Obsessed Man Secretly Records Coworker Before Executing 'Perfect Murder' | Morgan Fox Case Analysis
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I had a stalker. I used to care for a neighborhood cat colony on a commercial property. He would watch me from the bike path, and come up behind me while i was caring for the cats. I'd go to the drugstore, he would show up. I confronted him, he said he was going out of town for contract work.
Then, for 3 years in a row, at totally different grocery stores, the day before Thanksgiving, he would creep up on me. Clearly, this was not coincidental. I was really, really spooked.
I had my mechanic put my car on a lift, and he found a tracker.
If any of this sounds familiar to any man or woman, check your car. These people are not only sick, but persistent.
I hope he eventually left you alone. So scary
Scary
You didn't mention it, so I assume you didn't pursue charges, which were clearly warranted. It would easy for police to get account information associated with the tracking device.
Also, did your phone ever go missing only to be found later? Make sure that it wasn't cloned or otherwise hacked. Make sure your social media accounts and other online accounts have strong passwords so that they don't get hacked, either.
@@jrvane11 I didn't go to the police- I should have.
Tired of people not taking stalking behaviour seriously.
Me too
people who? you mean the police? who else is supposed to do anything about it?
@@carlholland3819uh yeah? Police don’t give a shit until someone is dead when it comes to stalking. They should care and they don’t. That’s pretty tiring if you ask me.
@@Hekeepblessingme Its the law they work with. They only have certain and mostly limited powers when it comes to stalking. Maybe lobby your local MP/Government, that would actually be giving a shit.
@@scootvirtual5609 or people just shouldn’t be stalking other people, period 😭😭😭 and if they do, they should be arrested for it. This scenario just encourages people that are victims of this heinous behavior have to do all of the work, instead of correcting and disciplining the people that are committing the crimes.
As someone who’s been stalked to the point of needing a police escort to my car/home, I can tell you right now they don’t give a shit. And to imply that I should go lobby my government for them to give a shit as if I don’t give a shit already, is laughable. Why would I go try (as one human being) to convince the same people that couldn’t help me in the past to change shit…
The only thing that has helped me is public humiliation and exposing the dangers of that person on social media. I also quit my job, moved to another state, got a new car and license plate, etc. Sometimes public humiliation and warning the general public around you of the dangers of that person is helping more For other potential victims, then Police ever give.
Imagine him giving a toy to a little girl, at her mother's funeral, telling her that she's beautiful as her mom; all the while he was the one, who pulled the trigger...
🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮
Hearing that was just awful. What an evil person.
Plus he told he she mustn’t forget him.
@@kellydalstok8900 great observation. How monstrous one could be. Human beings, we have no limits for evil. It's almost unbelievable. Pardon my futile and cheap virtue signaling, as well as my unsolicited small rant.
Some balls
This guy was in his own delusional world. His actions from living in a creepy fantasy life instead of the real world killed that poor woman. He destroyed multiple lives, not to mention the little girl who will now grow up without her Mama.
Thank you for your measured analysis, Dr G, you are the GOAT!
OH YEAH she had a child,, Jesus.. she WAS strikingly cute,, seems these psychos always pick someone so out of their league they're BOUND to fail... Not specifically about appearance but about,, she seemed very responsible and he was living in fantasy,, if he woulda picked another lady who was also sorta crazy it probably would have been better... They coulda made stuff up about each other,, wth right...
@micnorton9487 if you see unfiltered photos of both of them, I don't see a vast gap between them at all. His issues were entirely personality, obsession and not having been properly guided about what women find attractive and how people tend to act in these situations.
@@theflyingkaramazovbrothers6 .. I was referring to the difference in personality...
@@micnorton9487 "she was strikingly cute,, seems these lovers always pick someone so out of their league"
You can see why anyone else would not see clearly that you were talking about personalities?
*What does it mean by "you are the GOAT."*
How much affection can there be when you kill the one you care for? She had a daughter and a life of her own! These selfish monsters create a fake fantasy world and then protect their creation even if they have to murder to protect it! Very sick!
perfectly summed up
It's more about control and ownership
Elliot Rodger had the same delusions.
@@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cgthe FANTASY is about control because it’s a FaNTASY.
To the " men" on here saying disrespectful things about this poor young woman being " not that hot" "just a single mother"
Wow. How were you raised?
You are no better than the creep who did this. A lovely young woman like her wouldn't have looked at any of you sideways. You should be ashamed of your utter disrespect towards a young victim of horrible acts, but i doubt you have the intellect nor empathy.
They have mommy issues, for sure. Gross.
Scrolling through the comments haven't seen any of those type of comments and I've scrolled far down the page. Are sure you aren't seeing things?
@@RockLibertyWarrior
I havent seen those comments either.
Same. However, maybe she reported the post.
Lol triggered
The most dangerous time of a stalker behavior , he acts as if he has a relationship with the person he stalks. Good to know.
Cannot tell what you are trying to say.
@@heidiespinoza6786 I once had a friend who fell in love with Keven Costner after she watched the film, "Dancing With Wolves." She created this fantasy in which they would get married and own a mansion together to take care of orphans. She ran a state-licensed daycare at the time, in which my son was placed. She had been recommended to me by a Head Start teacher at the elementary school across the road. After she lived in a duplex, placed security cameras inside and outside, acquired a loaded rifle, slept in her closet, and scared the hell out of me by threatening to burn down my family's home in a letter because she was extremely paranoid about her family placing her in psychiatric hold and taking her house from her. She was eventually diagnosed with Delusional Disorder in the mental health hospital into which she was involuntarily incarcerated. I stay away from her now but she has hundreds of friends on Facebook who probably do not suspect that she may still be a threat to herself and others.
He must have had some relationship to her she invited him to her daughters birthday party which is kind of strange
@@eadweard...look up the movie "Play Misty For Me",, where Clint Eastwood is a radio disc jockey, who works the late night shift and starts getting calls by an obsessive woman... She always wants him to play misty, and he stupidly gets involved with her, and he finds out she is totally schizophrenic...... She thinks that they're in love,, going to get married,, one house two cars 2 1/3 kids picket fence one cat 1/2 dog you know the story... Have to look up the one with Michael Douglas and Glenn close, I can't remember the name of it but it's pretty similar.......
FATAL ATTRACTION,, right...
