Being The Recruiting Bridesmaid
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
- The Trojans came in second place again with one of their recruiting battles. On this episode, special guest Chris Arledge talks about USC's recruiting challenges and who is to blame. As well as who is not to blame.
We talk about the coaching staff, the front office, and the roster and what will happen next.
In the 3rd segment, Chris and I explain what makes a blueblood program and how you can't buy your way into the club.
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If there is a better analyst covering USC Football than Chris Arledge, I don't know who it is.
Awesome, Chris Arledge making a rare appearance on Locked On USC!
You guys are 100% right, WIN and they will come.
Not really. Players have always gone to SC for $ even before NIL era.
It’s also how they win…if USC wins and still gives up 30-40pts, expect the same recruiting outcome next year. If the Offense is clicking on all cylinders and the defense actually looks like a defense…it’s definitely Go Time with recruits.
WOW, saying OU isn't better off then USC right now?? Seriously?? OU keeps pulling in top 10 classes since LR left. Our team was completely gutted by LR wen he left and our one bad season in 25 yrs means we're on the way down? Sorry buddy but y'all are oblivious to reality. Our coach has won 3 nattys as a coordinator, one with our team. LR=0. Venables took over a gutted team. LR took over a team and brought his best players from his previous team. OU has gotten better every yr with venables. USC has gotten worse every yr with LR. Usc is trying so hard to justify how good LR is wen the recruits are saying no USC is unproven. Those same recruits that keep saying no to USC probably remember that LR cucked out at OU and wudnt even face the players to tell them he's leaving. He had to b forced to man up by Bob stoops. You think the recruits don't remember the LR fiasco and slimey snakey behavior he exhibited during his departure from OU. LR's reputation is hurting USC. I get you wanna support the coaches. But your looking for a scapegoat wen the scapegoat is right in front of y'all. Y'all just won't admit it. But recruits who follow CFB remember wat he did and its hurting USC recruiting. It's obvious to everyone but USC fans.
No lies detected ☝🏽⭕️
Okay bro you are making way too much sense. They will NEVER admit we were right about LR. I'm just glad all these recruits realize that LR is a snake. They know LR's been on a nosedive the past 5 years.
@@johnnyjohns3863 we saw it up close and personal!
What does winning nattys as a coordinator mean? Nicknhokt won a bunch of nattys at USC. do you remember who Nick holt is or what he’s doing now? Lmao
USC fans are rightly saying, "Win and they will come." In the past 5 years Oregon has won a Rose Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, 2 Pac 12 Championships, 2-10 win seasons & 2-12 win seasons. But instead of making the link between success on the field and recruiting for Oregon they say they "dropped the bag" even though all evidence shows USC has spent more than Oregon. Kind of funny.
Haters goona hate.
Go Ducks!
Chris is the best guy out there covering SC football
Agree , he keeps it 💯
Facts
So does Martinez, he keeps it raw!
Puddy is very smart!
He says what we want to say, but he doesn't get ridiculed for it.
Riley’s your guy now. Live with it. Venables is our guy now. We’ll live with that. And we’ll do so gladly thank you very much.
As an Sc fan, I have some doubts about Riley. But I am not sold on Venables either. He lost more games in one year than Riley did in 5. And Texas has better better resources to succeed in the SEC than Oklahoma.
@@PhilNeimanOU rated higher in blue chip ratio. OU been beating Texas for decades with lesser rated players. Face it Texas sucks.
@@PhilNeiman Texas has all the resources. Hard to believe Texas is 1-5 against Oklahoma The past 6 games (including 2018 Big 12 championship game)
Finally a show that makes sense. Chris made tons of great points. I hope Trojan fans stop freaking out about SC losing out on recruits. If SC wins 10 games watch our recruiting soar. This defensive coaching staff is legit, elite coaching, plus hard-working, talented recruits will win you titles, Washington and Michigan proved that last year✌🏽⚔️
Yah but Washington and Michigan were the oldest teams last year. Plenty of 5th year seniors. Good thing though is those players bought in all those years. If USC can do that then yah they can put one in the trophy case. But you won’t be in contention for a natty or even a conference championship every year.
