Shooting a .06 ISO/ASA Film

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
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Комментарии • 367

  • @WillemVerb
    @WillemVerb 4 года назад +850

    brb moving to california for that light wow

    • @theonlinelime1992
      @theonlinelime1992 4 года назад +2

      Honestly same... if I could that is lmao

    • @maxwellwellmax878
      @maxwellwellmax878 4 года назад +3

      the Afternoon light has been pretty interesting as of late, I dont remember it being this way years past.

    • @alexandermeisel4585
      @alexandermeisel4585 4 года назад +6

      I just waited for the day willem verbeek discovers this treasure of a youtube account.

    • @loydryot1921
      @loydryot1921 4 года назад

      Can I get my hopes up that one day the opportunity arises that you and grainydays get together for some collab, a PhotoTalks episode maybe?

    • @AnalogProcess
      @AnalogProcess 4 года назад

      Right? North East has such bad light in comparison...

  • @stinkybritches4540
    @stinkybritches4540 4 года назад +203

    That film is orthochromatic. It’s sensitivity lies mostly in the UV and blue end of the light spectrum. So, it behaves very similar to X-ray film, paper negatives and wet plate. Meters are useless from my experience.
    Also, ortho films are gonna have a slightly different/varied iso depending on the time of day or time of year it is shot.... all due to to the amount of UV and blue light available.

    • @arkandajic3618
      @arkandajic3618 2 года назад +5

      Hello Mr Stinky, I just found 19 rolls of this film and I'm trying to meter my exposure

  • @petersom6814
    @petersom6814 4 года назад +305

    That “17 is basically 20.” Joke was slick.

  • @mattdayphoto
    @mattdayphoto 4 года назад +308

    1:25 Damn, Caleb like L O V E S film.

    • @grainydaysss
      @grainydaysss  4 года назад +59

      Yea he's very "enthusiastic" about it

    • @ddgarage7025
      @ddgarage7025 4 года назад +1

      I need that spool winder in my life, what is it?

    • @michapurzynski8509
      @michapurzynski8509 4 года назад +3

      @@ddgarage7025 looks like this one? martinbaileyphotography.com/2019/10/31/the-lab-box-daylight-loading-film-tank-podcast-682/
      didn't @Matt Day review something similar one day?

    • @atlasbesikniyo8753
      @atlasbesikniyo8753 4 года назад +2

      I think that's a Lab Box.

    • @AeromaticXD
      @AeromaticXD 4 года назад

      I mean, unlike a partner - or if you suck at photography -, film will never let you down!

  • @alexandermeisel4585
    @alexandermeisel4585 4 года назад +135

    Finally. I’ll be watching this on 3 monitors simultaneously.

    • @grainydaysss
      @grainydaysss  4 года назад +20

      How it was meant to be watched :)

  • @bosz112
    @bosz112 4 года назад +73

    Slow speed films tend to lose their sensitivity slower than film with higher ISO. That's why the rule 1EV + for every 10 years doesn't work with films slower than 25 ISO. Your 0,06 asa film was as sensitive as in the day when it was produced, and probably would be for next 100 years ;)

  • @SuperEmanuel98
    @SuperEmanuel98 4 года назад +187

    Theories of why is what blown out:
    1. The film is most sensitive to parts of the electromagnetic spectrum that your light meter is not tuned for sensing
    2. The 10 years rule only work for negative film

    • @filminrussia7095
      @filminrussia7095 4 года назад +1

      what's the rule for slides?

    • @Humungojerry
      @Humungojerry 4 года назад +5

      Hujinn - Instagram “don’t bother”

    • @dsmandras
      @dsmandras 3 года назад +1

      @@coreyhodgson1238 what if its 40-ish year old Ektachrome 400?

    • @dsmandras
      @dsmandras 3 года назад

      @@abyad000 oh sick! I found out my film has been refrigerated since new, so I might try to go for 400, or 200. I have two rolls of it, so I can definitely experiment with it a little.

    • @jacopoabbruscato9271
      @jacopoabbruscato9271 2 года назад

      @@filminrussia7095 No rules for slides, if they're expired just shoot at box speed and hope for the best. They don't hold up as well as negatives do, so it all depends on storage and blind luck.