This kind of stalking describes the stalking of my husband and family by a former healthcare provider to our daughter to a T. There's nothing more frightening than the moment you realize the psychopathic things a casual acquaintance has done behind your back for years. Even when they don't murder, they alter the landscape of their victims' lives irrevocably.
A HEALTHCARE provider? Please do tell...
Whoa!!!!😮 I need some details please 🙏. This sounds really interesting. How well did u know the person? What tipped you off in the end?
I had a stalker. He eventually stopped on his own accord. It was really scary. What kinds of things did this scary healthcare person do to stalk? It’s especially unnerving because they have all your private information.
@@micnorton9487No! 🤢🤮🤮🤮
What happened?
What a creep! He reminds me of the the completely delusional train wreck of a person who killed Christina Grimmie. This is also a good example of why you should alter your routine especially if you are vulnerable during any point of your day. That wasn't the only night Jason was at her house at 2 am.
Me too. Also reminds me of 17 year d Riley Whitelaw who was stabbed 28 times in the break room by her 28 year old coworker at Walgreens. Prior to her death, she had reported her killer to management, saying he made her feel uncomfortable and that he’d made unwarranted advances toward her. She had requested a work schedule to avoid him, but their schedules overlapped when she requested to work more hours. He should’ve been fired after sexually harassing a teenager!
@@DottieMinervahe should've been in jail sooner. She's 17, he's 28?? He's not just a murderer, he's a groomer too.
😂creep? That means a man who’s unattractive to you…
How about the correct word like murderer, evil murdered, wretched murderer ect?
I once had a creepy romantic stalker for a few years..scariest time of my life ,cause no one , especially not the police can help you..
thankfully I have a very irregular work & life schedule as a flight attendant & it simply wore him out with time, as he could never encounter me at the same times or follow my routine..that practically saved my life...he still sends wierd messages per hand written letter ,every couple years, these creeps NEVER stop, but has now mostly moved on..I advise victims to not show any signs of a regular routine that these creeps can easily follow..God bless to all the ladies out there..we go through a lot..❤️🖤
Guess my adhd is kryptonite to stalkers 😅 I can’t keep a routine to save my life…but it might save my life someday
A woman stalker can be more dangerous. Most don't look at them as threatening.
Boss babes can stalk as well........more and more of those around these days.
Thank you for your analysis of this tragic case Dr. Grande. It’s interesting how Jason had to text Morgan to let her know he knew where she was right before killing her. He was over confident and got caught, but probably enjoyed putting the scare in her before ending her life. Creepy is the right word!
When someone shows you who they are BELIEVE them. Girls watch your back! Where’s your defense? Get one!
@leighleigh8725 Jason was incapable of having a healthy relationship with Morgan. After being rejected by her, he dispensed with her in the worst way imaginable, by killing her. Morgan was and will remain irreplaceable. Jason, on the other hand, will always be a murderer who succeeding in taking an innocent life.
Too bad nobody told her or she did not realize Jason was obsessing about her and stalking her.
@leighleigh8725 Her co-workers also failed her. They should have been open with her about creepy guy's behavior and obsession. Lesson learned. I will tell anyone I think is in that situation from now on.
It's unfortunate that she Morgan did not immediately contact authorities when Creep traced her travels.
I had a friend once. She was intelligent, had a great job, married with 2 kids she adored and a great personality. We met in a class and became instant friends. Then things got weird, although it took a while. She started talking about a colleague - how there was this romantic vibe between them and then later a sexual tension. She would describe - in great detail - 1-minute encounters that would take her an hour to describe. I started to doubt that her feelings were being reciprocated. We would have lunch and the entire time was taken up by her description of, in reality, inconsequential encounters as filled with meaning: there were great longings between them; eyes across the room filled with longing on both their parts. Then she started describing him describing trips with his wife; going skiing with his wife; their purchase of a country property. In my mind, I realized that she was obsessed with someone who was making it clear that he was in love with his wife, not her. One day she called me hysterical and I met her! She was acting insane. I tried to talk her down that maybe the mutual attraction was all in her head. The long point I’m making is that I didn’t know her for a long time but at first I believed there was a mutual attraction. And then all the evidence she presented were a 20-second encounter here, a glance there. Alarmingly, I had to convince her NOT to talk about her feelings to him as she thought that they were both fighting the urge to consummate their “relationship”. There was no relationship, only her obsession, I realized. When I realized this and tried to gently dissuaded from doing anything stupid that would ruin many lives like the action above, she dumped me. I never heard and from her again. Obviously she couldn’t talk to her co-workers, as Jason did: she was a high-level person in her job. I probably was the only person she could vent to. I consider myself a discerning person but I really thought, at first, that the infatuation was mutual. It was truly scary watching her obsession grow.. And even more scary when she was a brick wall when I tired to provide other theories to the man’s actions: he obviously was - gently - trying to send messages he wasn’t interested! What was worse is that she used me and I didn’t see it, at first. I learned a good lesson over that time.
People are soooo dumb and messed up nowadays. Granted, the world has always been a messed up place but the 2020s have been something else entirely.
That’s because you didn’t live in past barbaric ages but yup humanity hasn’t changed much
IKR!..I'm young but I think I'd love to live in the old days..even just the 80s ..hate the world NOW
Social media doesn't help either.
Hurt people hurt people
Instant news didn't happen until the modern era. People have always been like this.
This is awful. What a psycho. The state did him a favor by running his 180 concurrently with his life w/o.
This guy sounds like an Autistic Spectrum type with antisocial personality features!
I can't tell you what the guy was like. Someday you might learn the hard way that when the police want somebody for something the police report is going to be a bunch of bullshit. There is no physical evidence here. Every time I look into a case of an innocent person being sent to prison then released from prison I'll look at the witness statements and police report and find uot it was a bunch of bullshit. Want a great example? Clarence Elkins. There was more evidence that he didn't do it then if he did. They had a 6 year old witness. Look up the story that the press reported. THEN!!!!!!!!!! Checkout what the police fed everybody. Don't believe everything you hear from the press.
Concurrent means both sentences run together, consecutive means he would have to finish one sentence then begin the other one. Making a sentence consecutive is the harsher of the two.🙂
I've been stalked and faced harassment from a colleague in the past..I'm a student and it was just a part time job..but I needed the money but completely felt the need to leave in the end..I was terrified
That’s why the older coworkers should’ve reported him. I’m shocked they didn’t. And on top of that two other coworkers went through her phone! That workplace environment seems to have promoted this.
