teach just stating facts but there is a saying about the unteachable man and I’d rather be a fool than say I’m unteachable I’ve been painting 60 years but I will always take on sound advice and try new things.
@@lowdowndirtybass4465 i never said i wouldn't recommend ? I've not used, I'm saying if it's as good as Phil said & more importantly doesn't flash then yeh it's win win, as it seems to tick all the boxes, matt emulsion on ceilings has always flashed where there's light flooding in especially when large as impossible to keep edge wet to roll over onto in sections , spraying is the best way or the non flashing Tikkurula, 60yrs really ? When did you start age of 5
Hi Phil, how much do you normally charge on average per m2 including paint? Just want to pick your brains as I have a massive job to price and struggling to get a quote together This is for walls only by the way 👍🏻
Worth a try is B&Q’s GoodHome Tough & Durable Brilliant White Matt at £22 for 5L - surprisingly good. You might get this mentioned by Customers since it is a Best Buy from the Which? consumer organisation. I can only vouch for the Brilliant White.
I used it recently on a job where the customer already had the paint and wasn't expecting much, but I couldn't believe how well the white covered over a lightish grey. For the price, it's well worth it.
Not very scrubbable at all. I've used it when it was supplied by a customer for a small downstairs wc. Took 4 coats to cover a light grey and even then it was grinning. She tried to clean her grandsons sick off it one afternoon and the paint was coming off on the microfiber cloth. I came back and put Isomat Premium on for her and she was delighted. Her grandson can throw up over it all he wants now! 😅
Professional decorator up north. My thoughts…use to use it a few years ago and till I used in in my own hallway and came to wash away finger marks, I left a mark where rubbed with a cloth, months after curing. Maybe they have changed it but it’s just not durable for me, I’ve heard a few comments on the forum saying this aswell, it was mixed into a farrow and ball colour, just a generic grey like ammonite or something. Just my thoughts and it’s each to our own, just be careful selling it to customers as wipeable/durable etc
Yeah all the scrubby matts used to do that up until a couple of years ago. It was something to do with the wiping action actually polishing the acrylic binders in the coating and creating a flash point. Basically buffing it up. I think they all still do this to a certain extent if you scrutinise them in a certain light, the only one I've used that doesn't is Benjamin Moore Scuff X matte.
Got this on two bedroom walls - mixed to a light grey it’s nice and flat but a small mark wiped away shows a blotch so not as durable as expected. In a dark blue on a feature wall there is flashing where filler was used on the seams of the wall rock lining underneath despite 3 coats and more sheen than expected for a matt. In summary, good colour match, better in light colour, less so in dark colour. Done 12 months ago so current formulation. Next time I’m going for Dulux Heritage Velvet Matt.
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator wasn’t me Phil it was a pro 🤦🏻♂️ butted them together then whacked an inch wide band of filler down the seams. Flashes worse than Kyle Walker on a night out.
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator to be fair he has done some very high quality work for us before but never again sadly. My assumption is that he is inexperienced with painting lining paper (which I didn’t want but was his preference as the surface under old wallpaper needed a lot of work and was concerned that the new paint may not take well over what looked like silk). Lesson learnt anyway, I do it all myself now as I can get 90% of the finish with none of the cost. I only paint, no paper but that works for us.
@@helenalovelock1030 it's not the paint exposing itself it's when the paint has dried patchy roller or brush marks mainly visible on areas with lots of light flooding in
No trust me it's the paint, I've been in the game 37 yrs now, I'm currently using Crown non flashing matt & applying exactly the same way with mini roller on edging & 12 inch purdy on main & it's really good, i won't use the cheap Leyland matt again, this is double in price but worth it, the problem is you just can't get a large ceiling covered while keeping the edge wet where last rolled,dries too quick,ok on smaller ceilings but it's mainly the open plan kitchens & lounge that have loads of light flooding in
Hey Phill. Good video 👍🏼. I’ve been spraying the Johnstone’s Aqua Gard primer undercoat and Aqua Gard Satin this week. I spoke to the good people at PPG and they told me it’s a PU paint. Been spraying Acrylic paint until now but would like to go forward with the PU as it is far more durable and it seems to go a lot further than other paints I’ve sprayed using airless. Could you do a video on spraying PU Paints? Cheers
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Phil, I have discovered I have a 27% discount at dulux decorator centres. Which of their products would you recommend for walls and ceilings? Going for Heritage on woodwork.
