NEW Update from the Developer - What Manor Lords is Not
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- Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
- Today we got an update from Greg also known as Slavic Magic about what Manor Lords gameplay will entail. He explained what Manor Lords is, what it isn't, his plans for early access and whether we will get a roadmap in the coming months.
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:30 What Manor Lords is Not
03:46 This is still an Early Access game
08:00 Outro
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My suggestions:
Add volumetric clouds
Add volumetric fog and weather
Have an animal ai ecosystem like red dead redemption 2 where you can hunt off a species, bears, animals that attack npcs.
Add horse battles
Add lamp lights, streetlights for villages at end stage
Ability to get power in a future update
Castles
Lakes and rivers as well as aquatic life
Boats, horses able to cross waterways
Larger map sizes
More unique proc gen maps
Multiplayer
Add longer seasons
Fishing
Add water structures like docks and boat ramps
Swamps, marshland, desert
More npc variations
Better snow visuals
Npcs react to different weathers and environments
Add animals roaming in packs solo ect
World ambience
Realistic blood textures for battles
Damn bro that's a nice list thank you!
No one asked for a total war killer, that's a term created by youtubers alone. We, the historical total war players who have been moaning for years, just want a good historical strategy game with great real time battles. Looks like that's exactly what we're getting, couldn't be happier.
As a Total War player I want a game that will Rival the Total War titles and give them a wake up call that they need to change there shit.
@@Ghall2708 Great, but not from this game. Give the dude some space to create what HE wants, not what we moan about. As an oldschool total war player i couldn't give 2 sh|ts if C.A shuts down tomorrow. I just want for more devs to make more historical strategy games, not a just a tw ripoff.
@@Toshiro_Mifune This game has the ability to inspire future projects.
I'd like something along the lines of Total War: Banished, Viking Conquest, Kenshi, Manor Lords.
That focuses on early and mid game, as much as end game. For some real RP lvl stuff. And full mod support.
I can't wait to play this. Looks right up my street.
@@bowlock9901 I whole heartedly agree on the first part, i wouldn't like THAT much of a feature-salad for a game though. It's like multitools or multigadgets. when you try to make something that that has everything, then nothing works properly, i prefer to have more types of games instead of one game that does it all. Of course, exceptions occur.
I already arranged my easter vacation to start on release day tee-hee-hee.
How are you? I didn't vote for you to be my spokesman. 😊
Nice to see an honest developer who is telling potential customers what their product actually is or not, rather than hitting as many buzzwords as possible to hit search algorithms
fr
RUclipsrs call the game total war killer then release a video how its not a total war killer and how people are wrong 🤣
This is exactly what I've been saying on that Terminator video. No self reflection whatsoever. Delusional.
it's for clicks
@@kentaur2198 No kidding.
its not even in par with Thrones of Britania.
@@GameCritics it wasn't intended to be in the first place, anyway the game has a very solid start for an indie city-builder
Dont worry, modders will make it into a total war killer.
Honestly I believe jt
Does the dev say when will steam workshop available?
total war is already dead, and releases titles inferior to everything they have done before.
It is another era, another generation. CA had the most talented people back in the day, and even first total wars were far better than
those cosmetic, freaks, that they produce today.
@peemmyboi7524 I forget where but I saw that it's not gonna be for quite a while
hate ca all you want but this game ish't a total war killer not even close
It is in early access stuff will change, many people don’t get the “early access” thing. We even going to get Cavalry probably later on maybe even crossbows and sieges which the dev said is quite possible.
Yep for sure
that EA is frightening me the most, since i think with all those ideas pouring down by the community,
the game will stay in EA for a loooooong time.
Almost being like an experimental project-on-development....
That is not what gaming is all about
He even announced early firearms. And of course crossbows.
@@manolios Hard disagree.
Early access is just the steam store way of saying not "complete", there is no difference between a game getting updates in or out of early access besides how it is marketed. It shouldn't be concerning at all to have a game stay in early access whilst getting updates, it should be concerning if it's released from early access without being as feature complete as advertised, or if we go 6+ months without an update.
Besides that, updates to games are awesome, games should always be able to evolve over time to improve and innovate on the original idea, which is what gaming is about, otherwise things would be very boring getting 15 sequels with barely any content improvements.