@@DottieMinerva.. yes! my youngest had a creepy guy showing up at work. Nobody backer her. She left. All family became involved & watched her back. it eventually passed. very disturbing.
If it happens again, make notes , find a supportive co worker and go to the HR dept. Make sure this isn't just flirting though.
It's not part of ghe job.
Most work places have zero tolerance policies, the work place is supposed to be a safe place. This is why secretaries began suing thier bosses.
@@emmapeel8163 everybody is a creep to the tictok generation since they dont have interpersonal communication
Nothing will make a woman hate and fear you like stealing her private photos. What a psycho.
True enough. He was way out of line, but I find it kinda strange she kept nude photos of herself on her phone. Very strange behavior in my book.
@@ricktyuio283it really isn’t. Many people do. What are you insinuating?
@@ichabodcrane9479 guess I’m insinuating that if you immerse yourself so completely in a sensual world, don’t be surprised if attract some wrong people. I understand her beauty alone is gonna attract all sorts, but if she’s running around with naked pics of herself, that says something about her default nature. It’s very likely that ‘play girl’ behavior is what attracted this nut in the first place.
@@ichabodcrane9479 oh and because many people do something doesn’t make it smart or right. That’s kind of how our country has spun so far out of control.
@@ricktyuio283 I never said it was smart or right. However many young people do that, so it isn’t “strange”.
And I still don’t know what that has to do with the guys terrible crimes? He did it because she had nude photos in her phone? You said “he was out of line BUT…” So again, what are you insinuating?
This world is darker and more evil than most people are willing to admit. And if you think it’s gonna get better…you need to be very careful. It will only keep escalating. Prayers for the grieving. 🙏🏼
I live in that city and I can’t tell you how much this tragedy rocked the whole area. The cruel reality was horrifying….senseless and evil
There needs to be much more information out there about stalking and the different kinds of stalkers. I can't tell you from experience, that not even close to enough people truly understand how awful and dangerous it is. So many stalking victims do not get much help, if any at all. People generally don't even want to hear about it, much less step in and help. The cops don't do enough either. All this adds to the awfulness. A very high percentage of women who have been killed by men were stalked beforehand. I know that men get stalked as well, but far less than women. I truly hope that people take it more seriously when they hear that a friend or loved one is being stalked
This is horrific, poor Morgan. I'm so sorry to her family and loved ones. Whatever happens to her delusional murderer will he too good for him!
Oh God I just finished the video and now I feel like crying my eyes out. 😢 That poor young woman.
@@nahtesalinas1917..agree it's just insanely tragic,, this little jerk going through her phone was sickening, I'm wondering why she had private pictures of herself on her phone but ow and this delusional guy got what he deserves... Other states it would be curtains,, especially now that DP states get their lethally effective stuff straight from China,, maybe even fentanyl who knows...
@@micnorton9487 Killing criminals makes you a murderer too. It’s barbaric.
@@kellydalstok8900 Your head is just as messed up as the murderer in this case.
@@kellydalstok8900 .. I don't agree with capital punishment......
Fixation is more common than you think. Human Resources should be notified if at work. Dont take anything from the stalker no matter how innocent that you think it is. I have seen this kind of Fixation from Men and Women, it not natural just as in this case. Dont ignore it, as it wont just go away.
Anyone washing a car in the rain is deeply sus...
I have done that to save from needing a car wash do it in teh drive drive into the garage and towel dry. Works good as long as car is relatively clean no mud and gunk. The rain is a pre-soak cycle.
My indian neighbor park their car in the rain for free car wash everytime it rain
@@Derpherppington Tell your paan masala neighbor that don't really work, though they think it is. It will look shitty after 1+ years. If that truly works, we would just skip car washes & leave it outside. It would put companies like Meguiar, TurtleWax out of business & Autozone, O'Reilly, Pep Boys shelves be empty.
I used to work at a car wash...Either 10% of the population of Iron Mountain, Michigan are "sus", if not outright murderers... Or it's just something some people do...
@traybernHe washed his car a gas station drive thru car wash, he didn’t save any money.
8:00 - I agree that the case against Jason was circumstantial. However, it was far from weak. It's a commonly-held myth that circumstantial evidence is not enough to prove beyone a reasonable doubt. In fact, circumstantial evidence can be much stronger than eyewitness evidence.
It's so sad that Morgan's life had to intersect with that of an animal like Jason.
It can be. But it wasn't in this case.
Besides Jason being a creep, what evidence is there? There’s no physical evidence. No eyewitnesses. No video. No murder weapon. The bullets used didn’t match the bullets Jason had accesses too. Jason had no gun residue on him. The video of a similar looking car and tire track test is very weak. In my opinion, everyone thinks Jason is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt based solely on his creepy behavior!
@@michaelperez9966maybe he should've been less of a creep.
@@Oreo-gd2zqI agree, but someone shouldn’t be convicted of a crime based on their creepiness.
Any male in this comment section saying he wasn't guilty should probably be investigated too.
Jason would have killed Morgan even if she went on dates with him and slept with him. Men will always hit on a woman who looks like Morgan. Jason would be too insecure to handle that. He'd get jealous and enraged and shoot her just the same. He might have killed her daughter too. And if Morgan wasn't the object of his ardor, some other unlucky lady would be.
This reminds me of 17 year old Riley Whitelaw who was stabbed 28 times in the break room by her 28 year old coworker at Walgreens.
Prior to her death, she had reported her killer to management, saying he made her feel uncomfortable and that he’d made unwarranted advances toward her. She had requested a work schedule to avoid him, but their schedules overlapped when she requested to work more hours. He should’ve been fired after sexually harassing a teenager and not working there at all.
Yup he blocked cameras with boxes. So there wouldn't be any video
This murderous creep is a detestable person. He behaved in an obsequious way in the hope of advancing his sick obsession focused upon Morgan and later her daughter. I do not know what type of text messages and photos were on Morgan's cell phone but they obviously piqued his lustful thoughts about her. Sexually suggestive content in the evil mind of an intimacy stalker is a motivation to kill in a total lack of empathy and remorse. Pornography just fuels the fire to possess the object of his desire. His prison sentence could not be long enough for me. Yes. Women can be capable of this mindset too. The hideous character played by Glenn Close in the film "Fatal Attraction" and by the dark character played by Jessica Walter in the film "Play Misty for Me" are prime examples.