@@timothydesanto5822
Of course you can, if recruiting is working like clockwork. Your 4yr players leave them your 3rd year players become your new 4yr players and so forth. That's why you need great talent evaluators with elite coaching, SC has both. If Coach Harubaugh would have signed another 5 year contract, Michigan right now would be a CFB title contender. Also Michigan beat Ohio State in consecutive years when those same players were just 3yr players. I do think SC will recruit better than Michigan, so I don't see why Coach Link wouldn't be able to win a couple Natty's ✌🏽
Two of my favorite RUclips personalities in one show. Great idea Marc. Whatever happened to the Musings with Arledge show?
I wondered that too 😮
Good to see him!
Two sharp dudes- fav Trojans ✌️
Texas actually had a bigger offer for Dakorien Moore, compared to Oregon, according to Texas insiders. The trend is to blame Oregon for getting a recruit on NIL, but that’s a small factor. It’s always the school, the brand, and the coaches. The money is just the cherry on top of the sundae. The #1 reason Moore went to Oregon was because of Junior Adams. He coached Cooper Kupp, Puka Nacua, was the main recruiter for Washington that recruited Odunze, Polk, McMillan. Junior Adams is the real deal and that is the reason Moore committed. NFL development.
My father went to Ohio st. My mother to Michigan . Me to Minnesota and USC.
USC always has been on par with the first two.
So what's different?
In today's environment it's money and development. We all know the cause of USC's current issues. It's not offense it's defense and it's reputation.
Winning solves everything.
Great program .
“Oklahoma is just as bad off as USC is right now”
Lmao you obviously haven’t been watching what OU been doing lately or you just talking crazy for clicks
As long as Miller Moss plays close to Caleb Williams level, you guys will be fine😄
We watch just enough of Oklahoma to know that your triple-digit ranked defense was slightly better than USC's triple-digit ranked defense! LOL
SC CAN prove a lot with their tough schedule this season.
Great show today✌️🏈✌️
That was the most savage snack-down of OU fan I've ever heard 💀☠ 😂
Thanks for the great show, guys!
Chris is absolutely right about recruiting in that the top recruits are waiting to see if they will get what they’re (rightfully) demanding…stability and development. Maybe having to wait until December to actually sign their NLI can help us, IF we win games!
FIGHT ON!!!✌️✌️✌️
Our pleasure!✌🏼❤️😎
Great episode
How does USC fans think about Riley when he said " I can not recruit to OK". But BV has out recruited him the last two years? When do you pull the plug on him? Riley is just Mike Leech but not funny. I think USC deserves better.
We have to win and play DEFENSE to get that elite talent we used to get period.
Great show
I really think that this was one of the most important conversations around Trojan football of this year so far. Losing Pettijohn by the width of a human hair to Ohio State proves that USC is extremely close to being able to win those recruiting battles for top 50 players. NIL wasn’t a factor in the decision this time-thankfully it is being handled well at USC now. Chris is right-USC needs to win games now. By doing so it will naturally start succeeding in recruiting the blue chip players. That LSU game is turning into a real monster for USC…winning it along with the game against Michigan in Ann Arbor will mean a great deal for this football team. Let’s see how things go!
Being happy just being included is now the USC standard smh oooooof
@@Sportsgeek1991 don’t confuse the standard with frustration and context, dear Lord stop trying to make shit up 😂
@@LockedOnUSC the standard has dropped to the point where some people are just happy with SC's hat being on the table.
@@Sportsgeek1991 then go make that comment to those people😂
@@LockedOnUSC I was , this was never directed to you.
I like Chris better when he is depressed and pissed off..lol
We just don’t have the credibility yet. We have an unproven defense. Our defensive coaching staff is top notch on paper. That is why this season is crucial. I think a valid concern is will these coaches be here going forward? Entz would like to be a head coach. Will Henderson go back to the NFL since he is not closing top prospects. These are all valid concerns.