Many of the best indie games grew from years in early access, including several years before steams early access was even a thing. Prison Architect, Rim World, Space Engineers, Kerbal Space Program, Dwarf Fortress, Factorio, Project Zomboid... All got tons of updates in "early access" and after their "1.0" release, many of which have had over 10 years of post "release" updates.
@@mykeh3155 Yeah, this is the idea behind the whole thing and i also love updates, but abandonware or never-completed is a thing in many EA games.
Actually the game is not getting updates in EA as it used today, the game is still developed, having gamers do the debugging, alternating features burning though content and hours of gaming, making many gamers losing momentum and steam about exploring the game.
Hence... this is why "Manor Lords" basically simulate being a "Baron" or "Baroness" Lowest Lords, however as you grow and take over the entire region on the map, this would be as powerful as what an Earl or Count would control. If it were a border region with another country then the title instead of Earl or Count would be that of Margrave, Landgraves, or Marquesses. A Duke or Dutchess would control a vast number of Regions. But this game simulates well what a Baron would control.
Yeah... Though he said it's not a grand strategy, I still hope that taking over the entire map will call for the necessity to expand the map, and as a result to upgrade the player's rank from baron to count, then duke, king etc. with that being connected to larger economical opportunities, cooler buildings and structures like stone castles and cities like Carcassonne etc. etc.
yep
The battles in manor lord already look better than totalwar battles.
The fact you can go backward while still facing the ennemy, use multiple stances that change unit behavior and dont have to wait for a 10s cooldown to launch another arrow is already an innovation...
i will dissagree with this. M2TW > Attila/RomeII, > Manor Lords.
Manor lords AI animations and formations are glitching.
Youi can't distringuish your troops to enemy troops. Lack of alliance coloring
0 spacing between each unit.
single animation spam between enemy and allied troops.
No Horse combat.
No Sieges
No simulated enemy AI but very basic scripted Simulation AI
Morale system is very basic, far from M2TW which is the industry top stanadard.
Manor lord has best graphic fidelity and its far better than TW Pharaoh.
@@GameCritics shogun2>m2tw
fr
I would love that in 3rd person, npcs could interact with you like saying "good morning" or something like "My lord..." or doing a reverence, or just asking you "how is your day?" IDK, something like that so feel the 3rd person caracter is actually there, would be great!
I was thinking the same. It shouldn't be a problem considering there is now a whole bunch of free chat bots (llms) and in the future there will be a lot of them you can istall and run locally. Dev should hire someone in the future that can help him integrate this in the game.
Someone has to mod in all the stronghold quotes
that would be awesome
Ohhh, I hear the pausing and Ums on this video. I haven't heard narrations of info as of yet as you have, I've watched a ton of stuff but haven't heard the letter or paragraph. Good to hear. I've just watched your info vids so far, haven't been able to watch your play a longs yet. Cheers to your success and endeavors man.
One guy making a game and doing it extremely well cause he got frustrated playing failing total war, now thats epic.
And this is just the beginning, imagine the updates and perhaps future dlcs.
ye fr lol
Appreciate you doing this over view of the update! Looking forward to getting Manor Lords when the early access comes out.
Thank you!
I'm very excited for this game and I usually don't play video games. I love the smaller, slower scale as building a realistic medieval village has always been a dream of mine and I like how the battles are only a few hundred soldiers at best, it shows how even a few hundred people are unwieldy and we're not getting lost in armies of hundreds of thousands and sweeping across continents with ease.
i used to play stronghold freebuild until the counselor was literally advising me to get some rest.
damn man that's awesome
I personally support youtubers getting access to games before the rest of us. I feel like it gives me time to see gameplay before I decide whether to buy it or not. Not sure why anyone would be against this.
fair yeah ive heard it back and forth
Been watching a lot of reviews on Manor Lords as the trepidation is right up there.
Someone posted a video on a really concerning bug though, his region got overrun and destroyed.
He could no longer build there or use the army that was remaining.
Hopefully, this will have been passed along to Slavic if it is widespread so it can
be fixed prior to release.
My son is 12 and a longtime Minecraft creative mode builder. He had gotten to the point of building whole cities with all of the functioning parts, such as stores, factories that made things for stores, food production etc but he had to role play the actual functioning of the city.
