Another channel looked at this case and showed some of the footage from his AND his wife's videos (to earn extra money, his wife had a RUclips channel of crafts projects and life hacks.) In her videos, she mentioned that he was such a generous man and took care of the family and you could tell that she was genuinely grateful to him. In HIS videos, he called her lazy and a moocher ..it was so heartbreaking to see that she trusted and loved a man who thought of her as dirt.😢
Youve gotta be absolutely rotten and not have an ounce or glint of any decency whatsoever to murder your daughter. Wife obviously, but at least i can somewhat understand action in that his wife didnt come from him. He raised his little girl all the way to what? Young adulthood? I don't have kids but i have a huge soft spot for little girls. My best friend growing up had a daughter at like 16 and i was basically her uncle. Shes a beautiful adult now but ill always remember her as the cutest sweetest little girl lol. I was always playing with her she was my favorite kid ever. Just thee sweetest little cute smart kid ever. Id literally have gone berserk on anyone if i ever found out she was mistreated etc. i cant even imagine how much more the drive to protect her would be if she was my own daughter. There are certain evil people and evil acts i have 0 ability to understand even on a base level (like how husbands murder there own wives etc).
Peter Keller, what a feller, Built himself an in ground cellar. Offed his wife and his kid, Then Peter Keller ran and hid. Cops soon swarmed from clues he gave, And Keller's cellar became his grave. On a more solemn note, rip Lynette and Kaylene who seemed like very beautiful souls.
Just watched another lengthy video on this case but as always, I can count on Dr. Grande to provide an incredibly thorough and concise summary and analysis that trumps others. Thanks, Dr. Grande!
I saw the videos of him and his wife and it's clear the family was walking on eggshells around him. The dog outright hated him and snarled at him, as if it could sense his evil. When the wife talked about meeting him and him wanting to marry her right away, I thought about the kind of love-bombing that narcissists do.
Your insight is very clever. I was married to a narcissist and thought I had an honorary degree on the subject, but I didn’t pick up on the love bombing in the video. Most people post judgemental comments, but yours is beaming with wisdom!
This guy used the "Prepper" idea as an excuse to make a hideout for when he murdered his family.The fact that he killed the dog shows he just wanted an excuse to kill. He was board w/life and didn't want to support his loved ones financially or emotionally.I can't imagine his wife's last thoughts... forget infidelity, this is truly the ultimate betrayal. What a pathetic excuse for a man. I hope his victims are resting in peace. This was a sad one😢
Wrong. He killed his dog (who he actually loved) because he was afraid the dog might give away his location in the bunker. He also took a very long time to work up the courage to kill his family. This guy wasn't motivated by killing at all. Killing was a means to an end.
I’ve heard you cover a lot of cases involving people who murdered their spouses and children. There are normally warning signs, but in this one, he managed to not give any concrete ones. Very tragic. He killed the two people who helped him achieve his dream of building a bunker. He could have worked towards retirement, and then lived in the bunker without a care in the world. There was no need to do something so horrific and drastic.
@@LeeannG families often hostage to strongest personality, no asking this guy for anything, just keep him happy in his play bunker k? He looks so menacing. RIP Kaylene and Mom 🌹🌹
This guy is one of the most confusing of all the cases you've covered. Huge drive to survive, but none for his wife and daughter. This is narcissism on steroids! Seriously! Ironically, the military has a saying; a cave is a grave. To be safe he did dig a cave to be saved, even while knowing it may be his grave.
I have a saying...the military creates graves wherever they go. Also if he really had such a "huge drive to survive", why did he commit suicide in the end?
I watched the EWU channel on this. I was blown away. He started building this bunker 8 whole years before this happened. This guy had it all, yet whined that he had nothing. He had money in the bank, a loving wife, and a good daughter. and a nice home. I wonder what his friends and coworkers said about him.
This guy was so busy planning to keep his body alive, but neglected his soul. He was a so-called survivalist, but destroyed any reason he had to Live. He was clueless. His family was the best part about him.
I’m so glad you covered this case. He’s a sick sick individual. I watched some of his videos he made leading up to the horror. It’s fascinating and quite disturbing at the same time. But, why did he have to take his wife , daughter and dogs’ lives as well? He really thought the fire would burn the evidence 😢
Can you imagine what would have happened to the poor firefighters who would have gone into the house to try to put out the fire? If the canisters of gasoline had ignited, there would have been 5 more victims and he might have gotten away with his plan !😢
It's an "ownership" thing......when my son passed away my ex-wife decided not to inform me, I was working overseas and only got home once every 4 month's. He was dead and cremated, His Ashes are in her backyard and it's taken me 4+ year's to get access to His last resting place.
Don’t think you can call him a prepper if he’s doing out of boredom and wanting excitement in his life. Seems to me he realized if he was going to live an exciting life of robbing banks he couldn’t keep a traditional address and people who knew of his hideout. He’s like a villain who needs a lair during the day when not committing crimes.
That's a shame. I don't understand why people want to kill others in these situations. He didn't do it to "save" them, because he intended to live alone. His daughter was 18, he could have just left and not killed them.
You gotta be some predatory demonic alien from another dimension as a father to murder your own flesh and blood. That saying daddys girl is because dads instinctively absolutely love there daughters. So fkcn depressing.
I've read about this case in the news and thought that would be great to see the video from Dr Grande. In here it is. As always very interesting. Thanks.
Or is "Aye" a Scottish phrase? I'm a dumb Aussie and I honestly can't tell the difference.... and I'm well aware that fact offends both sides.... So, was I right the first time or should I just go feck off and die?
I am amazed at the ability of the author to add alliterative amusement to an already adequate anecdote and aptness for abstaining from abject absurdity.
Dr. Grande! Still a fan. I just got your book on the Psychology of Notorious Serial Killers at my Work Christmas Party! I cannot wait to read it. Keep up the exceptional work !