If this is the case why are people going to lsu? They have a completely new defensive staff as well but they are signing guys. It's the money. They're willing to pay people and we're not.
@@thestorieshero ISU?
Wow, what a great podcast! You guys are dead on with your assessments. My question is, is Riley the right man for the job, or could Matt Entz the savior in waiting?
Really love to listen to our “smartie”.
This recruiting problem will all be over after this year with 10-2 record. ✌️
It's a new era , adapt or die. So tired of all the crying about Oregon & other schools playing the game now.
Riley took over a program that wasn't great. Needs work. Took Jim harbaugh years to fix Michigan. Riley will do it sooner. The defensive staff now is world class. Looking forward to this season
It’s not NIL it’s DEFENSE and WINNING this has happened before remember Oregon had a billboard for one of their Qb’s of the 10 fwy before the 110 Before Pete rolled in we have to WIN PERIOD !
If you were right then why are kids signing with LSU? they had a bad defensive unit too but somehow they are getting dudes. It's the bag.
@@thestorieshero They’ve been better than The Trojans over the last few years and that’s why they get a pass but even they lost recruits the past few weeks. Remember it took Carrol a minute to get his guys in place.
I keep trying to keep a positive attitude but USC is not serious about winning right now! The NIL department is a joke! We can't even recruit California. Idk
I think some of these kids are using USC to negotiate a better NIL deal. If it's about SC defense, why are all these schools with losing records getting top players
Does Chris had his own show?
Marc, who was that masked man by your side today? Face it gang, we are beating a dead horse. We are where we are until USC performs like a champion or championship caliber. Again, its hard to sell futures to a high school kid. Unfortunately, 'past experience is a good indicator of future performance.' Unfortunately that is what the others are telling the kids now. Hopefully Riley will be faster on the trigger in the future......As GNR says, "You and I'll just use a little patience.."
If Coach Heney can get the incoming freshman on the DL to shell out, it will be a good year. If not we will see another 7-5, maybe 6-6 season. As of now, SC just does not have enough on IDL.
They locked down Ceyair Wright, Domani Jackson, Kory Foreman and Malachi Nelson...How did that work out?? You get the best players you can, wherever they come from. USC is a national brand, nott Fresno St. If you can get good local kids, that's awesome.But you look everywhere for these kids.
And ps, start WINNING and stop making excuses for everything!! Win games and everything changes. Beat Ohio St or Oregon in the Big 10 championship game and you'll start getting recruits.. That's the bottom line.
WOW,....Arly is here again!
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I think we all need to channel Al Davis......."Just win, baby". Winning this year will solve everything. Kick ass and take names.
Morning Marc, I don't feel Coach Henny would be here just one year and be gone. Where would he go back to the NFL and if so why leave in the first place, I think if he telling a recruit to come to USC to be developed I don't think he is one and done.
What about Entz? It’s more in general than one specific coach.❤✌🏼
USC is not finishing second in the recruiting wars. Multiple people along multiple channels says nil stinks. Supposed to fix in next 2 week's we will see. It's a must to uplift the program. I think in 2024 SC will be good. Excellent roster and coaches. Going to beat LSU I don't see why not. Can win 10 game's this year. It's in the future need to get our act together. Program hasn't been good enough since Pete left
Chris, my man is dead on the head here on the problem at USC right on recruiting. Lincoln Riley i say did hold Grinch on to long but gave him the chance get it right. Firing coach to soon can send out the wrong message to the next hire. Yet the same time, love will hurt you, with a bad girlfriend. Lincoln Riley has learned and made some good changes. We have to be patient and that the wheels turn
I do think the GM role is important. I follow the SEC a bit and from what I hear the GM at Alabama is really helping Kalen Deboer put together a top notch recruiting class according to the Alabama content creators. It may not change everything but like hiring a new defensive staff, hiring a new GM will improve recruiting
USC goes 6-6, maybe 7-5 first year in B10. Losses to LSU, Michigan, Wisconsin, Penn State, Washington, and Notre Dame.