  • @jeroexx
    @jeroexx 4 года назад +2

    It's always a good thing to look through the viewfinder with a telephoto Lens.... Directly into the sun...

  • @tallegoossens3234
    @tallegoossens3234 4 года назад +138

    Me, a procrastinator who has a test tomorrow, has to read an whole book and has to finish a paper:
    Also me when grainydays uploads: *drops everything to watch*

    • @thebeastios
      @thebeastios 4 года назад +2

      That is exactly me right now with a paper and book to read tonight.

    • @v-g-z3689
      @v-g-z3689 4 года назад +1

      OH MY GOD I am in the EXACT same situation at this very moment!!!

    • @0xVox
      @0xVox 4 года назад +1

      Me exactly

    • @v-g-z3689
      @v-g-z3689 4 года назад +2

      @pprc crzo Don´t ask...

    • @tallegoossens3234
      @tallegoossens3234 4 года назад +2

      @pprc crzo it was about what you'd expect from a test you've barely studied for, but i guess it was fine

  • @briansavage932
    @briansavage932 4 года назад +55

    Fantastic!
    I too was a disappointment. But look at me now, watching videos on RUclips, in the middle of a workday, of some other dude failing.
    #movinonup

  • @JonnyRobbie
    @JonnyRobbie 4 года назад +53

    My theory is that the 1 stop per decade works for negative film, where you need to add a bit of oomph to get denser darker negative for those highlights with film that is not that potent anymore. But since this is a positive film, the rule goes out of the window. If anything, I'd guess its the other way. Look at the photos that did turn out and see if they have in common - for example that the lightmeter might go completely bonkers there. Like shots straight against a sun might make lightmeter go completely dark, which might actually help you.

    • @kidthorazine
      @kidthorazine 4 года назад +3

      Yeah, and reversal film in general has extremely low tolerances for being over/under exposed, so even if the calculation is only off by 1 stop it can totally ruin the shot..

    • @janvalis727
      @janvalis727 4 года назад

      Also he exposed with a spotmeter, which shows how to expose so the object turns out middle grey (or how does it compare to middle grey), but in a sunset like that almost nothing is middle grey. The sand should sit around 2-3 stops under middle grey, while the sky would by 3 to 7 stops overexposed... So also a miscalculation during exposing might result in some troubles, combined with flaring of the cheap lens that is in spotmeters. Also the "dynamic range" of a reversal film is 5 stops, so it is not ideal for shooting straight at sunset.

  • @mr.wolfwood138
    @mr.wolfwood138 4 года назад +20

    The chanel has grainy in the name but shot at .06 asa ,this mad world

  • @dylangergutierrez
    @dylangergutierrez 4 года назад +5

    From the research I've done, the "1 stop every 10 years" rule is for C41, and BW negative is generally "1 stop every 20 years". However, this is slide film, and the rule for that is to shoot at box, bracket, and hope for the best.

  • @PiotrekGrzesiak
    @PiotrekGrzesiak 4 года назад +33

    >that sh*t ain't around anymore.
    gotta love that line. one of the best in the business i've ever heard. #painfullyslow team as well.

  • @tomdivasion7724
    @tomdivasion7724 4 года назад +72

    That ISO is as dark as my soul...almost

    • @mariuskaupas
      @mariuskaupas 4 года назад +6

      You sound like your just carrying a Leica as a necklace

    • @tomdivasion7724
      @tomdivasion7724 4 года назад +3

      You know me too well.

  • @KaiisChannel
    @KaiisChannel 4 года назад +5

    the waves look amazing with this super longe exposure!

  • @rick-deckard
    @rick-deckard 4 года назад +2

    Other than losing many exposures, I think the ones that came out are exactly the kind of thing to celebrate with fun and quirky, unpredictable experiments like this. I don't see why anyone should be bummed out about it. Good job.

  • @KelsomaticPDX
    @KelsomaticPDX 4 года назад +3

    I'm so happy when I see one of your videos pop into my feed. The shots that turned out are so otherworldly.

