I laughed the second you put up the "Great Midwest Athletic Conference" logo...that good sir is a D2 conference, I know I played in it. So I enjoyed the indirect shout out 🤣🏈
Fun fact: Colorado has played Utah a total of 70 times in their history, more than all of the Plains Conference foes other than Nebraska and Missouri and tied with Kansas. That was not the PAC-12 forcing a rivalry as much as trying to rekindle it.
I've spoken to a bunch of Utah and Colorado fans about the game when they joined the conference, and only one of them told me they cared about the game. I knew they played a lot in the RMAC... I just assumed that constant play does not a rivalry make. Is Alabama more of a rival with LSU than Auburn?
@@lukeontheplainsI think the lsu-bama-auburn comparison makes a lot of sense but also helps prove the opposite point. Yeah, there will always be eyes on the iron bowl whenever it rolls around (colorado-nebraska) but I think most bama fans and cfb fans in general have more investment in any bama-lsu (colorado-utah) game as lsu is simply gonna be the more competitive game in any given year. Nebraska’s been good this year and did crush colorado but the modern cfb landscape probably favors utah over nebraska in terms of competitiveness. All I’m tryna say is, while colorado fans might not “care” about the utah matchup, it’s typically gonna have much bigger implications on the season than the nebraska game
LSU vs Texas A&M was definitely a historic rivalry that only was dormant when they were in the Big 12. Just know that you can't keep everyone in the SEC together just because everyone for some reason seems to have a rivalry with Alabama. Even old Georgia Tech had arguably the strongest out of state rivalry with them up until they left the SEC
Lsu isn't even A&M's biggest rivalry what are you on lmao you guys sing about how much you hate Texas every game in the War Hymn. How is lsu a bigger rival than texas like make it make sense lol
Personally, Lucas, I think you did an excellent job with the conference realignment in this video. And I especially love those conference logos! 👍⭐️ Keep up the great work, as always.
U should simulate a season with these conferences either make up what happens or use an online simulator or something. Would be interested to see what happens with the cfp and nit tournaments
Yeah no keep tradition in CFB that’s what ruining it today plus a conference with OSU Michigan and ND would make the other conferences greedy in realignment and we will have what we have today
Great video, I love seeing what people want conferences to look like compared to what they are today. The only changes I would make is swap Memphis for Tulane so LSU has a buddy, switch FSU and South Carolina back, and drop UConn, they struggle in football and no conf should be at 11 when every other one is at 10.
No no, your Big East Conference is perfect. We'll(WVU) gladly take back Pitt, VT, SU, and UL as in conference rivals again and welcome Maryland as a new in conference rival.
@@M_11_m41n "Maryland is always an ACC school" Don't think so anymore. Most seem to view UMD as a BIGEAST type now. It's now a plug school for this type of exercise.
This is an exercise I do whenever I have insomnia, which is a lot. As the Iron-Fisted Commissioner in this imaginary scenario I force Notre Dame to choose between being a power conference member or a "Group of" independent; they join the Great Lakes Conference with nine of the original Big Ten members (all but Iowa, which doesn't border a Great Lake). Iowa is part of the Great Plains Conference (your Heartland), replacing the Oklahoma schools along with Arkansas. OU and OSU join with the seven Texas schools and LSU to revive the Southwest Conference. My SEC and ACC are almost identical to yours, except USC and FSU stay where they are. And my Mid-Atlantic and Pacific Coast Conferences are the same as your Big East and Pac-10. But your alignment works for me, and if ND had chosen to remain independent I would have moved Arkansas and Memphis into the SWC, the Okies would be in the Great Plains and Iowa would be back with their Big 10 brothers.
Would be an awkward reunion of the Pac 10 but it wouldn't be the first time. When the Pacific Coast Conference collapse with most of the same schools they did reconcile their relationship.
Always like these videos and your constant iterations of a true northeast conference it makes my soul happy. Can you make a conference realignment that fits the limitations of college football 25? I don’t want to limit you to 12 and 14 team conferences etc if you decide to do it.
Nice pair of videos. Pretty solid scheme, overall. Inspired by your example, I came up with a model with 12 paired conferences with promotion & relegation. Six upper level conferences have 12 teams each, and the six lower vary between 10 and 11. In my mind it seems elegant. 😂
~06:06 ACC - UCF doesn't fit brand and no reason to include a recently elevated G5. Replace with VATECH or switch for GEORGIA (LSU was moved out of the SEC in your plan).
@@M_11_m41n I assumed that VATECH would prefer the better academic and overall sports conference but will defer to fans. Still need to replace UCF, so either MARYLAND, GEORGIA or FSU.
@@M_11_m41n So for this exercise and taking VATECH's preferences in consideration per your comment, my 10-member feasible ACC: UVA UNC NCSTATE DUKE WAKE CLEMSON GATECH FSU MIAMI MARYLAND or USCAR
This is the exact alignment I've been running with in CFB25 (and NCAA 14). I just flip Memphis for Tulane and Boston College for Notre Dame (and drop UConn)
I always felt like Florida alone would be able to make up a conference. Miami 🙌 FSU Gators All top brands UCF USF More good brands and rivalries FIU FAU Then bringing up Bethune Cookman to help spread across the entire state. Would be a fun conference to watch. Texas and Cali might be better just because of how big their states are. But still.... Outside of those two.... We could make a conference out of in state teams alone and still be pretty darn good.
to me i think 12 or 14 team conferences help a lot more than doing 10 or 11 teams, yes it adds in a conference championship game but it also kinda eases and flexes schedules for most(if not all) of the teams doing so, like personally i'd add in both of the Nevada schools into the Pac and it'd make 100% sense and you could do an almost perfect north/south split with it and just protect the UNLV/UNR rivalry as a mandated game every year
In the past, I think I also prefer 12 member Tier 1 conferences for this exercise; nevertheless, I recall issues with creating a new BIG12 and new BIGEAST due to a lack of quality once the PAC, B1G, ACC and SEC are more easily set. Nevertheless, your comment illustrates the problems with finding a 12th PAC member after UTAH (11th). I maintain that geo and culture should be respected, and BYU doesn't fit that culture even though Tier 1 qualified and the geo works.
@@tarheel7406 New Mexico is just under Oregon St in Endowment. Would slot in fine as 12th member. Nevada is a lil lower but may slot in better geographically. Both still R1 research schools. Maybe under an goal of increasing endowment closer to OSU.
@@Greggyou812 Per the source I reference, NM is a rough academic peer of WVU and BAMA. I'm less familiar with the schools out west, but I assume there are reasons why NM has lingered outside of the major conferences.
