So, you want an electric motorcycle? 2024 LiveWire S2 Delmar
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- Опубликовано: 4 янв 2025
- Lets take a look at this Harley Davidson LiveWire S2 Del Mar. Would you buy this bike for $15,500 USD?
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sorry to burst your bubble but Harley-Davidson does not make this motorcycle
@@Isayahcox I appreciate your confidence but, besides Harley owning Livewire the bike SAYS Harley-Davidson Motor Company
I bought a Del Mar and love it. I use it to ride to my farm and back every day. My commute is 24 miles round trip, and this bike turns a boring daily commute into a blast. Range is not a problem - I can take the long way home and still have charge leftover. I plug it in to charge in my garage, and it’s ready to go the next day. Dig it.
That 0-60 is impressive! It's better than all of the zero's at the same or a cheaper price point. Really considering getting one.
I've been lucky to test ride a Livewire and a Zero- electric bikes like these are amazing and I can't wait to get one.
What's better in your opinion? What did u purchase?
@HumeidAlHabsi I haven't gotten an electric bike yet, and honestly I don't know which one I would get, between Livewire and Zero. It might just depend on price and the deal itself.
I paid 30k for mine but I don’t regret it and since then I have broken ride records. It brings a new feeling to a loud bike
Which bike did you buy? The original Livewire?
@@emadreviews or course. There alll great(3 models of livewires) bikes. Listen im on my secong tesla. What im saying just like the tesla people are so clueless of how many chargers there are. I can travel very easily. Actually on the livewire app it also finds ALL the chargers near you. Very simple PEOPLE wake up and smell the electric.The ride is ELECTRIFYING PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I have had the whole harley lineup over the years, choppers , dyans , fat boys mostly all cvos.TRY ONE!!
@@emadreviews yes II acquired HD LiveWire first strike 007//500
Thats such a nice looking motorcycle. Wow!
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I wish someone would put a range extender charger on these bikes. It would not be difficult to do especially from the factory. Could even be offered as an option.
There’s enough motor torque there to spin one up and hardly know it’s there.
What I’m talking here basically is a mounting bracket, generator type motor that is spun off the back tire, and a connecting harness to the battery. It would be charging as it’s ridden which could extend the range of a full charge cycle.
All I have is the idea, someone else will have to do the details but it can’t be that difficult.
Excluding acceleration, is big and heavy the main attraction?
I rented a LiveWire One while my Stage IV 131 Stree Bob Harley was being built. I wanted to hate on this bike, but wanted to try it. That thing was quite impressive.... instant torque, unbelievable regenerative braking, quite fast, excellent traffic commuter bike and rode like a mid upright sport bike (to a degree). My bash on these bikes is the range. You can tank up very quickly my 131, not these bikes. One thing too is you get very non linear range when you bring the highway into the mix and god help you if you like to go fast. These bikes will go fast, but you will pay dearly on range. The Livewire One I had probably lost 30 percent of its range fast on the highway. It quit after 65 miles and limped another mile and died in my driveway (that's the closest I've come to running out of gas (albeit figuratively) on a bike in a long time). As cool as these bikes are too ride, you lose all that V-Twin feel / character. It alsmost seems like a kids toy, although I will admit.... it's awesome in traffic (especially when it's hot). This would be a number 2 bike for me and as a commuter.
Yeah the biggest issue for me is what you mentioned, the non-linearity. You can never predict if you are gonna make it back home just because of the road slopes and how you ride that day.
"I've come to running out of gas"
I make electric bikes (bicycles) for my own use. I've run out of gas LONG before reaching my driveway simply because I didn't take a spare battery... lol. but of course a real bike would be a lot more difficult to push
I work locally, and getting electric seems nice, but 15k is way out my price range. Hoping one day the price for any bike goes 5k-8k seems reasonable
There's already a few owners selling theirs, very low mileage. While not the $5-8k range you're looking for, they are close to 11k
Biggest challenge for me.... working level 3 charging stations if you are out touring a bit. HUGE bummer.
Please explain. I ride cross country and am unaware of electric bike charging concerns. Im curious what you mean.
It looks kinda sexy in the night fall blue.
