'High Society' Lovers Post Spoils of Massive Fraud on Social Media | Anderton & Kirsch Case Analysis
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- This video answers the question: Can I analyze case of Edward Anderton and Jocelyn Kirsch?
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These fake comments are so crazy is anything real anymore?
@@jumpman366 You would be a great topic for “today’s question is” 😅
It always bewilders when people put so much energy into being a criminal and stealing other people’s money, but refuse to put that energy into an honest job…
Women politicians.
Because being a criminal is exciting, and there are no rules. You are in control of your life in a way that you never can be in a regular job.
@@JFDA5458 well they definitely aren’t in control of their lives in jail or prison 🤣🤣
@@alvjkd Do you really think people such as these believe they will be caught, let alone go to prison?
@@JFDA5458 clearly they do. Did you watch the video? Obviously not everyone gets caught. What does being caught have to do with what I said anyway? 😂
No matter how much people smile in their casual photos, they never look happy in their mugshots.
I wonder why🤔
@@iamthebrokerA woman in Florida who killed people in a DUI smiled in her mugshot and the judge really didn't like it. It's a bad idea.
I mean it is mandatory not to smile in government related photos
@@chris55529 There's a woman in Florida named Angenette Welk who really regrets smiling in her mugshot.
@@MakerInMotion I actually looked her up, and you're right! Also I forgot Jodi Arias, my bad.
Being busted for lying about being sick because your tan gave you away is too funny.😆
He got a scholarship but was only book-smart. What a Darwinian mistake.
Jaundice…. Boss, it’s JAUNDICE!😂
@@888LongballA Darwinian mistake is one that ends your life and thus prevents reproduction. That's what the Darwin part means.
@@atomcraft4067 it’s the pathetic
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These are the neighbors Dave Chapelle was talking about...they steal your flat screen tv, then come over the next day and say "I hear you got robbed"😉
Chris Rock
@@SuperMathewson Dang, that's right 👍
@@SuperMathewson "People who annoy you..." 😉
lol sounds about right
Whenever you buy a new flat screen tv, be sure to place the box in your pesky neighbor’s pile on trash day.
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@@ronald3836 That's a huge insult to Dr Grande.
@@Stichting_NoFa-p Will he need therapy now?
Agreed.
My ex brother-in-law is a klepto, I can't tell you how much stuff he stole from us when he was invited over for different holidays. Finally realizing that his actions were inevitable we started locking away important things b4 he came over. He's 53 and still can't be trusted.
Drugs?
Why did you continue to invite him?
He’d be out my life
Don't invite him over lol, why would you invite someone you don't trust?
Was he always like that since childhood?
They stole from all their friends and neighbors. That is as low as it gets.
What a lovely couple not to have as friends.
Right? I wouldn't even let them in my house much less stand next to them.
@@KimberlyLetsGo especially around my credit cards! 😅
Choosing people not to be your friends is always a great idea if they are creeps, weirdos and losers. Choosing people not to be my brothers and sisters is not working out very well however.
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@@tomheineman4369 I'm sorry
UPenn graduates who grew up with everything they needed and they do this. Psycho's are everywhere.
And look like that, healthy bodies, great good looks and f.u.ed brains.
Only 1 was a Penn grad. The other was a dime-a-dozen Drexel ho.
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Greetings from Greece
I hope you are doing well in Greece! Greetings from South Carolina
My sis just came back visiting Greece for the first time and she loved it! Said it’s peaceful, beautiful and food is delicious. My late grandmother was born and raised there but I’ve never been myself... Hopefully one day.
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At her sentencing she said “One thing was for certain, Jocelyn would not be arrested again.”
In 2012 Joselyn was arrested again.
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(insert Curb Your Enthusiasm Theme)
He's a master of verbal irony lol
You KNEW it was coming!!
I see this joke coming every time now. It's overused.
Had a massive head start with very socioeconomic and probably warm family dynamics. I can never feel even a scintilla of empathy towards these people
Ongoing Credit card & Check frauds.
We'll never get caught!
You might as well walk into the police station and confess. Wow
What an unbelievable crime! They should have gotten at least 10 years in prison.
Just seems to be the way the system works. *Sam Bankman-Fried only got 25 years for $11B Fraud.* _BILLION with a B!_ He should be locked up for the rest of his life, but nope he'll be out way before that 25 years is up. _The smug asshole!_
Jocelyn got off with 5 month when she reoffended by stealing again. I think that less than a year was wrong because she stole again.
Which one?