It does come in as one of the flattest Matt washables amongst the big 3 trade brands and their colour matches are usually very good. Disadvantages - opacity can be poor in bold F&ball colour matches and their own bold colours. I've seen 3,4 & 5 coats on these on occasions. Washability-wise, Clean Extreme is far superior for the same money imo. I note that Phil said wipeable, not washable. That's about right. Aqua guard probably does what it says on the tin but runs like the clappers so slow labour-wise and doesn't last on hand rails either. So, like Phil, it's nothing to write home about.
F&B card room green, mix in it and opacity was two coats over white. So wasn't bad. Dark colours like the f&B OffBlack I've used in it, two coats, but don't look to hard at it, any dark colour can be critical.
I use to it everyday, it’s now no where near as good as it use to be. It will ruin your brush and roller sleeves within a few months of using it most days. The darker bases are almost like a soft Sheen finish and certainly isn’t durable either, wipe it with a lightly damp microfibres cloth and it will leave a shadow of where you’ve rubbed. The cleanable Matt is a way better product
seems to be a lot of people in the know here, so .. is it possible to have a matt black that doesnt show finger prints or even wiping it with a paper towel leaving long streaks. any recommendations ?
Nightmare to paint over existing though as it literally scrubs/washing off the service! Needs a major sand back to cover it. But as a paint we have it in our kitchen and it’s class
loads to pick from, I've done a number of product reviews..... like this video. Isomat Premium Color or Professional Color. Hanford & Green. Albany Duarble Matt. Tikkurila Optiva 3 or 5 Dulux Diamond Matt Crown Clean Extreme etc etc depends what you want to spend. If it's a durable Matt, you can't go wrong really in many products.
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator thanks think ive watched almost all of them now. Tbf they all seem in same price bracket. Was thinking isomat premium or optiva 5 but had couple qoutes from decorators now and they have their own go to so will prob take their advice. Was going to do myself and go with 1 of the 2 i mentioned but its a rabbit hole !
@@umranhu let the decorator get the paint, you won't save anything by getting it yourself. But asked what they use. You've already mentioned two good products.
just a quick note about the durable matt. Someone from the johnos tech department mentioned that it takes a couple of weeks for the paint to fully cure. It shouldnt be scrubbed before it is fully cured.
I thought the brilliant whites had a slightly blue stark cool undertone? I really want a pure very slightly warm white but no yellow more slightly creamy white but only a real tiny bit to give a tiny glow if that makes any sense at all
@helenalovelock1030 The undertones on brilliant whites are taken from the type of Titanium Dioxide pigment is used in the manufacture. There are two main methods of manufacturing them. Some will have a yellow undertone and some a blue. Unfortunately I do not know which companies use which ones. You can also get undertones from the other ingredients used to make them.
Used this on a hallway but had an issue with it,everyplace that i had caulked the previous day had the cracking affect to it,had to remove all caulk and use filler 😢
Jonnos this week released a new aqua guard gloss, primer/UC and matt. They all have a new scuff resistant matt emulsion. Would be nice if you can do a review of these products
This product isn't as good as it used to be I have recently used this on a job, hall stairs and landing over three floors. I sold it to the clients as a really durable product. After a few days of it being finished, there were hand marks on some of the walls. I wiped over those areas with a clean damp microfiber cloth Omg, the areas looked worse and after a few hours, stood out so bad, I had to repaint. This to me is not a product that can be wiped let alone be scrubbed. It used to be much better for this, but not now. I agree it goes on beautifully and covers extremely well too but durability, I have to put a huge?!!!! To it. I commented on this on your Facebook page and someone mentioned that the quality of this product isn't as good as it used to be as well Paint a panel with a dark grey and when dry, scrub it with a damp cloth and see what happens I have started using Johnstones smooth masonry in hallways now You can scrub that without a problem
I wonder what it would have been like if it had had a couple of weeks to properly go off??? Was thinking of using this as last lot of Tiklurila I used was full of lumps......worst emulsion ever.....and I love Tikkurila!