EXACTLY,, also the more recent movie obsession about some crazy blonde girl who develops this insatiable crush for this black dude who is her boss at work,, this one makes both Play Misty For me and fatal Attraction look pretty tame... and while yeah the weirdos who do this stuff probably watch p*rn,, that's like saying potatoes make you fat because fat people eat potatoes,, and p*rn usually makes people who may become stressed over lack of s*x less stressed for obvious reasons... Js...
@@micnorton9487 Desensitization and objectification by means of sex trafficking of female and/or male prostitutes and their images in pornography goes hand in glove with a lack of empathy, which is why risk-taking dark tetrad murderers use and abuse them to get their rocks off. Like all addictive behaviors, a person can build up a tolerance for it, such that it has to be done with more and more frequency to get the job done. At some point, with men, erectile dysfunction sets in and they have to take little blue pills. At some point, with women, frigidity sets in and they are no longer interested in sex. My Master of Public Health specialty is in Social and Behavioral Sciences. So, even though I am not an expert in sex therapy, I am not exactly clueless about subject matter topics with which I am familiar.
Women can become obsessed. Men killing women they are obsessed with far outweigh women. We are prey to their sick sexual urges.
Yes we know how common Glenn Close and Jessica Walter characters are 🙄
Somebody got a dictionary for their birthday!
Simple rule. NEVER let anyone take explicit photographs of you. And certainly don't take them yourself. They will never come back to haunt you if they are never taken in the first place.
Some take photos of you while you are unaware or deliberately knocked out.
@@MozBizResources Do you allow them to do that? No? Ok, what I said still stands. People who take photos Illegally should be reported to authorities.
also dont use any digital cameras since those can be hacked. also dont ever get naked or do anything explicit unless youre in a faraday cage
I think the photos are the least relevant part of this entire story 🤦🏼♂️
@@tastewithjase That's true! But that has always been one of my rants and I think it just popped out when I heard this story.
When I was younger I had a coworker obsessed with me. This video brought back scary memories but this poor girl was murdered. Guy I knew began texting me non stop and showing up to my house. When I asked him to stop he started parking across from my house. I called the police but he kept doing it. He was fired from the hospital we worked at, for an unrelated issue but still stalked. He wrote on my house door, left notes on my car and told a mutual friend he was going to rape and kill me. I moved to Colorado the following month but 15 yrs later I still worry. There's been a few ways he has tried to msg me over the yrs, the last time was almost one year ago. People can definitely be psycho. My heart goes out to this woman's family, he had no right to murder her. Thank you for another great analysis, Dr. Grande!!❤
Crazy!!
Wow
That is scary and crazy.
@@countdown2xstacy yeah it was. You never know how far one person will go. I was always nice to him, I still don't know why he flipped out on me. Whole situation was so strange.
@@roxannespahr2804
You’re definitely lucky.
We all try to be nice to everyone, but man, can that backfire on some people.
Glad everything turned out okay for you.
@@countdown2xstacy if a guys being nice he wants to date. if you are being nice back he thinks you want to date. if you dont want to date just tell him up front instead of leading him on
Blah. This case gives me flashbacks. I used to be a corporate trainer, and one of my duties--my least favorite--was training classes of new employees. HR tried to sift the worst of the weirdos in the hiring process, but it seemed like nearly every class would include some limp dick loser who would get creepy on a female classmate. Usually a young, blonde, female classmate just like in this case. At least none of the ones I had to deal with killed anyone. Not when they were my problem, anyhow; I wouldn't have put it past a few of them.
Our 21 yo daughter is a beautiful blonde. She can barely go anywhere without some man coming up to her. It’s awful for her and her parents. It’s not just blondes. It’s women of all colors. Men just need to learn to leave women alone.
@@salishseas would she rather be ugly and never get hit on? You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
Oh okay.🙄
Allow me explain to you something that you obviously do not understand, judging by that stupid comment....
Women DO NOT enjoy being ogled and hit on by randoms
when they're out going about their business.
That sort of approach is NOT EVER taken as a compliment because it's rude and embarrassing to be approached by strangers who apparently have zero boundaries and are unable to 'read the play',
ie, "Urgh, yeah thanks dude, can you please fk off now?".
😐
I am young and blonde coincidentally, but I ended up quitting my job due to a coworker who felt entitled to me to the point of bullying and yelling at me when I talked about my boyfriend. I loved the job but some people just make your life hell. I would take bathroom breaks just to cry. These men don’t realize the consequences of their delusions
@Lauren-bd2fr Just ignore them?
What a nightmare. So sorry for her and her family. I have a daughter so close in age and this type of scenario drives me insane
I’m 27 but when I was in 2nd grade I vividly remember a kid named Melvin who always made me feel uncomfortable. Melvin smelled and played with my hair when I wasn’t looking, he would sometimes put pencils up my skirt when I was in line at school, & he always made me feel like I wasn’t safe. And we were KIDS. He always said I was his girlfriend and insisted it to the point I cried to the teacher. Long story short school ended and I never saw Melvin again. Sometimes I wonder if kids like Melvin grow up to be like Jason. The feeling I had at 8 was super scary. Idk
LOL seeing as how Melvin was 7 when he was doing this, I doubt it. He probably just liked you and didn't know how to handle it.
I'm sure Melvin has grown into a legit Chad now. You really missed out.
@@scottandrews947 Girls had to wear dresses in my generation up to high school There was a boy in elementary school who liked lying on the floor under the white ceramic children's water fountains attached to the walls in the school's hallways to look up girls' dresses. The brain is formed during critical growth periods of the developmental life span from womb to tomb. Those growth periods are most numerous during fetal and early childhood development. So, exposure to external and internal concentrations of environmental toxins, like high levels of cortisol mediating the trauma of domestic violence during and after pregnancy and child abuse and neglect have profound effects down the road. Dysfunctional epigenetic lifestyle patterns of interpersonal behavior are taught and learned across generations. So, without some kind of intervention at the individual level, a weird young kid will probably end up as a weird adult who is shunned and then isolated from his/her peers (e.g., 1994 Fairchild AFB shooter Airman Dean Mellberg). Ted Bundy is a prime example of someone who looked like a so-called "Chad" in adulthood but was absolutely not. Unfortunately, too often civilian hiring managers and military recruiters interviewing commissioned and non-commissioned job candidates confuse dark tetrad traits as indicators of self-confident leadership characteristics. The narcissistic pilot of the 1994 B52H that crashed at Fairchild AFB just days after the shooting was considered a "Chad," too.