Nah!
Look at Sam Bankman-Fried only got 25 years for $11B Fraud. BILLION with a B! He should be locked up for the rest of his life, but nope he'll be out way before that 25 years is up.
I'm living in TX with non-functional ac unable to get it fixed due to no $$. With no intention to steal or defraud seeing these two with all their opportunity spread misery makes me sad. What a waste.
Skill issue.
More power to you!❤
I lived in the most TX part of CA, Bakersfield, complete with oil. When the AC was out I drank beer. When the power went out I drank beer.
You will be blessed and your situation will improve.
Watch ac repair & diagnose vidoes. It's most likely a simple repair, like replacing a bad component.
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I frequently fall asleep to his voice. That's why I have added many of my favorite Grande vids to my "Watch Later" list and have the list replay all night lol.
Some people love to portray fantasy lives on social media. 😒. Some for ego, envy, greed and more.
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People like that only want materialistic things no matter who they hurt. Their whole life centers on greed. They will never know the feeling of appreciating the simple things in life like seeing a baby smile or picking wild flowers on a hillside.
How the hell do you know that?
In my opinion, there are two types of people in this world: the possessors and the protectors. Possessors are narcissistic empty vessels trying of fill themselves with material things, sometimes stolen things. Protectors are really hardworking and loyal employees, husbands, and fathers trying to earn a living for themselves and their families.
He's a remote viewer with a side interest in psychokinesis. Ask me how I know...
Total shout out to the hairstylist that solved the crime in minutes probably while doing someone’s hair with very stylish nails and loving warm personality.
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I've got problems...but I so far I haven't been on a Dr. Grande video (knocks on wood)
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My brother was a grad student at Drexel in 2006, and I was a Freshman at Lehigh University, which is just an hour north. I would go down to Philadelphia for weekend binge benders with him, and I can say with 95% certainty that I banged this crazy bitch after meeting her at Cavanaugh's. She was a smoke show, and off the chains in bed, but after post nut clarity had set in, her looming insanity became ever more apparent. Around 5AM, the weirdo would not sleep and kept telling me fantastical stories about her life that were obviously lies, so I told her I was going to the bathroom, snuck my phone and wallet in my boxers, and basically ran back to my brothers apartment. Ahhh, life before sobriety was soooo rich 😢
If I can give one piece of advice, be careful of the company you keep, I am from a middle class home , but made friends with the wrong kind of people, I started to behave like them, look like them , but eventually found my way back. My family had to intervene. It is very easy to follow the bad behaviour, especially when you are easily influenced as I was.
When I was a little girl, I stayed away from people who constantly did not have nice things to say about others. The discernment started then.
Don't know who influenced whom as they both came from a middle class background.
Proverbs 13:20 “The one walking with the wise will become wise, But the one who has dealings with the stupid will fare badly “
1 Corinthians 15:33 “Do not be misled. Bad associations spoil useful habits”
@@hopeausbyn1734 I agree! Those people will turn around and talk smack about you too as soon as your back is turned.
Bad company corrupts good character...
My favourite Dr. Grande leitmotif is the amazingly dry delivery of “one thing is for certain [person] would never do [X] again. In [year], [person] did [X] again.” Gets me every time. I know there’s a lot of love for his standard opener and closer, but this line is always a giver for me! 😂
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Hank Schrader: "Marie, you're a kleptomaniac!"
Marie Schrader: "Jesus, Hank, it's an Impulse Control Disorder!"
When I get dressed in the morning, I feel like I'm wearing a space suit walking on a different planet when I go outside. I'm a Gen X and it seems like it was soo much easier to make friends and trust people back in the 80s & 90s. Today, I feel I need to pay to get a complete background check on anyone I'm considering to have as a friend. Kinda depressing.
@@theglobalvagabond3074 I yourvimmaginetyhidyllicvpastvyou houldntvtellnif someone was worth trusting save by bitter experirnce
That is so true! Just dipped my toes in the dating pond and....... Hell nope, people are nutso!
True even in my age group and I’m much older. The world has changed. And not for the better.
Strictly speaking, this is untrue just based on statistics. Crime, especially violent crime, has spiked since the plandemic, but it still remains lower than it was during the 70s, 80s, and early 90s. Especially when compared to the crack epidemic. You were merely sheltered from this awareness, particularly in the pre-internet era, whereas today you are not.