  • @flannelcommander
    @flannelcommander 4 года назад +18

    1:26 is me when someone walks in on me in the bathroom

  • @6WeeksTV
    @6WeeksTV 4 года назад +12

    from my knowledge positive film should not be overexposed at all even if it's been expired for 10+ years. maybe 3/4s of a stop max

  • @MadisonBeach
    @MadisonBeach 4 года назад +8

    Ive just shot some Svema Mz3 with an ISO of 3 but again the metering for that was all over the place and my lab refused to process it as its a hand-rolled film. Sometimes Portra is just fine..

    • @O4KAST
      @O4KAST 4 года назад +2

      It's black and white, right? You can just develop it yourself, get a soviet developing tank and d-76 developer. I don't know about you, but back in Russia or Ukraine where this film originates, this combo will cost you like 5$.

    • @NOCTURNALCURVES
      @NOCTURNALCURVES 3 года назад

      I love that film. When it works. Which is not very often. But it can be super pretty! I have a couple great shots with it on my Instagram (lumennovis) but I knew even less about film then and haven't been able to repeat those results.

  • @staticsequences7659
    @staticsequences7659 4 года назад +11

    Ahhhh now i understand that insta story now. Y'know the one where you were at the beach and you looked totally defeated, yeah that one

  • @radicaleyemag
    @radicaleyemag 4 года назад +17

    1:24 me when the new video drops

  • @toomanyjstoomanyrs1705
    @toomanyjstoomanyrs1705 4 года назад

    Yes, Inglewood has great beaches, and those sunsets are stunning.

  • @SpiderXweaponX
    @SpiderXweaponX 4 года назад +16

    I was told there wouldn't be any math involved.

  • @jimzielinski946
    @jimzielinski946 4 года назад +2

    This video really brought back memories of the day's I shot b&w film, especially when you mentioned test strips! Oh, the uncertainty! I feel a little bit guilty I don't use my film cameras anymore, but digital , with it's histograms, Polaroid like instant playback, and instant gratification is so easy. I think the guilt comes from knowing there is still some indescribable quality you get from film and especially when printed the old fashioned way on silver based paper. I'm glad I stumbled onto your channel.

  • @Crokto
    @Crokto 2 года назад

    thought id gotten used to your humor but the brutally slow joke got me

  • @insanejughead
    @insanejughead 4 года назад +5

    Theory: everybody on the internet is wrong about how to shoot and expose for expired film.
    Practice: every 6-8 shots, adjust your settings to be darker/lighter than the last ones so that the shots were documented and scrutinized before shooting with roll #2.

    • @Asmoc23
      @Asmoc23 4 года назад

      so what if you have only 1 roll? you shoot it all for one picture? :)

  • @bogdandumitrescu4765
    @bogdandumitrescu4765 4 года назад +4

    if you're looking for slow films that you can get new, washi A is the slowest one that i know of and is relatively common (ISO 12). alternatively, Fuji IT-N has ISO 6 but it's harder to find (but it's colour). Svema Mz3 is bw and has ISO 3 but it is also quite rare

  • @AnthonySchnitzel
    @AnthonySchnitzel 4 года назад +2

    I have a couple of this laying around. Their only usefulness is to test if a camera properly advance and rewind film ...

  • @RyanBounedara
    @RyanBounedara 4 года назад

    I'm a simple man. I see grainydays, I thumbs up.

  • @josephstitt137
    @josephstitt137 4 года назад +2

    I’ve never shot expired B&W positive, but I have shot expired color positive (30 year old Ektachrome) and I shot it at box. The pictures came out fine. I think positive film has significantly less latitude than negative film, hence why I shoot expired positive film at box.

  • @goff1491
    @goff1491 4 года назад

    that black AE-1 body is niiiice

  • @SamMcGhee
    @SamMcGhee 4 года назад

    So strange and so rad. It’s like pinhole but with a ton of ridiculous mysterious math. So great to virtually go on this shoot with you.