Yes Brent Venables and Bo Pelini was the Co-defensive coordinators in 2004. Brent Venables was the actual defensive coordinator starting in 2005. And we had a pretty good defense 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010. But he definitely did his best work at Clemson in my opinion. Honestly I think you guys were pretty fair when talking about Oklahoma. Brent Venables definitely has to prove that he can be an elite head coach. But in my opinion Lincoln Riley definitely wasn't either. He is a less funny version of Mike Leach. Only difference is Mike Leach had to coach at Texas Tech Washington State and Miss State. If he was fortunate enough to coach at a blue blood program like Oklahoma and USC..... Then I think Mike Leach would have won a few Heisman trophies also. Good video fellas👊 Marc and Chris are the best covering SC
Never take anything I say too seriously when it comes to talking smack. I respect the hell out of the Oklahoma program for its history. The Boz was one of my favorites to watch and I still remember Barry Switzer smoking heaters on the USC sideline back in the day! LOL
If there is a football God, USC and Oklahoma will be seeded against each other in the playoffs!
@@LockedOnUSC -
Good comment !!
@@LockedOnUSC that would be must see TV! My honest opinion? I think Oklahoma and USC are being disrespected and underestimated. LR will be a problem if he finally gets a good defense. I really like the new DC that he hired.
Guys it’s engagement on your videos! That’s a good thing. 🤦 😢
I said thanks!❤😂✌🏼
@@LockedOnUSC Maybe you need to have a sooner fan on the show sometime and give us a chance to give our perspective. At the end of the day we can all agree we love college football. Both fan bases have passionate fans. I enjoy learning about USC from you Marc. Originally I did come to troll but Marc you have grown on me. I watch with respect even if I do give my stinky Oklahoma opinion every now and again. I appreciate the content.
AT this POINT….. lets just focus and get ready for the season. Not a he players but US THE FANS. The self correction and improvement will be imminent. In fact there is a growing sentiment across the gollege football landscape that USC will bring the hammer down. Fight everyone!
I disagree about Riley bringing Alex over with him Marc. Chris is right. Riley had plenty of time to evaluate Grinch. Coming to USC Riley should have made a fresh start with a quality DC.
I can honestly say that I feel bad that SC lost out on getting Pettijohn, however, if I were in his shoes I cannot say that I would not have made that same decision.
Lots of "if's" being thrown around 🤔
Of course that's life not many sure thing's out there
yall keep talking about grinch when lincoln knew he was an issue, but kept him for multiple seasons. You have no one to blame but lincoln riley
Usc is not a risk with the coaching staff. The NFL and development is no longer an issue. Can’t make that argument. The thing is the long term nfl goal is absolutely on part with any top top ten program. The NIL is lacking. They want the now ANd then development for the future.
Ouch.
No it does not appear USC is recruiting staff is on the ball. Are you guys blind, deaf, or joking?!
USC is about 2 years out of being competitive in Big Ten will take their lumps this year for sure. But in 2 more years expect 10 plus wins I'd say.
Yep, here to mock. Teeheehee!!!! No doubt, Riley’s an offensive genius. That’s all. Hahahahaha!
The coaches and the play on the field will always dictate where top recruits want to sign and play. SC hasn’t won like during the Pete Carroll era yet. This year is pivotal in regaining trust in the program.
Coach Riley is fed up with the lack of NIL and administration to facilitate it. However, coach Riley refused to get out there in front of donors and alumni to rally them to donate. Anyway, Coach Riley is so frustrated and is considering all options. This is scary for usc!!