Yes. I also hoard hand sanitizer and canned goods. Nothing excessive, just a few weeks worth. I also bought a bunch of How-To books about emergencies, but haven't really read them yet. 😂
Greetings Dr. Grande, longtime subscriber here. Forgive my fixation on such minutiae, but I notice you now have eight cacti on your set, whereas in previous videos, there were seven. I’m just curious if there’s any symbolic reason for this, or if it’s merely an aesthetic choice. I suspect the latter. Thanks for your fascinating presentations. As always, I appreciate your calm, easygoing pacing, as well as your comforting voice. Upon watching your latest uploads, I await with pleasure, your exquisitely dry joke. When I’m lucky, you’ll employ lovely little alliterations, which I long for, like a lavish latte. This video is no exception. To wit: 15:22 - 15:52. This one must be your best yet, and that’s saying something! I’m fully floored at the frequency of your fancy flourishes here, for sure! Thanks again for taking the time to add these elements, just for our amusement! Great stuff. Cheers. x
Hmm...I wonder if Peter knew this? Definitely an omen. Too bad his name wasn't Baker. Then, he might have just menaced his family with carbs, sugar. lol. How are you Mrs.Reluctant? Gtsy! Hope you're well. ❤
Exactly. An unstable, unhappy loser who had to blame all his failings on somebody else. Namely wife and child. An obsessive, homicidal narcissist. RIP to wife, daughter and dog.
I saw a video about this. I’m glad you covered it. I was curious as to what was wrong with him. One thing that I wondered about was did he kill his family to protect them in some morbid way? He could have just divorced and gone off the grid. Scary.
Peter Prepper packed a pantry pit for peril. Paranoid Peter pumped his partner and his progeny. Peter Prepper's prison portion was predicted but for a pistol.
WHAT? Nothing about how Peter Prepper Picked a Peck of Pickled Peppers? 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 Oh, but I do love those alliterations you do Doc. You're a treasure. ❤ Merry Christmas to you your family and your lovely pooch too.
No good ever comes out of building underground bunkers. Put your energy into enjoying your life, buy a boat and go fishing instead. Great calmness comes from being by the sea⛵🌊.
Although he was indeed “preparing for the end of the world”, it didn’t seem like he thought the outside world was going to end, more like he knew he was terribly depressed and his own “inner world” was coming to an end. It’s strange to me how a lot of these suicide types feel they need to kill their whole family in attempt to save them from suffering in a life without them. The human mind works in terrible and mysterious ways…
This guy was a piece of work. Apparently, he was mad at his wife for not contributing to the household income and he grew to hate her. His daughter probably was just collateral damage. EWU has a cool video dissecting his video diaries.
She received disability checks so, she did contribute, she also made and sold scrapbooks! Since it took 8 yrs to come to fruition I’m confused as to his why…. She still worked when he started the camp Keller!
Even if he didn’t kill his family, are people allowed to just go into the forest and build a compound if they don’t own the land directly? Can anyone fill me in on this, I’m genuinely curious in how this works. Are people allowed to do this in public national forests and parks? If it isn’t illegal I’m shocked more people don’t do it.
people do it all the time here. you'll come across little poorly built forts that someone psychopathic survivalist thought was a good idea, but obviously couldn't stand to live in. Summers are short here and thank god there's 6 feet of snow and rain all winter or they would be full time residents. Forest service doesn't have the staff or guns to rout them all. but if enough of the land is trashed by 'camping" they will block the area so you can't drive close to it. Most of these jerks are lazy and not as ambitious as this ______ was.
@@666MaRius9991 I've tried explaining that to people but they refuse to listen to anything because 'it's right in front of your eyes!'. Yeh it is right in front of your eyes but if you turned off your internet and TV it wouldn't be.
Dear Dr Grande, what an amazing matter and analysis. Gee, what would I do without your amazing channel. So interesting and engaging. Yes peppers do. Never Stop. I would so miss your interesting matters, calm engaging analysis.Your valuable channel provides high level learning that there is no other way to achieve. Many thanks for your consistent efforts which many enjoy, I'm confident enough to state that numerous followers of your channels are living far better lives now. By being enabled to spot the sh-t in life and duck before it hits thier personal fan. Many MANY sincere thanks
The dude's brain was rattled. Learning from my grandparents, I've always made sure we have extra in case one loses their job, gets sick....earthquake, tsunami, etc. I'm not doing the whole bunker thing. Above all, I want to provide for and protect my family. There's no way in heck I'd kill them! I'm sitting here shaking my head. This dude had some real serious issues. On top of that, he had some beans and a way to make wine? He wasn't a good prepper. Nope.
Here’s my theory, just an opinion: Peter as a child fantasized about building a forest fort in which he could be safe- possibly to avoid terrible childhood abuse, something he also alluded to. I suppose the thing(s) that happened to him completely broke him and that broken thing lived in him, stunting his ability to develop normally and achieving empathy. His broken mindset prompted him, as he approached 40, to return to the only thing that ever made sense to him. Something which he obsessed over as a helpless child living in constant danger, and never receiving empathy himself. His psyche was so damaged, that he never could rise above it, but instead he relied on maintaining a facade of normalcy which his personality created for him to survive in the world. Survive he did, but always as a sad empty shell with a broken child inside. When midlife approached he realized he could no longer continue and as he put it “could no longer fight it” and decided to do the only thing that made sense to him. He was so empty and dead it cannot be termed narcissistic, because narcissism is a form of self-preservation. He did not feel one iota of self-entitlement, because he despised himself and gave into it. He thought carefully and long about what to do with his loved ones and killed them as painlessly as possible. Perhaps he thought it was merciful. He took good care of them and couldn’t conceive of them continuing happily without him. His world view was such that they too were just hapless victims of being alive, as he was… they just didn’t know it, as he did. His self-recordings and his joyless nihilism are poignant and disturbing. I don’t think he fits the description of “prepper”. It’s a testament to how someone can be so broken on the inside while growing up that the inner resources required to grow mentally are irreparable. I wish someone would delve into his past. It’s a fascinating look at human nature. I feel that Dr. Grande didn’t do this story justice.
My dad lives in north bend Washington. I lived there for a few months at the end of 2003, and have lived about 2 hours away since then. I'm surprised I've never heard of this.
I would bet that he did DV against his wife. Just because she was sweet to him in a recorded video, doesn’t mean he wasn’t abusing her. Sometimes a woman will say good things about an abuser to keep the peace. He put himself and his wishes ahead of his family by building this bunker. He could have done many things for his family with all that money and time.