I have a number of thoughts after watching this video: 1. LSU vs. Texas A&M is actually a very important game this year, as both teams are competing to stay at the top of the SEC, and great timing on the video as that game is one day from now. Perhaps there is still hope for this rivalry yet. 2. It doesn't make sense to me why Iowa leaned instead of the Big 8, it just seems like a better fit, if nothing else because Iowa and Iowa State would have been an in-conference matchup. But, as it is, you now need to leave Iowa with the rest of the Big 10 teams because that's where the history is. 3. Florida State is already awful in the ACC this year- they would be even worse if Georgia, Alabama, Texas, etc. were beating up on them every week- but it is a nice geographical fit, so I like it. 4. I like UConn in the Big East, and if you put UConn in the Big East you can put Virginia Tech back in the ACC. 5. I like the NIT idea for your more prominent non-New Year's Six Bowls, while the remaining bowls can be for the teams that barely made it to bowl eligibility.
I had similar except: Iowa -> Heartland Oklahoma -> SoCon Notre Dame -> Big Ten Memphis -> G7 FSU and SC flip I like an 8 team playoff with the G5. I think a 12 team playoff would work best with 7 conf champs.
Hear me out, what about a Mountain West Conference with BYU, Utah, Boise state, Colorado, Colorado State, Utah State, Air Force, Wyoming, Montana, and Montana State. That would be a really fun conference. Probably wouldn’t be “power standard” though, but I believe a conference like that has some serious potential because of how fun it would be having every Colorado and Utah school plus Boise and Wyoming, there’d be multiple rivalry games every week
The Dakota schools I wouldn't add because they don't have the money to move up to the FBS level. As for Tulsa, I would have them go to the Southwest Conference because they have rivalries with Houston and Rice.
Lets say you put Arkansas and Texas Tech in the Heartland, then you move Ole Miss and Mississippi State to the SOCON, who would replace them in the SEC? Or Tulane in the SOCON? Thoughts?
I prefer 8 conferences of 10 teams. It's so easy to have round-robin scheduling, hence no conference championships, and the 8 conference champions can then be the 8 playoff teams. This is my lineup: Big East: Boston College, Syracuse, Rutgers, Penn State, Pitt, West Virginia, Louisville, Cincinnati, Virginia Tech, Miami (FL) ACC: Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, Duke, NC State, Wake Forest, Clemson, South Carolina, Georgia Tech, Florida State SEC: Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, LSU, Tennessee, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Georgia, Florida SWC: Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU, SMU, Houston, Rice, Arkansas, Memphis B1G: Minnesota, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, Notre Dame, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State BIG XII: Iowa, Iowa State, Nebraska, Missouri, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Colorado, Colorado State MWC: Utah, Utah State, BYU, Arizona, Arizona State, Nevada, UNLV, Boise State, Wyoming, New Mexico PAC-10: Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Cal, Stanford, USC, UCLA, Fresno State, San Diego State Big East/ACC play in Peach Bowl, SEC/SWC in the Cotton Bowl, B1G/BIG XII in the Orange Bowl and MWC/PAC-10 in the Fiesta Bowl, with the Peach/Cotton Bowl winners playing in the Sugar Bowl semifinal and the Orange/Fiesta Bowl winners playing in the Rose Bowl semifinal before the CFP Championship. Similar to yours, I had to make a couple sacrifices - Iowa is left out of the B1G in favor of Notre Dame since my system has no independents, and UCF just missed the cut on school endowment size and not really fitting the Big East, ACC, or SEC without messing up rivalries.
I like it but I think it would it make more sense to switch Miami (FL) and Maryland? I know Maryland has a historical link to the ACC and the U was once in the Big East but geographically speaking it doesn't really make sense.
Louisville, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, and West Virginia are together so I’m beyond happy. Also Virginia tech because they’re the nicest fan base to me here online
Mine goes like this: PAC 10 UA Az St USC UCLA CAL Stanford UO Oregon St UW Washington St Big 10 Iowa Minnesota Wisconsin Illinois NW Purdue Indiana Michigan Michigan St Ohio St SEC Florida Georgia Tennessee Vanderbilt Kentucky Alabama Auburn Ole Miss Miss St LSU Big 8 (Heartland) Iowa St Kansas K-State Missouri Nebraska OU Okie st Colorado BYU Utah SWC (+/-) Texas Texas A&M TCU Texas Tech Baylor SMU Houston Arkansas Memphis Tulane ACC Wake Forest Duke UNC NC State Virginia Maryland Clemson Florida St Georgia Tech South Carolina Big East West Virginia VaTech Miami Rutgers Cincinnati Louisville BC Pitt Penn State Notre Dame
@@yellowmartian ooh, I like this one a lot. Although I think you forgot Syracuse; they could probably take ND’s spot, but then UCF doesn’t have anywhere to go, unfortunately
I've been tossing out something like this for a long time. The problem is always the BIG8 and SWC. There just aren't enough higher value schools for 2 conference that would be close enough to peer with the others. Moreover, the old SWC died from being too TEXAS. The answer seems to be either two ~8 member conferences or a single ~12 member conference. If two smaller conferences, spread out the Texas teams and have some additional overlap. As an outsider, I see no material differences between (e.g.) KSTATE, IOWAST, and TXTECH in this context with COST other than a history of being on the inside or not. My combined Tier 1 conference for this region: ARK TEXAS TXAM OK OKST MO KANSAS KST IOWAST CO UTAH BYU
As a South Carolina fan, I would MUCH rather stay in the SEC. I wouldn't want to lose the ties to Georgia or the other teams in the conference. The Palmetto bowl already is one of the hottest rivalries in college football without sharing a conference, so it's really not necessary. Knowing a lot of "house divided" folks, the separation might even be good for the rivalry, to be honest. It's an easy fix, too, just put FSU back in the ACC.
I've commented on this also. USCAR is not an academic fit in the ACC, splitting the State of South Carolina between the SEC/ACC is fine, and it's a relatively balanced split with CLEMSON.
Not gonna lie I think Liberty is ranked that low but partially because of the Religious affiliation they have. I’d be curious where TCU, SMU, and BYU are on the list.
My quick reference on academics and overall athletics is the graph at the ~11-minute mark in the vid titled: "Big 12 Expansion Stats and Facts Breakdown | Conference Realignment | Tony Altimore x 365 Sports" Why is LIBERTY even a part of any discussion re: 10 member Tier 1 conferences?
The only things I would change would be the following: SoCon- Add 11th member Tulane Heartland/ GMWAC - Move Mizzo to the GMWAC and bring Iowa to the Heartland. SEC/ACC/BigEast- Move GaTch to SEC, VTch to the ACC and UK to the BigEast.