  • @wolfgartom
    @wolfgartom 3 года назад

    I really dig the sunset stuff, super cool

  • @aloneinjpn
    @aloneinjpn 4 года назад +1

    “I am, Jackie Legs and I’d like to say HELLO!” Man I love Kangaroo Jack 😂

  • @Norri3l_
    @Norri3l_ 4 года назад

    Bro you are the funniest film photographer out here doing this shit and you cold with that shoota 🖼📸🥶

  • @YourFriendWithACamera
    @YourFriendWithACamera 4 года назад +1

    Really well made video Jason, you do an excellent job of explaining things.

  • @FX-qe5ee
    @FX-qe5ee Год назад

    Very interesting film. In the past I experimented with great sharp results with technical pan from Kodak, on 35 mm.

  • @maksymilianreiter3111
    @maksymilianreiter3111 4 года назад

    such a beautiful sky this evening...

  • @BuzzLiteBeer
    @BuzzLiteBeer 4 года назад

    This channel is what the internet needs. 1 Cup Film-Photography + 1 Tbsp Self-Loathing.

  • @alexiscosar8980
    @alexiscosar8980 4 года назад +1

    Well, turns out the video still is super cool so... nailed it !
    Could you now elaborate on why you’re using a winder ... that you don’t actually use ?
    And those freakin Super Taks on a Canon body ! You’re such a rebel !

  • @QuestionableApe
    @QuestionableApe 4 года назад

    Guess I'm gonna watch this over and over again until the next one comes out

  • @alwinbenjamin
    @alwinbenjamin Месяц назад

    Wow, King. 🔥

  • @BiscuitLazers44
    @BiscuitLazers44 3 года назад

    the one of the gas station is fantastic

  • @d.c.sheets2592
    @d.c.sheets2592 4 года назад

    The commentary is priceless! Keep up the great content.

  • @jasper2771
    @jasper2771 2 года назад

    The music was so good

  • @IlBella_
    @IlBella_ 4 года назад

    Finally that time of the week, grainydays video! Thank you man!

  • @ili5615
    @ili5615 4 года назад +1

    Tip for next time shooting ultra-low ISO film: if your light meter app is the same as mine (and so it looks based on the UI) you can add custom values of aperture, shutter speed and ISO in the app

  • @kylekrulikowski2588
    @kylekrulikowski2588 4 года назад +2

    *We got a really colorful sunset that evening, which was perfect, because I was shooting black and white*
    5:15 was sick

  • @kamaltung3117
    @kamaltung3117 4 года назад

    hilarious commentary and the photos that turned out looked pretty artistic

  • @88cheddar
    @88cheddar 4 года назад +3

    Thanks for saying Technologist instead of technition. Cool episode.

  • @samhardy2038
    @samhardy2038 4 года назад

    Just the facts sir
    Just the facts.

  • @lifeonfilm7227
    @lifeonfilm7227 4 года назад

    Monochromatic sunsets are the best! 😁

  • @nikolajkledzik502
    @nikolajkledzik502 4 года назад

    Thanks for a great episode!! Again.
    I think the answer is in the instruction sheet for the RPCF film:
    Exposure: 0.06 with the fluorescent light commonly found in x-ray view boxes.
    Copying Radiographs and Similar Transparencies: Exposure times for “average” radiographs are 12 to 20 seconds at f/4 with a conventional x-ray view box.
    It is just not meant to be used in direct sunlight which is much harsher than the light from a light box. Also, and maybe most important: 'Processed Rapid Process Copy Film contains a metallic silver image which is a more efficient absorber of infrared radiation than the dyes contained in color film emulsions.' - Sunlight contains loads of infrared light. Which might also explain why your sunset shots came out ok...less light and less radiation...
    Love your channel. /N

  • @ChristopherFriedrichs
    @ChristopherFriedrichs 4 года назад

    i like the 10h 4min shutter

  • @Ferrari360Spyder
    @Ferrari360Spyder 4 года назад

    I laughed so hard at the necessary chemicals "grabs 6 pack" LOL.

  • @Keoz199
    @Keoz199 4 года назад

    That Arca Swiss tripod head 👌

  • @AnalogProcess
    @AnalogProcess 4 года назад

    Wild! I think I have some of that film too... just sitting in my fridge.

  • @sasiadStudios
    @sasiadStudios 4 года назад

    The answer why that film looks underexposed could be reciprocity, which means that when you shoot at long exposure times, you require more exposure, than lightmeter tell you.
    That effect could be different for every specific film, but there should be some information about that in specification.