Love the Helmi and anti reflex 2 etc but the emulsion.....deary me! I should've complained......I think they threw a bag of grit in when they mixed it for me! I'll see where my local Isomat supplier is. Gotta say, I also generally like Johno's but it's getting some mixed reviews here. Thanks Phil@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
We have a matt paint in the bathroom, ruined by hand prints from kids with greasy hands from putting bike chains on etc, black oily grease and road grime isnt good for it.... If there is such a thing as kid & diy mechanic proof paint the company would be onto a winner
Oh yes there is. Other than something like this durable Matt. The H&G emulsion paint I tested a few videos back would suit... It has a slight sheen, as does Isomat Professional Color. Isomat Premium Color is the Matt finish. All would suit you Isomat P
I would on a ceiling... But I needed it for walls and ceilings.. Trouble is Teknos I can't get off the shelf. So no good when you need a paint quick The other room I used Isomat premium color. Ordered that in ready via brewers at the same time as picking this Job is up.
I'm not a lover of this, I found opacity awful. In fact after 2 walls I switched out to Dulux Diamond matt and the difference was night and day for opacity! Recently did a job where owner supplied Valspar trade tough matt though. Hands down the best durable I've used and I've just about tried all of them...i know your a Valspar hater Phil but it's worth a try
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator didn’t mean to come across as a dick btw! Big fan of your RUclips stuff. And definitely not saying you’re wrong. Just that my experience has been so different. I’ve had too many customers say it’s not holding up, for me to have huge amount of faith in it. On the other hand I’ve had nothing but positive comments from jobs where I had used Optiva 3/5 or Isomat premium (which I what use most of the time now). Ceilings I’m on AR2 bandwagon or MacPhersons Eclipse if it’s off the shelf.
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator just saw your comment about purchase of Tikkurila by PPG - hadn’t considered this but maybe it’s improved since I used it last….
@@maulstar1 lol. I didn't read it like that, don't worry. Eclipes is a cheap contract matt paint, false opacity , comes off on a damp sponge when wiped. AR2, Isomat Ceiling paint etc don't.
Because you can just use the same paint on the ceiling as the walls. No cutting in as such from the ceiling to the wall as there's not even a different sheen
The acrylic durable from Johno’s has been a consistent performer overall, I have no complaints from it in white or light tints. The darker tints are a bit lacking in opacity at times, but there’s far worse at far higher prices.
Recently did a whole 8 bed property in nothing but this stuff based on client request, and I’ve had no dramas. Last week I did a whole house in F&B (The customer specifically didn’t want a colour match, only F&B) and I quoted accordingly knowing I’d be dealing with flashing and crap coverage, the will to live was lost after the first room. To any of the public reading this, trust your tradesmen. We don’t just want to use the good stuff to increase the cost; it’s a better finish, with better durability and quicker turnaround for you in the end. Time is money for you and for us, give us the tools and we will give you a stellar result.
Never really gone with Johnstone paint as happy with the Leyland but this was bought by client when i said colour match setting plaster in durable matt & they got this, impressed
I have done most of my house walls with this Johnstones Trade Acrylic Matt, tinted to light grey 50GY 72012. Like it. 👍🏻
Use it all the time and struggle to find a bad word to say other that it can be a bit shiny for a matt so I tend to consider where it’s going, how the light may hit it and advise the client accordingly. I find it the best in terms of moisture resistance too.
Thank you Phil for your time, Jono's docent get the best press ! a lot of the time, at least now I have an alternative to consider 👍
Some products are better than others.
I wondered what if buying Tikkurila has helped with their R&D of paint.
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Possibly ! R&D . Also your comment about having product on the shelf [for quick purchase] is a good point, merchants have got to change this, also stock up if they do stock, more than three or four tins, it would bring back a bit of confidence, you can get out of a corner quickly !
I agree, used it in a rental flat and it was amazing. 😎
Used this to paint a office a couple of weeks ago mixed to zoffany quater mushroom and it went on a dream 👍🏻
Moved over from that years ago.. It burnishes when rubbed..cracks on caulks. Needs guardz over linking paper or the seems will crack. Coverage ain't fantastic when compared to cleanable matt & ultralast which are never more than 2 coats on most jobs..but it does have a good spread rate and I think they've added an anti mould chemical in there now for bathrooms & kitchens.