@@Colin-Fenix I’m on a phone, so yeah i messed up. I was also half asleep, so I missed adding Utah onto the PAC-12. BYU likely doesn’t make the cut this round only due to Geography. I would probably take Memphis out and add BYU to AAC also now that I think about it more. Could make AAC 14 teams add something like Colorado St, even though they aren’t great in football they have a good market and potential. Could also go Independent, especially in the streaming age where their popularity is spread around more and mostly localized to Utah.
For crying out loud. You could still play Bama and LSU, but would play KU and ISU instead of Miss State and Vanderbilt. Another couple of years like this one and the Sooner Faithful will be begging to rejoin the Big Twelve.
@@Blackash77 Would depend on the structure of these hypothetical conferences. Would OOC scheduling be arranged by a governing body? If so then they'd choose heavyweight matchups for OU on an annual basis. If it's like normal then those teams won't agree to play OU and OU might not want to load up their OOC schedule when no one else is required to do so.
Nah. Blow this whole realignment up lol. As an LSU grad, the Texas teams are basically irrelevant to me. Not playing Ole Miss, Florida, and Bama wouldn’t be LSU football.
Hey man, this is scarily close to an idea I've been working on for a few weeks. Only with an 8 team playoff, associate "Group of" conferences and some specific scheduling structure. If you're interested, shoot me a message.
I see you've considered my Heartland Conference idea! Nice. My version was basically just a rebranded Big 12 but your idea is good too Edit: I mean a rebranded version of the original 1996 Big 12
It’s nice to dream but it won’t happen unfortunately. Should Drop the pac 10 name. Obviously things keep changing. So you know some day it won’t be 10 schools.
You do know that Oklahoma and Oklahoma State aka Oklahoma A&M then was in the Southwest Conference before the Big 8 i already dont like you're alignment and video this is dumb........ Oklahoma southern keep them that way 💥
Oklahoma A&M was a charter member of the SW Conference from 1915 to 1925. OU until1919. Oklahoma State has been a member of the Big Twelve almost as long as they were in the old Big 8. Most OSU alumni and fans prefer being in a conference with the Texas schools since most of our players come from Texas.
@dalukes , can you take a look at my idea of an 8 conference setup: NorthWestern Conference 1. Oregon 2. Oregon St 3. Washington 4. Washington St 5. Boise St 6. BYU 7. Utah 8. Cal 9. Stanford 10. Hawai'i SouthEast Conference 1. Georgia 2. Georgia Tech 3. Florida 4. Florida St 5. Miami 6. UCF 7. Alabama 8. Auburn 9. Tennessee 10. Vanderbilt SouthWest Conference 1. Arizona 2. Arizona St 3. USC 4. UCLA 5. UNLV 6. Texas Tech 7. TCU 8. Baylor 9. SMU 10. Houston NorthEast Conference 1. Penn St 2. Pitt 3. Syracuse 4. Rutgers 5. West Virginia 6. Army 7. Navy 8. Maryland 9. UMass 10. Boston College Big North Conference 1. Ohio St 2. Michigan 3. Michigan St 4. Illinois 5. NorthWestern 6. Indiana 7. Purdue 8. Wisconsin 9. Minnesota 10. Marshall /or/ Notre Dame Big South Conference 1. Texas 2. Texas A&M 3. Oklahoma 4. Oklahoma St 5. LSU 6. Tulane 7. Ole Miss 8. Mississippi St 9. Arkansas 10. Memphis Big Plains Conference 1. Nebraska 2. Missouri 3. Colorado 4. Colorado St 5. Kansas 6. Kansas St 7. Iowa 8. Iowa St 9. Air Force 10. Wyoming Big East Conference 1. Clemson 2. South Carolina 3. Kentucky 4. Louisville 5. Cincinnati 6. Wake Forest 7. Duke 8. UNC 9. Virginia 10. Virginia Tech
I think keeping Va Tech in the ACC and making UCF an independent would make more sense, to me the Hokies probably care more about their affiliation with Tobacco Road than up north.
As a Virginia Tech fan, I always cherish the rivalries with West Virginia and the outright desecration of Boston College. Even Miami was always bad blood in the Big East.
That’s true. Iowa fans act like the Nebraska rivalry is bigger than the Minnesota one even though it’s just cope. They don’t like that Minnesotas biggest game is Wisconsin and they are number 2
Sounds like a good idea although I would force Notre Dame to join a conference whether they want to or not since I don’t independent teams should exist anymore. I think the Big Ten would be a good fit for them in this setup. Anyway, independent teams really belong in a bygone era and they also mess everything up. Everyone should in a conference. I would also get rid of Liberty University completely since I don’t like fundie schools or religious fundamentalism in general. I would also keep LSU in the SEC as well
Liberty's academics kind of come with the territory of their mission to educate with a Christian perspective. Because of that they don't have as high of a rejection rate as some other Universities. That only explains some of it though. I mean they have an entire class on young earth creationism which obviously doesn't really transfer to any other University (and doesn't need to be required...). I disagree with Daluke's opinions about Liberty. They are definitely a good program that should be on the rise for years to come (yes I am aware of the KSU loss). Just dont hate. If you disagree that's fine, but if you can't say anything nice best not to say anything at all.
@@lukeontheplains As you should, but I mean that's not exclusive to Liberty. Baylor, Penn State, Duke, UNC, Florida State, Kent St, Ohio. All have sexual assault allegations levied against them and that's not even counting all the title 9 violations from other institutions. Liberty after all the Falwell Jr stuff has started to address it (I mean you could argue that it shouldn't have taken a scandal for them to address it, which is fair) but they seem to be moving in the right direction. I'm sure some of those other schools are moving in the right direction (I'd hope) but the point being is that's not a Liberty exclusive issue. Just seems like you're more interested in taking shots at Liberty but denying their athletic success.
@@lukeontheplains That whole scandal was so annoying. They love acting like they have high morals because they are a Christian school, and then we find out that their former president was very naughty
I cannot imagine LSU not being in the SEC under any circumstance. Move FSU from the SEC to the ACC and demote either UCF or USF to somewhere in the group of 5
Thinking similarly. I have no issues with overlapping states, especially for the ACC and SEC (or whatever they are called here). USCAR is the flag and has better overall sports, but CLEMSON has better academics and football ~and~ is an ACC founder. FLORIDA is the flagship, has elite academics, and is a blue in overall sports, but FSU/MIAMI balances as a pair. Not much one can do to balance GEORGIA and GATECH.