@@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg oh brutal. Unfortunately when the Drs told me that I would be dead in about three months I rehomed my kitties. It was part of my trying to put things in order so my 82 year old mother wouldn’t have to. Sold my house, car etc. I grieve for my kitties most of all. I think of them everyday even after 18 months. I worry that they are okay. I am in remission and doing great but still grieving for my babies that I bottle fed. I have no way to check on them as they were adopted by a friend of a former friend. So that’s how the cats are. I live across country now, but I still have my doggo because he was earmarked to go to my mom so there is that and he’s doing great. See how your offhanded remark led to a long story.
Yes, I too saw another video about this. I also much prefer Dr. Grande’s Version. I love his objectivity and work ethic. Dr. Grande your research abilities and consistent quality analysis are impressive. Huge Fan Of Yours.😇.
What a selfish man without a conscience who was devoid of love and natural affection! He was a lazy man who no longer wanted to work. If he wanted to leave his family and live in the bunker on his own, why didn't he? He didn't have to kill his wife and daughter to do it. 🧚
I know a couple of preppers. They also think (for example) Britney Spears online is an actor and so is Joe Biden. I told them, "ok, I can get that, but why and why would they make them crazy and senile if they're actors?" Never really got an answer that makes sense.
Conspiracy theorists will or want to believe anything except the most logical answers. I know a few (some of their theories are absurd and offensive), but one of my favorite is that human species were created by aliens to mine gold years ago. However they also claim aliens visit earth, abduct humans, and perform experiments on us to learn about humans. Why would aliens need to do experimental research on humans if they created our species? 😂
Your conflating a prepper with a conspiracy theorist…. But Brittany was a child star who got used and abused by elitist p*dos while Joe is a career political puppet elected by rigged elections
@@NealBurkard-ut1oo Yes, I have a friend who has watched every "Ancient Aliens" episode and believes all of it. He has even told me how the aliens needed Earth's gold and changed early man to make them mine it. It's crazy, and I just smile and nod.
I can't help but ponder, did Peter prep any pickled peppers and protect them from being pilfered. On a serious note, why do these guys feel the need to have families and just eliminate them when they become inconvenient? RIP his wife and daughter.
He was having delusions and was psychotic. A person who is psychotic has lost touch with reality. He thought he was doing his family a favor and so he wouldn’t have to worry about them because he was the one who was providing for the family. This is not uncommon in murder suicides. Keller was delusional and wanted to live in an underground bunker since he was a teenager. I actually watched the entire video made by Keller. It’s pretty chilling. He had to work up the idea of “accepting what needed to be done.”
Also, he wasn't even a "prepper" at all. Preppers are preparing to survive a total breakdown of society. This guy just had a teenage fantasy of living in the woods and had no interest in survival.
Dr. Grande, I think you have overlooked another group of preppers...the graduates of the school of hard knocks. There are people who are considered preppers who prep because they have experienced hard times and hunger and try to safeguard against it for any future hard times. Rather than being driven by fantasy, it is driven from reality. These people are often ones whose needs have been ignored or downplayed. They may suffer from PTSD and not have proper help, or may not be able to attain the help they need. General mental health facilities don't have the same level of care for PTSD as the military, and the military doesn't even have the greatest care. These people live on the fringes of society and instead of getting the help they need, they are repeatedly turned down and rejected by society. Many have suffered on the fringes from childhood, consistently being failed by the system, and simply surviving the best they can. Maybe this is the same introverted group you referenced, and if so, you grossly misunderstand the interworking of their minds. This group has been disenfranchised and no longer believes that society has a place for them because they have been failed repeatedly. We live in a society that says that true poverty doesn't exist in America, but it does, and this group has felt the sting of living in that true poverty while their reality is being denied. It's like they are being gaslit by society. How can they not become distrustful and jaded? Please consider this group as well. They are the forgotten ones until their mere act of trying to survive puts them on the wrong side of the law, (mundane things that shouldn't even be illegal such as dumpster diving and camping in unauthorized areas) and they come in all colors, ages, and sexes. If the government isn't going to help them, then they need to leave them alone for simply trying to survive.
Hey, let's also not forget the people who happen to live in extremely rural areas prone to natural disasters. In my 20 years of living way out here, I've experienced multiple ice storms, snow storms, tornados, floods, and, of course, the lock down. There are times when it's not possible to get to town, or if you get there there's nothing there, sometimes for weeks. When the power goes down, we, out here, are the electric company's last priority. And if we have no power, we have no water. One winter, the roads were sheets of ice for weeks, no water, no power. They sent the national guard but they were busy helping people in the towns, they couldn't probably make it out here even if they tried. I remember breaking ice in the driveway to melt for water to make baby bottles and when there was absolutely nothing left to drink except driveway ice and hard liquor. Some of us stock up on things because it's stupid not to. Some of us learn survival skills because we've seen what a few weeks without power can do, and unexpected long-term power outages are something we must consider.
Not to make this video about me BUT this is the first time one of the stories shares my name ;) Thank you Dr. Grande for sharing insight into how some preppers have extreme ways of thinking. Living in the south I come across this mindset fairly often and it is a bit unsettling to say the least. Stockpiling weapons and food is to be admired by many here.
It sounds like he had a mental break. Was this post pandemic? People are needing a lot of mental services that many are not seeking. I don't think he was a prepper, most are family oriented.
I don't think he was a gun owner. Most of them don't commit murders. I don't think he was a gun owner. Most of them are not peppers. I don't think he was a gun owner. Most of them don't set fire to their homes.
That bunker is very intriguing. It is interesting hearing what type of mindset preppers are most disposed to maintain. The prepper culture is very interesting, I am curious of what areas it is most prevalent.
@@duanecarroll8255 To be fair, the amount of personal effort for that was minimal and he didn't think he'd have to use it anyway, because... Well, obviously he was winning the war. His tanks were better. His planes were better. His generals were better. What could possibly go wrong?
It really sucks to not get the full confession and motive. He seemed to have the perfect life... Aside from the underground bunker. Bunkers should be on the red flag list.