In regards to friendship, however, you are correct. Research, as well as social polls and personal anecdotes, indicate people have fewer close friends than any other time prior. Particularly among young people. A staggering percentage of people - in some research, between 40 to 50% - report having no close friends whatsoever. Loneliness in general is higher than has ever been recorded. Many people describe it as “being alone in a crowd”.
No sympathy for that hugely narcissistic & entitled pair, I'll stay out of that wonderful world lol 😑🙄😬Great points again. Thanks Dr G😊💛💛
His boss figured out he pretended to be sick and went for vacations instead from his tan 😂😂😂 Yeah, they were going to be caught at some point. Not the kind of criminal masterminds that can cover their tracks.
I love Dr. Grande's sense of humor lmao
"Claimed she cheated on every boyfriend she had" odd boast
I don't think she was boasting
She was a beauty...
Only 4yrs?? Wow 😮 I would think they would have gotten at least 10.
Good lawyers.
Only poor people get sentences like that
they white and pretty. Say what you want, if they were black it will be something else.
@@DearDextra This is such BS! Everyone knows it's just the opposite. Every time a black murderer is caught, it turns out they have been arrested and released at least 10-20 times for far worse crimes than fraud.
@@DearDextralol u funny
Ed was a 'bit fake.' Jocelyn was an 'Olympic pole vaulter.'
How did you do that?😂
Great line.
She liked vaulting 'poles'😂
I bet she vaulted a pole alright.
I waa thinking Narcissistic for most of this video, so glad it appeared in the last minute. Self-entitled, lying about everything, creating false appearance of success, on and on.
What a creepy couple, scary what he did to hijack the internet of the whole apartment complex. Think about that for a moment or two and let your butt pucker up😢😂😂😂
Hope the other residents used good VPNs.
Great comment!
I feel bad for Ed's parents. They probably had high hopes for him as he was a great student.
I bet they hated that woman & couldn’t do anything to stop him from spiraling. So glad he fixed his life.
This was posted 13 minutes ago. Over 1K views, 100+ likes and 16 comments. Quite impressive.
Can I just say how proud I am rn that, I too am a Hair Stylist, & that seems to be the Hero of today's story. We're good people 😁😂❤
That Dr. Grande side-eye when he says “…in a situation like this” never fails! Every single video! Love it 😂
How do they get such light sentences for all those felonies??
White privilege.
The key is how much you are willing to spend on defense attorneys.
@@danielebrparish4271Money talks louder than justice and morals.
The key is having the complexion for protection.
@@nextbizzyis there data to support that statement??
I've been a subscriber to your channel for a while and one thing I have learned from your videos is that there is absolutely no limit to the level of selfishness, narcissism, immaturity, arrogance, greed, sense of entitlement and total contempt for others which some people will stoop to.
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ALL THAT and so little time served. It's a shank to the soul of poor criminals😢
I live a block away from where they lived...glad not in the same building.
Judges should always order restitution to their victims plus years in jail and mandated actual rehabilitation before allowing them to be released.
the woman sounds aspd/psychopathic and probably can't be rehabilitated.
The problem with that is they can't make money to pay restitution while in jail. Jail also has a corruptive nature to it which does far more harm than good. A better approach would be to give the defendant 90 days to find a legitimate job. They must maintain employment and regular monthly restitution payments to the victims or they will then go to jail. This would actually help to rehabilitate them by forcing them into some level of stability. Regular drug testing as well, including weed even if it's legal where they live. Folks like this guy would more than likely go with the program and get his life back together. Wack job on the other hand would never last and end up back in jail. My ex was a compulsive liar, always was, always will be. You're never going to 'fix' these sort people. The reality is we are what we are and what we're most likely to always be.
@@marcseclecticstuff9497 I guess there's never a perfect solution that works 100% of the time, huh? My previous situations were with minors where the judges ordered restitution. I learned the hard way in MN that they put the burden of tracking the offenders on the victim but don't even tell them up front. So once they're released, poof, it's really out of the GT's hands and you are screwed. I unfortunately had 2 cars stolen and even with them finding the thieves, the courts didn't do justice. I was truly struggling at the time and some how the judges and the laws saw the victims vs. justice for me. With situations like that it's too bad our system wouldn't provide me with a free attorney as a law abiding taxpayer and property owner. The juvenile thieves were lucky that morning that my preschool age daughter dressed in her snow gear had to go potty at the last minute, otherwise our baby boy would've already been strapped in the back seat and Got only knows what would've happened to him.
Very good commentary Dr. Grande. This story should be turned into a movie.
These people should not be let out ever … 100 percent they will do it again
the way he said "making ALMOST $65000" a year made me laugh out loud.