The ACC doesn't want USCAR back either, but I get the concept. A clean ACC would be the flags and #2s from Virgina down to Georgia + DUKE/WAKE. UGA now has the academics for the ACC brand; USCAR doesn't but was an original founder and has geo.
Your proposed Southern Conference sucks! Texas, A&M, LSU, and Arkansas like being in the SEC. We don’t want to be in with Baylor, TCU, SMU, Houston, Memphis, and Texas Tech! Also, wherever Texas goes, Oklahoma goes. This alignment sucks!
This will never fly. Very unstable. Too many mouths to feed. Small pie slices. The big brands will bolt to form a realistic league of 32-38 schools. A league that allows member schools to negotiate their own TV deals.
The Bluebloods will find themselves in some serious antitrust lawsuits if they try to do that. The networks and playoff organization, too. The Bluebloods want all of the money and the glory but they won't be able to keep the lesser programs from competing. There is plenty of money and networks to support an eighty team super conference.
@@bryanpbrowning8620 You have to remember that Stanford and Cal-Berkeley would never ever want Boise State or BYU in the conference due to thinking that they are better than them or religious reasons.
@@bryanpbrowning8620 They do have a lot of say, due to them being in the California market and their academic standing. You also have to remember they also have revenue due to them being in the Bay Area market. Not to mention, some schools or athletic directors can hold grudges with others.
@@M_11_m41n Cal and Stanford are the spoiled brats of College Football. Their teams are shit. They think academics prevails over playoff revenue. The smartest thing those so called academics could have done is stay in the PAC conference. Instead they join a conference that only wanted them so Clemson and Miami had weak ass teams to beat up on helping them make the playoffs easier instead of helping Cal and Stanford as new football members. Cal and Stanford were not good football or basketball programs in the PAC. What makes them think they'll survive in the ACC. Every team they play 3k miles away. No regional footprint except themselves. That snobby bullshit attitude is what led them to make the mistake of joining the ACC. I guarantee that academics didn't get factored into the equation of joining the ACC. It was about money. And TBH they would've made more by grabbing the top MTN West schools 2 years ago the moment USC and Oregon said they were leaving. Doing so would've saved the eventually downfall of the PAC 12. It would've stayed intact. So much for their "academic standards" because now they'll always be bottom tier ACC schools in all sports
@@bryanpbrowning8620 The ACC and Big 10 really wanted the California schools because of their brand. College football is no longer about the regional identity or being able to hit the road to go against the rival that's close to you. Stanford and Cal use their academic standing and California market to get into a desperate ACC. And, SMU just paid their way there and has lucrative recruiting grounds in Texas. That's just the new reality, unfortunately.
I laughed the second you put up the "Great Midwest Athletic Conference" logo...that good sir is a D2 conference, I know I played in it. So I enjoyed the indirect shout out 🤣🏈
I love reusing those D2/D3/NAIA conference logos where I can, because some of them have such great names and logos!
@@lukeontheplains Makes sense and I 100% agree
Fellow GMAC athlete here (ODU), best conference ever!
That go Kenn State comment aged like fine wine
I was at that game yesterday, so crazy
Kennesaw State got it done!!
Fun fact: Colorado has played Utah a total of 70 times in their history, more than all of the Plains Conference foes other than Nebraska and Missouri and tied with Kansas.
That was not the PAC-12 forcing a rivalry as much as trying to rekindle it.
I've spoken to a bunch of Utah and Colorado fans about the game when they joined the conference, and only one of them told me they cared about the game. I knew they played a lot in the RMAC... I just assumed that constant play does not a rivalry make. Is Alabama more of a rival with LSU than Auburn?
@@lukeontheplainsI think the lsu-bama-auburn comparison makes a lot of sense but also helps prove the opposite point. Yeah, there will always be eyes on the iron bowl whenever it rolls around (colorado-nebraska) but I think most bama fans and cfb fans in general have more investment in any bama-lsu (colorado-utah) game as lsu is simply gonna be the more competitive game in any given year. Nebraska’s been good this year and did crush colorado but the modern cfb landscape probably favors utah over nebraska in terms of competitiveness.
All I’m tryna say is, while colorado fans might not “care” about the utah matchup, it’s typically gonna have much bigger implications on the season than the nebraska game
Liberty losing to essentially an fcs school (kennesaw) AND being comedically dumb will never not bring me pleasure. Great video Dalukes
Wisconsin fan here, I have never seen that Badgers logo with the w behind a crawling badger, but that might be the coolest logo I have ever seen.
Kennesaw State comment aged perfectly lmao
As a Bama fan, I would hate to lose LSU in the SEC, would definitely rather have them than FSU
Yeah, we're one of the premier schools in the SEC. It'd be a huge blow to the SEC. Instead of putting LSU, he should've put Mississippi State
Yeah. As an LSU grad, I hate Bama but I’d hate not playing them more.
Most underrated channel on RUclips. Love all your vids!
LSU vs Texas A&M was definitely a historic rivalry that only was dormant when they were in the Big 12. Just know that you can't keep everyone in the SEC together just because everyone for some reason seems to have a rivalry with Alabama. Even old Georgia Tech had arguably the strongest out of state rivalry with them up until they left the SEC
A&M/LSU is the best rivalry in football. It was so good they changed the rules of the game because it was too awesome.
Lsu isn't even A&M's biggest rivalry what are you on lmao you guys sing about how much you hate Texas every game in the War Hymn. How is lsu a bigger rival than texas like make it make sense lol
Personally, Lucas, I think you did an excellent job with the conference realignment in this video. And I especially love those conference logos! 👍⭐️ Keep up the great work, as always.
U should simulate a season with these conferences either make up what happens or use an online simulator or something. Would be interested to see what happens with the cfp and nit tournaments
5:06 gotta have Notre Dame in the Big 10. I get keeping them independent
Yeah no keep tradition in CFB that’s what ruining it today plus a conference with OSU Michigan and ND would make the other conferences greedy in realignment and we will have what we have today
Great video, I love seeing what people want conferences to look like compared to what they are today. The only changes I would make is swap Memphis for Tulane so LSU has a buddy, switch FSU and South Carolina back, and drop UConn, they struggle in football and no conf should be at 11 when every other one is at 10.
As of Virginia Tech fan, I love the Big East and I'm happy we're kicked up to the Northeast in this video.
No no, your Big East Conference is perfect. We'll(WVU) gladly take back Pitt, VT, SU, and UL as in conference rivals again and welcome Maryland as a new in conference rival.