"Camp Keller" a symbol of fear, irreality and vulnerability😁 The famous Viennese psychoanalyst A. Adler suggested that the "birth trauma" is never overcome, even when individuals reach the age of maturity (roughly 21+). It's clear that most adults fail to come to terms with the fact of "having been born." Birthing is painful for all parties and while often celebrated it's actually viewed by many, mostly subconsciously, as a misfortune. This is evident when young people around the age of 15 say things like "I wish I had never been born" or, a variation, "I never asked to be born." It should be clear to anyone that the "bunker" is symbolically a return to the "womb." The bunker represents self-contained and undisturbed existence where there is no anxiety and no apprehension. We can say that being an adult in our society means an acceptance of risk, anxiety, and living with vulnerability. As I understand the situation, there are basically two options given our common predicament: retreat or surrender. Retreat is the avenue known as "psychosis." This is a rejection of reality and a preference for one's own wishes and desires. Or there is another option. This option I call "love"- love in the sense of self-surrender, sacrifice, ridding oneself of one's self and living for others. Through acts of self-sacrifice we realize why we were created in the first place: to share the love that God has for all of us. Thank you.
I’ve watched a few vids on this guy but I missed some of the new info I heard here (like that he started construction of the bunker in 2004). It was certainly disturbing to see him apparently talk himself into killing his wife and daughter before reaching that stage of acceptance. I wondered why he didn’t just disappear, leave them behind, but if they knew as much as you mentioned here, there was no way he would let them risk his future, so now that makes sense too.
I don’t think he cared about himself or his future. He gave into nihilism, despised himself, and thought his wife and daughter were hapless victims of being alive, as he was… they just didn’t realize it, as he did. He killed them mercifully (in his mind). His childhood fantasy of building a forest fort speaks of trying to get away from horriffic child abuse, something he alluded to. As he approached middle age he knew the only thing that would make him feel “alive” albeit temporarily, was to go back to that childhood impulse and build a bunker where he could feel safe. My theory, just an opinion.
Another channel looked at this case and showed some of the footage from his AND his wife's videos (to earn extra money, his wife had a RUclips channel of crafts projects and life hacks.) In her videos, she mentioned that he was such a generous man and took care of the family and you could tell that she was genuinely grateful to him. In HIS videos, he called her lazy and a moocher ..it was so heartbreaking to see that she trusted and loved a man who thought of her as dirt.😢
His daughter was enrolled in college courses related to Peter’s interests. Really sad how he didn’t see that as exciting.
I think we can assume he wasn't thinking straight
There's a college course on building bunkers and murdering your family? Truly America is the land of opportunities for everyone
Youve gotta be absolutely rotten and not have an ounce or glint of any decency whatsoever to murder your daughter. Wife obviously, but at least i can somewhat understand action in that his wife didnt come from him. He raised his little girl all the way to what? Young adulthood? I don't have kids but i have a huge soft spot for little girls. My best friend growing up had a daughter at like 16 and i was basically her uncle. Shes a beautiful adult now but ill always remember her as the cutest sweetest little girl lol. I was always playing with her she was my favorite kid ever. Just thee sweetest little cute smart kid ever. Id literally have gone berserk on anyone if i ever found out she was mistreated etc. i cant even imagine how much more the drive to protect her would be if she was my own daughter. There are certain evil people and evil acts i have 0 ability to understand even on a base level (like how husbands murder there own wives etc).
Peter Keller, what a feller,
Built himself an in ground cellar.
Offed his wife and his kid,
Then Peter Keller ran and hid.
Cops soon swarmed from clues he gave,
And Keller's cellar became his grave.
On a more solemn note, rip Lynette and Kaylene who seemed like very beautiful souls.
Bars!
If they make a horror film based on the events, your poem should be used in it.
bars
Keller wasn't a smart feller
Keller was a fart smeller
I get that stuff stuck in my head (like intrusive rhyme lol), but usually refrain from posting.
Thanks, i'm glad it's appreciated 😚
Hey, you could really help us when we're short on time if you continue to post these intrusive lyrical summaries.
Just watched another lengthy video on this case but as always, I can count on Dr. Grande to provide an incredibly thorough and concise summary and analysis that trumps others. Thanks, Dr. Grande!
I saw the videos of him and his wife and it's clear the family was walking on eggshells around him. The dog outright hated him and snarled at him, as if it could sense his evil. When the wife talked about meeting him and him wanting to marry her right away, I thought about the kind of love-bombing that narcissists do.
Your insight is very clever. I was married to a narcissist and thought I had an honorary degree on the subject, but I didn’t pick up on the love bombing in the video. Most people post judgemental comments, but yours is beaming with wisdom!
A perfectly-presented portrait of a perplexing prepping person.
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Admittedly, we all are in awe of our allies amazing alliteration despite the disturbing deeds of dis disgruntled dickhead.
Piss poor presentation.
This guy used the "Prepper" idea as an excuse to make a hideout for when he murdered his family.The fact that he killed the dog shows he just wanted an excuse to kill. He was board w/life and didn't want to support his loved ones financially or emotionally.I can't imagine his wife's last thoughts... forget infidelity, this is truly the ultimate betrayal. What a pathetic excuse for a man. I hope his victims are resting in peace. This was a sad one😢
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.lowest of the low
Wrong. He killed his dog (who he actually loved) because he was afraid the dog might give away his location in the bunker. He also took a very long time to work up the courage to kill his family. This guy wasn't motivated by killing at all. Killing was a means to an end.
He is a 5’5” dude with narcissism, those dudes always end up killing people.
Thank you. As someone who is very into preparedness, i.e. a "prepper," albeit a politically left-leaning one, I don't see his actions as "prepping."
He was bored, but maybe used some boards in his hideout.
I’ve heard you cover a lot of cases involving people who murdered their spouses and children. There are normally warning signs, but in this one, he managed to not give any concrete ones. Very tragic. He killed the two people who helped him achieve his dream of building a bunker. He could have worked towards retirement, and then lived in the bunker without a care in the world. There was no need to do something so horrific and drastic.
Idk building a bunker in the middle of the woods seems like a red flag
The thing I don’t understand is how he spent days in the woods and his family never asked any questions about it.
but if people did that , we would not have Dr. Todd Grande . :)
@@LeeannG families often hostage to strongest personality, no asking this guy for anything, just keep him happy in his play bunker k? He looks so menacing. RIP Kaylene and Mom 🌹🌹
@corvus8638 seriously, the bunker thing is a pretty big red flag
This guy is one of the most confusing of all the cases you've covered. Huge drive to survive, but none for his wife and daughter. This is narcissism on steroids! Seriously! Ironically, the military has a saying; a cave is a grave. To be safe he did dig a cave to be saved, even while knowing it may be his grave.