@@nanettevantriesteharder2469 That's way too long to read without paragraphs.
But Ted Bundy was a legit Chad. He had tons of women throwing themselves at him (even after they knew what he did). He didn't come off as creepy at all. Bad example.
wut happen wit africa?
Horrible situation for you to go through as a child. Some wrong uns are that way from very early days, glad the school safeguarded you but it’s clear how much of an impact / how traumatic that was for you ❤
Such a scary story. The problem is that most people don’t anticipate murder from admirers or from rejected lovers. Really sad case.
Thank you for the review, Dr. Grande.❤
Well they better start anticipatin'
TRUST NO ONE!
@@spirit13the1st6 not trusting ANYONE is not a healthy way to live your life.
@@kellydalstok8900 maybe I'll change that to " never assume anything "
@@spirit13the1st6 or always assume anything
i dont know, there is so many cases of rejected boyfriends, ex-husbands doing this, daily world wide such cases, a ex-husband , boyfriends are the most dangerous ones when the woman breaks up the relationship,
Dr. G, would you consider covering Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar? I am interested to hear your speculations about a situation like theirs (😉) in which parents choose to save face by covering up the crimes of one child at the expense of the safety of their other children. Of course, it has come out in recent years that Josh Duggar sexually abused four of his younger sisters as well as a babysitter when he was a teenager. He was never properly punished for this crime, and his parents made the daughters publicly forgive and defend Josh to protect the family’s image as pious Christians.
Edited for a typo.
👇🏽 anyone else?
As a not so pious Christian, I am not ashamed of the gospel (Romans 1:16), but, as a fruit inspector of myself and my professing brothers and sisters in Christ, I am ashamed whenever it is misused (Galatians 5:22-23; 1 Corinthians 13). A personal relationship with the forgiving God of the Bible enables that forgiveness to be willingly shared by individual believers with others under the Golden Rule (John 3:16-17; Matthew 7:12). Although a person can become convicted of his or her own failure in thought, word, and deed to live up to every jot and tittle of the law (Exodus 20), which leads to an influential U-turn of repentance back to the person of the Father's face to ask for forgiveness as a prodigal son or daughter, forgiveness must be willingly shared with others and is not intended to be coerced, under free will (Luke 15 & 23:34; Mark 11:25; Acts 7). There are consequences for sin in this life, which may or may not lead to prison time. Josh Duggar is a sexual predator who, in my opinion, deserves life in prison to protect the public interests of our society. His parents should have never covered up for him.
@@nanettevantriesteharder2469oh brother.
And how the kids never got paid...
She must have been an open soul allowing all into her sphere innocently but possibly a pattern of thinking all people are basically good. Sadly they aren’t. Girls wake up and be safe💜
Agree
Why he would be invited to the daughter's birthday party? Separate friends from coworkers.
@@mangafq8 They were friends _and_ coworkers.
Idiots will be idiots.
I have a couple of questions:
1. Dr Grande says that several men were pursuing Morgan. Given that Morgan had a boyfriend, this means several guys were transgressing her boundaries. Were I in her position, I would find this quite anxiety-provoking. Is this a common problem for pretty women? If so, does this influence how they perceive guys?
2. I also wonder - did Morgan's employer address Jason's behaviour? What are the employer's legal and ethical obligations in this case?
Speaking as a former pretty girl in high school, I was hit on a lot and I can count several occasions when peers or even older coworkers (men in their twenties when I was only 16-17) were inappropriate with me and while yes it did make me uncomfortable, I was too shy to say or do anything until one day when I was at school preparing for an event our Spanish class was putting on, a boy cornered me in a closet and sexually assaulted me. To this day it haunts me. There’s also a man who I used to be friends with (before he became weird) that used to be fairly normal, as he got older he started having really bad hygiene and so people eventually stopped interacting with him and I think he just became lonely, but for the last 5-10 ish years he has made various fake Instagram accounts occasionally messaging me and telling me awful things, all anonymously but I knew it was him. How he would follow me in the hallways at school and collect any of my hairs that fell out and put them in his pants, how when I got married his fantasies got even better because I was married to someone else, asking to pay me for pictures of my body, being creepy on pictures on my social media where my feet are in the picture. I haven’t heard from him in probably about a year now, and I was friends with him in highschool roughly 10 years ago but didn’t have contact with him after that and yet he’s still looming in the background. He’s done this to multiple previous coworkers of mine because we worked in the same building just for a different business. Scary. It definitely makes me worried about other men. Worried when I start dating men (I got divorced, it just didn’t work out for me) that they will end up being creepy. I’m definitely hyper vigilant of men and advances towards me.
Pretty women are sitting ducks for dangerous men with bad intentions.
Because I have been trained and educated in Basic and Advanced Leadership in the US military, have been assessed as a Transformational Servant Leader over the course of my MPH, and have years of experience as a supervisor, etc., I may be able to help you and Dr. Grande out with your questions. In answer to Q1: Yes. Yes. In answer to Q2: I do not know. So, Dr. Grande may be able to answer that one for you. However, the FedEx Human Resources Department should have already had a legal and ethical no tolerance policy for sexual harassment on and off the job site in either cases of a) a quid pro quo relationship between a subordinate and a superior or b) a pervasively hostile work environment. However, the problem with claiming quid pro quo in this case is that there was no imbalance of power, since she did nothing to check his career advancement and had previously befriended him as new colleague. He did create a hostile work environment for her in going through her unlocked and unattended cell phone messages and pictures with a coworker and in making her feel uncomfortable by spreading rumors amongst her friends and coworkers that the two of them were in some kind of an intimate sexual relationship when she already had a baby daughter and a boyfriend. Thus, he was attempting to ruin her otherwise good reputation, possibly to drive away his rivals in making her look less desirable to them. Of course, being a jerk in doing so would make her disgusted with him. She blocked him. He could not take her justifiable reaction to his gross behavior. So, in his deluded state, he killed her. It reminds me of The Doobie Brothers lyrics to "What a Fool Believes."