Yeah would be interesting facing Maryland as a rival. Turtles are one of my top 5 favorite animals so it be interesting to see
w WVU fan
@@godzilla3h Maryland is always an ACC school
@@godzilla3h Put Penn State in the conference so we can have Old Iron Sides back.
@@M_11_m41n "Maryland is always an ACC school"
Don't think so anymore. Most seem to view UMD as a BIGEAST type now. It's now a plug school for this type of exercise.
This is an exercise I do whenever I have insomnia, which is a lot. As the Iron-Fisted Commissioner in this imaginary scenario I force Notre Dame to choose between being a power conference member or a "Group of" independent; they join the Great Lakes Conference with nine of the original Big Ten members (all but Iowa, which doesn't border a Great Lake). Iowa is part of the Great Plains Conference (your Heartland), replacing the Oklahoma schools along with Arkansas. OU and OSU join with the seven Texas schools and LSU to revive the Southwest Conference. My SEC and ACC are almost identical to yours, except USC and FSU stay where they are. And my Mid-Atlantic and Pacific Coast Conferences are the same as your Big East and Pac-10. But your alignment works for me, and if ND had chosen to remain independent I would have moved Arkansas and Memphis into the SWC, the Okies would be in the Great Plains and Iowa would be back with their Big 10 brothers.
I agree that Iowa should be in the Heartland Conference (Big 8/Big 12) instead of the Great Lakes (Big 10).
Would be an awkward reunion of the Pac 10 but it wouldn't be the first time. When the Pacific Coast Conference collapse with most of the same schools they did reconcile their relationship.
Always like these videos and your constant iterations of a true northeast conference it makes my soul happy. Can you make a conference realignment that fits the limitations of college football 25? I don’t want to limit you to 12 and 14 team conferences etc if you decide to do it.
I do love doing this in games and it works so nicely. I know money is the reason it won't happen but it always is nice because everyone plays everyone
I need a vid on which FCS teams you think could move up to FBS
Maybe like Furman, Tarelton State or Villanova?
Also maybe replace LSU with Tulane in the SoCon
Nice pair of videos. Pretty solid scheme, overall.
Inspired by your example, I came up with a model with 12 paired conferences with promotion & relegation. Six upper level conferences have 12 teams each, and the six lower vary between 10 and 11. In my mind it seems elegant. 😂
I’d be curious to see how u would realign teams into 12 team conferences with divisions
Weird question but would 12 teams Coferences work better? Also like the idea of the Big East /Metro Coference?
~06:06 ACC - UCF doesn't fit brand and no reason to include a recently elevated G5. Replace with VATECH or switch for GEORGIA (LSU was moved out of the SEC in your plan).
@@tarheel7406 As a Virginia Tech fan, I want the Big East or Eastern Athletic Conference so bad.
@@M_11_m41n I assumed that VATECH would prefer the better academic and overall sports conference but will defer to fans. Still need to replace UCF, so either MARYLAND, GEORGIA or FSU.
@@M_11_m41n So for this exercise and taking VATECH's preferences in consideration per your comment, my 10-member feasible ACC:
UVA
UNC
NCSTATE
DUKE
WAKE
CLEMSON
GATECH
FSU
MIAMI
MARYLAND or USCAR
Thanks for the NCAA 25 ideas
This is the exact alignment I've been running with in CFB25 (and NCAA 14). I just flip Memphis for Tulane and Boston College for Notre Dame (and drop UConn)
I always felt like Florida alone would be able to make up a conference.
Miami 🙌
FSU
Gators
All top brands
UCF
USF
More good brands and rivalries
FIU
FAU
Then bringing up Bethune Cookman to help spread across the entire state.
Would be a fun conference to watch.
Texas and Cali might be better just because of how big their states are. But still.... Outside of those two.... We could make a conference out of in state teams alone and still be pretty darn good.
to me i think 12 or 14 team conferences help a lot more than doing 10 or 11 teams, yes it adds in a conference championship game but it also kinda eases and flexes schedules for most(if not all) of the teams doing so, like personally i'd add in both of the Nevada schools into the Pac and it'd make 100% sense and you could do an almost perfect north/south split with it and just protect the UNLV/UNR rivalry as a mandated game every year
In the past, I think I also prefer 12 member Tier 1 conferences for this exercise; nevertheless, I recall issues with creating a new BIG12 and new BIGEAST due to a lack of quality once the PAC, B1G, ACC and SEC are more easily set.
Nevertheless, your comment illustrates the problems with finding a 12th PAC member after UTAH (11th). I maintain that geo and culture should be respected, and BYU doesn't fit that culture even though Tier 1 qualified and the geo works.
@@tarheel7406 New Mexico is just under Oregon St in Endowment. Would slot in fine as 12th member. Nevada is a lil lower but may slot in better geographically. Both still R1 research schools. Maybe under an goal of increasing endowment closer to OSU.
@@Greggyou812 Per the source I reference, NM is a rough academic peer of WVU and BAMA. I'm less familiar with the schools out west, but I assume there are reasons why NM has lingered outside of the major conferences.
Not a huge fam of the So-Con, being a southwest conference die-hard, but in the era of media deals this is probably how it would work :/
The old Big 8 with Illinois and Arkansas would be a Mizzou dream scenario
I have a number of thoughts after watching this video:
1. LSU vs. Texas A&M is actually a very important game this year, as both teams are competing to stay at the top of the SEC, and great timing on the video as that game is one day from now. Perhaps there is still hope for this rivalry yet.
2. It doesn't make sense to me why Iowa leaned instead of the Big 8, it just seems like a better fit, if nothing else because Iowa and Iowa State would have been an in-conference matchup. But, as it is, you now need to leave Iowa with the rest of the Big 10 teams because that's where the history is.
3. Florida State is already awful in the ACC this year- they would be even worse if Georgia, Alabama, Texas, etc. were beating up on them every week- but it is a nice geographical fit, so I like it.
4. I like UConn in the Big East, and if you put UConn in the Big East you can put Virginia Tech back in the ACC.
5. I like the NIT idea for your more prominent non-New Year's Six Bowls, while the remaining bowls can be for the teams that barely made it to bowl eligibility.
I had similar except:
Iowa -> Heartland
Oklahoma -> SoCon
Notre Dame -> Big Ten
Memphis -> G7
FSU and SC flip
I like an 8 team playoff with the G5.
I think a 12 team playoff would work best with 7 conf champs.