I have a saying...the military creates graves wherever they go. Also if he really had such a "huge drive to survive", why did he commit suicide in the end?
I don't think you understand what narcissism is.
I watched the EWU channel on this. I was blown away. He started building this bunker 8 whole years before this happened. This guy had it all, yet whined that he had nothing. He had money in the bank, a loving wife, and a good daughter. and a nice home. I wonder what his friends and coworkers said about him.
This guy was so busy planning to keep his body alive, but neglected his soul. He was a so-called survivalist, but destroyed any reason he had to Live. He was clueless. His family was the best part about him.
Couldn't have said it better. Thanks for that.
This is what these people don’t understand. It’s spiritual warfare they need to be fighting, not physical.
@@HautenaniExactly!!! 🙏
@@Hautenaniwhat are your thoughts on LGTBQ?
Thanks Captain obvious.
European here. Underground bunker is never a positive thing.... And avoid men with self built submarines.
"Avoid men with self built submarines" I spit out my coffee laughing at that, even though it's actually solid advice!
We all died in a yellow submarine. A yellow submarine . A yellow submarine.
Right? It stinks of an unsettled mind that is riddled with mental illness and conspiracy theories.
I worked with Pete at FedEx circa 2004-2006.
I can’t believe what I am reading.
He made our work-group, home-made beer.
I’m so glad you covered this case. He’s a sick sick individual. I watched some of his videos he made leading up to the horror. It’s fascinating and quite disturbing at the same time. But, why did he have to take his wife , daughter and dogs’ lives as well? He really thought the fire would burn the evidence 😢
Can you imagine what would have happened to the poor firefighters who would have gone into the house to try to put out the fire? If the canisters of gasoline had ignited, there would have been 5 more victims and he might have gotten away with his plan !😢
I will never understand why people murder their spouse or family. If you're unhappy just leave. 🤷😢
He would have owed her alimony for the rest of her life because of not working.
It's an "ownership" thing......when my son passed away my ex-wife decided not to inform me, I was working overseas and only got home once every 4 month's. He was dead and cremated, His Ashes are in her backyard and it's taken me 4+ year's to get access to His last resting place.
@@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg I am so sorry for your loss.
@@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg😥
Answer: He was insane.
Don’t think you can call him a prepper if he’s doing out of boredom and wanting excitement in his life. Seems to me he realized if he was going to live an exciting life of robbing banks he couldn’t keep a traditional address and people who knew of his hideout. He’s like a villain who needs a lair during the day when not committing crimes.
Agree.
More of a hideout than a traditional pepper bunker. This is pretty clear in his videos.
He was a loner. He loved no one except his dog, but ultimately killed everything that loved him.
Yes I can't imagine many banks being operational after society crumbles. Grande misread this case.
That's a shame. I don't understand why people want to kill others in these situations. He didn't do it to "save" them, because he intended to live alone. His daughter was 18, he could have just left and not killed them.
You gotta be some predatory demonic alien from another dimension as a father to murder your own flesh and blood. That saying daddys girl is because dads instinctively absolutely love there daughters. So fkcn depressing.
They would have revealed the bunker to the cops after his crime spree...
Stories that involve a 'secret underground bunker' usually end badly in my experience.
Right? It doesn’t even end well.
Even without the “secret” part. : /
I know a guy that lives in one, he's a piece
Fallout has a decent ending
Dont tell Colin Furze that!
I don't think I have ever seen someone with the alliteration skills like Dr. Grande's. Purely amazing!
Not to mention his signature deadpan humor.
I've read about this case in the news and thought that would be great to see the video from Dr Grande. In here it is. As always very interesting. Thanks.
Paranoid schizophrenia. ( but I'm not diagnosing anybody only speculating about what could be happening in a situation like this.)
No need to kill his family! He could just feck off to the woods if that's what he wanted to do.
Aye! I couldn't agree more!
Or is "Aye" a Scottish phrase?
I'm a dumb Aussie and I honestly can't tell the difference.... and I'm well aware that fact offends both sides.... So, was I right the first time or should I just go feck off and die?
@@piotrekszczepanski5125Everybody in favor, say Aye. All those opposed say Nay. It's a good word.
416 views 7 min. following release. It's because us hard-core fans are ready when the new upload appears! Thank you Dr Grande 😊
I am amazed at the ability of the author to add alliterative amusement to an already adequate anecdote and aptness for abstaining from abject absurdity.
Dr. Grande! Still a fan. I just got your book on the Psychology of Notorious Serial Killers at my Work Christmas Party! I cannot wait to read it. Keep up the exceptional work !
I see the prepping really helped his family to remain safe.
Ever since the pandemic, I've become somewhat of a prepper. I never have less than 30 rolls of toilet paper at any given time.
Mine would be canned cat food - very hard to get there for a while! 🙀
Canned toilet papper
I never understood the toilet paper rationale,, we just kept newspapers for awhile lol....
We save our corncobs.
Yes. I also hoard hand sanitizer and canned goods. Nothing excessive, just a few weeks worth. I also bought a bunch of How-To books about emergencies, but haven't really read them yet. 😂
Greetings Dr. Grande, longtime subscriber here. Forgive my fixation on such minutiae, but I notice you now have eight cacti on your set, whereas in previous videos, there were seven. I’m just curious if there’s any symbolic reason for this, or if it’s merely an aesthetic choice. I suspect the latter. Thanks for your fascinating presentations. As always, I appreciate your calm, easygoing pacing, as well as your comforting voice. Upon watching your latest uploads, I await with pleasure, your exquisitely dry joke. When I’m lucky, you’ll employ lovely little alliterations, which I long for, like a lavish latte. This video is no exception. To wit: 15:22 - 15:52. This one must be your best yet, and that’s saying something! I’m fully floored at the frequency of your fancy flourishes here, for sure! Thanks again for taking the time to add these elements, just for our amusement! Great stuff. Cheers. x
Thank you for all your hard work! 🙏
How bizarre and sad.
Nomen est omen. This man's last name is the German word for basement, cellar, bunker.