    • @Dahrenhorst
      @Dahrenhorst 4 года назад +1

      It's called Schwarzschild-effect after the German astronomer and physicist Karl Schwarzschild (1873-1916), who discovered this behavior of chemically processed film or paper. Any exposure longer than approx. 1 sec can not be calculated linear, but need progressivly larger exposions.

  • @OriAlSirr
    @OriAlSirr 4 года назад

    Love the sense of humor 👍🏼

  • @StephenMilner
    @StephenMilner 4 года назад

    Hi, what a magnificent video. Keep up the amazing work! I look forward to your next video.

  • @theanaloguecorner1119
    @theanaloguecorner1119 4 года назад

    Super video! This film seems so cool!
    I really like the result!

  • @caiodlimaM
    @caiodlimaM 4 года назад +1

    2:57 genious!

  • @dflf
    @dflf 3 года назад

    Years ago I shot a roll of Kodalith B&W film. It had an asa of 6.

  • @mikeschaid959
    @mikeschaid959 4 года назад

    Your ending earned a subscribe

  • @tomasz_gajda
    @tomasz_gajda 4 года назад +2

    ISO is exponential isn't it? In this case, working with such low ISO, a small error on the light meter could yield a big exposure difference.

  • @Combine_Harvester_of_Truth
    @Combine_Harvester_of_Truth 4 года назад

    I really like the results from that film!

  • @Sondercreative
    @Sondercreative 4 года назад

    Arca Cube be looking Mhhightyyyy fineeee :)

  • @ferencbodor
    @ferencbodor 4 года назад

    Nooo, pls don’t delete it! you always look cute

  • @helxis
    @helxis 4 года назад +4

    When dealing with so many unknown variables, bracket some shots.

  • @kerbosee
    @kerbosee 4 года назад

    I'm trying to watch this at work and I cackled out loud when you said "This film as well as myself has been described as 'brutally slow'". Fuck, man. hahahaha

  • @KodakBoy
    @KodakBoy 4 года назад +4

    Nice and I thought shooting iso 6 film was bad lol
    Interestingly enough that film was also a blue slide film
    I do have a mysterious roll of iso 1 film I plan on shooting

    • @KodakBoy
      @KodakBoy 4 года назад

      I shot the iso 1 film
      And guess what....
      it’s blue

  • @tedsmith_photography
    @tedsmith_photography 4 года назад

    You still the funniest guy on RUclips man! Great delivery as ever. But yeah, that film sucks for photography. Thanks for the lessons...

  • @samvholt
    @samvholt 4 года назад

    Quality video man 👌

  • @davidb2992
    @davidb2992 4 года назад +1

    I also guess that the 1 stop every 10 years - rule does become more relevant with higher iso films cause of activating chemicals that degenerate over time. but in this ISO-range you may have little to no of those chemicals. so it gets older way more slowly.

  • @Alex.0470
    @Alex.0470 4 года назад

    36k subscribers and 36k views you sir are indeed good with math! (That’s not math) (but you know what I mean.)

  • @JC-mu7ju
    @JC-mu7ju 4 года назад +16

    What tripod you use?

    • @jarenneo1691
      @jarenneo1691 4 года назад +2

      jason pls bless us with answer

    • @monumentalvibes849
      @monumentalvibes849 4 года назад

      Looks to be the
      Arca-Swiss C1 Cube Geared Head

    • @Leivath
      @Leivath 4 года назад

      Just a $1,572.00 Tripod. And I fill my backpack with sand. Smh.

    • @jarenneo1691
      @jarenneo1691 4 года назад +1

      @@Leivath holy. thats about the price of one kidney. i guess i can afford one

    • @Leivath
      @Leivath 4 года назад +1

      Jaren Neo Sure, you will be able to live with just one kidney but hey, one cube tripod.