Granted its slightly cheaper but if the customer wants something cleanable I'd look at others for the added benifits and time saved and ease of use.
If it's just a case of the standard room and a slight upgrade from vm I'd go perfect matt hands down if you've got a decent account.
All my opinion obviously 🎉
Used this last week. It's going to be a big hit. Looks spray finished.
It covers mdf really well as long and you use 2 coats of mdf primer
Good job it’s got a scrub rating on those high traffic ceilings 😊
No flashing also so win win
@@TheWESTSIDE1967not correct as this paint doesn’t have anti reflective technology. It still has a slight sheen to it. Been decorating long enough mate. This paint isn’t really designed for ceilings.! Yes you can apply it to a ceiling but you can apply apple sauce to a ceiling. Doesn’t mean it’s correct.
@@lowdowndirtybass4465 & I've been painting 39 yrs mate, I'm going by what he said, non flashing etc as Johnstone is not my preferred choice & there has always been flashing issues with matt, you can't teach me anything mate, i also tell clients as i did today not to bother with durable scrubbable etc on ceilings as it's extra cost & not necessary as nobody's touching it 😘
@@TheWESTSIDE1967 so what’s your point? Your comment was, and I quote no flashing so win win! Yet It will flash so I’m not sure what your argument is as your now saying you wouldn’t recommend it and your opinion is based now upon what Phil said? As for not being able to teach you something, I wasn’t trying to teach just stating facts but there is a saying about the unteachable man and I’d rather be a fool than say I’m unteachable I’ve been painting 60 years but I will always take on sound advice and try new things.
@@lowdowndirtybass4465 i never said i wouldn't recommend ? I've not used, I'm saying if it's as good as Phil said & more importantly doesn't flash then yeh it's win win, as it seems to tick all the boxes, matt emulsion on ceilings has always flashed where there's light flooding in especially when large as impossible to keep edge wet to roll over onto in sections , spraying is the best way or the non flashing Tikkurula, 60yrs really ? When did you start age of 5
Hi Phil, how much do you normally charge on average per m2 including paint? Just want to pick your brains as I have a massive job to price and struggling to get a quote together
This is for walls only by the way 👍🏻
Pm me on Instagram or my FB page
coverplus finishes about the same as this brill for dry room ceilings
it's not a durable though Jack. It's more a contract mat finish isn't it?
Worth a try is B&Q’s GoodHome Tough & Durable Brilliant White Matt at £22 for 5L - surprisingly good. You might get this mentioned by Customers since it is a Best Buy from the Which? consumer organisation. I can only vouch for the Brilliant White.
I used it recently on a job where the customer already had the paint and wasn't expecting much, but I couldn't believe how well the white covered over a lightish grey. For the price, it's well worth it.
Not very scrubbable at all. I've used it when it was supplied by a customer for a small downstairs wc. Took 4 coats to cover a light grey and even then it was grinning. She tried to clean her grandsons sick off it one afternoon and the paint was coming off on the microfiber cloth. I came back and put Isomat Premium on for her and she was delighted. Her grandson can throw up over it all he wants now! 😅
Professional decorator up north. My thoughts…use to use it a few years ago and till I used in in my own hallway and came to wash away finger marks, I left a mark where rubbed with a cloth, months after curing.
Maybe they have changed it but it’s just not durable for me, I’ve heard a few comments on the forum saying this aswell, it was mixed into a farrow and ball colour, just a generic grey like ammonite or something.
Just my thoughts and it’s each to our own, just be careful selling it to customers as wipeable/durable etc
Spot on.. my thoughts exactly... there are better durable ones.... I use caparol capasilan
was that the one like i had with the Mould resistant stuff in it?
It was about 7 years ago so doubt it.
Maybe a future video to test 😂
Yeah all the scrubby matts used to do that up until a couple of years ago. It was something to do with the wiping action actually polishing the acrylic binders in the coating and creating a flash point. Basically buffing it up. I think they all still do this to a certain extent if you scrutinise them in a certain light, the only one I've used that doesn't is Benjamin Moore Scuff X matte.
Never had problems with it, always my wall paint
it's good stuff. PPGs 2nd best paint ;)
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
What’s the first best. ?