Hmm...I wonder if Peter knew this? Definitely an omen. Too bad his name wasn't Baker. Then, he might have just menaced his family with carbs, sugar. lol. How are you Mrs.Reluctant? Gtsy! Hope you're well. ❤
@@LDiamondz Sweet comment, TY! Always nice to read from you! ❤
I think he knew the meaning of his lastname... 😊
You are extremely intelligent Dr Grande. Very informative and educational. Thank you so much. Loved the "P's" game in this narration too.
This guy didn't deserve what he had.
He was upset that it was he that was falling apart instead of the society and government around him.
Exactly. An unstable, unhappy loser who had to blame all his failings on somebody else. Namely wife and child. An obsessive, homicidal narcissist. RIP to wife, daughter and dog.
Yes.
@@LKre-vi5oqYes.😞🙏❤️
He would have loved Jan6 and Trump
I saw a video about this. I’m glad you covered it. I was curious as to what was wrong with him. One thing that I wondered about was did he kill his family to protect them in some morbid way? He could have just divorced and gone off the grid. Scary.
Peter Prepper packed a pantry pit for peril. Paranoid Peter pumped his partner and his progeny. Peter Prepper's prison portion was predicted but for a pistol.
monorail!
That’s easy for you yo say buddy
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WHAT? Nothing about how Peter Prepper Picked a Peck of Pickled Peppers? 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 Oh, but I do love those alliterations you do Doc. You're a treasure. ❤ Merry Christmas to you your family and your lovely pooch too.
oh my thoughts exactly!!
that "Peter Piper" reference though. i appreciate your humor doc.
Watching this on EWU's channel, I was hoping Dr Grande would analyse it! This was crazy enough, but he documented it, which is just next level
Dr Grande, such a penchant for word play!
Not sure why we're even calling this guy a prepper. He did the same things as a prepper but the motivation behind it is completely different
Wow all the words starting with P at the end... very impressive Dr. Grande 👏 👏
No good ever comes out of building underground bunkers. Put your energy into enjoying your life, buy a boat and go fishing instead. Great calmness comes from being by the sea⛵🌊.
@@datbat1 I'd rather not be his 'passenger', especially a dark one.
Returning to watch this analysis again.
Thank you Dr. Grande 🙏
Although he was indeed “preparing for the end of the world”, it didn’t seem like he thought the outside world was going to end, more like he knew he was terribly depressed and his own “inner world” was coming to an end. It’s strange to me how a lot of these suicide types feel they need to kill their whole family in attempt to save them from suffering in a life without them. The human mind works in terrible and mysterious ways…
Wonderful alliteration, Dr. Grande!!
This guy was a piece of work. Apparently, he was mad at his wife for not contributing to the household income and he grew to hate her. His daughter probably was just collateral damage. EWU has a cool video dissecting his video diaries.
Out in the Woods behaving like a Manchild.
She received disability checks so, she did contribute, she also made and sold scrapbooks! Since it took 8 yrs to come to fruition I’m confused as to his why…. She still worked when he started the camp Keller!
What is EWU?
@@greatamericandreamrealty802 Explore With Us, It's a true crime channel on RUclips.
@@greatamericandreamrealty802 ExploreWithUs
Dr. Grande's academic ability, appetite and aptitude has allowed his ascend to the apogee of alliterative altitudes, to my apocalyptic amusement.
Even if he didn’t kill his family, are people allowed to just go into the forest and build a compound if they don’t own the land directly? Can anyone fill me in on this, I’m genuinely curious in how this works. Are people allowed to do this in public national forests and parks? If it isn’t illegal I’m shocked more people don’t do it.
You can't do this legally.
People are allowed on state land and national, however it is illegal to leave property, divert water using piping, cut down trees. Etc
No, it's not at all legal. I suspect that he would also have murdered any hiker who happened upon his secret bunker.
I don't think he was particularly concerned about legalities of things.
people do it all the time here. you'll come across little poorly built forts that someone psychopathic survivalist thought was a good idea, but obviously couldn't stand to live in. Summers are short here and thank god there's 6 feet of snow and rain all winter or they would be full time residents. Forest service doesn't have the staff or guns to rout them all. but if enough of the land is trashed by 'camping" they will block the area so you can't drive close to it. Most of these jerks are lazy and not as ambitious as this ______ was.
The preponderance of the letter P caused quite a bit of perspiring on my part. Thanx Doc.
Are there more family annihilators than there used to be, or are we talking about them more?
During covid lockdowns I know family murders went up. Not sure if it tapered off, or it's still higher than before.
Good question.🤔
The ability for women to divorce their husbands has probably contributed somewhat
Fragile male egos afraid of losing power
Also guns
There are less,believe it or not humanity is getting better.We just see everything now.
@@666MaRius9991 I've tried explaining that to people but they refuse to listen to anything because 'it's right in front of your eyes!'.
Yeh it is right in front of your eyes but if you turned off your internet and TV it wouldn't be.
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The dude's brain was rattled. Learning from my grandparents, I've always made sure we have extra in case one loses their job, gets sick....earthquake, tsunami, etc. I'm not doing the whole bunker thing. Above all, I want to provide for and protect my family. There's no way in heck I'd kill them! I'm sitting here shaking my head. This dude had some real serious issues. On top of that, he had some beans and a way to make wine? He wasn't a good prepper. Nope.
Savage use of alliteration towards the end 😆
One would think people would have learned from Hitler's rather negative bunker experience.
Love the “P” analyses!
Dr grande definitely watches explore with us, I only just watched them cover this story last week.
When would he even have time, dude drops a video every day, sometimes 2!
Such an excellent mini-documentary.
That may have been the most extended use of alteration I've ever heard. Very nice.
Here’s my theory, just an opinion:
Peter as a child fantasized about building a forest fort in which he could be safe- possibly to avoid terrible childhood abuse, something he also alluded to.
I suppose the thing(s) that happened to him completely broke him and that broken thing lived in him, stunting his ability to develop normally and achieving empathy. His broken mindset prompted him, as he approached 40, to return to the only thing that ever made sense to him. Something which he obsessed over as a helpless child living in constant danger, and never receiving empathy himself.
His psyche was so damaged, that he never could rise above it, but instead he relied on maintaining a facade of normalcy which his personality created for him to survive in the world. Survive he did, but always as a sad empty shell with a broken child inside. When midlife approached he realized he could no longer continue and as he put it “could no longer fight it” and decided to do the only thing that made sense to him.