  • @TheSaladTozzer
    @TheSaladTozzer 4 года назад

    I've used this film. Another good way to develop it is D-76 at 1:1 for 5 minutes

  • @michaelnguyen8782
    @michaelnguyen8782 4 года назад

    love sous vide film

  • @RadiRenggli
    @RadiRenggli 4 года назад

    I got a roll of 1979 expired M3 100 ISO film form Italy back from the lab. The result was quite interesting. Though super grainy. The first roll I got was a total fail, this was my second roll. I still got one roll left, this roll is at 80 ISO.

  • @asub3292
    @asub3292 3 года назад

    I know I am a year late to this, but ...
    Going from 0.02 to 1.00 is increasing the light 1/0.02 = 50 times. So you need your aperture to let in 1/50th of the light it normally would. Now the hard part of aperture is that its area, so going from f/4 to f/8 is actually (4/8)^2 = 1/4th of the light. We can use this backwards to see what aperture you needed, since you started with f/2 and need 1/50th it should be (2/x)^2 = 1/50 which, solving for x gives us f/14 not f/29 as you used. By going for f/29 you added back in 210 times as much light back in, instead of 50 times.

  • @tuchenciotuch3976
    @tuchenciotuch3976 4 года назад

    I love bad flashes and Caleb :)

  • @bugleon
    @bugleon 4 года назад

    Great video as always man 🙌👍

  • @HerbTheriault
    @HerbTheriault 4 года назад

    For clues as to where things went wrong, have a look at the edge code on the film (assuming there is any on this stock). If the edge code can be read, the processing was ok, and you over exposed. If it's washed out, or gone, there was a problem in development. Using a developer other than what was intended can have a negative effect as well.

  • @jorgepeterbarton
    @jorgepeterbarton 4 года назад

    I've got some slide copy film. I think it's more like 12iso but nothing written on it about speed. Different name. It's also from the year I was born, have shot some--interesting colours. Contrast good, did night shots and even those were blue-green

  • @1SONICYOUTH
    @1SONICYOUTH 4 года назад

    You should look into shooting with a Nikon f3, in my opinion it makes for a much better expletive when compared to a Cannon AE1.

  • @Bobby_sprinkles
    @Bobby_sprinkles 4 года назад

    Some of those came out super neat though!

  • @eeli808
    @eeli808 4 года назад

    Need a beast of a tripod for a beast of a camera! As always nice video!

  • @EdmundKBoateng
    @EdmundKBoateng 4 года назад +1

    I’m I the only one watching this and feel like I’m in a physics class? I will either have to rewatch or start taking notes

  • @MetalSlugzMaster
    @MetalSlugzMaster 3 года назад +1

    That's a Pentax Takumar lens on an AE body??

  • @vyrin
    @vyrin 4 года назад +2

    i was born in 2003 but kangaroo jack was my shit haha completely forgot about that masterpiece

  • @TarekAlShawwa
    @TarekAlShawwa 4 года назад +1

    3:30 mother of dynamic range, what was this part of the video filmed with? How is the sky so blue ???

  • @TommyGrisselFilms
    @TommyGrisselFilms 4 года назад

    great video man

  • @SebastianMas
    @SebastianMas 4 года назад

    Hi Jason. First of all nice video. Second: The 10-year/one stop rule is essentially a myth. It does not apply to every expired film equally at all. And even less to an ASA .06 film.
    That film was practically intact.

  • @alejandroromerodiaz8503
    @alejandroromerodiaz8503 3 года назад

    Why you don't use an external light meter? I mean if you are shooting film is a must.
    If you meter carefully you would get all the exposures right.
    I suggest you to get a spot meter, to calculate the zone system right.
    God bless.

  • @MichaStiller
    @MichaStiller 4 года назад

    You can add custom values on that lightmeter app, not sure if there's a bottom end to that though.

  • @SpontSpiceWeasel
    @SpontSpiceWeasel 4 года назад +4

    We need to talk about that tripod head and where to get one from :O

  • @robertr.8917
    @robertr.8917 4 года назад +1

    "Tune in next week when we explore the jovial uses of microfiche"

  • @Combine_Harvester_of_Truth
    @Combine_Harvester_of_Truth 4 года назад

    There are video that say shoot at box speed and one that say compensate. All the box speed youtube test videos seem to come out fine?! ..
    When I worked at a jessops store as a student, many of the cheap films were stored on a shop shelf and we never had any issues.