If you didn't see this coming you're clueless: Oregon hired
1. Dan Lanning as head coach : Former National recruiter of the year
2. Tosh Lupoi: DL/LB former National recruiter of the year
3. Adrian Klemm : OL former top 10 recruiter of the year.
4. Demerits Martin DB/S former top 10 recruiter of the year.
5. Oregon kept 3 of their top recruiters.
Klemm and Martin have since left but they were replaced with great recruiters. USC lost the arms race right off the bat. This is not all NIL. Who decision is it to not market better? OREGON has flat out done a better job prioritizing recuiting So Cal.
They paid Evan Stewart $1 million for one year to transfer. They paid that defensive tackle from Michigan State close to $2 million for one year.
And I haven’t even touched on the high school players yet. 
I can be recruiter of the year when I get to write checks like that 😂
Not even so sure USC is actually ascending with the Program. Let's wait and see, New Conference, New Quarterback, New Defense, one of the toughest Schedules in the Country, we know nothing about this program until LSU!! Probably not a good idea to make predictions on any of these issues I mentioned! We do know this, Oregon is kicking our ASS in Recruiting, and that's a hard pill!!
Will the neglect of California recruits be seen as a strategic error when viewed in the rearview mirror, I suspect so! At approximately $11mill/yr our coach should not be 'learning on the job' and Chris highlighted my second thought when Riley was announced +2 years ago, finally a real hire after a decade plus but what about defense? The D staff has been inspired, what about Special teams (also awful the last 2 years) and NIL is still not completely fixed. Huge fan (obviously watching here and commenting), followed the team when I lived overseas via VHS tapes and ESPN America but I am getting weary from the litany of self-inflicted wounds the last 15 years. Winning will solve a lot of these issues
I Blame Carol Folt 😂😂😂😂
✌The stench from Helton and Grinch is still lingering. Only winning will fix this. The Pettijohns did what they felt was best for their son's future. Hopefully, USC wins enough games this season to flip some of these recruits.
What are you going to say if USC loses to LSU and Michigan? What will the USC fans and Alumni have to say? What will the sports media have to say? I know what I will say, “USC is not an elite program in 2024”.
Not going to loose to LSU I think for 24 USC is a bet team. Michigan we will see. I expect SC to be really good this season. Better fix Nil going forward though
Then SC is exactly what they've been the last 15 years.
How is it that clay Helton was able to get kids to come to USC but Riley can't?
That's the problem, did get their but never developed anything to the point, it ruined it for Riley. Remember Riley was recruiting well in California from Oklahoma. Yet when he came to USC, it didn't matter the connection from Oklahoma. He was now at USC and Clay Helton kill our recruiting at USC with everyone and California. Lincoln Riley working hard to change that look. Like I said Lincoln done well recruiting California from Oklahoma, but at USC , it's like he hit a black cat
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You are bringing up a point that EVERYONE seems afraid to address. Ironic as it may seem, the Oklahoma football tradition is actually stronger than USC’s (in this 2020s era) which allowed Riley to have stronger recruiting classes at OU. Additionally, 70% of Riley’s OU players were already loaded in the Bob Stoops era recruiting pipeline when he took over. Mark and Chris need to recognize and acknowledge this.
I don't Lincoln Riley can pull this out. How long it's been since we have had serious contention? 20 years....Let the season unfold and see what happens.
@reddfoxx91 A grown man’s vocabulary should know the difference between son and sun 😂😂😂
Didn’t Riley say a national championship would be won immediately by usc?
No
Opportunity missed to use Albert Brooks' line from 'Lost in America': "Everyone keeps telling me I'm the best man for the job. I am the best man. Phil Shibano is groom!" USC is the best man for you. OREGON'S the groom.
If riley only loses 3 games next year and we are competative in every game, I’m good. , and he gets another 2 years. Same if he is 1-2 fist 3 games.
Vegas set USC at 7.5 so 8-4 or better is a win in my opinion.
Phuck The Naysayers, Fight On ✌️💯........
The Oregon situation is all about nil, or at least mostly.m
Cry on 😂. It isn’t only NIL bozo.