It’s a shame this will never happen 💔
Never skip a dalukes video
Hear me out, what about a Mountain West Conference with BYU, Utah, Boise state, Colorado, Colorado State, Utah State, Air Force, Wyoming, Montana, and Montana State. That would be a really fun conference. Probably wouldn’t be “power standard” though, but I believe a conference like that has some serious potential because of how fun it would be having every Colorado and Utah school plus Boise and Wyoming, there’d be multiple rivalry games every week
While the Big 8 + Utah schools is interesting, it doesn’t make sense regionally. I would’ve added S Dakota St and another Missouri school or Tulsa
The Dakota schools I wouldn't add because they don't have the money to move up to the FBS level. As for Tulsa, I would have them go to the Southwest Conference because they have rivalries with Houston and Rice.
That’s a worse solution
An interior west conference would be cool but unrealistic. UA, ASU, UU, BYU, CU, CSU, BSU, WYO, NEV, UNLV. It would be a weak "power" conference tho
What universities finished below Liberty University? USNWR is trash but I can't get it to scroll that far.
Lets say you put Arkansas and Texas Tech in the Heartland, then you move Ole Miss and Mississippi State to the SOCON, who would replace them in the SEC? Or Tulane in the SOCON? Thoughts?
I'm loving the socon. Memphis alumni speaking here
I prefer 8 conferences of 10 teams. It's so easy to have round-robin scheduling, hence no conference championships, and the 8 conference champions can then be the 8 playoff teams. This is my lineup:
Big East: Boston College, Syracuse, Rutgers, Penn State, Pitt, West Virginia, Louisville, Cincinnati, Virginia Tech, Miami (FL)
ACC: Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, Duke, NC State, Wake Forest, Clemson, South Carolina, Georgia Tech, Florida State
SEC: Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, LSU, Tennessee, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Georgia, Florida
SWC: Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU, SMU, Houston, Rice, Arkansas, Memphis
B1G: Minnesota, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Illinois, Indiana, Purdue, Notre Dame, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State
BIG XII: Iowa, Iowa State, Nebraska, Missouri, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Colorado, Colorado State
MWC: Utah, Utah State, BYU, Arizona, Arizona State, Nevada, UNLV, Boise State, Wyoming, New Mexico
PAC-10: Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Cal, Stanford, USC, UCLA, Fresno State, San Diego State
Big East/ACC play in Peach Bowl, SEC/SWC in the Cotton Bowl, B1G/BIG XII in the Orange Bowl and MWC/PAC-10 in the Fiesta Bowl, with the Peach/Cotton Bowl winners playing in the Sugar Bowl semifinal and the Orange/Fiesta Bowl winners playing in the Rose Bowl semifinal before the CFP Championship.
Similar to yours, I had to make a couple sacrifices - Iowa is left out of the B1G in favor of Notre Dame since my system has no independents, and UCF just missed the cut on school endowment size and not really fitting the Big East, ACC, or SEC without messing up rivalries.
I like it but I think it would it make more sense to switch Miami (FL) and Maryland? I know Maryland has a historical link to the ACC and the U was once in the Big East but geographically speaking it doesn't really make sense.
As your ACC consultant, I approve 👍
UCF has no place in the ACC.
Louisville, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, and West Virginia are together so I’m beyond happy. Also Virginia tech because they’re the nicest fan base to me here online
Why 10/11 vs 12? The 12 team conferences had fairly manageable tiebreakers with even only 8 conference games.
so every team can play each other
Mine goes like this:
PAC 10
UA
Az St
USC
UCLA
CAL
Stanford
UO
Oregon St
UW
Washington St
Big 10
Iowa
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Illinois
NW
Purdue
Indiana
Michigan
Michigan St
Ohio St
SEC
Florida
Georgia
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Kentucky
Alabama
Auburn
Ole Miss
Miss St
LSU
Big 8 (Heartland)
Iowa St
Kansas
K-State
Missouri
Nebraska
OU
Okie st
Colorado
BYU
Utah
SWC (+/-)
Texas
Texas A&M
TCU
Texas Tech
Baylor
SMU
Houston
Arkansas
Memphis
Tulane
ACC
Wake Forest
Duke
UNC
NC State
Virginia
Maryland
Clemson
Florida St
Georgia Tech
South Carolina
Big East
West Virginia
VaTech
Miami
Rutgers
Cincinnati
Louisville
BC
Pitt
Penn State
Notre Dame
@@yellowmartian ooh, I like this one a lot. Although I think you forgot Syracuse; they could probably take ND’s spot, but then UCF doesn’t have anywhere to go, unfortunately
I've been tossing out something like this for a long time. The problem is always the BIG8 and SWC. There just aren't enough higher value schools for 2 conference that would be close enough to peer with the others. Moreover, the old SWC died from being too TEXAS. The answer seems to be either two ~8 member conferences or a single ~12 member conference. If two smaller conferences, spread out the Texas teams and have some additional overlap.
As an outsider, I see no material differences between (e.g.) KSTATE, IOWAST, and TXTECH in this context with COST other than a history of being on the inside or not. My combined Tier 1 conference for this region:
ARK
TEXAS
TXAM
OK
OKST
MO
KANSAS
KST
IOWAST
CO
UTAH
BYU
@@yellowmartian I need this in my life....
LSU and Texas would be a nice rivalry in the SoCon, as it will become a nice one in the SEC today, and would have if Texas was in the SEC earlier.
Agree with your heartland conference but you could just created the old swc with Memphis. And the sec before 1991
If we’re stealing conference names the Heartland should definitely be the Missouri Valley, FCS can go back to being the Gateway😂
But Notre Dame is considered a Power 5 school because it's history in football, their rivals and their achievements.
hey dalukes what school do you support?
@@JamesKirkpatrick-bt6jr He went to Kansas State and is a Kansas State fan.
Personally, as a Mizzou fan, I know a BYU fan so I would be fine with this conference
As a South Carolina fan, I would MUCH rather stay in the SEC. I wouldn't want to lose the ties to Georgia or the other teams in the conference. The Palmetto bowl already is one of the hottest rivalries in college football without sharing a conference, so it's really not necessary. Knowing a lot of "house divided" folks, the separation might even be good for the rivalry, to be honest. It's an easy fix, too, just put FSU back in the ACC.
I've commented on this also. USCAR is not an academic fit in the ACC, splitting the State of South Carolina between the SEC/ACC is fine, and it's a relatively balanced split with CLEMSON.
How about 134 1 team conferences
Not gonna lie I think Liberty is ranked that low but partially because of the Religious affiliation they have. I’d be curious where TCU, SMU, and BYU are on the list.
My quick reference on academics and overall athletics is the graph at the ~11-minute mark in the vid titled:
"Big 12 Expansion Stats and Facts Breakdown | Conference Realignment | Tony Altimore x 365 Sports"
Why is LIBERTY even a part of any discussion re: 10 member Tier 1 conferences?