So yes, this will be his replacement game. He watches tons of videos and has no interest in combat. He wants to build and learn economy and chains of function within a middle ages society. So yes, I agree with the Slavic Magic, this is a city builder at its core and my son demonstrates this.
Nahhh Minecraft can never be replaced. But he will sure love this.
Fr man this game is awesome
I love this game from what I see, I’m waiting to see what the roadmap looks like. If castle building is included 100% guaranteed , and if additional maps are included with their regions I’m all in. Micro city building with macro kingdom or faction management against AI would be insanely attractive.
Yeah fr
Tell the dev to have a night setup where you have to assign town folks as sentries in order to catch bandits at night ir to fight off wolves or even find thieves stealing stuff if your population is low or even as a fire watch.
that would be cool
He will need to hire more devs, with 2 mil wish lists on the game, being early access, and with an open discourse on said game it’ll be in EA for 2-3 more years
Just look at valheim
yeah i don't disagree
I totally understand them keeping the scope relatively small in it's first release as the Dev stated, but I think they'd be missing a HUGE opportunity if they didn't expand on that in the future. If not with official releases, then with mods. This style of hybrid game (Between City Builder and Total War vibe of battlefield management) is what I've been waiting for for years. I just hope it reaches it's full potential in the future. Fingers crossed.
Agreed mods will definitely be amazing for this game and they should expand the team if possible
Sounds amazing, exactly what people want. Dont need another empire builder or rts or competitive stuff
ye
Doesnt matter if its total war killer or not. What's important is we will play this game more than total war.
lmao facts
Didn't know you could go avatar mode during the battles as well lol
Just the idea of the lord casually walking through and noone's allowed to hit him
ye lol
Great video! So looking forward to playing this! I totally get that content creators get early copies, they can show us the game and stop companies from ripping us off. You dont want spoilers? You dont want to see too mucb of the game before is out? Easy, dont watch any videos! Im somewhere in the middle, I watch some reviews from different people but I try not to watch too many and I will stop watching any during the last week. What a game! Trully excited for this.
Thank you man I appreciate it, it's a ton of fun.
This should show to TotalWar how many people are craving for a proper TotalWar style game. Also, this can be a huge opportunity for Slavic Magic or HoodedHorse to start a healthy competition. 🤔
yeah it really could
We need fortifications, castle walls, gatehouses, towers, the whole shebang.
they have some of those already
Those only make sense if they can be used by defenders and actually attacked by attackers. Which means that defenders need to gain the ability to climb the walls and defend from the battlements, and attackers need siege equipment to use against fortifications - which means at least the need of another building to manufacture the siege equipment, as well as several new models of siege engines, which need to be animated. And also need attack and damage values. Which needs balancing.
In short: This opens a whole new can of worms.
You could just as well demand that cavalry makes it into the game.
It might not be a total war killer, but it easily could be. Anyways, I'd like to see this same style, but with the iron age.
ye
Manor lords dev: this game is not a total war killer
Disappointed TW fans: you dont call the shots here!
lmao
Super excited about the game and what it tries to be. However, it would be fun to have a mode something akin to age of empires, focused a bit more on battles and conquest. Not any time soon! But lets say, the game is finished to the point he (and maybe a future team) envisioned and feels deep and varied enough to have a lot of replayability on its own. But more modes like that would honestly turn the game from amazing to timeless.
I totally agree
its part of the realism, big battle were rare, skirmishes were most of the fighting.war is expensive and if you lose big pitch battle. Who is gonna work the fields?
what realistic doesnt mean is fun to play.
@@GameCritics If people want big battles. They can play total war or something else..
FAAACK THAT TOTAL WAR ALL THE WAY
@@GameCritics last great total war game was shogun now it's all shitty
@@HistoryLover911 nailed it
Hey, hope you're doing great :)
Little question, if you don't mind: will be there possibility to paint warriors' shields/surcoat to banner colors? In close range skirmish it's really hard to understand who is who, and colors were invented exactly for such purpose. Thanks for awesome game :)
This is already in to the game. If you follow Manor Lords content you can find all the info you need.
@@serafima2 Hm, looks like I did miss that. Great then, thanks :)
thank you! Yeah you can change the colors and banners etc.
But all this news just makes it more interesting.
ye
Having played Farthest Frontier, I want to play this game so baaad.
Also a big fan of AoE and TW, should be awesome. I've really wanted a sorta new RTS city builder type game. Been following this development for quite a while too, the people overhyping it are very infuriating.