@@SuperJuggerNog Tbh me being an Oregon fan. I do believe Oregons NIL is a bit more attractive than most. Oregons got some money. But I think these guys underestimate Oregons recruiters. The recruits always talk about how Oregon is relationship first and how family-oriented they are.
Also Oregon doesn’t even hand bags out like you think. Oregon isn’t even in the top 10 in handing out nil money. For example Texas actually had a bigger offer for Dakorien Moore than Oregon did. He chose Oregon. Oregons just got good recruiters and sell their program really good.
@@timothydesanto5822 I’m an Oregon fan and alumnus, and it’s just funny to hear people blame it on money, and that it’s just money. Like they can’t fathom a kid enjoying Oregon 😭
Oregon is a problem for everyone in the Big 10. USC can keep blaming NIL but NIL wasn't a problem when USC got great QBs WRs and RBs? Oregon is kickin USC's ass because they have a much better program right now and great recruiters. And it's the same at Ohio State. USC isn't on their level. This is a no brainer for these highly recruited defensive players. USC is offering money just like the other schools... Problem is that the other schools are offering money and they are better programs
Good show boys , Marc and Chris .
So let’s recap reality as we know it .
SC has made such bad decisions for over a decade as it pertains to their football program. All the way from terrible ADs and coaches .
So they finally make a decision to put the program back to prominence. They hire Riley , invest in new facilities. Riley gets lucky in year one with transfer portal players . But unfortunately he keeps Grinch even though he screwed the program with their three losses . Then as we know what happened last year . So we finally get rid of Grinch hire the best defensive coaches . The coaches are doing a fantastic job in recruiting. But because of last season and a deficient NIL program we seem to not be able to keep the elite recruits . So where does this leave the program-
A slower than expected rebuild. Where we can hope to keep the coaches in tact to show the needed improvement on the field . Meaning we need to go at least 9 and 3 next year , showing improvement and being tough . If we do we can continue to improve our recruiting. This though is dependent on a up to state of the upper tier schools NIL program. We can have the other ingredients in place but until we can win consistently our NIIL
unfortunately has to make up the difference.
This dude is now comparing bowls games....
I have to demur - Oregon is beating uscs pants off in recruiting and while they’ve had a good 5 year run, they aren’t winning natties or making any noise in playoffs. We need a great staff AND a great NIL. At least until we start winning again, and we aren’t going to win at level we need to recruit 5 stars UNLESS we have 5 star talent. What is really gonna o screw Riley this year is the simultaneous move to big ten, tougher schedule, more travel at some time he is rebuilding the defense. For the next two years, uscs nil offers must be BETTER than Ohio state. 3-0? What happens if usc is 0-3 or even 1-2? That’s more likely than 3-0.
Come on, out of 1 side of your mouth you say that Riley and Grinch sabotaged USC defensive development and that takes time to overcome while out of the other side of your mouth you expect BV to get the same problem created by the same people corrected in 2 years. That's not even analysis. That's a self serving hater POV which is what you accuse them of being.
When it comes to DEFENSE-----I would hope that Brent is ahead of the curve since that is HIS specialty.
Make sense now?
Any coach has to have players. OU had none. A secondary full of undersized corners and slow safeties. Ranked in the 100's in total defense, next to the last in pass defense, not the conference - the whole damn country. That's what he left us. I've liked USC since I was a kid. Less now because I can't stand Riley. That was my POV 2 years before he left. The games became more unwatchable every season. At least he finally fired Grinch. It starts there. Good luck.
I like your show. we are the same age so I relate in may ways than one, but you have often complained about USC not spending NIL money. You were head od the class is saying we are not spending enough money.