Acc to Virginia tech and Maryland
Feel like USF should get in there somehow
penn state-uconn every year would starve families 😭🙏
Why wouldn’t boise be power 5
If you go by school size and academics. Colorado state should replace Kansas state in the heartland.
Boise State and Liberty get in as well
Why not call the Midwest conference the big 10? Those were the original big 10 teams
Happy to see justice for Memphis.
No Boise State, but we’re going out of our way to add Memphis and UConn? Try again, Dalukes!
maybe when Boise State can be capable of being a power school they can get in
@@lukeontheplains ouch! Lol, I’ll give you that, but Memphis?
BTW, I’ve no ties to either. Enjoy your videos.
Friends don’t let friends put texas in their conference. ☝🏽Give them back their little network and have them exist as an FBS independent.
¡Viva Big East!
The only things I would change would be the following:
SoCon- Add 11th member Tulane
Heartland/ GMWAC - Move Mizzo to the GMWAC and bring Iowa to the Heartland.
SEC/ACC/BigEast- Move GaTch to SEC, VTch to the ACC and UK to the BigEast.
Should have gone with 6 conferences with 12 teams
My P6 would be
AAC
BC, UConn, Syracuse, Cincy, UofL, WF
UCF, USF, Memphis, Tulane, Baylor, Houston,
ACC - Penn St, Rutgers, WVU, Maryland, VA Tech
NCSt, Clemson, GA Tech, FSU, Miami, Auburn
Big 10
Pitt, OSU, Mich, MSU, Indiana, NW
Ill, Wisc, Minn, Iowa, Missouri, Nebraska
Big 12
Colorado, K State, KU, ISU, Purdue, OK St
OU, Tex, TCU, TTech, Arkansas, Miss St
PAC 12
Wash, WSU, UO, OSU, Cal, Stanford
UCLA, USC, Arizona, ASU, New Mexico, Utah***
SEC
Virginia, UNC, Duke, SCar, Georgia, Florida
Kentucky, Tenn, Vandy, Bama, Ole Miss, LSU
Independent: Notre Dame and possibly BYU.
***edited to fix points made by commenter below.
@@Greggyou812 you have “Mew Mexico” in the PAC but only eleven teams. You have Memphis, and Tulane? But you left out BYU and Utah Sorry, lame!
@@Colin-Fenix I’m on a phone, so yeah i messed up. I was also half asleep, so I missed adding Utah onto the PAC-12.
BYU likely doesn’t make the cut this round only due to Geography. I would probably take Memphis out and add BYU to AAC also now that I think about it more. Could make AAC 14 teams add something like Colorado St, even though they aren’t great in football they have a good market and potential.
Could also go Independent, especially in the streaming age where their popularity is spread around more and mostly localized to Utah.
Very disappointed you didn't add Maryland back to the ACC where they belong
OU fans would riot if we were forced to play Kansas and Iowa State again instead of Bama and LSU.
For crying out loud. You could still play Bama and LSU, but would play KU and ISU instead of Miss State and Vanderbilt. Another couple of years like this one and the Sooner Faithful will be begging to rejoin the Big Twelve.
@@Blackash77 Would depend on the structure of these hypothetical conferences. Would OOC scheduling be arranged by a governing body? If so then they'd choose heavyweight matchups for OU on an annual basis. If it's like normal then those teams won't agree to play OU and OU might not want to load up their OOC schedule when no one else is required to do so.
Nah. Blow this whole realignment up lol. As an LSU grad, the Texas teams are basically irrelevant to me. Not playing Ole Miss, Florida, and Bama wouldn’t be LSU football.
Hey man, this is scarily close to an idea I've been working on for a few weeks. Only with an 8 team playoff, associate "Group of" conferences and some specific scheduling structure. If you're interested, shoot me a message.
I see you've considered my Heartland Conference idea! Nice. My version was basically just a rebranded Big 12 but your idea is good too
Edit: I mean a rebranded version of the original 1996 Big 12
No good
@@corneliusdansbyjr6165 I mean a rebranded version of the original 1996 Big 12
@@TimberWolfer63 I can dig it
It’s nice to dream but it won’t happen unfortunately. Should Drop the pac 10 name. Obviously things keep changing. So you know some day it won’t be 10 schools.
UConn gets in !!!! they cant stop my huskies
I would just kick UConn down to the FCS with UMass.
You do know that Oklahoma and Oklahoma State aka Oklahoma A&M then was in the Southwest Conference before the Big 8 i already dont like you're alignment and video this is dumb........ Oklahoma southern keep them that way 💥
Oklahoma State was in the Southwest for like 4 years. Oklahoma was in it for like 2. They have more history with the central plains teams.
Oklahoma A&M was a charter member of the SW Conference from 1915 to 1925. OU until1919. Oklahoma State has been a member of the Big Twelve almost as long as they were in the old Big 8. Most OSU alumni and fans prefer being in a conference with the Texas schools since most of our players come from Texas.
@dalukes , can you take a look at my idea of an 8 conference setup:
NorthWestern Conference
1. Oregon
2. Oregon St
3. Washington
4. Washington St
5. Boise St
6. BYU
7. Utah
8. Cal
9. Stanford
10. Hawai'i
SouthEast Conference
1. Georgia
2. Georgia Tech
3. Florida
4. Florida St
5. Miami
6. UCF
7. Alabama
8. Auburn
9. Tennessee
10. Vanderbilt
SouthWest Conference
1. Arizona
2. Arizona St
3. USC
4. UCLA
5. UNLV
6. Texas Tech
7. TCU
8. Baylor
9. SMU
10. Houston
NorthEast Conference
1. Penn St
2. Pitt
3. Syracuse
4. Rutgers
5. West Virginia
6. Army
7. Navy
8. Maryland
9. UMass
10. Boston College
Big North Conference
1. Ohio St
2. Michigan
3. Michigan St
4. Illinois
5. NorthWestern
6. Indiana
7. Purdue
8. Wisconsin
9. Minnesota
10. Marshall /or/ Notre Dame
Big South Conference
1. Texas
2. Texas A&M
3. Oklahoma
4. Oklahoma St
5. LSU
6. Tulane
7. Ole Miss
8. Mississippi St
9. Arkansas
10. Memphis
Big Plains Conference
1. Nebraska
2. Missouri
3. Colorado
4. Colorado St
5. Kansas
6. Kansas St
7. Iowa
8. Iowa St
9. Air Force
10. Wyoming
Big East Conference
1. Clemson
2. South Carolina
3. Kentucky
4. Louisville
5. Cincinnati
6. Wake Forest
7. Duke
8. UNC
9. Virginia
10. Virginia Tech
I think keeping Va Tech in the ACC and making UCF an independent would make more sense, to me the Hokies probably care more about their affiliation with Tobacco Road than up north.