I haven't played Farthest Frontier is it worth the play
"A lot of people complain about content creators getting it early, I used to be one off those people till I became one" lol wow xD
It's very lame to have 2 weeks early for people the hype will drop by next week. 2 or 3 days early would've been smarter
I mean its the truth
I actually agree
Whats the max number of units you can field? The size is fine because the map is small to begin with. Total war games on the otherhand is an empire builder so smallish armies are kinda turn off.
so far i've seen people gather up to 1000 peasants. the great thing is that you control the unit sizes and of course they draw from your peasant pool. Every peasant being on the battlefield means there's one less peasant on the farming field, every soldier you lose WILL hurt your economy and you will have to regrow your population. Smaller battles make sense in this case, you don't need 120 men with bows, 20 well placed men can do more damage while a heavy battle line takes the charge ect. after 24 years of the tw formula, i find this refreshing the least.
1000
🤔 so its seem dev (he) already started making Manor lord 2. Nice 👏🏻
what
Will it have multiplayer ? I would love to play it with one friend together to compete about the map 😁
that's a MAYBE/WILL TRY from the dev, and after 1.0.
not on early access launch but maybe eventually
People need to temper expectations. This isnt full release. Its a very small team. I think many people will enjoy the game but not the wait between fixes, content etc. Who knows hopefully they may be able to bring some people on board to help Greg roll things out a little quicker. Personally I'd rather wait and have stable experience than rush and it become a cluster (ryhmes with truck)
this is facts
Will the game have mod support, because I am going to wager that if it does it's going to blow up and in a few years it'll be crazy what people come up with.
yeah it will
I think it is a Total War competitor , problem is Tatal War lacks the city building aspects of total war.
It depends on whether people like the city building aspect of things, if you want hundreds of battles and magic then nothing will compete with TW: Warhammer which is by far the most popular. They do overlap in certain aspects but for my needs I actually consider Bannerlord 2 to be closer to TW: Warhammer than Manor Lords will ever be due to quick battles and strategy, it´s all in the eyes of the individual and how they approach a game.
I am not much into the city building aspect of things except for City Skylines mainly due to the complex road building and traffic logistics, might give this a shot though.
@@AurioDK I loved TW series in the past but they turned an almost perfect battle simulation potential into fast paced, APM centered, UI litered mass. I like magic in warhammer and even it could be a realistic thing in the universe but instead they choosed self erecting towers and domination battles. Those thing even contradict with fantasy lore. I think future TW games will need more city building elements as the game started repeating itself over and over.
@@Arhatu That´s due to Total War: Warhammer being everything in one, if you want a less magical influenced TW: WH then there are mods that do just that.
So, for the sake of TW, yes, you are right. They will need to implement new mechanics, preferably some major ones. City building is just so time consuming that it would take away from the eternal battles which I love, light city building maybe. There are various paths they can take, however Creative Assembly hasn´t been that creative "lately".
Creative assembly could do a combo of Age of Empires/Total War f.ex. with village building, just one example.
It's literally not though. This is a city-builder with battles. That's like saying Farthest Frontier is a competitor to Stellaris.
@@mdc3227 Both of them will evolve into same thing. Manor lords leads the direction.
Can't wait to mod beyond his wishes. Sorry, developer, but your wishes are noted, and denied. Larger maps, more retinues, more battles, I forsee it like 2 weeks in
If you want your unsupported mods to be broken with each and every subsequent Early Acces Update, then go ahead and have fun!
ye modding will be insane
has the dev addressed moding potential ? or potential for MP modes? ps. personally? bad feedback is just as valuable, but you gotta identify it, then take it as face value.
there will be modding after 1.0
WE will decide if its a Total War Killer, not him!
fair
Will this game be compatible with modding, because I have a feeling the modders will go crazy with this game
Yeah they said modding will come i think after 1.0
How much will it cost?
I'd assume around 30-40 USD
Manor lords will never be about managing an empire, but a plot of land. Sure you have battles, and it's great that they feel better than TW ones, but the scope will always be different. "Total War killer" is a product of the hype train term.