Now you're trying to calm the masses? Lol
Its just hilarious how these guys come up with excuse after excuse for the last 4 years at least for SC failures. Oregon has had Chip Kelly, Helfrich, Taggart, Cristobal, McClendon and now Lanning. All these different head coaches changes in the last 10 years and in those 10 years, the only years they dropped off were 2017-2018 were they went 4-8 and 7-6. Blue blood programs don't take 20 years to get their "act together". What we are seeing is that SC was good because they were cheating and buying their championships by paying players to play for them and go to the school from the 1970 until they got caught and placed on probation. You also have scandal after scandal hit the university and law suit after law suit due to parents buying scholarship for their children and OBGYN sexually assaulting patients. They have to pay out billions in law suits and these guys are worry about NIL money. The schools is a mess, they are a dumpster fire.
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Nailed it!
Cry On.
@@sonofrobert As a duck I love this Oregon channel.
We will see if we have a championship coach....if riley has any pride as a man and a backbone after all of these self inflicted slights and insults....he will run these bastards....we will see.... 10- 2...11-1.....if not he will be gone of his own accord.....
Holy cow. It gets worse the more he talks
8:03 what happens if we go 0-3??? Marc NEVER discusses the more likely scenarios. He is such a bootlicker its disgusting. Never has the balls to criticize our program and tell it how it really is. He is so deluted
No 0-3 in the cards, might lose to Cheating-gan but that's it early on.
So, Marc, since we love to reference the past even more than objectively, look at the now and future. You mean with all the USC branding, all the Heisman winners, 8 i believe, you keep reminding us, all the NFL talent, all the Hollywood appeal, USC isn't tops in the NIL bank roll? What does that say about the program if all of the famed history isn't willing to help the now? Even now we would refernece Grinch vs making the drastic changes now to fix the problem. Hire the staff over invest in kids, market tour butt off and get in the game. YOU WONT HAVE YEARS TO PUT THINGS BACK TOGETHER. Winning a few games is not the answer. 3-0 that's fine, 5-0 gets people talking about sustainability in winning. Shooting flips is a terrible strategy, especially for a "blu blood".
These 2 sound like a GF after she gets dumped. Recruits have so many options nowadays and SC doesn't have much to offer other than good weather and a great QB developer.
Wow. I'm blown away how dumb these takes were
The staff is there the Nil is trash
I think Trojan Blade is onto something though 🤔
Blade can speak freely because he doesn't need to worry about losing credentials.
@@Sportsgeek1991 facts!!! 💯🎯
@@Sportsgeek1991 he doesn’t have to worry about losing them because he was turned down.
And try and remember that there are other entities out there looking out for their own self-serving interests. I know that might be a little difficult for you to connect the dots. 
Just because another NIL is mad about the failings of another NIL or the U, doesn’t mean its not true. There obvious issues and it needs to be exposed or nothing will change.
If we start 3-0 what will the narrative be? Nothing of note, we started 6-0 last year and we got thrashed the rest of the year. You don’t judge after 3 games 😂 only when we finish with 4 losses at the end of the year can we start criticizing this staff and program. And when we lose our non new year’s day bowl game, bring out the pitchforks 🍴
LR philosophy of taking out of staters before Cali kids is a worse decision than not firing Grinch. We lose our stranglehold on our core base to a rival in Oregon which will be felt for seasons to come. We are sinking in quicksand and I don’t see us recovering enough to even sniff a playoff birth in the next few years 🙅🏽
You’re listening comprehension levels are really really bad. I’m not trying to be mean however you just don’t understand context --go back and listen again. 
And just to prove you don’t understand context do you know who USC plays in their first three games this season compared to last season? Maybe that’ll help you!!
8:00 mark you state clearly what happens if SC starts 3-0, how quickly does the narrative change? No context needed, a straightforward question was asked and I respond by saying you don’t judge a season after 3 games because you have a whole season to play out. Maybe you should listen again and your retention of your words is misremembered 🤔 Come back, i’ll wait and we can discuss ⏳
@@bolotriolo but what you fail to comprehend was my question was to Chris in response to recruiting and how the recruits perceive USC playing defense and that’s part of what is holding them back from getting guys like Riley Pettijohn.
I stand by my previous response to you, not trying to be mean, but I’m tired of leading people to water. I can’t make your drink.