I'd be very happy with any Livewire because even though they realistically can only travel 65 to 75 miles on a charge in the real world, I don't need to go over 60 miles on an outing. I'm more concerned with acceleration and the Del Mar has that in truck loads.
I have the livewire one i love it. My wife has the del mar and loves it. We have had ALL the harley lineups over the years. GET ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ride safe!
@@emadreviews My LiveWire One puts a smile on my face on the daily.
@@twocupstwodrams7535 agreed
It's a nice lookin' bike for sure!
Better than the ugly original LW.
Definitely needs a further range per charge!! It feels like a bike for just around the rown.
I owned a zero ds and I LOVEED it saddest day when I had to sell it this bike seems to be about the same. When I can by another one I'll check it out. BUT I LOVEED the zero just not the name.
Why did you have to sell it
Don't press the 16:34 eject button, whatever you do, unless you're ready for it.
its longer than a sec.. its based on rpm if you stay at a certain rpm thats your torque
When they get the range for the battery up to about 500 miles then I’ll think about buying an electric motorcycle. Basically, they have made a bike that is only good for doing very short little trips in town. This is certainly not a bike you could take on the road to actually go anyplace.
the "torque comes down and averages out" very quickly...
Looks Great, range is Perfect.
Pretty good up till the 5 minute mark. Level 1 just means a basic US wall outlet, 120-140 volts at 12-15 amps. You'll recharge those 10kWh overnight easily. Level 2 is a 240v outlet, or cheap (often free) public charging. For level 3 (DC Fast Charging, DCFC) you need dedicated wires. The first two are AC and the motorcycle's onboard inverter converts the AC coming from the outlet to the DC that the battery stores.
Why can we get 10kWh on a brand new motorcycle for 15 grand, but it's more than 15 grand for 10kWh of home battery storage? Oh, right, corporate greed.
10kWh to go 100 miles would be 10 miles per kWh, that'd be really good. 3-4 times better mileage than a Tesla. Do gas bikes get 4x the mileage of gas cars?
Maybe you could get that puttering around a city at 40mph, but you're not getting that on a highway, or driving like a maniac at every stoplight.
The semi-solar powered semi-motorcycle called Aptera is bragging about 10mi/kWh, but it's super aerodynamic and light. Not standard motorcycle/car shaped.
The EV6 is supposed to be super efficient too, 6 miles per kWh average. For comparison that's about 190 miles per gallon. 33mpge ~= 1mi/kWh.
Its interesting from a technical perspective.
If it had fast charging or wireless grid charging (charging while operating on a wireless grid charging equiped roadway) then id buy one
where exactly are these wireless grid roads? I would love to check them out.
@@brickrhymes984 Some manufacturers are refusing to incorporate this new technology due to the current infrastructure and the modification needed. The technology for wireless charging parking lots and roadways has been developed and working prototypes have been produced. It's up to manufacturers and developers to start incorporating this new technology.
The company producing this technology is private, located in Irvine CA. I'm not an employee or anything, I just chat with a lot of people and gather information.
I'm sure you can find some publicly released information based on what I've mentioned 😀.
I think the only vehicles reliably doing wireless charging are trains lol
I'd buy it... for 1,500
Not 15,000
Unless the salesman can explain to me, how that one little motorcycle is worth more than my entire house trailer I use every... single... day.
If he can do that and convince me, I'll buy it. Good luck!
2.5 hours!? Website says 1.5 hours 0 to 100% using level 2 charging
0-100% 148 minutes. 20-80% 78 minutes all for level 2 charging. For level one, 0-100% 8.4 hours, and 20-80% 6 hours.
Nice bike
oh god, stop with this "not Harley" crap! you sound like you're mocking it
No thanks.
I have enough trouble keeping four-wheelers off me with loud pipes on my FLHX and XL, I sure as hell don't want a quiet bike.
During the ride portion I got cut off by people a few times:(
Turn up the radio.
always carry a propane tank and a warning light
make it their problem 👍
@@mo-s- 🤣
Range needs to be closer to 300 before I would consider dealing with the aggravation of recharging. 100 just is not enough range.
Not my experience and not most folks.