Having said that, it doesn't mean that some modder somehow makes a higher abstraction of the game and makes it feel closer to a grand scale game. But that is wishful thinking. What we have now is the Banished of the 2020s, and I'm here to enjoy all the revolutionary perks it brings.
yeah
try Songs of Syx it's an underrated gem
definitely this
Why dont they add a custom battles mode where you j7st fight that would be great
because it is a city builder game
they might in the future
Yep. when it comes to actual skirmishes and wars, I prefer Kenshi. Even though that game's graphics are crap. Gonna play manor lords as a city builder first then defenses second.
why no blood in battle..GG
there is?
console release next year? hoping Microsoft backing gives more developers so we don't got wait to long
with the amount of strategy games i've seen popping out on the ps store, i wouldn't be surprised, but we'll see.
fr hope so i think it should run on the steam deck
So all the fun and interesting things this game is not and wont be :))...
Just one interesting thing it is + some copl battles.
No offense but all youtubers just folliw a pattern.. hardly any are original.. i appreciate the outlook and keep up the good work! When you see titles like OMG Insane HuGEWAR MASSIVE CAMPAIGNS in all caps.. look at raptor 😂 my man swears by every new game every day
none taken yeah that's what youtubers do
We need Ww2 add on to ml
bruh what
we do not need a total war killer...... Total war is dead anyways
We just need your game , as your idea, vision and originality.
The thing is i'm afraid that the Early Access period, will take longer than expected....(i fear more than six months),
and those things never end well when the community keeps asking, becomes toxic, countless hours are spent on tests and path changes, everyone is losing momentum and steam,
and the game finally gets released at "Mixed" reviews . Not to mention the monstrosity of a PC that would require and be optimized for a game to run smoothly on today's PCs
Gave ya the thumbs up. Just wanna say since this is a single guy working on it we should all know from the onset, this will be a long process
@@thehaberdash i understand that he is solo, and has a dream, but i really hope does not fall victim to EA hells of many games of the kind. Also the game advertises 2 million wishlists or something, soooo an increase in personnel and developers is required.
I have seen stuff over my ages of gaming , and rarely those EA conclude in a success. I can count in my palm the best of them, while my wishlist has almost 350!!!!
The ultimate Total War killer was the update on Shogun 2. I can't play the game anymore. I have tried everything. All mods deinstalled, game deinstalled and downloaded again. It does not work anymore. And in the comments of the update, I've read hundreds of comments with the same problem. All that because they could not monitore the chat. Total war is dead for me. I won't buy anything of it ever again.
Battle Brothers were also in early access for a long time, and they have very positive reviews. lets hope for best
@@jarlnils435 of course total war is dead.
This game is more Stronghold Crusaders than Total War. Anyone who calls it a Total War killer is a grifter and should be added to the list of "Do not recommend channel".
agreed
Hope the developer is not too narrow minded and changes his mind on some of these aspects. I would like to participate in the battles like in Bannerlord as example. It already includes combat, let me swing my sword around a bit.
ye
just hope that naive people wont review bomb this game unjustly ...
they might
Total war Warhammer already killed historical Total War games. So this is a non-issue
lmao
It’s not a total war killer, it’s a total war atomizer.
I think we all just want TW to go away at this point so someone else can make Historical Grand Strategy. All they care about is Games Workshop now anyways, which has gone woke sadly.
ye
I HATE City Builders games More Than i Hate Baseball and Tennis Games 😂😂😂😂😂😂
why
I actually think it is kind of total war is niche asff this is far more playable instead of being the most unintuitive and hard to understand game you've ever played I could not look at any text and figure this game out it's called accessibility and low bar of entry instead of needing manuals to play guarantee half or more than half of total war games are never finished or reach any resoloution
ye
Is there cavalry?
soon TM
@@NovaGamingFPS I want my retinue to be KNIGHTS on horseback hehe!
What's the price?
30-40 probs
Mods will make this game truly shine Imo.
agreed
Can't wait!
I'm surprised people would be upset that creators get pre-release versions of the game. It's nice to see how the game looks before playing it. I'm someone who enjoys playing games, I just don't have the time to play as much as creators who make it their job to play the games and make videos. I would definitely have pre-purchased the game because it looked so good for so long but evidently the developer did not need an infusion of cash to get the game where it is. I'm just excited April 26 is getting closer and closer!
Man I wish everyone had as bases a take as you did
What are your computer specs?
4070 ti and 13700k i9 i think
i7