@@bearsbeetsbattlestargalactica6 I'm really sorry that you've had those experiences. Those stories that you've just revealed are awful. I can imagine those would change your perception of men and your interactions. I guess a guy with money or a good body can hide those until he's with a girl who he already knows but a pretty girl will inadvertently attract every guy, regardless of how creepy or unattractive the guy is. I never understood the girl's perspective.
@@nanettevantriesteharder2469 My take away message from what you've written is that formal policies / procedures for dealing with harmful behaviours will protect some people but that we also need to be prepared to deal with situations / behaviours not covered by such policies.
Spot on Dr G . Jason lived in a fantasy world of make believe. His obsession with Morgan was tolerated by her and she even included him in a party she had. To not do so may have hurried her demise . His and Morgan's relationship was non existant and all in his head. Now he has to spend the rest of his life in Jail and I have zero sympathy or empathy for him.
as always, dr G spot is on
The part where you said that "the most dangerous sign of a stalker acting as if they have a close relationship with their victim" is so true, and I have had a few stalkers in my life stalk me and I knew that I had to get rid of them. I mean, get them away from me. No pun intended.
were they really stalkers or did they just want promo codes, lady?
A perfect example of what women still have to go through in the workplace. In the late 90's I had to deal with so many creepy stalker managers and co workers. That wouldn't fly today. But it made me quit many jobs sometimes without good references. 😒
Sorry for what you went through. May you heal if you haven't already.🙏❤️
morgan:( rip. See this is why im reluctant to get close to coworkerssss. Too much drama.
She was murdered for simply living her life and unfortunately one day she was nice to a creepy guy and that was downfall. What a damn shame.
Thank you for pointing out once the person thinks they are close to the other, it is very dangerous
If there was a checklist for indicators of what makes a person a creep this guy would set the standard.
Ohhh yeah.
Imagine if creep actually ment something of value?
But ladies use it for benign things so we stop listening.
He’s a murderer.
Yes, the term creep is a bit innocuous and passive, and often means different things to people. By comparison being called a psycho with murderous tendencies is a lot clearer and mobilizing
Textbook for sure.
@@karamleviHe is creepy. Not benign in any way.
If he was on MTv or something the Girls would be all over him, stop labeling people from looks specifically men, Women value looks way less higher than men do.
Can you please offer analysis on Kissinger 😅
Who would doubt his guilt ?
It’s difficult to see how the victim had a chance in this scenario. Poor Morgan.
Seriously! She was totally ambushed.
We can only hope she didn’t suffer after what that demon did.
What a creepoid ladies get the police involved sooner rather than later in such a weird stalker situation it never ends well
Most of the time the police can't do much unless they commit a criminal offense.
@@theSemiChrist thats crazy. why should you have to commit a crime before the police can arrest you?
Poor Morgan! I know all too well what she was dealing with. I have an overbearing and stalkerish friend. He just won't go away. It's exhausting.
Are you still alive?
@@roddangerson2046??
@@roddangerson2046 so far! But who knows what he is capable of.
@@carmenhunter4380just gunna wait and find out or actually do something about it instead of boo hoo on RUclips?
@@tb-dv1zcoh I wasn't boo hooing at all. Just making a statement that I can relate. Chill you aggressive goose.
Wow, that truly is a messed up form of obsession. How sad. Thank you for sharing Dr. Grande.
Stalkers are very dangerous. Murder is always on their minds.
Why do you think that?
@@jumpinjohnnyruss stalking is the opposite of love, it is hate, and hate is the catalyst for murder.
@@martinsloan9785 That doesn't mean it's always on their minds.
@@jumpinjohnnyrussrealistic to assume that it is
@@patrickburton1401 It's safer to do so, and I'm not discouraging that view. But realistically there are probably some stalkers who have never contemplated murder. That's just my intuition, so discount it as you please.
Guess I'm old. In my day, when you were obsessed with a girl you bought flowers...maybe a card.
BTW "my day" was the early 2000s
"Obsessed" might be a bit of a misnomer lol.
We really going to sit and pretend that this is a new phenomenon when it comes to obsessive behaviors from stalkers?
I’m sure there are many depraved cases very similar to this awful one during our childhood days …
@@TwoBs I think that the lack of any emotional resilience and the inability to accept and process rejection isn't necessarily "new" but it's tied to some social elements that weren't really present "back in the day".
@@TwoBsIkr? It boggles my mind when people pretend that femicide due to the bruised ego of toxic, entitled man-children hasn't always been just as bad as today and even worse. It was just even more normalised so people didn't hear about it that much.
that kind of behavior is considered stalking now
To this day, and for almost 9 years a man has been using facebook pics of myself and my daughter (who was 12 at the time), telling all that we are his “wife and daughter, both “models”….
I cannot get him to stop/remove our pics.
I’m always on guard. It’s a terrifying way to live.
In this scenario You are 100% to blame.
You've been sloppy about the Safety of Your Child.
9years later the effects are causing Terrifying problems to Your own Family members.
Should've been on guard the second You involved Yourselves on Facebook.
Facebook isn't required for stalkers to operate. Before the www was a thing, I was stalked by a guy who read wedding announcements and somehow tracked down the members of the wedding party. He saw the announcements in a newspaper and there were no pictures of the wedding party, just the bride and groom.@@statementleaver8095
Not terrifying enough to go offline tho
There are yt vids with slutions to this once police are involved
@@hanniballecter4454 Yt themselves believe that there's nothing wrong with Children on the Internet/Social media sites.
Absolute failure of Parenting and Administration.
America doesn't allow Night shifts untill 21 but allows/Pays Children as young as 9 years old who have Yt channels 🤯🤯🤯
Not even on Yt kids at that!!
Good evening Dr. Grande. I haven’t watched your videos for a while so it was refreshing to see you had a new background and you sometimes show full screen pictures of the victims.
I never heard of that case. It’s deeply tragic and sadly so similar to countless other stories about women killed by a stalker!
Imma start calling him Arianna
Chilling. I can't imagine why women would be afraid of men
The only good thing about being home sick today is catching this video right when it dropped. Thanks for sharing your analysis Dr Grande.