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator and perfect Matt 😉
Got this on two bedroom walls - mixed to a light grey it’s nice and flat but a small mark wiped away shows a blotch so not as durable as expected. In a dark blue on a feature wall there is flashing where filler was used on the seams of the wall
rock lining underneath despite 3 coats and more sheen than expected for a matt. In summary, good colour match, better in light colour, less so in dark colour. Done 12 months ago so current formulation. Next time I’m going for Dulux Heritage Velvet Matt.
next time try Isomat Premium color and let me know.
Also..... butt joint.... don't fill joints.... why? cus of what you've just said ;)
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator wasn’t me Phil it was a pro 🤦🏻♂️ butted them together then whacked an inch wide band of filler down the seams. Flashes worse than Kyle Walker on a night out.
@@Liverpool1ne lol
clearly not a pro but telling people that lol
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator to be fair he has done some very high quality work for us before but never again sadly. My assumption is that he is inexperienced with painting lining paper (which I didn’t want but was his preference as the surface under old wallpaper needed a lot of work and was concerned that the new paint may not take well over what looked like silk). Lesson learnt anyway, I do it all myself now as I can get 90% of the finish with none of the cost. I only paint, no paper but that works for us.
it's what value you put on your time too, to consider :)
Its a great product no flashing
What is flashing please ?
@@helenalovelock1030 no paint brush marks or roller marks
@@helenalovelock1030 it's not the paint exposing itself it's when the paint has dried patchy roller or brush marks mainly visible on areas with lots of light flooding in
No trust me it's the paint, I've been in the game 37 yrs now, I'm currently using Crown non flashing matt & applying exactly the same way with mini roller on edging & 12 inch purdy on main & it's really good, i won't use the cheap Leyland matt again, this is double in price but worth it, the problem is you just can't get a large ceiling covered while keeping the edge wet where last rolled,dries too quick,ok on smaller ceilings but it's mainly the open plan kitchens & lounge that have loads of light flooding in
Hey Phill. Good video 👍🏼. I’ve been spraying the Johnstone’s Aqua Gard primer undercoat and Aqua Gard Satin this week. I spoke to the good people at PPG and they told me it’s a PU paint. Been spraying Acrylic paint until now but would like to go forward with the PU as it is far more durable and it seems to go a lot further than other paints I’ve sprayed using airless. Could you do a video on spraying PU Paints? Cheers
Which paints do you have in mind?
If you like the PU binders then try caparal PU satin. Doesn't run like aqua guard and imo has better opacity. 👍
@@AspireDecorating done a video on that.
What is PPG please ?
@@helenalovelock1030 Pittsburgh Paint Group.
How is it compared to dulux diamond matt
Phil, have you tried, reviewed, Johnos Coveplus Matt? From all of your reviews which Matt emulsion do you prefer for pre painted walls and ceilings?
ceilings, an anti reflex paint... Isomat or Tikkurila.
wall... a durable matt.... most brands are good/ tikkurila, Jono, Albany, etc
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Phil, I have discovered I have a 27% discount at dulux decorator centres. Which of their products would you recommend for walls and ceilings? Going for Heritage on woodwork.
It does come in as one of the flattest Matt washables amongst the big 3 trade brands and their colour matches are usually very good. Disadvantages - opacity can be poor in bold F&ball colour matches and their own bold colours. I've seen 3,4 & 5 coats on these on occasions. Washability-wise, Clean Extreme is far superior for the same money imo. I note that Phil said wipeable, not washable. That's about right.
Aqua guard probably does what it says on the tin but runs like the clappers so slow labour-wise and doesn't last on hand rails either.
So, like Phil, it's nothing to write home about.
F&B card room green, mix in it and opacity was two coats over white.
So wasn't bad.
Dark colours like the f&B OffBlack I've used in it, two coats, but don't look to hard at it, any dark colour can be critical.
I use to it everyday, it’s now no where near as good as it use to be. It will ruin your brush and roller sleeves within a few months of using it most days. The darker bases are almost like a soft Sheen finish and certainly isn’t durable either, wipe it with a lightly damp microfibres cloth and it will leave a shadow of where you’ve rubbed. The cleanable Matt is a way better product
seems to be a lot of people in the know here, so .. is it possible to have a matt black that doesnt show finger prints or even wiping it with a paper towel leaving long streaks. any recommendations ?