I understand it was in reference towards our awful defense but my point is that narrative won’t change after a handful of games, it’s the whole season that will determine how are future recruiting will pan out. To think if we beat Michigan that’s gonna put us over the top is 🤨 when we have a whole season to play.
the Grinch angle is played out way too much. yes he was bad, a top 3 goof decision by LR but he’s gone and we have a new staff in place, yet we are where we are. You’d think players would jump at the chance to play early on a bad D but maybe it’s they don’t believe in the whole team and staff.
@@bolotriolo I think you'd be surprised at how quickly the perception of the program can change.
I know you'll watch tomorrow's episode(THANKS!!)---I go into a little more detail on this topic and I think for the most part you and I agree.
Thanks for the discussion!
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SO TIRED of hearing the Grinch name!!! MOVE ON!!!
People need someone to blame.
27:34 "Oregon is money, marketing and a good recruiting coaching staff". Lanning has a championship rings. Riley has watched the championship on TV. Oregon has been winning and beating USC on the field for the last two decades. Way before Lanning or Mario. The truth is, SC although they have averaged top ten recruiting classes for the last 20 years, has been losing on the field and Oregon, with less talent has been beating them. Riley has not accomplished more than Lanning and all the excuses in the world and well wishing will not bring the SC of the 1970s back. If SC is a blue blood than Princeton, Yale, Harvard and Minnesota are more so since they hold as many or more football chips than USC. They are not any more and neither is SC.
USC is never going to make it back to prominence. We are just a clown show at this point 😢
@michaelelliott9021.......never.....?
@@musingsofawokehebrew3356 Never! Rich folks who don’t donate to the program and eroding relationships with local high schools. Never! Oregon is in the spot USC should be in.
@michaelelliott9021 I'm not happy with USC nor do I believe that riley is that guy....but I presume that you are a grown man yet ....NEVER....that's ridiculous
Every major program buys players, even uga does it.
@kelseydickey7123 even uga ? ? ?.....in the sec that is a feature for the last 20 years ... only now it is legal.....
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Did you watch the defense last year? Do you even know anything about football? You just lost so much credibility...
@xxicemanxx11 -
Sound sound young - obviously don’t know college football.
Oregon is going 💩 on SC for the foreseeable future. Beating you in recruiting (especially your own state) whooping that ass on the field. Your glory days are over and will NEVER comeback. Sco Ducks.
Like the fall of the Roman Empire..lol
Cry On
SC football is dog water.
You Guys are fooling yourselves ! Not trying to troll here but you will find out that "Alex Grinch" was a "YES MAN" to lincoln Riley this is why he kept him inspite of his Gross Defensive Philsophy .. The problem is that the USC roster is full of players that are physically week and incompetent on Defense Oklahoma has been waiting patiently for the lincoln Riley /Grinch recruited players to leave because every single one of them just arent good players Lincoln Rileys Strength and Fitness program is an absolute joke with Benny Wiley !! Im Quoting players from OU Asked to Compare the new strength and Conditioning Today Compared to Benny Wiley..." What we did under coach Benny was like Jazzersize !! The Defensive Disease that Lincoln Riley brings to and infects a program is because of his policies,and he is the boss ! When you are confused this year after the INEPT defensive play by USC this year just Remember this Comment. Brent Venables has Coached Defense in 8 National Championship Games and was voted the Number one Defesive coordinator in the Nation at OU he has Struggled with the players that were left over from Lincoln Riley....If you dont have the players you wont get the results !
@ou7nats21 -
Hardcore Sooner fan here since the 1978 Heisman season of Billy Simms. Your comment is simply not correct. I am no fan of Alex Grinch (no one really is); however, a number of Stoops recruits/pipeline defensive players who played under Riley were drafted in the NFL. Secondly, Brent Venables turned the OU defense around immediately in the first year. OU’s real problem on defense the last two (2) years has been depth - which goes away starting with this upcoming 2024 season.