It's really sad that some people will hyper fixate on another person to the point of wanting them dead if they can't be with them. We hear stories like this time and again, yet there doesn't seem that much can be done to prevent many of the terrible outcomes. The human brain is a weird and complex thing.
Yes there will not be anything anyone can do because there’s so many stalker stories that end in death and not much can be done. In this case it’s the most chilling because this guy is not even her ex bf and she has no idea Jason was stalking her so she has no way of knowing he is going to hurt her.
delusional beyond words. stalkers are scary.
I don't know how you do it Dr. Grande, but you always seem to come up with the most interesting cases. Thanks for the video!
i just stop seeing a girl i knew for a few years. she finally got some blinds for her window
Another Dr.Grande banger as usual
What are all the cacti 🌵 in the background about?
He likes cacti. Simple as that.
I think he's also from a part of the country where cacti grow.
It's to the point where rejecting a man could cost you your life!
you could also get struck by lightning or shot by a cop. whats your point?
@@carlholland3819 The point is that something we never thought we needed to worry about could end up costing us our lives, like getting shot by a cop, as you so helpfully pointed out.
Having a social life that's too active for your live-in boyfriend to tolerate can also cost you your life.
Having a stalker is one of my biggest fears. Being nice to the wrong person can have deadly consequences and it’s terrifying. I don’t consider myself special but people are always saying how nice I am and how I make their day (I’m literally just a naturally happy person) so I’m very cautious with co workers and Uber drivers.
I've been rejected. A lot of people have. Never once did it cross my mind to do anything other than walk away and leave her be.
Could Morgan, her boyfriend, her employer, her co-workers and her family have done anything to prevent this? There'll always be dangerous people in society, so it might be helpful to know if there's any way to protect potential victims from stalking, harassment, reputation destruction and violent crimes.
A longitudinal study including home visits by family members, family friends, babysitters, nannies, nurses, doctors, social workers, teachers, school counselors, truancy officers, and members of law enforcement might be able to track the progress of children from conception onward who are eventually enrolled in the 0-3 year-old to K-12 grade public school lunch program versus those not on the program. How such kids cope with interpersonal relationships across all of those groups would have the potential to identify neurobiological problems in human subjects.
I was surprised to hear she had a boyfriend. I was listening to this whole thing thinking she was single. You'd think her having a boyfriend would have put this dude off. What outcome was he expecting??
@@sandcrushlove maybe he was going to do something, but probably the woman told him it wasn't necessary.
The victim usually doesn't realize the size of the problem until it's too late.
Fucking fantastic comment man. Thankyou for that. Hope u get an answer.
morgan was the only one that could have prevented it. she either shouldve been clear with him about their relationship, or she shouldve been able to protect herself when she was in danger. i would say all women should carry, but there are also women that will shoot innocent men they wrongly perceive as threatening
All the while... she was in a relationship. That makes his behavior extra pathetic.
Same with me. They don't give a s*it. They are fixated on their "crush".
Nothing more scary than a guy friend who tells you he wants to be more, and you already have your life settled and never dreamed of his man in that manner, which he knows.
why? guys dont just decide to "want to be more." he wouldve been dropping hints for a long time that should be noticed and responded to. sounds like your assuming any of your guy friends could decide to kill you at any time. sounds kind of narcissistic to me
Dont feel sorry for and befriend creepy weirdo losers.
His supporters "being a creepy stalker is not an indicator thats hes a creepy stalker!"
Stalking is such a scary thing because people continue to walk the line between illegal and legal actions while continuing to terrorize their victims. From watching these types of crimes, filing a restraining order just seems to ramp up the violent behavior and further aggravate the perpetrator. :( What a sad story this was.
ya the stalker isnt doing much wrong until he attacks the victim so preventing it seems difficult. its got to be easier now than ever before tho since everything we do is recorded. but when someone wants to harm you, youre the only one that can stop it and you only have a split second. stay armed
Is there anyone here besides myself who believes a return to a swift and consistent application of capitol punishment would greatly reduce the seemingly increasing numbers of felony murders here in USA?
A lot of people with names beginning with the letter 'M' in this story: Morgan, Mary, Micky and Mark. And McDermott.
16:09 that was my ex-spouse. He “fell in love” with a young sex worker who he frequently patronized, love bombed, stalked, and would call their periods of time away as “breakups”. The secret life of this ex-spouse rocked my world and left me and our kids beyond puzzled and horrified , but I found it highly notable that he frequently asked this woman to leave prostitution to be all his because deep down they both knew how much they truly loved each other. In his mind, his love was real and in her mind she was often reciprocating the ‘love you’s’ because it was part of her services. Anyway, it has been years since I found out and moved on but I often times wonder what he would have done to the wife (me) and kids he had at home if the woman actually took him up on the offer. I can only imagine. She frequently blew him off and laughed at his requests to be only his, deepening his obsession and predatory pursuit to be with her. There’s so much more to my story but just had to comment because that line in your video, Dr. Grande, spoke to me so much.
Jason’s the obvious suspect, but what evidence is there he killed Meghan? There’s no physical evidence, murder weapon, video, audio, or witnesses. The video of a similar looking car to Jason’s and tire track test don’t conclusively tie Jason to the crime. Jason’s phone location and movements don’t place him at the crime scene, though he could have been smart enough to leave it at home. Jason’s creepy behavior makes him look guilty as hell, but that doesn’t mean he killed Meghan. Jason being rejected by Meghan could possibly be a motive for Jason to kill her, but a friend did testify Jason wasn’t angry at Meghan over the rejection. There’s actually more evidence against Meghan’s boyfriend, than there is against Jason because Meghan’s boyfriend was definitely at the scene of the crime. Meghan’s boyfriend also knew her work schedule, where as Jason did not. How would Jason have known Meghan would be outside at two in the morning? Also, if there were other men pursuing Meghan there could a possible motive for her boyfriend to kill her.
Thanks for the upload, Dr. Grande. Your true fans love your humour and sarcasm. November 30 is National Mason Jar Day, Computer Security Day again, Perpetual Youth Day, National Mousse Day, Skadis Day, International Cities for Life Day, Stay Home Because You Are Well Day, and National Meth Awareness Day.