He was so empty and dead it cannot be termed narcissistic, because narcissism is a form of self-preservation. He did not feel one iota of self-entitlement, because he despised himself and gave into it.
He thought carefully and long about what to do with his loved ones and killed them as painlessly as possible. Perhaps he thought it was merciful. He took good care of them and couldn’t conceive of them continuing happily without him. His world view was such that they too were just hapless victims of being alive, as he was… they just didn’t know it, as he did.
His self-recordings and his joyless nihilism are poignant and disturbing. I don’t think he fits the description of “prepper”.
It’s a testament to how someone can be so broken on the inside while growing up that the inner resources required to grow mentally are irreparable.
I wish someone would delve into his past. It’s a fascinating look at human nature. I feel that Dr. Grande didn’t do this story justice.
Neighbors: “He seemed like such a normal guy.”
My dad lives in north bend Washington. I lived there for a few months at the end of 2003, and have lived about 2 hours away since then. I'm surprised I've never heard of this.
I would bet that he did DV against his wife. Just because she was sweet to him in a recorded video, doesn’t mean he wasn’t abusing her. Sometimes a woman will say good things about an abuser to keep the peace. He put himself and his wishes ahead of his family by building this bunker. He could have done many things for his family with all that money and time.
I agree. There’s little hints in the things she says in some of the video clips. Like being afraid to wake him up in one. Very subtle.
Always best to go with "feeling's" Deb. How are your Cats?
@@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg oh brutal. Unfortunately when the Drs told me that I would be dead in about three months I rehomed my kitties. It was part of my trying to put things in order so my 82 year old mother wouldn’t have to. Sold my house, car etc. I grieve for my kitties most of all. I think of them everyday even after 18 months. I worry that they are okay. I am in remission and doing great but still grieving for my babies that I bottle fed. I have no way to check on them as they were adopted by a friend of a former friend. So that’s how the cats are. I live across country now, but I still have my doggo because he was earmarked to go to my mom so there is that and he’s doing great. See how your offhanded remark led to a long story.
Perfectly prepared precise presentation.
Can't wait to see the video he'll make about Bad Surgeon: Dr. Paolo Macchiarini
Yes, I too saw another video about this. I also much prefer Dr. Grande’s Version. I love his objectivity and work ethic. Dr. Grande your research abilities and consistent quality analysis are impressive. Huge Fan Of Yours.😇.
What a selfish man without a conscience who was devoid of love and natural affection! He was a lazy man who no longer wanted to work. If he wanted to leave his family and live in the bunker on his own, why didn't he? He didn't have to kill his wife and daughter to do it. 🧚
Isn't ironic how he was so obsessed with his own survival while not caring about anyone else's.
Great case analysis and hiking trail recommend all in one video! Thanks Dr. Grande!
I know a couple of preppers. They also think (for example) Britney Spears online is an actor and so is Joe Biden.
I told them, "ok, I can get that, but why and why would they make them crazy and senile if they're actors?" Never really got an answer that makes sense.
Conspiracy theorists will or want to believe anything except the most logical answers. I know a few (some of their theories are absurd and offensive), but one of my favorite is that human species were created by aliens to mine gold years ago. However they also claim aliens visit earth, abduct humans, and perform experiments on us to learn about humans. Why would aliens need to do experimental research on humans if they created our species? 😂
Your conflating a prepper with a conspiracy theorist…. But Brittany was a child star who got used and abused by elitist p*dos while Joe is a career political puppet elected by rigged elections
@@NealBurkard-ut1ooThat is preposterous. We are put here to mine uranium, not gold.
I've never met a prepper that wasn't "off."
@@NealBurkard-ut1oo Yes, I have a friend who has watched every "Ancient Aliens" episode and believes all of it. He has even told me how the aliens needed Earth's gold and changed early man to make them mine it. It's crazy, and I just smile and nod.
Dr. Grande's alliteration at the end was impressive. I bet he had fun writing that.
36. There were 36 in the summary
Always interesting
Thank you
And clever!
I can't help but ponder, did Peter prep any pickled peppers and protect them from being pilfered.
On a serious note, why do these guys feel the need to have families and just eliminate them when they become inconvenient? RIP his wife and daughter.
always avoid alliteration
Fantastic alliterations - palpable panic of pending peril.. perceived his purpose as a prepper. Great work!
You forgot one movie that the group motivated by fear probably connect to... The Road. One of the most terrifying movies I have ever seen.
reading that book was a miserable experience.
Hi Dr. Grande, your many Video Contents are Excellent, but your Tongue-Twisters are Brilliant! 🤣
Not a prepper, He was a survivalist .
There’s a lot of overlap.
Nah, this was like a villain bunker. This dude is like a scary movie character.
there are some other terms which also seem to apply to peter.
Loved the last few paragraphs and the prominent use of the letter P. Purposely perhaps?
Well, you told us who he was, but why he murdered his wife, daughter, then himself is unexplained. Being a prepper isn't really a motive.
He was having delusions and was psychotic. A person who is psychotic has lost touch with reality. He thought he was doing his family a favor and so he wouldn’t have to worry about them because he was the one who was providing for the family. This is not uncommon in murder suicides. Keller was delusional and wanted to live in an underground bunker since he was a teenager. I actually watched the entire video made by Keller. It’s pretty chilling. He had to work up the idea of “accepting what needed to be done.”
Also, he wasn't even a "prepper" at all. Preppers are preparing to survive a total breakdown of society. This guy just had a teenage fantasy of living in the woods and had no interest in survival.
He was probably afraid his family would become "Zombified" during the Apocalypse?. These preppers think in "Absolutes"
All preppers are delusional. I wouldn't trust any of them.
@@byronfoppola8676 What?.....don't you know that the Zombies are coming!
I applaud your plosively punctuated postscript, and I am persuaded to pronounce that it is perfect.