Nope. A Matt black, no.
Did you watch my LickPro video on the TV/games room make over?
Nightmare to paint over existing though as it literally scrubs/washing off the service! Needs a major sand back to cover it. But as a paint we have it in our kitchen and it’s class
Whats their best quality finish scrubbable paint for walls in a colour ? See this, cova plus and ultra last product.
loads to pick from, I've done a number of product reviews..... like this video.
Isomat Premium Color or Professional Color.
Hanford & Green.
Albany Duarble Matt.
Tikkurila Optiva 3 or 5
Dulux Diamond Matt
Crown Clean Extreme
etc etc
depends what you want to spend.
If it's a durable Matt, you can't go wrong really in many products.
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator thanks think ive watched almost all of them now. Tbf they all seem in same price bracket. Was thinking isomat premium or optiva 5 but had couple qoutes from decorators now and they have their own go to so will prob take their advice. Was going to do myself and go with 1 of the 2 i mentioned but its a rabbit hole !
@@umranhu let the decorator get the paint, you won't save anything by getting it yourself.
But asked what they use.
You've already mentioned two good products.
Jono's is the best out of crown and dulux with a lot things
Was the other coloured emulsion a blue F&B colour and if so what was the colour please
in that room?
we did the back walls in #57 off-black (F&B) mixed in the jono durable matt.
just a quick note about the durable matt. Someone from the johnos tech department mentioned that it takes a couple of weeks for the paint to fully cure. It shouldnt be scrubbed before it is fully cured.
i would half that by a week as they just cover themselves
@@TheWESTSIDE1967 yeah, I wouldn't disagree with that👍
I thought the brilliant whites had a slightly blue stark cool undertone? I really want a pure very slightly warm white but no yellow more slightly creamy white but only a real tiny bit to give a tiny glow if that makes any sense at all
I shouldn't get too hung up on it. Every wall can look different in different light and different shades around the room.
@helenalovelock1030 The undertones on brilliant whites are taken from the type of Titanium Dioxide pigment is used in the manufacture. There are two main methods of manufacturing them. Some will have a yellow undertone and some a blue. Unfortunately I do not know which companies use which ones. You can also get undertones from the other ingredients used to make them.
@@MartinRichardson-qw8ndIsn't Rutile the best for its Refractive Index?
@@bitTorrenter You also have the methods of manufacture which is the chloride of sulphate method which gives the different undertones.
Used this on a hallway but had an issue with it,everyplace that i had caulked the previous day had the cracking affect to it,had to remove all caulk and use filler 😢
Upgrade your caulk... Crown ultimate or paint warrior
Thanks fir advice
reddevil caulk
@@doozeruk2000is crown good ?
@@helenalovelock1030Their 'ultimate' version is excellent
If you used your new quick shot you could of sprayed it lol
Jonnos this week released a new aqua guard gloss, primer/UC and matt. They all have a new scuff resistant matt emulsion. Would be nice if you can do a review of these products
It's not good in light yellows like Wimborne white.
Stick with F&B for that ;)
Don’t buy from brewers. Twice the price compared to online stores. Paintshed is value £££
Brewers will price match any company and they own the paint shed 👍🏻
£41 quid s as l in at brewers I. A colour
Did you type that in the rain?!
@@danielwoolcock7267if they own paintshed why do they charge so much more. And will that match a paintshed price with a discount coat ?
@@TheSmithytnow check paintshed
🎉
This product isn't as good as it used to be
I have recently used this on a job, hall stairs and landing over three floors.
I sold it to the clients as a really durable product.
After a few days of it being finished, there were hand marks on some of the walls.
I wiped over those areas with a clean damp microfiber cloth
Omg, the areas looked worse and after a few hours, stood out so bad, I had to repaint.
This to me is not a product that can be wiped let alone be scrubbed.
It used to be much better for this, but not now.
I agree it goes on beautifully and covers extremely well too but durability, I have to put a huge?!!!! To it.
I commented on this on your Facebook page and someone mentioned that the quality of this product isn't as good as it used to be as well
Paint a panel with a dark grey and when dry, scrub it with a damp cloth and see what happens
I have started using Johnstones smooth masonry in hallways now
You can scrub that without a problem
Interesting. Have you brought this up with the paint rep?