That is not a bad salary for an entry level position at 24 years of age. However, renting an apartment in Philly at $3,000/mo. is $36,000/yr. That is 55% of his gross pay. Without the ability to stick to a household budget, student loan payments, new cars and comprehensive auto insurance, breast enhancement surgeries and healthcare, dental work, eye and hair care, expensive trips, utilities, new clothes, etc., things could get dicey. To be clear, I am being sarcastic when I say, "How could they survive without stealing?"
2006
@@nanettevantriesteharder2469 it wasn’t the amount that made me laugh. It was the “almost” lol.
His eyes went waaaay to the side when saying "just speculating about what could be happening in a situation like this.." they must've been nuts!
Neither got enough prison time
Well, who are you to judge anyone?
@ shameronstar7220 I think anyone who hasn’t stolen from innocent people is 1000000% entitled to judge these people.
@@nyc1087 Don't act self-righteous. No one is perfect and you have dirt on your hands and skeletons in your closet too.
@@shameronstar7220 They put us on juries to judge so there's that. No self-righteousness. It is just justice/judging
@@shameronstar7220 I'm GigiRulesTheRoost! I can judge all day and all night if I want to, thank you very much. lol
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They are 2 scumbags they are NOT PAYING THE PRICE of their errors.
It is a bunch of bullsh*t.
Two thieves meet in the night the rest is legend. Thanks Dr. Grande.
I wonder what their jail time would have been like if they were a poor?
And POC.
@@chocolatethunder192they lived in Philly…
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I much prefer the mugshots to the social media pics. The true suffering of reality shows through in the best possible way.
I'm always amazed by how much different the beautiful women look in the mugshots!
This story reminded me of Better Call Saul where he and his girlfriend Kim start pulling scams on people
This woman sounds like a full-blown psychopath, not just a narcissist.
Cookie points for this excellent level of consistency, dr Grande. =)
Greetings to all fellow listeners from the Baltics.
Greetings from Nevada.
The sentences do seem light for both of them, the impact of theft , which has happened to me and fraud to a family member really shakes you up and gives you anxiety, it’s not a victimless crime . I do think it’s possible to feel complete remorse and rehabilitate from this crime however, and yes it does seem that the catalyst was meeting Jocelyn .
Can a dyed-in-the-wool narcissist, like Jocelyn, have empathy pathways that enable bidirectional love or is someone who loves a narcissist singularly doomed to unrequited love?
Massive scumbags!
Thank you, Dr. Cactus. Another great video.
You face at the Olympic pole vaulting team part made me crack up.
My sister in law stole from me. How low can you go. I could not prove it. I detest this woman and all thieves.
Dr. Grande mentions the effect this had on their families. What was not mentioned was how much trouble you go through when your identity is stolen. It takes years to straighten things out. I think this caused more trouble for the victims than for the families.
I remember these people. It was a big deal in Philly area.
Yeah, like there isn't worse things going on in Philly.
@@25Soupy I guess those things aren't interesting enough.
All of life's advantages mean nothing if one's instinct is to steal.
That sounds like an awful lot of work and a full-time job just to swindle over 100 K. If he had applied himself in the corporate world, he would've made well over that in a single year all legally. Idiots
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You’ve been analyzed!!
Or at least speculated about!
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It’s amazing how different the booking mugshots look from the photos of them living the high life. I’m surprised they avoided federal tax evasion charges.
This woman like so many others held the golden key to wealth and success. She just lacked the mental intelligence to know how to put the key in the locked door.
You mean how to open an OnlyFans account 🙂
I had a colleague who was intelligent, eloquent, informed, knowledgeable - and a klepto, as the rest of us found out soon after he started working with us. It seems like a paradox, but intelligence just doesn't trump this desire to take what's not theirs. They see the world differently. I remember we were once in the office and he noticed a US passport left on someone's desk. His first reaction was, "That'd be worth a bit!" Who thinks like that? Sly as a rat.
I was not familiar with this case.
Thank you for your analysis, Dr. Grande!
I am glad no one was physically harmed in this video. If only all crimes were committed by narcisists
She sounds like she's one step away from being a psychopath.... definitely dangerous.
One step away? She sounds like a full blown psychopath.
How dumb to believe their pin numbers were the same! 🙄
As unlikely as that is (1 in 10,000) it's less likely than "we must have switched cards." How would that ever happen?
But people are dumb. Even so called smart people.
Thanks Dr Grande.