As a Virginia Tech fan, I always cherish the rivalries with West Virginia and the outright desecration of Boston College. Even Miami was always bad blood in the Big East.
That’s true. Iowa fans act like the Nebraska rivalry is bigger than the Minnesota one even though it’s just cope. They don’t like that Minnesotas biggest game is Wisconsin and they are number 2
Dude...Penn State would end up dominating your BigEast 9 years outta 10....kinda boring
not with Franklin at head coach. They'd find a great new inventive way to lose in week 12 to 6-5 Pitt or Syracuse
Ok, so they go 8-1. Probably BC be more then Syracuse to beat State.
Maybe Pitt would get their head out of their butts with Penn State back on the schedule
Sounds like a good idea although I would force Notre Dame to join a conference whether they want to or not since I don’t independent teams should exist anymore. I think the Big Ten would be a good fit for them in this setup. Anyway, independent teams really belong in a bygone era and they also mess everything up. Everyone should in a conference. I would also get rid of Liberty University completely since I don’t like fundie schools or religious fundamentalism in general. I would also keep LSU in the SEC as well
Keep the core 10-member B1G together; put ND in the new BIGEAST, which needs bigger brands.
Liberty's academics kind of come with the territory of their mission to educate with a Christian perspective. Because of that they don't have as high of a rejection rate as some other Universities. That only explains some of it though. I mean they have an entire class on young earth creationism which obviously doesn't really transfer to any other University (and doesn't need to be required...).
I disagree with Daluke's opinions about Liberty. They are definitely a good program that should be on the rise for years to come (yes I am aware of the KSU loss).
Just dont hate. If you disagree that's fine, but if you can't say anything nice best not to say anything at all.
Hard for me not to hate on a program that consistently silences assault. I will never be okay with that.
@@lukeontheplains As you should, but I mean that's not exclusive to Liberty. Baylor, Penn State, Duke, UNC, Florida State, Kent St, Ohio. All have sexual assault allegations levied against them and that's not even counting all the title 9 violations from other institutions. Liberty after all the Falwell Jr stuff has started to address it (I mean you could argue that it shouldn't have taken a scandal for them to address it, which is fair) but they seem to be moving in the right direction. I'm sure some of those other schools are moving in the right direction (I'd hope) but the point being is that's not a Liberty exclusive issue. Just seems like you're more interested in taking shots at Liberty but denying their athletic success.
I'm not denying their athletic success. They have a spot at the FBS table. Kent State doesn't, for example. I moved Kent back to FCS.
@@lukeontheplains That whole scandal was so annoying. They love acting like they have high morals because they are a Christian school, and then we find out that their former president was very naughty
I cannot imagine LSU not being in the SEC under any circumstance. Move FSU from the SEC to the ACC and demote either UCF or USF to somewhere in the group of 5
Thinking similarly. I have no issues with overlapping states, especially for the ACC and SEC (or whatever they are called here). USCAR is the flag and has better overall sports, but CLEMSON has better academics and football ~and~ is an ACC founder. FLORIDA is the flagship, has elite academics, and is a blue in overall sports, but FSU/MIAMI balances as a pair. Not much one can do to balance GEORGIA and GATECH.
I don't understand the Liberty hate
www.propublica.org/article/liberty-university-fined-sexual-assault-safety
😂Great video but South carolina don't want to go back to the ACC.
Nebraska and Oklahoma don't want to go back to the Big 8. This isn't about what they want. It's about what I want.
The ACC doesn't want USCAR back either, but I get the concept. A clean ACC would be the flags and #2s from Virgina down to Georgia + DUKE/WAKE. UGA now has the academics for the ACC brand; USCAR doesn't but was an original founder and has geo.
@@lukeontheplains👍
Your proposed Southern Conference sucks!
Texas, A&M, LSU, and Arkansas like being in the SEC.
We don’t want to be in with Baylor, TCU, SMU, Houston, Memphis, and Texas Tech!
Also, wherever Texas goes, Oklahoma goes.
This alignment sucks!
> "we"
found one, boys
Dropping SC from the SEC is absolutely unforgivable
This will never fly. Very unstable. Too many mouths to feed. Small pie slices. The big brands will bolt to form a realistic league of 32-38 schools. A league that allows member schools to negotiate their own TV deals.
The Bluebloods will find themselves in some serious antitrust lawsuits if they try to do that. The networks and playoff organization, too.
The Bluebloods want all of the money and the glory but they won't be able to keep the lesser programs from competing. There is plenty of money and networks to support an eighty team super conference.
Lmfao another biased narrative.... Boise State of course getting just an honorable mention 🤣
@@bryanpbrowning8620 You have to remember that Stanford and Cal-Berkeley would never ever want Boise State or BYU in the conference due to thinking that they are better than them or religious reasons.
@@M_11_m41n who cares about Cal or Stanford....when's they last time those teams were actually relevant
@@bryanpbrowning8620 They do have a lot of say, due to them being in the California market and their academic standing. You also have to remember they also have revenue due to them being in the Bay Area market. Not to mention, some schools or athletic directors can hold grudges with others.
@@M_11_m41n Cal and Stanford are the spoiled brats of College Football. Their teams are shit. They think academics prevails over playoff revenue. The smartest thing those so called academics could have done is stay in the PAC conference. Instead they join a conference that only wanted them so Clemson and Miami had weak ass teams to beat up on helping them make the playoffs easier instead of helping Cal and Stanford as new football members. Cal and Stanford were not good football or basketball programs in the PAC. What makes them think they'll survive in the ACC. Every team they play 3k miles away. No regional footprint except themselves. That snobby bullshit attitude is what led them to make the mistake of joining the ACC. I guarantee that academics didn't get factored into the equation of joining the ACC. It was about money. And TBH they would've made more by grabbing the top MTN West schools 2 years ago the moment USC and Oregon said they were leaving.
Doing so would've saved the eventually downfall of the PAC 12. It would've stayed intact. So much for their "academic standards" because now they'll always be bottom tier ACC schools in all sports
@@bryanpbrowning8620 The ACC and Big 10 really wanted the California schools because of their brand. College football is no longer about the regional identity or being able to hit the road to go against the rival that's close to you. Stanford and Cal use their academic standing and California market to get into a desperate ACC. And, SMU just paid their way there and has lucrative recruiting grounds in Texas. That's just the new reality, unfortunately.