I wonder what it would have been like if it had had a couple of weeks to properly go off??? Was thinking of using this as last lot of Tiklurila I used was full of lumps......worst emulsion ever.....and I love Tikkurila!
@@daveh1081 I'm using less Optiva products now.... Give Isomat Premium Color a go as another alternative
Love the Helmi and anti reflex 2 etc but the emulsion.....deary me! I should've complained......I think they threw a bag of grit in when they mixed it for me! I'll see where my local Isomat supplier is. Gotta say, I also generally like Johno's but it's getting some mixed reviews here.
Thanks Phil@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
We have a matt paint in the bathroom, ruined by hand prints from kids with greasy hands from putting bike chains on etc, black oily grease and road grime isnt good for it....
If there is such a thing as kid & diy mechanic proof paint the company would be onto a winner
Oh yes there is.
Other than something like this durable Matt.
The H&G emulsion paint I tested a few videos back would suit... It has a slight sheen, as does Isomat Professional Color.
Isomat Premium Color is the Matt finish.
All would suit you
Isomat P
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator thanks for the recommendation it's overdue a revamp so I've made a note of that
I’m i interested in this paint I messaged you on Facebook asking you questions and you kindly answered my questions on the F&B lovers page. Thankyou
Should have just used teknos 02 end of.
I would on a ceiling... But I needed it for walls and ceilings..
Trouble is Teknos I can't get off the shelf. So no good when you need a paint quick
The other room I used Isomat premium color. Ordered that in ready via brewers at the same time as picking this Job is up.
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator just order it from top dec the day before or stock up on it. I don’t understand why it’s not law to use it on ceilings
I'm not a lover of this, I found opacity awful. In fact after 2 walls I switched out to Dulux Diamond matt and the difference was night and day for opacity! Recently did a job where owner supplied Valspar trade tough matt though. Hands down the best durable I've used and I've just about tried all of them...i know your a Valspar hater Phil but it's worth a try
What did you think to Isomat premium color?
Can they colour match F& B colours in the Dulux diamond matte ?
Used to use this but found macphersons to be far more superior
Which McPherson's?
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator durable acrylic matt let me know what you think
@@kevinohare7917 I think it'll be much the same?
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator I also think the johnstones durable matt is not kind to roller sleeves ,I call it the roller killer
Always tip paint from the front of the tin to not cover the instructions 🤣
Amateurs and DIYers and tiktoker lol
Got to admit Phil I was taught to pour from front of can at college in 1989.. So it's not new
Haha like the oil based vs water based debate! 🤣 I was always told to tip whichever side doesn't have the sticker on it lol
you're only as good as the person who taught you. lol
Agreed. The most important info is on the back! If the front of the tin is clean, that's a problem!
Tell Brian to stop sanding while your filming
He's not paid to stand around.
And I've edited it for background noise too lol 😂
Wow I couldn’t disagree more 😂 I find this too shiny and flashes horribly. And not durable at all…Colour matches are very good though.
Your alternative
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator didn’t mean to come across as a dick btw! Big fan of your RUclips stuff. And definitely not saying you’re wrong. Just that my experience has been so different. I’ve had too many customers say it’s not holding up, for me to have huge amount of faith in it. On the other hand I’ve had nothing but positive comments from jobs where I had used Optiva 3/5 or Isomat premium (which I what use most of the time now). Ceilings I’m on AR2 bandwagon or MacPhersons Eclipse if it’s off the shelf.
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator just saw your comment about purchase of Tikkurila by PPG - hadn’t considered this but maybe it’s improved since I used it last….
@@maulstar1 lol. I didn't read it like that, don't worry.
Eclipes is a cheap contract matt paint, false opacity , comes off on a damp sponge when wiped. AR2, Isomat Ceiling paint etc don't.
Why would you paint a ceiling with a durable paint…are you expecting many hand marks and knocks etc? 😂
Because you can just use the same paint on the ceiling as the walls. No cutting in as such from the ceiling to the wall as there's not even a different sheen
@@paulobryano but the walls on this particular Job are not white so it’s a pointless comparison,
You've not watched and listened to the video?
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator probably got bored 🥱