Hi Dr. G❤
"good lord honey!" - Reba Macintyre, as Bert Gummers wife. Movie: Tremors
Dr. Grande, I think you have overlooked another group of preppers...the graduates of the school of hard knocks. There are people who are considered preppers who prep because they have experienced hard times and hunger and try to safeguard against it for any future hard times. Rather than being driven by fantasy, it is driven from reality. These people are often ones whose needs have been ignored or downplayed. They may suffer from PTSD and not have proper help, or may not be able to attain the help they need. General mental health facilities don't have the same level of care for PTSD as the military, and the military doesn't even have the greatest care. These people live on the fringes of society and instead of getting the help they need, they are repeatedly turned down and rejected by society. Many have suffered on the fringes from childhood, consistently being failed by the system, and simply surviving the best they can. Maybe this is the same introverted group you referenced, and if so, you grossly misunderstand the interworking of their minds. This group has been disenfranchised and no longer believes that society has a place for them because they have been failed repeatedly. We live in a society that says that true poverty doesn't exist in America, but it does, and this group has felt the sting of living in that true poverty while their reality is being denied. It's like they are being gaslit by society. How can they not become distrustful and jaded? Please consider this group as well. They are the forgotten ones until their mere act of trying to survive puts them on the wrong side of the law, (mundane things that shouldn't even be illegal such as dumpster diving and camping in unauthorized areas) and they come in all colors, ages, and sexes. If the government isn't going to help them, then they need to leave them alone for simply trying to survive.
Hey, let's also not forget the people who happen to live in extremely rural areas prone to natural disasters.
In my 20 years of living way out here, I've experienced multiple ice storms, snow storms, tornados, floods, and, of course, the lock down.
There are times when it's not possible to get to town, or if you get there there's nothing there, sometimes for weeks.
When the power goes down, we, out here, are the electric company's last priority. And if we have no power, we have no water.
One winter, the roads were sheets of ice for weeks, no water, no power.
They sent the national guard but they were busy helping people in the towns, they couldn't probably make it out here even if they tried.
I remember breaking ice in the driveway to melt for water to make baby bottles and when there was absolutely nothing left to drink except driveway ice and hard liquor.
Some of us stock up on things because it's stupid not to.
Some of us learn survival skills because we've seen what a few weeks without power can do, and unexpected long-term power outages are something we must consider.
Not to make this video about me BUT this is the first time one of the stories shares my name ;)
Thank you Dr. Grande for sharing insight into how some preppers have extreme ways of thinking. Living in the south I come across this mindset fairly often and it is a bit unsettling to say the least. Stockpiling weapons and food is to be admired by many here.
If you don't like your family just divorce or leave.
He would owe alimony and the daughter would not be on his side.
His daughter was 18 that time. She would have been independent from both.
He was not a general prepper he was his own prepper preparing for his own end in his own mind! 😅
It sounds like he had a mental break. Was this post pandemic? People are needing a lot of mental services that many are not seeking. I don't think he was a prepper, most are family oriented.
Before the pandemic. 2012 I believe.
I don't think he was a gun owner. Most of them don't commit murders.
I don't think he was a gun owner. Most of them are not peppers.
I don't think he was a gun owner. Most of them don't set fire to their homes.
That bunker is very intriguing.
It is interesting hearing what type of mindset preppers are most disposed to maintain.
The prepper culture is very interesting, I am curious of what areas it is most prevalent.
The ending was great, your awesome doc. Ahahahaha ❤❤❤
I swear Dr. Grande either once was or still is a rapper/ghostwriter.
Hide your bunker well But when you get old or sick and eventually die nobody will find you.
omg i know i should not laugh but Dr. Grande's final thoughts were hilarious! 😂
Guy spends 8 years building a "survival" bunker, then commits suicide in it.
8 years
It's clear that he was a fkin loser.
I can remember there was a guy named Adolph that did that in a bunker...
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To be fair, the amount of personal effort for that was minimal and he didn't think he'd have to use it anyway, because... Well, obviously he was winning the war. His tanks were better. His planes were better. His generals were better. What could possibly go wrong?
@@duanecarroll8255It took this nutjob longer to build the bunker than the so-called thousand year Reich lasted after invading Poland
I love the ending analysis!
It really sucks to not get the full confession and motive.
He seemed to have the perfect life... Aside from the underground bunker. Bunkers should be on the red flag list.
Guy was a gun nut
Psychological checks to buy guns could have saved their lives
I was waiting for you analysis on this case thank you Dr grande !!
When mid life crisis’ go beyond buying a sports car and having an affair
I recently saw this case on Bruce Rivers channel. Stop self snitching. LOL. but it's always refresing to see a different take from Dr. Grande.
"Camp Keller" a symbol of fear, irreality and vulnerability😁
The famous Viennese psychoanalyst A. Adler suggested that the "birth trauma" is never overcome, even when individuals reach the age of maturity (roughly 21+). It's clear that most adults fail to come to terms with the fact of "having been born." Birthing is painful for all parties and while often celebrated it's actually viewed by many, mostly subconsciously, as a misfortune. This is evident when young people around the age of 15 say things like "I wish I had never been born" or, a variation, "I never asked to be born." It should be clear to anyone that the "bunker" is symbolically a return to the "womb."
The bunker represents self-contained and undisturbed existence where there is no anxiety and no apprehension. We can say that being an adult in our society means an acceptance of risk, anxiety, and living with vulnerability. As I understand the situation, there are basically two options given our common predicament: retreat or surrender. Retreat is the avenue known as "psychosis." This is a rejection of reality and a preference for one's own wishes and desires. Or there is another option. This option I call "love"- love in the sense of self-surrender, sacrifice, ridding oneself of one's self and living for others. Through acts of self-sacrifice we realize why we were created in the first place: to share the love that God has for all of us. Thank you.
So many guns was a red flag! No normal person needs that! That should have raised questions and anguish! 😅
I’ve watched a few vids on this guy but I missed some of the new info I heard here (like that he started construction of the bunker in 2004). It was certainly disturbing to see him apparently talk himself into killing his wife and daughter before reaching that stage of acceptance. I wondered why he didn’t just disappear, leave them behind, but if they knew as much as you mentioned here, there was no way he would let them risk his future, so now that makes sense too.
I don’t think he cared about himself or his future. He gave into nihilism, despised himself, and thought his wife and daughter were hapless victims of being alive, as he was… they just didn’t realize it, as he did. He killed them mercifully (in his mind).
His childhood fantasy of building a forest fort speaks of trying to get away from horriffic child abuse, something he alluded to. As he approached middle age he knew the only thing that would make him feel “alive” albeit temporarily, was to go back to that childhood impulse and build a bunker where he could feel safe. My theory, just an opinion.