Range should be at least 500 miles since we love to ride long distances
I get the range is bad on this electric bike but I haven’t even seen a 500 mile range on an internal combustion motorcycle.
15k to ride for an hour and a half, then have to charge it for 8hours. It’s a huge toy
Doesn't take 8 hrs. To charge at level 2 to 80% it takes 1 hr 18 minutes
The range is what kills this bike
the mileage is ridiculous! 70 miles\118 km on hiway? that's not even enough for to get to the first beer stop when we're riding. my usual sunday ride would go from 5 hours to 13 hours if there were charging stations.
Well tbh that is like crapping on a Cessna for being a terrible airplane to take on a Dubai to Washington DC trip. This bike I believe does fit a particular market but definitely not for someone who goes on a 5-12 hour ride.
@@emadreviewsThat’s ridiculous. It’s 70 miles. Harley is dogshit.
It's not sa cruiser for a long trips it's a city runner.
At 60 miles range per 8 hrs of charging time, that works out to 7.5 miles per hour. I can walk half that fast. The recycled materials marketing wank is the icing on the cake.
Lol "only" 15k... if people want us to drop fossil fuel they need to make it affordable. Like 5k.
You can buy electrical bicycles for $5K, not motorcycles
@johnpaulgarzaniti5065 exactly my point, but I can buy a slightly used GCE bike for 5k anytime and if I run out of fuel I don't have to push the bike to a charging station or wait a few hours to charge it.
Bro is tripping. Harleys have never been high quality. Plastic wire insulation, poor fit and finish, brittle fairings. Harley sux
brittle fairings?🙂
100 miles! I do 200-300 every weekend on my gas powered Harley. You might be able to commute to work on this bike, but that is it.
Cool, I did 750 miles on a weekend on my LiveWire One. What was your point?
@@Drstrapps congratulations. 🎉 Are you looking for kudos. 😂
@@ExploringLifeWithChris So did you have a point? Seemed like you were saying that you couldn't do even 200-300 miles in a weekend on a EV motorcycle, but can't accept that you're wrong?
@@Drstrapps you seem to lack common sense. 🧠 of course you can do 200-300 miles on an electric bike, but you have to charge it multiple times and each charge takes a really long time. You may enjoy sitting around waiting but I enjoy riding. I realize your feelings are hurt by these facts but I can’t help it if you are triggered so easily. Enjoy your electric bike. ⚡️
@@ExploringLifeWithChris "A really long time"? LOL, okay, tell me you've never ridden a LIveWire.
15k, limited range, time to recharge, & weight make this a waste of money. It looks cool, not My style, though. Resembles a fat tire beach cruiser.
Salute
Edit: For 15k, one can get a barely used VMAX 1700, which is more valuable and will hold it's value better than, that expensive toy.
I fill like you try to be Doug DeMuro of bikes
your gas after taco bell will make more motorcycle noises than this motorcycle ... this is riding for girl scouts
Not very manly, no noise. Its bad enough car drivers not seeing you, but not hearing you either, spells death!
> not very manly
bikes are "she", is he stupid
No one and I mean NO ONE wants a Delmar…
sorry to burst your bubble but Harley-Davidson does not make this motorcycle
Electric bikes in the U.S. are pointless. We like to take our bikes on long rides - even sport bike riders would quickly outrun the available charge in short order.
Well, I thought about it. Ride it to work, plug it in… ride it home. Repeat… never have to pay for fuel again. Work is 12.5 miles from home, so 25 miles a day.
Keep my V-Twin for long rides, and the E-bike for commuting. Upkeep on an electric bike probably isn’t much. Doesn’t sound like a bad deal.
Thoughts?
@@bigf1502 ya maybe, it’s a lot of money though?
It's not a cruiser for long trips it's a city runner.
@@Voltomess that is priced at insane levels. You could buy two nice bikes for that price.
@@JA-zh5xi it's HD crap what did you expect $7.999?? I would rather get street triple RS for less than anything from HD. I just came here to see this out of curiosity nothing else.
Enough with the 'Not'🤦 HAHA
Great Bike Tho!
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go woke go broke.... have a nice bbq within 100 miles....