The burglaries and frauds, the very sketchy neighbors we all were afraid of moving in the neighborhood.
Thank you again Dr. Grande 🙏
They got off real easy. Why? They are highly untrustworthy.
White collar crime is rarely punished to any real extent, it doesn't even hamper their careers, as many corporations like hiring corrupt people.
If they had to pay back the money they stole, then such crime would be stopped!
I googled both. Edward Anderton is actually currently a business manager at a PNW consulting firm and has gotten married. His resume didn't sound shabby after his imprisonment, he's worked for Microsoft at one point too.
Yeah. Most corporations love to have corrupt thieves working for them, and judges tend to be quite sympathetic, being prone to various schemes themselves.
My Mothers ESCROW company, did the very same thing to her. Someone at OCWEN stole her info, and got a Capitol One card, sent to Florida, when my Mother has lived in the same house in another state for 65 years.
That tells me it was PLANNED, BETWEEN 2 people, one from each company. Because credit card companies wont just send a card to any address.
Astounding. Great job, as usual, Dr. Grande!
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The shot of their apartment building, looks very similar to the cover of Led Zeppelin's "Physical Graffiti" album
The crime aside, what strikes me is how cheap everything was back then! Only 3K for a luxury apartment? 65K a year is poverty now actually, in all seriousness. The current state of the economy is really sad and devastating
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I had a friend like this. She kept walking out the door with something new every time, even when I caught her every time. Like she laughed about it like it was normal. She also lived with a guy who was SA ing her 10 year old daughter, and she laughed about that as well. I just don't get people like this.
What in the world is SA ing?
I hope you called the police on the guy.
@@tombryant52jumpscoach You can't say s#xual assault on RUclips in the comments, so a lot of people just say SA. It's what the guy was doing, so I said SAing. It's ridiculous, I know, but it's what people are reduced to doing now.
@@TianXiaoMao Yes, about eight of us called the police on the guy, led by the girl's older sister. Unfortunately, the man is super charming. Even I believed him at first. The little girl was afraid to say anything because her mother talked her into thinking that she 'wanted it." That's what I mean, her own mother. Her sister told the cops what she had seen, but nobody backed her up, and there was no evidence, so nothing happened to the guy. The girl lived with her sister after that, though.
On what basis did you call her your friend?
Imagine working two jobs and doing everything in your power to ensure your child gets a good education and the chance at a bright future - and then realizing he ended up making a living as a full-time criminal stealing from neighbours and friends, and defrauding countless people. I would be utterly heartbroken.
A narcissist with an impressive bust gets a simp busted.
Old habits die hard.
I dated a klepto once. He broke into my car through a window to steal my purse to go gamble at Caesars. He left my purse and other ID so I knew something was up.
But your honor, all this theft from friends and neighbors is caused by PTSD!
Defense lawyers will claim anything in order to get their clients off the hook. Extravagant living, stealing, and identity theft are not characteristics of PTSD.
"Powerless against her beauty" really??? And she "Unlocked his inner narcissist " nothing like removing all responsibility from the man because of a woman's Beauty.
We can't actually expect men to take responsibility for their own actions around beautiful women - that would be silly!!
Why make this into a fourth-wave feminist case of misandry? Of the two, he was the most responsible one before and after he met her, while she, narcissist that she permanently is, continued committing crimes.
@nanettevantriesteharder2469 it was more about Dr Grande's claim that he was "powerless against her beauty" I think that's kind of a ridiculous thing to claim and removes any power or self-determination from the man.
@@LastariOo Perhaps you are right. I think it is more likely Dr. Grande's often dry sense of humor.
Wow! Unbelievable lack of empathy. Psychopaths.
I was thinking, as Dr. Grande was listing all of Jocelyn’s lies about speaking 11 languages and being an Olympic level pole vaulter, that she’s exactly the type of person who falsely claims she has cancer in order to gain attention from friends and family…but at least she didn’t stoop that low. But then, in the next sentence, I hear she DID falsely claim to have ovarian cancer!🤦🏻♀️ Ok, she’s officially the absolute worst of the worst.
Just goes to show - you can't trust anyone!
So true.
I worked with a guy who called in "sick" for several days. But was foolish enough to post updates on his FB showing pictures on the beach in El Nido, along with time-stamped comments about having a blast in the Phils. Boss didn't call him out, let him come back to work. Only then was he informed that he was permanently on vacation.
A shameless pair of thieves. Sentences were too light.
I like this vid. Good insight and Great analysis.