Not always a “He” . I had a female stalker that convinced a locksmith into my apartment whereby she sliced all my shirts and stole bills.
His mental condition isn't that unusual considering the social conditions in the USA, i.e., families split, distant, with most social exposure internet based.
You are right about stalkers thinking that the victim loves them. As far as him being guilty. I'm not going to comment. I do not agree with you as far as him being guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. You said yourself no physical evidence. As far as his unusual behavior. Well lots of people speak after the fact. People seem unusual after the fact such as they might say I knew something was off about him or her. You're a head shrinker, What do you call that. They never think anything of it till the police question them. They will be like, Now come to think of it. None of that is physical evidence it's just a good sell for simple minded people on a jury in your own words can't do any critical thinking. As far as I'm concerned witnesses mean shit. Everything I just made in this comment has put thousands of innocent people away. My dad was almost one of them. In his case the stupid detectives lacked critical thinking choosing to take a witness over his solid alibi. They didn't even bother to fucking check his alibi CPS checked it. Now you know why I'm a bitch when it comes to this shit. A case means nothing to me without physical evidence even if they have a so called witness.
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Welcome to the internet, the new world of “ I can destroy you “ just by getting on a computer. I hat this time. That and guns. Welcome to America.
Agree.
i heard north korea doesnt have internet or guns. have fun
All women should carry. Keep your hand in your purse with your hand on the weapon when walking to and from your car till you are safe. Always! Situational awareness is so important tho this type of ambush attacks are very hard to stop.
Dr Grande has been on fire! 🔥 🌵 👓
Love his content
Thank you, Dr. Grande, I enjoy your show and your puns along the way 😊
Dude was a huge CREEPER! 😵
Thanks Dr Grande for your videos. I've seen the majority of them and they are great content.
Looks like the majority of your audience doesn't understand this man is mentally ill and his behavior was quite disturbed. They equate this behavior to a relationship and/or "love" or "friendship" gone wrong. That's quite troubling about the general population.
ive been scrolling the comments for way too long and i havent really seen any comments like that. however, men are evil and we are all psycho killers. queso k?
What a creep! That poor woman 😢
This is terrifying. I had a similar experience with I guy I dated for a month. He completely destroyed my life. Because he never killed me, he never faced any consequences for his actions because he was able to afford a lawyer when I filed for a PPO against him.
You women and your poor decision making never ceases to amaze me
Lucky you got away from him physically unscathed.
It sounds to me like he's one of those "Incels".
@@glendasully
I agree
@jragon9215 The incel woman hater enters the chat...
If that’s all the evidence there is, I’d say that he probably did it, but not beyond a reasonable doubt.
It's that "if I can't have her, then no one can," mentality that comes with obsession which sadly ends in murder. A person can have a stalker and never know about it and be innocently murdered. Always a tragedy.
This is the curse of being a beautiful woman. When you look like me men don't even pursue or bother you like that. May she rest in peace 🙏🏽
@leighleigh8725 wow, interesting lol never thought of it that way but it makes sense
@leighleigh8725 yep, no matter what youre a victim
@leighleigh8725 You'd know.
Jason's obsession really is frightening, but I cannot imagine how one would prevent someone like this from going too far. Thank you, Dr. Grande, as always, for another compelling video.
3:12 what kind of work place is this?!
I’m angry that none of the coworkers reported him.
It sounds like it was FedEx.
@@salishseas -Do U work 4 FedEx ?
I've never used snapchat nor would I, esp after hearing about the privacy issue. Such a sad & infuriating case again with a great breakdown for us. Thanks Dr G😊🧡💛
So creepy. Is it likely he put a tracking device on her car then? To know she was in Ohio?
I don’t understand how a person makes the leap from loving someone to then being capable of killing them. What happens to people who have that capability, but who actually get into a relationship with that person? Are they abusive? Controlling and manipulative?
it's not really love it's obsession. Its the stalker's twisted idea of love.
Maybe abusive or controlling and they end in murder regardless, but obsession based relationships usually fall apart very fast. I heard a statistic that when obsessive people actually get the object of their obsession in a relationship the relationship often ends after only 9 months. For the murderous types, I would not be surprised if they don't just murder them when they find out that the person is a person and not an angel.
I think this is a case of dangerous obsession rather than genuine love.
They can't handle rejection.
I don’t k ow why people think that circumstantial evidence is weak. Circumstantial (as opposed to direct) evidence is evidence from which an inference can be drawn and can be as strong as direct evidence depending on the circumstances.
all evidence is circumstantial considering we're living in the matrix
My work protocol in industries where socialising is NOT usual: warehouse, logistics, moving, construction, was as follows: do not date your clients, do not socialise with your workers except same sex that have the same interests as you, do not bring your volunteer/politics to work. It was easier for me as \I llved far away from most of my fellow employees, my interests were rural, not hockeyi/beer/strippers, and I had a lot of irons in the fire. But EVEN THEN I had two nutcases (mother/daughter) who accused me of years of trying to get both of them on a date. Before I knew it, my Union reps. (one of whom I appointed to his job), my employer, the cops, the Crown (Canada's D>A.) all were so busy jumping to conclusions the barn door was locked before I even knew there was a fire. I see these new tools as very dangerous. Work is bad enough w/o adding to the possibilities. At least in Canada guns and unlimited ammo. are fairly rare. !!!
I think one thing that is lost in this story is the strong connection of social media between people in this story, why communication was still going on in the early stages of this tragedy is a mystery to me?
If you have suspicions about someone, follow your Intuitions! Shut that ship down! Stop feeding the attention problem.
people are addicted to attention. if she stops being his friend, she will lose 1 tictok follower
I’m sure that FedEx warehouse was running like a Swiss clock during this time…😂
Each time I view one of your videos, I ask myself: What are the cactus's representing? That you are presenting "prickly" topics? That your delivery is "dry" humor? ......I need to know.
I’ve read that a cactus in the home is a bad thing.
Dr. Grandy, can we see your decorated Christmas tree. I just have to know what type of Christmas tree and Christmas decorations Dr. grande likes.
Lol Dr Grandy
You sound “obsessed.”Lol. Jk.
The imagined story had a beginning, middle and an end that his brain needed to complete. Most probably playing a 'role' as she being his, "conquest" - dead or alive, it's his narrative alone.